Texas Is The Only State With A Legal Right To Secede. What If We Did?
(Reference: the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848)
The formal controversy about the legality of the annexation of Texas stems from the fact that Congress approved the annexation of Texas as a territory with a simple majority vote approval instead of annexing the land by Treaty, as was done with Native American lands )
We Texans love y’all, but we’ll probably have to take action if Barack Obama wins the election. We’ll miss you too.
Here is what can happen:
1: Barack Hussein Obama is President of the United States, and Texas
secedes from the Union in summer of 2013.
2: If we can find him, George W. Bush will become the President of the Republic of Texas. You might not think that he talks too pretty, but we haven’t had another terrorist attack, and the economy was fine until the effects of the Democrats lowering the qualifications for home loans came to roost.
So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?
1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. We will control the space industry.
2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States .
3. Defense Industry–we have over 65% of it. The term “Don’t mess
with Texas,” will take on a whole new meaning.
4. Oil – we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. What will the other states do? Gee, we don’t
know. Why not ask Obama?
5. Natural Gas – again we have all we need, and it’s too bad about those Northern States. John Kerry and Al Gore will have to figure out a way to keep them warm….
6. Computer Industry – we lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications equipment – small companies like Texas Instruments, Dell
Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Microconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Nortel, Alcatel, etc., etc. The list goes on and on.
7. Medical Care – We have the research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world, as well as other large health centers. The Houston Medical Center alone employees over 65,000 people.
8. We have enough colleges to keep us getting smarter: University of Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Texas Christian, Rice, SMU, University of Dallas, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT (University of North Texas), Texas Women’s University, Texas State, etc. Ivy grows better in the South anyway.
9. We have an intelligent and energetic work force, and it isn’t restricted by a bunch of unions. Here in Texas, it’s a Right to Work State and, therefore, it’s every man and women for themselves. We just go out and get the job done. And if we don’t like the way one company operates, we get a job somewhere else.
10. We have essential control of the paper, plastics, and insurance industries, etc.
11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard, the Texas Air National Guard, and several military bases. We don’t have an Army, but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an Army in 24 hours if we need one. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call the Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over the Texas Rangers.
12. We are totally self-sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables, and let’s not forget seafood from the Gulf. Also, everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don’t need any food.
13. Three of the ten largest cities in the United States, and twenty-three of the 100 largest cities in the United States, are located in Texas. And Texas also has more land than California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Maryland, Rhode Island and Vermont combined.
14. Trade: Three of the ten largest ports in the United States are located in Texas.
15. We also manufacture cars down here, but we don’t need to. You see, nothing rusts in Texas, so our vehicles stay beautiful and run well for decades.
This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn’t a thing out there that we need and don’t have.
Now to the rest of the United States under President Obama: Since you won’t have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Obama will be able to drive around in his big 5 mpg SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.
You won’t have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off satellite communications. You won’t have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Obama has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas as long as you survive the 2000 years it will take to get enough heat from Global Warming.
Signed,
The People of Texas
P.S. This is not a threatening letter, but,
The People of Texas
THE EYES OF TEXAS ARE UPON YOU…
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Yes, and Northcom is just going to allow that border with Mexico and the NAFTA Superhighway to revert back to State Sovereignty…are you joking?
Though I am completely sympathetic with what you say, I don’t think you have thought things through. First of all, the right to succeed didn’t do you any good during/after the civil war, did it? I’m not a historian, so I don’t know whether Texas voluntarily rejoined the Union after 1865 or was forced to rejoin. I suspect the latter. Second, the “terrorist” attack of 911 happened on George W. Bush’ watch. Third, the economy was not OK until the Democrats screwed it up. It was the Republicans – specifically Phil Gram and his wife Wendy – of Texas, no less – who led the fight to repeal Glass-Steegle, which is the cause of many of our problems today. George Bush Sr. – of Texas, again – who switched the regulatory attention away from the corporations and stopped enforcing the Sherman Act. I could go on and on, but what’s the use? I would love to see you succeed, but your game of “lets pretend we’re the prettiest girl at the dance” when you are really quite homely, is not going to win the prize you want.
