The Rapture & Then, "All Hell On Earth"
Pastor Joseph Chambers * Paw Creek Ministries
THIS IS A BIBLE STUDY TO COMFORT THOSE TROUBLED BY THE PRESENT WORLD EVENTS AND THE DARKNESS OF THE POLITICAL EVILS. SOMETIMES IT LOOKS LIKE THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS ALREADY HERE. THE HOLY BIBLE IS PERFECT, “THE RAPTURE WILL, WITHOUT QUESTION, OCCUR BEFORE THOSE SEVEN HORRIBLE YEARS.” If you do not believe in the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE there is no comfort I have from the Bible to give you. “If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.” (1Cor. 15:19) Our COMFORT is in His eternal presence.
Things you will learn in this study:
1. The Book of Genesis is absolute and literal.
2. The Ark and the flood was a model picture of the Pre-tribulation Rapture.
3. The judgment of Sodom and Gomarrah was also a type of the Rapture.
4. The daily tribulation we presently endure and the Great Tribulation are totally different.
5. God’s saints are loved and never made to suffer wrath with the wicked.
6. Jesus came to save and deliver His Church from the final wrath and judgment.
7. How could Jesus take His saints for His Bride after His wrath has bashed the life out of them.
8. The Rapture of the saints before the “HELL ON EARTH” is bedrock truth.
There is no truth more fixed and dependable than God’s faithfulness. His saints, redeemed by the Blood of His Son, Jesus Christ, are His delight. We are not just His servants; we are His friends and the future Bride of his Son. We are plainly instructed by the Apostle Paul that we are joint heirs with Jesus Christ. “For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” (Romans 8:15-17) “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” (Luke 12:32)
Understanding His faithfulness and knowing that we are “heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ are foundational truths for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. The wrath of God has never been directed against His chosen that find grace in His presence. Not one Scripture in the Word of God places the righteous and the unholy together under a display of the Father’s wrath. From the worship of Cain and Abel in Genesis chapter 4, God always makes a distinction between obedience and disobedience. God accepted Abel’s worship and rejected Cain’s bloodless sacrifice and the manifestation of God’s Spirit in accepting Abel’s worship left no doubt. Holy Justice can never condemn the righteous for the deeds of the wicked. This is a principle that underlies every revelation of the Holy Bible.
The Differences Between Tribulation and Wrath! … “In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33) It is probably unfortunate that we use the same word tribulation for the normal experiences of every Biblical saint with the period the Scripture calls the “Great Tribulation.” There is a total difference between the “much tribulation” that Luke wrote about in Acts and the “Great Tribulation” that Jesus spoke about as recorded in Matthew. Luke stated, “Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” (Acts 14:22) Matthew recorded Jesus’ words as following, “And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” (Matthew 24:19-22) The difference is extremely clear.
The word tribulation embodies the idea of pressure and trouble. There are clearly many different levels of this pressure or trouble throughout the Scriptures. Jesus Christ experienced incredible pressure and sorrows in His crisis of death. The tribulation of His sorrows in behalf of our redemption is the basis of why He said, …“In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome” (already defeated) those tribulations. The tribulation that the Son of God experienced for us, but that we still face by faith in Him is not the wrath of God but the wrath of the world. This pressure that Satan and the world under his control brings to bear has no kinship to the pressure of God’s wrath directed toward the wicked and Satan’s crowd.
When you simply translate the word tribulation by its distinctive meaning of pressure and trouble, it clears up the confusion that many people have assigned to this subject. As Luke wrote in Acts, we enter into the Kingdom of God by much pressure and trouble. The world is not a friend to the saints of God. “We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.” (II Corinthians 4:8-11) These tribulations or pressures that we bear make mature saints out of us as we trust in Him and die to our own selves.
The “Great Tribulation” is a distinctive time of pressure and trouble directed towards a population that is infested with sin: that has rejected the revelations of Jesus Christ. It is also planned as tribulation or pressure against the hordes of hell or Satan and his fallen angels. While our tribulation or pressure produces redemption of the saints, this future tribulation or pressure produces the redemption of the earth and God’s cosmos. This makes it clear why the same word is used. In both cases, it is redemption that is produced by the pressure of tribulation.
God Never Inflicts His Wrath on His Saints! It is Biblically unthinkable that our God would ever allow His chosen saints to be left in the middle of His judgment of the wicked. He has never done so, nor will He ever do such an unprincipled thing. It is contrary to His nature and to His faithfulness. To leave the saints of God on this earth, while He poured out His redeeming wrath on the Christ-rejecting crowd would strike at the heart of His holiness. It will not happen because it cannot happen. Anything that is contrary to His nature must never be assigned to His actions.
The Days of Noah! The Book of Genesis is an infallible part of the Holy Bible. Every word of this Book is exact and perfectly true. It was Jesus Christ Himself that compared the days of Noah with the coming of the Son of Man. “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.” (Matthew 24:36-42) Reasonable scholars that do not have strange theology to defend believe that this is the exact language concerning the Rapture before the Tribulation.
The story concerning Noah is breathtaking. The Father was repenting that He had created man. “And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.” (Genesis 6:6) He then determined that He would destroy man and beast from the face of this earth and then He stated again, “… for it repenteth me that I have made them.” (Genesis 6:7) Then our faithful God looked in the direction of a godly man named Noah and stated, “But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.” (Genesis 6:8) What a picture of the nature of God’s holiness. He was ready to destroy His own creation, but then one man was not guilty of the filth of the rest and God devised a plan to save that one man and his family from the planned holocaust. This principle sets the tone for the entire Word of God and God’s acts of judgment. He must judge sin, but He will do it by the principles of His own nature.
Noah had to act in obedience to receive the promise of deliverance from the impending wrath. He was instructed to build an ark to the saving of His household and was given the plans for the same. This is the same principle that has never changed. Our salvation is free, but Jesus made it plain that our deliverance from impending wrath is a matter of our faithfulness. Jesus said, “But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.” (Matthew 24:43-44) He forever makes a difference between the righteous and the unrighteous.
When Noah had finished the ark, God Himself came to see the project. While He was on the inside, He called to Noah, “And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.” (Genesis 7:1) When Noah and his family, plus all the creatures of the earth had finished entering the ark, the Scripture states, “… and the LORD shut him in.” (Genesis 7:16b) It’s beautiful to see the Lord call him from the inside, but shut the door from the outside. God cannot be limited to an ark made by man, but He certainly was responsible for the security of Noah’s family by securing the door Himself. This story is a breathtaking truth. It is a perfect picture of God’s faithfulness in the judgment of the wicked. The protection of the righteous is a personal thing with our Heavenly Father. He did not assign this project to even His most trusted angel.
The Days of Lot! Lot and his removal from Sodom and Gomorrah before its destruction is another prime picture of God’s nature in judgment. He will always and in every case judge sin, but He will never judge the righteous at the same moment or in the same manner. It is impossible for sin to ever go unpunished, but it is just as impossible for sin and righteousness to be treated the same. Sodom and Gomorrah’s population had filled the cup of sin to its max. But, our God determined that He by His nature would do right and the righteous had to be delivered. Listen to the words of Abraham when he was speaking to the Lord, “That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?” (Genesis 18:25)
The Heavenly Father sent His angels right into the throbs of filth to assure the removal of Lot and those in his family that feared God. Our God even said that if He found as few as ten righteous persons in Sodom and Gomorrah, He would not destroy the city. “… And he (God) said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.” (Genesis 18:32b) Settle it in your mind that this is God’s nature and not just a story of how He acted in one circumstance. He is the Lord and He doesn’t change. Lot had family that had become compromised by the evil of their surroundings. They had no fear of God and laughed Lot to scorn. “And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.” (Genesis 19:14) We live in a similar generation where the families of many believers are careless and unconcerned. It is evident that Lot had allowed himself to give up the more separated life of a Bedouin for the comforts of Sodom and Gomorrah. The New Testament writer said that Lot’s righteous soul was “vexed by the unlawful deeds” of these sodomites. “And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)” (II Peter 2:6-8)
I believe he lost those family members because he chose worldly comforts over living a separated life with them in a pure environment. How many believers, themselves living holy lives, have taken their families into social settings and compromising churches only to watch their children lose the fear of God. It is sad to consider this Godly man having to leave these cities knowing that part of his family was “left behind.” In fact, Lot was so hesitant to leave that the angels had to remove him. “And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city. And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.” (Genesis 19:14-16)
The angels had to take Lot and his wife and two of his daughters by the hands and take them out of the city. This generation seems about as reluctant to escape this filthy world as Lot and his family were. Finally, the angel said, “Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.” (Genesis 19:22) Do not forget those words, “…for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither.” This is the faithfulness of God. They were not saved by their goodness, but by His “grace.” It is easy to understand why Lot’s wife looked back and lost her deliverance. She was leaving daughters, son-in-laws, and probably grandchildren to be consumed in the flames of fire and brimstone. She could not refrain herself from looking back when her own flesh and blood was about to suffer hell on earth. “But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.” (Genesis 19:26) Is it possible that this scenario will be repeated when the Son of Man comes for His saints? Will there be saintly people so besieged with passions for their unsaved loved ones that they miss the Rapture? I would not suggest so, but the thought strikes terror to my heart. Remember the Scripture, “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Hebrews 9:28) Regardless of what is left behind, His saints must look for Him without hesitation.
He Reserves Wrath For His Enemies! This prophetic truth spoken by a prophet named Nahum is breathtaking, “God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.” (Nahum 1:2) What a statement of absolute perfection concerning the nature of God in His judgments. The wrath of God cannot be mixed but is always divinely discerned in the object of its activities. God is a jealous God. He will not allow sin to go unpunished. Never! But, He reserves His wrath for His enemies. As our Heavenly Father, He will chasten us, lay His rod of correction upon us and deal correctingly, but lovingly with us. He may even direct His righteous anger at us because of disobedience, but His wrath is reserved for the wicked that refuse to obey His will. He created this universe for His glory and honor and He is jealous over it with an unfailing love. It will be subject unto Him shortly and all that opposes Him will be consumed by His wrath.
This principle lives even more beautifully in the New Covenant. Jesus filled His message with the promises that He came not to condemn but to save. Jesus said, “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” (John 3:17-21)
His great message of deliverance forever tempers the rigid positions of His commandments. The laws of God bring conviction of sin, but the grace of God cleanses and delivers us from the powers of sin. He is the door by which we escape the coming wrath; therefore, we are no longer under the “fear of judgment.” The coming “seven years of wrath” is not a “New Covenant” message. It is an “Old Covenant” message. Jesus reiterated this fact when He prophesied of its future fulfillment. The wrath of God and the wrath of the Lamb are seen in their coming horror in Revelation chapter six. This earth cannot be a “Garden of Eden” until righteousness is established in judgment. Sin was finished on the cross, but the finality of this finish has to be manifest by an outpouring of wrath on those that refuse the pardon from sin’s prison. Sin is finished in those that are redeemed by His blood, but the enemies of God are yet to be dealt with.
