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"Complete disarmament" of the American people
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Monday, July 16, 2012
The UN Arms Trade Treaty that has been identified by observers as a flagrant threat to the second amendment and which Barack Obama is determined to sign has its roots in a 1961 State Department memorandum which explains how the United Nations will oversee "complete disarmament" of the American people under the ruse of preventing war. The UN Arms Treaty has caused so much controversy because it outlines a plan to target "all types of conventional weapons, notably including small arms and light weapons," according to Forbes' Larry Bell.
Former US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton also warns that the agreement "is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there is no doubt that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control."
A letter sent last month by 130 Republican House members to President Obama argued that the treaty should be rejected because it infringes on the "fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms". The letter adds that "…the U.N.'s actions to date indicate that the ATT is likely to pose significant threats to our national security, foreign policy, and economic interests as well as our constitutional rights."
Using the rhetoric of the threat post by terrorists, insurgents and "international crime syndicates," the UN is busy trying to imply that all weapons are somehow involved in illegal activity on a global scale and should therefore be controlled and regulated by a global authority.
This is precisely the same language used in a 1961 U.S. State Department briefing which outlined a long term agenda to carry out a "Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World."
Invoking the threat of nuclear warfare, the document spells out a plan to create a "United Nations Peace Force" that would "enforce the peace as the disarmament process proceeds."
While the document initially focuses on scrapping nuclear weapons, it later makes it clear that the only groups allowed to own weapons of any kind would be governing authorities, "for the purpose of maintaining internal order," and the UN "peacekeeping" force itself, which would require "agreed manpower."
"The manufacture of armaments would be prohibited except for those of agreed types and quantities to be used by the U.N. Peace Force and those required to maintain internal order. All other armaments would be destroyed or converted to peaceful purposes," states the document. While the memorandum outlines a broader mandate to destroy national sovereignty, eviscerate national armies and institute the UN as the planet's supreme authority with a world army, the document serves as a stark reminder that the plan for the United Nations to oversee the abolition of the second amendment has been in the works for decades.
As Bell points out in his Forbes article, the threat of the Obama administration relying on a UN treaty to do what successive administrations have tried but failed to accomplish — taking a huge bite out of the second amendment — is by no means far fetched.
After all, a plethora of UN treaties and international agreements have already stripped the United States of its sovereignty and its power to decide its own laws. The power to authorize U.S. involvement in wars and conflicts has now been almost completely stripped from Congress and handed to the United Nations.
they will get your guns…U.N. troops will descend on every burg and burrough. every street every peaceful country road. They’ll shoot your pregnant wife and dog hold an AR to your head and demand every weapon you possess. And you’ll comply. Despite the lies to the contrary they have the records they require to identify all 80 million of us. Have no doubt that is what they seek, and have willing anxious downright giddy american citizens ready to assist them. The senate and house and every state house have large numbers of members ready to complete the coup. County and city governments and school boards and on and on….We have allowed it ………it is here… it is real. I fear no man, but i fear this government. but most of all i fear that God will allow us to suffer through it because we deserve it. Bury what arms and ammunition you can, keep self defense firearms handy express your love to your family……But be prepared to kiss your ass goodby….
Google Pravda English 11-07-2012 They explain how we gave up our freedom without a whimper, and how Putin advised BHO that socialism doesn’t work…We say we will fight to keep our weapons, but big brother has ways to make you give them up and they will use them. Our last line of defense is the 10th Amendment…get your states to nullify federal over-reach. Look up the “10th Amendment Center” for help
I bet if they show up in the US and word gets around that they are confiscating guns, that anytime there is the opportunity, people will be hacking at them. If patriots can take out two or three for every patriot killed it won’t take long.
Now nobody attacks the government and their supporters because there is too much to lose. People just have the attitude that “if they come for me then I will fight, but it is not worth starting the fight myself”. But that will quickly change and there will be millions of independent actions against targets of opportunity. There will be no organization; just angry individuals, acting alone or in small groups, getting revenge. It will be like Iraq X 100,000.
If you want to understand what it will be like, read about the 1861 US Civil War in border States like Missouri or West Virginia. Nobody was safe, and there were many Confederate heroes like Jesse and Frank James, William Quantrill, William Anderson, Coleman and Jim Younger, Sam Hildebrand, John Nolan, Silas Gordon, and countless others of lesser notoriety who made murder their business. That is what it is going to be because slaves and serfs have not only the motivation to kill their masters and the masters’ hired hands, but they have the means thanks to what is left of the Second Amendment and courage that has lain dormant for a century and one-half.
We all need to copy and past to our social web site to get this out to as many people as we can. we need to wake up the public, we can do more damage to this treaty by getting out the word to as many as possible. I will never give up my Second Amendment right I will fight to my end to defend my rights
How many of you are willing to stand against this tyranny? How many? I will stand against it, with everything I have. If they come to take my guns, I will give them to them bullets first. I will not back down, my children’s future freedom is at stake. I will not back down.
Let me see, there are billions of us and thousands of them. If people are so damn stupid as to bow down and hand over their weapons, then they damn deserve what they get. How many men will allow their little girls to be raped? How many men will allow their wives to be raped and the family be taken to a detention camp? Do we have any real men left in this nation? Until we all decide to fight to our death, we might as well give up now. Any man who will not fight and be willing to die for his children is not fit to live, but heaven help his children.
Be advised that the “briefing” referenced here, State Department Publication 7277, which lays out the disarmament agenda, is not only a very real statement of purpose; it was accompanied by the actual law by which it is being accomplished. Public Law 87-297, which formed the United States Disarmament Agency and began a three-phase plan to progressively disarm us and empower the UN, was signed into law by President John F. Kennedy in September of 1961. It has been amended approximately 40 times over the years, and is very much still on the books. I believe it’s in 18 U.S.C. (United States Code), I don’t remember the specific section number. But when these morons agree to share our missile defense secrets, and provide the serial numbers on the Trident missiles sold to Great Britain, and talk about reducing our nuclear deterrent forces another 50-80%, they’re not just blowing smoke; it’s the law. Short of a full-on revival, and the one-eighty in societal and governmental morality that it would bring, our security and sovereignty as a constitutional republic are toast. But if we turn from our sins and seek out the Lord in repentance, he will hear our prayers and heal our land (2 Chronicles 7:14). Spread the Word!
I hate to comment on anything that comes from A.J. He’s a fearmongering Zionist-paid shill, but I will say this much: once the internet goes down, you’ll know it’s time to lock and load!
It took the U.S. and it’s allies about six months to amass the 100,000
soldiers to do the attack on Iraq.. How long do you think it would
take the U.N. blue helmets to amass enough people to get into every
nook and cranny in the U.S.? There are several problems involved in
their theory.. And I have to disagree with the fourth poster Anon..
It is a logistical impossibility for them to do what he says. They
know that and people such as he that fear monger should really take
a lesson from history. The American people have more arms than all
of the armies of the world, and most are willing to use them. Imagine
a small country such as Afghanistan and open desert, and we cannot
say that we have won anything there! We have not gained the ground
that we had intended on gaining in that country, and we are leaving
soon. Now look at our country.. Much larger, more varied landscape
for people to work with. Let’s take the very best of the blue helmets
and put them into the 9th ward in one of our major cities. They could
not begin to win just that war, let alone route out the good ole boys
in the Southeast. The powers that be are letting these fantasy stories
out on the web so that everyone wastes their time talking about this
crap, and gets their minds working towards their agenda. In all reality
it is impossible for them and they know it, but yet they throw it out
there and let sites such as this and many others post stories to
keep people from what is really going on that they really should be
concerned about. The economy and implosion of Europe, and the rest
of the western world is what they are trying to distract you from.
The powers that be know that they really have no forces large enough
to route out one city in the U.S. of it’s arms, let alone the rest
of the country. Sure wouldn’t want to be a blue helmet!
But do pay attention to the real calamity of an economy that is
about to crumble, crop failures the likes of which we have never
seen in our lifetimes, and that our Government is trying to start
WW III. And rest assured that since we are a nation of immigrants,
even the blue helmet boys have relatives in this country too! So
they will even have second thoughts on firing on their own relatives!
Please pay attention to the real stuff that is really going down
in the here and now, and be prepared for any eventuality. Make
plans with your friends, neighbors and relatives for any possible
scenario, so that no matter what happens, you won’t panic, but will
act rationally for the good of all in your group.
Just remember to not fall for their lies and propaganda.
The U.N. was identified in the Revelation account in the Christian Greek scriptures as the 8th world power of Bible history. Well, it’s here. It won’t be around for very long but what it does while it exists is going to be terrible and hard for the majority of mankind to comprehend.
While gun confiscation is one of its goals, the destruction of organized religion globally is one of its primary intentions.
With conflict occurring globally at this time, there will be some kind of event that will take place that will carry such gravity in its affects on humanity that world leaders, collectively, will at some point express “peace and security” as foretold at 1Thessalonians 5:3, once they think they have everything under control. There won’t really be “peace and security” but they will make that statement anyway. It will be at this point that the all out attack to, once and for all,
destroy organized religion will take place.
For most, this is something hard to believe much less wrap their brains around, but it will occur. Evidence is piling up all around the world of the attacks on religion, primarily nominal “Christianity”, but they are not the only ones that get the proverbial axe once “peace and security” is declared. All false religion will be destroyed. In fact, that same Revelation account mentioned above lumps all false religion together and identifies it as “Babylon the Great” which true Bible scholars have identified as the world empire of false religion. The account tells what kind of destruction this “empire” experiences.
Those with insight who are reading this comment will log these few thoughts somewhere in their subconscious mind for later retrieval when the mud hits the fan. Hopefully, they will keep them in their conscious mind instead and try to find out what they need to do to survive what’s coming.
Words declare wars.
Words declare peace.
Words NEVER disarm…that’s your personal choice.
Switzerland drove Hitler nuts because EVERYBODY owned guns and knew how to use them. While Hitler conquered every country around them… THEY DID NOT FALL… and it wasn’t because they said “We’re Neutral” or using flowery words of Peace that scared Hitler. In short, evil leaders loves peaceniks… they are easier to kill off.
Hitler knew they were outgunned, out-maneuvered and out-played no matter what town they went to… the terrain didn’t hurt either. And thus the Swiss remained free.
You see, when men, women and children are all armed & experienced marksman… when one falls, another takes over! They’d used their small guns to get bigger ones… and so forth. The Nazis never had a chance against armed citizens! Even tanks and bombs have limited effects… they are most effective on larger targets.
