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Video!!! 13-13-13 Activation: December 16, 2013

Thursday, December 12, 2013 19:34
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(Before It's News)

13th. Everything is coming up the number 13th, recently, I had a Tarot reading the card of Death, the number 13 revealed itself. Nothing to worry about, the Death card represents change. Today, is Friday the 13th, and the Powerball lottery game in America is 400 million, we would call that good luck even if we won13/100 of the overall take.

December 16, 2013 is being called the real end of the Mayan calendar due to a mishap in calculations according to  Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger who made this discovery circa 2010. Lynne said the planet will begin the 13th Grand Cycle on December 17, 2013 ( a new start).

Also, the Sun will be in the Ophiuchus Constellation through December 18, 2013. Ophiuchus is the 13th constellation of the zodiac.

  • In the Gospel of Saint John, Jesus uses on the whole 13 comparisons or titles to designate who he is really:
    1. I am the Bread (Jn 6,35 and 6,48 and 6,51)
    2. I am the Light (Jn 8,12 and 9,5)
    3. I am the Gate (Jn 10,7 and 10,9)
    4. I am the Good Shepherd (Jn 10,11 and 10,14)
    5. I am the Resurrection (Jn 11,25)
    6. I am the Way (Jn 14,6)
    7. I am the Truth (Jn 14,6)
    8. I am the Life (Jn 14,6)
    9. I am the Vine (Jn 15,5)
    10. I am the King (Jn 18,37 and 19,21)
    11. I am Son of God (Jn 10,36)
    12. I am in the Father (Jn 14,10 and 14,11 and 14,20 and 17,8)
    13. I am (Jn 8,24 and 8,28 and 8,58 and 13,19)

13 13 13, December 16th, 2013 Initiation Into The YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkfF_5fFf8&feature=youtube_gdata‎

 

To help with your DNA activation and learn more about it please refer to the following video on 13-13-13:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vBkfF_5fFf8

http://melbrake.wordpress.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Saber

    My DNA is just fine the way it is, thank you very much. :roll:

    • Wretched Infidel

      LOL Saber that is funny.

      The only things very wrong with mine are what they did to me as a baby/child/teen in forcing vaccinations and all the initiations in church, songs of inviting bad spirits into your heart as master and Lord, etc. That is all damage we all have had done to our DNA…

      this is supposedly ‘enlightenment’ or if we are ‘unworthy’ to become enlightened, it is physically and spiritually, mentally debiltating, if not fatal.

      That’s their game, to ‘debilitate’ (read: force to accept abominations) to either eliminate the threat of thinking, clear-headed, free humans, or to gain more slaves to their Master, (Satan).

      We are all fighting this. Our DNA is damaged big-time, but we still fight that injured DNA or should we say, infiltrated DNA.

      ‘ramping up the DNA’ as they like to talk about it is only possession. That’s their goal. For us.

  • Wretched Infidel

    I think the date we all should be looking at is today, as I’ve said, this is the start of the countdown to 13 days til Christmas.

    Ironically it not only begins the count on December 13 (today), thru December 25, (Yule birth of Satan’s child saviour, or Satan himself incarnate ‘reborn’) but also this year, (2013, no less! ) is a bad year, a very bad year of signs for us: Friday the 13th today! –

    making it that much more significant tothe ones using this date against us, and the coming days.

    You know the song ‘The Twelve Days of Christmas’… blah blah…Yuck, they only say that in nice terms, using the number 12 so we do not catch on to the facts that it is a 13-day countdown or count-up to the Day of the birth of the Goddess’ and Horned God’s Anti-Saviour. 13 being the Day Decembe4 25, 12 being December 24, which is ‘Mother Night’, and of course many sacrifices will be held during this period all over the globe to energise the earth-grid, because the grand climactic war is coming and they want no one to be able to withstand the oppressive forces against us.

    The Solstice will be a special day of murder and blood, as will the following days.

    Today you all need to mark your calendars and watch how the things pan out. Today is day 1 of the count. Do not celebrate this Satanic funeral/mourning/rejoicing passion procession of the Death God/dess. (are you going to ban my comment for this, I hope not) That is what Christmas and the Solstices are celebrating, the rebirth of the God of Death and Destruction, The Horned God/Horned Consort/Bloody Lying ‘Saviour’ of traditional Christianity, who you know is not the biblically revealed one Yahushua.

    You can always tell which one you are honouring and worhipping. If you celebrate the conception at Ishtar, Eostre, after the Spring Equinox, you are honouring the Goddess, called an abomination also in the bible. Christians, you should stop being laughed at; you remain so ignorant and pathetic. Stop it please, you make me too ashamed that you bring the Bible into such disrepute and such a thing to be laughed at, just because you do nothing that it tells you and you DO all the thiings it commanded you NOT TO DO or to ever participate in.

    And the God you worship, if it is a triune godhead, (Father, Mother, Son Saviour-figure) is NOT the Ones revealed in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. There is no trinity in the Biblical account. No trinity. There are Two Creator-Beings, united in complete agreement only two, not three. And we are to pray to only the One, The Father-Creator Beiing. IAUE (Yahuweh).

    And if you 9 months later after the fertility celebrations and mock mourning sacrifice passion of Easter also are celebrating/participating in IN ANY little way whatsoever, then, you are honouring your stated enemy – The Destroying God, The Abomination that makes Desolate; The Abominations of the birth celebration of the false messiah-figure, Christmas Day and his mother/father, December 24 and the Solstice, Dec 21/22, are all FORBIDDEN in the bible, so whoever holds the Bible and does these things in direct opposition to the Creator Father and His real messiah, Yahushua, (not Jesus, not ‘Christ’ as taught in church) it simply means that you do NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOUR BIBLE SAYS whatsoever, you are either severely uninformed or uninterested in finding the truth, or you are one of the people who are already so brainwashed by initiations into this horribly hypocritical malpractice of the ‘biblical’ precepts, passing it off as ‘biblical’ that you are simply reprobate.

    Satanists are more informed (actually they are very welll-informed) of all these things, and they are laughing at Christians who sing the carols praising their god, the Horned One of Old.

    ‘The Twelve Days of Christmas, my true love …” you sing, they sacrifice, party, drink the blood of murdered innocents, and laugh at you because you are raising the energy for them.

  • Wretched Infidel

    Yes, and this article is good, because it mentions these things all tied in together and one more thing I would add is that December 17 is a FULL MOON

    So, during the 13-day count to December 25 day of evil spawn birth, we have a triangulation of an alignment on the 16th, or 15/16, and this will be most efficacious to sacrifices made towards something growing, especially, a work in progress, for the energy and you know this is going to be done against you. You should pray to IAUE in HIS NAME commanded by Him, (forbidden by men who are evil, scoffed and sidelined by priesthood of Baal/Moloch) because severe STUFF is going to happen because of the rituals being done up to then. December 17 being a full moon is used as well for casting spells and calling down the spirits but for different type of actions desired.

    So you are all going to see lots of things happening after these days are finished and even during them as it is an ongoing process… like the author alluded to, the raising of consciousness is a planned and ongoing agenda/work, and it is what you should be worried about.

    Pray to your Real Creator-Father, IAUE, please and do not invoke your Destroyer any more.
    Pray in Yahushua’s name, (contains Yah, his Father’s Name) only, never in Jesus’ name.

    You need this.

    • DavId Montayne

      “Wretched Infidel’ – who are you trying to fool. You give us some good information but you raise alarms by telling people not to pray to Jesus. Thus, you are the fool.

      1 John 2:22: “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

      1 John 4:1-4: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
      Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

      Deuteronomy 18:20: “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.”

      If you think that you can twist the Bible’s words to fit your own beliefs then you got another thing coming. May JESUS have mercy on your soul.

      • Wretched Infidel

        Shalom, I just got here and see your reply, thank you for your opinion, yet I have not enough time to answer your accusations properly.

