Is The Sun God?

Interview with Gregory Sams

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1. In your book Sun of gOd you bring forth the scenario that the Sun is a conscious being. Could you explain that?

Sure. I’m not bringing forth any new scenario, just taking the encrusted dust of centuries off what was once the default, intuitive response that we have had, across the world and throughout history to that bringer of the light of life that crosses our skies each day. It was not science, but a jealous and powerful church that made us think otherwise. They did a good job of burning this common understanding out of our culture. But when we look at solar science and the behaviour of other stars, we find that the science makes more sense when allied to the concept of stars being life forms.

It is curious how many people’s automatic response is to think this a crazy idea, considering that the invisible energy of consciousness is widely considered to be the greatest mystery of the human condition. How can we not even consider the idea of this existing in the giant, life-bringing energetic being that is a star? And, of course, there is the simple heart-to-heart argument: Is it not likely that that which brings us the light of life might know life itself?

2. I also agree that the Sun is more than we think it is and alive and intelligent. I have always noticed an interaction between me and the Sun energetically all my life. Do you think the Sun is a manifestation of God aka our Creator in a sense?

If you want to pin me down on this, I will side with Zoroaster and Akhenaten who both saw light itself as the ultimate supreme deity, and our Sun as the local representative – our local agent for the divine light of life. Hence the title of the book is Sun of gOd, not Sun is gOd (the spelling with a capital O is to clearly differentiate from the Biblical character). I conclude my chapter on light by saying: “Perhaps light, the major expression of the electromagnetic force saturating our Universe is itself the Universal Mind, and the Universe we know is but its physical body and organ of re-generation.” Since writing the book I have come more firmly to believe this is the case.

3. Ancient cultures and belief systems hold the Sun in high regard and some just right out call it a god. My question is this, is there a source that all Suns are connected to in our Universe? And what would you call this?

We know that stars are connected to each other by electromagnetic fields stretching throughout galaxies. We also see EM fields spanning the universe, connecting galaxies together. I suggest that the “source” is really the bottom up construct of all those connected galaxies, each one of which is comprised of its connected stars. And light, energized photons, are the agents of the electromagnetic force. Zoroaster and Akhenaten would just be nodding their heads if we were telling them about the quantum understanding of light we have today. And they’d be thinking: “”Yeah, well, tell me something new.”

It’s a bottom up system, like the cells in our body, each one of which has 5-10 million “residents” keeping it all together, or the 100′s of billions of neurons in our brain, or the termites in a termite mound, or the water molecules in a thundercloud. It’s like looking for the one tree that runs the forest, or the mountain that holds the range together. Let’s think bottom-up instead of top-down, which is a very homo sapien device that is rare to non-existent in the natural world.

4. There are the stories of the Green Knight in Arthurian legend and in Superman of course these characters get their powers from the Sun. I think all of us do on some level. I have noticed when I am tired I can go out in the Sun and close my eyes and stand there and white light fills my body and I feel reenergized. Or when I’ve meditated near an open window. What are your thoughts on this?

I agree, and like to point out as often as I can that we feel bright and uplifted when we open the curtains on a nice Sunny day, in a way that cannot be mimicked with bright lighting and heating inside a room. Sunrays are the original good vibration and we seldom stop to question why they make us feel so good. Light is the power behind all life on the planet and we get most of ours through plants and the animals that eat them. But it’s always good to get some light direct from the beneficent source itself. I just love soaking up the Sun’s rays, and sending some of mine back.

5. I believe we all have souls that are made out of the same stuff as stars and the Sun and I have often wondered if when we die if the Sun is a doorway of sorts or another dimension. Like drops from an Ocean returning to the Ocean. The same with the Sun aka the Source and our souls. Any thoughts on this?

You could be right about the doorway to other dimension, but whenever I am asked this type question I imagine that I am a molecule of water in a mountain lake, wondering what life will be like as vapour, or what it was once like as ice. And whilst I am interested in the subject I don’t think that knowing the actual answer would have any bearing upon how I live my life here and now. If spirit continues, then this life will have an effect upon it, and if not, then it’s been a fun ride.

6. What are your thoughts on Chaos in our galaxies and in our world? How does Chaos fit in to the scheme of things?

Chaos theory? That prompted me to open a shop dedicated to the subject, Strange Attractions, in 1991, and later to write my first book “Uncommon Sense – the State is Out of Date’ (It’s kind of timely now and the update will soon go digital).

Chaos theory shows how the world self-organizes to build complex functioning structures using simple rules. Whether we see it in living or non-living systems we see similarity in the activity. It uses all the tools at its disposal, whether a weather system or a galaxy is being formed. Indeed, we often see similar shapes manifesting though many systems, such as the spiral.

If the EM force is, indeed, the equivalent of the ultimate divine conscious force, then we see that at play throughout all the elements of our world. I know it’s an old idea, but one of the routes I took within my recent book, Sun of gOd, explored just how it is that consciousness pervades the very electro-magnetic fabric of the Universe.

We know a lot about the mechanics of the human body and believe ourselves to be conscious. We also know the mechanics of the thundercloud, but dismiss the possibility of consciousness playing any part the process. Why?