Let’s use the Swiss as our inspiration to NEVER BE INTIMIDATED to surrender our ONLY SOURCE OF PROTECTION… WE OUTNUMBER THEM… NEVER FORGET THAT! We also don’t want a fight (like the Swiss)… but we’ll be happy to give them one… and make them think twice for trying. Sure, you’ll die fighting. But, doesn’t that beat dying from rape, imprisonment, humiliation, beatings, experimentations and torture? Don’t know? Read what the Jews endured in WWII.
Evil never plays fair… trickery, deceit, lies, disinformation, sleight-of-hand and bullying are their trademark. If you don’t fight/defend against that… YOU DESERVE WHATEVER YOU GET!
I think Truthzilla hit the nail on the head. Funny how that happens prior to election season. Same thing happened 4 yrs. ago. It looked highly likely that a Democrat was going to replace Bush jr. so the NRA began pushing the message 1 yr prior to the election, saying the Democrats were going to come take your guns. Then the stock market Banksters screwed the economy like hadn’t been done since the late 1920′s. It was a boon for ammo and gun manufacturers. Prices shot up with the excess demand, and ammo companies couldn’t keep up with orders. So why wouldn’t they try it again this election season?
Crazy Alert!!! Just to put this post in perspective… it’s “Live Free Or Die”! He just can’t go a week without posting some lame apocalyptic outrage that’s about to afflict us… but then never comes. At which point he just seems to forget he ever got hysterical and moves on to some new imagined “threat”. But I, my friends, am a liberal. I actually possess a memory! So let’s all go back… not far(!)… to May 13th. Here at “Before It’s News”, LFOD was good enough to warn us that the next week would be “The Week America Implodes”. The details, which may seem irrelevant since nothing occurred, had to do with the G-8 meeting being shifted to Camp David, Russkies at the Denver airport and, of course, Red Chinese on the border (in Mexico, I kid you not!). After all, what’s a good right wing (imagined) apocalypse without the Red Chinese?! These people (and the credible morons who read this tripe as gospel) live inside a soap bubble where their imaginations look just like reality. Sad that America’s come to this. Please! Ask yourself next time one of your gurus is blowing smoke up your ass: Has this guy EVER been right? [O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage… GEEZ!)
Yes and no. I use to listen to Glenn Beck(I work a different shift which prevents me from doing it right now)and yes he has been right about some things, Limbaugh, I haven’t really heard him try to predict anything, just ranting alot. Other folks I don’t listen to, Alex Jones, I believe some of the stuff he says, but not everything, you can’t believe everything one person says, you see this in media, politics etc., so why would you do the same with these guys, but I do believe some of these folks mean well. The whatever they are going to sign on the 27th between the US and UN is real, and I have read enough to know that that is not good. Did you ever wonder why Obama never mentioned anything about gun control pubicly? Or atleast I haven’t heard anything(by all mean correct me if I am wrong)Well I would imagine this is probably why. When listening to someone, anyone with enough common sense knows that they should really go and research it themselves before making a decision of whether of not something is true or not! I have done this and I have to say I am concerned.
For heavens sake don’t give in, once you do you will lose everything look at the UK. Keep your independence and freedom don’t let them get away with it.
Look what happened in vietnan home people beat the biggest military in history,its hard to be home folk in thier back yard,its goin to get bad ,ugly,no food gangs roaming streets but politicians will be comfee in their bunkers whike honest hard working americans fight for thier lives
Any apocalypse inflicted upon the people of America in the course of their fight vs. the blue-hats or whoever, is designed not for one side or the other to win, but for as many goyim as possible to die, on both sides. And we must do our utmost to ensure that not a single Jew is amongst them. Just like 9-11, in case you have forgotten. The Talmud informs us that the death of a Jew is a global tragedy, the death of a goy, their appropriate reward. And please, let’s hear no more of the silly story that they were horribly persecuted in WW2. Piles of naked dead bodies are not necessarily Jewish, despite what you have learned to believe with such fervent and unquestioning belief ; skinny people in pajamas are not necessarily Jews, people without yellow stars on their garments are highly unlikely to be Jews. More were alive and kicking after the war than before it. Nobody tattoos someone, records them on a new IBM punch-card system and then kills them. If the tattoo was a means of differentiating one race from another, then the letter “J” on the forehead would have been easier and more obvious. They were tattoo’ed because each individual was a piece of merchandise, redeemable on transfer to Palestine, in accordance with the wishes of the unseen leader and chief financer of the Zionist State, ie Rothschild. The only holocaust of WW2 was inflicted on Dresden, Koln, Hamburg, and of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, by their representatives in positions of Allied power such as Churchill, who made sure that Bomber Harris was blamed for the deliberate and calculated incineration before death of men, women, children, ( and their pets ) in Germany, when clearly he must have authorized the attacks. His mother was a Jew, and he was a Zionist. They are clearly behind all this nonsense; they have written extensively about their plans for you all in the Talmud, and confirmed them in the Protocols. Their yearly Feast of Purim celebrates the destruction of the goyim. The Talmud calls stridently for it. They march through east Jerusalem every year in a rabid mob calling out “Mavret Avrahim”, which is rather strange, coming from people who claim to be the children of that same Avraham. But who aren’t.
Webster Tarpley has the right idea. He cites the Siriza party in Greece who went from 4% support to 30% in weeks, on a platform of refusing the death by a thousand cuts promised by the austerity measures. He says that the US must do the same, it is the sine qua non of survival, ie you must create a brand-new party and get organized immediately; the willingness to use one’s public profile to facilitate this will be the shibboleth differentiating the true patriot from a traitor.
Organize or die.
Well, gun sales going up by whatever means is not a bad thing if we value our 2nd Amendment right to have an armed citizenry. So, they’ve been worried about our right to bear arms now for 50+ years. Gun Control rattles through the MSM every time some well known person gets shot. So far, the citizenry has not been intimidated by unConstitutional memorandums. The government should be afraid of us because we treasure our right to bear arms. It’s deeply entrenched in the American psyche.
“Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.” The wisdom of the serpent is to lay low until it’s pushed into a fight. Then it fights with it’s whole being. The PTB have been trying to figure out how to keep the citizenry from getting into an effective coil. Staying armed keeps us ready to coil.
We don’t have to lose perspective. “Where there is no vision, the people perish.” Those Talking Heads appear to be repeating our values but they tend to confuse and sensationalize the issues. If we’ve done our homework and know what we believe that should be sufficient Attitude.
#1NWO hatr +1 – … and, I think the new lingo is “fear porn” – really sells tickets/etc. Jones is no better than the moles of the militia movement of old (pre-internet) – all feds. Otherwise, making a law is one thing, hoping to enforce it is another. “They say” a law becomes unenforceable when 10% disobey, however it only took 3% of the US population to win the Revolutionary War. … call me Davey Crockett (Alamo~!).
“The conspiracists are referring to Department of State Publication 7277 (Disarmament Series 5) Released September 1961. The entire text can be found on this semi-official government site (run by University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)). The document is genuine, but should be taken in context.
The U.S. and the Soviet Union were looking for a formal approach to disarmament talks. They finally agreed that the U.N. could be helpful in this respect. The state department wrote this U.N. proposal which was introduced to the U.N. Quite, obviously,as the negotiations progressed, neither side decided that this particular plan was going to meet their needs, so both sides backed away from it.
Fortunately, however, the discussions from this U.N. proposal paved the way for nuclear weapon treaties in the next 20 years. The document does not (as some claim) carry the weight of law and was not a goal of any administration in the past 25 years.
The document does not specifically mention removing guns from the hands of Americans not in the military, but some might interpret the phrase “national arsenal” to include privately owned guns.” http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=183014
Above the article’s writer states, “While the memorandum outlines a broader mandate to destroy national sovereignty”
actually. all you have to do is read it. it doesn’t say that anywhere in the publication. that’s a falsehood (lie) presented by the writer intended to inflame emotion and control your personal opinion. it takes about 5-7 minutes to read it for yourself.
I don’t think this will happen. Fear mongering is their first and best weapon against the American people. Don’t buy into anything that causes you fear, or anxiety. They do this on purpose, people.
its not going to happen. it’s an old white paper. additionally, surprise, there’s nothing in it suggesting “Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns”..
I want to take a minute to put out an incredibly powerful (I think) bit of information.
There is no law other than that you agree to. No man has any right to do anything to you other than that you grant him. This is in fact a very well understood concept in law, it’s just that most of us are woefully ignorant of what law is and perhaps more importantly who we are.
The long and short is that your power is not contingent on guns. Guns are awesome but the whole “armed uprising” thing is a ruse. Think about this: if we ignored the UN/politicians/police/whoever, what could they do? Nothing. Stop feeding the beast with your attention, fear, hatred and malice. Focus not on arming yourself (that’s what they do) and focus on making the world a better place to live. If we do that then the world will be a better place to live and we won’t need the UN or congress or any of these jokers.
Remember: if a war starts stay home! If everyone refused to participate in WW2 there wouldn’t have been a WW2! We have the privilege of being in control of what kind of world we want to make for ourselves and our families. The issue comes when we’d rather withdraw from the world in fear and stop helping create it (that is what cancer cells do in your body!)than get out there and make a good future. No one said it would be easy but without a challenge it wouldn’t be any fun (yes I am implying that this will be fun : ). Relax, my fellow men, we are in control.
The United States Military will not allow this to happen! Most gun owners will not allow this to happen! The UN does not have enough men to come and get anything! I’m pretty sure they all like breathing too!
IF the UN tries this….I see millions of gunowners going to the UN HDQTs and showing them that they aren’t going to give their guns up that easily! They’ll have to take them from their cold dead hands!
The U.N./NATO Troops are being slaughter like the pigs they are in Afghanistan and Iraq. I’m still quite connected with active duty military and our boys loath the U.N. troops, can you say friendly fire.
The ones we have to watch out for are the Corporate sponsored merc’s that halliburton is pumping out. The CIA and MOSSAD will be behind many of the private security company’s producing paramilitary personnel. The secret federal government is also supplying and training our own law enforcement.
Here’s the rule of thumb for survival during war. You have a right to protect you and your family. SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTION’S LATER. ALWAYS SHOOT FOR THE HEAD AND LEGS IF THE ARE BODY ARMORED. IF YOU GET ONE IN THE LEGS, WALK UP AND SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD TO FINISH THE KILL. TAKE NO PRISONERS UNLESS FOR INTERROGATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THEY ARE AMERICAN OR NOT, IF YOUR LIFE IS BEING THREATENED, TAKE IT DOWN.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VICTIMS AND INNOCENT’S. THERE IS ONLY PREDATORS AND PREY. START THINKING AND ACTING LIKE A PREDATOR. YOU’RE GOING TO NEED TROOPS SO START RELEASING PEOPLE FROM OUR PRISON’S, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
My organization has in just five short years amassed well over 250,000 well armed able body personnel. If we can do it, so can you. Remember, we are nothing but fodder to these sub-human freaks. The U.N., SECRET U.S. Gov., Bilderberg’s, Committee of 300, Trilateral Commission, Freemason’s etc. are cowards and will never fight us one on one, they train humans to do their bidding.