Now, we see why the “wrath of God” must be poured forth, but it is unthinkable and impossible for those redeemed by His blood to be subject to this wrath. He has Himself borne our wrath on His cross at Calvary. If we were subject to that wrath, then Calvary would have been in vain. We must look at this wrath and note those that cry out because of its terror. “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?” (Revelation 6:15-17)The saints are already around the throne as this defining moment begins.
Paul’s epistle confirms this truth, “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.” (II Thessalonians 5:9-11) This Scripture, when viewed in light of the above facts, almost comes off the pages of Holy Writ. The Jewish believers were students of the laws and prophets of God. They trembled under the weight of the coming judgments for sin. Their history is filled with examples of God’s wrath. The story of the Assyrians and Babylonians, who acted as God’s instruments of judgment, were all too familiar. It was “Good News” to hear that Jesus Christ had taken their wrath on the cross and that they no longer had to flee.
As a whole, the Nation of Israel refused this message and rejected the Son of God and they have lived under wrath since that day with more to come. As wounded as my heart feels for the Nation of Israel today, even as I pray for the peace of Jerusalem, that peace cannot be complete until Messiah comes and they are redeemed. We resist the truth of God’s Word when we expect them to have complete peace until they repent for helping crucify the Son of God. Thank God we are at the door of that prophetic moment. Israel, will soon be under the ultimate wrath of the Lamb and will be redeemed when they see Him coming in glory at the conclusion of the Battle of Armageddon. Our present joy is to “wait for the Son from Heaven.” The apostles’ messages were constantly filled with this assurance. They knew that God’s wrath was a future fact, but they had no dread. “And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.” (I Thessalonians 1:10)
Apostle Peter spoke with enthusiasm of the same assurance. Look carefully at the hope of His words. “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.” (II Peter 3:10-14)
Conclusion! On and on you can search the pages of the New Covenant to find much assurance that we, as His saints, are not “appointed unto wrath.” We have been delivered from that wrath because he took our wrath for us. “Isaiah the prophet said, “It pleased the Lord to bruise Him” that we might be set free. This does not give us liberty to be lovers of this world and to live carelessly. Rather, it calls us unto holiness and soberness of mind. John the Revelator summed it up to the Church of Philadelphia. He stated by the Holy Ghost as given to Jesus by the Father, “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” (Revelation 3:10) For the saints of God, who are watching the incredible events of prophetic fulfillment, the atmosphere is filled with the Blessed Hope.
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8 Responses to “THE RAPTURE AND THEN,”ALL HELL ON EARTH”
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din says:
I guess those 3+ women who endured horrific toruture, gang raping for 10 years in the basement of those 3 vile men.in Pa..are part of “that which we must endure” whilst hear on earth..
I kind of wonder, what possible message there is in this regarding the youngest one who was kidnapped at age 14.
I’m just askin.
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Ed Wood says:
One of the things I find that challenge my faith the most is to watch bad things happen to good people. When I see little kids get cancer or get killed by evil people like Adam Lanza, this is tough to take. It becomes easy to blame God. Or at the very least, wonder why he didn’t stop it.
It’s taken me a long time to try to make sense of it, and, to be honest, with you, I still haven’t resolved it completely. So, let me share my thoughts and perhaps others will have other ideas.
God does NOT harm his own, just as Pastor Joseph said. But because God gave us free will, he often does not prevent people from doing evil things against each other. I think this is the price of free will. What’s forgotten is that Adam and Eve freely invited the author of all evil into our universe and this gave Satan the legal authority to have access to our world. But the devil can only go as far as God allows him – and this only temporarily because his number well soon be up.
I think it’s important to remember that God himself allowed evil to overtake his only begotten Son and subject him to the worst possible death that one can imagine. And Jesus, who could have called the angels to his rescue, nevertheless allowed himself to go through it all for our sakes. So, if bad things could happen to the sinless Jesus, the rest of us are fair game. But God turned what the devil must have thought was his greatest victory into his worst defeat when Jesus rose to life again and brought eternal salvation to all those who believe in him.
What we do know for sure is that in the end God wins, his people will be vindicated, Satan and his minions both human and demons will receive the reward in the Lake of Fire they so richly deserve. Every evil deed done by them will condemn them to eternal torment.
I, too, as does Pastor Joseph, believe we will not have long to wait.
Comes soon, Lord Jesus!!!
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Bill Scudder says:
I have comfort in Christ no matter if the rapture is pre-trip, mid-trib,or post trib. 2nd Thess. says that the anti-Christ will be revealed before Christ returns. So, the rapture could still happen before the Great tribultion even though the man of sin has been reaveald.
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Sheree D. Price says:
What a dynamite Bible Study. All in a nutshell! Again
Thank you Pastor Chambers for bringing us God’s Truth
just as pure and plain and simple that even a child can
read it and understand. The thing that so disturbs me about
it all, that just literally breaks my heart, is when I think about
my loved ones, people I know and work with, those claiming
to be saved, yet walking not with Jesus, but caught up in worldliness
and living so casually. Most I fear, are not truly saved, but believe
they are. I know that’s not my call to make, but don’t we know
them by their fruits?
Pastor, I love the verse you quoted in Genesis 18:25…shall not the Judge
of all the earth do right?” I know He will. I also know that sometimes
when my heart is heavy thinking about some not making the Rapture, I
think about what Gods Word says, He’s gonna wipe every tear from our eyes.
What a sobering thought! Someone you love so dearly, not being there in
heaven with you. But, we won’t even know it…
Pastor Chambers, could you maybe speak on this, what are your thoughts?
Thank you so much, love, In Christ, Sheree -
Brother James says:
Brother Chambers what a wonderful article!!! So encouraging in these days we live.I wish you could post it on any of the forums where you have posted in the past, so many people need to see this!!! GOD bless you and thank you!!!
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Keith Black says:
LAST DAYS AND EVACUATION OF SAINTS, AND JUDGMENT ON WICKED
Dear Joe Chambers,
We are indeed in a RE-PLAY OF THE DAYS OF NOAH AND THE DAYS OF LOT. We will soon have to evacuate. Things were really wild inthe DAYS OF NOAH. Evil humans are more dangerous than lions. We are also in the DAYS OF LOT WHEN THE LORD HAD TO BOMB SODOM. Sodom was the first HIROSHIMA. It was even more wiped out thant the 2 nuked Japanese cities. Was it a more POWERFUL EXPLOSION, perhaps even stronger than the biggest H-Bombs. Did Abraham see a mushroom cloud to east? Was it an asteroid? The Dead Sea was a fresh-water lake before the bombing. The area was like Eden. It is now a desert. That is the result of the large bombing of Sodom and surrounding areas. Sodom was dominated by the GAYS. HOMOSEXUALS are the main reason Sodom was bombed. If the US SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN STATE LAWS THA BAN GAY MARRIAGES, GOD WILL HAVE TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY. If the Supreme Court strikes down Federal laws against homosexuals but leaves in place state laws that ban homosexual marriages: It could have a JUDEA AND SAMARIA EFFECT ON AMERICA. Back at the time after Solomon died ISRAEL WAS DIVIDED INTO 2 NATIONS. NORTHER ISRAEL CALLED SAMARIA, AND SOUTHERN ISRAEL CALLED JUDAH. All the SAINTS IN THE NORTH WERE FORCED TO FLEE FROM THE LIBERAL DOMINATED NORTH TO THE CONSERVATIVE SOUTHERN ISRAEL. It would have the same effect on America. The Liberal north is our SAMARIA. The conservative South and Mountain states is our JUDEA. All CONSERVATIVE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS SHOULD MOVE AWAY FROM LIBERAL STATES SUCH AS CALIFORNIA, AND TO CONSERVATIVE SOUTHERN STATES TO PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN FROM CORRUPTED HOMOSEXUAL DOMINATED PUBLIC SCHOOLS. Christians move your families away from “SAMARIA” to “JUDEA” TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN. In 2-Peter 3:10-14 The time that the entire Earth and Heaven will be burned up with fervent heat and the ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT wil not be in the Tribulation, but will be AFTER THE MILLENNIUM, when the Gog & Magog Enemies try to take Jerusalem after Satan is released. If you want to know why God will not destroy the entire earth by fire in Tribulation, is because he will have some people such as Israel and the Gentile Tribulation Saints that he has to protect. He needs these peoples physical flesh and blood bodies to repopulate the earth during the Millennium. Yes there will be some fire during Tribulations and ELEMENTS MELTING WITH FERVENT HEAT (NUCLEAR WEAPONS) on a limited scale. So there will be some, but it will not be total. At the end of the Millennium there will be no more childbirths. So when Satan is released, All the saints from all over to the Earth flee to JERUSALEM to escape the comming FIERY JUDGMENT that will hit the unsaved. SATAN INVOLVED IN THE POLITICS OF ENVY GETS THE MOBS OF THE EARTH TO TRY TO TAKE JERUSALEM WHERE THE SAINTS FLED TO. IT THEN THAT JERUSALEM IS LIFTED OFF THE EARTH. AND FIRE BURNS UP THE WICKED. THAT IS WHEN THE ELEMENTS MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT. THE WHOLE EARTH EXPLODES IN A NUCLEAR STYLE BLAST. The GLOBAL WARMING that Liberals have been looking for finally comes.
What do you think, Joe?
Sincerely,
Keith Black
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This is all warm and fuzzy and completely opposite of what Jesus taught. Jesus said we would be given up even by own family members and that some of us will be put to death. Jesus prayed specifically “That the Father does NOT take us out iof this World but keep us from the Evil to come.” He instructs us in Revelation to pray for……….what? To be part of the First Ressurection that happens at His appearing. He says over and over in Matthew that his appearing will be ON THE LAST DAY and at the Last Trump. Satan has a plan. He has a great deception coming and it is FOR CHRISTIANS. We will be here and if you people don’t start reading your Bibles instead of listening to False Teachings from the pit of Hell – you may just be one who is deceived.
“The Righteous WILL NEVER be removed;” Proverbs 10:30
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that EVERY ONE which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.” John 6:40
If you doubt the Word of God you might as well give your Bible to someone who will use it.
Correct, the righteous will not be removed. It is the evil people who are removed from earth and cast into Hell.
As to the false apostle Pharisee Paul, he says in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 that God will cause all to believe a lie during the time of God’s judgment. HE IS A LIAR! An evil liar.
Revelation Ch. 11, the two witnesses who prophecy TRUTH just before the Beast, a demonic entity who is on earth in spirit form and arises in physical form from the bottomless pit during God’s judgment.
Rev. 14:6 An angel who warns fear God and give glory to him.