Keep drinking the Liberal Kool-Aid. Remember what happened to the followers of Jim Jones?? If he’d jumped off a cliff -they would have followed him over. Instead, their leader led them to their death another way… just like B.O. I’m ALL FOR TEXAS leaving the Union — we don’t need the U.S. to be successful! We already have everything we need here -including our oil, cattle, natural minerals and resources, REFINERIES, NUCLEAR POWER, a valley full of productive farm and citrus crops, we have our own military and can govern our own borders. Plus — I don’t very many people here that are unarmed… either in their homes or on their person. WE LOVE GUNS!
Sounds like a wonderful idea. Texas should do that right away.
I would not blame them if they did.I just hope they allow me to have dual citizenship.
Happy hare nafta effed up this country thank you very much Clinton. This article is worthless since it mentions nothing about a giant border fence encompassing the entire state north and south complete with mine fields.
The giant border fence and mine fields are a given. Cut off all communications from the outside world as well.
Sounds like we need a bigger wall.
you’re an idiot.
Message to Anonymous: NAFTA was introduced by the Reagan Administration and promoted by the Bush Administration. Clinton was holding the baton at the end of the race, but he hardly deserves credit for it all, though I don’t want to sound as if I support him or anything he did. That’s a fact. Truth matters.
Again, I am entirely sympathetic to you, and will move to Texas myself if you are successful. Good luck and God bless!!
The Alamo was nothing but a bunch of illegal aliens. There is nothing in the US Constitution that allows Texas to secceed. When it became a state, all previous documents were voided. Read youmhistory, dumbasses.
It was a big mistake. Make them forefit NASA and give it all back to Mexico!
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.” — Barry Goldwater, November 1994
Did B4n deleted my isreal/texass/police state connection post .chicken manure
Nope . Ill be your Huckleberry Dude if you want to go there. I promise.Texas Folks are fed up with this silly BS coming from DC .If you keep prodding a Wasp Nest with a stick, you will GET STUNG.It’s a simple law of Nature. Come on down here and test us. I can guarantee you wont like the outcome.LOL
Why is it that the less educated a person is the more violent they tend to be? Lack of self-esteem?
A great idea, then you could have the first country in the world where it is compulsory to carry a hand gun
That is not the case. Texas exercised that option in the civil war. They did not keep that agreement when they re-joined the union.
RT
Would that be Travon? The Criminal in Chiefs son , or are you directing your silly diatribe at me? You silly Lefties are just jealous you don’t live in a free place.LOL.
im from ohio can i join
Wonkadelica RAMA LAMA DING DONG.
Your right numbskull . Its in the Texas Constitution.There was no such thing as an illegal Alien when the Alamo was fought but boy. Texas gained it’s Independence when Sam Houston kicked Santa Anna’s Arse at San Jacinto. Get your facts straight before you spout BS on this site. All of the stuff you claim to know won’t stop a 45.LOL.
I agree with everything you say, BUT you just lost your credibility when you said we should make GEORGE W. BUSH AS PRESIDENT OF TEXAS. WHHHAAAATTT????!!!! Are you insane? If that’s the case, then why don’t you just give Texas over to Obama and the globalists right now. That’s like having Rick Perry as President. OMG!! Unbelievably stupid. Wake up, buddy.
THERE’S ALSO NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUION THAT SAYS AN “ILLEGAL ALIEN” CAME BE PRESIDENT, BUT WE HAVE ONE DON’T WE.
TEXAS HAS ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING I NEED, I DON’T EVER HAVE TO LEAVE.
China went insular for almost 700 years. Texas is better than China, right? Come on guys, you can do it. Set a new record, for the benefit of all of us.
bunch of “Damn Yankees” we can do whatever we want !!!!!!!!!
Please do so, with haste. Let the other 6 billion of us know how we can assist you in any way.
I was all for it until you suggested George W. Are you CRAZY? Throw out all the old and lets start new. I’m sure there are many GOOD PEOPLE in Texas who could manage being in charge. Of course they are NOT politicians. That is what is needed, people with a conscience and a soul,no lifetime politicians!
In truth under the US Constitution, ALL States have the Power to secede from the Union. How is this?
The 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Is there anywhere in the whole of the Constitution that grants the federal government any Power to MAINTAIN the Union in perpetuity? No.
Is there anywhere in the whole of the Constitution that specifically denies any State to quit the Union? No.
