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The Rapture: When Will the Believing Be Leaving? | End Times War Between Angels And Demons Happening Now (Videos)

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11-30-17

 

He is coming, can you feel it? And EVERY eye shall see HIM, all will finally know He is the True Messiah; the True Savior!

Here are different takes on the pre, mid and post Tribulation timing and where the Rapture fits in. Also included, spiritual warfare and the effects.


Jan Markell and Eric Barger spend the hour with Pastor Billy Crone discussing the Rapture and Rapture timing. They refute those who put down the biblical pre-Tribulation Rapture and explain why. The Tribulation judges the pagan world and brings Israel to faith. There is confusion partly because today’s church is silent. Hear the mockers call the “blessed hope” the “blasted hope”. We recommend his book and DVD products on this issue and other topics found at www.getalifemedia.com

PLUS

Perry Stone talks about the spiritual battles happening and when we are under attack how our physical and mental strength weakens. 

AND

For further consideration and study, an explosive video from Think About It


Understanding the Times: When Will the Believing Be Leaving?

Prophecy Updates

The Return Of Jesus | PREPARE FOR THE RETURN OF OUR KING

Source Angelheart Productions

The Prophetic Cosmic War of Demons and Angels | Episode 894

Source Perry Stone

Rapture Teaching As Originally Taught Is Not Scriptural

This video may shake many believers paradigm about an early escape from tribulation, but look at the proof that God’s Word does NOT say there is a “Rapture.” (pre-tribulation)

Source Think About It


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Scriptures for the above video from hink About It:

Scriptures to study for understanding the truth about the end time “catching away” in context: Matthew 24:24-44 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 5:1-11 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 Mark 13:27 1 Corinthians 15:51 Luke 21:25-28

2 Thess 2:3-9, Rev 3:10,11  Jn 3:17:13-15, Rev 22:11,12  Mt24:40-42, Mt 24:37-42, Mt 13_30, Mt 13:38-43, Mt 28:20


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    • Psp

      Oh sooner than the church as a whole realizes. Nevermind the scoffers and non believers. They cant give an opinion because they dont know the real facts about God nor His word.

      Yeah pretrib is Biblical truth. We dont know the moment but we are told how to recognize the true last generation and not the i thought for sure ours was the generation but rather the one that has everything it takes to be the actual one this time. Those that lived in the 2nd century, the 3rd, 4th and every century there where those that was so sure thiers was the prophesied last generation but all was wrong. This time its true. Get it through your scoffing heads that ours is the unigue generation. Every century man has lived in the same basic world. Not ours! This period you are living in right now is the standalone generation and that is the key to seeing that the Bible is in fact not only true but that we are the last generation. We have all the keys that in truth is proof its real! The Bible is true! We are the last generation! If you want to understand how to see the proof for yourself and understand what and how to trully discern the signs that equals you to coming to this knowledge….then learn what i mean by the “standalone” generation slash time period really means. If you invest time once you grasp it then to deny that you still think the Bible is a fairy tale then you are lying to yourself let alone to others. There is no way for all the factors that you dont know about as much as you think…to come together all in the same time frame that only happens once to not be true. That was a bit tough what im trying to say but i do know what im talking about.

