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Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers

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By: Ron Baitley-Simens
 on 3rd March 2014 @ 9.21am

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A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible.
John Lear, the son of Learjet inventorBill Lear, has given his expert evidence that it would have been physically impossible for Boeing 767s, like Flights AA11 and UA175 to have hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, particularly when flown by inexperienced pilots:
‘No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors’, he stated in the affidavit.
‘Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted, for the following reasons: in the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun ‘telescoping’ when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center.
‘The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

 

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    • Anonymous This comment has received too many negative votes.Show
      • MastaWes

        um, did u not get the “official story”? the pilots were the terrorists! they spent 10 years training and becoming pilots, or so were told. personally, I think the planes were remote controlled and ran into the buildings.

        • TonysTake This comment has received too many negative votes.Show
        • upchuck

          Stupidity has just reached an all time high, just like the market. Is this coincidence? I think not, it’s the new norm, where up is down and down is up. It’s called fraud, its so BAD we have CIA agents lying. This guy definetly has serious (NPD) Narcisstic Personality Disorder.

        • simboliza

          This is totally funny :lol:

        • upchuck

          Crank up the volume on the first video below. Does that sound like a plane or missile? Secondly. those planes would have cut right through the glass like butter. Does anyone know how many lumens it would take to project a hologram?

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IE82r4ycQs4

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOwttgBpzE

        • londoner

          troll

        • Truthseeker007

          Ever hear of holograms and project bluebeam? Though I’m not sure if planes really hit or not it is a possibility that holograms were used.

        • upchuck

          And more proof. Come on people do a little research, these are eyewitness accounts who saw it with their own eye’s.

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0

        • Mirabolin

          @TonysTake

          But MastaWes isn’t denying that the planes flew into the buildings. If you can’t retain a black white sentence for the leangth it takes you to respond to it what trust should anyone have in your judgement?

      • Tribe of DAN

        Hey anonymous rocket-scientist- No Plane Parts No Plans. Get It?…Or, did the nearly indestructible parts get vaporized along with the rest of the buildings? burned to dust by “jet fuel”?

        • Tribe of DAN

          Sorry, I hate spelling errors. Meant No Plane Parts-No PlanEs.

        • Tribe of DAN

          …no plane parts-no planEs…

        • Confederate

          “Indestructible parts”! Really! Aluminum is Indestructible because that is what these things are made of. High grade “aircraft aluminum”, which I can melt in my back yard with an electric foundry which gets to 2000 degrees! Aluminum starts to melt at 1100 degrees!

        • Corporate Slave #010699-501C-3

          Confederate got it right. keep it right. I got your email. :smile:

        • stompk

          I believe they were modified A-3 Skywarrior aircraft. I used to work on them in the Navy. They could reach supersonic without afterburner, unique in the aircraft world. They were built like tanks, since they were meant to land on carriers.

          Many people agree. Also the A-3 was being phases out at the time, so it would have been easy to make of couple of them go missing.

        • Mayhem

          It’s possible i suppose but it would be the very first time in history that a civilian plane has crashed into anything without leaving clearly identifiable pieces scattered about. Often times these remnants are taken to a storage facility and the whole plane damn near laid out in a big plane pattern.

          Tribe of Dan is telling it like it is, not what you lot want it to be.

        • TimeForTruth

          Tribe of Donkey, It was remote controlled military planes that hit the towers and melted to nothing from Thermite and Directed Energy Weapons , hence the Lava flowing out from the sides of the buildings. Just an air to ground bomb to make a hole in the ground in Shanksville Pa. and no plane hit the Pentagone, just a Cruise Missile. Its over 12 years later, time to wake up people. They stole $700 Billion in gold from the towers to pay for 22 years of war (Iraq & Afghanistan war cost $500 Million a year) so they can steal the last 20 years of oil in the region. Thanks to HAARP they know who has what in the ground. Now how much world control will the EuroUSA have when half the world is out of oil and needs them? There is so many reasons why 9/11 took place and this is just one of many but a big one.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumTBrSayqw

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy9hjB3DGk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4JjlFWGRFc

        • Richter B.

          Confederate, Dan is referring to the titanium parts in the engines and black boxes. They weren’t found at the pentagon, or Pennsylvania either. Funny how this hollow soft aluminum fuselage you speak of can make a hole in the side of the Pentagon but two high density, titanium containing engines can’t even dent it.

      • Anonymous

        no planes, ….missiles, fake video wakey wakey….jeeeez how gullible are you all anyway? you juscant stand it that you were duped by hollywood lol suckers walk///

        • upchuck

          Yep. I agree.. Anonymous has done his research and it’s supported by the fact no one could fly the plane unless they were properly trained. Flying a plane is similar to a surgeon operating on a patient, takes a lot of training. Not to mention, to be able to fly them almost dead center into the trade center is very difficult. They would need to be guided in via radar.

          The only reason for invading Iraq was to save the petro dollar. Sadam was about to succeed in replacing the petro dollar. All we did was buy ourselves more time. Tick tok doc,, What a sick world. The emperor doesn’t have any clothes!

      • Anonymous

        The Pilots were over taken by the Terrorists after breaking into the Cabin and given Head Sets to block their vision. These are the same Head Sets used to train Pilots when low visibility flying instruments only. The Terrorists would have given precise instrument flying orders to the Pilots, it’s not rocket science to figure out just use your brain. To think otherwise is a false thought process and to a conspiracy that is not true. The Terrorists did not have the technical know how to operate these Air Crafts and so you must be a detective of sorts in your thinking.
        The Pilots had a Box Cutter held to their throats and the terrorists only had to watch the instruments to keep the Planes on track to hit the buildings. Sorry to blow up your conspiracy but it’s just not real!!!!!

        • ipod45

          and how many hour do you have flying commercial planes?

        • truthzilla

          I knew the pilot of the supposed second plane- Mike Horrocks- personally. He was about 6’5″ and a former Marine…Those little malnourished rag heads would have gotten their butts beaten…Prior to 9/11 our guards were down because we had never had something like that happen…There are stories from the ground crew that those “terrorist” were escorted on the plane prior to take off and were in the cockpit being shown around…Most likely, everybody was rendered unconscious and the planes flown by wire.

        • Anonymous

          And the Pentagon? How do you fit an airliner into a 16′ hole with no other damage by the wings? No meat wagons. No engines. No landing gear. No tail section. No fireball.

      • upchuck

        Honestly all theories are valid until proven otherwise. Crank up the volume on the first video below. Does that sound like a plane or missile? The Physics argument is also valid, those planes would have cut right through the glass like butter. Does anyone know how many lumens it would take to project a hologram?

        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IE82r4ycQs4

        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOwttgBpzE

    • mfritz0

      It’ll probably be shown that the planes seen hitting the towers were in fact holographic projections that once they were projected to hit the building they signaled the controlled demolition. Those evil people demolished those buildings with all those people inside of them.

      • Tribe of DAN

        …pretty sure thousands didn’t die…

      • Pateriot

        It goes even deeper than that! The twin towers were fake. The government has been having actors and actresses going in and out all day to make it look as if it was a real building. They have been doing this since the 1970s in prep for the false flag event on 9/11/2001, when they faked hijacked planes full of people to crash into the buildings. That is also why the holographic planes were able to bring down the towers so easily. They weren’t real!! All of the false flag event was so we could invade Iraq, lose a few thousand American lives, and then to pull out and let the Islamists have it back!

        Either that or we are to believe that Islamists hijacked jets full of people, slammed them into the twin towers, which ultimately catastrophically failed and collapsed killing thousands of people. But who would believe that story? It’s just plain CRAZY!!!

        I think that New York City just might be a false flag hologram with actors and actresses. As a matter of fact I think the whole world might be faked by the CIA…except you and me of course… and I’m not so sure about you!!!

        • FaSolLa

          You rock!

        • TimeForTruth

          Pateriot, you sir are a joke and a paid troll! It was remote controlled military planes that hit the towers and melted to nothing from Thermite and Directed Energy Weapons , hence the Lava flowing out from the sides of the buildings. Just an air to ground bomb to make a hole in the ground in Shanksville Pa. and no plane hit the Pentagone, just a Cruise Missile. Its over 12 years later, time to wake up people. They stole $700 Billion in gold from the towers to pay for 22 years of war (Iraq & Afghanistan war cost $500 Million a year) so they can steal the last 20 years of oil in the region. Thanks to HAARP they know who has what in the ground. Now how much world control will the EuroUSA have when half the world is out of oil and needs them? There is so many reasons why 9/11 took place and this is just one of many but a big one.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumTBrSayqw

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy9hjB3DGk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4JjlFWGRFc

        • TimeForTruth

          You paid trolls are what is FAKE! It was remote controlled military planes that hit the towers and melted to nothing from Thermite and Directed Energy Weapons , hence the Lava flowing out from the sides of the buildings. Just an air to ground bomb to make a hole in the ground in Shanksville Pa. and no plane hit the Pentagone, just a Cruise Missile. Its over 12 years later, time to wake up people. They stole $700 Billion in gold from the towers to pay for 22 years of war (Iraq & Afghanistan war cost $500 Million a year) so they can steal the last 20 years of oil in the region. Thanks to HAARP they know who has what in the ground. Now how much world control will the EuroUSA have when half the world is out of oil and needs them? There is so many reasons why 9/11 took place and this is just one of many but a big one.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumTBrSayqw

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy9hjB3DGk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4JjlFWGRFc

        • Crimson

          It is physicaaly impossible to take down concrete reinforced steel beams with any type of damge to the top of them. Ask any engineer, not possible. The beam have to be cut. Which they were.

          Any metion of holograms is nonsence. It was military planes. The govenment knows that your average american does not think like an engineer and so would believe it if they see it. Al Qaeda is CIA and CIA trained. Osama, if he ever really existed would never be capable so such a feat. It should be obvious being that his body was never produced, but by that point, the american people were so enamored with the drama that you could shown them a dead dog and they wouldn’t have batted an eye. The problem is DNA and the government couldn’t allow anyone to perform any such test so they made up the cockery they did.