Rev. 14:9 Another angel who warns if any man worships the Beast, his image or receives his mark will end up in Hell
Rev. 18:4 COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE, that is the churches, the mother whore being the Roman Catholic church. No church is of God, they were founded on the doctrine of the false apostle Pharisee Paul.
So there again, lying writings in the BIBLE, as not every writing is of God. As to the New Testament section, only the 1 writing of Matthew and 5 writings of John are of Jews of the Lord. The rest of the NT section are writings of the Jews of Satan.
” It is the evil people who are removed from earth and cast into Hell.”
OH good, and that will leave no members of organized mafia religions left, except for the children who’s indoctrination is still reversable. Can’t wait.
Who said only evil adults? Christ knows the heart.
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This article is typical psy ops, zionists keeping christians duped into believing it’s all in stone. The ‘bible’ has been rewritten many times by the zionists, which ‘moneychangers’ Jesus chased out at the end of a whip, so they killed him.
Get it straight, the zionists are behind ALL of the fake wars for hundreds of years, they own the fed reserve, the media, they did 911, all the false flags, they run the porn industry to kill culture and distract, big pharma poison, all of it. They now, thanks to stupid people who believed the fake wars, own all the military tech, and HAARP which causes quakes/storms – Katrina Haiti Fukushima Sandy.
There will be no bogus ‘rapture’ it will be assaults by the zionists and their lying whoor politicians who ALL voted for the NDAA and are allowing you to be sprayed with chemtrails. Don’t fall for this bs, zionists call christians/gentiles ‘goyim’ – meaning stupid cattle. Get informed and don’t swallow this bs diversions -
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_stf.htm
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=811
http://www.whtt.org/newwhtt/main.php?nid=2724
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These whom you call “zionists” are nothing more than agents of Satan. You strive against them through fleshly means, but you are powerless against their magic, which you are ignorant of. They have no power against a child of God who knows who he is in Christ Jesus. In the end, they lose and we win:
“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
—Revelation 3:9
@am123 According to Judaism, anyone who converts to Judaism is considered Jewish.
There are no fake Jews.
The difference between “Jew” and “Gentile” (goyim) is “Day” and “Night”, “Righteous” and “Wicked”, “Natural” and “Unnatural”, “Truth” and “Error”, etc etc. The zionists(Who are responsible for the existence of modern Christianity by the way, PAUL was one) are “who call themselves Jews but are not.”(righteous, though they are wicked even though they have Hebrew blood, They aren’t chosen of the Father)
Revelation 2:9 is speaking of GENTILES who claim to be Jews. The only ones who can claim to be Jews and are not is Gentiles.
A Jew is a Jew regardless of whether of Satan or of the Lord. NO GENTILE held the seat of Moses in the Temple of the Lord. Christ said Pharisees are of Satan (John 8:44). And Pharisees and scribes sat in the seat of Moses (Matthew 23:2).
Romans 2:28-29 is the blasphemous teaching that Gentiles are the true Jews.
Every church is a synagogue of Satan.
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dude, you’re racist aren’t you? You remind me of cult worshipers like westboro baptist or this guy:
http://www.boltedmedia.com/brazilian-pastor-valdeci-sobrino-picanto-arrested-for-convincing-followers-his-penis-contained-holy-milk/
Wow, I see since I’ve been off the thread all the dirtbag zionists have rushed in trying to say ‘don’t look don’t look at those links !’ lol. Sorry zionist scumbags, people are waking up to the zionist scam kiling the US and they’re waking up fast.
no ‘exposing the truth’ (lies) you aren’t. you’re fake accepted, as with freemasons who are the co-liars of zionists, all of you too stupid to look up and see that you too are being sprayed with chemtrails poisons.
‘almost over’, is that the best you’ve got, zio shill? lol. Lame. My links are factual, and you want to yap about the westboro freaks. lol, typical lame shilling.
‘am 123′ LOL. So YOUR game is to admit the zionists are behind it all, then make others feel helpless. What a scumbag you are. You can try selling that sheet to others, don’t run that game on me, PUNK.
We DO have power, people are waking up, that IS power. How much power will they have when we all stop buying their crap, their food, using their banks etc etc etc.
But you don’t want that do you. You want people to feel all helpless, and you say that god will love them anyway, conveniently leaving out that the bibles, especially the new testament were re/written by scum jews.
And that, is what power looks like. Now, anyone who uses a jesus face for a post is a dead giveaway as an ops. Stop already, before I have to trash you again.
Real readers, have faith in yourself and what god gave you, and TELL others the FACTS that you know, so we can all be informed about the zionists, and their controlled ops who post helplessness BS on comment threads.
ThenAgainTheSkyIsFalling said:
“We DO have power, people are waking up, that IS power. How much power will they have when we all stop buying their crap, their food, using their banks etc etc etc.”
Instead of posting your garbage in stories related to what you’re talking about, you come on articles dealing with spiritual things that you know nothing about and spew your anti-Semitic rants about the food, chemtrails, this, that, and the other thing. Yes, a lot of this stuff is going on, but not all of them doing the bad things are Jews. And as a whole, the Jews are the chosen people of God. God will sort it all out. And yes, people should expose the stuff going on, but you come on articles like this and out of ignorance, you trample on the one thing that people need in these end times that are upon us. Yes, our food is toxic. But guess what? My God knows how to protect those that belong to Him. I don’t want those who don’t know God to be hurt by the chemicals in our food and water supplies, the financial collapse, and what not, but I’m offering them the one solution for all these problems. In spite of the junk in our food supply, in spite of the chem trails, I walk in divine health because I know the one true God. Jesus is the answer. Jesus is the name above all names. Financial collapse? Yeah, it’s coming. But my God takes care of those that belong to Him. If you want a peace that passes all understanding, if you want to find the place of protection for all that is coming, seek Jesus while He may be found.
And once again cartoon fake jesus is back to tell you ‘just sit on your rear, don’t look at those links, don’t do anything to inform others, just sit and be weak, listen to me, fake brand of cartoon jesus say
“And as a whole, the Jews are the chosen people of God.”
LOL !!! I knew it. No of course you don’t want people fully informed. I post in religious articles because zionist LIAR Supremacists like YOU are trying to get the ‘goyim’ to stay sheep, to stay uninformed and reading your crap to keep them weak. Well guess what you izraHell shill, you’re time is UP, people are waking up to your BS.
God loves the honest and despises the liars, that’s why Jesus through You liars and ‘money changers’ Out, but you don’t want to talk about that do you. And just how are you dealing with the Chemtrails fake cartoon jesus posting from izraHell? Think you’ll be one of the ‘rulers’? LOL. Jokes on you.
Everyone else, ignore fake cartoon jesus, remember that zionists like him call christians/gentiles ‘goyim’ – meaning stupid cattle behind your back. Why, just look at what HE wrote ‘jews are the chosen people’ – meaning YOU are cattle. Oh he’ll come back yapping oh no I didn’t mean that, but you take this zionist shill at his own word and definitely see all my links above especially this one
http://www.whtt.org/newwhtt/main.php?nid=2724
On just how zionist shills like cartoon jesus have tricked christians for decades, it’s an excellent one.
of course that should be – jesus -threw- you money changers Out
So, you don’t think that Islam is an abomination to Christianity? Figures. You are not only ignorant of the Bible, you are ignorant of the Quran as well. So not only are you a holocaust denier, you are also a Islamic sympathizer. Let me guess, you are pro-Palestinian, right? How’d I guess that?
am123 cartoon jesus just can’t shut it up, now this zionist supremacist is back to ‘islam’ bashing, another tactic to divert from the Zionists behind every bogus war, false flag, 911, the media etc. Keep yapping your lies zionist shill cartoon fake jesus, you only look more cartoonish. As for your ‘holocaust’ bs, as I stated below, anyone who searches HOLOHOAX will see the zionists have duped us all in order to take over the US, just as has happened.
cartoon jesus is getting desperate.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow until harvest [the evil and the good]
What is the harvest? Matthew 13:41 Christ shall send his angels who will remove the evil people and all things that offend.
The kingdoms of this world willl become the kingdoms of the Lord, and then is fulfilled Matthew 5:5, the meek and humble will inherit the earth.
READ YOUR BIBLES, as if every writing is of God? Then how it is Matthew 5:5, 13:41 and other passage conflict with the writings of Pharisees forged under Peter’s name wherein it states: look forward to and hasten the day of the Lord when heaven and earth shall be burned up (2 Peter 3:10-12). And as to looking forward to the day of the Lord, AMOS 5:18 WOE TO YOU THAT LONG FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD
John Rolls, you will end up in Hell, you have no excuse before the Lord as you have been enlighted to the truth that the false apostle Paul is a Pharisee (Acts 23:6, Philippians 3:5) and Christ says to convert to a doctrine of Pharisees is to become a child of Hell (Matthew 23:33).
All of you Pharisee Christians call Christ A LIAR for saying Pharisees never escape Hell (Matthew 23:33), as you fools believe Paul made a liar out of Christ!
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Actually ‘whatever’, you should post that up under am123 fake jesus cartoon guy, he’s an israhelli shill using religion to dupe others, whereas pharisee is using religious text to out the zionists (pharisees) behind all that’s happening to us, partially because christians have been sold down the river by paid off church leaders and fake jesus cartoon types such as on this comment thread.
Apollo is right.
Read the Bible carefully. It does not say there will be a rapture for anyone. In fact the word “rapture” is not even in the Bible. ISN’T THAT A CLUE ALREADY.
In fact the Bible says the OPPOSITE to the Saints. THEY WILL GO TO THE TRIBULATION. But God promises protection on EARTH not in made-up heaven theses devils and deceivers want you to believe.
yeah no one gets out alive, flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of god, your all gonna meet your maker, and suffer for your faith so get used to it, why are you so worried about pain and death? have you no faith? people die every minute and ya dont see them complaining do ya? this fear of death is gonna keep you from being strong, makes you suseptable to corruption to save your own skin, stop worrying about your own hide all the time buncha babies, have some balls and die with dignity for your beliefs dont let these dicks push you around. you’ll have life ever after, after meaning,… after your dead
yeah, just sit around and die. NOT. Get informed, and inform others, and stop buying all that crap from people who are behind all of this.
Jesus comes as a thief when no one sees him and also when everyone sees him. He has to come back twice to fulfill those promises. Also, Jesus promised the saints that they would escape the tribulation:
(Rev 3:10 NIV) Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
Satan hates the true Rapture teaching because people believe in it are more likely to live godly lives than those that don’t.
Trying to get people to want to die in your fake ‘rapture’ lol. How pathetic. No, we do not want to die from your zionist faked up WWIII or in your HAARP quakes and storms and the drought being caused by haarp now to kill the food supply for monsanto.
Nevermind your stupid rapture and ‘tribulation’, you’re being sprayed like a rat with chemtrails, the US congress /senate is gone and are state governments, to the zionist marxist scum who all also allow the NDAA and drones coming.