If you want a breakdown on who we have targeted, this also includes all underground locations. Go to this website to get an idea of the breakdown. Remember, they are using us as their weapon’s against ourselves.
@ HereAmi: Great comment! You should be posting as OneWhoKnows instead of that other guy who does.
@ War Pony: Good point.
@ Zeus: Best advice I’ve seen so far on this subject.
How does ‘organizing’ keep from getting infiltrated? Grassroots have turned to artificial turf in record time in the past 10 years. Know what I mean? Change agents lurk with a purpose.
>Remember, they are using us as their weapon’s against ourselves.<
Google Antonio Gramsci’s Grand Plan.
Bravery and common sense even get shamed and diffused in the comment sections on this website as ignorant, foolhardy and anti-peace. Some people just don’t get that we have a right to defend ourselves when we are threatened.
Another doctored image deepens Obama mystery Filmmaker claims black man removed from 2012 campaign Facebook image
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@ G-man: of course it’s old ..but, it’s REAL and “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” George Santayana : (and Hillary is still a global muppet). Rust NEVER sleeps!
@ Eponymous “those poor bastards in Waco” (as YOU say) were murdered by an extremely satanic agenda still in play (READ: “The Report From Iron Mountain” and get back to me. Remember, hillary and AG reno were giving louis freeh his marching orders to kill 2 dozen kids – along with approximately 4 dozen others. Perhaps you missed the FLIR photos showing the machine gun nests out back taking down those fleeing from the burning building? And, perhaps you forgot the fact that the Texas Rangers found flash-bangs in the San Antonio evidence locker (even though the feds denied ever using such) and the other evidence locker (the Murrah Building in OK City) which was taken out by a manchurian candidate (who’s probably now living in Argentina after an extensive “makeover”). Answer me this, DID THEY EVER FIND THE FRONT DOOR TO THE DAVIDIANS MAIN BLDG? (Answer – HELL NO~! – it was lost even before OK City – i.e., proof the Davidians did not shoot first – out through the door!). Get you facts straight because its DA!s like you that allow this devilish agenda to prosper. Hint: stay away from the propaganda machine known as the TV.
@ #1NWO hatr: THANKS – Keep on Rocking in the FREE World~!
Interesting that assault weapons have proliferated the US household and folks are getting more tactical and learning tactical defense and shooting. Makes me think of how the US arms its enemies before it goes in and has a war or occupies the land.
Also, must credit OBAMA for the president most responsible for creating such a huge increase in gun sales. Thanks Barack!
The best gun for defense: the one you shoot best with and a reliable back-up, aka: ak47!
Sorry. SCOTUS has already ruled that Treaties do not supersede the US Constitution.
Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, “this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty,” although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement, not a “treaty” in the U.S. legal sense, and the agreement itself has never been ruled unconstitutional.
They’ll wait (YEARS) for it to get to the SCOTUS? What if Cert denied? Oh that’s right, when the blue hats come, they’ll be carrying a CITIZENS RULE BOOK and following it to the letter, how naive of me!
The UN is a joke these days, so don’t worry too much about them, they are very ineffective in every scene they have been put into, Kofi Annan is a joke, Obama is power hungry. suggesting a breach of your constitution is blatant abuse of power. The UK has disarmed its citizens over 60+ years in several amnesties, ( threats of jail time etc etc ). One can only hope that some have kept their weapons just in case. Western Europe is much the same, either confiscation or amnesty, stiffer rules for gun clubs, and carrying weapons to and from the club. We can always go back to sharp steel… we may need to.!
If you do your homework you can see that back in the day of the Iran Contra hearings with qliver north and jack brooks the contigency of government had plans for a suspension of the constitution during a period of unrest to be manufactred by a natural or non natural event.
Look at Hirricant Katrina and see for yourself how things went down.
Weapons confiscation is the goal of the UN or European Banking system-federal reserve et al. There is reason why they are privatley owned and do not have to be transparent. They will make sure the uSA is in a state of marshal law and then the UN boys will snatch the guns in the name of safety.Thats how the civil war will start. Remember that what appears to be USA troops will be mostly Russian spetnaz and UN wanna bees so it will get very messy in my opinion.
war pony – its not real. i’m a vet, many of my family members are vets or active. the whole premise that the united states military will rise up against citizens is ridiculous and vets know it. there is a small percentage of the military actively involved in war. the vast majority are in support or other fields. there jobs are pretty much identical to civilian jobs, they’re drive trucks, work in motor pools, work in administrative positions, work in healthcare, work as air traffic controllers, work as cooks etc etc.
the simple minded assertion that all these regular people will rise up and start killing their civilian family members is ludicrous and only proffered by ignorant people who have never served or know few that have. they have some strange mental image of every service member being some fricking government zombie. it’s total crap, they’re serving this country voluntarily, many help keeping you free and giving up their limbs while doing it, they don’t deserve to be slandered and libeled by ignorant morons who seem to have psychopathic tendencies.
when a guy writes “SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTION’S LATER. ALWAYS SHOOT FOR THE HEAD AND LEGS IF THE ARE BODY ARMORED. IF YOU GET ONE IN THE LEGS, WALK UP AND SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD TO FINISH THE KILL. TAKE NO PRISONERS UNLESS FOR INTERROGATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THEY ARE AMERICAN OR NOT” he’s clearly an a-hole.
it’s offensive as hell. especially when it’s posted to an article that’s nothing more than a manipulative piece of propaganda. the fact that ya’ll are living in some “survivor fantasy land” isn’t a viable excuse.
g-man: what is real is that most US military will be stranded overseas when this goes down. Hell, there are so many foreign troops on US soil, you haven’t a clue.
I never said the US Military would act on US! I’m a disabled Vet, ARMY WOFT. The white hats in the intelligence/military/NG would certainly take OUR side. But don’t discount foreign mercs/soldiers in US uniforms/blue hats, eh?
g-man, and as for those serving under ISAF, WTF!? NATO is the enemy that the central bankster mafia cartel (CBMC) uses to achieve hegemony. The CBMC also wants US to go at it again like mid 1800s. At that point, they’ll throw their commie dog in the fight and laugh their arses off so loud we can hear them from Zion.
Like I wrote over at the Marrs interview, our borders and ports are a sieve. A longshoreman friend at the Port of LA said a shipping container busted open one day. They found 5 Chinese men living in it with food and supplies. Who knows where that container was bound. All the Homeland Security is aimed at demoralizing Americans. Chasing illegals is a dumbshow. Over 50% of the students in LA are illegal.
This is to say, I can see how easy it would be for the PTB to have a standing army here without us knowing.
the assertion that our own military will rise up against us is repeated in here weekly. you can find any number of articles where the same posters paste their “kill the service member” horsecrap. it’s a constant theme. i challenge any of these frickin chickenhawks to make the same comments at their local VFW, they’ll get their heads handed to them. or come on down to my VA hospital that’s chock full of kids missing limbs, kids in wheelchairs and kids getting mental health treatment for the injuries they sustained serving this country. Most of them are national guard, they originally signed up to make a few extra dollars cause their civilian job pay barely makes ends meet. they didn’t sign up because of some staunch military ideology. they got caught in the damn crossfire. and now if they choose to read articles in here they have to read posts from a bunch of loudmouth blowhards who never served a day in their lives and don’t know squat about what they’re opining on. enough is enough.
and war pony if you’re a retired warrant officer you know damn well what i wrote is the truth. when some of these idiots go off on service members they way they do you should be standing up and straightening some of them out. this ground, “this we’ll defend”…
I’m sure you are aware that if any foreign troops are used on American civilians that it would be an act of Treason and Obama, Congress, Senate and Judiciary would all be meeting with the special firing squad that has been hand-picked for every President!
If martial Law is declared…the same scenario will happen!
No… military will not be firing upon American citizens and confiscating their weapons!
Military personel, veterans, Militia all take oaths to uphold the Constitution…the 2nd amendment is safe!
The Military has already informed troops…that if an order to shoot civilians who are not attacking a military installation or military personel is given by any commanding officer…the soldiers are to shoot the CO and any who are standing close to them. if any soldier is willing to carry out that order…they are to shoot them also!
Military who are over in other countries will be sent back home to defend their mother land….it wouldn’t take very long for most to be here!
Contingencies for such things have been put into place already if this is what needs to go down.
This story is just fear-mongering…it just ain’t gonna happen!!
Isn’t it about time the American people woke up and realized that we have a cabal of traitorous cowards occupying our government? As a vet I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and Domestic – I took it seriously then and still do now! This same oath was supposedly taken by our elected officials – if their word isn’t worth spit then WE the people need to throw the traitors out – period! The American people will not stand for a return to Nazism or allow everything all vets and our forefathers fought and died for! WE will not bow down to tyranny nor follow blindly to surrender out country to the UN! Our sovereignty – our country and our nation was born out of a desire to be free of tyranny and authoritarian rule. Any who would forsake these inalienable rights and freedoms deserves to be treated as the traitor they are! When we WE wake up and take our country back before the sheeple follow blindly and give in and give up! I will honor the oath I took and defend to my death the freedoms guaranteed me by all those who came before – I WILL NOT dishonor their sacrifice nor their stand to defend this country. All those in government need to be removed from office and replaced by those who believe in this country and all it stands for – the majority of those there now have NO HONOR – they are cheap suits sold out to fascism and the UN
The UN can pass anything that they want. It will not be a law that afffects Americans unless the Senate passes a bill approving it. That won’t happen since they like being in Congress.
The ones shot in the Katrina footage….looters will always be shot!
You’re so full of BS…believe propaganda from idiots who know nothing! Massive Psy-ops BS….are you freakin’ for real? Talk about dumb-downed! You believe just about anything won’t you? There is no military personel or National Guard who will follow those orders…it is illegal to do so! Read up on the Nuremburg trials! I’m sure they don’t want to be charged for doing something so stupid as to follow that order! It goes against the second amendment!
Guess you didn’t read the post above of mine did you? Stop living in the fantasy, conspiracy world and come out for some air! it might clear the cobwebs from your headspace!
Not all the citizenry are fat stupid and lazy! There are lots of patriots and lots of veterans and lots of militia and lots of deerhunters and lots of military! the sale of 10 million guns in three months should give you a clue as to how many guns are out there and no one is going to pick up all of them! Those are only the documented ones!!
If you think any of the gangs or bikers are going to give up their weapons…think again!
