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I Live in Sodom and You Live in Gomorrah Because America Is Dead

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The United States Supreme Court as well as the international bankers (e.g. Goldman Sachs, Bank of America), are the personification of the evil the Bible speaks about in Sodom and Gomorrah, and these servants of Satan have hijacked our Republic.  

Our Republic is ruled by men and women who serve the ideals and values of Satan. They will surely be destroyed by God’s judgment. In the interim, are you going to continue to let them take you with them?

America Is Plunging Into the Depths of Hell on Earth

The signs are everywhere, the global elite are preparing to initiate a series of false flag attacks, impose martial law under Jade Helm, collapse the economy, commence WW III and force Americans to become totally subservient and dependent upon the government, a government controlled by the will of Satan.

The Ten Commandments Are the Foundation of Our Legal Code

10 commandmentsMany of us lament the fact that the Constitution is no longer revered and honored by our governmental leaders. They raise their right hands, pledge a solemn oath (“…So help me God.) to defend the Constitution and then subsequently spend their elected term dismantling the Constitution that they pledged to protect and defend from enemies both foreign and domestic. Why?

Every first year law student is taught that the Ten Commandments are the foundation for our legal system in America. It is not a coincidence that our Congress and our Supreme Court commence each session with a prayer, albeit the prayers offered today are perfunctory only.

The Gay Marriage Ruling

Isn’t it ironic that the Supreme Court says a prayer to the almighty God and the proceeds to play the role of activist in the name of Satan? For the record, I will state that I do not care what sexual perversion people commit with other consenting adults behind closed doors. I leave the judgment to God as I have enough to answer for in my own life. However, when our Supreme Court plays the role of “community activist”, oversteps its bounds and unconstitutionally rules that “gay marriage” is now forcibly legal in all 50 states, I have an issue with my Supreme Court.

Marriage is a power reserved for the states and in no way should the federal government have any jurisdiction, whatsoever!  I never thought I would see the day when the Supreme Court would degenerate to low level of President Obama’s community activism, Acorn style. But that day has arrived.

Gay Marriage and the Bible

In the interest of brevity, I will only provide a few references to God’s view of homosexuality from what the Bible says on the subject.

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” Leviticus 18:22

“There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a Sodomite of the sons of Israel.” Deuteronomy 23:17

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” Romans 1:26-27

Bing a homosexual does not preclude one from being a Christian. It should not preclude one from holding a job, owning a house and even voting. However, let’s not pretend that the behavior is pleasing to God anymore than idolatry, fornication and thievery. Further, this country is, or more accurately, was founded on Christian principles. Yesterday’s Supreme Court ruling serves to undermine our collective Christian heritage and the very tenets of our national traditions in the same vein as the legalization of abortion in which the dark forces of this nation have murdered over 60 million babies. And please spare me the it a woman’s choice nonsensical argument. A fetus is not part of a woman’s body, it is a separate and living human being. Please allow me to speak to the globalists in their own Agenda 21 language in which they have elevated all forms of life to a position of equality with humans in violation of the Bible. Attention globalists, we have the distinction of being the only species on the planet that murders it young in the womb.We are the only mammal that now practices homosexuality in the spirit of the “natural order” of things. stick that in your Agenda 21 cap.

Where we were once blessed by God, we are now we are seeing proof that we are presently cursed by our God. Maybe this is why I cannot find America in the Book of Revelations in the final days.

The Dissenting Supreme Court Justice Opinions

Justice Roberts’s dissenting argument centered around the need to preserve states’ rights over what he viewed as following the turn of public opinion. Roberts stated that by ruling in favor of gay marriage, “Five lawyers have closed the debate and enacted their own vision of marriage as a matter of constitutional law.”

Justice Scalia wrote that while he has no personal opinions on whether the law should allow same-sex marriage, he feels very strongly that it is not the place of the Supreme Court to decide. As he wrote “But the Court ends this debate, in an opinion lacking even a thin veneer of law.” Scalia also stated he wanted to write a separate dissent “to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy.”

Justice Thomas scathingly criticized the majority opinion as “at odds not only with the Constitution, but with the principles upon which our nation were built.” Thomas also stated that Justice Kennedy and the Court’s liberal wing are invoking a definition of “liberty” that the Constitution’s framers “would not have recognized, to the detriment of the liberty they sought to protect.” Thomas also stated that this ruling represented a perversion of the Constitution and its traditions.

The Real Reason Why the Constitution Must Be Destroyed

satan george bushIn short, the Constitution must be destroyed because it, in part, represents the values of Jesus Christ. The Satanists are roaming the halls of Congress and through the oval office and are actively and consciously dismantling the Christian religion in the United States.

We have a Muslim occupying the White House. His occupation forces, the DHS, have declared that Christians who believe the Bible is the final word of God, are domestic terrorists as per the MIAC Report. Prayer is banned in our schools. Yet, lifestyle perversions which are offensive in the sight of God, are honored and given special status in our new laws. We live in a world which has been turned upside down.


god abandons americaWhat would make you turn your back on your children and abandon them and let them suffer the consequences of their bad decision making? Most of you cannot even imagine doing such a thing. Yet, our God is preparing to judge this nation in a way that we have never seen. How displeasing must our actions be in the eyes of God that he is about to visit the same fate of Sodom and Gomorrah upon the people of the United States?

History Is the Great Teacher

In Genesis 19, the Bible speaks to God’s judgment of the unholy, the perverts and the evil.

goldman-sachs-stealingI believe that history is a great teacher and we can all benefit greatly from learning the lessons of history and the Bible is the greatest History book ever written.

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah has special relevance to the time and place that we live in today. The bankers, which have hijacked our government through legalized bribery (i.e. the PACs), consists of people from such organizations as Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo Wachovia and HSBC banks. Goldman Sachs have collectively been convicted for things like child trafficking, running drugs, laundering drug money, stealing investors money, have foreknowledge and moving money as proof of foreknowledge to events like 9/11, the housing bubble, the Gulf Oil Explosion, etc. Nobody ever goes to jail, they just pay a small fine, as part of the cost of doing business, and they continue spreading their poison among humanity.

The aforementioned organizations are run by individuals who are pure evil. They use graft, corruption and murder to obtain their goals. They answer to no authority and their values represent the worst of what the Bible refers to as Satanic.

If Jesus were to walk the sidewalks of Wall Street, he would chase these Satanic money changers from their money temples as he did over 2,000 years ago.

I Live in Sodom and You Live in Gomorrah

sodom and gomorrah 2Abraham asked if the Lord would spare the two decadent cities if fifty righteous people lived there. The Lord said yes. Boldly, Abraham kept bargaining down, until God agreed not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if even ten righteous people lived there. Then the Lord departed. Unable to find even 10 righteous men, the Lord subsequently rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying the buildings, the people, and all the vegetation in the plain. This is our future if we do not repent and rediscover our true Christian heritage. The wages of sin are death and destruction. Apparently, we have learned very little from the lessons of history.  

If the Lord were to visit Washington DC, he would find that there were not 50 righteous men, there were not 40 righteous men, not 30, not 20, not even 10 righteous men and just like Sodom and Gomorrah, we will surely be destroyed. Our government is the source of nearly every war on this planet which kills and maims untold numbers of innocent people including the very old and the very young. Our government is controlled by the minions of the NWO, many of which are empowered to serve Lucifer. Our government and our military no longer serve the people of this country. Prior to the 2008 first round of bailouts, former Goldman Sachs executive and the Secretary of the Treasury stated that if we did not bail out Wall Street, we would see tanks and troops in our streets in one of the most treasonous statements ever uttered by a government official. And before the Libyan invasion, the Congress was told that our military was now under the control of NATO and the UN and that they had no say in whether we go to war, or not. Our country and government have been totally hijacked and it is not just the bankster thugs who have stolen our most precious resources. The minions of the NWO are controlled by Satan. This is not hyperbole, please consider the following quote from an United Nations official:

“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.”