Sitting around talking about a ‘rapture’ is stupid of course, people should take my links above, copy and send them to others so we’re all informed about the zionists behind all of this, and phonies who yap about ‘raptures’ etc to distract from those facts.
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There is not going to be any pre-trib “rapture.” The sainted Doctors and Fathers of the ancient Church have condemned the “rapture” notion as heresy. Yet Protestants still preach “rapture” nonsense as dogma.
Furthermore, the tribulation is not going to last seven years. Christ himself said: “Unless those days had been shortened, no living creature would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened.” (MATTHEW 24:22) As God, Christ has the authority to modify the prophecies of Daniel for the sake of administering mercy to a sinful world.
Maybe Protestants are confused because they quote from unapproved versions of the Bible mangled and abridged by heretics. If a Bible does not contain an Imprimatur or Nihil Obstat, then it’s not entirely trustworthy to read.
It’s all about propaganda, to keep people from actual history of the zionists who are setting up all of this along with fake, paid off ‘church leaders’. see links above
pharisees are today’s zionists, who are ripping us off with the fed reserve, doing the false flags while many tricked christians unwittingly support them because they don’t know the facts.
Bible worshiping Pharisee Christians, the many who willl be before the Lord on judgment day and the Lord will tell them he never knew them (Matthew 7:22-23). The do not worship Christ, they worship the writings of Pharisee Paul, they worship their altars, their Eucharist and they worship their spiritual rulers in the churches.
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Christ says Pharisees never escape eternal condemnation (Matthew 23:33). The false apostle Paul is a Pharisee (Acts 23:6, Philippians 3:5). He taught a doctrine of UN-circumcision to COUNTER Christ’s doctrine of Circumcision (Galatians 2:7). The Pharisee Christians call Christ a liar for saying Pharisees are of Satan (John 8:44), for they love their EVIL DOER Pharisee Paul who says I DO EVIL (Romans 7:19).
Rev. 2:2 Christ COMMENDS those who CANNOT BEAR EVILDOERS, and you freaking Pharisee Christians kiss the feet of an evildoer, your beloved Pharisee Paul.
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A pre-tribulation rapture is not Scriptural. If you are a Christian, do not be misled by this article. It is in Satan’s best interest for you to believe you will be taken out of here before the tribulation starts, for you will not prepare yourself for what is coming and you will be cannon fodder for the forces of evil when all hell literally breaks loose. You will not be saved unless you remain firm until the end.
For more information, see:
RAPTURE ALERT: Millions of Christians have been deceived!
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The Pre-tribulation Rapture Trap
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How’s your Eschatology? Good? It Had Better Be!
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You will not be ‘saved’ unless you get informed and inform others on the zionists behind all of this and stop cheering for their fake wars, Debt, buying their porn, poison gmo food, big pharma and the rest. No one is going to be ‘saved’ just sitting on their butts or talking to jesus. Get informed.
These whom you call “zionists” are nothing more than agents of Satan. You strive against them through fleshly means, but you are powerless against their magic, which you are ignorant of. They have no power against a child of God who knows who he is in Christ Jesus. In the end, they lose and we win:
“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
—Revelation 3:9
Reposting the same crap again. save it fake jesus cartoon. nobody is buying your crap.
Don’t be comforted by false teachings as this. The Apostle Paul warned about such teachings:
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
—2 Timothy 4:3-4
The pre-tribulation rapture gives those with itching ears what they want to hear, that they won’t have to go through the tribulation period. Don’t be fooled. It is a trap.
There are numerous Scriptures which preclude the pre-tribulation rapture theory. Here is but one of them:
In the parable of the weeds (Matthew 13:24-30) and the explanation of it (Matthew 13:36-43), the weeds (the bad guys in the tribulation) are pulled up first and then the wheat (the Church) is gathered. No matter how you cut it, a pre-tribulation rapture contradicts this parable. Case closed.
It is a trap, to keep christians from getting informed so they think for themselves and can see the zionists behind all the propaganda and destruction they’ve caused and will continue to cause unless people get informed, now.
actually, the wheat and the tares are harvested together and then sorted. When you read matthew and revelation, the sorting has already been decided when “He” returns, yea, the return is the sorting and “saving” of the good and “destroying” of the bad. Too bad no one cares to know who “He” is……..
Actually, Jesus said the tares are gathered FIRST:
“Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”
—Matthew 13:30
am123, cartoon fake jesus.
It amazes me how people believe in such BS.
If someone wants to deny the Bible, that’s one thing.
What about a nominal Christian, reading about a thief in the night, the bridegroom coming at an unexpected hour, only God knowing the day — then not believing in the doctrine of imminency. Off hand, I’m not really sure what to call that.
Probably another Arminian focusing on men’s inadequate works, rather than God’s atoning grace.
Using logic and the words of Jesus Christ: Christ said those that endure until the end shall be saved.
The end can only be the return of Christ, which would mean God’s Saints must endure until their death or until they are resurrected at the return of Jesus Christ.
The reason, according to God the Father and Jesus Christ, for the Saints to suffer in this life is to build in them the Holy righteous character of God the Father.
God can do anything, but one, He can not create righteous character by a single command in an entity that has free moral agency.
If you will read the Bible with an open mind, you will see all of those God loved and that loved Him in return suffered over their entire life. We learn by suffering, We are tried in the fire of life, if we have no trials we are bastards. We are to be refined as pure gold.
So after God let all those like Abraham, Isaiah, Stephen and Jesus Christ Himself suffer during their lives, some in painful deaths, Now God will let a certain few escape the great tribulation and the war with the Beast power?? These must be very special folks!
If it is claimed it is to escape The Wrath of God coming on the whole earth — these folks are actually saying God no longer has the power He held in the days of Moses when He protected the children of Israel in their own homes from His wrath on Egypt.
The rapture followers are also saying the blood of our Passover lamb, Jesus Christ, is not enough protection for them.
that’s such bs. Idiots need a bashing on the head to learn that its not good to run through the forest with your eyes closed. That’s what the weak use as an excuse not to fight back. Some times a stubbon mind needs a few times to realise why he/she/it is makeing a mistake. But even a half way intellegent mind can reason. This world is nothing but a grendel is pokes and prods and uses every trick to find a crack in your armor and then use it to strip you and break you. The suffering you endure is because this place is evil. Controlled by evil and a hoard of f@!# faced minions the run things behind the veil. It grinds on you and grinds on you using all the tricks it has learned over a very long long time. It does make you purer but in the process it breaks you down and destorys what you were before you got here. That’s find for some because they were almost nothing when they arived so it makes them into something. And hopefully they can use it as a stepping stone. But to older things that get stuck here it is nothing but a hell in which you fight everyday. But with warfare whether its spiritual or physical you learn the enemy and grow stronger. I’m saying don’t be a victem of this world. The only way to fight is to know your in a battle. Don’t believe everything anybody tells you. This journey your on is yours alone. You are made up of a unique bunch of things and there for what you need to learn to be strong is not the same as anyone elses. Other people can give you clues but the path your on is yours alone. Mostly I tell you this for true. The ailments and problems of the flesh can be battled the same way all battles are won or lost right from the start. In your own will. And that’s just the beginning. Keep your eyes/mind/heart open. One should never be made to compromise on what your souls want. The rulers and the ones with pwoer want you to be nothing but cattle that they can push anyway they want as they themselves are. You have strength and you just need to learn to use that unique gift that everything has. Every curse has a benefit and every benefit has a curse. Think me a fool? Consider the past and how those with power always did there very best to keep those under them ignorant. If you had an abiltiy that allowed to to change the world to your better do you think they would start a free colage on it? No they make it a joke or worse they kill your for it. Its easier to make it a fairy tail joke then to kill because then you have to admit it is real. Don’t let this world break you you have the power to fight back. Its just up to you to figure out what your gift is. Take heart one may succed when all others fail. If one frees this world from the secret wicked then we all win by proxy.
The Bible IS the inherent word of God and as such is the Word of God not to be interpreted to suit yourselves, but to learn from as God intends you to! There is a message to be so gained in His Word as it is delivered!….His disciples were and are Holy men who died for Him and that purpose, so do not disparage them for in doing so you disparage God and the truth! Shame on you for trashing His Word!
Wishful Thinking!!! Saints have not been spared persecution over the past 2000 years and there is no reason to think that you are more of a saint than Peter, Paul, and all those who followed them! To the contrary, Christians will be the targets of persecution and death.
At the hands of the zionist/marxist/jews.
I got front row seat for The Rapture
Matthew 24:27 KJV
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
According to Matthew 24:21-22, 29, the great tribulation was to end just before the sun was darkened. The sun was darkened on May 19, 1780 (google that date), so the tribulation ended before that date. The “great tribulation” refers to the terrible persecution of God’s people during the dark ages. Millions and millions were slain for their faith during those years.
No secret rapture. Jesus told how God spared Noah and Lot and destroyed the wicked. He says specifically that the fire and flood destroyed them all. Plainly, in each case, a few were taken to safety and the rest were destroyed. Then He added, “Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” (Luke 17:30) To illustrate, Jesus continued. “Two men shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (Verse 36) There is nothing secret about it. Every eye will see Him. (Rev. 1:7) At His second coming, Christ publicly and openly takes the righteous up into the clouds and slays the wicked. That’s why Luke 17:37 speaks of “body” and Matthew 24:28 says “carcase” and both thither/there will the eagles (or vultures) be gathered together. (See also Rev. 19:17-18) The wicked who are left behind at Christ’s coming are left dead.
The 1,000-year period begins at the second coming of Christ when Jesus takes the righteous from this earth to heaven to live and reign with Him. (Rev. 20:4) At the close of the 1,000 years, “the holy city, new Jerusalem” (Rev. 21:2) comes down from heaven to the earth with all the saints and the wicked dead of all ages are raised to life. (Rev. 20:5) They surround the holy city to capture it (see Rev. 20:9, they compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city) and fire comes down from God out of heaven and devours them. This fire purifies the earth and burns up all traces of sin and sinners. Then God creates a new earth (Rev. 21:1) and gives it to the righteous and God will dwell with them, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (Rev. 21:3)
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The 5th Seal which is the great tribulation, a day so great like none other ever, did not occur in the middle ages.
It is right in front of us now, it is called the Time of Jacob’s Trouble, it is God punishing the whole house of Israel all 12 tribes, and only 3 tribes are considered Jews by God.
By the time Christ sets foot on this earth 90% of earths 7 billion people will be dead. For 3 1/2 years the Beast Power and the false prophet make war against and over come the Saints of God.
The 6th and 7th Seals are the Wrath of God on the beast power and all other gentiles. God will protect His Saints from His wrath but the beast will make war for 3 1/2 years.