      The timing of the rapture is not known as far as the moment but based on the knowledge that is only revealed to the last generation and that which has always been known….we are at the last end portion of the last generation. Based on truth and how far we are into it and what is happening, how its happening and israels 70th bd coming up…im certain the we are on the very verge of the 7yr tribulation to begin unfolding. Somebody somewhere is the antichrist and is expecting it as i and many others are. God is restraining him but not for long. At any time and in a flash…this world is going to shift. And what skeptics think about what reality is has a major realization coming. The sorrow i see coming for scoffers it unbearable to think about because for most it will be over the fact that they missed the opportunity to do what it takes for preventing the pain coming that is without end. They believe so many lies about what they assume is going to be alright for them in the end. God does not change what He says about what will happen. He is not going to say “oh you know guys i know i said without salvation you can not enter my kingdom and must be cast from presence (which outside Gods presence nothing that is good can exist) but im going to take that back. I i i just dont think i should allow you to be cast from me into eternal damnation”. Without passing the sin curse to Jesus while you are still alive because it cant work once you die in the flesh….you will be cast into hell and you will be released for a moment only to be cast into the lake of fire! Dont believe the lie that the Bible was created to spread fear to keep people oppressed just because many other doctrines do because God had nothing to do with those. Its 1 truth buried in a sea of lies all to mask the 1 that is true. Thier is a super deceptive generation that is super deceptive by design and you and myself are living in that time now. If you believe the Bibble is wrong and or nothing but fairytale…i promise you that you are wrong! I dont care how much you see that points to you being right because i assure you that you are no match against satanic angelic forces nevermind demonic entities. They are childs play compared to the angelic beings. They are the ones behind evolution and the evidences that point away from what is biblical. They have intelligently planned to reserve thier more cunning abilities to decieve until they recognized that the final generation has arrived and you know whats funny? They know because of the keys God has giving man to recognize it. The doctrine that they have made many of you to believe is not true! Wonder why God uses the word fool? Not to call you names but because you have simply been fooled! The Bible is the real deal and Jesus paid the price for your salvation and all you have to do is recieve it! Ask Him for it and as soon as you do you got it and whether you felt it or not. Knock and He WILL come in! Jesus is not the bad guy people. He is who he says he is. Thats why he answers “i am that i am”. . he doesnt let anything stop you from recieving his gift if you ask….nothing! You are not too bad for God to forgive. You are a victim of sin and salvation changes that. Your soul and yes you have one, is eternal. You will die and your soul is suppose to return to God but if you bring sin with you then it can never be taken from you and sin can not be allowed into Gods full presence and that only leaves a place where is presence does not exist. That means only one place. A place that was origamally was created or opened up only for the angels that rebelled but because of thier cunning ability the caused man to fall as well. Jesus was the only way that God could offer so that we could have an escape. If you understood hows and whys that is then you wouldnt have the wrong ideas about Him. It all will make sense when you really know the truth whole truth. You dont learn some things about God until you have a relationship with Him and more and more as time goes by. Give us this daily bread. Eating spiritual food. Non believers are starving for spiritual food. True spiritual food. Not false Buddhism food, not new age spiritual food, not all other spiritual food but true spiritual food that is only obtained from Gods true source jesus and his word.

      This has been a long comment but i am telling the truth and i just have a clear understanding about what this existence that God created is. I dont have all the answers but i do know whats Gods word really says though cant point out verses and such because i forget but God reveals to those that trully believe and eager to know Him. Im mature spiritually but im not nowhere near perfect nor does He expect us to be. Have alot of spiritual armor on i guess you can say. People must start getting right because when the trib starts it will be much harder to find God. He is about to show the world what its like without much of what he does for us. The world is more and more pushing God out and that is why the world is falling apart. Want to know why america is going down? Ask those that complains over every little stupid thing if it involves God and specifically the Christian one which is the true God. Ask those that wants the things that God forbids. When God tells how things should be done it isnt to be bossy, its because it works!

      • Just me

        Well let me educate you. Number one, the tribulation period is NOT the wrath of God. They are two separate things. The wrath of God is poured out at the END of the tribulation period. The SEVENTH angel has the seven vials of wrath. The previous six angels represent the tribulation period.

        Now here are some reasons that we WILL go through the tribulation.
        – That is where the gold and silver is purified (going through the furnace seven times)
        – It is where the oil is pressed out of the olives.
        – It is where the wine is pressed out of the grapes.
        – It is where the wheat is separated from the chaff.
        – It’s where the sheep are separated from the goats.
        – It is where HOPE is produced

        In essence, the rapture is the purifying process that make the Church worthy of being the Bride of Christ. Romans 5:3-5 says “And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation works patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope: And hope makes not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.” So, without tribulation there is no HOPE, because the Church would never have an opportunity to become the pure bride of Christ without spot, blemish or wrinkle.

