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    • desert owl

      Not just Mathew 24, but also Mark 13 plainly speak against any Rapture.
      As to your last paragraph, yes, there will be 3 “Resurrections”.
      1. The dead in Christ and living elect(sealed),
      2. His body at end of His 1000 year reign on earth and
      3. ALL others who come to believe Him at the end of 7000 years.

      • Truthseeker

        First Resurrection is to Eternal Life, to Spirit.
        Rev 20:6

        Second Resurrection is back to physical Flesh
        Rev 21:5, This is after the 1000 years, it is called the White Throne Judgment.
        It is also the 7th of God’s Feast days each year (Lev. 23) “The Last
        Great Day”. This is a time period of about 100 years, that those that
        never had their opportunity for salvation have 100 years to live and
        be judged. See Ezekiel 37.

        Third Resurrection is back to physical flesh, See John 5: 29, Rev 21:15 and Rev 20:6

        This is the very short version, an this comment section is hard to type with.

    • Pix

      It’s a reference to when Horus goes into the underworld,.. at the darkest hour you can see the distant celestial objects giving out their faint lights. Without the light of the sun polluting our local space environment. It’s like when you have no moon or you go to the countryside where there is no light pollution you can see more of the heavens.

      The sun can’t literally go out, but it does go through regular periods of lesser activity that is reflected on Earth as Ice ages. This is the first aspect of the trinity 3 gods in 1. Osiris gets chopped to pieces and loses his penis, ie becomes dead. Isis puts him back together, conceives Horus in an immaculate conception. Later on Horus resurrects his father Osiris in a parallel to the story of Lazarus. In fact the root of the name Lazarus has been traced back to Horus resurrecting Osiris.

    • Anonymous

      From these verses we’ll know right when Jesus is coming back at the end of the tribulation:

      (Dan 9:27 NIV) He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

      and

      (Rev 1:7 NIV) Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.

      But Jesus also comes as a thief when no one expects him. He takes people and leaves:

      (Mat 24:37-43 NIV) As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. {38} For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; {39} and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. {40} Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. {41} Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. {42} “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. {43} But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.

      The early church taught and believed in the pre-trib Rapture:

      (Mat 24:44-46 NIV) So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. {45} “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? {46} It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

      • Bonnie Wills

        I’m sorry, but you are looking at this completely backwards… Matthew 24 talks about the taking away of the sinners, not the removal of the saints — as in the day of Noah, when the wicked were taken away by the flood waters and the saints (Noah’s family) were left behind! As in the days of Lot, when the evil Sodomites were removed from the face of the earth, but righteous Lot was removed from the line of fire – protected – but not taken off planet.

        When He returns and gathers His saints from the four winds, He will then take us (the saints) to the place on earth where He has established His name. The entire Bible agrees with this: Deut. 30:1-5; Neh. 1:8-9; Isaiah 11; Jer. 23:1-3; 29:14; 31:1-40; 32:37-42; Ezek. 11:16-21; 20:33-38; 28:25-26 and the list goes on!! Do the research and awaken to the fact that the Bride must be purified through fire or she (we) will never be ready for His return.

        The Bible clearly tells us that He will gather His people back into the land that He swore to our fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob regardless of whether we are natural born or grafted-in (Romans 11) and with the exception of us meeting Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:17) the Bible says nothing about us going to heaven, even for just 7 years. Even the New Jerusalem is here on earth, not up in the heavens somewhere. The meek shall inherit the earth, not heaven!

        • Truthseeker

          Wills, I agree with your comment. It is in agreement with what the Bible teaches.

          To Anonymous, You say the early church taught a rapture, have you read John 11: 23, 24?

          Jesus said to her “Your brother will rise again”

          Martha did not say, “I know in the rapture” instead Martha stated:

          ” I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the LAST DAY” The last day is the time of the return of Christ. The Feast of Trumpets is the Feast day that fore shadows the return of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of the First Fruits, which are the “very elect’ also called Saints.

          You can not find one scripture that states: when we meet in Heaven, I will see you in heaven, the reward of the saved is heaven ect ect. sorry it does not exist.

          The rapture was created by false ministers to gain follower and money. It appealed to the vanity of those poor people that believed the lie.

    • Diane

      There is no rapture never has been…also in Matthew…Matthew 13:5-37
      You will be delivered up. The rapture is a lie. A dream taught as scripture…a doctrine of man…not of God.

    • RoGiC

      It was created to lull believers into a false sense of security thinking that we wouldn’t go through what we’re going through.