There is no such thing as a rapture, but there are 3 resurrections. 99.9% of the articles and comments on this site are confusion.
@Truthseeker It seems you see yourself as the 0.1% that is not confused, even though you fail to differentiate the seals from the trumpets in this comment.
The first four seals are called by Jesus Christ the “beginning of sorrows” Matt 24. They began at the end of the time of the apostles. They increase until the 5th seal.
the 5th seal is the great tribulation, it last 2 1/2 years
the 6th seal is God intervening to prevent satan for killing all on earth, it also begins the Wrath of God. It is call the “Heavenly signs”.
The 7th seal contains the 7 trumps, the 7th or the last trump contains the 7 last plagues.
At the pouring out of the 7th vial of plagues, Christ from the throne of the Father in heaven call out ‘IT IS DONE”.
Here is the way the 3.5 year time of the end happens: This comment page will not let me keep this tab for easier reading, sorry
The 3.5 year Period of the End Times
The timeline: major events within the 3.5 year time period many call
The End Times. All comments in this analysis are based upon this timeline.
3.5 years, 42 months, 1260 days = A time, times, and half time.
Within that time period of 3.5 years the following events occur:
All five events below begin at the Fifth Seal and continue for the 3.5 years:
1 - The Time of Jacob’s Trouble
2 - The Time of the Gentiles
3 - The Two Witnesses given power
4 - The time given to the Beast Power to rule
5 - The time given to the Beast Power to make war and overcome the Saints.
The Fifth Seal** – First 2.5 years of the 3.5 years
The Great Tribulation is the Fifth Seal, lasting 2.5 years
The Sixth Seal – Is the last year of the 3.5 years and is the Heavenly Signs
The Sixth Seal begins The Wrath of God* and continues one year
The Sixth Seal begins The Day of the Lord and continues one year
A day for a year = one year for the Day of the Lord
The Sixth Seal begins The Day of Judgment and continues one year
The Seventh Seal – completes the remainder of the final year of the 3 1/2 years
The Seventh Seal contains Seven Trumps.
The Fifth Trump is the First Woe
The Sixth Trump is the Second Woe
The Sixth Trump has Seven Thunders
The Seventh Trump it is the Third Woe
The Seventh Trump contains The Seven Last Plagues
The Seventh Trump — also called the Last Trump
The Seven Last Plagues begin to be poured out by Angels at the Last Trump.
When the Seventh Angel pours out the 7th vial of plagues, the Last Plague –
“It is done!” The Wrath of God is done
The following five events commence immediately, following the 7th vial of plagues:
The Return of Jesus Christ
(His Return is a 24 hour period)
The First Resurrection: the First Fruits, the Two Witnesses and the 144,000
The casting of the Beast and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire
The Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty
The Second Exodus begins
(May take 75 day to reach Jerusalem? 1335 days
@Truthseeker,
Just with a quick cursory look at your timeline, I spot that you go the 3 woes correct, but you are incorrect about the timing of the resurrection of the 2 witnesses. You said that is one of the events that happens after the 7th trumpet (which signals the 3rd woe). But as per Revelation 11:11-14, the 2 witnesses are resurrected at the end of the 2nd woe, before the 7th trumpet and 3rd woe.
AM123,
You are correct. I can not prove by a ‘single’ (only one) scripture what occurs with the 2 witnesses, but using logic and overall understand of God and how He works here is what I based the above upon.
First, there are only three resurrections, the first is to eternal life, the second is to judgment of all that have not had their opportunity for salvation and the third is to eternal condemnation i. e. the 2nd death.
Jesus Christ is the first born to eternal life, none have come before Him, and none will be born again until the first resurrection, thus the 2 witnesses must be in the first resurrection. there can be no special separate resurrections to eternal life,
In Revelation 11 when they are brought back to life the Hebrew word used is pneuma meaning air which is what we breath, I can not show you a scripture but I believe what is to occur; the 2 witnesses are raise to physical life and taken to physical safety until the first resurrection. Elijah was moved, not to the third heaven but to another physical location to live out his life in safety.
Since there is not scripture showing even one human, born again or in any form, will be taken to the third heaven, I can not believe the 2 witnesses are taken to God’s Throne.
The Resurrection to eternal life as Sons of the Living God occurs for the very first time at the first resurrection, It is stated Christ come with ALL the Saints.
I realize this will not satisfy, but I do not have all wisdom and knowledge yet!
To address my comment about 99.9%, My beliefs and the way in which I worship my Father and follow the example of Jesus Christ do not place me in any of the 4000 flavors of Christianity. I am in the 1%.
@Truthseeker
If you really were seeking for the truth, as your screen name implies, you would a) believe Yahshuas words, b) not ignore history and c) not parrot human presumptions as truth. By ignoring history, the truth can be manipulated at will.
WHAT IF Yahshua did NOT lie, as so many of you seem to think, when He said
“Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” And there are many more teachings like that.
WHAT IF everything did come to pass between 66 and 70 AD as the historian Josephus described in detail?
WHAT IF we’ve all been deceived by those who did not believe He is the Messiah, who want to perpetuate the tribulations to eternity?
‘truthseeker’ you yap bible stats and don’t even know they have been rewritten by the zionists early generations, whose later generations now rip you off via the fed reserve and kill in fake wars and own all the media. You and ‘am123′ double teaming the junk up with as much BS as possible in order to make others feel helpless.
You are to be ignored, and mocked. Those ‘trumpets’ will be HAARP weapons.
ThenAgain said:
“Those ‘trumpets’ will be HAARP weapons.”
You haven’t a clue about the end the times. You are in for a rude awakening when all hell literally breaks loose. These flesh beings you fear, the ones at the top of your pyramid of the NWO are merely pawns of the power of darkness. If you remain in the state you are in now, dead inside, then when the war spills over from the spiritual realm into the earthly realm, you will be cannon fodder for the forces of evil or you will get caught in the fire of judgment from on high. Either way, you will be toast. My advice to you and everyone like you is to seek Jesus while He may be found, lest you perish in the soon coming destruction.
Still yapping diversion in order to divert from the fact that HAARP is a proven wmd. You want christians to believe the quakes, lightening trumpet bs will all be ‘nature’ and some bogus ‘rapture’ instead of the zionist military assault that it will be. Tough, I’m here to inform them and YOU are in for a rude awakening and you Know it, that’s why you’re working this so hard ‘stay dumb, don’t look, just sit and pray and don’t get informed, it’s not haarp it’s sssaatan’ LOL you and king of BS are a real pair.
It’s one thing to say be spiritually strong AND GET INFORMED on the zionists behind it all, and Stop paying them, Stop supporting them and the banker’s and their izraHell, it’s another to tell people just to sit on their butts and not to get informed on HAARP or anything else, which is what you are doing, you paid izraHell shill. Save your BS. Many of us well aware of the ‘hell that will break loose’ thanks to YOU zionists and the duped christians who are waking up too slowly, but Christians/gentiles ARE waking up and YOU will be ‘dead inside’ when we root out all you treasonous shills and put you in jail.
Check thus:
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“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.’ Romans 10:12
The Book of Genesis is absolute and literal.
What that says is you will believe me regardless of what is true or otherwise. Its a dictatorial statement which is precisely what all religion is “a man made control tool”
The year is before calendrical dating and the time is before time is recorded.
Lone wanderer stares at the night sky at glimpses a light blinking he has never seen before. “Is that morse code” he says to himself? “Nah, it hasnt been invented yet” so what could it be? I have never seen it before but then again I never go out after dark because there are “things” out here or so I am told. My godness what could it be? godness?? oh my goodness I HAVE DISCOVERED GOD and as I sat and stared until the sun came up to blow away the night cold and the beasts that huntI realised I was still alive and it was all down to god
and that is how “god” was Invented 
That happened when he was 12 years old and by the time he was 33 he was a sun of a god because he discovered him in the night sky. He never knew it back then before telescopes and lobotomys but he was staring at a distant planet that just might have been Saturn but hey ho never mind at least he have found a way to take billions of pounds from the sheep that followed and killed those who wouldnt and religion was born and all because a tiny insignificant little fart saw a light in an ancient sky and fell for his own foolishness.
Apart from according to the bible the strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelite, sporting the trendy Greek name of Jesus, preached to other strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelites to keep all the old Jewish laws better than the law keepers, including the over 100 laws on ritual animal sacrifices. And then on his next breath preached to practice the pagan rebirth ceremony. For which he would have been stoned to death for blasphemy. There is no baptism in Judaism, there is no eucharist either, both originate from paganism.
There are many contradictions, for example, Judges 1.19 contradicts the claim that the biblical deity is all powerful, it can be beaten by chariots of iron. So your claim about the bible being perfect is nonsense.
As for Christians being persecuted, the only examples are Christians doing the persecuting. They start whining persecution usually right after slandering and vilifying some poor sod who had the misfortune of being born differently, or women exercising their basic human rights, or after yelling anti social, riot inducing, antagonistic bollocks down a loudspeaker in a public place.
I am not replying to Pixie, (the evil spirit here), only to the readers of what Pixie has lied about, in the following gathered from her insane spew:
“the strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelite, sporting the trendy Greek name of Jesus, preached to other strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelites to keep all the old Jewish laws better than the law keepers, including the over 100 laws on ritual animal sacrifices. And then on his next breath preached to practice the pagan rebirth ceremony…”
1) The Hebrew Messiah did NOT CARRY THE NAME JESUS, a Greek name. At least Pixie got the Greek name part right cudos to that bit of truth. His name was and is the common Hebrew name carrying the name of IAUE. Yahushua, shortened to Yahshua. Or more shortened to Yoshua. (translated into English to Joshua). There is no sound of ‘J’ in Hebrew, either then, in Yahushua’s time on earth, or even now. No J sound. It is a Y sound, only. Where did “Jesus” come from? the Church Fathers who used a Greek translation of a name, which you cannot do. People do not translate proper names, they stay the same, for correct identifidaction. Ethiopians and Somalis, Cubans and Nicaraguans who come to an English-speaking country to live do not have their names translated – at least in legal docs. For the identification must remain true, even for regular humans. It’s important. Even more important in the spirit world where you invoke a name of a Deity and that is who you are going to hear from, or see. Correct name is for correct identification and this is a very important than in the spirit world.
“His name was and is the common Hebrew name carrying the name of IAUE. Yahushua, shortened to Yahshua. Or more shortened to Yoshua. (translated into English to Joshua).”
If it’s a Hebrew name then why is it translated into English as Jesus and not as you suggest Joshua?
The two names are not even remotely similar.
A word of advice, don’t call people liars when you know you have no evidence for a single claim of your own.
There is no baptism in Judaism, neither is there a eucharist. He was preaching to practice pagan ceremonies to the strict Jews who would have stoned him to death for blasphemy. That is a fact, not a debate.