        The fact is, the rapture is not our hope – tribulation is our hope.

        • Jan Beute

          You go back in time and tell Noah not to build the ark

          • Truthseeker

            Jan beute and any others that think there is a rapture

            Here are the words spoken by Jesus Christ stating it is — AFTER– the tribulation and AFTER the sun be darkened i.e. the heavenly signs of the 6th Seal and then after both the 5th Seal (tribulation) and the 6th Seals (heavenly signs) does the 7th Seal (The Day of the LORD) begin and THEN shall the sign of the return of Jesus Christ appear in the heaven.

            Joel in 2: 31 states it is after the sun be darkened that the Day of the Lord comes.

            and Jan after the last 3 Seals are fulfilled THEN shall the Last Trump (the 7th) blast sound and THEN the angels are sent to gather the elect from the four winds (winds are found on the earth not in heaven) .

            Jan — Jesus Christ teaches the first resurrection occurs at His return, His 2nd return, to earth to rule with a rod of Iron and then the Saints of God will rule with Christ on HIS throne as kings and lords HERE ON EARTH.

            Jan man and Satan have totally corrupted God’s earth do you really believe He will just leave it in that condition??
            The prophecy is the whole earth will become as the Garden of Eden.

            29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

            30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

            31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

            Jan world war 3 is soon to come ( ww 3 is the 4th Seal) and unless you die by famine and disease before it comes YOU will be in that WAR. AND the tribulation does not come until AFTER the 3 World War is over.

          • The Watcher

            THERE WAS NO NOAH!

        • Cinders777

          Dude – if you’re not under spiritual or physical attack RIGHT NOW, I’d wonder if you are truly saved. There are those of us who have been under constant attack from the spiritual side for years and it’s been a living hell. My blessed hope is getting off this demon infested rock when Jesus comes for his true church at the rapture.

          I hope you make it through the tribulation, my friend, because those of us who are prayer warriors won’t be here to help you out.

          I’ll pray you won’t become lunch for the giants. That would be a really nasty way to die.

    • allendaves

      123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

      #1 “ANOTHER JESUS”:
      -“ONE” not triune: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
      PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (text book examples of prov 26:12)

      -PART 5 Echad, Echad, my God, God is Echad!….:The Greek word pros in Jn 1:1 does not demand nor demonstrate multiple different persons because:

      1. The definitions (without forced conclusions stuffed in) are just as equally valid as reference to parts of the same person (modalisim) Your head and your right arm have close relationship to each other; can be facing, towards, relating to, moving to, in the direction of, to, unto, looking to; even at home with, a living union, in the presence of, a common ground, closeness They are still both distinct and different from each other and yet they are of both the same person. Ironically the scriptures use the very same terms to describe father and son.

      2. Ironically and most hypocritically, the trinitarians are trying to appeal to the anthropomorphisms (they claim this passage implies) to demonstrate different persons while at the same time denying the very anthropomorphisms that God himself specifically in scriptures uses to define the son and the son’s relationship to the father. Apparently only the literal anthropomorphisms that trintiarins “see’ exist while the one’s that God himself uses should not be taken too literal or too anthropomorphic or seriously. Is the face anthropomorphic and or literal face or just some metaphor? Either way the problem for trinitarians still exist and simply does not cease with linguistic distractions. There are many different types of faces; face of a clock; face of a mirror; face of one’s palm. Further, the face of one’s palm would be totally consistent with the anthropomorphism that God uses when discussing his own right arm as the son! So either way, a literal and or anthropomorphic face or a metaphorical face in close relationship only leaves the trinitarinas peddling an empty argument hoping no one notices the fact that this argument is nothing more then delusional smoke and mirrors for “the faithful” and for everyone else, well, just “never mind that man behind the curtain”.

