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Interview with Claudia on her MIB Encounter

1. Could you tell us about your experience with the Men in Black and how exactly it took place?

I am a friend of Linda Peterson, a woman who used   to live across the street from my mother. We used to take the school bus   together as kids, so I’ve known her forever. She is a nurse at the Albany, NY   Veterans Hospital. As long as I’ve known Linda (age 57) she has been extremely   interested in anything pertaining to the paranormal, as I have always been.   Her interests were and are basically the ouiji boards, card readers, and   reading about paranormal subjects. Me? Well,   I’ve had too many experiences in my life to not acknowledge that there is more   to life than this mortal plane.  That is another story for another day.   

As a visual aid, imagine this: Back in the early   1800s the city fathers in Albany dedicated land, now known as Washington Park,   as a cemetery. However, due to massive flooding, many of the coffins came to   the surface (how awful!). So it was decided to move the cemetery to outside   the city, to a rural area on a hill. The cemetery itself is a walk through   history. From the early Dutch settlers like the Schuylers and Van Rensselaers,   to Civil War soldiers, to President of the USA Chester Arthur, to   a Secretary of the Interior under FDR, to the aristocracy..the old   monied families like the Cornings and  Erastus Dow Palmer, a very noted   American sculptor,  the cemetery has it all. Everyday folks reside there   as well, like my great-grandparents, uncles and cousins. But the biggest   celebrity to people in our world is the late Charles Fort, taking his rest   through eternity near a big pond!

It is a massive place, most beautiful, especially   in Fall when the old trees turn to vivid shades of orange and yellow and   blazing red colors, and it is very typical to see people picnic-ing   under one of the old shade trees, or the occasional runner, or  a woman   walking her dog. Also, there are historical tours given there, mostly near   Halloween. There are areas, however, that make one look over one’s shoulderand   give pause to one with a more nervous disposition. Ancient headstones are   scattered throughout the old sections, and dying old trees with knarled   branches seem to be watching you.

My niece Lisa’s neighbor is a young kid who works   there part-time, a groundskeeper. He told her that early in the dawn hours, or   just before (he opens the gates when it’s still dark) he will often times see   a lone woman in black walking near him. He will look up and she’ll nod   remorsefully and say very quietly, “Good day”..or “Good morning”. And she   disappears in front of him. He loves it and isn’t afraid at all. Imagine that!   It has happened many times, and he feels sorry for her -  a lady out of   her time – no doubt confused as to where she is..or what she   is.

Haunted? Oh, yes! Reported by many (keep this in   mind that I didn’t know this until Linda unloaded her story to me and we both   undertook a massive study into the cemetery!)……is that there appear mostly   at dusk dark orbs, and a funeral party of old black cars or a horse and   wagon with a casket in the back, circling slowly around the big pond and   followed by mourners from another time…long black dresses and men in top   hats and early Americana dress.

A large black dog paces people who walk down the   big macadam road as you come in the doors to the cemetery off Broadway. It is   bigger than normal, with red eyes..it moves very quickly at you, then   vanishes.

Sinister men in black and black vehicles are   seen…when you approach them, they vanish.

A couple in their pajamas hold hands and fly over the stones at dusk, then vaporize into thin air.

Civil War soldiers are seen occasionally walking the grounds.

My friend Jimmy was washing his car there in the   Sixties and he saw dark blue huge cars circling around him. The drivers had   “pork pie” hats on and were dark and swarthy. Finally, one pulled next to him   and in a gravelly voice urged him to “Do that somewhere else”.  He said   he thought they were Costa Nostra, but now he wonders if he didn’t   experience something very different.  

It is into this strange place that Linda came one   bright and sunny day.  Her story: almost   verbatim:

This day she had the urge to go to the Albany   Rural Cemetery..a sprawling hillside city of the dead located in the Town of   Menands, about 4 miles from Albany proper. She lives across the street and had   this day off. It was spur of the moment…she wanted to take a historical   tour.