        We are not supposed to pray to Jesus, ever. In the Bible, the Messiah himself (not Jesus, he was never named Jesus, but Yahushua – why do you not like to use your Messiah’s Name? why hold to a fake name still?) but in the bible Yahushua the Messiah said, Do it not, pray only to the Father (and he taught us to pray to the Father, his Father, in the Right Authentic Real personal Name!)

        It is you who are the fool on this, seriously, you need to do research as your bible tells you to do.

        I have been a fool in my life many things, but not this since I learned about the truth. You should know your bibles have been messed with, deletions, changes, augmentations, additions, destructions of the true words in there have all been done by ‘Holy church Fathers’.

        You know this, right? the Name IAUE (Yahweh, YHWH, Iahuweh, Iahuah) was TAKEN OUT, AND THE NAME OF THE MESSIAH WAS CHANGED to better meld with the Solar Deity who was already feted at this time of year, as having been reborn in a baby saviour-figure’s body at Christmas after the winter solstice. You know this is abomination according to your Bible, right? Do you not know this?

        why do you not know this yet? Your preachers are leading you astray, you are lost now in the dangerous deceptions of the religion of Sol Invictus who protestants say they protested against, but they follow suit just the same.

        the trinity is Satanic because it is an invention of the One against Yah.

        And you are content with that? I am horrified.
        And I never try to fool anyone.
        I only want to bring the truth to the people like my Father IAUE wants and how Yahushua’s last repeated words to Peter requested. “Love me Peter? Feed My Sheep!…repeated 3 times

        That is not fooling them, that is feeding them. You are promulgating a lie, but I am against your lies. and your apparent father’s lies.

        down with your lies.
        to the truth only.

        IAUE and Yahushua are the truth, and their spirits spread their truth.
        Why are you against that? Is it because you have not heard any of this and you are afraid?
        In that case I will give you the benefit of the doubt

      • Saber

        You should pay close attention to what he says. He knows exactly what he’s speaking about. As painful as it may be for you to consider… he is dead nuts on. Should you research any single point he has written, you would find it correct.
        But hey… to each his own…. right?

      • Saber

        You should listen to him. He knows exactly what he’s talking about.
        Quite frankly, I agree with him entirely.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        And it came to pass, that, as He was praying in a certain place, when He ceased, one of His disciples said unto Him:

        Master, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

        And He said unto them:

        When ye pray, say…

        OUR FATHER which art in Heaven, Hallowed by thy Name.

      • Mayhem

        Who shall we believe, Beef Supreme? Messiah or ezwatchman.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        Go all-in Messiah and you’ll never lose.

  • hostile177

    Numerologically it all adds up to 4 which means strength and stability. I’m going with that. :wink:

  • Mister Fred

    You had a tarot card reading….. yet you are quoting scriptures? kind of a conflict of intrest? :roll:

    • Mister Fred

      Since we are quoting scriptures…

      Leviticus 20:6
      I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.

      • Wretched Infidel

        You are right in this Mr. Rogers thank you for reminding of this fact…
        once you let them get an inch, they will use that in for as long as they are able, it’s not pretty or good… IAUE knows this would be the case, and He doesn’t want us to be harmed by communing with demons…

        they don’t want to actually commune, they want to take over and control, and then destroy… all the time posing as angels of light and wisdom
        I hate them

  • Wrenn

    I am the eggman-

  • fuzzy696

    13 is lucky…..today is the 13th and i,m cutting down my 13 medical marijuana plants and i cure for 13 days…..MERRY X-MAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.

    • Wretched Infidel

      You got the remedy… I am very glad for you. Please don’t celebrate Christmas though, and you will be very glad you didn’t.

      Light one up for me, man, or grind some up for me and my people. Cheers, L’Chaim, Shalom and Life and Truth and all green herbs for the medicine of man and animal from IAUE Who made them with Yahushua to their wonderful gifts of healing and health, forever!

  • taptap

    lol the dreaded 13, trhe age most of us started puberty, got pimples, and experienced growing pains

  • Don't be hating!

    We are too concern with the past. No one ever focus on the present. This is why so many predictions are FALSE! They come from the past.

  • Geeper

    Wouldn’t 13-13-13 be January 13 2014?

    • fuzzy696

      NOPE

    • Wretched Infidel

      I may be wrong in this, but I think they say that 13-13-13 is tomorrow, Dec 16, 2013, – is this correct? I cannot keep up … just got here now and have no time to look this date up, so thank you all in advance… I don’t understand anything about 13-13-13 except that there were 13 months of 28 days, and so it comes out to be Dec 16?

      ??!?? Mayan to ours?and that Ophiuchus is the 13th zodiac which is left out because of our calendar changes?

      thank you for your questions and input… it all helps us all

  • Room With a View

    A message to all Christians – stay away from shopping malls where you sacrifice your hard earned cash to honour a false god. When the saviour’s birth was heralded by the angels they sang Peace on earth and Goodwill to all men.
    If you really stop and think, this message does not come through any more, it is one of the most stressful times of the year, and the day where it is statistically proven that it is the worst day for domestic violence above all the other days of the year. All the ugly resentments come out when the extended family gathers together. Lets celebrate the birth of the Jewish saviour by eating pork. It is not a celebration of peace and goodwill.
    Me, I do not celebrate christmas, nor do I get involved with gift giving and I shun social gatherings preferring to immerse myself in nature and communion with the one person who actually truly loves me and has promised me salvation from the wrath and judgement that is to come, has redeemed me out of the snare of the fowler and who will come again to receive me to himself, that where he is, I will be also. He is my hiding place. People think that I am strange for not celebrating xmas, however, it does not bother me to be thought of in this way. It doesn’t really bother me at all. You really should do yourself a favour and seek your salvation, appropriate the free gift of God into your life and not spend another moment on this horrific pagan festival.

    • Wretched Infidel

      Thank you for your insights and wisdom and love of truth, Room With A View. You are brave.

      I wish I had known people like you 30 years ago…it would have helped so much

      but I was in enemy camps mostly breaking my spirit down to the dirt.

      You will help so many of us here by this message of truth. I agree with all you said, and if people read it carefully and ponder it, and look it up in the Bible and see history, they will know it is all true.

      While I knew this season is the worst for suicides for many years (over 20) I didn’t know that Christmas is the worst day for domestic violence. That is very appalling. Actually, it makes total sense…
      I told a friend of mine as I read it last night printed out the replies (I am sorry I didn’t see iyour reply or get to reply to you before leaving yesterday as they closed for the weather at 3:00 Virginia time yesterday early suddenly) and my friend laughed and said, “Oh well of course! You know, the family members’ all fighting and people’s antagonisms are heightened at that day for some reason.. Your sentence ”all the ugly resentments come out when theextended family gathers togehter’ is SO funny I busted out laughing as he did too when I read it.

      We both totally agree with alal you wrote, thank you = it makes perfect logical sense.

      You are so right it is a horrific festival.
      Even more, it is Satanic actually. He is the one feted/worshipped and adored in baby saviour’s body and Father Sun God’s body and even the Virgin Mary/Isis/Inana, etc. is I think only the guise of a female…
      but maybe in the beginning it was a female at least in body… to make the prototype threesome?
      I am still unsure about who actually was the original prototype if there was anothe one besides Eve (don’t get me wrong she was not a demon, only a human who made a mistake) and Satan producing Cain. Was there another one as well, another couple – Cain and another ‘female’ demon who took the form of a human to produce his baby? Nimrod and Semiramis is sort of confusing to me since that was Nineveh, and there had to be another earlier prototype threesome of Father, Mother and Child Saviour figure (all counterfeit by Satan) earlier than that.

      So who were they, if there were earlier ones? I am confused about this… can you help me out with this, Room With A View, or anyone else here? It has perplexed me for decades. Thank you again for your wonderful thoughts.

