The God of the Christians Murders the 5 Sons of Rachel in Order to Have a Birthday Party for Jesus
What part of the “Not my time” concept do Christian not understand about the starting of the Messiah’s Ministry! Jesus said “No” to His mother’s request that would have gotten Him His 15 minutes of fame and at the same time pleased His mother instead of God. Only His Heavenly Father knows when Jesus is to start and complete His “Good News Gospel” Ministry and message. In other words, no demon, angel or human being knows when The Messiah is to start His ministry. If Jesus is 30 when Mary asks Him to do her a favor and Jesus says that His time has not come to do a miracle; then you can know for sure that the other 29 years and 9 months of His human existence are also to be silent and uneventful in the life of Jesus.
Jesus never did any miracles when He was a new born baby, child, teenager or young adult because that would have attracted the attention of Satan, demons and evil men and women who would want to do Him harm. Neither Joseph, Mary, his brothers, sisters, their extended family members, friends, Synagogue leaders, political leaders or strangers ever worshipped or prayed to Jesus in the first 29 years of His life. Jesus and the Apostles their whole lives are like a “Sleeper cell” terrorist group that only is activated when their “Mission” is to start.
Our Creator God is the only actor on the stage in the Heavenly Theater play that is acting out the drama of human Redemption and Salvation of us all. God is a jealous God and He doesn’t share His stage with any demons, angels or humans. Satan and humans like to pretend their actions contribute to our redemption story. That is why after a few hundred years after all the Apostles, their children and grand-children are all dead; then the pagans who are coming to Christ for salvation have blended some of their pagan and Christian beliefs. We know that this happened because the Apostle Paul said that “After his death that grievous wolves would come in and not spare the flock”.
All pagans that had studied Greek Mythology and their pagan religions believe that any “God” who could become a human man would have to be born of a virgin because all males who get a female pregnant “All” produce a sinful child or children. One article I read said that Christianity would have “Died out” a few hundred years after the death of all those Christians who walked the earth with Jesus. If there was no virgin birth presented in the Gospel Story (nativity scene) the pagans would reject Christianity because The Christ would inherit a “Sinful nature” if Joseph was His father (so they think). People ignore that fact that Mary had a sin nature, for she called Jesus her Savior, only sinners need a Savior. The only way to keep Jesus sinless would be for Jesus to come into this world full grown like Adam and Eve or born of a virgin (no sin transmitted that way, so the pagans thought).
As I have said elsewhere, Jesus cannot be touched by sin, simply because God didn’t put a “Human”, “Created” spirit in the body of Jesus; God put His own Spirit in the body of Jesus (therefore Joseph and Mary gave Jesus His flesh, bone and blood body, human “Like us”, thank goodness); and God’s own spirit that indwells Jesus can’t be touched by sin. In the same way that a Christian will say that their body is the temple of God’s Holy Spirit; and no Christian can corrupt the Spirit of God that indwells them.
Also, at the same time that the Christians are embracing a virgin birthed Messiah, the Jews are not reciprocating, but now are rejecting The Christian Messiah after the carnal Christians start teaching that the Jews need to believe in a virgin birthed Messiah; because for the last 2,000 years, the Jews have only been looking for a Messiah that is a blood relative of King David (The Davidic Covenant). Joseph and Mary are “Both” related to King David. For no Christian should worship a counterfeit Messiah that excludes Jesus from being related to Joseph and King David on Joseph’s side of the family.
If only the Christians had a loving, all knowing and practical God who would keep all these humans from stealing or sharing God’s Glory on the stage of Redemption, while the “Son of man” is on center stage and in the spot-light. Isn’t it strange that God is able to get a virgin pregnant but He is unable to protect Jesus and His family where they were (pagan thought)? They have to leave the country. Joseph, Mary, wise men, Sheppard’s, and the Roman soldiers all seem to enjoy having the spot-light on them; and Satan congratulates all of them at the end of their performance and Satan encourages them to take a second bow before all the demons, angels and humans who are in the audience (so as to direct human thoughts away from our Creator God Emmanuel, God with us).
If Rachel is a loving mom to her 5 sons she will not want to offer up her children on the altar of what is expedient to make Rachael, Joseph, Mary and others famous and important to billions of Christians these last 2,000 years, for no created being (demon, angel or human has anything to do with our salvation). Mary didn’t create Jesus in her womb and Mary’s morality didn’t keep or make Jesus sinless. Jesus was sinless because there was no “Created” “Human” spirit in Jesus (so Jesus could stay perfect, because God’s Son will never yield to temptation even with Joseph as His human father. God mainly chose Joseph and Mary to be the parents to Jesus because they had the same kind of faith that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and King David had; and their self-righteous wasn’t worthy of consideration!
