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Trump’s Air Force One Just Made Urgent Detour on Way to Asia Today, Here’s Where He’s Heading Now

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Trump’s Air Force One Just Made Urgent Detour On Way To Asia Today, Here’s Where He’s Heading Now

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White House CNN Correspondent Sara Murray asks General H.R. McMaster at the press briefing whether President Trump intends to meet with Vladimir Putin on his trip and whether statements the President made about the death penalty for New York Terror suspect will have any effect on the prosecution.

President Donald Trump just left on what’s intended to be his lengthiest overseas trip as Commander-in-Chief, as he was set to tour five countries over the next 11 days in Asia. Not long after Air Force One took off, the crew made a critical detour on the way to the Orient. Where the president is abruptly heading right now is sure to make liberals’ heads burst who were already critical of this trip, accusing him of “leaving his troubles behind,” when in truth he’s confronting them head-on.

Trump’s Asia trip has been planned for months and is an critical element of his presidency. He’s going there to take care of issues critical to America, which includes addressing the persistent problem festering in North Korea, in which he’s set to appear at Kim Jong-un’s doorstep and force him to stand down in his nuclear endeavours of developing a crisis. He’s not forgetting the problems in the homeland that the left is saying he’s running from as there are constantly challenges they create and bigger problems that need his consideration. It’s for this purpose that they are not going to be very joyful when they discover where the leader of the greatest nation in the world is going and what he projects to do despite of what liberals have to say about it.

The original trip was planned to be just ten days, but Trump chose to tack on an additional day to swing by the Philippines. Liberals are fundamentally laughing at this, saying that he’s is not capable of coming back to the U.S. with any accomplishment in this region. Nonetheless, that couldn’t be further from the truth as he demonstrated when he returned from the Middle East having accomplished more in a handful of days there than Barack Obama did in two terms. Nevertheless, he could also be heading for a surprise hook up with Russia’s Vladamir Putin which will certainly send liberals’ ongoing collusion controversy into overdrive. If this comes about as it’s rumored to, the timing is absolutely Trump’s awesome style as it would be a well-played move taking into consideration all the time Congress is presently squandering on this Russian rabbit hole. Likewise, before he even makes it overseas, he’s stopping in Hawaii for a briefing on U.S. military forces in the Pacific and a visit to Pearl Harbor.

The Daily Mail accounts:

Beset by challenges at home, President Donald Trump on Friday embarks on the longest trip to Asia by an American president in more than a quarter century, looking for help to pressure a stand down from a nuclear crisis.

Trump’s tour of Japan, South Korea, China, Vietnam and the Philippines from November 3 to November 14 will take him out of Washington D.C., which is preoccupied with several national issues.

These include an intensifying federal investigation into Russian meddling in last year’s election, New York‘s recovery from an attack that killed eight people and the debate over a tax-cut plan that if approved by Congress would be his first major legislative victory.

Of the meeting with Putin, the Daily Mail explains:

Trump may meet Putin at the APEC summit, the Kremlin said on Friday, saying talks were underway about setting up such an encounter. Putin and Trump first met at a G20 summit in Hamburg in July when they discussed allegations of Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential election, but agreed to focus on better ties rather than litigating the past.

Relations between Moscow and Washington have soured further since, however. Trump in August grudgingly signed off on new sanctions against Russia, a move Moscow said ended hopes for better ties. Putin, dismayed by the sanctions, ordered Washington to more than halve its embassy and consular staff in Russia.

But when asked if Putin and Trump might meet at the summit taking place next week in Vietnam, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Moscow did not rule out such a meeting.

“It (the meeting) is indeed being discussed,” Peskov told reporters on a conference call. “It’s hard to overestimate the importance and significance for all international matters of any contact between the presidents of Russia and the United States,” said Peskov.

Trump is also set to make history with this trip as no other president has spent as much time in Asia on one tour as he plans to, in the last 25 years.”The last time a U.S. president was in Asia for so long was in late 1991 and early 1992, when President George H.W. Bush became ill at a Japanese state dinner,” Mail Online pointed out. “Trump’s extended absence has alarmed some allies who, after seeing a healthcare reform bid fizzle, worry the tax effort could suffer without him at close hand to keep momentum going.”