      May IAUE greatly bless you and your loved ones all – for you are good and truthful and brave. A pure person.

    • Wretched Infidel

      Christians, FOLLOW THIS LADY’S GOOD ADVICE THIS YEAR… NOW PLEASE

  • patriot156

    theres no 13/13/13 no 13th month
    now theres a 12/13/13
    or a 1/13/13 but no 13th month

    • BinaryRecoil

      :lol: That was the first thought that came to my mind too- I don’t think the author was thinking of a date when he made the article like that. Regardless, liking the number 13 and quoting the Bible at the same time is quite interesting due to the past when the persecution of protectors of religious pilgrimage were persecuted/executed for their money, to the point they became an underground/secret society before becoming corrupted in this current day & age.

  • AndreyE

    Yes, my DNA is fine without satan’s witchcraft

  • Wretched Infidel

    Shalom and thank you up there for the backup…

    I wish I had time now to say thank you both more proper…

    was over at this place, (since I am banned by this site to post things and they remove lots of my comments which is harmful to the people and is censorship big-time)

    but please you may check this out (also see the Killing America article on Before It’s News see my comment to shed more light on this … to those who may be confused by it all)

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2435705/pg1

  • Wretched Infidel

    Beef supreme, I am very glad to see you, thank you for the Biblical backup… we needed those verses, …

    had them in my head but failed to properly place them there, rushing last night 4 minutes before they closed down here… thank you very much

    we all appreciate your factual things.

    I would wish to stay here now and ask you questions about the Ison last call 15/16 comment you made, I am in need of more information… but again they are closing here… next tijm? Love
    your infidel truth-seeking sister
    Shalom to all of you, May Iaue help us all and bless you all
    this is a fight and a war we are all in]
    help one another…Love to all

    • Mayhem

      I had formed an entirely erroneous opinion about you, Sister Wretch, it’s certain that i assumed much from your username.

      Around here you could be seen to be pouring much scorn and derision upon religion and i had you confused for an Agnostic, in the least, or even an Atheist.

      Absolutely we are to pray to Yahweh in the name of Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.

      • Wretched Infidel

        That’s quite alright, maybe it’s my fault that I do not explain it clearly each time, and should do that like maybe make a summary or a ‘caveat’ about it so that people know what I am promulgating is the Biblical truth, not Judaism or Christianity’s traditional religions of Baal worship.?

        Your reply has made me realize more urgently that this is needed. Thank you Mayhem.

        I am very glad that you acknowledge that we are in traditional Judaism and Christianity not honouring the Messiah by using the name Jesus. I am glad that (Praise Yahuweh, IAUE) you know that name is entirely wrong and worse, glorifies the Solar Deity (Zeus, Esus, Iesous, Dios, Theos, Deo, Hesus) because that is what the Christians worship (taken straight from Babylon by Rome, and then the Protestants follow what that Mother of Harlots said to do)

        but when you say above about Ha-Mashiach and that name, Yesh, you are using instead of Yah – shua, I don’t like to have to bring this up because it is really bad, but since you are good and you need to know this urgently – since you love the truth –

        Yesh plus – ua should not be used for the Messiah of the Bible’s name because it means something really really BAD.

        I know that you are using it in good faith, praise your Maker IAUE. This is just one more instance in that deception that our authorities have managed to acomplish, that in keeping us from the Real Creator and the Real Messiah, (Biblically, per the original manuscripts) ,Church people and Rabbis have their super-imposed manmade traditions of lies that they teach us, all designed to hide the truth from us as best they can, in order to keep the people in darkness and keep them from realizing the plans of IAUE (Yahuweh, Yahweh) and Yahshua The Messiah/Ha Mashiach (or even more completely the whole name, Yahushua – but still both should have the definite YAH in the name of the biblical Messiah who is carrying the Father’s name in his name – this is the litmus test of who we are honouring actually as well as the holidays we keep or observe which easily determine for people up there like ezwatchman and ‘Anonymous’ below… )

        It is about this – the name when deliberately mispronounced is an attempt by men, who follow traditions, inspired originally by evil, (the enemy) to hide the true name/s. Because in knowing and using in truth and spirit the True Name of Yah, (including the name of Yah-shua) we will benefit and realize our Yah-given potential in His plan. they do not like this, so they HIDE the real name (the priesthood of Baal hide the real name).
        this is to further their agenda, the worship of Satan/Lucifer.

        This cannot really prosper if we find out, prove, know and use the Name of IAUE! (Yahuweh).

        But it gets even more evil than that, in the specifics. As you may or may not know, Mayhem, in Hebrew even now, the word for Goat sounds just like ‘Eeais or Eeaiz, or eeaiszh or eeaish…

        in other transliteration of this sound for the word goat it would be spelled Yeais, or yeeaiz, or yeeaizh.

        Goat. We are calling upon spirits when using names and when we do not know the meaning of a name, we need to find out before we use it. We can’t just say, ‘well, since I do not know I will just say ‘Father’… this is only if you really cannot find out the real name, which most people can do today. Because Satan only too well will come/send envoys when we call him any title like that, but when people deliberately use ‘Jesus’ or the above one you mentioned, (tradion-bound Rabbinically-approved deliberate mispronunciation of the Name Yah) well bad things are happening in the spirit world, which directly affects the physical world.

        Satan fools most everybody, even the Jews who try to get to the truth and stop reading at ‘Jesus’ is the biblical messiah’ and start using that name; then, to make it sound more Hebrew therefore ‘legitimate’ they may use the name approved of by Messianic Rabbis and use ‘Yesh-__’ (Yah forbid, please forgive me)
        But it is still a terrible thing because Satan is wily, smart, smarter than us, knowing many more ways to fool humans than humans can even imagine, and so they may stay with that egregious error and although they are sincerely trying to honour the Messiah they read about in the Scriptures, and sincerely LOVE HIM,
        they are still under the spell of the lying priests and still are actually denigrating the Real and honouring the Adversarial God, the Horned God, Baal, The Goat-God instead!

        Yesh (eeaiz, eeays) Goat + shua (saves) = something horrible we never ever ever should say.

        do you see what I am saying

        I can explain it more clear if anyone likes but is this clear somewhat? They are saying that the real name of our messiah (using the deliberate mispronunciation of Yahu being Yeho therefore they continue and say the son’s name is Ye + shua because of that first egregious disobedient mispronunciation, (from the babylonian taboo of saying the name correctly)

        the priests of Baal (the Goat God’s priesthood including traditional Christianity) like us to say instead of the correct, real Yahshua, and Yahuweh/Yahweh – must have YAH in both names of Father and the Son/Messiah/Word –

        but they would like us to use the Satanic name of ‘The Goat Saves’ meaning The Goat God
        IAUE forgive me for even typing that, please forgive me and forgive us all for this terrible mistake… we didn’t know, we didn’t know

      • BEEF SUPREME

        W.A.

        One quick note on the names:

        ישועה = SALVATION and is pronounced ‘yeshua’

        ‘YESHU’ as a contraction means ‘may his name be blotted out. This is often the spelling and pronunciation by which the Talmuds seek to besmirch and tarnish.

        ‘Yeshua’ or the contracted form of Yehoshua (Joshua), Y’shua should not be seen as objectionable according all the evidence I have seen.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        And while making a point about appropriate name usage, I wrote W.A. instead of W.I for Wretched Infidel. Woops.

      • Mayhem

        Yeah, nah, i’m not making that Goat = Yesh argument, bit of a stretch for my sensibilities. I offer no argument to your claim for IAUE but according to my study i prefer YHWH or Yahweh when i’m being more familiar,

        I employ titles for Messiah in order to more accurately convey what I mean and in this case i was pointing to The Savior. Not many read Hebrew but are you suggesting that “ישועה” is not the word that i should make study of?