Could it be that Rachel was a 1st Century media whore in the 1st Century and this is her last desperate attempt to make sinful humans think they have a part in the Redemption of mankind? Rachel’s 5 sons are the same age as Jesus. If God had of waited until Jesus starts His Ministry Rachel’s 5 sons might have eaten dinner with the 5,000 other hungry people and might have trusted in Jesus as their Messiah; but evidently 5 babies are dead because God doesn’t care if innocent people die when the truth about Jesus is released. This truth revealed prematurely has turned the knowledge and blessings of God’s Son into a curse to the very humans that God wants to save.
God didn’t need to inform Mary, Joseph, the angels or any other human on the planet when and how God would redeem mankind. In the same way a 5 Star General doesn’t let the Private run his “War games” There is no human or angel involvement in accomplishing God’s plan of Salvation. God creates the miracle of childbirth or spiritual birth and humans do not get any credit for the miracle of conception, growth and birth of a child or being born-again. The angel saying “you will have a child” means that Mary didn’t even have a choice, and she is a victim of God raping her. God the Father is the classic dead-beat dad. God gets Mary pregnant, and leaves town without paying child support and gets the step-father to raise God’s Son. If there was a virgin birth, Joseph and Mary can never tell anyone, for if Joseph says that he is not the father of Jesus then everyone who knows Mary will condemn her or laugh at her and consider her an adulteress. If God loves Mary, then why wouldn’t God just let Mary think that Joseph is the father of Jesus, if the virgin birth is true? God doesn’t need Mary’s consent, approval or help in redeeming mankind. And no angel or human causes, adds to or completes God Redemptive plan of Salvation for only God can save us.
The Christian God is guilty of reckless endangerment of His own Son and God putting Joseph, Mary and other humans and angels on the same pedestal of importance where the Son of God is standing; would be like putting Satan, demons, and a pig on the same pedestal with the Son of God. God reveals who Jesus is when Jesus and His Apostles do all those miracles. God’s Deity (not the human flesh of Jesus) is confirmed by the miracles Jesus and the Apostles did. The family of Jesus didn’t believe Jesus was the Messiah until after His Resurrection. They said He is a lunatic, and out of His mind (saying, “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father”).
The Protestant Reformation is proof that Christianity was changed; otherwise there would not have been anything to REFORM, if the traditions of men and doctrines of demons hadn’t added error to what Jesus and the Apostles taught.
Also, the fact that Christians have a Protestant and Catholic Bible is proof that there are 10’s of thousands of word that one translation either adds to or deletes from God’s Word. 1st Century Christian writings all had the same word content and message (no Catholic or Protestant denominational dogma.
Christians are very naive when they think our Christians forefathers could perfectly discern between the Truth of God and the doctrines of Men. In the 21 Century there are 100’s of Christian denominations in the U.S. of A. and every Christian says their Bible and church doctrines are Biblically correct and perfect. I can’t prove that the original New Testament was without error (in this totally fallen corrupt world). But our “Perfect” Christian Bible is sure causing a lot of confusion, division, strife, legalism and emotional pain. Nothing is perfect in a fallen universe, but God “Our Messiah: made flesh!!!
Sincerely,
ArthurTrafford.com
P.S. Christians will say Jesus is “Wholly” human. True, but he is not human like the rest of us UNLESS he has a human father. With no human father, Jesus is not 100 % a part of Adam and Eve’s family tree. I have parents, grand parents and great grandparents, just like Jesus had.
When Jesus’ family had family reunions, Jesus would be with Joseph (his father) and Mary (his mother). And if you could give Jesus and his family members a DNA test, you could trace the lineage of Jesus, back through Mary, Joseph and his grandparents and great grandparents ALL THE WAY BACK TO ADAM AND EVE !!!
If Jesus doesn’t have Joseph’s DNA then Jesus is only HALF related to King David and Bathsheba and he is not the “Promised” Messiah that the Jews are looking for.
This also means that only one-half of humanity is touched by the humanness of Jesus, because the person of Joseph rightly “Connects” Jesus to every generation of Adam and Eve. Every male and female is made in the image of God; and the image of God living inside of Jesus has to represent and touch “All” humans in every generation.
All humans desire a human mother and father to raise them, and so would Jesus. A stepparent for Jesus in all cultures is socially considered a secondary class citizen and less important, and is not perceived as the “Idealistic” or desirable family situation in which to raise the child Jesus; so grandparents would probable surmise.
Sincerely,
ArthurTrafford.com
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Insane much?
Applying sanhedrin style legalism to God’s Word will only help you indict yourself, trafford.
Accusing God of “raping” Mary, whom you liken to a pig, among other castigations, only reveals that it is you who is doing the ‘raping’ here…
Of your own mind, and that of any who would be foolish enough to listen to you.
Read the whole of Romans 2.
L.O.L.