7. You quote a lot of people in your book who mention the Sun. Who are some of your favorite peeps in the book that you quote who talk about the Sun?

For pure simplicity I love Galileo Galilei’s quote: “The Sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.”

Then there is the old standard from Jane Taylor in the 19th century, which I may have taken more to heart than most children. “Twinkle, twinkle, little star. How I wonder what you are!”

And from American poet Ralph Waldo Emerson: “The Sun shines and warms and lights us and we have no curiosity to know why this is so; but we ask the reason of all evil, of pain and hunger, and mosquitoes and silly people.” Well, I do ask why.

8. Could you tell us some ancient text or scriptures that speak of the Sun in a divine way and from what belief systems they came from? One of my favorites is “O Ye in your shining disc above the Horizon. I know the secrets of the seven cows that give substance to life and the soul.” Or something like that from The Egyptian book of the Dead. I’ve shouted this at the Sun before.. lol

Ancient Scriptures – I will just give you my favorite translation of the Gayatri Mantra, often seen as the Hindu equivalent to the Lord’s Prayer. It embodies a more uplifting message than the Lord’s Prayer which is about food on our plate, sinning, temptation, and top-down control. I actually wrote a chapter for Sun of gOd comparing the two, but left it out in the final cut.

Aum bhoor bhuvah svah
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo nah prachodayaat

English translation of the words:

Aum a salutation to gOd
Bhoor the eternal
Bhuvah the creator
Svah the independent
Tat eternal
Savitur Sun, as the creative principle of light
Varenyam supreme gOd
Bhargo light that bestows wisdom, bliss and life
Devasya light of gOd
Dheemahi we meditate
Dhiyo intellect
Yo nah lead us
Prachodayaat toward illumination

9. There’s a lot of weird stuff going on with the Sun right now. From Solar flares, to people claiming UFOs are hanging out near it. I even read in one Dolores Cannon book recently that people live on the Sun or in it. I know some of it sounds silly but what are some of your weirdest or grandest thoughts about the Sun and our connection to it?

I’ve seen some of that “weird stuff” and as you can imagine, I get sent links to it by my friends whenever it comes out. Some of them are intriguing, but I must confess to not to spending a lot of time studying them carefully. It may be significant but for me the most important “weird stuff” is the living nature of the source of life, and the weird part is that across the planet most people are completely oblivious to it.

10. What is Gregory Sams up to in the future, book wise? I loved your book Sun of gOd and I am definitely curious to what you are up to next.

I’ve done many different things in my life, with some success, and the motivation has always been to effect positive change in our culture. I am as much a restaurateur, publisher, shopkeeper, wholesaler, and manufacturer, as an author. So when I started selling organic and natural foods in 1967 I didn’t move onto creating the VegeBurger until that process was “on the road” so to speak. And when a market for vegetarian foods was established I moved on again, to spread the word about chaos theory.

Sun of gOd was written to inform people of the true nature of our Sun and other stars. This process is ongoing, with me giving regular talks on the subject and doing whatever I can to bring our life-giving Sun back in from the cold. Those who have read the book get the message – it’s really kind of obvious once you think about it (and overcome seventeen centuries of Church programming).

So to answer your question: whilst there may be a few hot ideas sparking around in my mind, none of them are strong enough to outshine the light of the Sun.

Gregory Sam’s links

http://www.sunofgod.net/

http://www.gregorysams.com/

You can purchase Gregory’s book Sun of gOd here.

About Gregory Sams

The story of Gregory Sams is the remarkable story of a British counter-cultural change agent and health food pioneer from the 1960′s. In 1967, with his brother Craig, he founded Seed restaurant, the first natural and organic eatery in the UK, whose regulars included John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Marc Bolan and the core of London’s flower-power generation. Ceres Grain Store in the Portobello Road was founded soon thereafter because people wanted to cook this food at home. Then came Harmony Magazine, and Seed, the Journal of Organic Living because people wanted to read about these new ‘natural foods’ followed by Harmony/Whole Earth foods in 1970, distributing the first organic foods in the UK. In 1982, Gregory made history with another first when he created and christened the VegeBurger. The world’s first commercially available vegetarian burger, he was soon selling over 250,000 of them a week and established the market for vegetarian foods. “Vegeburger” entered the language and is now a common item on menus throughout the world.

In the 80′s, the ever-exploratory Gregory became fascinated with the new scientific ideas of ‘chaos theory’. So inspired was he by its implications that he founded Strange Attractions, the world’s first ever shop dedicated to chaos theory. Trading as chaOs worKs, he went on to produce and license fractal images worldwide on everything from posters to jigsaw puzzles to book covers to fashion fabrics. Gregory’s fascination with chaos theory however, was not just for the mesmerizing images but for the important social lessons inherent in the discovery of self-organizing systems throughout the world. This led him to write his first book, Uncommon Sense – the State is Out of Date (1998), It was well received and changed many lives.

Sams’ lifelong passions: health, culture and consciousness culminated in the writing of Sun of gOd. From 2000 – 2007 Gregory worked on this book, in which, as he puts it, “the biggest elephant-in-the-room that you could ever imagine is unveiled.