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations


Obama is also cut from the same Satanic cloth as are most of our leaders. Obama may be more subtle than Spangler but the final goal for the President is one in the same.


This is who and what we serve in government. Our entire society has been “paganized.” Your children have been taught to worship the earth in the pagan religion known as GAIA and bow before the Agenda 21 alter of sustainability. The entire ecology and climate change cult is controlled by Luciferians such as Spangler. “My people change because of a lack of knowledge.”

God Is Merciful

 I know that some of you are protesting my proclamation that most of America is decidedly sinful and as a result, are very decadent. Some of you are screaming profanities at the computer screen as you read these words and as you proclaim that you are not evil like the banker controlled politicians in government. Yes you are, or you would never tolerate leaders who have done things like murder over a million Iraqi’s who did nothing to us as America continues to add to our list of transgressions.

The evil people who have hijacked our government are the shining reflection of what we all represent in our lives. They are us and we are them. If we were truly righteous, we would never have permitted the people into office that we have, and, yet, we have allowed them to stay there. We serve evil whether we realize it or not!

What most do not comprehend is that if, we the people, were to change we would see a corresponding change in our leaders. This is not a magic prescription, it is the way the universe works. There are physical laws and there are spiritual laws and just because the many may have not been taught the spiritual laws, it does not mean that they do not exist. The spiritual can supplement the physical. The physical can never supplement the spiritual. My son once asked me how he could avoid doing the evil things that he sees from some of our leaders. I told him to read the Bible and that will lead him to ask the right questions. I planted a seed which I hope will bear fruit in my son. Perhaps these words will plant a seed in America which will spread like virus among the people. Many in the Patriot movement claim they want to reclaim their freedom. Yet, they will not honor the source of all free will? That makes no sense. 

When one looks at the true nature of their soul, serving the evil that runs this country makes no sense. It may someday cost me my life, but I will never serve evil again, I just pray that God gives me the strength to live up to the courage of my convictions when my “Mark of the Beast” moment of decision comes.


Somebody once asked me how would I know when the NWO crowd was going to make its move and push for a complete tyrannical takeover of the planet. I told them that when they begin to persecute Christians, we know the takeover is on the horizon. Why Christians, they asked? Because our beliefs are antithetical to the doctrine of the bankers running the government. That day is finally upon us as DHS has unmistakably declared war against Christians. No, you will not hear this in your churches today because there is a strong likelihood that your clergy are card carrying members of the Clergy Response Team who are pledged to make their flock fall into line in which they do not preach the word of God, but rather preach the word of government through a false interpretation of Romans 13. And who is government? Reread the preceding paragraphs and you will see that ultimately, many, if not most, of our clergy are now preaching the word of Satan.

Make no mistake about it, the FEMA Camps were not built for the coming hordes of illegal aliens that FEMA claims they were built for. They were built for veterans, constitutionalists, Libertarians, but most of all, they were built for the Christians.

At the end of the day, all we can control is our commitment to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Meanwhile, I live in Sodom, while you live in Gommorah because America is dead!

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  • Shaun

    LEGALLY ALL MARRIAGES are between your LEGAL FICTION “PERSON” and your spouse’s LEGAL FICTION “PERSON” and the CORPORATE STATE INC. Enjoy your stay in the Matrix!

    • hateriarch

      True. A real marriage, the coming together of 2 people under God is something completely different and the state has no place in it. This is why marriage was always at churches. Never had anything to do with the state. Marriage licenses are a contract between you, your spouse, and the state. This is why the state can take all your money, your house, and your kids, and give it all the some woman who lied to you, cheated on you, and generally failed to keep her end of the contract.

      Has God abandoned America? No! America has abandoned God.

      • WatchmanOfEzekiel33

        Truth America IE: Manasseh has abandoned YHWH and will pay the price. YHWH have mercy upon us all for we know not what we do.

    • Mark Brander

      Mark, I am sending this letter to you, but I feel that this message needs to be placed on the website in the news part.

      I am looking today at the rainbow flags, the stir in the White House, and all the hoopla about gay marriage and this victory, that the Supreme Court gave to gays.

      So sad for America, Mark!

      Mark, as so many souls have passed through these gates and portals, I have heard so many of their conversations because of my work regarding these gates and portals. And, on several different occasions, I have heard some of these Satanists tell about sodomy and how it weakens the connection of the soul to the body. I believe that is why they literally want to sodomize everyone! And, as this connection of the soul to the body is weakened, demons can more easily infiltrate these bodies of the sodomites and attach themselves within these bodies.

      And, the other part, from what I understand, is how easy it for these wicked ones to mind control those, who commit sodomy. Because of sodomy, and because of the this loose connection that the soul has to the body, these bodies can be so full of so many demons, that the person is continually confused about proper choices due the infiltration of the demons.

      And, lastly, there are those, who sell their souls to Satan; and as I understand it, because they have sold their souls to Satan, Satan believes that he owns their souls! And, from what I understand he is able to scalp, to take, or to remove some of these souls from these bodies.

      From their own confessions, Mark, we can see why these Satanists are pushing sodomy on the people. I so greatly lament about this, Mark, and how Satan will take so many souls into hell because of this grievous error.

      I feel so badly for the people of this nation and of this world. I so greatly travail about these souls and feel so sad about these things. I feel so heartbroken, about this grievous error.

      Read Linda’s prophecies at

  • Anonymous

    The mainstream, Christian denominations have already been teaching that men and women are interchangeable, for at least 50 yrs.

    “Make no mistake about it, the FEMA Camps were not built for the coming hordes of illegal aliens that FEMA claims they were built for. They were built for veterans, constitutionalists, Libertarians, but most of all, they were built for the Christians.”

    You’re not being accused of collapsing the social safety net, nor or of unraveling civil society, except by your advocacy of reprobates and their natural rights.

    There are existential, socially-utilitarian excuses, to use the camps for their stated purpose, also to keep the semblance of a church.

    Nazi Germany, Red China, and Tribulation movies have churches.

  • my2pesos

    To be Fair ~ Biro* Fate……. Biro = Pen

    The Fairness Doctrine ~ Iron Fisted Chastener

    Jesus ‘n’ God ~ Judge Sons

  • The Watcher

    Bend over!

    • barbF

      There is a lot of bad and scary news out there and many “Watchmen” have been faithful to report all of it; but be encouraged with some VERY GOOD NEWS that shows that God is faithful and JUST too: It appears that some of the “religious” predators are being found out and dealt with.
      Here is some good news for a change:
      ***fair use***
      Trevor Cook Sentenced to 25 Years in Prison for Swindling 923 Investors out of $158 Million
      U.S. Attorney’s Office
      August 24, 2010
      “Following today’s sentencing hearing, United States Attorney for the District of Minnesota, B. Todd Jones, said, “Affinity fraud is a horrible crime. Victims are swindled not only of their money, but of their trust. Cook preyed upon those with whom he made connections through church or in the community. Today he atoned for his crimes.””
      ***fair use***

  • stonehillady

    It’s only a matter of time that some of these sleeper cell ISIS that are plotted all around the nation go into one of our cities Gay Bath Houses and Bars and kill or torch dozens of Sodomites. Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked bathboy Obama’s old Bath House in Chicago and culled a dozen or so there. Hope Obama decides to plant Homeland Security in front of these places with all their gadgets and devices to screen everyone walking in because that is what will happen as surely they are plotting something. Imagine that scenario.

  • Ian Williams

    The Law was given for transgressions until the Promise should come. The Law is Satan’s domain as he is cast out of heaven, and being an angle, has no free will of his own, so he must gain access to human free wills, as humans are made in God’s image. The Aramaic scriptures refer to him as “the Policeman of this world here”.

    Things will never be OK until there is only One King, One faith, One baptism and One God to all and in all. If such as state of grace occurred, there would be no need of any more Law, each would know in their own hearts to do right. But for now we have the Law, and Satan, and the world trying to recreate the ancient empire as a counterfeit to the kingdom of God. And the darkness that men chose instead of the light shall be brought to the Light and all shall be revealed – the dark has to come out so the coming of the Light may destroy it.