Trafford
People ignore that fact that Mary had a sin nature, for she called Jesus her Savior, only sinners need a Savior. The only way to keep Jesus sinless would be for Jesus to come into this world full grown like Adam and Eve or born of a virgin (no sin transmitted that way, so the pagans thought).
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Humans do not have a sinful nature. Saying that they do is saying that God created humans as sin.
Mary did not have a sinful nature anymore than Jesus, who was fully human and fully God had a sinful nature.
You have been TOLD this repeatedly and are persisting in supressing it.
You are not just claiming that your complete ignorance of the Bible and Christianity gives you the authority to rewrite both you are claiming your knowingly being wrong about the Bible and Christianity gives you alone the authority to rewrite them.
Hello Damn Ei:
Everyone who has a human “Created” spirit in them has a sin nature; you, me and Mary & Joseph etc.
Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”
James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.
Everyone who has a human “Created” spirit in them has a sin nature; you, me and Mary & Joseph etc.
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Jesus is wholly human and wholly God
God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Hello Paul:
Thanks for using “Real peoples names”, and not like the individuals who have no backbone, who hide behind anonymity and who are fearful of their identity being “Known”.
You are the legalistic Christian Pharisee who promotes the Catholic heresies’ that replaced the “Original” Bible text that the Apostles gave us to read. So, let Jesus be human like us “In every way” but without a sin nature. And let Jesus get married and have those “Organisms” that “All” NORMAL males desire L.O.L.
God getting Mary to do something “Unnatural” (the Immaculate Conception and the virgin birth) and call it normal and necessary is just simply ludicrous.
Most Christians are unknowingly in bondage to worshiping pagan dogma formulated to their religious roots that have been added to Christianity that predates the life of Jesus and which is about 700 years before his birth on this earth.
Sincerely,
ArthurTrafford.com
I THOMAS, an Israelite, judged it necessary to make known to our brethren among the Gentiles, the actions and miracles of Christ in his childhood, which our Lord and God Jesus Christ wrought after his birth in Bethlehem in our country, at which I myself was astonished; the beginning of which was as followeth.
2 ¶ When the child Jesus was five years of age and there had been a shower of rain, which was now over, Jesus was playing with other Hebrew boys by a running stream; and the water running over the banks, stood in little lakes;
3 But the water instantly became clear and useful again; he having smote them only by his word, they readily obeyed him.
4 Then he took from the bank of the stream some soft clay, and formed out of it twelve sparrows; and there were other boys playing with him.
5 But a certain Jew seeing the things which he was doing, namely, his forming clay into the figures of sparrows on the sabbath day, went presently away, and told his father Joseph, and said,
6 Behold, thy boy is playing by the river side, and has taken clay, and formed it into twelve sparrows, and profaneth the sabbath.
7 Then Joseph came to the place where he was, and when he saw him, called to him, and said, Why doest thou that which it is not lawful to do on the sabbath day?
8 Then Jesus clapping together the palms of his hands, called to the sparrows, and said to them: Go, fly away; and while ye live remember me.
9 So the sparrows fled away, making a noise.
10 The Jews seeing this, were astonished, and went away, and told their chief persons what a
Hello FALSE E:
It is amazing that you will believe Jesus did miracles at 5 years of age (which is a pagan thought from a Jewish or Christian standpoint) because it would serve no purpose (for his ministry didn’t start at age 5). After the Protestant Reformation, Protestants had a hard time discerning TRUTH from FICTION, because sinful humans like you have added mythology and doctrines of demons to our Christian Bible.
And you will be OFFENDED if Jesus does something “Normal” like getting married, having sex and produced a child, “Just like” human male in the 21st Century.
Your counterfeit Messiah Jesus isn’t 100 % related to King David unless Joseph is his father. Satan deceived Adam and Eve and he also deceived 1 billion Catholics and 1 billion Protestants who have Jesus living an abnormal lifestyle.
Go to a wedding and after the service is over, go up to the bride and ask her if she wants GAWD or her husband to get her pregnant. I guarantee she will think that you are crazy and “Out of your mind” with you delusional thoughts.
Damn Ei says Jesus is “Wholly” human. True, but he is not human like the rest of us UNLESS he has a human father. With no human father, Jesus is not 100 % a part of Adam and Eve’s family tree. I have parents, grand parents and great grandparents, just like Jesus had.
When Jesus’ family had family reunions, Jesus would be with Joseph (his father) and Mary (his mother). And if you could give Jesus and his family members a DNA test, you could trace the lineage of Jesus, back through Mary, Joseph and his grandparents and great grandparents ALL THE WAY BACK TO ADAM AND EVE !!!
If Jesus doesn’t have Joseph’s DNA then Jesus is only HALF related to King David and Bathsheba and he is not the “Promised” Messiah that the Jews are looking for.