“It is too long a trip and will only further hurt his most important priority, which is getting his legislative agenda through Congress,” an outside adviser to Trump

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  • King of Shambhala

    Obama’s the Antichrist. Jaywill is agreed with me that Obama’s the Antichrist.
    I personally say that Obama’s real name is Barry Parks and he is the cousin of Rosa Parks.

    There are four reporters at BIN who say like I do, that Obama’s the Antichrist: THE LIGHT, David Montaigne, Mark Brander and Jaywill.
    They’re the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

    I’m the only one in the world proving the following:
    I provide the proof that Obama’s the Antichrist by rational evidence.
    That evidence is that the day of Obama’s victory celebration, the lottery in his homestate drew 666 the Mark of the Beast and that proves BEYOND ANY POSSIBEL DOUBT that Obama’s 150% the Antichrist.

    The chances of 666 being drawn at that place and that moment are impossible to happen.

    • 2QIK4U

      Your Groundhog day. New day New Jest.

    • mitch51

      Dear Brother KOS,

      At one time you were telling everyone in here that Obama was born in Kenya. Did you change your mind? Was Obama born more than one time? Or, are you just full of bullshit? What’s the deal? Trump said he was born in Hawaii, but we know Trump is a liar. Trump probably got it right this time, though. :cool:

    • mitch51

      Dear Brother KOS,

      Who are the Four Assholes Of The Apocalypse again? I forget. :smile:

    • The Troubles

      :idea: :arrow: ..Many are against Christ and General McMaster is a bald headed minion of Satan himself. :twisted:

      :arrow: He is 100 percent COMPROMISED. He has been a Traitor for a very long time. :mad:

      :arrow: He is an Evil Prick. :evil:

      :idea: His Father is watching him, his actions and evil intention. Father is taking copious notes. :shock:

      • King of Shambhala

        The trolls in the comments here are the Minions of Satan announced in the Bible.
        Turn away from them.
        I alone announce the evidence that the day of Obama’s victory celebration, the lottery in his homestate drew 666 the Mark of the Beast and that proves BEYOND ANY POSSIBLE DOUBT that Obama’s 150% the Antichrist.

    • Josie

      I believe it too…

      • King of Shambhala

        Wow Josie, if you also believe Obama’s the Antichrist then there are many reading here too.
        So we are many.
        The Apocalypse is near because we can’t turn back now and must go forth and reveal the Antichrist and Satan Obama: it’s our duty so as to be saved or we’ll burn in hell.

    • dakota

      Bumma not antichrist. William is.

      • ChristopherDrake


    • dakota

      Don’t even think of telling us that relations btwn Washington and Moscow have soured. They are working together and it’s nothing new.

      • unidentified

        they work together for one reason only and that is to acquire massive wealth for their “elite” wealthy leaders like the mafia backed bush family, clinton family, and putin best best friends family to name a few

    • dakota

      Don’t even think of telling us that relations btwn Washington and Moscow have soured. They are working together for the NWO and the take down of America, and it’s nothing new. “Relations” are great as a matter of fact.

  • Pink Slime

    Your government is FOOL of communist. The MSM are ALL communist. Social Media are RUN by communist. These are all smoke & mirror approaches.

    They have to do it this way. Control the medium, control the authority and they think they can control you. FOR if they EVER told you the truth about who they are, what they want done to you, done to your country, you would HANG them the very next day. :twisted:

  • 2QIK4U

    Trump just had to stop off to get a few pounds of Thai sticks and Gold stamped Hashish because Vladimir is bringing the Vodka.

    • mitch51

      Haven’t seen those Thai sticks since the early 70′s. Man, they were the BOMB. :cool:

      • 2QIK4U

        Haha yeah mate they were very tasty. The gold stamped was excellent to mix together but you wouldn’t get off the couch! Glad I learned how to make it when younger it comes in handy today to. Lol so jealous it’s legal where you are. Australia govt is stuck in past about it still

        • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

          After that, who the hell wanted to get off the couch?
          Watching Capt. Kang, Sesame Street…
          And the infamous,”This is the song that never ends, yes, it goes on and on my friends.”
          You may curse my on the marro. :twisted:
          Gotta love stupid, stuck in the head songs… :mad: :lol:

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            curse me… my bad……… Damn short term memory loss!