    There has been nearly 2000yrs of meddling with the message which Paul warned of with tears, such that the situation has gotten so bad, that only One can set it right – and boy, is He going to…starting with sorting out His sons…

  • Bad-Clown

    Does yous people even knows god made new rules, what replaces commandments 1 to 4:
    1. Stops eatin’ my animals!
    2. GET REAL!
    3. Don’t use a $10 word when a 50-cent word will do.
    4. Stops prayin’, and gets off yer ass!

  • OldTradCat

    People of faith deeply deplore seeing our country take one more step in rebellion against God’s law. The answer of God—when He does not express His legitimate wrath—is abandoning men to their depraved will, one of the most terrible chastisements because it forbids any possibility of waking up and reacting. As the Psalmist says: “nisi Dominus… in vanum laboraverunt homines… if the Lord does not build the house, then those who build it work in vain.” (Ps. 127:1)

  • Ariel

    Hateriarch-are you serious? Please read some history books, before you make an opinion. Yahweh, God of Israel, NEVER expected us to give any false “Church” a right to marry someone! See, since Yahweh knows all your acts, don’t you think he knows if you are getting married??? Just like we don’t need a priest for confession and repentance, we don’t need them to marry us. In the past, a man and a women would marry in front of Yahweh, simply by stating few simple sentences. They had a witness or two, so that person can vouch in front of others that they did marry. Simple as that. Just like Catholic Church invented the need for a priest to hear your confession, they also invented a rule that only priests can marry you. In certain European countries, people married without priests “help” until only few hundred years ago. So, people like you advocate oppression by churches, which is just as bad as oppression by secular government. So sick!

  • NWO for Dummies.

    Homosexuality is adultery taken to its most depraved, disgusting level. thats why it was punishable by death under the Mosaic law and imprisonment or worse throughout 2000 years of Christian and Moslem and probably most other history up until the present…..which indicate we are living in the end times as we can see by the signs all around us.

  • Bigbadcuda

    God made gay people too! If god hated us so much, why would he have made us?! :neutral:

    • NWO for Dummies.

      You’re baiting. No one is so stupid as to pose a question like that. but depravity does affect your mind so maybe not. God hears the prayers with sincerity of every sinner and answers. the hatred of christians is never directed against the person who is inviolable, made in the image and likeness of God, but against the sin. Our reaction to unrepentant sinners is real not fake sadness and tears not hatred. we see the fate of those who die in grave sin and our hearts grieve indescribably and break. seek the lord while there is still time. the door is closing.

      • Bill Lyle

        What a BS cop out. “God hates the sin, not the sinner”?
        If there’s anything I’ve learned from speaking with the more learned members of this site, it’s that putting words in God’s mouth, is just as grave a sin as any other. Bigbadcuda has a point. If mankind is made in God’s image, then homosexuality must be part his divine plan (don’t feed me any Free Will garbage, either.That’s just another cop out, used by anyone who who will drop their “divine plan” beliefs, to justify their contradictions)
        I always get a kick out of “Christians”, who insist on looking to the Old Testament to justify their bigotry; when Christ said nary a word on the subject of homosexuality. He said to “Love one-another”- quite a departure from the OT, which was much more violent and bigoted. Are we seeing a pattern? Christ brought an addendum to the OT. To my understanding, Jesus did not stutter, and did not say “Love one another, unless they’re gay.”.

        • CrowPie

          I find it heart wrenching that what was meant to be a legal move that made it possible for a group of our society to legally leave all their worldly goods to someone they love upon their death, to cover them under insurance, to have them be legally able to speak on their behalf in the case of an accident, or to adopt a child that needs a home has caused such animosity.

          The ruling from the Supreme Court does not start new sexual behavior nor would its being struck down have ended any such behaviors. It only allows the legal assurances above. It also insures that every divorce lawyer in the U.S. will have greater job security.

          • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

            “I find it heart wrenching that what was meant to be a legal move that made it possible for a group of our society to legally leave all their worldly goods to someone they love upon their death…”

            Considering that a Last Will and Testament serves exactly that purpose, the argument is not a strong one CrowPie, in light of the dire implications.”

            “…to cover them under insurance…”

            That is a stronger point, but in the face of what is written, what does it really count for?

            “…to have them be legally able to speak on their behalf in the case of an accident, or to adopt a child that needs a home has caused such animosity.”

            Where is animosity in this, the immediate portion of the comment thread, into which you have included your contribution? Is this not merely a civil discussion? There is mileage being seized by an advancing agenda which uses the points you are making to the furtherance of their motives, all questions of legitimacy to those points aside. This particular behavior has been quantified very specifically in Scripture. This is not something about which the Most High has been ambiguous. It is not for nothing that the motto of this ‘movement’ is PRIDE. It is not for nothing that their emblem is a six-colored rainbow (that is, a corrupted counterfeit of the Sign of God). I understand your nature is to defend the people who are most directly affected by this decision, but the fact remains that when man’s legal system attempts to contradict God’s Legal System, there is great trouble at the door.

            “The ruling from the Supreme Court does not start new sexual behavior nor would its being struck down have ended any such behaviors.”

            Who would argue to the contrary? What the decision does is mandate that states sanction this scripturally illegal behavior. That is a recipe for disaster.

            “It only allows the legal assurances above.”

            It does far more than just that. Provisions could have been made to accommodate the assurances you speak of which did not involve the biblically sacred institution of marriage. Marriage exists for one reason only. Moreover, the importance of marriage, from a prophetic perspective, is of tremendous importance throughout the entire Scriptural Narrative. Marriage is an image of something. It is something about which we are meant to contemplate and to study. Marriage is of paramount importance in the Scriptural Narrative and it has just been ‘tagged’ with something, which God says He hates, by a rebellious people (the USA).

            I believe you know me not to be a bigoted man, CrowPie. And I would be in violation of the Commandment if I harbored disgust or disdain for this group of people because of their lifestyle, or because of what they feel defines them. I harbor no such disdain. But I am very cognizant of the importance of this decision from the perspective of OVERTHROWING the Biblical Structure our Father in Heaven has established throughout His Creation. This is about inversion. This is about Luciferian principles. It is about hatred of the Most High.

            That’s what’s really at stake, CrowPie. That’s why this is so important and worth our attention. This is a dire trend which will not be reversed until it is reversed by Him permanently. These thoughts can be expressed without excoriating the people in question who are, by-and-large, suffering from a spiritual disease. They are likewise suffering from great spiritual error.

          • CrowPie


            First let me make a correction. The animosity I was referring to was the general ‘national’ condition we find ourselves in…not the gentle members of the thread. My apologies for any offense or confusion for the less than careful wording.

            I had hoped….that you would know that my love for The Lord and His Word comes first in all things. My love for the members of society come second.

            That being said…let me make a second comment.

            The All Mighty loves his children and hates sin. We should all understand that this situation is centuries old and we cannot cure it. And the fact is if we want to continue to openly practice our faith, we have to realize others simply do not have a faith/belief system at all. Those people live in the U.S. and in relation to us on a daily basis. We all have to live peaceably together….ones rights ending where the others begins.

            Those in government who hold a position and find that their faith conflicts with that position must remember that they learned in high school……’Separation of church and State.”

            If they cannot remember this and want a government run based only on religious laws they can move to the middle east where women wear burqas and men are beheaded for minor offenses.

            Now…..before you think me provocative….because I suspect at this point you may…….I am not.

            This is why. ONLY GOD can bind a marriage. It’s that plain and simple. A representative of a State has no power (as narcissistic as they may be) it’s the STATE (the entity of the (paper) state that endorses the paper contract of the gay agreement.

            What Christians (scratch that…I know how you cringe at that word….Believers…is that better?) What believers do when they stand before the All Mighty Creator and enter into Marriage is a Holy Act, witnessed by Him and not a government insurance policy.