One thing I really wish….that all of you who wish to post as anonymous would actually find a name to post under…it would be so much easier to differentiate who the hell who is who!
How about anon1, Anon2, anon3…..even that would freaking work better!
g-man: what I, I, I, was saying was REAL is that the push for gun registration/confiscation in the US has always been high on the CBMC’s list and goes way back.
Perhaps you missed the infamous “Twenty-Nine Palms Survey” where the military actually asked our troops if they would be willing to shoot at Citizens. Most, assuredly, answered “no’ but you can’t escape the fact that it has entered the borg-D.C. mindset.
I’m glad you have so much faith in the military/militia/Citizenry – I do too. Being from a military family that has fought for this Country in every conflict since Jamestown, and having been in the lead crew that shut down the Blood Games at the Freemen Standoff in Montana in ’96, I am more than fully aware of what feds will do – like the Koolaid in their Coffee that prompted them to want to protect the kids by killing them like at Waco. You could – had you been to the access identification checkpoint utside the Clark’s ranch – see them seething with the desire to kill.
Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir.
g-man: And, if you are so assured that “acts of Treason … would all be meeting with the special firing squad” then please do explain to me how and why the Federal Reserve Bank: is in essence running the world (TARP, QE 1-?; Maiden Lane LLP I-?, Operation Twist 1-?); got a monopoly on our money supply and could decide which companies would prosper (get loans) and which would not; beget monopoly on all other facets of commerce (finance, news/media, pharmaceuticals, military contractors; black market (drug & human trafficking) & NATO; and can OUTRIGHT VIOLATE the Constitution DAILY as only Congress shall coin money and declare the value thereof?
war pony – sorry buddy you’re confusing me with another posters comments, i suggest you re-read and address your comments to them; specifically; “Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir.” & “if you are so assured that “acts of Treason … would all be meeting with the special firing squad”
none of that has anything to do with the subject in my posts..
g-man – YOU are PARTIALLY CORRECT/I Apologize – my Friday, July 20, 2012 9:18 post should have been aimed at CW. However, your July 19, 2012 4:00 post starts with my name and then quotes others. Please change posters’ names when YOU quote others (and make it appear as if those were my thoughts when they aren’t). The “Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir” is certainly applicable to YOU in that instance.
And, otherwise, You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in your “Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:00″ post. Ditto on the “This We Will Defend”
We’re singing the same tune just being in this comment section, though some are wandering off-key just a bit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when it comes to singing the same song, everyone needs to agree with how the tune goes. Harmony and impromptu are permitted!
We all agree that the Constitution has served us well when checks and balances still served The People’s interests rather than Special interests. So, we don’t plan on throwing that document out anytime soon.
We mainly know that we reject the cacophony from the Hill, the MSM, Wall Street and any of the other Bigs. They are out of tune with the Constitution.
Seriously, there is too much at stake — our babies and grandbabies, mainly. We want to see them safely into the future. So we have to be smart, know what we believe and get ourselves in tune. Everyone knows something, everyone has something to offer — a little at a time, lest we be presumptuous hurting our own selves and others.
I see leadership here in this forum. Leaders are made not born. The vision is more important than being the boss. Yet bosses are greatly needed! Rigid postures need to be sacrificed on the altar of spiritual growth. Humility precedes genius.
What we need is people who specialize in the impossible. This is a stand against tyranny– an old fight. But the time we’re in is a new frontier and the learning curve is huge. God be with us all!
@ War Pony: You’re comment about the military questionaire was dead on. Once the government realized they couldn’t count on our own military to do their dirty work for them, that’s when they started bringing over U.N. troops to train here.
Another little known fact: during the last census, all the census takers were required to carry a hand held GPS reader with them and take GPS readings at every door they came to, regardless of whether anyone was home or not. I know this to be absolutely true, because I asked a friend of mine who worked for them, and he told me it was. The reason for this? Because all the foreign troops based here are mainly from Russia, germany, etc., and most can’t read or write English. But they all understand GPS readings. Keep up the good fight!
Fact or Fiction doesn’t matter to me in this BIN forum. It makes me think things through. The military trains their people with scenarios which is “possibility” training. If the PTB’s goal is fearmongering, then it has backfired already.
It’s like training a skittish horse. The horse’s problem is a lack of depth perception. So you start with small jumps and gradually build to higher and wider depth perception training.
If you’re not learning anything from anybody else, then just stay small.
The Gun Control Drums are beating already from the Aurora Batman Massacre.
Police Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) in the Batman movie now showing in theaters: “You’re a detective now. For you there are no more coincidences.”
This maybe of interest to you all….goes to show that the Military is not behind Obama and they will not fire upon American citizens nor take their guns away!!
American’s, and the majority of the world’s human population, don’t know what real PEACE is. Peace? Peace? There is no peace, just as the prophets foretold! Read the book of Deuteronomy. In it the blessings of doing the will of God and the consequences of not doing the will of God are desrcribed. America and American’s do not do the will of the God of the prophets. Neither do those who support and make up the United Nations. The consequences are being meted out!
“HD, we already have illegal aliens in the military. We have Muslims and Communists and Evangelicals too.
How do you feel about amnesty for illegals if they have served our country in combat?”
The same way I feel about releasing prisoners and giving them .50 machine guns. What’s American about breaking it’s laws, and why would giving them weapons make that better?
For all you MORANS who keep saying it wont happen here, you did see the Katrina footage right? IT ALREADY HAS HAPPENED HERE!!!!THEY ALREADY DID IT!!!! You remember Ruby Ridge, WACO, OKLAHOMA CITY, 911, Every war of the 20th and 21st century based on lie after lie after lie with willing moles in the media and cover up after cover up.!!! STOP living in denial. Sh_t is happening. This ain’t your government. Calling real documents and their stated plans fear porn is some kind of weird psycho-babble cognitive dissonance. It wont be UN Blue hats, it will be brain washed dumb down gung ho roided out 21 year old National Guard ect. They’ll follow their orders period! They’ll be pre-conditioned and under a massive psyop, ready to kill just like Katrina. However I don’t think it will be one big massive confiscation, it will be incremental. Unless they unleash a series of False Flags, a Bank Holiday or even any natural disaster they can exploit. Look around at your fellow citizenry, People are f_cked up, the general population of America is fat, stupid and passive. They are ripe for the picking. They will be more than willing to do whatever they’re told by their loving government, to get their food stamps, free healthcare and welfare. They’ll only have to deal with the holdouts and Patriots. Cue Batman Music……..
Any Amendment of rights which follows the first Amendment is thus an extension, and rest upon the foundation of that first Amendment …
And that foundation is as unstable as quicksand …
I say that because just as rights of the first amendment are not empowered by any written law … the rights to bear arms … is simply a privilege that could have and has been taken away at any given time …
And furthermore the right to bear arms in this second amendment statement … seems to have actually applied to the people of a well regulated Militia … and not all people …
Whenever the word “the” is used … it is specifically referring to a particular person, place, group or thing … trickery in words have been the unjust and wicked strongest points …relying on the mainstream’s good heartedness, and their Positive discerning to the sinister mind’s original evil heartedness and actual negative meaning …
So when they of the well militia people, march to take away the mainstream people arms … they will feel and operate well within their rights … and rather this is a disarmament of a Violent Nation … or wrongful infringement of privileges .. is yet to be argued and or proven …
Now rather a people will peacefully surrender their weapons … or there be some blood shed … will be left to the choices made by the mainstream people … but the mainstream must realize that the amendment and enforcing laws they have always so diligently stood for … has never been on their side … the first amendment must be changed, and the Congress must make rightful laws backing any and all given rights …
Now if you were to ask me if I was for or against the bearing of arms … I would have to say YES and NO …
Yes because the binding of one man of one right … is the doorway to the binding of all men of all rights …
Yet I’d rather see no armory .. than one armory in the hands of one negative conscious mind governed by prejudice of any sort …
I would rather see no armory … than one armory in the hands of an unstable or easily negatively influenced conscious mind … or minds finding pleasure in killing for sport of any kind …
So considering these days and times and the state of evil negativity many minds are in … I would rather see no armory …
First of I agree our govenment has been given far to much power,if people would read a little more they would know that our founding fathers want govrnment to stay small,becuase it saw how it effected england in that era,second all the laws that are passed unaware to the citizens are made to bolster these old laws so they can fill any loop hole that may appear,also the sheeple of America keep complaining about what the gov should have done or how they were not doing the right things to protect us,this is intentional they want yoy to give them the ability to take more and more of your rights,and you give them the ammunition to do so we are suppose to fight tyrinny not feed it .
I have also read that the Obama admin has passed laws allowing law enforcement to arrest detain and hold AMERICANS indefinately without due process without even being charged with a crime,just look at our courts and jails to know this some of these people have been sitting in county jails for a couple of years awaiting trial for things that are completely idiotic. there is so much more to all of this and it is all linked one way or another a domino or butterfly effect.
It’s comin’ folks. It sounds all conspiracy-like and goofy now, but read about Nazi Germany. Ask people who went thru Katrina. These whack jobs aren’t fooling around. They believe that their time has come to make their move.javascript:grin(‘:mad:’)
Now we know why the DHS has purchased all of those bullets. “It’s all coming down”. Conspiracy theory? What happens now…? Please share.
Where is the UN going to get that many people with the balls to take on me and 100,000,000 other armed Americans?
100,000,001…
make that 100,000,002
Recommended purchases: an M1A1 semi-auto M14 with a thousand rounds & an AK47 semi-auto w/a thousand rounds.
For up close protection NOTHING beats a M1911 also with a thousand rounds.
Kind of like auto Insurance,..
HOPE you never need it, BUT boy it sure is nice when you get into an accident.
JUST say’n
they will get your guns…U.N. troops will descend on every burg and burrough. every street every peaceful country road. They’ll shoot your pregnant wife and dog hold an AR to your head and demand every weapon you possess. And you’ll comply. Despite the lies to the contrary they have the records they require to identify all 80 million of us. Have no doubt that is what they seek, and have willing anxious downright giddy american citizens ready to assist them. The senate and house and every state house have large numbers of members ready to complete the coup. County and city governments and school boards and on and on….We have allowed it ………it is here… it is real. I fear no man, but i fear this government. but most of all i fear that God will allow us to suffer through it because we deserve it. Bury what arms and ammunition you can, keep self defense firearms handy express your love to your family……But be prepared to kiss your ass goodby….
no they won’t.
I should have said the UN or whoever will not get far in their task.