      • Mayhem

        Oh and just because my opinion of you has changed does not automatically make it favourable still i used the term Sister because of your claim yet do not know this for a certainty.

    • Anonymous

      Wretched Infidel

      Always suspected that you were a Jew.mind you your Avtar kind of gives it away.
      Go read your TALMUD and leave Christianity to Christians that believe in Jesus,not like your Bunch that blaspheme our Lord. Not aware of it Go here:http://www.sherryshriner.com/talmud_tidbits.htm

      • WTX

        Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
        And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
        Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
        My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
        Mark 16:19
        So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
        John 8:40
        But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.
        John 14:28
        My Father is greater than I.
        John 20:17
        I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
        Acts 17:31
        Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
        1 Corinthians 11:3
        The head of Christ is God.
        1 Corinthians 15:28
        And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
        Colossians 3:1
        Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
        1 Timothy 2:5
        For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
        1 Peter 3:21-22
        Jesus Christ: who is … on the the right hand of God.

      • Wretched Infidel

        LOL ANONY, LOLOLOL…. sigh… thank you for the laugh I needed it today you know.

        Yah help me, I don’t even know where to start with that though…

        okay I am trying to keep it simple for you dude or madam, as the case may be…

        your emotions are wildly fluctuatiing and that indicates that you are suffering from some warring conflct within your mind/body, and I think I know what it is. If you give me no information and no logic, this is what I have to go on:

        You have based your entire belief system on a lie, a misconception, but – it is really not so much your fault as that of YOUR LEADERS IN CHURCH. THEY LIED TO YOU MAN.

        YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS ISSUE UP WITH THEM, BUT FIRST YOU NEED TO HAVE FACTS AT YOUR fingertips/in your brain, you need to read a lot before you go in to their den.

        You are equating ‘Jews’ and ‘Judaism’ with the truth, / truthbearers unfortunately that is what it was supposed to be equated with but is as we can all see, not the case any more since the last righteous kings of Israel died.

        They were chosen to learn the truth of IAUE, and to be an example of how IAUE’s truth will result in blessings, for the nations of the world to observe, and to come from all corners of the globe and ask them, ‘Who Is your Mighty One you worship? Tell us, we want to know Who, and how to worship Him also so that we can be blessed like He blesses you!” you know this history. They didn’t follow Yah, so bad things happened to them, like bad things are happening to the USA and Western Europe NOW, FOR THE SAME REASON: REJECTION OF YAH/IAUE.

        Christians are not any better, they are even maybe worse, since they say they are NOT doing the same thing ‘the Jews’ did – (many of them even being the house of Israel too) and saying they are ‘the new chosen ones’ (!) omg the blasphemy…
        or ‘took the place of’ ‘the Jews’… total anti-semitic bullsh!t and blasphemy.

        You are the ones that blaspheme the Biblical Messiah, Anonymous, you and your kind in Christian Church – BLASPHEME THE REAL MESSIAH YAHUSHUA/YAHSHUA and worship the anti-christ in his place, this Christmas and next Easter… if we survive this coming punishment between now and next easter that is.

        No, if I were a member of the tribe of Judah, (a Jew) as you say you ‘suspected me of’ (omg that is so … pathetically funny, if i do not laugh i would do something else.. or feel like it) then I would most likely have an excellent wardrobe, have money in the bank, be a doctor or a lawyer, and a beautiful car. And right now I would not be struggling with you and your problem with Jews and the truth of the Bible and your church’s lies to you – (which you instinctively KNOW – which is the reason for your conflict) for I would not care what you think of me as a Jew because I would care so little about you as an ignorant and prideful gentile.

        both groups are going to get the ignominious shock of their lives – and I think, this will be soon.

        Read, anonymous, the Jews (and I do not believe in or like the TALMUD in any way.. but this is not real ‘judaism’ anyway) do NOT WORSHIP YAHWEH, UNLESS THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO LEARNED THE EVIL OF THE TRADITIONAL RABBINICAL PRIESTHOOD and come out of established Judaism (based on lies evil worship of Lucifer/Adonai and man’s traditions) like Mayhem up there I think is one of these truthful people who go where the facts lead, and this is leading them AWAY FROM ESTABLISHED ACCEPTED RELIGIOUS PRACTICES which are WRONG, DEAD WRONG.

        If you do not read, Anonymous, and find out that The Bible forbids what you are DOING this season for ‘your Christ’ and what you believe is A TOTAL LIE AND BLASPHEMY – which insults your Messiah Yahshua and your Father, IAUE (Yahweh) you will be very very sorry.

        Please get the facts. I am a mut like you most probably, a mixture of many people maybe some Jewish blood in there like my grandmother said, but mainly an amalgam of European genes but still, each one is given the opportunity to overcome these genetic traits and overcome the hexes and spellcastings our leaders, parents, society, religous practices churches and synagogues have put on us; If cain had a choice (and he did, said IAUE) to be acceptable to IAUE, he could have overcome his genetic influence towards depravity and evil and murder. He just felt like not overcoming that evil DNA. All of us have it now, I think. To one degree or another. You have to overcome your specific DNA which has been infiltrated and weakened – for the enemy’s plan is to do that to us – and go where the truth leads you.
        Just read, facts, your Bible is telling you not to do what you just revealed you believe up there in your comment. You follow the Anti-Messiah, you love him, you follow his father, Satan as your God.

        That is not good, anonymous.
        Do not go to the Jews for truth, you will not get it there. Do not go to Church for truth, it is not there. It is in the Bible, and you must get the original Name understood which was taken out. That is the key to our salvation, Anonymous.

        It makes no difference to IAUE Jew or not Jewish. Each man is held accountable for his own truth-getting. You need to want it. Do not be afraid to ask and to find, and to question. This is what IAUE wants you all to do. Not to follow men blindly into the pit.
        He warned us all in America especially on November 28. It is going to be that IAUE soon has to allow the deliverance to us of what we clamour to have… The God of Death and Destruction will soon be upon us, as this is the God America has loved, worshipped and chosen, instead of IAUE – the real Creator-Father.
        Worship a God of Blood and Destruction, refuse to turn away even in the face of graphic warnings from IAUE to repent and turn from this evil, and that country will receive that evil they wanted in the end.
        Come Out of Her, My People (this religious system of worship of Sol Invictus/Baal/Lucfer/Horus/Molech/Adonai/Satan)
        so that ye partake NOT OF HER SINS – (like Easter, Thanksgiving, Halloween and Christmas)
        SO THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES

        HE WARNED US NOVEMBER 28, 2013 GRAPHICALLY AND YET you still defend worship of the anti-christ and his Lying Father?

  • wizard

    Just to add to superstitious mumbo jumbo MI6 new building in London may be of interest, count the number and sequence of windows .

  • Wretched Infidel

    Well, I did’nt get a chance to reply to any more, thank you Saber, Thank you Beef, thank you Room, thank you Mayhem, hostile wrena nd fuzzzy… cthey are closing up here again

  • jake1st

    Since when do Christians have tarot card readings?

    • Wretched Infidel

      they are not supposed to. But we need to define the term Christian. Many Satanists will tell you they are also Christians. Many Wiccans will say this too. But they know the diff is that you think they are telling you they believe in the Biblcial Messiah, when they believe in another one. Christ to them is only another aspect of the triune God they know he has three aspects, a father, a mother and a baby reborn at the Solstice. Well, come to think of it, you Christians who hold the bible as your ostensible authority and do not believe what it tells you, believe what these people do too. You believe in a triune Godhead, you believe your saviour was born at December 25, and you believe (some of you anyway) his mother was a Goddess or queen of heaven, or at the very least, you say ‘In the name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit” which the priesthood have always understood is feminine in their religion.