            In short….there is still no such thing as Gay Marriage. It is an impossibility as God would never witness it.

            It is so impossible….I didn’t mind that they asked for the legal concessions.

          • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!


            Frankly, this is a distinction I don’t think I’ve heard made before anywhere. It is a rather elegant distinction, to be sure. And you have included very valid points in your synopsis. From a human perspective, I can find little with which to disagree.

            The problem is that I don’t believe the Highest is going to see things that way. I would emphasize this is only my informed opinion, based on what I read in Scripture. You wrote:

            “In short….there is still no such thing as Gay Marriage.”

            And on the one hand you make a very good point. On the other hand, I don’t think it matters.

            If the Gentiles were a wholly separate species, amongst whom we all had to live, then the concept of live-and-let-live would perhaps demand more weight than I am willing to give it. But those are not the conditions in which we find ourselves living. If again there are Israelites at the heart of this matter, as indeed there may be, be they ever so ignorant of their own identity, I suggest again that a live-and-let live policy would be even LESS appropriate, considering the expressed prohibitions of the Law. We see in Scripture time after time, that the very land SPEWS people out of it for this very offence. Therefore, in no way (to my thinking) should we ever find ourselves in a position of condoning or excusing this behavior, as a means to showing our ‘tolerance’ of other people. (Now ‘tolerance’ is a word that actually makes me cringe, whereas ‘Christian’ is nothing of the kind, except in application to myself.)

            There is great confusion about the differences between the Old and New Testament God. There should be no such confusion, as the two are One. Messiah came teaching the Law. Messiah didn’t ADD anything to the Law. His ‘new’ Commandment was in fact nothing of the kind. It was but the proper interpretation of the Law – which is to love thy neighbor as one loves oneself. The love we see exemplified in Messiah’s dealings with the people of this world, should NEVER be confused for tolerance. When Messiah did not condemn the adulteress, His words to her were: Go, and sin no more. His words were most decidedly NOT: Go in peace, and live a life mingled with rebellion against your Maker.

            Love is not tolerant, CrowPie. Love is actually most IN-tolerant. Love is patient. But because love is patient, we should not mistake that patience for acceptance of sin, or as willingness to abide by sin, of any kind, for any reason. As followers of Messiah, we are expected to be even as He is. This would have us making no excuse for this particular sin, nor again for the people who are most afflicted by it.

          • CrowPie


            I see your point. Sound arguments, all.

            Thankfully, I’m not gay. I only have to be forgiving of them and treat them fairly as the Savior commands.

          • MARK

            WALTER, as usual, the usual orbiting companions (like cowPlop) that I am supposed to believe are different people.
            YOU write to yourself, then answer yourself, dribble-writer!
            BOY, does your christo-CRAP writing SUCK!
            Here, christ0ids, let me sum up your situation.
            Your VILE all male run creed has ALWAYS used sexuality as the ULTIMATE christo-cover up for your MURDERESS killing sprees!
            BOY, cowPlop am I GLAD that I threw off the YOKE of the most despicable religion on earth, the FABLE of the white-skinned mangod!
            I do not worry, because soon, it will be AGAINST the LAW in the USA to practice your evil, vile creed in the open.
            YOU, WALTER, will be hunted, then prosecuted like a DRUG DEALER is now!
            WHOLE Police Agencies will do nothing else but get you deluded maniacs OFF THE STREET!
            And, with in 10 years, NO MORE little judeo-christo-CREEP-ism brain-washed victims (children) will be around to speard your vile, herpes like all male run white-skinned mangod FABLE!
            EVIL christ0ids of ameriiiSCUM are THE MOST succulent KILLERS ever to appear on the earth!
            End END of the 1,600 year old judeo-christo-Ponzi scheme is in sight WALTER!
            BYE BYE, jesus FABLE, forever!

          • Stickler

            Yes, the day that judeo-christoCREEPism disappears from the face of this earth, will be the BEST day in HUMAN HISTORY!
            And, beefy boy, the end is in sight all right! (We agree). The END of judeo-christo-CREEPism, that is!
            You know, in a very real way, your world hallucination of an all male god run criminal network who worships a white-skinned male psycho Tyrant of a god, IS disappearing off the face of this earth, very rapidly!
            And, you, WALTER, like a fish out of the water, is thrashing around, gasping for oxygen, where NONE is to be found anymore!
            And, WALTER, lets face the FACTS!
            You christ0ids in the jew-nited Fraudulent Fascist states of TORTURE and MILITARY TERROR, that YOU lay claim too, have just got your social values arse kicked by a bunch of gay guys!
            And, it IS fading away, WALTER!
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          • CrowPie

            Mark & Stickler,

            In regard to your comment and the thread subject.

            What many seem to forget is that no matter what piddly court decision is handed down, what law is changed, God will never bind two members of the opposite sex in Holy Matrimony.

            We as Christians sometimes forget that God knew the end before the foundation was laid. He knew this Law would be handed down and He is All Powerful.

            It is as it should be, or it would not be so. The question is….how do we as Christians behave in light of this change?

            Do we behave with hatred and spite? Or Grace and Love and forgiveness?

            It is possible to show a “No Vote” on a Bill (which we did…have, and still do….but were voted down anyway)…….and still be gracious.

            But rest assured ……No matter what you say or do…….Our God is in Control…….and He works in mysterious ways.

            Today I sign with my childhood nick name.


          • V. Religious

            HEY, cowPlopper,
            The ONLY place that your god has control of
            Is your sick, demented, obscene judeo-christo-CREEP mind!
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • Vein Arde

          Hey Bill. Jesus may have said, no, He DID say, Love one another. But I doubt He was saying put your penis in each others rears and suck one another penis tho. His meaning of the word LOVE means to have compassion for one another. To help one another.
          Christ may not have said anything due to the fact that it is so immoral He could not even have it in His Holy mind! But his disciples had things to say about it!

          Corinthians 6:9-11 says, “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners [malakoi: soft, delicate, effeminate], practicing homosexuals [arsenokoitai; meaning possibly shrine prostitutes], thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

          First Timothy 1:8-11 says, “But we know that the law is good if someone uses it legitimately, realizing that law is not intended for a righteous person, but for lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals [arsenokoitais; meaning possibly shrine prostitutes], kidnappers, liars, perjurers—in fact, for any who live contrary to sound teaching. This accords with the glorious gospel of the blessed God that was entrusted to me.”

          I doubt very much that the word, homosexual was even a word back then.
          The term ‘homosexuality’ was coined in the late 19th century by a German psychologist, Karoly Maria Benkert.

          But, do what you will and believe what you will. I am not the one who passes judgement on anyone! We all will stand in front of the judge one day and it will be HE who judges us all!

          • NWO for Dummies.

            The God of the old testament is the same as the God of the New testament but they had not yet the redeemer. homosexuality in the new testament is regarded by him the same as he did in the old testament. he does not , nor can he change.

          • Bill Lyle

            Vein Arde:
            I agree completely, that Jesus meant to have compassion for others. I also believe that he meant everybody; not just those who did as they’re told. However, there doesn’t seem to be much compassion, in this thread. I never implied that Jesus encouraged a gay lifestyle.
            Corinthians 6:9-11 Was not spoken by, nor was it attributed to Jesus. It was a letter from Paul. Try again.
            The books of Timothy, were once again, written by Paul. Again, the words of Christ were not quoted, in any way.

            I think it behooves us to remember, that authors like Paul were still strongly influenced by what we know as the Old Testament. If you’ll remember, the OT was much more “Hellfire and Brimstone”, than the NT. In my opinion, much of what is in the OT is antithetical to the teachings of Christ.

            As anyone here who knows me will attest, I’m not easily swayed by the ” but the bible says” argument. I’m convinced that biblical certainty it it’s own form of arrogance. With that being said, I’m also the first to concede that I may be wrong. If there is a final judgement, awaiting me, I will gladly accept my punishment, If I am wrong.