In May of 2010  Linda called me as I   was typing a note to someone on my computer and asked me to sit down, that she   had the “motherlode” of all experiences! I was excited…so I listened to her   tale unfold. Keep in mind that she never heard of the men in black  – but   I had. I obtained a copy of Tim Beckley’s “The Silencers” some years back and   about once a year I re-read it, to my delight. It’s so “out there” that it   keeps grabbing my interest and I love reading it. Also, I had read a book by   Jim Keith on the subject. As I previously stated, Linda had never heard of   these MIBs.

This sprawling hillside city of the dead is   located in the Town of Menands, about 4 miles from Albany proper. She lives   across the street and had this day off. IAs I said, t was spur of the   moment…she wanted to take a historical tour of her very own.

No one was around. The place is filled with   little side roads, little gravel roads, tiny and winding. Some places have   these huge drop-offs where if you went over the edge you would be seriously   hurt.

She went up the first little hill………just   past the Gothic grey ancient old building that houses all the records of those   “resting” there. (Across the street is a crematorium……..) Milk weed was in   the air, and it covered her car. It covered just about everything. The little   weeds are a nusance..they stick to your windows. This day they were so   plentiful that she had her windshield wipers on.  Up she went to the top   of the hill. She had the urge to stop at this one place. NO ONE was there…If   so, she would have heard the tires going over the pebbles on the narrow   road.  

It struck her that she was utterly alone.   

She turned the car off, looking down as she took   the keys out of the ignition. In a split micro second she looked up and into   the rear view mirror and was stupified (her word) to see the biggest and   blackest and shiniest jet black SUV she had ever seen…”military   looking”….like it had just rolled out of a show room. NO MILK WEEDS, deadly   silent….Pitch black windows. It was so close to her back end that she   claimed it was like it was almost in the back seat.

Linda is fearless, and she got ticked off and   irritated to think that someone was playing with her, trying to scare her.   Then she wondered if they didn’t want to rob her, or worse. So she put the   keys back in and very gingerly moved ahead, very slowly, wondering what this   thing would do. Then it backed up and away from her and turned around in   a U-turn and headed toward what appeared to be another side hill. The thing   went down the hill, or so she thought, and when the top of it disappeared she   went into action and started to follow it. She stopped on a dime when the   so-called “road” turned out to be nothing but a chain link fence. On the other   side were nothing but graves! The car had literally disappeared. There   was no road AT ALL. I have gone there several times and still get chills   looking at it.

Now she was terrified, yet excited as the   adrenalin pumped through her veins…her words!  She turned around and   headed down the way she came in…but at the bottom of the hill, there stood,   in a mocking way. (so she felt)  the SUV! She felt it was waiting for   her.

Outside the thing on the driver’s side was a tall   thin man about 40 with a Fedora hat, dark wrap around sun glasses, black   pegged pants like the mid Sixties look, black shirt (looked brand new, his   whole outfit), and a dark complection. The window of the SUV was up, but he   was standing there talking to someone, or looking like he was trying to   talk to someone through the blackened window.  When Linda got right next   to him she stopped dead and he slowly turned around and gave her a weird half   smile and nodded. She jammed the floorboards and immediately looked into the   mirror, but the man had blinked out. She said in no way could he have gone   anywhere, as she looked immediately back to where he stood in less than a   second.

Armed with a vivid imagination and morbid   curiousity, I went online and started my study of this strange man in black.   For three months it is all I could think about. It haunted my dreams   even.

One day I took my mother and dog Stella to the   Delmar Shopping Plaza in Delmar, about five miles in the other direction,   outside of Albany. I wasn’t thinking MIB or anything..it was a typical day.   This area is home to upper echelon people – lawyers, doctors, etc. A typical   shopper would be a “Yuppie” looking woman with her soccer playing kids, very   conservatively dressed. Keep this in mind.