        • ravens_15

          If the planes were “holograms projections to cover up the controlled demolition” then how do you explain the life vests, portions of seats, landing gears, engine parts, and various other debris that were not only found on the roof of the Bankers Trust building, but rained down on the heads of those near the WTC along with papers and other things from the offices inside the building? And part of the landing gear from one of the aircrafts that was found at the corner of West and Rector streets, some five blocks south of the WTC complex.
          If that is not enough evidence for you, a police officer on scence came across the remains of a stewardess’s torso and hands in the debris, where she also noticed that her hands were still tired behind her back. Or was she, along with the rest of the bodies and body parts found, “fake” as well? Considering all of the factual evidence there is just no possible way for your “holographic plane theory” to be anything but bogus.

      • qaneh-bosem honestyherb

        Speaking of those “evil people”_
        who would kill and destroy as they did on a date (9/11) that corresponds to Gold and Silver ?

        Gold_atomic number=79_7x9=63__6+3= 9
        Silver_atomic number=47__4+7= 11

        • Nationcrying

          always follow the money – that leads to WHO and WHY any corrupt government would even THINK of something like this.

      • Shipton

        BINGO!, mfritz0

    • TombRaider

      I’m just not in the position to know what actually happened that day because I simply was not there.

      What I’ve always questioned is the perfect outline of the plane “cut” through the exterior of those buildings like a hot knife though butter. An airliner is a skeleton covered in thin aluminum sheet. The towers were constructed of structural steel, stainless steel, and high stress reinforced concrete…..yet even the very tip of each wing sliced easily through several inches of steel facade before contacting and penetrating its massive internal structure…

      Something’s definitely not right here…..

      • Joe Miller

        You all need to take a course in physics. The planes had a lot of kinetic energy that makes up for their fragility. As an experiment, try to press a bullet into your head. It just won’t go. Then shoot it out of a gun. You will find that it pierces the skull easily.

        • Mayhem

          We need a course in Physics? Do i hear a scientific challenge in your post, Sorgfelt?

          It is exactly the energy you mention that would have caused eg the tail fin to snap clean off the fuselage, decelerate massively as it lost directional stability and began it’s first flutter action, slap against the side of the tower and then flap all the way to the ground.

          We can do Physics, my search engine knows all about physics, Sorgfelt.

        • BassBoy

          They won’t try that experiment unfortunatly lol. They also seem to think that the towers were thick, solid steel boxes without any gaps (windows)

        • 10Splines

          Sounds logical but you are missing one fact that will shatter your super smart analysis: If you shoot a bullet in a skull, will the entire body melt away and fall on it’s own footprint? Don’t think so.

        • Mayhem

          @Bassboy… “We” do not think that at all. We do, however, know that the towers were built on the principle of double redundancy. Go twirl your head at that for a while before trying to tell us a low speed kero bomb knocked any tower into it’s own footprint.

        • TombRaider

          Have you ever heard of density or the shear strength of materials?

      • TRONRADIO

        Reminds me of straw that penetrates telephone poles during a tornado. That does occur.

    • bladerunner

      I don’t buy the official story either never did. I believe that these plains were not passenger plains, there are many documents that shows the airplanes were not passenger airplanes. But do these people really have the technology to display a hologram that is that chaotic? up in the blue sky like in a movie theatre, if so then the movie “Hunger games” can be implied too

      • fuzzy696

        You,me,we have no idea what technology the goverments of the world posses…..but this LEAR guy would know and his statement makes sense,let,s see how long it takes for a rebuttle and the truth.

        • Smedley Butler Jr.

          Lear has said some nutso things, like how all of the planets in our solar system contain intelligent life. IMO, he is most likely controlled opposition as are most of the leaders in the conspiracy field/alternative press/truther movement. Yes, there are some anomalies having to do with the two planes hitting the twin towers, but having a guy like Lear on our side doesn’t give me a feeling of hope.

          The only thing that does give me a tiny bit of hope is that it is apparent that the power elite are genuinely concerned about the public at large, else they wouldn’t spend so much time and money dumbing us down, poisoning us and propagandizing us. This indicates that the sleeping giant IS a threat to them, and that they do not, as of yet, have all of their ducks in a row (if they did, the entire planet would be like North Korea with a high tech surveillance overlay – not something to look forward to).

      • Catbirdog

        Watch this video and then tell me they don’t have the capability of creating holographic planes!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3fjjCq7S3Q

    • Antionus

      What a load of crap. Good grief people, t here are enough real problems without this lunacy.

      • superpup

        What the heck tore down two towers, spread debris all over a couple of blocks? And maybe obama is a African born president! Who is the joke on?

        • Anonymous

          THREE TOWERS !!! LETS NOT FORGET WOLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING 7 THAT JUST REMARKABLY IMPLODED IN ON ITSELF OUT OF FEAR AT SEEING THE OTHER TWO TOWERS BEING HIT BY TWO HOLOGRAPHIC PLANES !!! :twisted:

      • Red State

        Go take care of your fantasy football team. There is so much you do not know and apparently don’t want to know.

      • abnegative

        If you think all of this is a load of crap , go back to cnn , there you can get the news you want to hear. I can say this much , I have friends ex black op special forces and cia , another has been a freelance domestic/foriegn correspondant for 40yrs +Has been in most hot spots over the last 30yrs . You could not dream up what is really going on. the truth is much crazier than fiction . Yes , the US does have huge holographic capabilities , yes there was thermite used in combination with a high energy burst directed weapon in the tower attacks. 60% of the mass of the two towers is missing from the site , yes dustified . The remains onsite were molten for weeks . Jet fuel ??? come on , get real.
        The evidence is real and undisputable , you might want to read “where did the towers go ?” Dr Judy Wood. Do the science work before believing the “load of crap” asserted by the ptb.

        • upchuck

          J. Edgar Hoover -
          ” the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”

          See these men were much smarter than the narcissist leaders of today and saw this coming years ago. By the way, J was not a homosexual, it was a lie to discredit him. It’s sad that all the good leaders that stood up against the federal reserve were assassinated. This will not end well, no telling how much time is on the clock.

        • GBCIR

          Yes, and the GOOD news is:

          FREE ENERGY EXISTS. (as proven on 911 with dusty-PHI (disassociation) of matter)

          Free energy = no money required.

          Can we handle it?

          Tesla stated we are too immature.

          Government and money are immature – but tipping point was reached at least two years ago.

          The immature f’tards are plain to SEE (and conquer) these days…

      • BassBoy

        Leave the loons alone Antionus…all the while they’re worrying about this they’re leaving normal people alone!

    • crabby

      forget all this .. what somebody says , what some news casters says ,, what some offical says,,who gives a turd what someone says…

      STOP..!! LOOK FOR YOURSELVES.. FOR ONCE.. THINK FOR YOURSELVES ..

      all it was ,, after the initial hit .. jet fuel is only kerosene ..

      after only seconds of burn off ..all the fire was ,,was office paper / pencil cup / computer wire / low oxygen / acrid black smoke orange oxygen starved flame debris fire.. for an hour..

      THAT’S FACTUAL .. remember..

      the orange starved lapping flames an the black acrid smoke indicutive of a low grade fire.. remember..

      don’t need no news slickster in your ear for that .. it was right there ,remember.. an hour of it..

      ONLY AN HOUR OF IT

      where’s the white hot steel melting fire to melt the steel an the center core to drop a 100 story building perfectly in it’s own footprint .. TWICE..!!

      the burners on your stove under a much hotter blue flame doesn’t show any wear from hours of burn time an years of it.. think for yourselves ,folks..

      • M rJoe

        And you are an IDIOT.According to your theory aflame thrower should explode on the operators body as it is nothing but a burning flame at the tip of a gas tank and if a simple flame won’t melt steel then explain why and how an empty steel pot on top of a stove will melt through in less than an hour. There was NO steel core in the towers, they were designed with an exoskeleton, not steel columns inside it. And I suppose that the MILLIONS of people that witnessed the jets hitting the towers on LIVE TV were a mass illusion? How could a piece of Styrofoam BREAK a 1″ thick, one square foot piece of ceramic materiel heat-shield? Almost ALL fires you see have an orange tip which is NOT an indicator of the internal temperature of the fire. Seems to me that you are the one who should think before putting thoughts into words or better yet not type what you have no knowledge of.

        • Snufy

          Joe, please give us the explaination from your government controller as to why were the outside steel beams melted as to the exact same as they would have been cut with Thermite? Only a complete dunce would think common jet A would be able to melt steel beams.
          Why has every consulted demolition expert testified that the buildings were brought down as expertly as any of them could have done?
          Why did witnesses in the lobby testify that they heard multiple explosions before the building was struck?
          Why was building 3 pre-rigged with demolition explosives?
          Why was the building debris buried before a complete investigation done?
          What happened to the real planes and passengers?
          I’ll be interested to hear from you about these things.

        • Anonymous

          The simple fact is that jet fuel (kerosene) does not burn hot enough to melt steel. Even without the fire protection coating. And there was a central steel core column system in the towers. That’s what all the floors were cantilevered off of. Controlled demolition was the only thing that could have brought those buildings down. Especially at that speed and in its own footprint.

        • John

          firstly: there WAS a steel core…the elevators ran up and down inside it plus it had its steel skeleton…or were the elevators on strings connected to the paper walls
          secondly: fuel doesn’t explode anymore (except in Hollywood) but its vapours do and that’s why we have to aerate our fuel with a mixture of air to ignite it but liquid fuel doesn’t explode anymore since the 70′s I think…but Hollywood has a hard time letting go of that one but this would account for the explosion at impact as the fuel escaped the wing and aerated with a catalyst (probably an impact spark of metal on metal)
          thirdly: what I witnessed on TV was what everyone else witnessed on TV….what the US gov wanted us to see and nothing more….this is why the CCTV tapes were confiscated by the gov from business’s around the pentagon area and we only have those 5 frames. I never saw one engine recovered and they are made from titanium and not steel…therefore (for the dummies) no fuel could have ever melted the plane engine as the plane engine was designed to withstand the maximum temperature the fuel can attain aerated and under pressure. Where are the engines?
          Lastly: having worked as a welder and with metal for some years in my life I know that the colours of a flame DO indicate the hottest points of a flame and also if you heat metal you will also see colours in it as it cools down…indicating temperature change related to colours and depending on what temper (hardness) you want the steel is when you force a cooling in either oil or water by immersion…
          have a nice day :grin:

        • Joe Miller

          If you look at the blueprints, you will find steel columns all through the inside of the building, just another reason that these had to be controlled demolitions. Your example of the Styrofoam breaking a ceramic tile is yet another example of what adding kinetic energy to an object can do for its destructive force. I have another example. Try to press a single brad into your head. Not only will it not go, but will probably buckle as you try. Then shoot it out of a nail gun. You will find that it penetrates your skull easily.