      You have all no problem with any of this, right? Then you are in the same religion as Satanists and Wiccans. Go to see the list of what is happening festivities-wise surrounding the solstice and Yule, or Christ-child birth, December 25, in London and around. Written by ‘a bad witch.’ She or he took down my first comment wherein I said,
      Wow. Yesiree, Christians take a hint. Stop worshipping your enemy, now, please”.

      They took it down. I guess they ddidn’t want you to see the Goddess/Horned God as your enemy. For they love this Being. But so do you, – don’t you? you are proving that you do, this December 25 and all up to then by preparing for the birth of Christ.

      So… either stop, or stop denying the facts.

      • Wretched Infidel

        I am sorry – it is up there on the Pagan Events over Yule in and near London thread. But they did take down another one on one of the other threads like that.

  • Mister Fred

    Well….. It’s today….. :roll:

    Still waiting…. yet again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Wretched Infidel

    tHANK YOU WTX. Why don’t Christians read John? It is made so CRYSTAL CLEAR THE FATHER IS SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT FROM THE SON.

    THEY ARE NOT THE SAME BEINGS. THEY ARE SEPARATE, AND THAT MAKES THEM TWO BEINGS IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT!

    Praise IAUE you see this. Yahuweh the Father (IAUE) and The Word, Yahushua, (carries The Father’s Name, the Father Who Sent Him, He says moreover)

    So, Chrirstians can not honestly carry their bibles and still say they are One Being in Two guises.

    that is Satanism, Christians. pure, classic Satanism 101.

    cHRISTIANS – DO YOU SEE THIS IS HORRIBLE? DO YOU CARE? PLEASE read John, there is many more verses clear that even an idiot can understand these, and they agree with the rest of the many places in the bible about this.

    the ‘Mystery of the Trinity’ is indeed a mystery. What is iniquity? Deep evil. the ‘Mystery of Iniquity’ is spoken of by Yah/IAUE in the Bible. It is deep, deep evil. In spritual, religious circles of the highest influence over mankind.

    The Mystery of the Trinity, as Catholic Church calls it, is ‘niot to be understood’ but ‘only obeyed’. WTF

    tHE BIBLE, on the OTHER HAND, IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO TRINITY. THAT IS A DOCTRINE OF PURE BABYLONIAN INIQUITOUS MYSTERY RELIGION. TRINITY = SATANIC DOCTRINE ONLY, NOT BIBLE.

  • Wretched Infidel

    Saber, thank you very much from my heart. You are one kind man and very intelligent.

    because you have studied diligently for a LONG TIME.

    People, when you see Saber’s name, READ AND LEARN…PLEASE

    May Yahueh’s blessings be rained down upon you and your family and loved ones Saber – always

  • Wretched Infidel

    One more thing I forgot to add, which is the most obvious answer to Anonymous’ litany of errors.

    You reject Yahushua the Messiah? Because you do not do what he asked/said, and you DO the very things he and his Father, Yahuweh, said not to do. Like you 1) ignore their real names. Why do you dishonour them this personally-insulting and rejecting way? Would you like it if you had a good name, anonymous, and instead, people called you (who said they loved you) by the name of your enemies every time they talked of you and to you? Would you be insulted or mad at that – you have asked them to use your own name, the real one, the one that identifies you as YOU – AND YOUR NATURE – and they still laugh and say, ‘Whatever, it doesn’t matter we call you the name of your enemies all the time, because you know we are all talking about YOU ” (like this is a nasty insult, anonymous, to you personally, you would probably feel like punching their faces the next time you heard your enemies names to your face, right? Why do you reject their real name? And why do you instead, accept the many names of the Solar Deity and use them correctly, and practice exactly what Solar God doctrine is, perfectly?

    Your True, Real Hebrew (from the tribe of Judah) Messiah sent by IAUE (Yahuweh, Yahweh) condemned the Jews of his time the Rabbis of his temple – the leaders of religion – (take note of this, anonymous – are your leaders any less responsible for the same sin?)
    for rejecting and ignoring His Father, His Father’s words, Ways, the Torah, the Prophets, the commandments and teachings of IAUE –
    and instead, KEEPING THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS DOCTRINES AND TRADITIONS OF MEN.

    He said they were liars and hypocrites. Are your preachers and ministers not the same for teaching YOU lies and evil doctrines of the enemy God, like those Rabbis were condemned as liars and hypocrites, children of Satan? What is the difference, Anonymous.

    To accept a false Christ is not a good difference. The Jews under traditional Messiah-rejecting, Father IAUE-rejecting religion of men, inspired of Satan, reject Yah’s truths and Messiah.

    You and your Christian leaders under traditional Messiah and Father-rejecting religion of men, inspired of Satan, reject Yah as well just like those Jewish leaders. And you reject Messiah too.

    But you take it even further than they do: You not only reject the Messiah like they do, you have adored ANOTHER in his place. Who is worse?

    I think it is a toss-up, don’t you? They have been taught more truth, have all the history personally given to them, shown them as a people.

    You as Christians have their mistakes to learn from, and know the scriptures of the Messiah, which they do not all learn of. You are kind of worse than the stiff-necked Jews, Dude.

  • Mister Fred

    December 17th……
    tap….tap….tap…. :roll:
    Still waiting…..

    What happened? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Wretched Infidel

    Dear Beef Supreme

    I am sorry I do not have enough time to do justice to the points that you bring up, which need to be addressed, but for now, i’ll try to put into writing (as I am still very worn down from these responses and non-responses on this board… and others) some of the many points which come to mind.

    When you said “BEEF SUPREME
    W.A.

    One quick note on the names:

    ישועה = SALVATION and is pronounced ‘yeshua’

    ‘YESHU’ as a contraction means ‘may his name be blotted out. This is often the spelling and pronunciation by which the Talmuds seek to besmirch and tarnish.

    ‘Yeshua’ or the contracted form of Yehoshua (Joshua), Y’shua should not be seen as objectionable according all the evidence I have seen.”

    As you know, the Israelites had already rejected The Name of the Father (and of course, the rejection of His Son came later, and that, with the son’s name, which has the Father’s name in it) before they went into captivity. That was the REASON for their captivity. But after the end of the captivity, they returned (well not all of them, but the ones who did return) to the land of their fathers given to them long ago with Babylonian-priesthood-inspired prohbitions against pronouncing the Name properly. This is against the Bible, and of course is against IAUE Himself. To negate someone’s name on this earth is to refuse to allow his or her identity, and is to try to remove their identity from them, to obfuscate the real I.D. of that person, or to mislead and can also be done for an insult to that person, to lessen the importance of or to degrade the dignity of that human being. To use nicknames instead of a person’s name is alright for people, if they are not evil people, and if they are not used to degrade them, for ease of pronunciation if it is alright by the person being called another name. But for the Almighty Creator of the Universe, it seems bad to me to presume to change His name into another one, just because of ________ (we want to, we like it more because we are used to it, our leaders want us to, all the other people use that name, or we secretly do admire another God whose whole agenda is to degrade the Almighty IAUE, or we are so influenced by the God of this world already that it is ingrained in our very DNA to hold an aversion towards this other Spirit Who Abraham heard and followed out of Sumer. (and out of that God’s domain, the Triune Godhead we know as ‘God’, “The Father, Son and Holy Spirit/Ghost’ today.
    Abraham knew this was an entirely different spirit, and he was led into truths which were not known or followed in Sumer. And by his faith in following this Other Spirit, His Creator, we all live as we are.

    You feel that if a word means ‘salvation’ that it is therefore equal to the Name of Yahuweh. (IAUE). It is not, of course, anything near it. So therefore – I don’t understand why you would think it is alright with IAUE for us to use another name for His Son, Who carries His Name.