      3. You cant appeal to your own desired and or preconceived conclusions as evidence that your methodology in arriving at your conclusions are valid. [ie the use of Jn 1:18 et al as proof that Jn1:1 supports different persons in Jn1:18 et al or visa versa ] How difficult can they make these simple things? The God in heaven is a he but cannot be known except by the he who is the same God in flesh! So why can’t they be the same he again? It should not be difficult to understand since:

      A. The same God who is in heaven is on earth and the difference need only be of circumstance which at least we know that much to be factually true [spirit only v spirit in human flesh] There is no further need or demand for different individual persons since all the different he’s are in fact the same HE!. Trying to claim that God is multiple different “He(s)” who make up the one being either leaves your God to be a “it” that consist of different he(s) or a“God being” who is a he while simultaneously consisting of different individual he(s) [Father-he; Son=he; Holy Spirit=he].

      B. If you find no difficulty in accepting that God is a he that consist of father son and holy spirit also referred to each as a different he and yet all the same he then what is the point to claiming different persons again? How is the multitude of hes who are all the same he show or demand different persons rather than different circumstances of the same person who is in fact “HE”?

      In any case, the trinitarian inconsistency and or incoherence will never be resolved by simply chalking it all up to “how great thou art” unless you willingly and blindly “drink the cool aid” calling it “faith”. True faith is in the words of God (including the specific anthropomorphism God himself uses) not in wild created imaginations of three different persons with different minds, locations and instructions for each other that is somehow not a pantheon of three gods who are only “one in terms of purpose not one god!….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

      -JOHN 14: 8-20 ….[Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father] ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
      Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

      -The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural) Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

      -Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…

      -This should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……Today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into the image of your vain imaginations!
      You can download the complete FREE book from
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy
      OR
      https://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY
      OR
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920799

      #2 “ANOTHER GOSPEL”:
      -If you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention hardly ever. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Now imagine given a report or manual to read and understand, that makes reference to and even quotes other source material and then ignoring that source material when it comes to defining the context and meanings of words in the report or manual you are trying to make sense of. If that seems dysfunctional that is because it is. This is, however, what most people are doing when it comes to understanding sound NT doctrine and or even what the Gospel message of Jesus was. The mystery of the gospel was not the death, burial and resurrection although it is part of it. In fact, death, burial and resurrection was the sign, the only sign, that Jesus gave to validate that the gospel message he was preaching all that time was true……and yet most deny it!?!?!

      -The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. The “idea”/ doctrine that Jesus has not yet returned but “soon any day now soon” does not just make God out a liar; it is not just ridiculous but makes Christianity a mockery, A pathetic “ship of fools”!?!
      -The following example excerpt from Bertrand Russell: sometimes quoted by atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian”
      Defects in Christ’s Teaching
      Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; …. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, “Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.” Then he says, “There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom”; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, “Take no thought for the morrow,” and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
      OR
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069
      OR
      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
      Amazon/Barns & Nobel et al
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

      #3 GOD LOVES EVERYONE; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
      Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
      Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:

      Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
      1John 5:3. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:

      (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

      (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,

      (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
      will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”

      PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell
      OR
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920800
      OR
      https://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell

      THE THIEF-BAPTISM-GRACE& THE NAME-LORD & LT

      “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
      ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
      Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
      Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
      NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
      Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
      1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
      “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )
      Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
      .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
      THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
      The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind…
      https://www.scribd.com/document/326686356/Thief-Cross-3D OR https://www.academia.edu/23846490/Thief_and_Cross_3D

    • The Watcher

      NO RELIGION IS REQUIRED! THERE IS NO HELL OR SATAN! 80% OF THE BIBLE IS FALSE! THERE IS NO JUDGEMENT! EVERYBODY GOES TO HEAVEN TO BE WITH GOD! EVEN LUCIFER IS IN HEAVEN! THERE WILL BE NO RAPTURE! TIBERIUS JULIUS ABDES PANTERA WAS THE FATHER OF THE BASTARD JESUS BY RAPING AN UNDERAGE MARY! IF WE END ALL LIFE ON EARTH, GOD OR JESUS WILL NOT STOP IT! WE TAKE WHAT WE CREATE!