“…preached to other strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelites to keep all the old Jewish laws better than the law keepers, (wrong: they were NOT LAW KEEPERS, THAT IS HIS POINT)
including the over 100 laws on ritual animal sacrifices. (This evil spewing Pixie above is making Yahushua’s whole point: that the many man-made laws added to the simple laws of Yahuwh, His Father’s laws, were sinning, causing the stumbling blocks to the people of Yah. He taught them not to do as the Rabbis were teaching them to do, for that was not the teadchings of Yahueh, His Father, and that was why he came to earth, to show how to keep only the laws of Yahuweh. Not the manmade horrible laws of religious hypocrites. (the Rabbis of his day).
Judaism as in Biblical Judaism, that is, Yahuda, is different,very different, from Rabbinical traditional (manmade) Judaism of that time and today.
In short, listen to nothing that Pixie (evil sprite) says about this or anything regarding the Bible or its real Messiah; she is frothing at the mouth with hatred for truth.
““…preached to other strict aesthetic Hebrew Israelites to keep all the old Jewish laws better than the law keepers, (wrong: they were NOT LAW KEEPERS, THAT IS HIS POINT)”
Er, yes they had law keepers, what an ignorant comment. Seems to me you know nothing about Judaism, why are you making claims from a position of complete ignorance?
There is no such thing as “Biblical Judaism” seeing as Judaism as a theological debatable religion didn’t start until after 70 CE, post the Roman empire wiping Israel off the face of Earth. The people in the OT were Egyptian trinitarian solarists, EG. osirIS + RA + EL = ISRAEL. Der.
“In short, listen to nothing that Pixie (evil sprite) says about this or anything regarding the Bible or its real Messiah; she is frothing at the mouth with hatred for truth.”
Sticks and stones. You must be worried otherwise you wouldn’t vilify people coming from an evidence based perspective, and call them such pathetically childish school yard names. Grow up you baby.
3) cutting down the lies of Pixie above, last but not least, she spews to the Christians here, and the many innocents who may happen upon these lies:
“…And then on his next breath preached to practice the pagan rebirth ceremony.” = NOT TRUE in anyone’s most twisted imagination.
The Hebrew Real Messiah named Yahushua (Yahshua) did NOT teach anything about a rebirth of the Sun God, for he is the one sent by Yah to FIGHT THAT ABOMINATION of a religion.
Whatever the Christian/Catholic ‘Universal’ Church says is nothing to do with the Bible. At least people need to have that straight, Pixie and Christians who want to know. The changing of the Bible by ‘Holy Church Fathers’ is well-known thru the history of the Church, and this is a sin according to their bibles, for which they the Church Fathers, will have their names blotted OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE! (so people, their sheep, should not do those things taught by Church Fathers).
I hope that no one is ever made to feel dismayed at any of the lies that Pix (as in Pixie: an evil sprite or evil, mischievous spirit) ever says on here about the Bible and its truths of IAUE, Yahueh, Yahweh. Men led of the spirit of the Adversary, Satan, have been inspired to change its contents, making it contradictory and removing the vital truths from it by subsuming its vital truths by their Solar Deity worship and Solar Christ doctrines, which are UNbiblical and Yah calls that an abomination which HE HATES.
Christians, do not believe these things that man changed in your bibles. We were warned about this. Study and show yourselves approved by diligence in ascertaining the truth.
By the way, if the Bible and history disagree anywhere, we are either being lied to in one of those, or we are lacking the correct information in one of them, as in, men removing and or changing the Bible which has been shown many times to be the case. These books are banned by the Universal Priesthood for the Solar Deity. You need to come out of her, so you can feel free to study and learn the truth for yourselves. Prove all things, whether they be so, says the Bibles you hold. Do not obey a mere man, a human being with hypocrisy, in robes, and in symbols and in rites which are condemned by that bible they hold, who tell you that you may not read certain banned books because they are not Church-approved.
If you do what they tell you in this and other things, without proving all of what they say in the Bible, in customs, in history, to be totally truthful and dovetailing, you are making it easy for them to lead you into the bloodshed spoken of of the sheep who are lied to by the Church. And this is a sin not to study to prove all these things, to see if they are truth or not.
“3) cutting down the lies of Pixie above, last but not least, she spews to the Christians here, and the many innocents who may happen upon these lies:
“…And then on his next breath preached to practice the pagan rebirth ceremony.” = NOT TRUE in anyone’s most twisted imagination.”
There is NO BAPTISM IN JUDAISM. der.
You prove over and over that your belief is based on denial, not on evidence or even knowledge of your own religion. People like you are the worst kind of fool, because by your vilification and prattle about how big a liar and how evil I am and anyone else who disagrees with you, that you don’t believe your own BS. If you did believe it, you would allow your ‘deity’ to do the judging. Instead, you are role playing your ‘deity’ so YOU can do the judging instead.
Great job everyone. You have restored, at least for a time, my faith in Humanity – in that there seems to be, at least on this site, an abundance of people that “Get it”!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a great weekend everyone!!!!!!!!!!!
The rapture is a lie. The chaff will be burned before the wheat is collected.
Yes, the rapture (the pre-trib rapture theory) is a lie. The chaff or tares (which look just like the normal plant) will be burned, but first, the wheat or truth-believers, or truth-lovers, and the faithful to the truth, and the ignorant and innocent ones, will be protected from the fire that consumes them. Not taken up in the sky, protected though. The lifting up into the clouds of the truth-lovers and innocents will not happen until (and this is the biblical, for the one who posted this story) the visible return of Yahushua (Yahshua) – the Messiah of the Bible, NOT THE SOLAR CHIRST/LORD GOD SOL INVICTUS, not that entity – AND the resurrection of the righteous dead from their graves. When these resurrected dead good people are in the air to meet their Messiah, Yahushua, with all his Father’s angels, (warrior protector spirits) with their new bodies which will never die, or age, or be ill, then, and only after them, will the ones which are alive remaining on the earth be caught up together with them in the air.
This is the order of it, if you want to call that a rapture, it is a word, in the greek translation, but it DOES NOT HAPPEN BEFORE THE TRIBULATION, ONLY AFTER IT ALL HAS HAPPENED.
pLEASE give the place in your Bible where it says this? your statement: “THE HOLY BIBLE IS PERFECT, “THE RAPTURE WILL, WITHOUT QUESTION, OCCUR BEFORE THOSE SEVEN HORRIBLE YEARS.”
It does NOT say that. Anywhere. You are a liar. Why do you lie to the sheep?
Why? do you people constantly quote the bible. In the higher realms they call it Satans War Book. It is the constant study of this that has duped us into CREATING all the evil and ultimately the tribulation in “THE REVALATIONS” WE set it in motion many, many years ago. We are all creators this is what we came here to do. We create our own reality both individually and collectively, we are all one conciousness.everything we think effects the whole. GOD is our creator he created man through his thought. It is not a question of who he chooses, he wants all his children to come home. It is a question of who chooses him. Do you choose to continue to believe the lies or do you choose to learn the truth of who you really are. When God made this beautiful earth he made it with total precision and balance and he gave us 18 not ten laws we had to follow to keep that balance. We failed to do so. Jesus came to earth 2000 years ago to to show us and re-awaken the knowledge within us. But we didn’t listen or understand and WE crucified him. WAKE UP people. Read “THE PHOENIX JOURNALS” http://www.fourwinds10.net/journals/ they are the truth which God promised to send at the END TIMES. Learn about all the lies and deception, the truth about UFOs http://hatonnspeaksthetruth.wordpress.com/ and the truth of your existence. Turn away from Satan and back to God and you can all go home with Esu (Jesus) Immanuel Sananda. It aint Rocket Science. You’ve heard the saying truth is stranger than fiction well IT IS. DO NOT underestimate yourself YOU ARE A TRULY AMAZING BEING.
The “Falling Away” is scripture. The rapture is not. To clarify as simply as possible, the falling away is the 1/3 that Satan gets because they were deceived by the false doctrine of the end times. Rapture is nowhere in God’s word except when described as false doctrine and “God hates those that would teach his children to fly to save their souls”. We are not going to fly away from the tribulation, we are to testify and teach during that time. The one who stays in the field doing God’s work means the one who does not run to worship the false christ.—- The unforgivable sin is to NOT let the Spirit speak through us during the trials and tribulation. —-God’s Kingdom will be established here on Earth after the cleansing. Why would you want to go anywhere else. Where would you be going if Christ is here? Being “Caught up with Christ” in the air means to be ascended to our spirit form, not flying away from the battle between good and evil. —-The man of sin will be revealed to be the false christ after that 1/3 has been claimed by Satan. If he was revealed before that, then no-one would fall for his lies would they. We must remember that antichrist comes at the 6th trump and will be revealed BEFORE Christ establishes his Kingdom on Earth. Christ doesn’t return until the 7th trump. Read and learn God’s word for yourself and listen to him, not man.—- Beware of modern translations of the bible, they have clearly been written to fool Christians into falling for the rapture theory. Compare those scriptures that you believe prove rapture to the old bibles and you will clearly see the deception. God will bless those who are patient like he told us to be. May your studies be blessed with understanding of God’s truths and warnings.
Sadly, this well-written article–no doubt well-intentioned–is a waste of ink. The entire focus is a waste of time. Pre-Trib, Post-Trib, Pre-millennial, a-millennial, or Post-millennial? Who cares? What a waste of time it is arguing this topic. To show how out of balance this pastor is–a guy who should know better–all you have to do is count the number of times he talks about wrath–48 times. Then compare and see how often he referenced the concept of His Grace—only 6 times. That’s an 8:1 ratio of focusing on God’s wrath instead of focusing on what God would have focus on—the fact that GOD IS NOW AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE MOMENT HE RIPPED THE VEIL IN THE TEMPLE at THE MOMENT HIS SON DIED AND BOUGHT ALL MANKIND’S DEBT–PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE–AT PEACE WITH ALL MANKIND–PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE. This training is rough to be sure. Unfortunately this training reflects US—who we really are. This training has an eternal purpose though for mankind’s benefit–even though it would appear to be otherwise in many, many cases. In the meantime–and I’m referring to all of you believers–you should start teaching the Gospel given to the nations and quit smearing God’s name by focusing so much on His wrath. He has paid the debt and I mean all of it. He has earned the right to be at peace with mankind and He has earned the right for us to believe it. Thus Paul shares God’s Gospel in all 13 of his letters: Grace and Peace to you from the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ This is the true source of comfort–for believer and non-believer alike. I wish all believers would start sharing this declaration with the world—for it is what the world so desperately needs to hear.
You said,
“The entire focus is a waste of time. Pre-Trib, Post-Trib, Pre-millennial, a-millennial, or Post-millennial? Who cares? What a waste of time it is arguing this topic.”