Google Pravda English 11-07-2012 They explain how we gave up our freedom without a whimper, and how Putin advised BHO that socialism doesn’t work…We say we will fight to keep our weapons, but big brother has ways to make you give them up and they will use them. Our last line of defense is the 10th Amendment…get your states to nullify federal over-reach. Look up the “10th Amendment Center” for help
I bet if they show up in the US and word gets around that they are confiscating guns, that anytime there is the opportunity, people will be hacking at them. If patriots can take out two or three for every patriot killed it won’t take long.
Now nobody attacks the government and their supporters because there is too much to lose. People just have the attitude that “if they come for me then I will fight, but it is not worth starting the fight myself”. But that will quickly change and there will be millions of independent actions against targets of opportunity. There will be no organization; just angry individuals, acting alone or in small groups, getting revenge. It will be like Iraq X 100,000.
If you want to understand what it will be like, read about the 1861 US Civil War in border States like Missouri or West Virginia. Nobody was safe, and there were many Confederate heroes like Jesse and Frank James, William Quantrill, William Anderson, Coleman and Jim Younger, Sam Hildebrand, John Nolan, Silas Gordon, and countless others of lesser notoriety who made murder their business. That is what it is going to be because slaves and serfs have not only the motivation to kill their masters and the masters’ hired hands, but they have the means thanks to what is left of the Second Amendment and courage that has lain dormant for a century and one-half.
We all need to copy and past to our social web site to get this out to as many people as we can. we need to wake up the public, we can do more damage to this treaty by getting out the word to as many as possible. I will never give up my Second Amendment right I will fight to my end to defend my rights
And this is the spark that finally starts a Civil War. Good on them.
How many of you are willing to stand against this tyranny? How many? I will stand against it, with everything I have. If they come to take my guns, I will give them to them bullets first. I will not back down, my children’s future freedom is at stake. I will not back down.
If they sign this treaty, they are committing this country to civil war. And I for one will be defending out constitutional rights.
I hate to be ‘that guy’ but this just seems way to hard to believe.
UN Troops on American soil, shooting people like dogs in the street, taking guns, etc.
Just not buying it.
It doesn’t make any difference how many treaties or agreements our idiot in chief signs. None are legal or enforceable until ratified by the senate.
Bring it on
Ok bring out all your troops.The cities will be a ush over.Rural America they will not win.
Let me see, there are billions of us and thousands of them. If people are so damn stupid as to bow down and hand over their weapons, then they damn deserve what they get. How many men will allow their little girls to be raped? How many men will allow their wives to be raped and the family be taken to a detention camp? Do we have any real men left in this nation? Until we all decide to fight to our death, we might as well give up now. Any man who will not fight and be willing to die for his children is not fit to live, but heaven help his children.
Be advised that the “briefing” referenced here, State Department Publication 7277, which lays out the disarmament agenda, is not only a very real statement of purpose; it was accompanied by the actual law by which it is being accomplished. Public Law 87-297, which formed the United States Disarmament Agency and began a three-phase plan to progressively disarm us and empower the UN, was signed into law by President John F. Kennedy in September of 1961. It has been amended approximately 40 times over the years, and is very much still on the books. I believe it’s in 18 U.S.C. (United States Code), I don’t remember the specific section number. But when these morons agree to share our missile defense secrets, and provide the serial numbers on the Trident missiles sold to Great Britain, and talk about reducing our nuclear deterrent forces another 50-80%, they’re not just blowing smoke; it’s the law. Short of a full-on revival, and the one-eighty in societal and governmental morality that it would bring, our security and sovereignty as a constitutional republic are toast. But if we turn from our sins and seek out the Lord in repentance, he will hear our prayers and heal our land (2 Chronicles 7:14). Spread the Word!
Patriots got to strike back with new legislation making it illegal for anyone to hold a government job if they have, or had, two passports.
This would no doubt remove some Supreme Court Judges and about 70% of the quisling traitorous scum in government today.
I hate to comment on anything that comes from A.J. He’s a fearmongering Zionist-paid shill, but I will say this much: once the internet goes down, you’ll know it’s time to lock and load!
It took the U.S. and it’s allies about six months to amass the 100,000
soldiers to do the attack on Iraq.. How long do you think it would
take the U.N. blue helmets to amass enough people to get into every
nook and cranny in the U.S.? There are several problems involved in
their theory.. And I have to disagree with the fourth poster Anon..
It is a logistical impossibility for them to do what he says. They
know that and people such as he that fear monger should really take
a lesson from history. The American people have more arms than all
of the armies of the world, and most are willing to use them. Imagine
a small country such as Afghanistan and open desert, and we cannot
say that we have won anything there! We have not gained the ground
that we had intended on gaining in that country, and we are leaving
soon. Now look at our country.. Much larger, more varied landscape
for people to work with. Let’s take the very best of the blue helmets
and put them into the 9th ward in one of our major cities. They could
not begin to win just that war, let alone route out the good ole boys
in the Southeast. The powers that be are letting these fantasy stories
out on the web so that everyone wastes their time talking about this
crap, and gets their minds working towards their agenda. In all reality
it is impossible for them and they know it, but yet they throw it out
there and let sites such as this and many others post stories to
keep people from what is really going on that they really should be
concerned about. The economy and implosion of Europe, and the rest
of the western world is what they are trying to distract you from.
The powers that be know that they really have no forces large enough
to route out one city in the U.S. of it’s arms, let alone the rest
of the country. Sure wouldn’t want to be a blue helmet!
But do pay attention to the real calamity of an economy that is
about to crumble, crop failures the likes of which we have never
seen in our lifetimes, and that our Government is trying to start
WW III. And rest assured that since we are a nation of immigrants,
even the blue helmet boys have relatives in this country too! So
they will even have second thoughts on firing on their own relatives!
Please pay attention to the real stuff that is really going down
in the here and now, and be prepared for any eventuality. Make
plans with your friends, neighbors and relatives for any possible
scenario, so that no matter what happens, you won’t panic, but will
act rationally for the good of all in your group.
Just remember to not fall for their lies and propaganda.
The U.N. was identified in the Revelation account in the Christian Greek scriptures as the 8th world power of Bible history. Well, it’s here. It won’t be around for very long but what it does while it exists is going to be terrible and hard for the majority of mankind to comprehend.
While gun confiscation is one of its goals, the destruction of organized religion globally is one of its primary intentions.
With conflict occurring globally at this time, there will be some kind of event that will take place that will carry such gravity in its affects on humanity that world leaders, collectively, will at some point express “peace and security” as foretold at 1Thessalonians 5:3, once they think they have everything under control. There won’t really be “peace and security” but they will make that statement anyway. It will be at this point that the all out attack to, once and for all,
destroy organized religion will take place.
For most, this is something hard to believe much less wrap their brains around, but it will occur. Evidence is piling up all around the world of the attacks on religion, primarily nominal “Christianity”, but they are not the only ones that get the proverbial axe once “peace and security” is declared. All false religion will be destroyed. In fact, that same Revelation account mentioned above lumps all false religion together and identifies it as “Babylon the Great” which true Bible scholars have identified as the world empire of false religion. The account tells what kind of destruction this “empire” experiences.
Those with insight who are reading this comment will log these few thoughts somewhere in their subconscious mind for later retrieval when the mud hits the fan. Hopefully, they will keep them in their conscious mind instead and try to find out what they need to do to survive what’s coming.
What I want to know is, who will trade their guns for food if they are starving. I believe thats the ‘real’ plan.
Every time one of these stories hits; gun sales increase. It makes me wonder if indeed it is the gun manufacturers who plant the story.
Words declare wars.
Words declare peace.
Words NEVER disarm…that’s your personal choice.
Switzerland drove Hitler nuts because EVERYBODY owned guns and knew how to use them. While Hitler conquered every country around them… THEY DID NOT FALL… and it wasn’t because they said “We’re Neutral” or using flowery words of Peace that scared Hitler. In short, evil leaders loves peaceniks… they are easier to kill off.
Hitler knew they were outgunned, out-maneuvered and out-played no matter what town they went to… the terrain didn’t hurt either. And thus the Swiss remained free.
You see, when men, women and children are all armed & experienced marksman… when one falls, another takes over! They’d used their small guns to get bigger ones… and so forth. The Nazis never had a chance against armed citizens! Even tanks and bombs have limited effects… they are most effective on larger targets.
Let’s use the Swiss as our inspiration to NEVER BE INTIMIDATED to surrender our ONLY SOURCE OF PROTECTION… WE OUTNUMBER THEM… NEVER FORGET THAT! We also don’t want a fight (like the Swiss)… but we’ll be happy to give them one… and make them think twice for trying. Sure, you’ll die fighting. But, doesn’t that beat dying from rape, imprisonment, humiliation, beatings, experimentations and torture? Don’t know? Read what the Jews endured in WWII.
Evil never plays fair… trickery, deceit, lies, disinformation, sleight-of-hand and bullying are their trademark. If you don’t fight/defend against that… YOU DESERVE WHATEVER YOU GET!
Let them come.
Just remember, when they come to take the guns. Give them the bullets first.
Its better to die standing than to live on our knees.
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http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2404/412/Sheriff_Joe_Video_ALL_5:_Government_Employee_Calls_Cops_On_Cold_Case_Posse_In_Hawaii.html
I think Truthzilla hit the nail on the head. Funny how that happens prior to election season. Same thing happened 4 yrs. ago. It looked highly likely that a Democrat was going to replace Bush jr. so the NRA began pushing the message 1 yr prior to the election, saying the Democrats were going to come take your guns. Then the stock market Banksters screwed the economy like hadn’t been done since the late 1920′s. It was a boon for ammo and gun manufacturers. Prices shot up with the excess demand, and ammo companies couldn’t keep up with orders. So why wouldn’t they try it again this election season?
Crazy Alert!!! Just to put this post in perspective… it’s “Live Free Or Die”! He just can’t go a week without posting some lame apocalyptic outrage that’s about to afflict us… but then never comes. At which point he just seems to forget he ever got hysterical and moves on to some new imagined “threat”. But I, my friends, am a liberal. I actually possess a memory! So let’s all go back… not far(!)… to May 13th. Here at “Before It’s News”, LFOD was good enough to warn us that the next week would be “The Week America Implodes”. The details, which may seem irrelevant since nothing occurred, had to do with the G-8 meeting being shifted to Camp David, Russkies at the Denver airport and, of course, Red Chinese on the border (in Mexico, I kid you not!). After all, what’s a good right wing (imagined) apocalypse without the Red Chinese?! These people (and the credible morons who read this tripe as gospel) live inside a soap bubble where their imaginations look just like reality. Sad that America’s come to this. Please! Ask yourself next time one of your gurus is blowing smoke up your ass: Has this guy EVER been right? [O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage… GEEZ!)