    Why do you think this is alright?
    As you know, Beef, the false saviour is also known thru history as the Saviour. The Deliverer, The Emancipator, The King, The Lord of Heaven, The Annointed One, so I do not understand your points above

    Why would this be alright? With men, of course, it is ‘alright’ but who are these men? They do not have the authority to change the Name of the Creator Father. Or His Son, The Word, the Messiah, Yahushua. Or even Yahshua; the Father’s name IAUE is seen in that Y-A-H so it is there. But to change it to a noun they say means ‘savlation’ is not good since it is not identifying YAHUWEH, OR YAHSHUA. It is not his name. Bcause the Rabbis didnt’ want to say the name properly, does that set a proper precedent for us not to say the name He told us to say and use reverently and properly? Hell no. It is just the more reason to attempt in all ways to use and say the Name properly, to not make the same presumptuous sin as those Rabbis did, and all in their atempt to honour and worship another. You do know th Rabbis did not worship IAUE, Beef, right? They were worshipping the Adversary, like Christians and Jews today still do.

    Why is that? Because we put more importance on man’s laws and traditions and customs than IAUE’s commandments and clearly stated directives for our worship of Him, in Spirit and in Truth?

    You have not mentioned that the Yesh sound (coming from the Rabbis refusal to pronounce the Name of Yahuweh/IAUE – in their honouring instead their father, the devil, the horned one, the goat god, (Molech, Baal, Chiun, Remphan, Saturn, etc.) is also even more damaging because of the word ‘Goat’ being pronounced Eeais, Eyais, Eyaish, Eyaiz. And I wondered why you didn’t acknowledge this in your post above. Had you not read it? I know my replies can be too long to read sometimes but I cannot get here more frequently to make shorter replies more easily to address all the points, Beef Supreme.

    Like would you be angry, being a man who introduced himsefl as Beef Supreme and they all refused to address you this way and called you always something else, like Salad Supreme, or Vegetable Supreme, Even Super Vegetable Platter. You may take it as a joke for a while, but you would eventually become angry if they didn’t let off because it is a sign of severe disrepsect. I can call you Beef when I am writing to save time sometimes, and I hope you do not mind, because I use Beef Supreme in full other times. I never call you Salad. Even Supreme Salad Leader and Strong Man Who Eats Salad. Because I do not want to do that. Your name is as you want it, it is your identity. But calling you Beef for short sometimes is different for a human being. we are not on the same level as the Creator Father of the entire Universe, so, I would never call Him something other than his full name, just out of respect, awe, and fear of not pleasing and loving him enough. We never should do this. It is a sign of sheer and utter arrogance to assume it is proper to call our Creator Father, Whose Name is of utter, complete vital excruciating importance to Him, His Son, and to us, He said this. It is the key to salvation. Which was taken out by you know the lying Church Fathers after the Rabbis did the same thing in the first place. Why do they do this? And keep on doing this same evil sin? Any substitute for the Real Name is bound to lead to bad and terrible things, for the spirit world is listening, and responding and to do this is not only dangerous to us, but increases the energy of the Adversarial God who is being honoured every time we degrade and detract from IAUE’s truths. Every damn time. This is serious, Beef Supreme.

    • Mayhem

      It’s heartening to see you taking this discussion seriously, Wretched Infidel. Usually these debates suffer from a goldfish mentality. Oh my but have you consumed my thoughts these last few days.

      You vex me greatly and i cannot fathom the lesson as presented. Not what you are teaching, that’s not the lesson, you and i are just incidental to the lesson that YHWH Elohim would have us learn.

      If you will pay me small respect i will presently share these thoughts here. I’ll be a few hours as it takes a while for my Messenger to get back from my Editor in Chief with the many revisions.

    • Wretched Infidel

      Just needed to clarify one vital thing above that people may not understand because I left out the two vital words that were ‘another name’ from that run-on sentence.

      Of course it is alright to call our Father Creator IAUE Father. I did it above, and frequently, which people here who have read many of the comments I make hopefully already know. But the direct object, or the main point of that sentence above I forgot to put in trying to type it too fast… this happens often and I am sorry if anyone was confused.

      As long as you make it clear WHICH Mighty One you are calling upon, when you say ‘Father’, or ‘My Father’, by not denying His NAME which is important in the spirit world, there should be no danger in sometimes calling out just ‘Father’ when referring to IAUE your Father Creator.

      I hope this is clear…
      point: Do not ever call Him by ANOTHER NAME (especially one known to be wrong already, and moreover, any name already used in Solar Deity’s worship). That is the height of arrogance, and we will be held to account for that sin, big-time, because it is at the root of this problem we have, in presuming we have the right to change the Name of the Creators and still be given mercy by them.

      It is coming, for Israel, watch for the beginning of the breaking of the pride of our power completely to start after Christmas morning’s abominations have been completed … any time after that, Israel (America, Western Europe, Israel the nation) need to be expecting the fulfillment of the prophecies upon us.

  • Wretched Infidel

    Saber,

    My mistake, I am still learning. I gave you far too much credit and benefit of the doubt when you stood up for the truths I posted to the man who you were replying to. I thought since you knew they were true, and stood up for the truth, on here, which is not going to win you many friends, you were brave and also kind. And I also presumed wrongly that you had studied a LOT.

    You still need to study. There are books you should study, but The Name is all out there, all over the internet, and I don’t hae time to fully explain to you, nor am I inclined to waste much time on someone who has insulted me without cause, without explanation and implies that I am lying about anything, including my gender. That is just flat-out bizarre, Saber. I don’t know what’s making you think in this weird way, but I cannot stay and try to reason with someone who is clearly not kind and clearly has problems with either women, or me for some personal reason quite unknown, for you know nothing about me. Something’s not straight with your seeming interest in truth; now I realize that just because some person/people seem to like truths does not make them total seekers of truth, of all truths. For instance it is like Hitler. Hitler spent years digging up facts and truths, which supported his view of the world. In that regard, Hitler liked facts. He liked particular truths. But Hitler was a bad man, an evil, vile and completely Satanic man; Satan also makes use of truths, Saber, as we are shown all the time, mixing truths with lies so well that he thinks he will achieve the ruin and damnation of the whole world. And he has, and continues to do that, with his blend of truths with lies.

    So people as you can see, Saber is knowledgable in many things, more than most Christians are. In other things, he is lacking the basic facts of history, The Name, and needs to study much more to get this before its too late for him. And as you can see, Saber is – NOT a kind man at all from his comments above.

    Thank you for the lesson in not presuming kindness, or benignity, just because someone acknowledges the truths you may present to them.

    This is weird to me though. It seems a contradiction. People have many motives for using or accepting or acknowledging truth I guess. Not always for the sheer love of goodness.

    • Wretched Infidel

      OH, PLEASE FORGIVEME SABER. I don’t know how but I confused you with making the comments someone else, above, ahem, Mayhem it was – made to me, I do not know why because you do not sound alike in your comments. So please take down that whole tirade above addresssed to you, because it is all one huge and terrible mistake on my stupid part. … how can I redeem myself ever in SAber’s eyes, I am ferklempt, past perplexed. That is the reason why those comments above from Mayhem hurt so much, because I some point equated your names together/confused your comments as coming from one person. And it didn’t make sense, you see my apparent struggle with this above – it is like Saber became another person, did a flip, but that was because it IS another person, it is Mayhem! MAYHEM. tHIS IS all YOUR FAULT, (!@!!!) see what I did because of your unfriendly comments to me? I insulted the one friend I had on here because of your confusing comments! jus kidding, this is all my own fault, not yours at all, Mayhem. I do not care what you say against me, Mayhem, very much, but I did care because I thought somehow it were Saber making those replies.

      I need sleep, badly. I am not able to sleep or even think properly the last 3 days. Nightmares, headaches, (right now, will not leave) and so this is another lesson – do not come here with no sleep for days and expect to get it right. I am so sorry Saber, will you please overlook the above

      People – BELIEVE WHAT SABER SAYS, WHATEVER HE SAYS. WHAT I SAID WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TO SOMEONE ELSE. MY MISTAKE…i am going now … to another sleepless nightmaring night of abject misery.