Jesus cares about this topic. Why do you think He spent so much time warning about the end times? Because if we do no remain firm in our faith until the end, not remain firm in your faith until before the tribulation, but remain firm until the end, you will not be saved (see Matthew 24:13).
Too many Christians are either living in la-la land, thinking they won’t be here for the tribulation period, or they are nonchalant about the end times—hence, they will not be ready for it, and they will either be deceived or shaken in their faith and they will not be saved.
Jesus was extremely adamant about warning us not to be deceived in the end times:
“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
—Matthew 24:4
“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:5
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:11
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
—Matthew 24:24
Who was Jesus talking to? To the body of Christ of course, to believers.
We know from the Scriptures that the Antichrist will come with his great magic to deceive people. We also know that anyone who is deceived and receives the mark of the beast will suffer the full wrath of God and will end up in the lake of fire. So it is vital not to be deceived. Hence, we get repeated warnings from Jesus and the Apostles to not allow ourselves to be deceived.
So I ask this of those Christians pursuing the truth: If Jesus is going to rapture the Church out of here before the Antichrist comes upon the scene, why then did He warn us so adamantly about being deceived? If Christians aren’t going to be around for the great deception, there would be no reason to warn them about it. But the truth of the matter is Jesus warned us because we WILL be here during the time of the beast, for Jesus prayed this to the Father:
“I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”
—John 17:15
The truth is our faith must be strong. We must be able to stand against the wiles of the Devil and his cohorts. If your faith is not firm, you will not be able to stand until the end and be saved.
It is imperative that you study the Scriptures for yourself. Read, pray, and meditate upon the Scriptures. Search the Scriptures diligently and do not rely on what others say for many of them will be, and have been, deceived, like the author of this article.
It would do Christians of today well to consider what one of the greatest scientists of all time, Sir Isaac Newton, said concerning the importance of Christians knowing the end time prophecies. He drew a parallel between how the learned Jews missed the first coming of the Messiah because they were deceived and how it will be no less possible for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist. He said if God was angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies which He had given them to know Christ by, why should we think He will excuse us for not searching into the prophecies which He has given us to know the Antichrist by? For certainly it must be as easy for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist as it was for the Jews to reject Christ. And therefore, it is as much our duty to endeavor to be able to know the Antichrist and avoid him as it was the duty of the Jews to know Christ and to follow Him.
The study of eschatology should be no small matter to Christians today. But sadly, many Christians today, who are Christian in name only, are indifferent to the prophetic Scriptures. Much of their indifference and apathy, which puts them in grave danger, is due to this doctrine of demons known as the pre-tribulation rapture theory. They are not concerned with the Book of Revelation and end times because they believe they won’t be here for it. It is no wonder why Satan has perpetrated this myth. It serves his purposes greatly, for the warnings of Jesus have fallen on millions of deaf ears.
Indifference to the end time prophecies should not be an option for Christians today. The Antichrist is coming to deceive the whole world if he can. Woe unto those who are not ready.
Jesus is white and wore eye make-up, according to the photo of Jesus that you took.
Actually, the picture looks like a perverted serial killer.
Geeeeeze … I guess I can add my bit of insight among all that is here … but wherever the truth lay … time will tell …
Now I consider that there will be a rapture call as a people from all over the world from all most walks of life and from most all ethnic groups, are taken in a split second aboard crafts and domicile structures like that old mothership of Zion which will be the New sky based capital city of old Israel …
But I consider that at the same spilt second .. there will be that metaphoric Harvest in which a people will be shifted into an alternant Utopia gravitation field of the Mother Earth … and from there a people will be evacuated from the surface of the earth’s core due to an upcoming birth of a new star right in the vicinity of the earth itself …
But no Positive Light God, lord or king would kill another because they of free will choose to not follow in faith and deed … those that kill in the name of their faith have been beguiled by the negative light ..
consider that … the representative of that satanic negative light has already deceived the whole world and did so even before consciousness of evil took over the Catholic church .. I consider there are several sides to this understanding but two are most prevalent .to mainstream .
The celestial Jesus of Nazareth is representative of the Positive Light energy signature of Divine Energy and Power of Positive Light which can be identified in ways of truth, peace and good social behavior … where as that celestial whom was cast from the heavens so very long ago remains of the negative light energy and superficial ways of negative love which can be identified in practice of lies, misbehavior in moral character, supporting in wars and monetary matters of this world …
Sooo many wait for the satanic to deceive the christians when the christians has long since been following the satanic in their faith being beguiled by the negative light and ways there of …
Now a third aspect to the story is that the celestial Muhammad is of the Good and Righteous source of Divine Power which is compatible an none destructive to the Positive Light … and have kept free of the electron particles which are those sin-ions of the negative light …
And I consider that a representative of the ancient seed of Cain which is metaphorically referred to as the devil … is that decaying source of power having been in alliance with the satanic celestials and their negative light source ..
am123 and Then again
I tend to think that both of you are right.
Revelation 2:9
“I know about your suffering and your poverty—but you are rich! I know the blasphemy of those opposing you. They say they are Jews, but they are not, because their synagogue belongs to Satan.
In the Talmud which is their holy Scriptures they blaspheme Jesus Christ ,son of God our Father,and by doing so they can and will not accept God.
They are simply speaking evil and Satans Children,that are Ruling America now,since they failed their Agenda in the late 30′s in Germany.
am123 is not ‘right’, only in one comment did he claim to acknowledge zionists (most jews) are behind it all, that was only to fake up some legitimacy, then look at all his other replies, all zionist supremacist crap, ‘jews are god’s chosen’ and yapping about ‘holocaust denial’ because he wants readers to continue believing the HOLOHOAX lies. He’s an izrahelli shill posing as some sort of fake cartoon jesus preacher in order to keep the sheep duped into the zionist agenda which is killing the US. Read All of his replies, completely obvious.
Jesus was extremely adamant about warning us not to be deceived in the end times:
“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
—Matthew 24:4
This warning was for those living in the days associated with Jesus of Nazareth unto the end times … warning against those who teach not of God’s celestial kingdom but in support of this world and it’s monetary system ..
“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:5
This has been going on since the days of Jesus of Nazareth … as many leaders are confession to be Christ-ians … but are not teaching ways and characters of the Positive Christ …
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:11
This too has being going on since the days associated with Jesus of Nazareth
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
These things have already been and yet are until the end of these evil times
—Matthew 24:24
Who was Jesus talking to? To the body of Christ of course, to believers.
To followers of doers bearing characters associated with the Positive Light
All I’m reading is a bunch of trash talk from a bunch of so called Christians. I am a Christian who loves The Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart and just because I believe in a pre trib rapture does not mean that I’m doomed to Hell or that I’m going to fall away when I find I’m in the tribulation. I love you no matter what happens ok! If we are raptured out before during or after it does not matter my God is able to keep me from that hour of temptation. People now days are having a hard time separating what Jesus is saying to Israel and what he is saying to the church. The bottom line is let’s pray for one another despite what we believe in, pre trib, mid trib or post trib. Lets preach Jesus and get people saved! The world bashes us enuf we sure don’t need to bash each other this late in the game.
Listen, there is nothing wrong with having a strong spirituality, but there is everything wrong some of what you just wrote. If you read this thread again and this comment, you go back up the thread and READ the Links I provided for you. That information is not easy to come by. You get some real information and real history, and stop praying for people who have slaughtered hundreds of millions of people and who have set up laws to Kill You.
You continue paying the zionists by buying their poison gmo food, vaccines, their pharma, you continue using their credit and buying their crap that you don’t even need, not realizing you pay the very people behind all of this.
Get educated, and tell others about the zionists that are killing this country, and setting up to take you and all of us out.
There is no rapture. It is called the resurrection. Noah in his ark was not as safe as heaven. If you want to be His bride then the great tribulation is for you to perfect you and make you without spot or blemish. If you live through the great trib., then He will come for you His bride after He raises the dead in His bride first. Then He will pour out His wrath. Without the Tanach (OT), there is no understanding of end time prophecy. Physical Yisrael will be protected in the wilderness. Perhaps God will call you to grab a tzi-twit of a Jew.
And here comes yet another zionist marxist scum. No, you do NOT own god, you do NOT dictate to others.
People are waking up by the hundreds of thousands every week to the Holohoax scam, to the fact zionists are behind it all from the fed to the media to all of it. izraHell is going to be isolated and hopefully burned to the ground, at the same time all the US congress/senate/bankers/war profiteers/monsatan etc are put in jail.
If you deny the holocaust, why should anyone take what you say seriously?
“am123
If you deny the holocaust, why should anyone take what you say seriously?”
show me one gas chamber..
If you deny the holocaust, your credibility goes out the window.
“am123
If you deny the holocaust, your credibility goes out the window.”
im not denying anything… im asking for proof of what you believe in… because if im to believe something without proof… well.. that would be kinda stupid..
so.. got any proof? one gas chamber? is that too much to ask?
If the historical record of the holocaust is not enough proof for you, you are either being obtuse or you are denying reality.
“If the historical record of the holocaust is not enough proof for you, you are either being obtuse or you are denying reality.”
ive never seen a picture of a gas chamber.. have you? surely there must have been many..
there has been many instances of historical records being written deliberately misleadingly..
i didnt think youd be able to find a picture.. for the same reason youre babble on about religion.. you believe all sorts of BS
its time to grow up.. and stop denying reality
if people were not afraid of the truth, why has questioning the holocaust been made illegal in places? hmmmmm?
whatcha scared of ? truth?
am123 along with all the zionist liars are freaking out, because they are Losing the Holohoax LIE and once they lose that they lose everything. A simple startpage.com search on ‘holohoax’ will net lots of pages of results.
am123, cartoon fake jesus.
I deny the systematic and deliberate gassing of six million Jews.
Well good for you then, ‘middle aged mayhem’. The ‘gas chambers’ have long been proven a hoax. The only ‘chambers’ were for de-lousing clothing using zyclon B, a pesticide agent. There were NO one ‘gassed’ to death. A search of the term ‘holohoax’ will net people the education they should have received in school, but have instead been fed phony lies so the zionists could take over the US and world, then kill the US, just as they have and are doing.
Correct.
Why people don’t understand that Jesus ( the only perfect of Israel ) is now the King of those who are made perfect by Faith and obiedence to Jesus as Creator/ Redeemer. We are now Spiritual Israel, and actual physical Israel lost her blessing in 34ad. ( Daniel 9:24-27 , and the order to COMPLETE the rebuilding of Jerusalem by Artixerxies the Media/ Persian king of conquered Babylon ( search: stone table found that tells of order to rebuild Jerusalem by Artexerxies. ).
Like you said, I’d they could read the OT, they’d have known this truth if they had asked God to shown them by His Spirit. But then they’d know who the anti ( in the room of, in place of, a substitution ) Christ power is in Daniel/ Revelations is, what the Mark of the Beast truly is ( 1 st day ), what will happen to believers in minute detail during the tribulation ( Isaiah ), and how the entirety of the OT is but the story of the life of Jesus in type combined with the prophetic warnings of our future.