Yes and no. I use to listen to Glenn Beck(I work a different shift which prevents me from doing it right now)and yes he has been right about some things, Limbaugh, I haven’t really heard him try to predict anything, just ranting alot. Other folks I don’t listen to, Alex Jones, I believe some of the stuff he says, but not everything, you can’t believe everything one person says, you see this in media, politics etc., so why would you do the same with these guys, but I do believe some of these folks mean well. The whatever they are going to sign on the 27th between the US and UN is real, and I have read enough to know that that is not good. Did you ever wonder why Obama never mentioned anything about gun control pubicly? Or atleast I haven’t heard anything(by all mean correct me if I am wrong)Well I would imagine this is probably why. When listening to someone, anyone with enough common sense knows that they should really go and research it themselves before making a decision of whether of not something is true or not! I have done this and I have to say I am concerned.
For heavens sake don’t give in, once you do you will lose everything look at the UK. Keep your independence and freedom don’t let them get away with it.
Look what happened in vietnan home people beat the biggest military in history,its hard to be home folk in thier back yard,its goin to get bad ,ugly,no food gangs roaming streets but politicians will be comfee in their bunkers whike honest hard working americans fight for thier lives
Those who live by the gun, will die by the gun.
Waco, anyone?
Jesus is all you need. Too bad those poor bastards in Waco never learned that.
Any apocalypse inflicted upon the people of America in the course of their fight vs. the blue-hats or whoever, is designed not for one side or the other to win, but for as many goyim as possible to die, on both sides. And we must do our utmost to ensure that not a single Jew is amongst them. Just like 9-11, in case you have forgotten. The Talmud informs us that the death of a Jew is a global tragedy, the death of a goy, their appropriate reward. And please, let’s hear no more of the silly story that they were horribly persecuted in WW2. Piles of naked dead bodies are not necessarily Jewish, despite what you have learned to believe with such fervent and unquestioning belief ; skinny people in pajamas are not necessarily Jews, people without yellow stars on their garments are highly unlikely to be Jews. More were alive and kicking after the war than before it. Nobody tattoos someone, records them on a new IBM punch-card system and then kills them. If the tattoo was a means of differentiating one race from another, then the letter “J” on the forehead would have been easier and more obvious. They were tattoo’ed because each individual was a piece of merchandise, redeemable on transfer to Palestine, in accordance with the wishes of the unseen leader and chief financer of the Zionist State, ie Rothschild. The only holocaust of WW2 was inflicted on Dresden, Koln, Hamburg, and of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, by their representatives in positions of Allied power such as Churchill, who made sure that Bomber Harris was blamed for the deliberate and calculated incineration before death of men, women, children, ( and their pets ) in Germany, when clearly he must have authorized the attacks. His mother was a Jew, and he was a Zionist. They are clearly behind all this nonsense; they have written extensively about their plans for you all in the Talmud, and confirmed them in the Protocols. Their yearly Feast of Purim celebrates the destruction of the goyim. The Talmud calls stridently for it. They march through east Jerusalem every year in a rabid mob calling out “Mavret Avrahim”, which is rather strange, coming from people who claim to be the children of that same Avraham. But who aren’t.
Webster Tarpley has the right idea. He cites the Siriza party in Greece who went from 4% support to 30% in weeks, on a platform of refusing the death by a thousand cuts promised by the austerity measures. He says that the US must do the same, it is the sine qua non of survival, ie you must create a brand-new party and get organized immediately; the willingness to use one’s public profile to facilitate this will be the shibboleth differentiating the true patriot from a traitor.
Organize or die.
Well, gun sales going up by whatever means is not a bad thing if we value our 2nd Amendment right to have an armed citizenry. So, they’ve been worried about our right to bear arms now for 50+ years. Gun Control rattles through the MSM every time some well known person gets shot. So far, the citizenry has not been intimidated by unConstitutional memorandums. The government should be afraid of us because we treasure our right to bear arms. It’s deeply entrenched in the American psyche.
“Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.” The wisdom of the serpent is to lay low until it’s pushed into a fight. Then it fights with it’s whole being. The PTB have been trying to figure out how to keep the citizenry from getting into an effective coil. Staying armed keeps us ready to coil.
We don’t have to lose perspective. “Where there is no vision, the people perish.” Those Talking Heads appear to be repeating our values but they tend to confuse and sensationalize the issues. If we’ve done our homework and know what we believe that should be sufficient Attitude.
#1NWO hatr +1 – … and, I think the new lingo is “fear porn” – really sells tickets/etc. Jones is no better than the moles of the militia movement of old (pre-internet) – all feds. Otherwise, making a law is one thing, hoping to enforce it is another. “They say” a law becomes unenforceable when 10% disobey, however it only took 3% of the US population to win the Revolutionary War. … call me Davey Crockett (Alamo~!).
this type of talk has been going on for years
and while the int’l treaty isn’t the type of thing we should sign onto I can’t see “troops” suddenly killing citizens who do not turn in their guns
Good Lord….it’s like – about 37 different crises / steps would have to be skipped before you go to a situation like that….
Context Counts
“The conspiracists are referring to Department of State Publication 7277 (Disarmament Series 5) Released September 1961. The entire text can be found on this semi-official government site (run by University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)). The document is genuine, but should be taken in context.
The U.S. and the Soviet Union were looking for a formal approach to disarmament talks. They finally agreed that the U.N. could be helpful in this respect. The state department wrote this U.N. proposal which was introduced to the U.N. Quite, obviously,as the negotiations progressed, neither side decided that this particular plan was going to meet their needs, so both sides backed away from it.
Fortunately, however, the discussions from this U.N. proposal paved the way for nuclear weapon treaties in the next 20 years. The document does not (as some claim) carry the weight of law and was not a goal of any administration in the past 25 years.
The document does not specifically mention removing guns from the hands of Americans not in the military, but some might interpret the phrase “national arsenal” to include privately owned guns.”
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=183014
Context Counts II
Above the article’s writer states, “While the memorandum outlines a broader mandate to destroy national sovereignty”
actually. all you have to do is read it. it doesn’t say that anywhere in the publication. that’s a falsehood (lie) presented by the writer intended to inflame emotion and control your personal opinion. it takes about 5-7 minutes to read it for yourself.
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html
I don’t think this will happen. Fear mongering is their first and best weapon against the American people. Don’t buy into anything that causes you fear, or anxiety. They do this on purpose, people.
its not going to happen. it’s an old white paper. additionally, surprise, there’s nothing in it suggesting “Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns”..
brains are for more than hats..
Hi everyone,
I want to take a minute to put out an incredibly powerful (I think) bit of information.
There is no law other than that you agree to. No man has any right to do anything to you other than that you grant him. This is in fact a very well understood concept in law, it’s just that most of us are woefully ignorant of what law is and perhaps more importantly who we are.
Being combative or belligerent is you waiving your right to use your right to contract and worse it is you creating inequity. You can read more here: http://thepowercave.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blog-post.html
The long and short is that your power is not contingent on guns. Guns are awesome but the whole “armed uprising” thing is a ruse. Think about this: if we ignored the UN/politicians/police/whoever, what could they do? Nothing. Stop feeding the beast with your attention, fear, hatred and malice. Focus not on arming yourself (that’s what they do) and focus on making the world a better place to live. If we do that then the world will be a better place to live and we won’t need the UN or congress or any of these jokers.
Remember: if a war starts stay home! If everyone refused to participate in WW2 there wouldn’t have been a WW2! We have the privilege of being in control of what kind of world we want to make for ourselves and our families. The issue comes when we’d rather withdraw from the world in fear and stop helping create it (that is what cancer cells do in your body!)than get out there and make a good future. No one said it would be easy but without a challenge it wouldn’t be any fun (yes I am implying that this will be fun : ). Relax, my fellow men, we are in control.
Hi, Anonymous.
Thank you for your words of truth, wisdom and knowledge. Too little of these going around these days.
All Americans are in serious danger, period
Sorry guys and gals….
The United States Military will not allow this to happen! Most gun owners will not allow this to happen! The UN does not have enough men to come and get anything! I’m pretty sure they all like breathing too!
IF the UN tries this….I see millions of gunowners going to the UN HDQTs and showing them that they aren’t going to give their guns up that easily! They’ll have to take them from their cold dead hands!
The U.N./NATO Troops are being slaughter like the pigs they are in Afghanistan and Iraq. I’m still quite connected with active duty military and our boys loath the U.N. troops, can you say friendly fire.
The ones we have to watch out for are the Corporate sponsored merc’s that halliburton is pumping out. The CIA and MOSSAD will be behind many of the private security company’s producing paramilitary personnel. The secret federal government is also supplying and training our own law enforcement.
Here’s the rule of thumb for survival during war. You have a right to protect you and your family. SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTION’S LATER. ALWAYS SHOOT FOR THE HEAD AND LEGS IF THE ARE BODY ARMORED. IF YOU GET ONE IN THE LEGS, WALK UP AND SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD TO FINISH THE KILL. TAKE NO PRISONERS UNLESS FOR INTERROGATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THEY ARE AMERICAN OR NOT, IF YOUR LIFE IS BEING THREATENED, TAKE IT DOWN.
ONCE YOU’VE KILLED THEM TAKE THERE WEAPONS AND SUPPLIES.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VICTIMS AND INNOCENT’S. THERE IS ONLY PREDATORS AND PREY. START THINKING AND ACTING LIKE A PREDATOR. YOU’RE GOING TO NEED TROOPS SO START RELEASING PEOPLE FROM OUR PRISON’S, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
My organization has in just five short years amassed well over 250,000 well armed able body personnel. If we can do it, so can you. Remember, we are nothing but fodder to these sub-human freaks. The U.N., SECRET U.S. Gov., Bilderberg’s, Committee of 300, Trilateral Commission, Freemason’s etc. are cowards and will never fight us one on one, they train humans to do their bidding.
If you want a breakdown on who we have targeted, this also includes all underground locations. Go to this website to get an idea of the breakdown. Remember, they are using us as their weapon’s against ourselves.
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/the-illuminati-elites-secret-covevant-organization-and-structure/
Until Obama replaces the military with illegal aliens, muslims, and communists- this will not fly. But when that does happen, lock and load.
@ HereAmi: Great comment! You should be posting as OneWhoKnows instead of that other guy who does.
@ War Pony: Good point.
@ Zeus: Best advice I’ve seen so far on this subject.
More fear porn over international gun tracking conflated to total armageddon. This place has lost its grip on reality.
How does ‘organizing’ keep from getting infiltrated? Grassroots have turned to artificial turf in record time in the past 10 years. Know what I mean? Change agents lurk with a purpose.
>Remember, they are using us as their weapon’s against ourselves.<
Google Antonio Gramsci’s Grand Plan.