I pulled in front of the Dollar Store and to my   right was a really big SUV, black. I said to my mother, “Hey, maybe this   belongs to the guy who went after Linda!”…and we kind of chuckled. I went   inside and brought my purchase out and got in the car and had a word with a   school friend I happened to see. I remember it vividly, even the   conversation..She remarked on how clean my car was kept! She said a few words   to my mother and walked away. I went to pull out and to my utter astonishment,   from around BACK of the SUV was this little man, moving sort of quickly. He   had wrap around black glasses on, was short, three quarter length shirt   (either neatly pressed or right out of the box), brand new looking black pants   with a crease, black shiney shoes and black sox and a Fedora hat! I kid you   not. He looked so out of place. I wondered if he was a chauffeur but there   were no Limos around.

He kind of stuck his head half way in the window   by Stella and nodded in a very knowing way to me. I kind of sputtered to my   mother that, oh my Lord, this guy looks like one of THOSE guys! When he walked   in front of my car and up on the sidewalk he stopped suddenly and SLOWLY   turned toward me and kind of pulled his glasses down midway on his nose and   gave me what appeared to be the creepiest “knowing” look I ever saw. It was   like he was telling me………you wanted to see one, kid? Well, be   careful what you wish for.

I told MANY people of this experience and not   long ago my friend Lynda Harrington wrote and said she was looking for a   street in Albany. She lives out of town…and she wanted to visit a   girlfriend. She couldn’t find the street. No one was anywhere in sight except   an older man about 60 or older who looked at her from across the street. She   drove over by him and he grinned at her…………….He had a fedora hat on   and was all dressed in black! She said do you know where such and such a   street is and he actually had his hands stuck in his pockets all the time   (hiding his long, tapering fingers?) and said, “You’d better to back to where   you came in.” She said after she went home and thought about it something   definitely didn’t seem right about him AT ALL. So, maybe Linda Peterson’s   initial experience rubbed off on me, and my experience rubbed off on   Lynda Harrington. Lynda Harrington is very religious and feels it was a   demonic experience, and I concur.

2. What are your personal thoughts on the Men in Black as to who or what   they actually are?

Being raised a Christian and having read well   over 45 years on paranormal occurrences, I have come to believe that they are   demonic entitites, one of the “principalities and powers” the Bible speaks of   and tells us to have nothing to do with. Absolutely.

It grabs you, this subject, pulls you in deeper   and deeper, spurring you on to morbid imaginings and ignites a desire to learn   ever more about the dark side of the spiritual world. It is a trap and the   price it exacts is our very soul. Since this experience – and I am not afraid   to speak of it – I have become more engrossed in the positive side of   spirituality. In fact ..I plan on joining the Eastern Orthodox Church, the   oldest Christian church in the world. It is at treasure trove of the original   church fathers’ teachings..and they talk very intimately about these spirits   of darkness. I have learned much. I am not a Bible thumper…I am a free   thinker and will ever be curious about the other side because it only confirms   my religious beliefs. But I DO believe in virtual good vs. evil. I believe   that we are in the days just prior to the New World Order, and may God help   us…so the final war between the fallen angels and the good angels is   virtually at hand. We are going to live through this.  We were meant to   be happy and have a wonderful life. It is our inheritance. Yet we go the other   route, and get into trouble. Malevolent entities..probably the djinn, as Tim   Buckley reckons… are at the heart of this. I see now that there is an author   who has a book about the Dark Children. All over the country people are   reporting these dark eyed demonic looking children knocking on doors and   trying to get in. I want that book!  Children in Black! What   next!!

3. Have you had any UFO or paranormal experiences before your encounters   with the Men In Black?

Yes! In 1973 in the month of January my parents   went to …here we go again..the good old Delmar Plaza after supper. When they   returned they told me they saw “flying boxcars” over the plaza. wrapped in   Christmas looking lights. A few years later I read that these so called   UFO types (boxcars) are used in abductions. During this time a UFO flap that   engrossed the Upper Hudson Valley was taking place. The excellent book NIGHT   SEIGE tells all…apparently there is a UFO corridor between Southern   Connecticut and the Hudson Valley where the delta shaped black massive UFO was   seen by thousands at this time.