        • Bill Lyle

          An omniscient, all-powerful god, that’s incapable of changing his mind? You sure you don’t want to rethink that? Imposing limitations on a supreme being…. You sure you don’t want to try and eat the other foot?

        • HereAmI

          If you understood that the OT YHVH incarnated as the Lord Jesus, you would not have such opinions. He makes it perfectly clear what his assessment of the homosexual is.
          However, given that there is none righteous, no, not one, then we must also understand that this particular sin, repulsive and disgusting although it is, is no worse in its essence than any other sin.
          The wages of sin is death, and no differentiation is made between different varieties of sin.
          The present age chooses no longer to feel shame for its depravity; it is flaunted, and painted in all the colours of the rainbow.
          But this sin, as all others, will be judged.
          “For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.”
          Of this, we may be certain.

          • Anonymous

            well said.

        • Big dog.../small fish...

          The frenchie’s back in full force!!

      • NWO for Dummies.

        Bill lyle – you’d be sad if you weren’t such an a hole. Try reading a post before you comment on it. That way you may be able to escape being seen as the reprobate sinner you are. :sad: You lack the intelligence necessary to engage in debate. REPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Bill Lyle

          Repent for what? Being an Agnostic who believes Christ’s moral message? For being one who actually stands against hypocrisy? I’ll repent, once those things are considered immoral.

          You’re right about one thing, though. I am a reprobate- a sinner. I’m everything you can call me, and much worse. You say : ” the hatred of christians is never directed against the person who is inviolable, made in the image and likeness of God, but against the sin.” I think you’re lying. Thinly veiled attacks on the sin itself, is nothing more than a passive-aggressive attack on the person.

        • Bill Lyle

          As for my “lack of intelligence”, you’re the one resorting to ad-hominem attacks, not me.


      It is incumbent upon ALL MEN to overcome their beast nature in favor or the higher Spirit nature.

      Lust is merely another form of idolatry. It is the physical leading the inherently spiritual. It is an inversion into which all men are born. Laboring to overcome beast nature is the very purpose of life in this world.

      God doesn’t hate you. Neither should you hate Him. You should revere Him and do as he asks.

    • am123

      People are not born gay. Identical twins where one is gay and the other is not proves that. Also, the fact that there is no gay gene proves it.

      Being gay is a choice. But being straight is not a choice. People are born straight, as that is the normal, default condition. So for straights, that is just the way they are, there isn’t a choice that comes into play. For gays however, at some point in their lives, due to external things, they are enticed by spirits of perversion and they choose to engage in things that ought not to be done, unnatural things. But the Good News is they can be set free from these spirits of perversion by inviting Jesus into their hearts. Then the grace of Jesus will change them from the inside out—spirit, soul, and body. So they can pray the gay away. It is a spiritual problem that must be dealt with spiritually.

      • Bill Lyle

        Respectfully, am123, the twins argument is flawed. The Mengele experiments with twins proved that though twins may be identical in appearance, they are in fact, separate entities. It’s like saying one cannot be born schizophrenic, one twin shows no signs of the illness. I’ll concede the point that homosexuality may be psychological, in nature; but to say it’s a choice that can be prayed away, has been proven wrong by the various “Christian camps” which profess to be able to “cure” homosexuality.

        • CrowPie

          With all due respect am123, I have to agree with Bill. Please view the documentary ‘Prop 8′ in regard to the ‘pray away’ theory.

          The Mormans are the center of the doc, and their ‘efforts’ to put it nicely, to cure homosexuality. They used a method called ‘aversion therapy.’ Nasty stuff.

          I also have to agree with Bill on the twins argument. Identical DNA matters not when gene expression is independent and unpredictable.

        • NWO for Dummies.

          homosexuality is a depravity akin to pedophilia. Its a sin. No one said anything about praying sin away. you have to repent. you need to read and understand the context of 123′s prayed away remarks before jumping on the bandwagon like an idiot. :wink: God will forgive you your sins if you turn to Him by going down on your knees and asking him to show you your sins in the light of his Divine life. god will wait for you while you think about it. But come destruction all about you it may be you have left it too late.
          christian admonition to the homosexual is motivated by love

          • Bill Lyle

            Now you’re just being inflammatory. Comparing the relationship between two people who love each other to predatory animals, is a whole new level of stupidity. While it’s true, that many cases of paedophilia involve men preying on boys, it is rare for paedophiles to engage in homosexual activities with people their own age. Paedophilia is about control- not sex.

            Do you have any intelligent remarks, or are you going to stick with ad hominem attacks? If you insist on using the “it’s a sin” argument, how about something to back it up? You may even consider opening your bible, and finding where Jesus says so.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Sticking someone up the rectum is not love. Its a dangerous act. the anal canal lining is very thin and once pierced dire consequences will result.

          • am123

            God warned the Israelites about the practices of other nations around them—one of those practices being homosexuality. And I believe if one takes an honest look at the pure statistics of our society, the pure mathematical conclusion is homosexuals are more prone to pedophilia than the rest of society. If gays represent only 1% of the population, and if gays are no more inclined to engage in pedophilia than heterosexuals are, then it would follow that only 1% of child molesters would be gay. In other words, the next time a case of pedophilia comes up in the news, it would only be a 1 out of 100 chance it would involve a homosexual. However, reality belies this. If you took the next 100 cases of pedophilia to come up in the news (which is a random sample), will only 1 out of those 100 cases involve a homosexual molesting young boys? No, clearly it is much, much more than 1 out of a 100. Given that, if gays only represent 1% of the overall population but yet represent way more than 1% of the child molesters, then basic probability and statistics tells you that there is a vastly disproportionate amount of pedophiles in the gay population as compared to the overall population.

        • am123

          @Bill and CrowPie,

          Can we agree homosexuals are not “born that way”? Especially given the fact that a gay gene has not been found? Perhaps homosexuality can be explained with epigenetics, which would bolster the argument that it is caused by external forces. And if that is so, if it is caused by external forces, can it not be reversed somehow? I maintain it can, spiritually.

          If one accepts the faulty efforts of some “Christian camps” as proof that gays cannot be changed, then wouldn’t it follow that one must accept as proof that gays can be changed the evidence that many former gays have successfully come out of that lifestyle and attribute it to prayer and so forth? Such “proof” can be shown for both sides. So where does that leave us? I for one would rather rest my beliefs on what the Bible says. And chapter 1 of Romans tells us it is a choice, and 1 Corinthians 6:11 speaks of homosexuals who were changed.

          But anyways, I have a question for both of you if you do not agree that homosexuals are born that way, and that is, do you believe pedophiles are born that way? If your answer is no, they are not born that way, then cannot the same be said of gays?

          • CrowPie


            I am sorry. I just don’t believe anyone has any of those answers.

          • Bill Lyle

            Personally, I believe that one is born bi-sexual, much like a child is conceived, with no actual sex. The sex of a child develops in-utero, as does it’s genetic pre-dispositions. Humans are a blank slate, so to speak, until approximately 14 weeks, into a pregnancy. This is when the sex organs have completely differentiated themselves.
            I think there’s something to be said, for the “success” of the “Pray Away Day Camps”. However, I believe that those who have been “cured” are those who chose the lifestyle, on a conscious level. Be it out of sexual confusion, or whatever reason they chose to be gay; the fact that they could give up their homosexuality, leads me to believe that they were “posers”, for lack of a better word. They thought they were gay, but really weren’t. To me, it would be like trying to make a straight man go gay. It’s not going to work, unless he’s already considering the possibility.

            As a straight man, the straight lifestyle just makes sense to me. Conversely, the gay lifestyle makes sense to my best friend. He’s no paedophile, sadist, or predator. He’s just a good dude, whom I trust with my life. Who am I to judge him, based on who he loves? I’m but a lowly human, with all the flaws that come with it. I’d be a hypocrite, if I passed judgement on anyone, simply because they don’t live the way I do.