      • jknbt

        take off the capslock key and stop shouting at us, it is rude…you need to open your steel trap shut mind and learn a little if you are going to read this blog…

    • Everette

      There are more than one calling out that take place . First let me say the Bible is very plain when the resurrection will take place . It is even marked in the scripture ! Paul stated that at the Last Trumpet the dead in Christ would rise then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up and changed in a twinkling of an eye . The clue is in this verse . At the last Trumpet . In Revelation we find that there are 7 trumpets that sound . Then 7 viles to be poured out by the same 7 angels that sounded the 7 trumpets . Wait !!! This puts us at the last few chapters of Revelation . If this is right then surely GOD would have stated that somewhere from the last Trumpet sounding to the 7 viles the church would leave out ! But this also means that the church is going thru the tribulation period . I will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the exact verse that states when the dead in Christ shall rise and those left remaining on earth that made it thru the tribulation will be ressurected and taken to Jerusalem . That’s right Jerusalem or Israel . The verse that tells exactly when the resserrection takes place is in Revelation 20:5-6 . This resurrection of the dead are those in Christ because the second resurrection is for the ungodly . This resurrection takes place just before the 1000 year reign of peace where the Prince and the King will be setting up their reign . But wait Jesus said no man knows the exact day this will take place . But Jesus also told us to watch that when certain signs took place then know that the end was near . Then He said watch , be ready for in such an ( Hour ) as you think not then the son of man comes . Wait !!! Jesus is not a son of a man as GOD called Ezekiel many times in his writings . He is the son of a virgin woman . Matthew 24:30-31 Jesus says and He will send His angels to gather His elect , not I will send My angels to gather My elect . In all the other verses in chapter 24 Jesus uses the words I , Me , My and Mine . Who is this son of a man by mans sperm seed that Jesus was seeking of ? The scriptures tell us it is a man of the linage of King David . Ezekiel chapter 44 and 46 call this person the Prince of GOD . John chapter 1 tells us that Jesus was GOD who became flesh to pay the price for mans sins . So this Prince is King Jesus’s Prince . In Revelations 20:5-6 we don’t read that the son of man resurrects these people . But Jesus in Matthew states the son of man will come and gather His elect . The old testament tells us that He will carry them to Mt. Zion in the wilderness and will teach them , feed them and protect them . So when does this take place and who are His elect ? The only verse that gives us the most information is in Revelation 3:7-10 . The church of Philadelphia is the only church out of the 7 that truely pleased GOD . They have kept HIS word of patience . They have little strength but have kept the faith through thick and thin . GOD promises them that when the time of temptation comes that will try all men , they will be kept from that hour and will be protected . HE says I will keep you from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world to try all men . Ok if something awful is coming to all the earth and will try all men , then how is GOD going to keep these from that ? The old testament prophets give the best description . This son of man of King David’s sperm seed will be called up as Daniel states before the ANCIENT OF DAYS and will be given power , glory and a kingdom . Then as Jesus tells us He will return with angles entrusted to Him and will gather the elected Philadelphia church and carry them to Israel in the wilderness of Zion . When all the world experiences darkness that can be felt , these will as the Bible state will have light shining upon them . As the kingdoms of this world begin to crumble and the devil takes it over , these will be protected from it all . The other churches will go thru the tribulation period , they will have to prove their love for GOD . That is why the statement those that endure till the end holding to GOD shall be saved . The elect will be those that have been tried and have proven their love for GOD , holding out tru trials and temptations and still held their love for GOD . It will not be those that were wishy washy , straddling the fence of right and wrong , swaying with every wind of doctrine . These have fought to hold righteousness or right doings even though they were belittled , made fun of , targeted , rejected , left out , all alone trying to do what is right while the others took the path of lest resistance . This is the people that the church thinks they are apart of , the ones being called out before the tribulation strikes earth . No ! Only the proven will get to leave durning this time ! They have already suffered tribulation from the world and even those that call themselves Christians . When these leave the churches will still have services the following sunday with most of their congregation attending . It will be their time to prove where they stand as far as loving GOD . Many will have to die to proving their loyalty to GOD . There will be some that live thru the tribulation period . But it will be much harder than the world we are now living in ! If you are GODs children you will be with HIM forever . But because you did nothing durning the easy years , you will have to earn your rewards durning the hard times that will come upon mankind . There is still time to get in on the ride out with the church of Philadelphia ( church of Love ) . The choice is yours !

