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‘Clinton is the most dangerous person alive,’ an interview with Edward S. Herman

Monday, November 7, 2016 21:17
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by Ann Garrison

Ann Garrison: Earlier this year, you told me
that you differ with Noam Chomsky, your co-author of “Manufacturing
Consent” and other books, in that you plan to vote for the Green
Party’s presidential and vice presidential candidates Jill Stein
and Ajamu Baraka in the swing state of Pennsylvania. Are you still
planning to do so?

Edward S. Herman: Yes.

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AG: Can you explain why?

ESH: Because the two duopoly candidates are
dangerous to societal and international welfare and even survival.
Hillary Clinton is a neo-liberal and pre-eminent war-monger. I
think she is the most dangerous person living in the world today,
given her highly likely election victory and her likely performance
as president.

She represents the corporate elite and military-industrial
complex more clearly than Trump and she is a follow-on to Bush and
Obama. She will pursue similar policies except for her somewhat
more aggressive bent.

Trump is a self-promoting windbag, racist and dangerous,
unpredictable phony. We have a ghastly choice in these two.

Jill Stein offers a protest opportunity, more so than not
voting. On the line that either voting for Stein or not voting
would constitute a vote for Trump, one might argue that a vote for
Hillary Clinton is a vote for war with Syria and Russia and a vote
for Netanyahu (and hence for escalated violence in Palestine).

AG: Hillary Clinton and John Podesta’s email
has revealed that Hillary Clinton is well aware that the Saudi and
Qatari rulers – not rogue elements – fund ISIS, and the same Saudi
and Qatari rulers fund the Clinton Foundation. Throughout the last
George Bush’s presidency, there were innumerable headlines that
“Saudi oil sheikhs met with George Bush on his Crawford, Texas,
ranch.” What are your thoughts on that?

Hillary Clinton and John Podesta’s email has revealed
that Hillary Clinton is well aware that the Saudi and Qatari rulers
– not rogue elements – fund ISIS, and the same Saudi and Qatari
rulers fund the Clinton Foundation

ESH: Saudi Arabia is a U.S. ally and an
instrument of the warfare state. Hillary Clinton has treated its
leaders warmly and she will continue to do so as president.

The Clinton Foundation’s receipt of money from Saudi and Qatari
leaders is a first class conflict of interest and outrage, but the
media have focused on the many less important abuses of Trump,
helping cover over the outrages of their preferred candidate,
Hillary Clinton, and her husband, Bill Clinton.

AG: What do you think of Clinton’s statement
that she would make removing Bashar Al-Assad her top priority? And
Trump’s statement that he would not, because that would recklessly
risk confrontation with Russia?

ESH: Hillary Clinton has essentially promised
to escalate war in Syria and is therefore promising to go to war
with Russia as well. "http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/21/hillary-clintons-strategic-ambition-in-a-nutshell/"
target="_blank">Diana Johnstone has made the case
that Hillary
Clinton plans to try to bring about “regime change” in Russia.

Hillary Clinton has essentially promised to escalate
war in Syria and is therefore promising to go to war with Russia as
well.

This is of course incredibly dangerous and would have aroused a
really democratic media, but the existing media are part of the war
system; hence Hillary Clinton’s commitment to wars is essentially
suppressed. Trump has made a number of statements along the lines
of reducing U.S. interventions and commitments abroad and trying to
deal with Russia in a less confrontational manner, but he has
sometimes contradicted himself by urging expanded arms, use of
nuclear weapons etc.

But Hillary Clinton has said nothing that would offset her
war-mongering. This difference from Trump may help explain the
intensity of media hostility to Trump.

AG: Jill Stein has said that “wars for oil are
blowing back at us with a vengeance” and that she would cut the
military budget by half, close most of the foreign bases, and
redirect resources into a Green New Deal that would fully employ
Americans building sustainable energy and agricultural
infrastructure. I can’t imagine you disagree, but do you think it’s
important for the Greens to articulate such a vision at the
national and international level, instead of focusing solely on
local races that they might win?

Jill Stein has said that “wars for oil are blowing
back at us with a vengeance” and that she would cut the military
budget by half, close most of the foreign bases, and redirect
resources into a Green New Deal that would fully employ Americans
building sustainable energy and agricultural
infrastructure.

ESH: The Greens don’t have the resources to
compete in many local elections. So she is wise to focus on the big
national and international issues. Furthermore, the real gap in the
political system is the lack of opposition to national neoliberal
and militaristic policies.

It is said that she can’t make a bigger mark given the hegemony
of the duopoly, but even Ralph Nader couldn’t get 5 percent of the
vote. The system still works well – for the 1 percent.

AG: Michael Moore has made a movie called
“Trumpland” and "http://www.democracynow.org/2016/11/7/michael_moore_if_elected_donald_trump"
target="_blank">warned that Trump’s election would be the end of
the United States
, assuming that would be a bad thing. David
Swanson, author of “War Is a Lie,” has imagined the same but
argued, in “ "http://davidswanson.org/node/5091" target="_blank">Secession,
Trump, and the Avoidability of Civil War
,” that the break-up of
the United States is not the worst possibility on the horizon. Do
you have any thoughts on this?

ESH: Michael Moore is completely oblivious to
the fact that the enlarging war that is likely to follow Hillary
Clinton’s election threatens not only a nuclear exchange, but also
attacks on civil liberties and the march toward fascism. In its own
way, the election of Hillary Clinton might threaten a democratic
order as much as a Trump victory. The anti-Trump hysteria has
tended to block out consideration of the Hillary Clinton
menace.

The enlarging war that is likely to follow Hillary
Clinton’s election threatens not only a nuclear exchange, but also
attacks on civil liberties and the march toward
fascism.

AG: Is there anything else you’d like to say
about why you’re voting for Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka?

ESH: I’ve always believed in the moral rule
laid down in the categorical imperative: “Do that which you would
wish generalized.”

Oakland writer Ann Garrison writes for the "nofollow" target="_blank" href="/r2/?url=http://sfbayview.com/tag/ann-garrison/" target=
"_blank">San Francisco Bay View
, Black Agenda
Report, Black Star News,
"http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/20/the-israelrwanda-pact/"
target="_blank">Counterpunch
and her own
website,
target="_blank">Ann Garrison, and produces
for
"_blank">AfrobeatRadio on WBAI-NYC, "nofollow" target="_blank" href="/r2/?url=http://www.kpfa.org/archive/show/99" target=
"_blank">KPFA Evening News
, target="_blank" href="/r2/?url=http://www.kpfa.org/flashpoints" target="_blank">KPFA
Flashpoints
and for her own YouTube Channel,
"http://www.youtube.com/user/AnnieGetYourGang" target=
"_blank">AnnieGetYourGang
. She can be reached
at
target="_blank">[email protected]. In March
2014 she was awarded the
"http://www.rifdp-iwndp.org/" target="_blank">Victoire Ingabire
Umuhoza Democracy and Peace Prize
for promoting peace
in the Great Lakes Region of Africa through her reporting.

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