The following night…here we go AGAIN..my   grandmother and I were going to the plaza after we had supper and we were on Feura   Bush Road when we looked over the Helderberg Mountains and saw the biggest,   baddest RED moon….It looked like it was setting on the Earth. It was massive   beyond words. We were just immobilized and pulverized. We pulled over and just   stared at it. Was it the moon? Who knows..but as we continued on, over the   telephone wires it was like someone had a mammouth flash light and the tops of   the trees were bathed in a white light. The big “moon” disappeared and in its   place was the regular full moon, which looked normal.

Returning from Ireland 15 years ago I took off in   an American Eagle commuter plane out of JFK Airport and we were over Center   Moriches. Long Island,  near where Pan Am went down (I know because the   pilot told us where we were)..and I looked down at the Hudson River and saw a   silver disk pacing our plane. It was right above the water and it was doing   flips and turns, like it was performing for me. I wanted to say something to   someone but kept quiet.

I was engaged to my guy Kevin around this time   and we were on the Delmar bypass near my house in the height of rush hour. I   was driving and Kev yelled to LOOK UP LOOK UP!!! and there was this thing that   looked like an old fashioned grey metallic looking divers helmet..only it was   quite large….and just hovering over the road. No one seemed to see it but   us. Suddenly these lights flashed on under the thing…and it just   vanished.

4. What can you tell us about the haunted cemetary outside Albany where   Charles Fort is buried along with former president Chester Arthur?  

See above.

5. What about the mysterious black dogs? What could you tell us about   them?

One person reported they were in there after   dark..a young couple with their dog. There are street lights on the big   macadam main road…and they heard what sounded like an animal running behind   them. Their dog never reacted at all to it. It was running right next to them,   up on the grass. It was a huge, huge black dog with red eyes. It was there,   then it wasn’t. I read THIS particular story on the Internet.

6. Since telling your story about the Men in Black have others come   forward to share their stories with you. Do you have any others you can   share?

Yes, see above..Lynda Harrington.

7. How exactly did you and Timothy Beckley team up to get your story out   and hasn’t your story been in a few books or so?

 I wrote to Tim after Linda told me this because I   had his book. He liked the story and asked me to be on Coast to Coast with   him. After picking myself up off the floor, I accepted. This experience I will   always remember. Nervous as I was, I managed to choke out my story…at least,   Linda’s important story. Thank you for that opportunity, Tim! We have done   about 8 other radio shows together and he was nice enough to let me take a   whole hour the last time and talk about various paranormal happenings in   Upstate New York, where I live. Tim is kind of a hero to me, as I’ve read his   books for many moons. Meeting him last year was a wonderful treat. He   came up and I took him to the cemetery and we shot some footage. Unhappily,   Charlie Fort chose not to make an appearance, and the MIBs must have been   off haunting somewhere else.  

8. Have you visited the graves of Charles Fort at the cemetary in Albany   and I am curious do alot of people visit there to pay their respects to the   legend of Fortean?

Yes! With Tim Beckley, his associate and my   niece, Lisa Jeffers. It was a surreal experience, but, alas, nothing   materialized for Tim. We should have gone at dusk..when the action starts   rolling! Maybe another time, Tim.

 I don’t think most people even KNOW about Charles   Fort, only Forteans like ourselves. I didn’t know he was buried there until I   researched the cemetery. I was blown away!

9. Do you feel as if you attracted these experiences to you paranormally   and if so why exactly?

Yes, I think Linda saw the Man in Black and   disappearing car because I had an interest and I would talk about them. . I   think they know what we are going to do, I really do. They are the “watchers”   and know a chump like me when they see one. I must admit that I was enthralled   and entranced by these things for many, many months………and I told my   story to the world on Coast..so, maybe that was their plan all   along.  

10. Do you have any links or a personal email you’d like to share in case   anyone would like to get in touch with you for questions or for interviews?   Thanks.

 People can write me at [email protected]………….I   won’t give out my regular email address just in case one of “them” want to   write me..Ha. Thanks, Jeff……………Take care.   Claudia