    • The Ferrett

      Nowhere in scripture is it taught that man as a transformed body and spirit is lifted up to Heaven at any time – NOWHERE!
      So obviously the Pre tribulation Rapture deception represents yet another false teaching.
      When we are absent from the body, we are present with the Lord (2 Cor 5:8).
      1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
      The timing of when the Elect are changed is obviously at the end of the tribulation period, which has a duration of three and one half years.
      Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets
      Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
      Rev 10:7, refers to Rev 11:15, which is the seventh trumpet. This is also a reference to the last trumpet mentioned in 1Cor 15:52.
      The last trump is at the end of The Great Tribulation period on earth, when we shall be changed, and put on incorruption and immortality. The Pre tribulation Rapture deception is a heresy, and is one of many false beliefs adhered to by those who are merely playing church.
      Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
      Our redemption and Salvation are one in the same and are realized upon Christ’s second coming. Where our Lord is, there also is His kingdom. His first coming was to allow for our salvation, and the second will be to bring our salvation.
      2 Tim 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom
      The Pre tribulation Rapture deception allows for a certain group to escape the judgment, which is impossible.
      1 Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which are dead in Jesus will God bring with him.
      The dead in Christ, are the first to put on incorruption and immortality. Contrary to the Pre tribulation Rapture deception teaching, Christ descends from heaven with the elect, He does not take anyone up to Heaven (1 Cor 15:42-53, 1 Thes 4:13-17).
      1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first
      Is it really plausible that Christ would both bring the dead with Him to earth, and then takes those from earth up to heaven? The Pre tribulation Rapture deception story quickly looses credibility in light of the true teachings of Christ Jesus.
      Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him.
      If we truly were taken to heaven as taught by the Pre tribulation Rapture deception group, Christ would not need to bring anyone to earth.
      1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      This verse above is the primary one used by those who teach of the Pre tribulation Rapture deception . After the tribulation the Lord returns in a cloud, and all eyes shall see Him (Rev 1:7). There is no secret gathering, Christ only returns once, and it is to be very visible.
      Mark 13:24-26 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
      The problem with the Pre tribulation Rapture deception is fourfold:
      • We are not taken up to the kingdom of heaven, but rather Christ brings the kingdom to us.
      Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven (Matt 6:10).
      • Wherever Christ is there the Elect will be also, the Elect are the ones left behind. Those taken are ushered into hell, to await the second death (Rev 19:20, 20:6, 20:10-15).
      • The elect are to reign with Christ for a thousand years. There is only one resurrection for those who are accounted worthy to reign with Christ. The Pre tribulation Rapture deception requires two resurrections. (Rev 20:5-6. Luke 20:35-36).
      • The Pre tribulation Rapture deception requires a third advent of Christ, which is not taught as a true doctrine.
      Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
      The Words of Truth that Jesus spoke do not allow for the Pre tribulation Rapture deception. This fairy tale is not a part of the Gospel message.
      the Pre tribulation Rapture deception is a Satanic plan that will cause a great falling away
      2 Thess 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
      People fail to realize Satan is the god of this world, and that he has used deception and infiltration of the truth to blind the majority. This includes those that claim to believe but do not understand, and cannot therefore follow.
      Once the Pre tribulation Rapture deception is revealed to be another false gospel message, many will fall away from the faith.
      2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
      Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
      the Pre tribulation Rapture deception will be a deception unto damnation for many
      He that endures until the end shall be saved, to teach that Salvation occurs at any other time is also a terribly destructive lie.
      1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
      The infilling of the Holy Spirit is our connection with Christ, that teaches guides and shows us things to come. The true followers of Christ, that are Spirit filled, will not accept lies such as the Pre tribulation Rapture deception.
      1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
      This anointing then purifies the Elect who are set apart and able to deny the lusts of the flesh, and love for the world. It enables them through Faith, to take up their cross and follow the Risen Lord.
      When we are born again, which is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, we are sealed unto the day of redemption. Those who are spirit filled and walk in the truth of the Spirit of Christ, will not partake of the Pre tribulation Rapture deception. As well they also know that Salvation occurs when Christ returns. True believers wait for their Eternal Inheritance which is our Salvation, Redemption and Deliverance. This is destined to be revealed at Christ’s Second Coming
      John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
      This hatred of the truth and those who operate in it will only grow in intensity; now is the time to put ones spiritual armor on.
      Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
      We must, through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Those who are misled by the Pre tribulation Rapture deception do not understand the promises of Christ. One of which is, thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
      the Pre tribulation Rapture deception is a Satanic plan that will cause a great falling away
      2 Thess 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