Even the Preamble implies the Power of secession: “…in order to form a more perfect Union…” Can any Union grow to be “more perfect” if any members of that Union cannot leave it? How can a Union become “more perfect” if membership is eternal, without recourse? Even the Bill of Rights supports Freedom of Association…So how does *forcing* association on States do anything except violate one of our Natural Rights, that exists BEFORE government & BEFORE the Constitution itself?
Yes, We the People in EVERY State should be pushing our State governments to “put it on the books,” now & forevermore.
HMM…G.W. Bush no! Ron Paul yes!! I’m proud to be a Texan and believe me there are more of us that want to secede than those who dont.
If it came to a vote we will…and there wouldnt be be a damn thing any
big mouth idiot could do to stopo it.
Sorry “AmericanHero” but it will never come to a vote I promise you that… And there’s not a damn thing you could do about it!
All I know is teh first time I heard about this I was Hoping you would and I was going to move there.. You did not so I kust left the USA.
MY Home they stole it from us and turned it into a mess
Does anyone have a Texas-English dictionary?
zombie ready
You and Rt must be drinking the same cool aid. Get this straight dumbass. A treaty is worth the paper it’s written on big boy. If you don’t believe me just ask a Native American. Just let the Federalies come down here and tell us we can’t secede. They will have their asses handed to them. You arm chair intellectuals are what is wrong with this Nation. You think you know what is best for the rest of us but I have news for you.You can kiss our asses one at a time or take us on one at a time. We will be obliged any way you want it.Talk is cheap big boy. Come on down here and see how it turns out for you. I can promise you it wont be pretty.
LOL, secede from the US over one tyrant, only to take on another tyrant. That’s real smart… If you don’t yet understand that Obama and Bush are essentially the same thing, then you are both hopeless and helpless. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is idiots like you that our country is in the mess that’s it in. You are essentially as dangerous as the Obama-turds. This is not even mentioning that your facts are all wrong. Although I thoroughly dislike Obama, it was the Bush admin that helped push our economy over the edge. First with the illegal wars, then with the bank-bailouts. Also, it was his neo-con lackeys (both Democrat and Republican) that helped reverse Glass-Steagall which essentially gave us the whole “too big to fail” fiasco and put everyone’s wealth at risk. Don’t get me wrong, I’m against government regulation in all forms, though it’s only effective in a free-market and when you cherry-pick which industries to deregulate without the balance of a free-market market system, you are basically regulating through proxy. So the abolition of Glass-Steagall wasn’t a move to deregulate, so much as it was a move to nudge regulation to favor certain interests at the expense of everyone else -no different than Obamacare.
Moving right along, I always cringe when I hear people say that Bush kept us safe, using the reasoning that “we weren’t attacked on his watch”. Well, if we discount the attacks on 9/11 (and just forget that this major attack happened during the Bush admin), then what are we to make of the anthrax attacks? Sure we were attacked after 9/11 on “Bush’s watch” and the attack came in the form of anthrax. Of course, we could also list the massive move on our Constitutional liberties as an attack too. The Patriot Act was far more damaging to this country than 9/11 was, that is if you believe the official conspiracy theory that 19 cave-dwelling Arabs happened to get lucky over and over in the same day -completing discounting who may or may not have financed the operation, because after all -that’s not important right?
Also, what about the Iraq war, where far more Americans died than in any terrorist attack on American soil. Should we not count that as an attack too. If not, why not? Because CNN and Fox News didn’t tell you it was an attack? What about all of the US soldiers who died in Iraq as a result of the Saudi-backed Sunni, the same Saudis that were so closely allied with Bush & Co. In fact, they were so close, that the Bush-Bin Laden owned Carlisle Group sold a big weapons shipment, allot of which was funneled right into Iraq and used against American soldiers. The Bush family profited from the sale of the weapons that wound up killing Americans soldiers in a war that the Bush family lied to get us into.
I’m a Texan and a veteran and I can assure you that GW Bush will never run Texas through a public office, regardless of whether Texas is a part of the United States or not. I can absolutely assure you that there would be an armed resistance, though without the nanny-federal government to wipe your butt and hold your hand, those committing the crime against nature of trying to put the tyrannical Bush machine back in public office would be nothing more than ducks in a barrel.