This also means that only one-half of humanity is touched by the humanness of Jesus, because the person of Joseph rightly “Connects” Jesus to every generation of Adam and Eve. Every male and female is made in the image of God; and the image of God living inside of Jesus has to represent and touch “All” humans in every generation.
All humans desire a human mother and father to raise them, and so would Jesus. A stepparent in probably all cultures is socially considered a secondary class citizen and less important, and is not perceived as the “Idealistic” desirable family situation in which to raise a child; so grandparents would probable surmise.
Sincerely,
ArthurTrafford.com
You define Human as not being Joseph’s son (because you are a moron).
That is not a definition of human
Not 50% human 50% God
Wholly human wholly God
That should be
You define human as being Josephs son.
That is not a definition of human
Hello Damn Ei:
A human is an offspring or descendent of Adam and Eve’s family tree. And all generations have one thing in common with all the other generations throughout human history. The preceding and following generations came or will come into being through the sexual intercourse of “One male” and “One female” (no exception). This is what is means for Jesus to become like us, to work, eat, sleep, marry and have children and grandchildren
Hebrews 2:17 “For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way…. and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.” In every way means, normal birth and lifestyle (married with child).
Arthur Trafford and Jesus weren’t human until his human father and human mother had sex. God created me, but God uses 2 humans that are experiencing either lust or love in order to create me.
Damn Ei, you keep forgetting why Jesus is perfect; it isn’t because he was born of a virgin. Jesus is perfect because God keeps his human body and human mind from sinning. God has that kind of power and no human intervention in a virgin birth is needed.
Arthur’s conception and birth is just a miraculous as a virgin birth because God is doing the miracle and His miracles don’t have any degree of difficulty. Christians believe in the virgin birth story only because our sinful forefathers added the concept to our Christian Bible.
Sincerely,
ArthurTrafford.com
Trafford
The preceding and following generations came or will come into being through the sexual intercourse of “One male” and “One female” (no exception).
This is what is means for Jesus to become like us, to work, eat, sleep, marry and have children and grandchildren
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You can keep trying to argue it is against the laws of nature for someone to have had no children but it just demonstrates that you are a cretin. Jesus was cut down. This means he died childless.
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Human….In every way means, normal birth and lifestyle (married with child).
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No. It doesn’t. That’s moronic.
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Arthur Trafford and Jesus weren’t human until his human father and human mother had sex. God created me, but God uses 2 humans that are experiencing either lust or love in order to create me.
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Eve was human and not the product of sex.
ArthurTrafford.com is not Eve
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Damn Ei, you keep forgetting why Jesus is perfect; it isn’t because he was born of a virgin.
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How would you know? Is individual human perfection never having to correct ArthurTrafford.com?
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Arthur’s conception and birth is just a miraculous as a virgin birth because God is doing the miracle and His miracles don’t have any degree of difficulty. Christians believe in the virgin birth story only because our sinful forefathers added the concept to our Christian Bible.
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You still have to explain why all of Jesus’ female ancestors in the non-Christian Bible were ‘whores’ by your lights (not that I believe for a second that a tweedle dee spouting nutcase like you will REMOTELY give a crap about such ‘whores’ of course. This ‘our’ Christian Bible of you who are not a Christian being ArthurTraffordspeak for ‘Fake Bible’.
Damn Ei, it is amazing how someone can promote witchcraft and demonology (using the witch icon) and have the audacity to argue about Christian Theology. You are pagan to the core and there is nothing Christian about you beliefs L.O.L. You proclaim the Catholic lies but you don’t embrace the Christian lifestyle (you just like to argue).
You keep forgetting that Jesus isn’t God. Another way to say that is, the body of Jesus isn’t Deity, but only flesh, blood and bone that is created by Joseph and Mary and can be traced back to Adam and Eve via Joseph and Mary’s family genealogy.
The Spirit of God indwells the physical body of Jesus and that is why Jesus can get married and have children. Jesus can get married just like all other males can. You need to know and proclaim that the Catholics deleted and destroyed truth that was in the Bible and replaced it with lies that you now believe.
You are fearful of loosing your faith, and you would be emotionally disturbed and heartbroken if you came to realize you are wrong. God doesn’t stop you and me from sinning and God didn’t stop the Pope and priest of Rome from adding, deleting or changing Christian scripture to fit the needs of the Catholic Church. Otherwise the pagans in the 4th Century would refuse to become Christians if Christians preached a Jewish Messiah instead of the counterfeit Christian messiah.
REPENT and PROCLAIM the Truth
Now that you having finished jerking off at the thought of Jesus not being God incarnate but still to be worshiped insofar as he is the son of Jospeh
You can explain to me why all of Jesus’ female ancestresses are ‘whores’ by your lights
You still have not done this
After being asked to do so every time you pop up to start whining about your projected cuck issues