            Oh, by the way. I thought this may interest you, 123:

            As for your question, sir, I still find it erroneous, that paedophiles are linked to gay people. The only thing the two groups have in common, is a sexual preference that is outside the “norm”. Now, with that being said, Paedophiles are garbage. They are predators, preying on the most vulnerable of people, and they deserve to hang. Gay people (though there may be some exceptions) are no more threatening than straight people. As a matter of fact, when’s the last time you heard about a gay serial rapist? Plenty of straight ones, though.

            Asking if a paedophile is born that way, is like asking if a serial killer is born a serial killer. I also believe that to be a more apt comparison. Both are about control, not sex, and especially not about love, though many on both sides claim to “love” their victims. Their common bond is their psychopathy, and pathology.

            To get to the meat of your question (I kinda went on a tangent, there), I have to admit that I don’t know for sure, if gay people are “born gay”. I just know that it makes them happy. That can’t be a bad thing.

          • am123

            Thank you both for your answers. As to the link you provided Bill, while I don’t believe there is a gay gene, but hypothetically speaking, if one were to be found, it would be sure to open up a whole new can of worms for this issue. I remember someone making a point that if there was a gay gene then many in the gay camp would all of a sudden become pro-life because many would choose to abort such fetuses if they knew they would be gay.

            But anyways, the point in asking if you believe that pedophiles are not born that way but made that way, is I believe it is very similar to what happens with gays. I believe in both cases, they are born normal, but external forces channel their sexuality into an abnormal course. In my opinion, those external forces are evil spirits. One thing not mentioned in our discussion is the factor of how many gays report that they were molested as children. I believe that is clearly an avenue where such evil spirits find their place in gays.

            In closing, I would like to make something clear. While I may speak out strongly against homosexuality, my heart is for all of them to be saved. I wish for no one to end up in the lake of fire. Does a homosexual think he is doing wrong when he is engaging in homosexual activity? If a person does something he enjoys and doesn’t think he is doing anything wrong, will he repent of such activity? The road to hell is wide and it is easy and many will walk it. But if God declares a certain activity as wrong and says people who practice it will end up in the lake of fire, is it love to let that person continue on in that activity unabated? Is it love to tell them what they’re doing is fine and there are no repercussions to it if you know otherwise? That is not love. In the “he who is without sin cast the first stone” incident, Jesus told the woman that he forgave her and to go and sin no more. And that is exactly what Jesus would tell homosexuals today (and everyone else for that matter). He would tell them he forgives them of their sins and to go and sin no more. Love keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. And Love died for them on the cross a couple thousand years ago, to redeem them.

            This is not an easy subject for sure, so I will agree to disagree on these various points.

      • NWO for Dummies.

        Crowpie homosexual adoption is no remedy for a child needing a home. “out of the frying pan into the fire?” we can do better. I’d rather take my chances if i was a child with an ex con.

        • NWO for Dummies.

          allowing homosexuals to adopt children is just one more step in the degrading of society and this is following a well thought out plan. Its abominable.
          There is no shortage of good parents wanting to adopt children. This is exacerbated by the other deliberate abomination of abortion murder so that there are far fewer children available for adoption than previous times.

        • CrowPie

          Is that right? I should show you arouuuuund.

          Bet you’d change your mind real quick.

          • CrowPie

            I stitched an ex-cons face back on after a the Auburn football game….. his gay neighbor kept him alive till the bus picked him up.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Means nothing in the context of this debate but you already knew that

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Bet I’ve already been there. America would be no different in that respect of a shortage of children for adoption than any other affluent country which has legalized abortion….or is America third World because of its abominations, already. In that case I stand corrected.

          • CrowPie

            Well yeah….it kinda does. See you said you’d rather take your chances with an ex-con than with a homosexual.

            See…they were neighbors….and the ex-con thought it was cute to harass the effeminate gay guy day in and day out. So, ex con gets trashed on game day….and makes a beer run while intoxicated.

            He wants to get back be for the 3rd qtr. starts so he is drunk and speeding…..and drives his car right through his driveway….and into his gay neighbors trailor. Ex con went right through his windshield and into gay neighbors living room floor.

            So…even though he tormented gay guy for three years (as red necks in trailer parks do)….gay guy applied pressure to the gusher…….and dialed 911.

            BTW….EX -CON….had three kids in the house that night turned over to CPS. So…..It does apply to this conversation……PUTZ.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Crowpie, almost every post shows your conditioning. I’m sure those children would rather stay with their ex con dad than be turned over to homosexuals. Get my point yet?
            And keep your Jewish terms of endearment for your Jewish friends. I don’t speak Yid. :razz:

            partial answer are not normally the best basis on which to hurl insults. you would think you would know that

          • NWO for Dummies.

            NOTE: in my post at 8.34 I specifically wrote ‘ABORTION MURDER’….not simply ‘abortion’ yet it has been changed by BIN to ‘abortion’. Please read that into the post because we have been brainwashed into thinking it is not murder but it is the WORST most horrific level of murder that can ever be perpetrated and we congratulate ourselves on it. If you were a nurse chances are you would have been affected indirectly or directly which may explain your neurosis.

          • Bill Lyle

            Wow, Dummy. You speak for God, Jesus, and now, Children who have been placed in CPS care? Damn, you’re a busy guy.
            Every time you place hands to keys, you make yourself look more and more, like a conditioned bigot.
            You may want to stop, now.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Dear Bill. see my latest post above. It may apply to you. consider it a health warning.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            I certainly will continue to speak up for children kidnapped by your filthy degenerate state organizations. They can all go to hell.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            I certainly will continue to speak up for children kidnapped by your filthy, degenerate state organisations. they can all go to hell.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            I refreshed the page 5 times and the above comment did not appear. Then when I retype it it appears. Nice going BINheads.

          • CrowPie


            …I didn’t stop at my RN. I went on and became a P.A.

            But I find you presumptuous….and hostile. The gentlemen I have been speaking to above are longtime friends that I respect and like very much.

            On the other hand……I don’t know you.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            In any case it bears repeating. Thank you Lord.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            You are still attached to this world which is nothing but falsity and corruption. This is not the way of Christians. We must renounce the world and live only by the guiding light of the Holy Spirit.Thats my advice to you. You will see the world in a different light and praise God every day for it.

          • Bill Lyle

            And you call us conditioned. Good job…

          • Bill Lyle

            Go figure. Shot down at every turn, and your answer is to imply that I’m gay. Same old sad story.
            Geir, is that you?

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Crow and Dill….are you sure you’re not homosexuals? You sound very confused. As for the former Christianity is just a name you give yourself. I know a Christian when I hear one and you’re no Christian.

          • CrowPie


            “….are you sure you’re not homosexuals? You sound very confused. As for the former Christianity is just a name you give yourself. I know a Christian when I hear one and you’re no Christian.”

            Decorum and self respect prevents my saying the exact same thing to you.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            :lol: :lol:

        • HereAmI

          Bill believes that a child is conceived without a sex, and that this only becomes manifest at 14 weeks.
          A life begins when two cells, egg and sperm, fuse; one from the mother, one from the father. The father supplies either an X chromosome, or a Y chromosome. The mother, always an X chromosome.
          Thus from the instant of conception, the futire child is fully defined as either XX or XY; ie, either male or female.

          • mike

            I read somewhere that we all begin life with female development for an initial time … just curious.

  • Pink Slime

    The SOLUTION is simple, but you never tout this at ALL!

    If it is NOT Constitutional, moral or a just law we need not obey it all (gasp!). How come you never say this? NOBODY has any obligation in America when the above is applied to obey any of this. Simple no? And you can go about your business.

    The problem is people have decided to REJECT GOD as their moral authority and embrace secularism instead and decide whatever they do from now on is NOT SIN and it has not reached to high heaven (yet, just one step below), but the highest court in the land.

    Keep pushing America and you’ll fall right over the cliff.