Bravery and common sense even get shamed and diffused in the comment sections on this website as ignorant, foolhardy and anti-peace. Some people just don’t get that we have a right to defend ourselves when we are threatened.
HD, we already have illegal aliens in the military. We have Muslims and Communists and Evangelicals too.
How do you feel about amnesty for illegals if they have served our country in combat?
Love one another! Ok US govt and DHS, it’s your turn! Now let’s all play ‘follow the leader’…
If this wasn’t bad enough, John Moore has just raised his Nibiru Alert Level to 3.8 due to Canary Islands East Coast concerns…
/story/2408/671/Alert_Level_3.8:_Canary_Islands_East_Coast_Risk_-_The_John_Moore_Show_7-18-2012.html
Let’s all hope both of these stories are totally and completely unfounded ‘rumors’. Peace!
See obama birth certificate forgery. The skin is falling off the onion.
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/another-doctored-image-deepens-obama-mystery-filmmaker-claims-black-man-removed-from-2012-campaign-facebook-image/
Another doctored image deepens Obama mystery Filmmaker claims black man removed from 2012 campaign Facebook image
A professional graphic artist who examined the 1973 photo believes the image of Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, was airbrushed into the scene to cover up an African-American man who was standing next to Obama at the Honolulu airport.
zeus you’re an idiot.
@ G-man: of course it’s old ..but, it’s REAL and “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” George Santayana : (and Hillary is still a global muppet). Rust NEVER sleeps!
@ Eponymous “those poor bastards in Waco” (as YOU say) were murdered by an extremely satanic agenda still in play (READ: “The Report From Iron Mountain” and get back to me. Remember, hillary and AG reno were giving louis freeh his marching orders to kill 2 dozen kids – along with approximately 4 dozen others. Perhaps you missed the FLIR photos showing the machine gun nests out back taking down those fleeing from the burning building? And, perhaps you forgot the fact that the Texas Rangers found flash-bangs in the San Antonio evidence locker (even though the feds denied ever using such) and the other evidence locker (the Murrah Building in OK City) which was taken out by a manchurian candidate (who’s probably now living in Argentina after an extensive “makeover”). Answer me this, DID THEY EVER FIND THE FRONT DOOR TO THE DAVIDIANS MAIN BLDG? (Answer – HELL NO~! – it was lost even before OK City – i.e., proof the Davidians did not shoot first – out through the door!). Get you facts straight because its DA!s like you that allow this devilish agenda to prosper. Hint: stay away from the propaganda machine known as the TV.
@ #1NWO hatr: THANKS – Keep on Rocking in the FREE World~!
Interesting that assault weapons have proliferated the US household and folks are getting more tactical and learning tactical defense and shooting. Makes me think of how the US arms its enemies before it goes in and has a war or occupies the land.
Also, must credit OBAMA for the president most responsible for creating such a huge increase in gun sales. Thanks Barack!
The best gun for defense: the one you shoot best with and a reliable back-up, aka: ak47!
Sorry. SCOTUS has already ruled that Treaties do not supersede the US Constitution.
Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, “this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty,” although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement, not a “treaty” in the U.S. legal sense, and the agreement itself has never been ruled unconstitutional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert
They’ll wait (YEARS) for it to get to the SCOTUS? What if Cert denied? Oh that’s right, when the blue hats come, they’ll be carrying a CITIZENS RULE BOOK and following it to the letter, how naive of me!
The UN is a joke these days, so don’t worry too much about them, they are very ineffective in every scene they have been put into, Kofi Annan is a joke, Obama is power hungry. suggesting a breach of your constitution is blatant abuse of power. The UK has disarmed its citizens over 60+ years in several amnesties, ( threats of jail time etc etc ). One can only hope that some have kept their weapons just in case. Western Europe is much the same, either confiscation or amnesty, stiffer rules for gun clubs, and carrying weapons to and from the club. We can always go back to sharp steel… we may need to.!
Cross bows. Silent. Effective.
My thoughts exactly.
If you do your homework you can see that back in the day of the Iran Contra hearings with qliver north and jack brooks the contigency of government had plans for a suspension of the constitution during a period of unrest to be manufactred by a natural or non natural event.
Look at Hirricant Katrina and see for yourself how things went down.
Weapons confiscation is the goal of the UN or European Banking system-federal reserve et al. There is reason why they are privatley owned and do not have to be transparent. They will make sure the uSA is in a state of marshal law and then the UN boys will snatch the guns in the name of safety.Thats how the civil war will start. Remember that what appears to be USA troops will be mostly Russian spetnaz and UN wanna bees so it will get very messy in my opinion.
war pony – its not real. i’m a vet, many of my family members are vets or active. the whole premise that the united states military will rise up against citizens is ridiculous and vets know it. there is a small percentage of the military actively involved in war. the vast majority are in support or other fields. there jobs are pretty much identical to civilian jobs, they’re drive trucks, work in motor pools, work in administrative positions, work in healthcare, work as air traffic controllers, work as cooks etc etc.
the simple minded assertion that all these regular people will rise up and start killing their civilian family members is ludicrous and only proffered by ignorant people who have never served or know few that have. they have some strange mental image of every service member being some fricking government zombie. it’s total crap, they’re serving this country voluntarily, many help keeping you free and giving up their limbs while doing it, they don’t deserve to be slandered and libeled by ignorant morons who seem to have psychopathic tendencies.
when a guy writes “SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTION’S LATER. ALWAYS SHOOT FOR THE HEAD AND LEGS IF THE ARE BODY ARMORED. IF YOU GET ONE IN THE LEGS, WALK UP AND SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD TO FINISH THE KILL. TAKE NO PRISONERS UNLESS FOR INTERROGATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THEY ARE AMERICAN OR NOT” he’s clearly an a-hole.
it’s offensive as hell. especially when it’s posted to an article that’s nothing more than a manipulative piece of propaganda. the fact that ya’ll are living in some “survivor fantasy land” isn’t a viable excuse.
g-man: what is real is that most US military will be stranded overseas when this goes down. Hell, there are so many foreign troops on US soil, you haven’t a clue.
I never said the US Military would act on US! I’m a disabled Vet, ARMY WOFT. The white hats in the intelligence/military/NG would certainly take OUR side. But don’t discount foreign mercs/soldiers in US uniforms/blue hats, eh?
g-man, and as for those serving under ISAF, WTF!? NATO is the enemy that the central bankster mafia cartel (CBMC) uses to achieve hegemony. The CBMC also wants US to go at it again like mid 1800s. At that point, they’ll throw their commie dog in the fight and laugh their arses off so loud we can hear them from Zion.
Like I wrote over at the Marrs interview, our borders and ports are a sieve. A longshoreman friend at the Port of LA said a shipping container busted open one day. They found 5 Chinese men living in it with food and supplies. Who knows where that container was bound. All the Homeland Security is aimed at demoralizing Americans. Chasing illegals is a dumbshow. Over 50% of the students in LA are illegal.
This is to say, I can see how easy it would be for the PTB to have a standing army here without us knowing.
the assertion that our own military will rise up against us is repeated in here weekly. you can find any number of articles where the same posters paste their “kill the service member” horsecrap. it’s a constant theme. i challenge any of these frickin chickenhawks to make the same comments at their local VFW, they’ll get their heads handed to them. or come on down to my VA hospital that’s chock full of kids missing limbs, kids in wheelchairs and kids getting mental health treatment for the injuries they sustained serving this country. Most of them are national guard, they originally signed up to make a few extra dollars cause their civilian job pay barely makes ends meet. they didn’t sign up because of some staunch military ideology. they got caught in the damn crossfire. and now if they choose to read articles in here they have to read posts from a bunch of loudmouth blowhards who never served a day in their lives and don’t know squat about what they’re opining on. enough is enough.
and war pony if you’re a retired warrant officer you know damn well what i wrote is the truth. when some of these idiots go off on service members they way they do you should be standing up and straightening some of them out. this ground, “this we’ll defend”…
War Pony….
I’m sure you are aware that if any foreign troops are used on American civilians that it would be an act of Treason and Obama, Congress, Senate and Judiciary would all be meeting with the special firing squad that has been hand-picked for every President!
If martial Law is declared…the same scenario will happen!
No… military will not be firing upon American citizens and confiscating their weapons!
Military personel, veterans, Militia all take oaths to uphold the Constitution…the 2nd amendment is safe!
The Military has already informed troops…that if an order to shoot civilians who are not attacking a military installation or military personel is given by any commanding officer…the soldiers are to shoot the CO and any who are standing close to them. if any soldier is willing to carry out that order…they are to shoot them also!
Military who are over in other countries will be sent back home to defend their mother land….it wouldn’t take very long for most to be here!
Contingencies for such things have been put into place already if this is what needs to go down.
This story is just fear-mongering…it just ain’t gonna happen!!
g-man….
Well said! BTW…thank you for serving and for setting people straight about the military!
Isn’t it about time the American people woke up and realized that we have a cabal of traitorous cowards occupying our government? As a vet I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and Domestic – I took it seriously then and still do now! This same oath was supposedly taken by our elected officials – if their word isn’t worth spit then WE the people need to throw the traitors out – period! The American people will not stand for a return to Nazism or allow everything all vets and our forefathers fought and died for! WE will not bow down to tyranny nor follow blindly to surrender out country to the UN! Our sovereignty – our country and our nation was born out of a desire to be free of tyranny and authoritarian rule. Any who would forsake these inalienable rights and freedoms deserves to be treated as the traitor they are! When we WE wake up and take our country back before the sheeple follow blindly and give in and give up! I will honor the oath I took and defend to my death the freedoms guaranteed me by all those who came before – I WILL NOT dishonor their sacrifice nor their stand to defend this country. All those in government need to be removed from office and replaced by those who believe in this country and all it stands for – the majority of those there now have NO HONOR – they are cheap suits sold out to fascism and the UN
The UN can pass anything that they want. It will not be a law that afffects Americans unless the Senate passes a bill approving it. That won’t happen since they like being in Congress.
Post : GUN CONTROL FORBIDDEN – DICK ACT of 1902
URL : http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/07/gun-control-forbidden-dick-act-of-1902/
Posted : July 12, 2012 at 10:08 am
Author : Drake
Categories : Uncategorized
DICK ACT of 1902… CAN’T BE REPEALED (GUN CONTROL FORBIDDEN) – Protection Against Tyrannical Government
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node%2F3949
hey…stupid anonymous…
The ones shot in the Katrina footage….looters will always be shot!
You’re so full of BS…believe propaganda from idiots who know nothing! Massive Psy-ops BS….are you freakin’ for real? Talk about dumb-downed! You believe just about anything won’t you? There is no military personel or National Guard who will follow those orders…it is illegal to do so! Read up on the Nuremburg trials! I’m sure they don’t want to be charged for doing something so stupid as to follow that order! It goes against the second amendment!