        • LifeIs

          Mr Joe your position is untenable. The steel cores of those buildings were massive. Boxes made from steel 4 inches thick at the base of the buildings.

          (And you should wonder why the media – with one voice – told you otherwise on 9-11)

          The steel frames of skyscrapers always remain standing after a fire. Concrete floors collapse. Siding and windows fall. The steel frames remain. The steel frame of the Genbaku Dome
          remains to this day. It was directly underneath the Hiroshima bomb, and in the middle of the firestorm ignited by the bomb.

          You saw video of the SECOND impact, and the plane was in the picture for a very short period of time. That’s the plane (of some sort) that almost missed and cut through the corner of the building.

          Urethane (it wasn’t styrofoam) didn’t break the carbon-carbon (it wasn’t ceramic) on the leading edge of Columbia’s wing. Water ice from condensation on the tank did that. Yes, i know they did some experiment afterward, for some reason.

          Nobody said the plane impacts wouldn’t cut the many steel columns that were in their path. We said that the buildings collapsed in their footprints because beams and columns were cut simultaneously all around by demolition charges. And that small nukes inside those massive steel cores disintegrated much of the buildings.

          Did you “see” a plane strike WTC building 7 ? THAT tower collapsed too, you know.

        • Confederate

          I see that a lot of you idiots know nothing about melting metal! I use propane to melt iron in my home shop! I can get the temp to 2500 degrees in less than 20 minutes using a standard BBQ pit propane bottle & a squirrel cage fan. I can also heat steel to the melting point using char coal! It’s called BLACKSMITHING! I keep waiting for one of you idiots to say “this is the first time in human history that fire’s been used to melt steel”!

        • Corporate Slave #010699-501C-3

          Confederate put you to shame again.

        • Mayhem

          No he didn’t, Barf, Confederate did no such thing. He may not introduce the force feeding of air into the equation. This will not fly. I cut steel, inches thick, with propane or acetylene and HP oxygen all the day long. It’s not hard to reckon this stuff out, no need for a degree. Both the heating torch and forging example are shown to be flawed.

        • LifeIs

          Confederate, there is no case in history of the steel frame of a skyscraper collapsing due to fire.

          And like I said, the steel frame of the dome directly underneath the Hiroshima bomb survived the heat from the bomb and the heat of the firestorm. It’s still standing.

          And there was a 3 hour fire at the WTC in 1975, burned on 6 floors.

          In cases where fires burned longer, concrete floors collapse. Siding falls off. The steel frame remains.

          Windows melt before steel does. Heat escapes.

      • John

        jet fuel is NOT kerosene…jet fuel is made first and the purest burning fuel (as you cannot afford an engine stall due to poor fuel in mid-air) kerosene, however, is made from the waste that’s left over after jet fuel has been made and then car engine fuel and then lawn mower fuel and then and only then is the slow burning kerosene fuel made
        otherwise you are correct in the rest

        • zgravity

          Do you know what the API is and the API chart is as well? to me if you knew what both were you would not have made a statement like you just did. I’m an engineer and I worked with all different types of fuel and how they were distilled from crude oil. They distill all the light fuels first Including the gas that you put in your vehicle’s, it is combustible. Then the flammable fuels which are the heavier fuels we use today. What is left is the junk that we call tar. So now here is what Jet fuel is, K1 Kerosene the lightest of the heaviest of the distilled fuels. They add Octane to make it more flammable as K1 is only combustible. Octane is a by product of the distillation of crude oil and is a light oil. There is no other process to distill K1. They only put additives into it just like they put additives in K2 which is diesel fuel also known as home heating oil. So if you do not believe me then look up the API institute and see how the various fuels we use are made because you are just guessing.

        • Mayhem

          We call it Paraffin, liquid paraffin, you call it Kerosene. Some call it JetA1 it’s all the same as zgravity clearly demonstrates.

          Just like Windex (windscreen anti-fog) is methylated spirits (denatured alcohol) only much more expensive. Suckers!

        • Mike Rotchurts

          Kerosene is a slow burning fuel used in home heaters and alike…definitely not used in aviation
          you can call it what you want but kerosene is not used for anything other than slow combustion
          Planes, on the other hand, need a fast igniting and fast burning fuel…avgas and alike

      • GBCIR

        Yes, and hot things glow but not EVERYTHING that glows is hot…

        Phi Modn – scary POWER!

      • Sean

        3 Times you forgot building 7 that was hit with a burst of nothing, while Silverstein told them (whoever them is ) to pull building 7

        • TombRaider

          And for this boys and girls to have taken place means that the explosives were rigged well before September 11, 2001…..

    • Alpha

      The planes were all remote controlled and the passengers and crew were never aboard they were given to the aliens for experimentation in trade for new technologies for our SAS programs. :twisted:

      • LAYNALAND

        so you think you are on the top of the heap, huh…one of the top ‘dogs’?…hmmm…
        enjoy evil, do ya?…I c…If you knew how little ‘evil’ really cares for u, you’d run as fast as ur little feet could carry you…into the arms of almighty god…

        but, my real reason for this post is this…the passengers and crew were aboard, but, in ohio, they changed planes…they were taken down this long tunnel and, then, to some elevators…where they descended into levels 6 and possibly 7…there, they were led to 5 foot cages in a large floor area…each was assigned a cage…and there they remained, for the experimentation, or other purpose, that was useful to those given that charge.

        So, you c, there are others that believe your ‘theory’ to be true…and have prayed for the captives, if it were possible, to escape, their captivity.

        I know we don’t want to think of such things being true – but, we live in a fallen world – a world that is in the grip of evil, until the lord returns to make all things new again.

        for those of us who do believe, It will all be worth the wait.

        there Is much that will be un-covered/exposed in the coming days…and we will hardly believe our eyes and ears, for all we will learn.

        such is the way that light exposes the darkness.

        there should be no argument, regarding the downing of the twin towers – common sense tells us all we need to know –

        jet fuel – does not melt steel
        thermite – does melt steel

        I interviewed one of the managers of one of the towers shortly after the event.

        his information to me, showed me (in the details) that much preparation went Into bringing these towers down – even to, giving days off; and doors that should have been locked, that were left un-locked; mysterious men, with gear, coming into the building, during those days off, etc.

        one day soon, someone will come forward, with all the answers we need – becuz, they will have awakened, and realized they have nothing to fear – by telling the truth…the truth sets men free.

        :wink:

        • upchuck

          Yes. But we have been waiting a long time for someone to step forward and tell the truth or do the right thing. It’s time for the people to come together and bring this corrupt temple down. You would think going head to head with fraud would be a slam dunk, how could you lose when you have conclusive evidence to support your case.

          The fraud is so wide spread, I just have a bad feeling the courts will be paid off. For example; State courts have already turned a blind eye to the foreclosure fraud, not sure what will be different about this case. Don’t get me wrong, but fraud is a completely different animal. These aren’t yor average street thugs committing fraud,, but very powerful people.. The level of fraud is astronomical, it’s not just one person, but possibly thousands who are all in on it together. We are all in this mess together, and I only see one way out.

        • upchuck

          Sorry so many potential cases, I was referring to Barry’s birth certificate coming out in next few months. If they fail to prosecute him, we will all definetly know where we stand..

        • Sic Semper Tyrannis

          @upchuck

          Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of the federal US District Court, Southern District of New York City has seen to it that no case related to 9/11 brought by any of the families or whatnot ever sees the light of day evidence-wise. Almost all cases have been settled out of court with hush money. The others have been stalled, railroaded with legalese or government “national security” horse hockey lies or “missing” CIA evidence dismissed outright ad infinitum et ad nauseum. Hellerstein is a Zionist gatekeeper along with Michael Chertoff, a dual US/Israeli citizen who is the son of a Mossad agent himself who was the acting Deputy Attorney General who saw to it that all of the evidence of the Twin Towers crime scene was destroyed and covered up immediately. Hellerstein is what is known as a “sayan”(plural: sayanim), a Jew not living in Israel who will tirelessly defend Israel and support her in any way possible, monetarily and otherwise. Like the numerous Neocon Zionist dual Israeli/US citizens that were ubiquitous in the Bush administration, he is one of many gatekeepers of 9/11/01. The Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission Report, Phillip Zelikow, who pre-wrote the entire ridiculous coverup report before they had even convened the Commission was a Bush Neocon and dual Israeli/US citizen Zionist gatekeeper as well. Even 9/11 Commissioners themselves are on record stating it was a coverup from the get-go. So much damning evidence has been omitted from this report that it more properly should be called the 9/11 “Omission” Report.

    • afimedia

      So, please tell me how all of the network footage and that from cellphone cameras was all faked to show these planes hitting the twin towers.

      • John

        I don’t remember seeing too many different angles to the impact…I mainly have the one shot of the 1st plane and one or maybe 2 other angles of the other plane…all what cellphone footage?
        why did they confiscate the CCTV footage from around the pentagon

    • willhart

      Yeah, every intelligent person that has looked into 911 knows it was an inside job….now what we do since the ‘bad guys’ have moved on to a much larger agenda…?

    • boutaswell

      Oh, this is just plain effing BS. It was the damn Martians and Dorothy & ToTo flying those planes. It wasn’t the damn govt. Contrary to popular belief, the govt and its employees can keep no secrets. Crap leaks after a while.