      • Mayhem

        Hold on a moment, Wretched Infidel, can you point out where i was unkind? We can go there if you would lead the way.

        Now, WI, you condescend to say… “There are books you should study”… and i absolutely agree with this. Collectively these books are called Scripture.

      • Mayhem

        … and thanks for comparing me to Hitler by the way.

  • Mayhem

    The debate with Wretched Infidel revolves around the name used for God and Jesus. Many have learned that those names should be distasteful to believers on The Word. Just as they are, rightly, distasteful to Father and Messiah. But whats in a name? Everything.

    Also: Wretched Infidel suggests that using the title “Father” is a cop out. Eh? We are commanded to call no one “Father” but Him. As it is written by Matthew in ch23v9 but just as an aside look at what Moses was inspired to write in Exodus 20:12. Hmm? What i hope is being noticed is that there are things about which we must admit our knowledge is uncertain. According to my studies there is every possibility that the ‘a’ and ‘e’ in Yahweh are the construct of man. We put them there and don’t really know that they belong. All we know is YHWH or IAUE.

    Here goes with the over explaining that i detest as much as any other; i’m not saying i call Him whatever i like but that he knows what is in my heart. Yes? He will know when He is being disrespected. We are in agreement, Wretched Infidel, in that we wish to know His Name and to use it reverently but you cannot say you have it for it was succesfully taken from us and now, we are left guessing.

    Having said all that i only now arrive at the crux of what vexes me regarding you, Wretched Infidel, and that is the ‘why’ of it all. If a reader presumes i’m correct and that there is some conjecture, regarding His name, then what is the point of getting all hung up on this? Is it your purpose to drive a wedge and formulate disparity needlessly? I have to wonder.

    Lets look at the evidence: You’ve certainly been prolific on this topic, you use strawman arguments, you readily drag conversation down to the personal level. When being tasked you pull the sympathy card and yet you obviously know your stuff and paraphrase the message accurately. What gives?

  • Mayhem

    The debate with Wretched Infidel revolves around the names used for God and Jesus. Many have learned that those names should be distasteful to believers on The Word. Just as they are distasteful to Father and Messiah. Also: Wretched Infidel suggests that using the title “Father” is a cop out. Eh? We are commanded to call no one “Father” but Him. As it is written by Matthew in ch23 v9 but just as an aside look at what Moses was inspired to write in Exodus 20:12. Hmm? But whats in a name? Everything.

    What i hope is being noticed is that there are things about which we must admit our knowledge is uncertain. According to my studies there is every possibility that the ‘a’ and ‘e’ in Yahweh are the construct of man. We put them there and don’t really know that they belong. All we know is YHWH or IAUE.

    Here goes with the over explaining that i detest as much as any other but you insist on reading between the lines. I’m not saying i call Him whatever i like but that he knows what is in my heart. Yes? He will know when He is being disrespected. We are in agreement, Wretched Infidel, in that we wish to know His Name and to use it reverently but you cannot say you have it for it was successfully taken from us and now, we are left guessing.

    Having said all that i only now arrive at the crux of what vexes me regarding you, Wretched Infidel, and that is the ‘why’ of it all. If a reader presumes i’m correct and that there is some conjecture, regarding His name, then what is the point of getting all hung up on this? Is it your purpose to drive a wedge and formulate disparity needlessly? I have to wonder.

    Lets look at the evidence: You’ve certainly been prolific on this topic, you use straw-man arguments, you readily drag conversation down to the personal level. When being tasked you pull the sympathy card and yet you obviously know your stuff and paraphrase the message accurately. What gives?

  • Mayhem

    The debate with Wretched Infidel revolves around the names used for God and Jesus. Many have learned that those names should be distasteful to believers on The Word. Just as they are distasteful to Father and Messiah. Also: Wretched Infidel suggests that using the title “Father” is a cop out. Eh? We are commanded to call no one “Father” but Him. As it is written by Matthew in ch23 v9 but just as an aside look at what Moses was inspired to write in Exodus 20:12. Hmm? But whats in a name? Everything.

    What i hope is being noticed is that there are things about which we must admit our knowledge is uncertain. According to my studies there is every possibility that the ‘a’ and ‘e’ in Yahweh are the construct of man. We put them there and don’t really know that they belong. All we know is YHWH or IAUE.

    Here goes with the over explaining that i detest as much as any other but you insist on reading between the lines. I’m not saying i call Him whatever i like but that he knows what is in my heart. Yes? He will know when He is being disrespected. We are in agreement, Wretched Infidel, in that we wish to know His Name and to use it reverently but you cannot say you have it for it was successfully taken from us and now, we are left guessing.

    Having said all that i only now arrive at the crux of what vexes me regarding you, Wretched Infidel, and that is the ‘why’ of it all. If a reader presumes i’m correct and that there is some conjecture, regarding His name, then what is the point of getting all hung up on this? Is it your purpose to drive a wedge and formulate disparity needlessly? I have to wonder.

    Lets look at the evidence: You’ve certainly been prolific on this topic, you use straw-man arguments, you readily drag conversation down to the personal level. When being tasked you pull the sympathy card and yet you obviously know your stuff and paraphrase the message accurately. What gives?

  • Mayhem

    I’ve written half a book but having trouble posting it. I roughed it out on note pad and copy/pasted it just as i have done many times. I’m posting merrily on other threads, no problems. Whats up?

    • Mayhem

      Oops there they are, hopefully Webby can tidy that up for me, i won’t look quite so stupid if they would.

  • Wretched Infidel

    There is no debate. I am not arguing. I am presenting to the readers facts, historically-proven and provable. There is nothing left to conjecture about IAUE’s name, it is historical record if any person cares to look into it. But one will probably not wholeheartedly look into it honestly, fully, and accept the proven facts, as simple as they are, if you secretly fear the findings, and if you harbour a hatred of truth itself. The Name comes from paleo-Hebrew 4 VOWELS which men changed later into YHWH and this was by the device of the sons of the evil one to keep people from knowing it. To cause confusion and dissembling, which we see here so plainly, thousands of years later!?

    There is no confusion when you assemble the facts, which others have already done. You can do the same, because ‘what one man can do, another man can do TOO!’ (Anthony Hopkins’ character _________ in movie The Edge) “i AM GOING TO KILL THE BEAR!”

    A pattern here has emerged, sadly, with Mr. May’s (above) dissembling with me. You put forth a bit of truth, (like Hitler did) and then ignore it and refuse to acknowledge the truth, focusing on the lies of Christian design to get us to believe that there is no way we can find out what ‘the vowel sounds really are’! LOL! Imagine the ignorance, the audacity, and the disrespect these Christian liars have for their laity, their slaves, the blood, tears and energy they feast on. This Saturnalia/Christmas being no exception, and the highlight of the year’s rituals to Satan/Saturn.

    Ha Baal, The Lord. Christ Jesus, Mithra, Tammuz, Horus (Her), the son saviour of the evil Horned God and his consort, The Goddess. All are abominations, and none care what you choose to personally call them, just as long as you do not worship IAUE, Who told us This Is His Name, and commanded us to know it and to use it. There is no logical or informed person on this thread that would believe what you said, and moreover, it would not be possible for us to know and to use it if it were not already known and proven authentic and accurately pronounced as Yah – Hoo – eh, or YAH – HU – EH/AH (an exhalation sound of the last vowel).

    This sound MUST be pronounced in the Son’s name, which is his Father’s name: YAH MUST BE PRONOUNCED whether you say the name fully as Yahushua, or more truncated, Yahshua.

    Never Ye. Only Yah.

    I hope this is clear, it is all out there, available. Anyone cares to, please read those books up there.

    The Sacred Name Yahweh by R. Clover out of Covina California, Qadesh la Yahweh Press
    and
    Come Out of Her, My People, by C. J. Koster, out of South Africa

    and of course, Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons.