    • Gorja

      It’s just a story! Man grow up! If you were half as intelligent as you thought you was, you would’ve reached a part in you’re life when you realised how silly this all sounds. There are no records of Jesus. No historical roman records or references to a man named Jesus. There are however tons of roman records of that era of plenty of different people, none named Jesus that claimed to be the messiah but none that returned from the dead after being put on a cross or walked on water or fed 5 thousand etc… There would no doubt be records of a man that caused so much problems for the Romans. There’s not. Not one.

      • Truthseeker

        Anonymous, I challenge you to explain why some of the most amazing prophesies of the Bible
        have come to pass and recorded history verifies them.

        Read “JUDAH’S SCEPTER AND JOSEPH’S BIRTHRIGHT’” by J. H. Allen written in 1903 or 06
        Allen will take you through the scriptures that prove all of the promises God made to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David. I believe you can read it on line.

        You will then understand why America will soon be attacked and 2/3 will die and 1/3 taken into captivity Sounds absolutely crazy — right. Read Ezekiel chapters 5 and 6.

        One reason the Bible seems not real and does not connect with reality , is that so many have not one clue about the Bible. 99.75% of all of the sects, kinds, flavors ect of Christianity are not! Why is there 4000 or more kinds of Christianity? Because they are confused. Remember the 4 blind men explaining what an elephant looks like? They could not see the whole. The “whole” has been hidden for thousands of years and is now being unlocked.

        • sentforth5

          “JUDAH’S SCEPTER AND JOSEPH’S BIRTHRIGHT’”
          A must-read for every serious student. Just a terrific book that I wish every Christian had in their library!

    • Gorja

      It’s obvious that America will eventually be attacked. They are getting too full of they’re selves and starting wars everywhere for profit. Nostradamus predicted a lot of things but none of them were bang on. I predict china and russia will attack america but that dont make me a profit if it happens. Only one thing is certain in life and that is we all die. That’s the only thing that is definetly going to happen.
      I challenge you truth seeker to explain why there are absolutely no roman or any historical records of a man named Jesus Christ. Someone who supposedly caused so much problems for the Romans. There are records of everyone but a man named Jesus Christ. Son of god. Who died and came back. Whom performed so many miracles. Whom they put on a cross. None? Why not? What does that tell you?

    • Gorja

      It’s obvious that America will eventually be attacked. They are getting too full of they’re selves and starting wars everywhere for profit. Nostradamus predicted a lot of things but none of them were bang on. I predict china and russia will attack america but that dont make me a profit if it happens. Only one thing is certain in life and that is we all die. That’s the only thing that is definetly going to happen.
      I challenge you truth seeker to explain why there are absolutely no roman or any historical records of a man named Jesus Christ. Someone who supposedly caused so much problems for the Romans. There are records of everyone but a man named Jesus Christ. Son of god. Who died and came back. Whom performed so many miracles. Whom they put on a cross. None? Why not? What does that tell you? Speaks margins to me! It’s all drummed into our heads when we are young. It’s all believable then. Because we are gullible. But then you grow up. Start realising how gullible you was. Well I did. Don’t get me wrong, we were more than likely created. DNA says that. It’s a blueprint, it was made. But the story of the bible is just that. A story. Originally about the sequence of the stars. Changed into characters. Read religiously. For it was a very well written book.

      • Truthseeker

        Anonymous,

        first;

        God the Father and Christ purposely left no absolute physical proof. God is a Spirit and must be worshiped in Spirit. We do have the logic of Creation. I just read an article by two doctors that found through their studies, human life had to be instantaneous created. Their basis; if every hormone level, every blood chemical level ect, if not perfect from day one, the human could not survive. How does balanced levels the body requires – just happen over time???

        Second:

        Spiritual proofs
        God still heals, sometimes instantaneously, I can not list the many time my family and I were healed either right then or within days. We followed the instructions of the Apostles.

        Third;

        In no way or manner can human intellect understand the Bible, it is closed to the human mind. You can read it all you want — its just a book of confusion to you.

        In Luke 24: 44 ,45 it says “Then opened He their understanding that they might understand the scriptures”. Only if and when God the Father wants YOU to understand will He gradually give you understanding over time. I have been studying for over 30 years.

        Russia and China will never attack America, we will be attacked by the Beast Power, first by biological warfare, then with hired armies. We will lose 2/3, 200 million.

        Fourth;

        As I stated earlier, the fulfilled prophecy that all bible scholars recognize

        There is much more.

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