    • PoliTecs

      LOL – how convenient that the ONE bit of evidence by ALL the 9//1 Truthers is this…

      THE F’ING EYE WITNESSES ON THE GROUND THAT WATCHED IT ALL HAPPEN!

      • MC

        yeah, i know what you mean. my favorite eye witness was the BBC correspondent who reported the collapse of WTC 7 a full 20 minutes before it actually collapsed. she was much more entertaining than all the eye witnesses who reported secondary explosions right before the towers came down. and those pictures of the 45 degree angle cuts in the center core columns, just plain boring.

    • drturi

      Amazing the stupidity and gullibility of the conspiracy heads… The planes who crashed fully seen on TV by millions on 911 were imaginary… I predicted it all AND PRINTED IT a year before TO THE DAY! http://www.drturi.com/dr-turis-famous-9-11-prediction/

      Did you check the rest of my predictions for the world? https://www.drturi.com/20141016-universal-arian-draconis-predictions/

    • bdn

      I think they were especially designed programmed cruise missiles disguised as passenger planes. This is similar to the theory shown in independent made movie operationterror . com. You should see that movie.

    • HereAmI

      Most of what happened on 9-11 was unique. The Towers came down, or went up rather, in a way never seen before. That’s why there is so much nonsense talked about what happened. Everyone wants to slot the events into a framework that they understand, and so they try to shoehorn what appeared to happen into what actually happened, but still it doesn’t fit.
      It’s very clear, from Lear’s testimony, and by watching the video clips, that no planes were involved. No engines recovered, planes cutting through concrete and steel like Roadrunner, etc etc.
      Dr Judy Wood has collated a huge amount of data, which points, in her estimation at least, to directed energy technology being involved. This seems reasonable.
      However, there is more.
      The more I refer to involves something which the average person has no comprehension of, or even belief in. As such therefore, it is wholly invisible to the vast majority of people. It seems so crazy that it cannot possibly be true.
      But true it is.
      If you YouTube Rabbi-Pastor Jonathan Cahn’s “Harbinger” videos, you will gain an understanding of those events which is denied to millions; and even more, you will understand that those events are not the end of the matter.
      More is to come.
      I will even give you the date when the final event is to occur.
      Sunday September the 13th next year.
      Be ready, because that one will be like something which all that has gone before is merely the faintest shadow of.

      • GBCIR

        To many (man made) coincidences for Rabbi-Pastor Jonathan Cahn’s Harbingers.

        E.g Who decided to make and place the rock and bronze tree roots? Who paid?

        Stick to the MATH.

        Phi Mod9 stills the 3 ‘satanic’ spheres.

        It can Dusty-Phi too.

      • Merkin

        “Rabbi-Pastor Jonathan Cahn’s “Harbinger” videos”

        Found him fascinating as well “HereAmI”

        Note: There was an interesting conjunction of Saturn and Pluto on 9/11

      • TimeForTruth

        Lay off the crack bro!

    • StormyB4

      Planes, no planes, nukes….blah blah blah. What difference does it make? All that matters is that the official story is garbage. Until we unite behind this simple fact, we will never know the truth. All this squabbling over how is a distraction.

      • GBCIR

        No, YOU are missing the point:

        FREE ENERGY EXISTS. (as proven on 911 with dusty-PHI (disassociation) of matter)

        Free energy = no money required.

        Are you mature enough to wield the power?

    • greenghost

      A fully loaded B25 bomber hit the empire state building and burned for over an hour. The structure was not affected and even parts of it were actually open for buisness the next day. Now you tell me a modern skyscraper with modern steel with fire insulation covering the steel burns for less than half an hour and collapses into its own footprint?

      • LifeIs

        In February, 1975, the North Tower WTC burned for 3 hours. The fire spread to 6 floors.
        And this was before the fireproofing was installed.

        And anyway, the collapses of WTC 1 and 2 both began in the same locations near the top of the buildings, far above the fires.

        But even in skyscrapers that burn entirely, the steel frame remains standing. The concrete floors collapse. The siding and windows fall. The steel frame remains.

        The steel framed dome directly underneath the Hiroshima bomb remains standing to this day. It survived the heat and blast. It survived the firestorm ignited by the bomb.

    • Jay Dee

      This guy makes a convincing case that “The key to solving 9/11 is something called a “key”. Understanding video compositing technology, both its capabilities AND limitations, proves no planes, and therefore proves demolition.” This is worth the watch and fills in some of the questions regarding some anomalies…like that flash at the nose of the plane right as it makes contact with the building. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPlyXdpurw

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis

        Excellent. A lot ofthis same information is at the septemberclues.info website, but this was an even better presentation showing video fakery by the US Mafia State Propaganda Ministry.

    • Whiskey Zero

      This is old news, however it is solid information and has never been refuted because it can’t. The cartoon physics the government pushes as their mainstream 911 ‘conspiracy theory’ just doesn’t hold up under basic scientific scrutiny. There was also no commercial airliner that hit the Pentagram or Skanksville PA. There is no wreckage…just a weak cover story.

      • upchuck

        Why provide a sworn testimony to the fact of the matter thirteen years later? It took him thirteen years to come to this conclusion? Did this guy need some attention that bad, seriously give us a break. We can skin this cat every which way until next Sunday. As a result of this sworn testimony, it should be apparent to everyone that something is not right. A good look at the evidence / reckage would provide plenty of answers to all our theories. Not like you would ever be able to examine it, but it’s the logical thing to do.

        I have a feeling they are playing everyone for fools, you can only tell so many lies before the truth catches up to you.. Whatever they coated the buildings with from the inside, was the reason for the towers collapsing the way they did. Numerous accounts and sources have tested and documented multiple theories. All of them have slowly come to the same conclusion.

        They are playing us for fools just like they do everyone else. It’s so obvious by the way they communicate to the public. They were hoping that people wouldn’t pay attention nor have the brain capacity to read between the lines. Unfortunately, they have strategically underestimated every single one of us. At least 30% of society is aware of the truth and that number is growing (real conservative number). The cat is out of the bag and more people are finally waking up to the fraud. This really cant go on for ever and the truth always catches up to you in the end. It’s one big joke!!!!

    • Oldironsides

      Maybe you should consider how a straw can penetrate a telephone pole during a hurricane. But of course the live videos we watched when the second aircraft flew into the WTC on the morning of 9-11-2001 must have been faked.

    • Sic Semper Tyrannis

      For those who still can’t wrap their heads around the fact that no planes hit the Twin Towers, take a look at this clip at the website septemberclues.info which clearly shows the tip of the plane “hitting” the South Tower before it hits the tower and the same tip of the same plane coming out the OTHER END of the Tower COMPLETELY INTACT without any deformation, which is utterly impossible and ridiculous according to the laws of physics. So, we are led to believe that an aluminum plane can go through a 2″ thick steel tower like a knofe through butter with no material deformation whatsoever – THAT’S HOW STUPID THEY THINK YOU ARE!!! The American State Propaganda Media, including Faux Noise, were all in on the game, too. This was all a Mossad operation in collusion with the CIA, Saudi Intelligence, and the Military Industrial Complex.

      septemberclues.info
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE
      http://septemberclues.info/power_of_imagery.shtml

      Pilotsfor911truth.org has virtually indisputable proof from airplane ACARS data showing that UAL175, the 2nd plane that allegedly hit the South Tower was still communicating to a Remote Ground Station (RGS) over Harrisburg, Pennsylvania when the plane was allegedly striking the South Tower. 20 minutes later, after it had allegedly crashed into oblivion, it was communicating with an RGS over Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Here it is, take a look…

      http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ACARS-CONFIRMED-911-AIRCRAFT-AIRBORNE-LONG-AFTER-CRASH.html

      Face it, if you have the nerve to address your heretofore cognitive dissonance, you have been played like a flute by the evil minions of the New World Order who have used 9/11/01 as an excuse to destroy the Bill of Rights and enslave you. They have been trying every trick in the book with the latest false flags like Sandy Hook, Aurora, and the Boston Marathon Bombings to take your 2nd Amendment away just as Hitler and Stalin did to their gullible populations.

      No plane hit the Pentagon. It was a missile. Pilotsfor911truth.org has emphatically proven this by tracing the flightpath of the alleged AA77 aircraft. The side-winding corkscrews were aerodynamically impossible for a 757 to maneuver. In addition, the ground drag would have made the plane’s speed when it hit the building just above the ground aerodynamically impossible without imploding the plane. Nobody saw any plane parts on the Pentagon lawn after the crash. The next day, plane parts were found everywhere on the lawn after it was staged overnight.

      UAL93 landed at Cleveland airport along with UAL175. There was not a single body or part discovered at the alleged crash site of UAL93. In fact, Google maps of the crash site area taken before the “crash” ever happened, showed the same indention in the Earth that the government told you was where the plane hit the Earth so hard that it plowed under the ground (I CAN’T MAKE THIS INSANITY UP!).

      757′s and 767′s have no problem traveling at 540 mph at 33,000 feet above sea level where the air is very rarefied. Air doesn’t even start to become appreciably rarefied until you get to around 18,000′ above sea level. The planes that hit the Towers were around just over 700′ above sea level on a warm September morning. Aerodynamically those planes would have imploded well before impact in mid-air. In addition, cellphone calls were impossible to make and maintain for long at the heights where those planes were as the calls would not have enough signal strength and even if you were to get closer to the ground, the calls would be transferring from celltower to celltower to celltower far too rapidly. On one of the cellphone calls, you can hear one of the Mossad or CIA terrorists in the background talking in a light whisper clearly say under high amplification at the end of the call, “YOU DID GOOD!” The planes were observed to have landed at Cleveland’s airport. The passengers were offlloaded to a NASA building and the I-X Bldg. They were likely bussed somewhere and executed.

      WAKE UP!!!

      • mfritz0

        Actually, I have watched the buildings go down many times, but tell me this, when you watch the planes collide with the buildings, watch the wing tips of the planes. They never make any contact with the building, why? because they were not there. What was filmed was a holographic projection over a missile. or a controlled explosion triggering a controlled demolition.