      People fail to realize Satan is the god of this world, and that he has used deception and infiltration of the truth to blind the majority. This includes those that claim to believe but do not understand, and cannot therefore follow.

      Once the Pre tribulation Rapture deception is revealed to be another false gospel message, many will fall away from the faith.
      2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    • Pink Slime

      There is no rapture. Christians are to be on this earth during the Tribulation. That is why we are told to PRAY that you are worthy to ESCAPE all these thing and to stand before the Son of Man.

      Think about it….. :twisted:

    • Anonymous

      How much time needs to go by before the Rapture is proven BS? Another 2000 years perhaps?

    • beLIEve

      THERE IS NO…..so called “biblical” RAPTURE.

      THERE…I$…A….SIN-a-GOG of $atan NARRATIVE…aka….”vatican” DECEPTION ………….

      WRITTEN into the Bible” at the time of the Reformation by the JeWsuit priest…Francisco Rivera.

      :idea: :lol: :mad: :idea: :lol: :mad:

      Jesuit End Times Antichrist Deception

      http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/jesuit-end-times-antichrist-deception/

      :idea: :lol: :mad: :idea: :lol: :mad:

      IF….anyone “believer” or, otherwise is so called “RAPTuRED” I can only assume it is a DUPLICITOUS $atanic

      kidnap/SEQUESTRATION. :idea:

      There is …NO LAWFUL REMIT…to NEFARIOUSLY DECEPTIVELY & DUPLICITOUSLY ….REMOVE/STEAL…integrity of The

      Prime Creator ….creations…. from the Planes Domains Dominions and Realms of Earth.

      I deny consent in perpetuity retrospectively currently and out over the aeons of time to each and every act of thieving lying heinous perfidious demented mutant filth perpetrated by the …..dark fAR$E$ and their minions stooges and CONtractors in any Domain Dominion and Realm over which The Prime Creator The Great I Am REIGNS Supreme. :smile:

    • N0Edomites

      LOL at the Rapture deception!!

    • Andy

      “When Will the Believing Be Leaving?”

      the sooner the better, religious delusionists have been holding humanity back for millennia

      • Mayhem

        How so, Andy, or do you mean held back as in christianity’s contribution to…

        1 – the preservation of literacy during the dark ages.

        2 – the upholding of axiomatic laws of nature.

        3 – the understanding that observation trumps reasoning.

        4 – a belief that science was a sacred duty.

        http://www.bede.org.uk/sciencehistory.htm

        … or do you not know what you mean and you just heard someone else say that and thought it sounded legit?

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