Guess you didn’t read the post above of mine did you? Stop living in the fantasy, conspiracy world and come out for some air! it might clear the cobwebs from your headspace!
Not all the citizenry are fat stupid and lazy! There are lots of patriots and lots of veterans and lots of militia and lots of deerhunters and lots of military! the sale of 10 million guns in three months should give you a clue as to how many guns are out there and no one is going to pick up all of them! Those are only the documented ones!!
If you think any of the gangs or bikers are going to give up their weapons…think again!
One thing I really wish….that all of you who wish to post as anonymous would actually find a name to post under…it would be so much easier to differentiate who the hell who is who!
How about anon1, Anon2, anon3…..even that would freaking work better!
Sorry…just had to vent my frustration about it!
g-man: what I, I, I, was saying was REAL is that the push for gun registration/confiscation in the US has always been high on the CBMC’s list and goes way back.
Perhaps you missed the infamous “Twenty-Nine Palms Survey” where the military actually asked our troops if they would be willing to shoot at Citizens. Most, assuredly, answered “no’ but you can’t escape the fact that it has entered the borg-D.C. mindset.
I’m glad you have so much faith in the military/militia/Citizenry – I do too. Being from a military family that has fought for this Country in every conflict since Jamestown, and having been in the lead crew that shut down the Blood Games at the Freemen Standoff in Montana in ’96, I am more than fully aware of what feds will do – like the Koolaid in their Coffee that prompted them to want to protect the kids by killing them like at Waco. You could – had you been to the access identification checkpoint utside the Clark’s ranch – see them seething with the desire to kill.
Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir.
g-man: And, if you are so assured that “acts of Treason … would all be meeting with the special firing squad” then please do explain to me how and why the Federal Reserve Bank: is in essence running the world (TARP, QE 1-?; Maiden Lane LLP I-?, Operation Twist 1-?); got a monopoly on our money supply and could decide which companies would prosper (get loans) and which would not; beget monopoly on all other facets of commerce (finance, news/media, pharmaceuticals, military contractors; black market (drug & human trafficking) & NATO; and can OUTRIGHT VIOLATE the Constitution DAILY as only Congress shall coin money and declare the value thereof?
war pony – sorry buddy you’re confusing me with another posters comments, i suggest you re-read and address your comments to them; specifically; “Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir.” & “if you are so assured that “acts of Treason … would all be meeting with the special firing squad”
none of that has anything to do with the subject in my posts..
g-man – YOU are PARTIALLY CORRECT/I Apologize – my Friday, July 20, 2012 9:18 post should have been aimed at CW. However, your July 19, 2012 4:00 post starts with my name and then quotes others. Please change posters’ names when YOU quote others (and make it appear as if those were my thoughts when they aren’t). The “Don’t twist my words into your sophomoric soap-box rant regarding your pride in our inate sense of Freedom – you’re singing to the choir” is certainly applicable to YOU in that instance.
And, otherwise, You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in your “Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:00″ post. Ditto on the “This We Will Defend”
Dear Choir,
We’re singing the same tune just being in this comment section, though some are wandering off-key just a bit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when it comes to singing the same song, everyone needs to agree with how the tune goes. Harmony and impromptu are permitted!
We all agree that the Constitution has served us well when checks and balances still served The People’s interests rather than Special interests. So, we don’t plan on throwing that document out anytime soon.
We mainly know that we reject the cacophony from the Hill, the MSM, Wall Street and any of the other Bigs. They are out of tune with the Constitution.
Seriously, there is too much at stake — our babies and grandbabies, mainly. We want to see them safely into the future. So we have to be smart, know what we believe and get ourselves in tune. Everyone knows something, everyone has something to offer — a little at a time, lest we be presumptuous hurting our own selves and others.
I see leadership here in this forum. Leaders are made not born. The vision is more important than being the boss. Yet bosses are greatly needed! Rigid postures need to be sacrificed on the altar of spiritual growth. Humility precedes genius.
What we need is people who specialize in the impossible. This is a stand against tyranny– an old fight. But the time we’re in is a new frontier and the learning curve is huge. God be with us all!
Debra
@ War Pony: You’re comment about the military questionaire was dead on. Once the government realized they couldn’t count on our own military to do their dirty work for them, that’s when they started bringing over U.N. troops to train here.
Another little known fact: during the last census, all the census takers were required to carry a hand held GPS reader with them and take GPS readings at every door they came to, regardless of whether anyone was home or not. I know this to be absolutely true, because I asked a friend of mine who worked for them, and he told me it was. The reason for this? Because all the foreign troops based here are mainly from Russia, germany, etc., and most can’t read or write English. But they all understand GPS readings. Keep up the good fight!
BTW, if you want some inspiration, Google the Singing Revolution.
Go Estonia!
D.
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Where is the “fact or fiction” button so I can send this stinker to the dump?!!!
For close up protection, you can’t beat “the governor”, “mix six”, 2.5″ .410′s, .45 ACP & 45 Colt, mix & match in a pistol.
Fact or Fiction doesn’t matter to me in this BIN forum. It makes me think things through. The military trains their people with scenarios which is “possibility” training. If the PTB’s goal is fearmongering, then it has backfired already.
It’s like training a skittish horse. The horse’s problem is a lack of depth perception. So you start with small jumps and gradually build to higher and wider depth perception training.
If you’re not learning anything from anybody else, then just stay small.
The Gun Control Drums are beating already from the Aurora Batman Massacre.
Police Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) in the Batman movie now showing in theaters: “You’re a detective now. For you there are no more coincidences.”
This maybe of interest to you all….goes to show that the Military is not behind Obama and they will not fire upon American citizens nor take their guns away!!
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/us-military-reveals-coup-plan-to-topple-obama/
dgdh
American’s, and the majority of the world’s human population, don’t know what real PEACE is. Peace? Peace? There is no peace, just as the prophets foretold! Read the book of Deuteronomy. In it the blessings of doing the will of God and the consequences of not doing the will of God are desrcribed. America and American’s do not do the will of the God of the prophets. Neither do those who support and make up the United Nations. The consequences are being meted out!
“HD, we already have illegal aliens in the military. We have Muslims and Communists and Evangelicals too.
How do you feel about amnesty for illegals if they have served our country in combat?”
The same way I feel about releasing prisoners and giving them .50 machine guns. What’s American about breaking it’s laws, and why would giving them weapons make that better?
Do you have another scenario. It’s entertaining.
Let them come they will get the suprise of their life.
For all you MORANS who keep saying it wont happen here, you did see the Katrina footage right? IT ALREADY HAS HAPPENED HERE!!!!THEY ALREADY DID IT!!!! You remember Ruby Ridge, WACO, OKLAHOMA CITY, 911, Every war of the 20th and 21st century based on lie after lie after lie with willing moles in the media and cover up after cover up.!!! STOP living in denial. Sh_t is happening. This ain’t your government. Calling real documents and their stated plans fear porn is some kind of weird psycho-babble cognitive dissonance. It wont be UN Blue hats, it will be brain washed dumb down gung ho roided out 21 year old National Guard ect. They’ll follow their orders period! They’ll be pre-conditioned and under a massive psyop, ready to kill just like Katrina. However I don’t think it will be one big massive confiscation, it will be incremental. Unless they unleash a series of False Flags, a Bank Holiday or even any natural disaster they can exploit. Look around at your fellow citizenry, People are f_cked up, the general population of America is fat, stupid and passive. They are ripe for the picking. They will be more than willing to do whatever they’re told by their loving government, to get their food stamps, free healthcare and welfare. They’ll only have to deal with the holdouts and Patriots. Cue Batman Music……..
Any Amendment of rights which follows the first Amendment is thus an extension, and rest upon the foundation of that first Amendment …
And that foundation is as unstable as quicksand …
I say that because just as rights of the first amendment are not empowered by any written law … the rights to bear arms … is simply a privilege that could have and has been taken away at any given time …
And furthermore the right to bear arms in this second amendment statement … seems to have actually applied to the people of a well regulated Militia … and not all people …
Whenever the word “the” is used … it is specifically referring to a particular person, place, group or thing … trickery in words have been the unjust and wicked strongest points …relying on the mainstream’s good heartedness, and their Positive discerning to the sinister mind’s original evil heartedness and actual negative meaning …
So when they of the well militia people, march to take away the mainstream people arms … they will feel and operate well within their rights … and rather this is a disarmament of a Violent Nation … or wrongful infringement of privileges .. is yet to be argued and or proven …
Now rather a people will peacefully surrender their weapons … or there be some blood shed … will be left to the choices made by the mainstream people … but the mainstream must realize that the amendment and enforcing laws they have always so diligently stood for … has never been on their side … the first amendment must be changed, and the Congress must make rightful laws backing any and all given rights …
Now if you were to ask me if I was for or against the bearing of arms … I would have to say YES and NO …
Yes because the binding of one man of one right … is the doorway to the binding of all men of all rights …
Yet I’d rather see no armory .. than one armory in the hands of one negative conscious mind governed by prejudice of any sort …
I would rather see no armory … than one armory in the hands of an unstable or easily negatively influenced conscious mind … or minds finding pleasure in killing for sport of any kind …
So considering these days and times and the state of evil negativity many minds are in … I would rather see no armory …
First of I agree our govenment has been given far to much power,if people would read a little more they would know that our founding fathers want govrnment to stay small,becuase it saw how it effected england in that era,second all the laws that are passed unaware to the citizens are made to bolster these old laws so they can fill any loop hole that may appear,also the sheeple of America keep complaining about what the gov should have done or how they were not doing the right things to protect us,this is intentional they want yoy to give them the ability to take more and more of your rights,and you give them the ammunition to do so we are suppose to fight tyrinny not feed it .
I have also read that the Obama admin has passed laws allowing law enforcement to arrest detain and hold AMERICANS indefinately without due process without even being charged with a crime,just look at our courts and jails to know this some of these people have been sitting in county jails for a couple of years awaiting trial for things that are completely idiotic. there is so much more to all of this and it is all linked one way or another a domino or butterfly effect.
All I can say is “I am prepared” to fight for my rights and my country. I am willing to bet I won’t be standing alone either.
A 5.56 rifle and .40 s&w pistol are the best as the dhs uses those calibers and have lots of rounds that you can use in your weapons.
It’s comin’ folks. It sounds all conspiracy-like and goofy now, but read about Nazi Germany. Ask people who went thru Katrina. These whack jobs aren’t fooling around. They believe that their time has come to make their move.javascript:grin(‘:mad:’)