Almost all of your “facts” were wrong, though for the sake of brevity, I chose to address only a few. The message here, is that it makes little difference whether Bush, Obama, Clinton or even Romney resides in the White House, as they are all statist, big-government anti-conservatives who enjoy trampling on the rights of the people, while spending other people’s money to benefit a few. I could care less whether my money is stolen to fund wars and corporate fat-cats, or social welfare programs and crack-dealers, as stolen money is stolen money. Both the Democrats and Republicans support welfare, whether it’s social welfare or corporate welfare. Either way, it’s “distributing the wealth”.
We have a farm in Australia called (of all things – ) ‘el Dorado’…its bigger than the entire state of Texas…and theres an island down here in the south pacific which is made of the rubbish/garbage you Texans throw out….so if you DO secede, would you mind taking your garbage with you??
Thanks mate for the international perspective. I’m curious: Is Garbage Island yet inhabited? Since the Texans kind of already own it, perhaps you might let them move there and use it as a distant sanctuary? The rest of us here promise to buy more El Dorado brand products if you do.
Some Texans are mature, educated, thoughtful, self-respecting people, so I apologize to those who qualify for my generalizing that all Texans are the same.
@ MidnightDStroyer
Although I philosophically agree with you and I am indeed a huge proponent of the Tenth Amendment, I don’t believe that to be the case. The Tenth Amendment doesn’t protect a state’s right to secede and unfortunately, that precedent was set in the mid 19th century with the so-called “Civil War”, though a little known fact is that it wasn’t really a civil war. Instead, it was a war for independence, which is a huge difference. A civil war, by definition, is two or more factions of a nation battling for control over the nation. The Confederate States of America didn’t want control over the United States of America, they simply wanted to secede from it. For this reason, I like to call it the “War for Confederate Independence”.
Most people falsely believe that the civil war was fought over slavery and while slavery was a dividing issue, it wasn’t the cause for war, nor was it the sole dividing issue that lead to the secession process. Instead, the issue of tariffs was the big problem that lead the “South” to seek independence. In fact, Abe himself said on numerous occasions that if he could end the war without freeing a single slave, he would do it. One famous quote of his is as follows: “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery.” –Abraham Lincoln
What really caused the South to secede, was unfair tariffs on their agricultural goods that only served to benefit the “North”, at the expense of the Southern agricultural industry.
Anyway, my point is that the “War for Confederate Independence” or the so-called “Civil War” set the precedent and thus the legally accepted limit to the Tenth Amendment -as far as secession goes (and many other things too). This is effectively the spoils of war for the victor, being allowed to “interpret” the intent of the Constitution. We may not agree with it, but nobody wants to repeat this tragic war, thus the Tenth Amendment is unlikely to be used as a justification for secession.
FYI FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE POSTERS All documents necessary for EACH STATE have been sent to the INTERNATIONAL LAW OFFICES OF THE HAUGE We are considered “NATION STATES!” I know in ALL of your “little minds”-not blaming you of course! This information you will not find on your public news sources. WE ARE ALL FREE-don’t need to secede. Some smart people were looking out for all of us who were NOT awake as to what’s been taking place for the last 30 plus years. Did you know the UNITED STATES is a corporation? LOOK at your personal checks, birth certificate, ss card-your name is in ALL CAPS! That’s not YOU! That’s your strawman (corporation). They sold us out-years ago! For real news and freedom try soldierhugs.com I believe you can still vote on the non-negotiable conditions of the cabalists. CHOICE IS YOURS-THE TRUTH OR THE PERCEIVED TRUTH FROM YOUR LYING FILTERED PUBLIC PROPAGANDA NEWS
The original premise of this thread is incorrect. It states “Texas Is The Only State With A Legal Right To Secede”…and that is simply nonsense! ANY State, province, region, territory, kingdom, principality, municipality, lot or block of land with inhabitants to speak for it, can secede at anytime…its constituent members simply have to decide to do so and then proclaim three things…their borders, their governance and their ability to declare war.
The PTB would have you believe otherwise by the use of carefully crafted words on bits of paper…but its all just a ruse to fool/manipulate States into staying in unions where there is strength in numbers for purposes of trade and market dominance, resource exploitation and all the other mechanisms of this economic structure we operate within.