    Pix, please, tell them that quote….Cumont, : Mithra is Jesus. Please Pix, Thank you very very much
    Read, learn, be honest, be safe, be happy…Shalom Peace Out

  • Wretched Infidel

    http://web.eecs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/Saturnalia.html

    There is no real way (or honest way) to celebrate the birth of the Solar Babe saviour-impostor, and his mother, the Goddess, and the Solar Deity Father (who have many names, this is ‘kosher’ by Satan’s rules) this December 24/25… this is an ongoing festival dedicated from at least the Solstice itself to Christmas and sometimes after it a few days, dedicated to the God of Death.

    The Horned God and Goddess are NOT our friends, people, so why are you celebrating your own death/destruction, en masse? You see how you always fall into line, you go to the Mall en masse, you sing the carols in unison, you light the candles and set the Pentagram atop your Yule Tree, or light the blasing Yule Log (child of the Sun God) as you are programmed to do.

    It does make you think of the song Pix put here, Hotel California. You can check in any time you like, ..( but they make it so strong a hex that it makes you almost helpless) But ‘You can never leave!” (a lie).

    But you can. You must. You cannot ignore the challenge by Satan, and the truth of Yahushua/Yahshua, from Yahuweh/IAUE/YHWH Himself: The gates of Hell shall not prevail..
    He can and will help you out of this hell called the happy celebration of ‘your Saviour’.

    Christ Jesus is NOT YAHUSHUA THE MESSIAH of the Bible. Read, learn, prove and double-check and you will know the truth is as I have said here and even more alarming than I am able to put here. You need to do this yourselves. I will attempt to return but seriously, do not wait for that, just stop Christmas now – and study these facts for yourselves and your loved ones and neighbors. According to the Bibles you hold, this is the whole duty of man.

    We are here to help each other. We are all in the same sinking boat. WE made this mess because of the Deity we choose so far to serve; destruction is what we get and will continue to receive if we do not reject this God/dess/false saviour Christ Jesus Mithra Horus Lucifer.
    he hates you, they all 3 hate you all, and you are being willing fools by following them singing their praises as you are led to the slaughter.

    Mr. May (ahem I do not want to say your handle.. it is a curse upon this people here) you make me laugh… you say straw man, and ‘play the sympathy card’ ?!
    Tell me one straw man… all are facts you want to deride with baseless accusations. Name one
    I tell the truth, and I do not play games. That is what disgusts me about people here. They say they love truth, but most really do not want any truth at all. But they pretend and know how to pretend it very glibly.
    And if I wanted sympathy, which I do not, (I just want you all to know the truth) I would expect sympathy sooner from a pack of hyenas … not you guys. Seriously, but most of you do wear me out, and I do not want to worry about you any more. So I try not to, but – I know you are ignorant and you have been initiated for decades into this horrible religion, (Satanism – I won’t even be euphemistic and say “Pagan” it is not that, it is Satanic in nature all the way, and they LAUGH AT YOU FOR THIS CELEBRATION, BELIEVE ME, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU ALL RIGHT NOW AS YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY FOR THEIR GOD AND HIS ENERGY IS RAISED BY YOUR SUFFERING AND INSUFFERABLE PRIDEFULNESS.

    So either join the Satanists as they sacrifice your children (honestly) or reject it all. Saturnalia calls your name… add it to the roster of those slated for the 2/3 death, or become brave and be honest with yourselves and your family and friends. This is the time, people. Make the right decision now, or forever be ashamed of your beloved hypocrisy.

  • Wretched Infidel

    http://web.eecs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/Saturnalia.html
    “Saturnalia

    or

    Brumalia

    A Winter Solstice Ritual”

    Your chosen God, The God of Death and destruction.
    There are several options for the date on which to hold the Saturnalia:
    According to Julian Date (Dec. 17)
    In the Julian calendar, the Saturnalia took place on Dec. 17; it was preceded by the Consualia (Dec. 15) and followed by the Opalia (Dec. 19). The celebrations typically lasted for a week (Dec. 17-23), ending just before the (late imperial) festival for Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun) on Dec. 25 (the Solstice in the pre-Julian calendar). Before the reforms of Julius Caesar, the Saturnalia and Opalia may have been on the same day (14 before the Kalends of Jan.).
    According to Solstice (Dec. 21)
    At one time Dec. 17, the Julian date of the Saturnalia, was the first day of Capricornus, marking the coldest season. Since the sun now enters Capricorn on Dec. 21, the Solstice, it would be appropriate to celebrate the Saturnalia on the Solstice; the seven days of celebration would then end Dec. 27.
    According to Christmas Season (Dec. 25)
    The week of Saturnalian celebrations fits nicely into the Christmas-New Year week, with the Saturnalia falling on Christmas day. A variant of this is: Consualia (Dec 21/solstice), Saturnalia (Dec 24/Xmas Eve – so gifts come after ritual), Opalia (Dec 26 or 27); Saturnalia celebrations (Dec 25- 31); Lesser Dionysia (Dec 31/New Year’s Eve); then Roman New Year celebrations.

    IAUE (Yahweh) forbids this worship, and the God Kronos/Molech/Saturn IS AN ABOMINATION

  • Wretched Infidel

    His sign/symbol is the Star which you place on your beloved Yule Tree. Christians, in unison, worshipping Satan and Satan’s child, he got thru the degradation and humiliation of the mother, Eve, Hua.

    Cain, Chiun, Molech, Remphan, images and stars of… forbidden, all abominations. Get real people

  • Wretched Infidel

    not to mention the degradation and humiliation of her husband, Adam. And then, all their children, and their descendants. You. All of us. Ezwatchman says ‘Jesus have mercy on your soul” to the truth above… NO, IAUE HAVE MERCY ON ALL OF US NOW. And may He and Yahushua’s Spirit of Truth, Life and Love lead you OUT of Jesus’ worship (the Godhead of Father, Mother and Son) and INTO THE TRUTH AND WORSHIP OF IAUE.

  • Mister Fred

    Well….. that day has come and gone….. :roll:

    Want to guess again?

    Perhaps another story? :wink:

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • Wretched Infidel

      A Winter Solstice Ritual

      Your chosen God, The God of Death and destruction.
      There are several options for the date on which to hold the Saturnalia:
      According to Julian Date (Dec. 17)
      In the Julian calendar, the Saturnalia took place on Dec. 17; it was preceded by the Consualia (Dec. 15) and followed by the Opalia (Dec. 19). The celebrations typically lasted for a week (Dec. 17-23), ending just before the (late imperial) festival for Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun) on Dec. 25 (the Solstice in the pre-Julian calendar). Before the reforms of Julius Caesar, the Saturnalia and Opalia may have been on the same day (14 before the Kalends of Jan.).
      According to Solstice (Dec. 21)
      At one time Dec. 17, the Julian date of the Saturnalia, was the first day of Capricornus, marking the coldest season. Since the sun now enters Capricorn on Dec. 21, the Solstice, it would be appropriate to celebrate the Saturnalia on the Solstice; the seven days of celebration would then end Dec. 27.
      According to Christmas Season (Dec. 25)
      The week of Saturnalian celebrations fits nicely into the Christmas-New Year week, with the Saturnalia falling on Christmas day. A variant of this is: Consualia (Dec 21/solstice), Saturnalia (Dec 24/Xmas Eve – so gifts come after ritual), Opalia (Dec 26 or 27); Saturnalia celebrations (Dec 25- 31); Lesser Dionysia (Dec 31/New Year’s Eve); then Roman New Year celebrations.

      ROMAN NEW YEAR’S CELEBRATIONS December 31/January 1

      January has a number of things which should worry you Mr. Rogers and all who like to smirk at this.
      No one was saying that December 16 was going to be the end of the world. Didn’t you read anything about this?
      We have received signs in the heavens, and they are not empty promises.

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