  • Days_of_Noe

    John 15:20

    Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

  • The Truth

    There is no same sex marriage it doesn’t matter if 700 billion Supreme courts say so !
    Marriage is ordained by the creator our heavenly Father and that is the union between an man an woman!
    They can say what they will but they will never have an Holy Matrimonial marriage as an man and woman does.
    It is not the right of the supreme court to make a law around someones sexual preference !
    They are not an individual,a race or an entity.
    The homosexuals,gays queers,perverted people are only humans with sexual preferences.
    The sexual preference has no rights and surely not something that needs to be protected by law .
    The sexual preference is not an individual it is an desire and an luciferian desre that destroys the soul.
    Our fore fathers states that if something that is made law shows to be against the constitution then we must definitely not obey it and it is most right to pay it no mind!
    I say perverted because the norm in America is and always will be a man and an woman marrying in Holy matrimony.
    All the gays and homosexuals in America would not equal a million people.
    The supreme court has shown itself to be liable for an crime by going against the constitution which is and always will be written from our Heavenly Fathers commandments , and no matter what they say , they will never change the truth !
    “We the people” say it is an abomination because the Holy word of our Father says it is !
    The truly only thing they have accomplished is for themselves to serve as hosts to demons when they begin walking the earth.
    If you have ears listen and if you have an eye see.
    To The Father Be The Glory

  • Chet


    “I Live in Sodom…”


    • V. Religious

      Hey, Chet, isn’t that the place where the people walked around with their heads up their arses?
      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • HereAmI

    Those of us who stand upon the Rock of Ages should perhaps comfort ourselves by remembering that whilst homosexual relationships may now be legal within the US, they will never be lawful.

    • NWO for Dummies.

      Its all grist for the mill. And that mill is Americas destruction.

  • mike

    The basic problem here seems to be an ANTI-CHRISTIAN FORCE so that a Christian church must perform gay marriages or lose tax status … and an ordinary baker can not make a confederate flag cake for someone … another law forbids feeding the poor … etc. etc.

    • NWO for Dummies.

      the only problem there is that the homosexual degenerates are attacking the christian religion by wanting to be married in a christian church and are at the same time being very hypocritical as christianity forbids homosexuality. On both grounds thyey can and MUST still be barred from getting a christian abomination blessing which is really a CURSING in their case. what a madhouse society is.
      you really have to put it sown to electronic and chemical combined mind control – humans are not this stupid.

      • CrowPie

        What Church?

        If they insist on inviting a curse upon their own heads what’s it to you?

        Has nothing to do with YOU.

        The deal is done.

        For once…mind your own business…let the cards fall where they may.

        • NWO for Dummies.

          ….. crow….crow….crow….. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          • CrowPie

            I ask again…..what church?

            No real Church in the service of The Lord would do such a thing.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            What are you talking about? you lost me at “what church?”

          • CrowPie

            Well, then wade out into the deep end of the kiddie pool, and learn to follow the thread. Start at the top if you must.

            My very simple point is this… organization that claims to be a church….that would try to join two members of the same sex in HOLY Matrimony, is NOT a true church.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            I know that but that isn’t going to stop it happening? Most “christian” churches lost that distinction long ago. Including the Catholic church to which I am belong but cannot attend because of it.

          • CrowPie

            Well, I feel your pain. Many here stopped attending ‘regular’ churches long ago because of things we saw that were inconsistent with what we knew to be scriptural, or what we knew to be right in our hearts.

            Scripture tells us to be not of the world. I assume that means the Church, too. So why would we want our Church to be signed up with a Fed. Id. #? That is the epitome of “Of the world” if you ask me.

            They asked our opinion on this subject…we all said no….often. They decided to fight the matter in court.

            In my opinion….we are not part of this thing…..this is a government decision…..and if we are not part of the world, that excludes us…..if we are doing it right.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            Actually you do know me better than you think but I’m not giving it away. :wink:


            Иннокентий, plus 4 others which shall remain anonymous.

            OK I’ll give you one, xvleo.

            Look out for my next monica (I get bored). see if you can guess by my writing style. Hint: it will be in Japanese, {using Phoenician alphabet}

          • CrowPie

            Okie dokie

        • NWO for Dummies.

          ……in your case you may have the added burden of corexit to deal with. I see and hear all. but you can detoxify easily and quickly and effectively. ask me how and publicize it all over the gulf. Just crow, they’ll hear you.

          • CrowPie

            Nice dodge. So….you don’t actually care about this subject. Your only here to divide and be corrosive.

          • NWO for Dummies.

            what gave it away?….the detox? :???: :???: :lol:

  • am123

    The gay marriage ruling by the Supreme Court impacts all of our society in a negative way. When the ruling authorities in a society thumb their noses at the laws of the Most High God by sanctioning gay marriage, they are calling evil (homosexuality) good. And just like it is good to point out that murder is wrong or stealing is wrong for example, if anyone tries to point out that homosexuality is wrong, the promoters of perversion will label that person a bigot, and so good is called evil. And so because our society calls evil good and good evil, the anger of the LORD burns.

    The proportion that a society goes against the will of God, that is the same proportion that God withdraws His hedge of protection and blessing from that society. The more the nation as a whole turns its back on God, the more the presence of God withdraws. And the more the presence of God withdraws, the more room that gives to the Devil to come in and do his thing. Consider in the natural world how a heavy police presence in a city or town keeps criminal activity at bay. But reduce or remove or the police presence and the chaos of crime kicks in. Likewise, in the spiritual world, because America’s rulers have been and are turning their backs on God, then the more the presence of God recedes and evil comes in like a flood and the Devil and demons are given a freer rein on the spiritual turf of America. And since demons are attracted to evil human inclinations like flies are attracted to fresh dung, they gladly go and stoke the embers and fan the flames of human depravity, resulting in horrific tragedies. America is becoming a haunt for demonic activity.

    God gives us a choice between blessings or curses, depending on if we follow His ways or not. Unfortunately, our politicians and leaders have chosen the latter. And so America will reap what it has sown in the spiritual world. America is becoming a haunt for demonic activity because its leaders are blind and have essentially given a green light to the Devil and his thugs to come and do their things.

    We are a nation that is in need of God’s help more than ever before, but we do not have leaders who know how to entreat the favor of the LORD. They only know how to thumb their noses at God by sanctioning gay marriage, pushing God out of the public square, killing babies in the womb, and so forth.

    Woe unto those that call evil good and good evil. This gay marriage ruling by the Supreme Court only adds fuel to the fire of judgment that will rain down from on high. Destruction is coming, and it is fully deserved.

    • MARK

      am123, as usual, YOU write to yourself, then answer yourself, dribble-writer!
      BOY, does your christo-CRAP writing SUCK!
      :razz: :razz: :razz:
      Here, christ0ids, let me sum up your situation.
      Your VILE all male run creed has ALWAYS used sexuality as the ULTIMATE christo-cover up for your MURDERESS killing sprees!
      :mad: :mad: :mad:
      BOY, am123, am I GLAD that I threw off the YOKE of the most despicable religion on earth, the FABLE of the white-skinned mangod!

      I do not worry, because soon, it will be AGAINST the LAW in the USA to practice your evil, vile creed in the open.
      YOU, am123, will be hunted, then prosecuted like a DRUG DEALER is now!

      WHOLE Police Agencies will do nothing else but get you deluded maniacs OFF THE STREET!
      And, with in 10 years, NO MORE little judeo-christo-CREEP-ism brain-washed victims (children) will be around to spread your vile, herpes like all male run white-skinned mangod FABLE!
      EVIL christ0ids of ameriiiSCUM are THE MOST succulent KILLERS ever to appear on the earth!

      The END of the 1,600 year old judeo-christo-Ponzi scheme is in sight am123!

      BYE BYE, jesus FABLE, forever!