So if Texas wants to secede …kewl…go for it…same goes for Pennsylvania, Arizona, Navajo or any other ‘bit’!
If you have a look at the ideas behind what a ‘principality’ is it might lead you to some rather interesting ‘opportunities.’ Here in Australia there is a Principality called Hutt River (see http://www.principality-hutt-river.com/ ) …its a great story about one chap who figured this out some 40+ years ago…take a look…it might inspire some of you!
A couple of years ago there was a chap here in a harbourside (expen$ive) suburb of Sydney. He wanted to make some architectural changes to his property but had to wait on local Council approval. He waited and waited and waited…and eventually got really peeved.
So, he seceded…he proclaimed his borders , ie his lot of land, declared himself the Prince and his wife , Princess and declared a state of Emergency and Military Preparedness and warned the Local Council in writing that he would declare war should they breech his borders. LOL…bless him! Scared the ‘proverbial’ out of the Council and they bent over backwards to accommodate him and let him do whatever he wanted unhindered. It does bring up an interesting thought tho: what if he ever decides he wants to live elsewhere? The conventional route is to sell your house…but any new owner is not necessarily going to be continuing the ‘royal’ title.
Another idea is to take a look at the concept of ‘Transition Towns’…creating off the grid, sustainable, self-contained communites means you can also create ‘currency’…and once you no longer depend on THEIR ‘money’ you really start to become SOVEREIGN…
Rambling abit here…must be the two rums! sorry
One last thought: for those thinking of going down the ‘sovereign’ route you need to take into account that if you live in a colonized land such as USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and so on, and you decide to secede, you will be doing so from the State…and the State is NOT the land…that still lies under the unextinguishable ‘pre-eminent’ title with the First Nations…
Now, I am sure a bunch of you will be bristling at the thought and will offer up the argument that the First Nations have ‘Treaty’s and that they gave up their ‘title’…but any contract lawyer would be able to pick up that the terms and conditions included in, and under which these Treatys were signed actually renders them null and void for many breaches of ‘contract law’ .then and now!
People can think how ever they want but the damn fact of the matter is Texas will never go independent bc we simply won’t make it. We need and thrive on the federal government. Just bc a couple ass clowns think we should just bc obama your an idiot. Look at the bigger picture. Presidents don’t run this country. The rich and wealthy do. Big company’s and industries do. The 1% class do. Open you damn eyes you nut job
From Barry Goldwater, November 1994 — “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
If only things were so simple! The NDAA actually addresses “rogue states” as being threats to homeland security. Im pretty sure that the U.S. government has no intention of ever peacefully giving up such a strong and valuable part of the nation’s infastructure. There’s been wars created for less! As a matter of logic, it’s pretty likely that Texas was the first state that came to mind when they wrote that into the NDAA. The problems we as citizens are experiencing definitely would be easily solved,(For those of us residing in Texas) by cutting ties with the upcoming marxist government that is slipping into place. Is that what our founding fathers would want though? No! They would want the People as a whole to oppose tyrrany and to fight for liberty and justice for all. Thomas Jefferson even quoted,” Every generation needs a revolution.” And it takes unity to have an impact on our future. Not just as a state or a nation, but as a species.
Actually, the moment the Federal Government choose to disobey the constitution. (Around 1913) the moment is perfectly legal for any state to get out of the Union. This is because the moment the constitution was broken, the moment the federal government became an illegitimate government.
Where were you that whole time? Decades.
I would LOVE THIS!!! BUT, HELL NO! BUSH CAN GO…., TO PRISON!
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These are about the dumbest comments I have ever heard
1. Texas has NASA- if Texas were to pull away from the Union, Texas would no longer be part of the USA and NASA would be moved to a new location
3. The defense industry-once Texas leaves the Union, Texas would no longer get US government defense contracts
2 and 14. Texas doesn’t have a Navy so the US could block the ports because the water ways would still be the US so no ships to the ports including oil ship so the refineries are useless and without the revenue from from the sale to other states the privately own companies would leave Texas
6,8,9, 11. All of these require people once the US block the water ways and close the border the companies you mention will not make enough money selling to Texas alone, so these privately owned company will move and the people would move with them.
So your ideas are just no well thought out Texas is a great state because it is part of without the other 49 states Texas would be no better off then Jordan one of the poorest countries in the world.