      • johansen

        that’s mostly what happened except I disagree with others about the holographic projection part.

        go back and watch all the video footage… its all photoshop, in some cases, rather poor photoshop, with the planes crossing in front of the wrong buildings.

        the “hundreds of people who saw the planes hit the building” can’t be found today, some are dead, others dissapeard. its pretty clear all the initial witnesses were stooges. playing the audio backwards from various “live feeds” will also yeild some interesting sound effects.

      • Boethius

        You are correct that no planes hit the towers. The first “plane” was most likely a missile. That’s what it sounded like. The second “plane” was most likely a hologram. It had no sound.

        How do I know? I was there. Nobody saw the first “plane” because nobody who worked near the WTC looked out of the window at 8:30 a.m. You stare at the sky in the afternoon. So we only heard the vrrrooooom…bang! Then when we looked out to see what it was all about there was the hole in the WTC and the fire, all that. We just kept staring at it until the second plane came into view. Then we all ran.

        The “plane” that nobody saw came in fast and a hard. The “plane” that we all saw came in slow and quiet. I don’t believe either one was a plane.

        • TimeForTruth

          Planes did hit the Towers. They were remote controlled military planes not AA planes. Also how many people died in the towers? About 3000 Humm Well over 50,000 people worked in the towers daily. Most were told to stay home that day. Also note all the burnt cars that were on the other side of town from the Directed Energy Weapons. It was known thanks to HAARP that the middle east had 20 years of oil left. The Iraq & Afgani wars cost $500 million a year to run. They stole $11 Billion in Gold & Silver from the towers. That covers the cost of the war for about 22 years. Remember Bush saying the war would pay for itself? Yeah, that’s how. We should have Tesla Free Energy by now but they don’t want to lose that grip on the world and that will only get tighter once half the world is out of oil. We need to know more about the Pyramids in Crimea and we need to know more about the passengers on the Malaysian flight.

          Time to wake up people. Time to do away with the evil Jew/Nazi/Euros running this country and the world.

          http://www.drjudywood.com/

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqXZ08thdo

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkojpgNZD9I

    • StarRyder

      Not only is this a horrible slam towards the memory of the many innocent people who died that day, but the whole story is riddled with inaccuracies and outright fabrications. The author ought to be ashamed of tarnishing the memory of the many heros of that day in his effort to bring this fairytale to life.

      He states that “Unlike any other form of statement, an affidavit becomes truth in law, if it is not rebutted. ” But in truth an affadvit is only a sworn statement of fact as seen by the one making that statement, it is like an oath on the stand, and is subject to cross examinations….I in fact have seen judges who disregard affadvits while reviewing a case, without any question of it.

      There were thousands of witnesses to the planes hitting the buildings and seen from every angle. There is NO technoligy available to make them appear as if a hologram or anything else. It just don’t exist.

      80 tons of airplane hitting a 14inch, steel or concrete coloum at 500 miles an hour, would slice right through it. Just use your head.

      The buildings fell, and everything in the was smashed to powder, everything, including HUGE airconditioner fans located throughout the building….yet this expert says full size pieces of the airplane would survive.

      I have never benn on an airplane, but if its in the air allready, I’m pretty sure I could hit those buildings the way they stood out.

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis

        If you care to do some research on John Lear on youtube, you will see that he mentioned meeting a tv executive from New York who had attended a “FUTURE OF TELEVISION” presentation out in Hollywood, California. She stated that the guy who gave the presentation was a fellow with an East German accent who came to the podium and took the audience from the cathode ray tube to the invention of television. When the presentation was over, the guy literally”DISAPPEARED ON STAGE”. The entire presentation was a holographic image, and it fooled every single person in the audience!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CudLxM04l6A

        • BassBoy

          There are people on there that claim they have been abducted by aliens and given a grand tour of the universe too so does that mean it really happened???

        • upchuck

          Honestly all theories are valid until proven otherwise. Crank up the volume on the first video below. Does that sound like a plane or missile? The Physics argument is also valid, those planes would have cut right through the glass like butter. Does anyone know how many lumens it would take to project a hologram?

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IE82r4ycQs4

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOwttgBpzE

        • TimeForTruth

          Holograms will be used for Project Blue Beam, but they weren’t used on 9/11.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPAYbbGLYlE

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis

        Here’s another about Strategic Perception Management showing the USAF would love to use a holographic projector to fool the enemy into believing we have superior air power or whatnot. This sort of makes you wonder about the UFO sightings doing incredible feats traveling at speeds that are impossible to attain with modern technology. Could some UFO’s be holographic projections, too???

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPfN-PvFJ0

      • mfritz0

        No, NO, NO, The fact that all those people were murdered by their own government, or the Elite, to start a war against Iraq and terrorism, means those people were all destroyed for no real reason, other than deception. What we need to do is root out the individuals responsible and put them away, permanently. No matter how long it takes.

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis

        Whatever took down the Towers was likely nuclear. The US Geological Survey did tests on the area and found radiation levels were through the roof for elements commonly associated with nuclear bombs such as Tritium, Lithium, Yttrium, Plutonium, and Uranium. In fact, even in the already extremely watered down samples used, Tritium levels were at 50 times the background levels for NYC.

        Dimitri Khalezov, a former Russian nuclear explosions intelligence officer, knew for many years that there were nuclear demolition devices under both of the World Trade Center Towers and the Sears Tower in Chicago as part of the SALT treaty disclosures. This actually baffled the Russian officers and was a frequent source of jokes because they couldn’t wrap their minds around how the Americans would place nuclear demolition devices within their own skyscrapers, but when these skyscrapers were built nuclear demolition was an acceptable form of demolition. The NYC and Chicago governments required builders to have an acceptable plan for demolition for the future. The plan for demolition of these skyscrapers required built-in nuclear demolition devices. Khalezov said these devices were approximately 27 meters underground. Being under heavy ground, the ground acted as a shape charge forcing the explosion to propagate upward being the path of least resistance. This explains the cavities that were created underground below both Towers and the immense heat at “ground Zero” for 6 months that was burning the boots of the firemen constantly.

        Dimitri Khalezov on the morning of 9/11/01 was in Bangkok, Thailand, with one of his friends, Michael Harari, a Deputy Chief of the Mossad and an Israeli hero of sorts in his native Israel. Michael Harari had invited him to breakfast with Harari’s son that morning. He said that Harari had once asked him before about the underground nukes at the Towers, so he was already well aware of them being there. He said that Harari was celebrating the fall of the Towers. He believes that Harari was the mastermind behind the 9/11/01 inside job.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brQqRLCxJew&feature=related
        http://www.nuclear-demolition.com/index.html
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNuKAdGlxFo&feature=related
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c39O-ftZboU&feature=relmfu

      • John

        air conditioning fans are not made from titanium so yes the planes engines would have survived as they were built to endure the extreme temperatures of aviation fuel burning at its maximum possible temperature with air being forced through it to increase thrust…so yes a 9 thousand pound titanium engine built to take the equivalent of 30 thousand rpm would survive compared to a mild steel fan which is built to spin about 30 rpm lol
        now that’s food for thought

    • boldtruth

      I think my friends sitting on their balcony of their Jersey City Apts facing the towers and watching their friends get his by jets might disagree.

      • Pateriot

        Any voice of reason is quickly down voted by the crazies. There is no arguing with the members of the church of 9-11 “Truthers”!!!

        • COCONUT

          Lots of them needs a visit to a psychiatrist.

        • Confederate

          No Breath they need to be locked away!

    • Reaper

      We now know the obvious—-’–what was flown into the towers were DRONES. ….the question is, where were they controlled from and where have they hidden/imprisoned the passengers. Oregon were they part of the play as well.

      • crabby

        ‘where were they flown from ” the 22nd floor of WTC 7.. at 5 o’clock ,, the evidence was destroyed ..

        question # 2 … body bags..

    • Doccus

      He’s partly right.. in fact he’s right about everything except the “no plane” bit. The military has the tech to fly it as a drone.. After all do you think drones just appeared out of nowhere? And an experienced military pilot *could* navigate a suitably equipped military plane/drone with a missile attached at 400 MPH into the tower. There’s no proof the plane was going 545 MPH, nor was it necessary to fly that fast. As far as not finding an engine, the whole thing was under wraps so they could, and in fact would, have hidden it, as it would prove it was not a civilian aircraft .
      John Lear is the most ticketed pilot around and his opinion as to the flying difficulties involved should be taken very seriously, but as to how the government deceives us he’s just like the rest of us, so as to whether there were any planes, should be taken in the context of no *civilian* planes.
      Many people on the ground saw a “military style” grey plane with no windows, and the few photos show the same, with what appears to be a missile launcher under the plane. Look folks, if the gov’t had created those photos, surely they’d take out the missile launcher, and make it look like a commercial jet instead of a military one.
      So, IMHO, still very suspect, but not due to “no planes”.

      • LifeIs

        No, there aren’t any clear pictures. The tanker plane refueling boom, the electronics pod under the wing, or as you say “rocket launcher,” are people reading into blurs.

        There is absolutely no need for a pod on the wing. There’s plenty of room inside for electronics, and you wouldn’t have to run wires through the wing.

        There is absolutely no need for a rocket launcher, when you have the airplane itself impacting the target.

        There is no need to leave a refueling boom on a tanker plane, if you’re going to remotely fly it into a building. It would slow the plane down, anyway.

        And there is no need for good clear pictures of jetliners. The more confusing the evidence, the more members of the public throw up their hands and accept the official story.

        That’s why we got several versions of the Abbottabad raid, contradictory stories, all at once.

        So, if you’ve got some stock footage of the tanker version of the 767, there’s no reason not to use it.

    • CHESS: PUTIN 7-0 OBAMA

      Here’s my take: Strap Obama and the Bush’s to a Boeing 767 and send it into space with 300 of Obama brotherhood muslim friends onboard. Take another plane and fill it up with the 535 members of parliament and send that flight to to the moon. Then we celebrate for one week. Then we rebuild the country for 51 weeks.

      • Corporate Slave #010699-501C-3

        Ya man. I agree :twisted:

    • Anonymous

      Lear is a smart guy with no predilection for lying, like those who gave us the official story. Just as many holes in the recent false flags like Sandy Hook and Boston as there were in the 9/11 official story. Sloppy work by a bunch of insanely evil people. There’s getting to be almost as many people that don’t believe the story they were told about 9/11 as those that don’t believe the asinine lone gunman/JFK story.