      • Stickler

        My god, am123!
        Can you believe that history will record that;
        the ruling and chief religious group of the USA for the first 319 years of it’s existence,
        was KNOCKED OUT of the Bully Pulpit of amerikan social values
        :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
        by a bunch of GAY GUYS?
        :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
        I mean, you just cannot make this stuff up, HISTORY!
        :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
        DemRepugnantcan Mike Huksterbee, the christo WAR MONSTER, will maybe, have a real heart attack over this supreme court ruling!
        He is morbidly obese, you know. :wink: :wink: :wink:
        Note, am123,

        The world holds two classes of men.
        Intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.
        YOU, am123, HAVE NO creditability, ,at ALL!
        So, WALTER, Warren, CrowPie, Egg FOOL Fung, Darko Scanner, BEEF SUPREME, Chet, The Real Deal, am123, Maygirl, The Clucker, WHAT EVER you are calling yourself today, you fundie NUTBALL, it does NOT matter to me, cause you are the SAME individual behind every one of these dark, evil, christo-characters of BIN!
        Go NOW, and visit FOREVER with your FABLE of a white-skinned mangod, you happy, gay, member of judeo-christohomoanity! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

        • CrowPie

          So strange…..there are so many more of us……and only ONE of YOU. :grin:

          • MARK

            LIAR, LAIR, your bra’s on fire!
            (except you are a christoMALE, jedjenthenjchristomaniac!)
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          • Chet

            I bet CrowPie isn’t the only person who’s bra is burning…. right Christopher the peanut smuggler? :)

          • Stickler

            Quote “If feed like a liver pate duck for 10 years”
            You’d never have to force feed Bacchus food, wine or those little Vienna wieners.
            Rumor has it that he can unhinge his weak jaw like a snake to swallow any quantity of above without breathing.

            Chet the christ0id insect,

            The world holds two classes of men.
            Intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.

          • Chet

            Hi Christopher.

            Have you dropped your own stupid religion yet?
            Why not?

            How’s that little jaw of yours doing?

          • CrowPie


            If your going to pretend to be Geir…you really should get back to work……he is quit dedicated, turning out at least 10 articles daily.

            I expect that all proceeds will, of course, continue to go to Geir and not in your coffers. Although I doubt you will be able to write anything that will draw the same crowds that Geir did.

            Better hope he gets back on board…..soon…..even though he is insane….he is the best you’ve got.

          • Stickler

            Yea, chet, answer the question!
            What are you sucking on, anyway?
            :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

          • Chet

            Chris quote: “Hey, chet, what is your avatar sucking on, anyway?”

            Coming from the fat old white american guy who seems to have a real hard-on for Obama…. that is classic.

            We all know you take advantage of your own contributors… Let them do the dirty work while you applaud behind your stained curtain.

            Did you ever figure out that YOU, my friend are the donkey that Geir Smith rides around and calls his girlfriend?

          • Mr. Chet Friend

            HEY, chet, take that big, black, long thing our of your mouth!
            I just cannot understand one bit of the christo-gibberish you are muttering with that big, black thing in your mouth!
            Are you one of the President’s Boys, chet?
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          • President O-BOMB-Ya, DemRepugnantcan Party of One

            Yes, Mr. Chet Friend.
            chet IS one of my boys!
            He runs errands for me and the like here at the BLACK house!
            :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • am123

        MARK said:

        “am123, as usual, YOU write to yourself, then answer yourself, dribble-writer!
        BOY, does your christo-CRAP writing SUCK!”

        Hmmmm….well….if I have missed the MARK with my writing MARK, then in order to improve my MARKmarksmanship and writing MARKability, should I learn from your repetitive and unimaginably boring to the uttermost writing of you and……ahemmmm…… your friends :wink: here in the 438 neighborhood of BIN?

        MARK my words: if you’ve read one of these posts by one of these residents (the only one) :wink: in the 438 neighborhood here on BIN you’ve read them all! :lol:


        • President O-BOMB-Ya, DemRepugnantcan Party of One

          Be very careful, am123, or I WILL throw your worthless christo-CREEP arse in one of my FEMA Camps for some schoolin in the NEW religion!
          Where, we WILL take the white-skinned mangod right out of your evil, perverted, sexist, Racist, all male run & organized ‘religion’ FOR GOOD!
          And, who set the Legal precedent for such forced conversions?
          Why judeo-christo-SCUMDUMBS (baptists) in the mid 1800’s with forced conversions to judeo-christo-SCUMDUMB OF Native REAL Americans!
          NOT judeo-christo-HOARDING THIEVES, am123!

          • Stickler

            YOU ARE RIGHT, Mr. President!
            These demented sexually perverted judeo-christo-CREEPS get more upset about where someone else sticks their tiny Caucasian weenie than the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people these LUNATICS and their forefathers have KILLED for their white-skinned mangod FABLE!
            OUTLAW judeo-christo-SCUMDUMB in the jew-nited Fraudulent Fascist states of TORTURE and MILITARY TERROR!
            Take away the maniacs’ guns, NOW!
            Then throw them ALL in the FEMA Camps for some schoolin in the NEW religion, where we will remove the white-skinned mangod from your RACIST, Sexist, HOARDING, thieving, KILLING religion, for good!
            And, who set the Legal precedent for such forced conversions?
            YOU judeo-christo-HOARDING THIEVES of ameriiiSCUM! THAT’S WHO!
            :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
            Why judeo-christo-SCUMDUMBS (baptists) in the mid 1800’s with forced conversions to judeo-christo-SCUMDUMB OF Native REAL Americans!

  • Pi of Neptune

    I’m not Sheep and I’m certainly not following the crowds, I’ve seen this Lifestyle upclose and personally it is an afront too Nature, but I feel Love is Love, but it certainly can be found in the wrong places, I’m a non-practicing sexual being whom about a year or so now has stepped away from acting upon my urges, it seems people today are so happy too enter their own hell dimension with a handbasket swinging about, I’m seeing a most-historic thing take place before my eyes, THE GREATEST DOWNFALL OF THE SUPERPOWERS THAT RULE THIS MODERN DAY WRECKAGE ( it’s just history repeating as the old saying goes, fools who do the same things over and over and yet expect a different result) I’m not sheep and I’m not following with this.

  • Pi of Neptune

    If there is anyone whom hasn’t studied the history of America, you are in for a serious awakening as too the coming times, there is one thing that we know for certain and that is that nothing is for certain, but change is constant and America as a country is so much more deserving of what’s coming for it than any other before or since, it is in the scope of what it so richly deserves, and what a GREAT time of REVELATIONS we are in, the predictions of doom and gloom are just that predictions, but the truest teachers are history and time, and time and time again we don’t learn from our mistakes, well I think we will, sooner than later, this Paradigmn Shift is in full swing and I think it will be like no other shift before (perhaps save ancient Atlantis and Lemuria if not also another home off this planet called Terra in Latin, no coincidence) but we shall see.

  • am123

    Deliverance from homosexual demon:

  • Anonymous

    You cannot, “hijack a republic”. By definition, a ‘republic’ is “government by the people”. This is the model of the old Roman Empire – the very FIRST republic. America was founded on the image of ROME, not God’s laws. Otherwise, the law would have been the Commandments of God, and not the will of an elected ‘congress’, which we call ‘lawmakers’. Law-making is for GOD ALONE, NOT MAN, and the very fact that America was founded on the idea of men voting on laws is anathema to God’s commanded laws. There is NO OTHER WORD besides the WORD OF GOD that has any relevance to law. Therefore America is the IMAGE OF THE BEAST OF ROME, or as prophesied by John the Prophet – in the Book of Revelations.

    So PLEASE do not associate the government of the United States with anything other than the ancient Roman Republic and it’s IMAGE. America is the prophesied IMAGE OF THE BEAST. With it’s nuclear weapons, a great evil, which WILL be used before the end.

    God is a God of mercy and love, not destruction or bombs, so this nation is NOT OF GOD, and never has been. The old nation of Israel was called out to be that great nation, but THEY FAILED. America is not the called nation, but is an abomination.

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