God was correct, Peopke are perishing because they lack knowledge.
Sad, but the once saved always saved crowd won’t fit into the new suit, only those who’s HEARTS are right through the constant application of FAITH induced obiedence to God on a daily basis shall be considered worthy to enter his kingdom. Gods will NOT kick Lucifer and his sin out the front door to invite anyone else and their sin in the back door, to think otherwise is foolishness indeed.
Funny, but if I lived my life by anymore faith than I now do, I might never need to get out of bed at all. For truly, I depend upon Gods Spirit to be my guide in all I do, especially that which I think I k ow how to do already. That’s not to say I don’t sin, for I’d be sinful to say so, but there is no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus, and He is my advocate should I sin.
Thank you for your post.
God Speed
Stēkō
LOL. selling izraHell to those still swallowing it. ‘We’ are not izraHell anything. IzraHell is a terrorist state, created by the zionist bankers to foment war with the US they control, in order to build a ‘world police’ which they now have, thanks to stupid people who believe crap like you’re selling.
Luckily many are waking up to the Lies of the Holohoax and who is behind all the destruction, now taking down the US. My links above show that for those who are waking up.
Steko,
For someone who says he walks by the Spirit, you are clearly showing you don’t. God has an irrevocable plan for natural Israel. All you need to do is read Romans 11. Christians for the most part have missed the Truth because they walk blindly rejected the Torah and Tanach by doing so they are rejecting Yeshua (Jesus). Most christians have adopted another Jesus that was taught by ignorant antisemitic gentile men from the time of Constantine. Almost all of the doctrines taught in the church are lies. If you we’re truly in the Spirit you would understand the heart of the Father for physical Israel. You are arrogant against the natural branches and are in danger of being cut off.
‘eliyahoo’, another paid zionist shill likely posting from izraHell, who has bilked over 100 Billion from US taxpayers over the last thirty years, along with billions more going to phony Holohoax ‘victims’. You don’t want that gravy train to stop, you don’t want christians/gentiles to know that zionists/jews call All gentiles ‘goyim’, or any of the other facts which prove the US was taken over and is being killed by zionists. Or how US zionists and izraHellis did 911, or how nutenyahoo said ’911 is good for israel’ and now US taxpayers are now laying out hundreds of millions for bunkers in izraHell which bunkers are called ’911′. Too bad you don’t want people informed, because despite your nonsense people are waking up.
God is taking his Bride out before the tribulation starts. This judgement is different from all the judgements of the past. Jesus is coming back to save Israel and the ones who are saved during the tribulation period, they will be the ones who will go on to repopulate the earth during the thousand year reign of Christ on earth. We the Saints of God will come back with him to reign as kings and priest. The saints that are killed during the tribulation will follow Jesus where ever he goes and will hold a special place in his heart. Why!!! Have a thousand year reign if there is not going to be people on the earth? Think about it ok, what’s the use in letting the Devil out to go and temp the nations again ? Even though we are all the same we are still 3 different groups. The Old Testament Saints, the New Testament Saints( the Bride) and the Saints that come out of the tribulation period. And if you love God ( as you say you do) then why do you hate Israel ? God still loves his people the Jews remember what he told Abraham? I will bless those who bless you and will curse those who curse you. If you hate the Jew then you are following in your father the Devils foot steps. Because he hates Israel. There is a mean spirit full of hate in your words.
Anyone who expresses faith in “that blessed hope” of the pre-trib Rapture is vilified in this place. My own article about it here got nothing but hate in response. It is to be expected that our Adversary does not want anyone to look for Jesus but only for His impostor.
‘human being’, vilified because you’re focusing on a zionist bogus story that was created to do just what you’re doing and what fake cartoon jesus wants you to do, instead of getting informed on WHO is behind ALL of the destruction, cartoon jesus and followers like you just want people sitting around talking about a fairy story ‘raptures’ and ‘believing’ you’ll be ‘saved’ when in fact sitting on your butt and not getting informed will Not ‘save’ you. Get informed on Facts on the zionists behind it all, and stop buying their products, and tell others. Sitting around talking about a bogus ‘rapture’ changes nothing.
ThenAgain, you have no idea how informed I am. One does not need to be misinformed in order to reach a different conclusion than you have. Your rant does nothing to persuade anyone to change their mind. I would challenge you to take your own advice and “get informed on facts” rather than “sitting around talking” and flaming people who disagree with you.
Im not a Christian,though I have studied the bible,as well as scams…the bible clearly states there will be no rapture prior to the great tribulation,the church only recently began teaching this. They lose tax exempt status if hey don’t, because they want politically lazy Christians
…verses like “coming like a thief in the night”…”no man knows the hour” are always read cherry picked. It clearly says ,if you keep reading…that this will happen after the tribulation..You see,the attack Christians is by Jewish groups,and this sight is a Jewish run site…It tells you plenty of truth,but wont connect the dots on the Jewish rats behind gun control,open borders,false flags,ect
im not a gynecologist – but ill look into it…
LOL the pre-tribulation rapture is definitely not scriptural. Do you even know where eschatology canme from? Man-made doctrine, much like Christianity did.
“I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.” (John 17:15)
^ this alone proves why you should not listen to false teachings, constructed with misinterpreted passages of scripture.
Oh, you’ll be deceived even worse if you fall on your face to worship one who comes in the name “jesus” — as there was no Hebrew man with a Greek name 2,000 years ago.
You got your prophecies on the wrong orders.
First will come the Antichrist. And then, before the coming of Jesus, but during the tribulation is when the rapture will occur. The Bible itself explain why Jesus was coming and if those days where not shortened not even the elected would be saved.
I love these comments. Until we one realize who, what we truly are.
Divine beings created in the image and likeness of, how can u not be
that which u come from. Dog beget dogs, cats cats, humans humans.
There is always order in the universe, as it is above so it is below.
The ruling elite, hum. All the confusion chaos is not by accident.
Are they evil? I do know they are creating all the confusion anxiety
and separation. To keep us all from oneness, to take our eye off
of the prize.
As for the God I am one with. He is not jealous. Because if you are the supreme and most powerful
above all else then there is no need.
So what if this world is blown to smithereens.
He’ll is here we are in it. Our goal is to get back home to source.
All those who believe that the Father/Mother would send their own
to eternal torment.
Then ask yourself if you could not send your child to eternal torment why would that which
we come from in all perfection and glory do the same to us.
Conflict, God cannot have conflict because he would not be supreme.
As it is above so it is below.
The truth is within you, read all that u can but your spirit, the Holy Spirit higher self is
the one that knows and reveals truth.
Yes hearts are searched, when Yeshua was asked what is the greatest commandment of all.
Love your neighbor as thyself.
How many time did Yeshua say forgive, 70 times 7.
If we get it wrong we just get to stay in this hell hole til we one by one get it right.
‘are they evil’ – If you see slaughtering over 260 million people in fake ‘wars’ as evil, and the usury of the fed reserve, the liar media etc. People can use their spiritual strength to become informed, and share it with others, that’s a positive use of spiritual energy. Though on your note about ‘forgiveness’ I would hope you’re not implying that should apply to those we are under assault by, as that would be a bit premature, so, unless you’re insane I’ll assume you’re talking about forgiving small trespasses by our neighbors etc, NOT forgiving those such as the zionists who have been assaulting mankind for centuries, who are now aimed at taking down the US and everyone in it.
Hell is coming to Earth but there is no rapture. The great deception is fallen angels/demons presenting themselves as “aliens”.
Aliens are aliens. The zionists in control of the US/military have been allowing them to take humans for decades. An invasion will be part real/part faked, see HAARP and project bluebeam, and my links above for Who is behind all this, the fed reserve destruction of our financial system, the media, the false flags etc., all zionists.
It is you who have been duped. There are no aliens, as in visitors from another planet. The aliens are nothing more than demonic entities posing as aliens from another planet. They cannot harm anyone with faith in Jesus. That is what they fear, the name above all names, Jesus.
I agree with the article but….we must always remember ….A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still! If the Holy Spirit of God has not opened their eyes to this truth….what a great surprise they have when it occurs!
According to your ‘argument’ the wrath of God is poured out at the beginning of the tribulation or after–as you say–the pre-tribulation rapture where the saints are removed from earth.
If this is the ‘end of days’ and the beginning of judgment upon the unsaved, why would anyone need to know that this period will last seven years? Why would God let ‘the saved’ know that His wrath on the lost was going to last seven years?
This does not make sense. God’s judgment on the lost is His business.
The ark of Noah is the perfect example of the end of days. Once God closes the door (the end) there will be no more chances for salvation. If you are on the boat (found righteous by the Blood of Christ) you will be saved. If not, you will drown as God’s water (wrath) is poured out over the earth.
16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in. – Gen 7:16 KJV
“…and the LORD shut him in.”
DOOR CLOSING…then it poured; ‘CURTAINS’…then wrath. AT THE END!
The pre-tribulation doctrine is false.
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No where in the bible does it ever talk about a PRE-TRIBULATION it only talks about tribulation I do not know who wrote this but they nee to re-read their Bible, I do believe tribulation will happen before Christians are subjected to what is to come but no one knows when that will be.
ThenAgain
Are the minions at the to that are creating the chaos part of Gods creation.
Or are they of another.
So much to ponder, much more than what we have always been taught.
Yeshua never said anything about selective forgiveness.
You know I take my spiritual growth incrementally.
I don’t claim to have all the answers. There are a lot of times I just don’t know.
Just maybe the rapture will occurs when love and oneness is greater than that of the world.
When the Christ Conciousness awaken in most of man kind
12-21-12 was possibly the end of the age. It was a reset of time back to 0.
The bible never mentioned the end of the world?
But it did mention the end of time?
Food for thought.
Stupid Mayhem NZ Spinster
Wake up ,mind you you live in a country that time has forgotten and ypou live off their propaganda from just after the War. Meanwhile a lot of research has gone into this Matter .
Here is one of them:The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:
“I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
By supporting them you all unknowingly already received the Mark of the Beast.
Proof that they have been lying to all of you,to extort trillions of dollars and sympathy under which umbrella they have protected themselves and deceived all of you:
If 6 million Jews Died than explain this!
- World Almanac,1933,pg.419 world Jewish population(15,316,359)
- World Almanac,1936,pg.748 world Jewish population(15,753,633)
- World Almanac,1938,pg.510 world Jewish population(15,748,091)
- World Almanac,1940,pg.129:World Jewish Population(15,319,359)
- World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289:World Jewish Population 15,713,638
There were 394,279 MORE Jews in 1949 than in 1940?
Do your Math People and get your Head out of your Behind,mind you ignorance might be a blessing if they come for you, and they will.