    • Anonymous

      Lear is a brilliant and really interesting guy, check out some of his interviews on YouTube and Coast to Coast.

    • iamamerican

      You know what would be nice? For us to all STOP arguing amongst ourselves and actually do something about the crimes that were perpetrated against humanity.
      The phrase “divide and conquer” has worked in their favor.

    • HIDDENTEXTOR

      1:65 4 Trois souz les chaines par le milieu troussés
      UUROTE: USES AIRPLANES ROUTES
      STRESS UUORST STORIES TOUUERS
      6:50 1 Dedans le puys seront trouuez les os
      UUROTE: LOSE TOUUERS,
      TORRENTS ROTTEN UUOES
      ELSE RULE OUT PLANES
      2:33 1 Par le torrent qui descent de Veronne
      NONE EVER QUESTIONED PLANE TERROR DESCENT
      7 24 4 Grand de Lorraine par le Marquis du Pont
      AIM OLDER RADAR PLANES QUADRANT
      QUARRIED [the masonry – a pun?] MATURING,
      PARAMOUNT GRIND QUARRIED
      RADAR ON OPP.
      9:9 2 Sera trouue’ au temple des Vestales
      UUROTE: REASSERT RAREST LAST TALES DELVES
      VEST VESSELED – LED RELEASES
      the details of the planes will disclose the truth

      • WTX

        Romanoff says he helped former world chess Champion Bobby Fischer when he was arrested in Japan in 2004. He got Fischer an Icelandic passport to prevent him from being deported to the United States. Fischer then informed Romanoff he was a “grandmaster of the illuminati.” Romanoff also says Fischer told him he was the original mastermind behind the 911 terrorist attack against the US. The ultimate motive of this attack was to provoke a revolution in the US against royalist control, who they refer to as the “old world order,” as opposed to the “new world order,” this illuminati group stands for.

        http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/benjamin-fulford-10-18-11-rothschild-family-offers-white-dragon-society-25-trillion-to-go-away/

    • Anonymous

      Go to Veterans Today for the most comprehensive debate available on the 911 attacks at the pentagon and WTCs. The perimeter panels were prepped with a thermitic material and numerous photoshopped impact videos are being added to be currently produced facsimiles of photoshops made to boost ratings which are now cleaned up to edit out the previous fakes’ deects. As an ex- CIA pilot Mr. Lear could be eliminated like the rest of company witnesses who stray from CIA control and nobody would care.

    • Jeff

      he’s right.

    • SGde3a

      The military air force was apparently tied up in a training exercise about runaway jets straying into illegal airspace. Therefore there were no jets to handle the ones flying into the city. Second, theres video of people on the ground saying a grey jet with no windows (ie remote controlled). There’s evidence of the “hijackers” apparently still beign a live or long dead before the incident…it goes on…

    • ipod45

      Anybody that believes the government didn’t have anything to do with the towers coming down,are the one’s responsible for the crooks in congress and the WH. There is so much information out there that shows what really happened if they would only open their eyes . You can’t fixes stupid! Just look at building 7 just before it fell,and then there should be no reason not to believe that the government was responsible. OPEN YOUR EYES! IT DOESN’T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST,JUST SOMEBODY WITH HALF A BRAIN!

    • iowafree

      Has anybody on here heard of John Hutchison or the “Hutchison Effect”?

      • GBCIR

        It is scary how many remain WILFULLY IGNORANT.

        They are mind-controlled slaves (they vote for government = external rule = CHAOS).

        They even ignore the fact “govern-ment” = control-mind.

        Anarchy = FREEDOM. That’s another word most ignore the TRUE definition of.

        And worst of all: The Hutchison Effect is SIMPLE math. Phi Modn.

        A heterodyne (standing) wave in a resonant domain.

        And the wilfully ignorant should KNOW bitcoin is broken (like the IDEA of money) too.

        ALL the primes on a nice (mean) curve…

    • Болеслава

      No planes. Just photoshop. Go back to sleep morons. You deserve what you’ve got coming to you.

    • LifeIs

      “‘I saw it with my own eyes.’ If I had a nickle for every time I’ve heard that. If people didn’t have eyes to see with, it wouldn’t be so easy to fool them.” << a magician on "Moonlighting"

      There were witnesses who saw windowless planes.

      We can't trust the video, and you don't need a hologram to fake it, you need a remotely operated plane or a drone. With a transponder. And you superimpose a plane picture.

      Eyewitnesses can't see much at all, when something is moving that fast. That is why the vehicles were moving so fast.

      Seriously, have you ever TRIED getting a look at a military jet flying at low altitude? You hear it coming just before it arrives, you don't know which way to look exactly. You get a glimpse and it's gone. If you're quick.

      I don't know what kind of plane can survive flying so fast at low altitude. Or whether the Global Hawk can. It's a plane, but pilotless.

      You don't need Wood-Disinfo secret space weapons to disintegrate so much of the towers, including the massive steel cores. The smallest nuke that we know of had a yield equivalent to 10 tons of TNT. And that was over 50 years ago.

      Nukes are much improved since then. Cleaner. Lighter. Adjustable yield.

      Sure, there's nothing exotic about remote controlled planes. We've had those since World War Two. And the technology is much improved since then.

      But why fly so fast, even if they could, why do it? Nobody was chasing them. The (unprecedented) rules of the airliner hijack exercise in progress required the personal approval of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, to scramble fighters. There were no fighters.

      We have the video of the guys who just happened to be close by, with the fire department, investigating a gas smell report. I don't know why their video showed a plane silhouette, overhead. It should have been a blurred streak.

      And we have the video seen on network tv live. If you're prepared in advance, and they were, it is no problem to superimpose one picture on top of the other.

      • LifeIs

        And yes the buildings had steel cores. And the media and their “experts” told us otherwise
        in the aftermath of 9-11. And that tells you a lot about the media.

    • JeppeSeverin

      We have three claims/theories:

      1. The planes were ordinary 767 airliners flown by certain terrorists.

      2. There were no planes at all.

      3. The planes were special remote controlled Boeings resembling the UA and AA 767 airliners. (With this theory, you don’t need to wonder whether the passengers and terrorists were on board or not. They either were or were not.)

      Why 3 becomes the HYPOTHESIS/most likely of what happened is explained in detail through these videos and articles:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZHamfG1aII

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iToxQVq-Lg

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrpNK4lJVc

      http://ckpi.typepad.com/christopher_king/2009/12/lets-cover-that-murray-street-engine-one-more-time.html

      Regardless, the official strory is huge cartoonish lie. A modern Flat Earth story. If enough people don’t realize this soon enough, the western world will be at absolute stake.

      Please visit AE911Truth.org.

    • Pateriot

      Someone’s 747s were most certainly flown into the twin towers. His assertion that this was somehow impossible is therefore incorrect, which makes anything else he says very suspect. Just another nutty conspiracy theory by someone with an over active imagination and too much time on their hands!

      • Foundingfather5150

        And you have a resume that can shadow Lear’s hypothesis? There is no E in Patriot.
        I am interested in seeing your credentials…………..

        • Ark21

          I think the name is supposed to be “Pate Riot” or “Pâté Riot”.

          It means “when Meat Paste violently protests.”

    • VirusGuard

      I say planes hit the towers but they were rigged with explosives to come tumbling down and I want to know when justice for this false flag is going to be handed out

    • Sean

      The engines are made of titaniun and no kerosene in the world could melt them, nor could it even melt steel I-beams wrapped in concrete, but the real question is if kerosene brought the towers down due to temperatures over 2,000 degrees, Then Why Were All The Windows Not Melted Out First, Glass Melts At 800 Degrees

      Maybe we should get all those Israeli Mossad back over 150 arrested on and the week of 911 and put them in a room with all the family who lost lives and then with the Families of Afganistans and Iraqis, then with the taxpayers of america if anything is left of these Humps by then

      Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and the rest need to stand trial for thiis treason on the American People

    • bicycledays

      Great post. Thank you. What do you think happened to the original planes. I read somewhere, I think, that they landed in Cleveland, Ohio. Did the planes take off again? Any thoughts on this.

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis

        The call letters for the planes for UAL175 and UAL93 were still in effect after the alleged crashes from what I have read and seen in this video , so yes, these planes were still being used by the airlines long after they were alleged to have been blown to Kingdom Come. The passengers were offloaded at Cleveland’s Hopkins International Airport. Even the mayor of Cleveland, mayor White, witnessed one of these planes landing! AA77 and AA11 were not even scheduled to fly on 9/11/01. 8 of the alleged hijackers have been proven to still be alive to this day. Mohammad Atta is one of the hijackers who is still alive. His passport was stolen in 1999, 2 years before the false-flag. The real Mohamad Atta would never have gone to strip clubs and drank like a fish as the alleged Mohammad Atta hijacker was recorded to have done. These hijackers were part of an Israeli Mossad coverup operation to make the plot plausible. They were either Saudi patsies or Israeli Mossad agents posing as hijackers for the coverup spy operation. This ridiculous intelligence was likely passed on to the dupes in the American government and the US Military (the Operation “Able Danger” nonsense)to be presented later to the American public as legitimate intelligence when it’s nothing but apre-planned coverup for what is really going on…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue-MLMnlTzY&feature=related

    • ANNSTEY

      This man is absolutely crazy. I was watching USA Sunrise in South Australia early in the morning and exactly when the planes flew into the towers- watched it all happen from start to finish.
      I certainly didn’t imagine planes flying into those buildings!
      How crazy can these people get? And what is the point of this grey-haired retired man?
      Is he missing attention from his retirement? There’s something wrong with him for sure

      • LifeIs

        You saw video of the second impact. And how long is the image of the plane on the screen, maybe one second?

        You definitely saw the real impact of a real plane of some sort. It almost missed the building. It cut through the corner. The burning fuel went right out of the building. And the fire in that corner of the building burned itself out in minutes. THAT wasn’t planned.