          • 2QIK4U


        • mitch51

          It has just been legal in Nevada where I live since July 1 for recreational. I’ll tell you what, the medical grade weed where I live will have your head spinning like that chick in the Exorcist. Very, very high THC content and tasty to boot, but you have to be careful. :eek: :eek:

      • 2QIK4U

        I was still getting the Thai sticks up until the late 90′s

        • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

          :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • unidentified

    maybe he and melania just want to get away for a while, nothing wrong with that :wink: :wink:


    The issue of the trump flying to meet putin is statecraft, being on the verge of an attack as the public image goes is an effort to link the attack to some kind of support from putin whether putin recognizes that is fundamental to china’s perception. The US trump is not playing a game of blackjack here with one player he is playing poker with 8 players all with tighter ties to each other than he with the marks he is trying to play. The resultant is going to be a stupendous miscalculation if any agreement is attempted to be played as partial to any issue other than a political settlement which is not for the parties to demand in this NK case while there is debacle of illegal wars and coups by the US in Syria and Ukraine and heat in the S. China Sea. The US as usual ass kissed themselves to near death and maybe well may be on the verge of kissing themselves to death to believe that they can get their cake and eat it too. The US has been under a microscope since the official endorsement of law via the Bush Jr Preemptive Strike Doctrine authorizing the US to act as US pirate of any helpless regime starboard or aft and the understanding by competitors Russia and China is that the issue has been for them a test of the US, is the US a partner in world affairs or a dictator in world affairs, so far the vote is dictator on a rampage of desperately trying to make ends meet to make up for the US internal loss of 22 trillion stolen, skimmed and embezzled from the US economy by the PENTAPRINTINGMONEYGONE and HUD the Housing and URBAN MONEY LAUNDERING ENTITY. SO now with all the pirates at their stations they demand NK settle for no nukes without changing course, the US demands Syria and Ukraine and some other countries too like Iran and a few others for now and the pirates are very worried that their booty never involved being shot at in the US and so NK brings that home and they are in fear of the house of pirate cards bankruptcy will fall and the whole mess will wind up with them all living underground in bunkers and so deals are being offered to russia and china and there is not going to be a deal the pirates can live with, its American Indian time ladies and gentlemen, the pirates will offer contrition for the time being and do what they want as a gamble with trump as the sacrifice, if the effort to strike NK, Iran, Syria and Ukraine cannot be accomplished and war blooms the trump is by the pirates planned to be sacrificed and blamed for the war to bring it to a close, there will be an oops there goes trump we took him out and does that solve our problem of having a war please say yes. Alternatives are

  • Man

    no, he has a planned trip to visit vietnam, china, south korea and japan

    • unidentified

      presidential trips to asia have been known to be dangerous in the past, remember when the imperial family of china tried to poison president bush and barbara gave him the heimlich manuever? :?:

  • Tedx

    If Trump won’t start WW#, ZOG will take him out and make it look like the N.Koreans or Iranians did it.


      Be more believable if he had an Elvis attack and died on the throne. Throw a few empty solid gold ice cream bowls on the floor for effect. Double chocolate!! With caramel sauce!!!

  • allendaves

    123′s of the most popular & damndable heresies

    “ONE” not triune: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
    PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (text book examples of prov 26:12)

    PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN! “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

    JOHN 14: 8-20 ….[Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father] ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

    The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural) Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

    Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…

    This should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……Today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into the image of your vain imaginations!
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    If you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention hardly ever. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Now imagine given a report or manual to read and understand, that makes reference to and even quotes other source material and then ignoring that source material when it comes to defining the context and meanings of words in the report or manual you are trying to make sense of. If that seems dysfunctional that is because it is. This is, however, what most people are doing when it comes to understanding sound NT doctrine and or even what the Gospel message of Jesus was. The mystery of the gospel was not the death, burial and resurrection although it is part of it. In fact, death, burial and resurrection was the sign, the only sign, that Jesus gave to validate that the gospel message he was preaching all that time was true……and yet most deny it!?!?!
    The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. The “idea”/ doctrine that Jesus has not yet returned but “soon any day now soon” does not just make God out a liar; it is not just ridiculous but makes Christianity a mockery, A pathetic “ship of fools”!?!
    The following example excerpt from Bertrand Russell: sometimes quoted by atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian”
    Defects in Christ’s Teaching
    Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; …. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, “Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.” Then he says, “There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom”; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, “Take no thought for the morrow,” and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.
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    #3 God loves everyone; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
    Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
    Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:
    Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
    1John 5:3. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
    PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!

    Col 2:12 “……though the operation(work) of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT WORK?

    The thief-baptism-grace& the name-Lord & LT

    “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
    ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
    Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
    Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
    NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
    Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
    1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
    “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )
    Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
    .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
    THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
    The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind… OR

    ………………..For the love of God if you truly have any love for God

  • church of the 1stborn

    Hi allendaves, there is a way out of your unbelief its all you write about(if your were saved you would be writing about the whole
    world. God judged and was given Jesus judgment of rewards only by His mercy, by His grace by His faith to faith plus no sin law works needed.

    Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

    Everything behind Paul =no salvation (only for learning)

    Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

    You quoted this
    #3 God loves everyone; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
    Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
    Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:
    Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
    1John 5:3. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
    PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!

    Churches,pastors,theologians,apologetics’s, apostolic,seminaries of all strip,are not teaching Jew & Gentile’s how to be the bride/Lamb’s 3rd wife
    that he might have mercy upon all or John 3:16
    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    God judged the whole world as sinners to save them by mercy by grace by faith to faith alone(not of sin law flesh bondage works)
    Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

    Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

    Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

    Ephesians 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Philippians 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

    1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith:
    so do.
    We are by mercy by grace by faith to faith alone ministers of Christ

    Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
    Titus 1:4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father
    and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

    –Acts 9 to Hebrews, Paul wrote Hebrews for the hidden Christian sect or royal family highest priesthood Acts 15 and Jeremiah 33 are the bridegroom and brides hid rapture chapters dealing with the main body of families of saints—-

    Nazarene’s and Christian’s all were to be Christian’s and His hidden bride by the ministry of reconciliation

    Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

    Psalm 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

    1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

    Rapture any second:I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
    Romans 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

    Reason why they don’t see our rapture gospel faith
    2 Corinthians 4:4
    In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
    Reason why they don’t see our rapture gospel faith 2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    Acts 26:18To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

    Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    Romans 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

    Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

    Isiah 60:^And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

    2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

    Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

    Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling,consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

    * Gentile rapture bride highest priesthood Absolved of last 7 years of tribulation and wrath NO YOKE No Daniel 2:9 NO last 7 weeks *
    Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

    Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    for the dullards risen Lord God Jesus our Christ Lord and Savior of the live& dead spirits He died and chose to quicken and save the whole world

    God judges all as sinners then make all righteous to save the whole world
    Romans 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Isaiah 52:10 The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
    Isaiah 55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

    John 5:(KJV)21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

    Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners,Christ died for us.

    Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
    Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy,and whom he will he hardeneth.

    Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;that blindness in part is happened to Israel,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Rev21:9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues,and talked with me,saying, Come hither,I will shew thee the bride,the Lamb’s wife.

    John10:16And other sheep I have,which are not of this fold:them also I must bring,and they shall hear my voice;and there shall be one fold,and one shepherd.

    Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

    Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

    Peters Messianic w/Gentile proselyte’s Jewish 4 sin law flesh bondage works gospels(were ok until Jesus opened a new righteousness door)
    (120 at the upper room got the sinners promise) the rest got the 4 sin law gospels as a honey pot as a haunt dragons and owls &
    thief and a robber’s.

    Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

    I have set before thee an open door* His righteousness rapture door for the bridegroom & His hidden wise Gentile rapture bride,Lamb’s wife (*the only saints with light placed in the body of Christ.)
    1 Corinthians 16:9 For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries.

    1 Timothy 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

    1 Corinthians 6:14-20 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

    15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

    16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

    17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

    18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

    19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

    1 Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are

    He saved the other sheep His hidden wise Gentile bride Liberty churches of 1st born as 1st fruits BUT gave the reconciliation to the main goat milk flock other saints also
    Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

    Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

    If your using the law your climbing in the wrong door during the dispensation of Christ rapture and the rapture of His bride

    John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

    Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

    Peter lost his priesthood and his 7 Jewish sin law churches Given to Pauls by mercy by grace by faith to faith plus no works Hebrews 4
    Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
    ——-The ungodly churches don’t understand how to preach Exodus 19:6————
    Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

    Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

    Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

    The free rapture gift for whole world
    Romans 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
    The free rapture gift for whole world
    Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
    The free rapture gift for whole world
    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    This good news 4 sin law bondage flesh works faith is dead
    Peters Acts 2 Ye men of Israel repent be baptized renew rededicate(all dead)
    This put you under the law Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    2 Corinthians 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
    (Peters goat milk priesthood and 7 sin law flesh bondage works faith churches “were perfect” as law ministration of condemnation )

    Acts 18:25 – 28This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

    Acts 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

    Acts 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:

    Acts 18:28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.

    Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    Acts 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

    Romans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

    Galatians 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

    Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
    1 Corinthians 15:12-26
    Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

    1 Corinthians 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

    1 Corinthians 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

    16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

    1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

    1 Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

    1 Corinthians 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

    1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

    1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

    1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    Were the 1st fruits, church of 1st born- we don’t die the second death
    2 Timothy 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
    2 Timothy 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who
    hath chosen him to be a soldier.
    Hebrews 11:28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
    I teach this mystery Matthew 14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.

    Bride gets Jesus rewards only faith judgement John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

    1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

    Keep your mouth shut pray always looking up loving his appearing at rapture our great hope by faith alone
    1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

    1 Corinthians 11:34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

    Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

    Don’t follow anyone saying your not a man or a Christian if you don’t do this or that,or what they or pastor or church says you have to do this & that- nope they want to satisfy their flesh. (go back to the Acts 9 to Hebrews grace New Covenant by faith alone scriptures ) Acts 9 to Hebrews the law door closes slowly and righteousness door opens slowly.

    Priesthoods and priests and sects in a caste system

    Saul now Paul preached all 3 of the last 5 priesthoods (1 Corinthians 10:32 explains why nobody can figure out Paul and they hate him-they would burn him out of the bible)(whole world was saved to come into Paul’s last and highest priesthood as the hidden wise Gentile rapture strong meat Christ quickened spirit led virgin bride) 1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
    Hidden wise Gentile rapture bride Lamb’s wife royal family highest priests and judges and counseller’s /other sheep; already in heaven, discussing the day of wrath great white throne of wrath many books judgment only for the main flock of sheep other 2 families of saints

    Jeremiah 33:11 The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the Lord of hosts: for the Lord is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause to return the captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the Lord.

    Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)-the bride/Lamb’s 3rd wife we have risen Lord God Jesus Christ (rapture faith and His rewards only judgment also.
    2 Corinthians 6:9 unknown and famous. And we commend ourselves as God’s workers headed for death, yet look! we’re alive! as punished, yet not killed;

    Psalm 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
    Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
    Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    Jeremiah 33:24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

    The wise hidden Gentile rapture bride/Lamb’s 3rd wife we teach Father’s vineyards/we teach wives of Christ/dispensation’s doors, fallen law gospels and righteous hidden wise rapture door gospel
    Job 24:18 He is swift as the waters; their portion is cursed in the earth: he beholdeth not the way of the vineyards.

    Whole world was already judged ( mercy given to all , then by grace by faith to faith alone *no Temple works no Moses laws rituals,customs,feast or Acts 2 works needed absolved in Acts 15 No yoke blameless, no tribulation ,no wrath, no day of wrath, or throne of wrath only judgment-J.C. overcomer’s get the eternal shameful white stone they can only reflect like stars, Jesus and the bride’s light.
    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

    Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed
    not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

    Matthew 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
    The oil of Jesus & His brides rapture faith our great hope
    Matthew 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

    4 sin law bondage works gospels= soul death even King David know the mystery’s of the horrors of
    the sinners door Psalm 26:9 Gather not my soul with sinners, nor my life with bloody men:

    Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

    Bride teaches this mystery 1 Kings 2:33 Their blood shall therefore return upon the head of Joab, and upon the head of his seed for ever: but upon David, and upon his seed, and upon his house, and upon his throne, shall there be peace for ever from the Lord.

    Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you,”declares the Lord,“plans to prosper you and not to harm you,
    plans to give you hope and a future.
    sinners prayer 2 B born again under sin law works abolished/We are under Grace

    John 9:3Now weknow that God heareth not sinners:but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will,
    him he heareth.

    Paul the revelator, Acts 9 to Hebrews .
    Hebrews is the hidden book of high priesthood our order,profession
    2 Corinthians 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to
    visions and revelations of the Lord.
    Eph2:8-9For by grace are ye saved through faith;and that not of yourselves:it is the gift of God:9 Not of works,
    lest any man should boast.

    webpqk at gmail dot com Randy Lewis We need to clean up the sin law works churches of Hebrews 6:1-8 tares Acts 2 born again repent baptize renew rededicate.

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