        But a little bit of doctoring is all it takes to make the plane image a 767.

        Did you see American astronauts walk on the Moon between 1969 and 1972 ? Live on TV ?

        Ever wonder why nobody has travelled beyond low earth orbit since?

      • Mayhem

        Oh you saw it on the telly, that’s okay then. Back to sleep.

    • SilenceNobody

      Another pilot with considerable experience flying the Boeing 757 and 767 airliners wrote a book about 9/11 called THE BIG BAMBOOZLE. Philip Marshall also worked as a contract pilot for the CIA and was Barry Seal’s Lear jet pilot. His work relies on testimony given at the Congressional Joint Inquiry as well as ATC recordings. His murder suicide, like the death of Barry Seal, has CIA stamped all over it. A man who is right-handed does not shoot himself in his left temple and “conspiracy theorists” are not assassinated to keep them quiet. Money from Saudi Arabia funneled was through Riggs Bank in Washington by Saudi Prince Bandar went to two of the known terrorists. The hijacker pilots were trained by Saudi’s at a CIA facility called Pinal Airpark. Prince Bandar Bush was even allowed to smoke his cigar in a Barbara Bush no smoking home.

    • ray

      imagination is a wonderful thing

    • Celsiusrising

      If anyone knows aircraft flight characteristics, it is John Lear.
      The inability of the various and sundry “armchair experts” to wrap their minds around the facts, however controversial, is not an indication of Lear’s dishonesty, but of small minds with loud mouths and no knowledge, which does not prevent said morons from holding forth on a subject that a mere 3 or 4 seconds will be more than enouth time for them to collectively deliver everything they know about flying.

    • Nationcrying

      Government controls media; they used technology to make it appear as if a plane hit the buiilding and then told the story; I think they are called holograms. 3 buildings cannot fall as neatly as they did. There were also eyewitnesses including fireman, policeman, people in the buildings who will testify that they heard “explosions”. Research people. Our government used 911 to take away many freedoms and rights of We the People. Look at the laws that have been passed using 911 as an “excuse”. Do not trust government controlled main stream media.

      • Celsiusrising

        Exactly. These are indeed perilous times, and we all must develop our innate abilities to discern the facts before us.
        to all those who are having trouble with facts, I say, First, suspend your disbelief, while retaining a balanced skepticism.
        Helpful hint: Those that are yelling the loudest are usually promoting a personal agenda, while honest truth needn’t scream and yell…

    • StraightDopes

      the sons of billionaires DON’T have the best track record for truth-telling.

      in fact, they tend to be some of the most DISHONEST people around, with vested interests in maintaining the status quo – and that is quite often accomplished by playing the role of controlled “opposition.”

      just a reminder.

    • CaptAmerica

      I think what he meant to say was that No Commercial planes hit the Twin Towers, or is he talking about the Pentagon, where no airliner did not actually hit the building? One or the other.

    • LoveFreedom

      After reading much of the comments, I was wondering why they didn’t do anything (murder) those in the Control Towers? There was so much to think about and I saw a show that showed everything that happened on that day from one of the Air Control Towers. Everything anyone said was taped. Were they given a script and some kind of magic change to their screens so that they ‘could see’ these planes before they went off radar? Wouldn’t the people who killed all those who were on the plane, have to be killed, too? It is really hard to keep a secret in America. Eventually, all secrets will come out. It may take some time. :roll:

      • LifeIs

        The control center tapes were cut up and thrown away, and you should wonder why.

        You don’t have to kill everybody, by the way. You just have to make them believe you will kill them if they talk.

        And no, I don’t believe the people on the planes were killed. That’s the whole point of flying them to Cleveland, instead of say flying them into a building. There were a small number of people on each plane. Those flights existed only to facilitate planned disappearances.

        Like the Global Hawk engineers and executives and military people.

    • Israel Tucker

      No Planes? Or different kind of plane? … military says what?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHghW4Pg5k

    • Israel Tucker

      Oops, I almost forgot. Here’s just some physics & financials … .

      It speaks for itself on this topic.

      be blessed & true to yourself

    • Rip

      The whole event was an illusion. Guess where Broadway is located? New York City. Where did this event take place? New York City. Are the terrorists an illusion too? There’s no business like show business.

    • aznavyvet

      if this is a fake story WHY do you keep it on line.

    • Snowball

      The headline is misleading. I’m no John Lear fan, but at least quote him properly.
      He’s not saying “no planes”. He’s saying no 767′s. They were remote-controlled,
      military aircraft made out to look like passenger planes. ok ?

    • Jim

      I’m sure the guy that supposedly flew into the IRS building a month or so after 911 had nothing to do with this. I’m sure the fact that he was a contractor for the government and wrote software to remote control/fly aircraft was just a coincidence also. Burned his house down then flew into an IRS building, yep totally believable. Can I have some more government Kool-Aid please?

      AWAKEN

    • Drew Bourdain

      no comment lol..

    • Anonymous

      Can any nut job just come on this site and spout off the most overtly idiotic comments ? I mean come on, I literally watch the second plan hit the South tower live, come on BIN do a little due diligence before you post this stupidity.

    • GC-Project

      Open Letter to the Alternative Media. Read & Share so we can WIN!
      /alternative/2014/03/open-letter-to-the-alternative-media-read-share-to-win-2911352.html

      • Corporate Slave #010699-501C-3

        I’m with ya dude.

    • Foundingfather5150

      Grade A high tensile strength steel has a rating of 58,000 lbs per sq. inch, and is capable of elongating 2″ when heated to melting strength or stretched cold. If there were 34 main frames in the core of the Trade Centers, that would be a combined strength of 1,972,000 lbs per square inch of breaking strength. The aircraft heavy did not exceed half a million pounds. The light weight non ferrous metals would have gave way upon impact- period. Truth is that winged craft hit the towers, the fact that the extremities did not break lose upon impact is suspect.
      Me. Lear has a plausible theory.
      More than anything, Jet engines performances do drop drastically with altitude.
      I would be very interested in someone would step forward with the blueprints of the towers, and show the calculations that were used to build them. We all then would know the true capabilities they were meant to withstand.

    • Mark

      1. The planes were military versions of the civilian plans supposedly hijacked
      2. They were flown in remotely
      3. The towers were collapse by a controlled demolition
      4. 3 buildings collapsed – all owned by the same man who conveniently over insured them
      5. One of them (wtc-7 ) fell at or around feel fall rates (pretty much impossible without demolition)
      6. The event was orchestrated by elements of the CIA with support from NWO
      7. An Israeli film crew are caught filming the event from a rooftop from before it occurred
      8. Several “Paid for actors” provided man on the street interviews saying that the building collapsed from the fire and impact, (leading the audience)
      9. Highly unusual financial trades were placed before 9/11
      10. People in the know didn’t show up for work that day.
      11. The never ending war on terrorism began, completely unwinnable with no definable enemy
      12. Military industrial complex makes out like bandits
      13. Legislation such as the patriot act is passed,
      14. An excuse now existed for any war crime the bush cheney team needed for their agenda

      Now we learn that the supposed planes used would have exceeded their design specs. WHY IS THERE ANY DEBATE?

      Because as a people we can’t handle the truth! The Truth is that we were “played” masterfully, The entire plan was a work of brilliance , evil brilliance!

      The Bush / Cheney was in office because of election fraud, but their complete list of crimes will never be known. Still they were those that helped and supported them and those people are still calling the shots on some level.

    • Ideas Time

      Movies are great. They make every thing look real. Green screened. Get it?

    • Ideas Time

      Movies are great. They make every thing look real. Green screened. Get it? If you really buy the scam and ignore physics, I have a bridge to sell you.

    • Ideas Time

      Ignore physics and reality and you can buy the g v native. Shills will do there best to cover up the truth. There is one problem, like sandy hook, it was all a lie to usher in the Patriot act, take our second amendment rights to make the sheep support the criminal cabal. A cleansing of stupid people is in order.

    • willhart

      Nobody ever claimed any jet hit WTC 7, so what’s the official version on that one? Why did each building implode on its own footprint, just like every demolition does? Why did were air traffic controllers so slow and NORAD asleep-at-the-wheel in scrambling the Interceptors? How coudl the retrieved black box from the supposed Pentagon jet contain NO DATA? That would be the only time in history that ever happened.

      Get serious people I did a tour in Nam on an aircraft carrier, I know how secure things are when the military is operating as it normally does. Something was not normal that day. Consider this: if you accept the official story then you also have to accept AS FACT that the US Military failed in its main Mission, which is to Defend the country from ENEMY attack. What if those had been Russian jets carrying nukes….

    • Diogenes

      One of the best summaries of 9-11 ever. http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

    • MLK321

      CIA pilots do not know anything about crash dynamics. The videos we have seen for years are real.

      • Ark21

        You’re being sarcastic, right?

        Otherwise, here’s that little clicking noise. Have another peanut.

    • bdn

      It’s obvious in Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon that there were no planes. I suspect they were cruise missiles perhaps disguised as planes hitting the rigged buildings.

      And they may not have been disguised at all. If you were planning the crime of the century with unlimited cash wouldn’t you make sure you tell your side of the story with “indisputable” video? But if going to the movies lately has taught you anything – its easy for video experts to doctor video to make fiction look real.

    • Anonymous

      John Lear is a nut case. Anyone with any sense that heard him on Coast to Coast the other night would realize that he is not running on all 8 cylinders.

    • FaSolLa

      Just a few thoughts/questions:

      If real planes did not hit the towers, where are all the people who supposedly were on those flights? Ask their families if they’ve seen them lately.

      Osama admitted responsibility for 9/11.

      Why isn’t it possible that terrorists rigged the buildings (rather than our government)?

      Firefighters admitted to demolition of building seven because they didn’t think they could control the fire that started there.

    • panacam

      Good Grief!! People SAW the planes HIT the towers!! And, with the temperatures that occurred after the planes hit, it’s no wonder that there wasn’t much – if anything left of the planes!
      These kinds of stories really are ridiculous! Why not just say “space aliens” fired on the buildings? It’s just a ridiculous! If a tornado can put a playing card through a 2×4 pine stud, I have no doubt that a 767 can go through a building at 400+ miles per hour, regardless of the structural design of the plane!

    • StavoV

      Guess that is why that pilot, is an EX- CIA pilot. He suffers from the famous DKS syndrome. :shock:

      • It\\\'s a conspiracy!

        “EX- CIA pilot.” Whatever that is. So he says.

    • Mayhem

      @the Slammers… Did you read this in the article?…

      “Lear has, according to his sworn statement, flown over 100 different types of planes during his 40 years of flying and holds more FAA airman certificates than any other FAA certificated airman. He flew secret missions for the CIA in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa between 1967 and 1983 then spent 17 years working for several passenger and cargo airlines as Captain, Check Airman and Instructor.”

      … you know what “sworn statement” means, don’t you? It means you could sue his arse if you think he’s lying. He’s got a pair, show us yours.

    • It\\\'s a conspiracy!

      “Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores” ?

      A 2 engine plane has 3 engines. Since when?

    • capoprimo

      I guess what I saw on live TV was just a figmnet of my imagination, eh? To use an old expression, this is just plain “Horse Feathers”.

      • Mayhem

        You believe everything you see on the telly? Boy do you have an epiphany coming. Put down the kool-Aide take your shoes and socks off, step in some earth, reconnect and get a ‘f’-ing grip. Breathe.

    • Maubi

      I can no longer come on this site tired of the commercials even when trying to listen to a video and sometimes there are more than one going at the same time. :mad:

    • Truthseeker007

      Nonetheless, authorities soon employed a variety of methods to suppress that evidence as well.

      •A 78-minute audio-tape of communications between firefighters in the South Tower was suppressed for over a year by the Port Authority and the Department of Justice.

      •Detailed engineering drawings of the Twin Towers and Building 7 have remained unavailable to the public.

      •New York City firefighters said they had been ordered not to share what they witnessed on September 11th, and feared doing so would jeopardize their jobs.

      •Officials have refused to release video footage of the Pentagon attack beyond the five frames released in early 2002. This is supposed to be the most secure building in the world. There were surely dozens of cameras on the Pentagon grounds that recorded the attack.

      •The FBI confiscated and refused to release footage of the Pentagon attack by security cameras owned by private, local businesses.

      •Air traffic controllers were ordered, by the FBI, not to discuss what they know about the attack.
      http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/911-really-happened/

      • Wretched Infidel

        Yep, all this.

    • tattiio

      I realize there are many unanswered questions with 9/11, but I watched the second plane hit tower two. How is it possible that I watched it hit if they could not have?

      • Wretched Infidel

        You think you saw ‘a passenger plane’ hit the tower, but it may well have been something else
        another type of plane, a missile, a hologram

        this is how we may be deceived in the future too, re: the return of a huge number of angels to ‘save’ us…
        they know all the tricks… old and new
        and we have proven with this 9/11 that we are very willing to believe!

        • PeterRome

          C’mon! Did you miss seeing the videos?

      • Mayhem

        @tattiio. I hear what you are saying, one tick for your side, one. But i also know this”

        The reliability of Eyewitness by, among others, Bothwell, Cutler, Sporer.

        Read a freaking book, do it now or go to your room!

    • Starlette

      I hate the new format!!

    • cann

      Never saw this documentary? There was no plane.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds

    • PeterRome

      Are we all blind? Or just stupid? Why didn’t the article go into Lear’s explanation about the visual evidence, i.e. the videos? They’re kind of hard to ignore. So did Lear just choose to ignore them, or did everyone choose to not ask Lear the question? In any event, this is off-the-scale dumb!

    • MAGMED

      MR. RON BAITLEY-SIMEN: Why are you MISWORDING the title? Mr. Lear states: “No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors”, he stated in the affidavit. He did not state “No Planes Hit The Twin Towers.”

      THE TITLE IS MISLEADING!

      Shame on you, Ron Baitley-Simen for MISWORDING the title of the article. People like you are obstructing finding the real answers to what happened on 9/11. You should be pulled from your job!

      READ, PEOPLE, READ!!

    • Ideas Time

      Ever hear of green screened? Also a guy dissected the images and there were several anomalies and prove they were faked. No Planes hit the buildings and even if planes had they would have little effect on the buildings as they are flying tin cans.

    • marlio

      It appears they were some type of remote controlled aircraft, probably remote controlled military craft. Now I heard the passenger planes landed in Cleveland but don’t know where the passengers went or what happened to them. I;m assuming they are in some type of alternative identity program and live in foreign countries now. I;ve heard Barbara Olsen was seen over the years, in Germany and I;m sure her husband knows where she is.

    • pookieamos

      If this were true , the question of where did the people go who were reportedly on the planes go , begs to be answered.

      • Mayhem

        You can’t be that interested, pookieamos, you clearly missed this post…

        crabby: “where were they flown from” the 22nd floor of WTC 7… at 5 o’clock… the evidence was destroyed… question #2… body bags. MAR 3, 2014, 3:45 PM

        … feeling silly?

    • anonymous

      Well heres what i got the towers were 208 ft wide and a 767 has a 156 ft wingspan. So a couple of inexperienced pilots hit those towers directly in the middle so that no part of the wing sheered off. Hmm dosent seem like that would be to likely. Plus the engines were still out far enough that they if they broke off something should have been able to make it through all of the office space and out the other side and possibly into another building.

    • YIPCARL

      I fear for his life. It’s dead by an accident, anyday now.

    • YIPCARL

      All you need to know is Building 7. That’s it. Plane or no plane. Building 7
      http://rememberbuilding7.org/

    • Anonymous

      I hope Mr. Lear doesn’t meet with any ‘unfortunate accidents!’

    • Town Hall Rules

      What is missing here is the case number of the affidavit so that we can reference it !

      What is the case number. ?

      Having read the above it appears as true and correct. He did not say planes did not fly into
      the trade center. A jet aircraft would have disintegrated and fallen to the ground
      when hitting the steel girders before entering the building of that thickness and mass.

      Tail and wing sections surely would have separated and fallen to the ground outside
      of the building, and surely the same should have happened at the Pentagon.

      The evidence has been well documented and investigated by the people.
      The crime of 911 unfortunately has not been prosecuted by a people’s Grand Jury.

      Mayor Giuliani (as well as other government officials) are guilty of felony obfuscation by not demanding a grand jury investigation as a matter of record.
      as well as other government officials.

      John Lear may be narcistic but if he actually filed an affidavit then he has put
      himself on the butchering block. What is the case number and can I view the
      affidavit ? This article is baseless without the reference to the affidavit.

    • excised

      If you take the time to actually listen to what john lear says and then use that information to assess its relevancy with what can be seen in the footage available a few things become absolutely clear.
      Firstly, john lear has stated that whilst working at lockheed martin he was given a look at project bluebeam technology.
      He says a hologram aircraft was flown very low over his head, he said it was so real i ducked, it looked no different to a real aircraft overhead, the sound and everything was perfect.

      Think about what he has just said: A hologram, (a shape that is the product of light being so real it made him duck), A hologram requires that the pathway along which the light for the hologram is being shone needs to be clear, if it is not clear, part of the light required to make the whole picture is missing, and this means a part of the hologram is missing.
      This would be a tell tale sign of holographic technology being used if present.
      Look at the second strike footage carefully, what do you notice?, anything?, are you really paying attention or just being a victim of your normalcy bias?, (always ask yourself this question).
      For what you have told yourself is normal, you are biased towards, and will have difficulty finding anything wrong with, and thusly, accepting the truth of your discoveries, if you do see something wrong becomes much much harder.

      So on the second strike footage of the plane in the few moments before it hits the tower, what do you see?.
      I see that some of the information that is being transmitted in the llight to make a hologram of an aircraft is in fact missing.
      The tail section of the aircraft, the left hand side stabilizing fin of the tail section inexplicably vanishes.
      On a solid real aircraft this is impossible, however on a hologram, if the light carrying the image of the plane is interrupted by smoke or debris in the atmosphere, whichever part of the plane in that piece of the beam will be missing from the rest, it happened to be the left side stabiliser of the tail section.

      Also the aircraft when it strikes the building shows absolutely no evidence of an impact, you would expect a building designed specifically to absorb the impacts of aircraft, that had interlocking moving parts, to have a certain kind of surface tension, there is no deformity on impact anywhere else on the building, just an immediate “cut out” of a plane shape.
      There are so many things wrong with the story, only an idiot could believe it to be real.

    • JohnnyB

      Only trouble it, the plane hitting the Twin Towers is on video.

      • excised

        And your normalcy bias is at work here, just because you see something on Teevee does not mean it is actually real.

      • excised

        And your normalcy bias is at work here, just because you see something on Teevee does not mean it is actually real.

        If you are really interested in the possibilities of the TV feeds being hi-jacked or corrupted by intelligence agencies to commit a massive psyop please watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE

    • ipod45

      Anybody that still think this is BS go on youtube and put in building 7 on 9/11 and watch the explosive going on inside the building, like you see when they do control building blasting,that was the clincher for me,

    • tanrat7

      I heard the planes were an illusion made by demons. no joke. It does make sense what this guy said, that its physically impossible for the planes to crash right through the buildings. It seems that an airplane would smash into pieces before it could get through the concrete and steel building. I watched a youtube video about magicians and satanic powers. The guy in the video explained about the planes and the Twin Towers.

    • Damn52

      If No planes flew into the towers,why make it appear that way? why target the towers,was there asbestos and the Government wouldn’t put up the $$$$ to fix it(get abatement teams in there to clear it out?). The Towers were in many movies,the were a staple of the USA. There are Millions of people including many of those that lost loved ones,say by NOT REBUILDING THE TOWERS,TELLS ANY ENEMY THAT WE WON’T BE DEFEATED OR BEAT. Give the new Towers a larger foundation,put in pillars to support floors,make center core stronger,IED detectors etc. Large Cal. guns hidden in landscape structures or place Towers up a few steps(steps would also be telescopic shield,triggered by sensors on building up to 2 miles around,if it if in the air and heading toward either/both towers,it will be destroyed.

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