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Muslims Just Declared This Man Their Leader—Many Are Even Calling Him God…AntiChrist?

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By Lisa Haven

 

If you have never heard the term “we are living in the latter days”–a term that prophecies about a time period that will occur at the very end of our age—then it’s about time you’ve become well acquainted with the words. Because we are living in the latter days and we are the generation that will witness prophetic fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

The Bible doesn’t lack when it comes to prophecy. In fact there are hundreds of prophecies all throughout the Bible which predict future events and all written thousands of years before they happened. One prophecy in particular states that the Antichrist—an evil dictator believed to be Satan incarnate—rises to rule the world and gets Israel to sign a 7 year “peace” treaty:

“He [the Antichrist] will make a treaty with the people [Israel] for a period of one set of seven [7 years], but after half this time [3.5 years] he will put an end to sacrifices and offerings…” (Daniel 9:27)

It is this prophecy that we are on the brink of seeing fulfilled today, and while no one knows with 100% certainty who the Antichrist will be, we can look at current events and get a glimpse of what we might see ahead. 

According to a recent news report the Muslim nation is now claiming one promenade leader to be their head over their Islamic Caliphate, and the man who they are claiming certainly fits the bill as a candidate. 

Here is the breaking report…

 

Could the Muslims Mahdi and Christian Antichrist actually be the same person?  As a Christian, I have to say that the similarities are quite compelling! 

Below is a chart I complied with information—and the sources I grabbed them from—so you can determine what the truth really is about these two characters:

 

The Biblical Antichrist

The Muslims Mahdi (Their messiah, The 12th Imam)

The antichrist will be a leader who has the ability to speak boldly.

 

“…and a mouth speaking pompous words.” Daniel 7:7-8

“… And he was given a mouth speaking great things…” Rev. 13:5

The Mahdi will be a leader who has the ability to speak boldly.

 

“He will be so powerful that if he… shouts among the mountains, hard rocks will turn into powder…”(Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 32; Al-Hurr al-Amili, Ithbat al-Hudat, Vol. 6, p. 19)

The Antichrist will be accompanied by the false prophet who will lead people into serving him.

 

Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.” Revelation 19:20

The ‘Muslim Jesus’ (not to be confused with the Christian Jesus) will return to help the Mahdi get accepted by the world.

 

 The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43: Kitab-ul-`Ilm (Book of Knowledge), Hâdith Number 656)

The Antichrist will have a powerful army that will do damage to the earth. Ultimately causing all to follow him.

 

“So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life…” Rev. 3:4-8

The Mahdi will also have a powerful army that will do damage on the earth. Ultimately causing all to follow him.

 

“Mahdi will receive a pledge of allegiance as a caliph for Muslims. He will lead Muslims in many battles of jihad. “ Abdulrahman Kelani, The Last Apocalypse, An Islamic Perspective, (Fustat, 2003), pp. 34-35

“If you see him, go and give him your allegiance…” Ibn Maja, Kitab al-Fitan #4084 as quoted by Kabbani, p. 231

The Antichrist will be a world leader and rule for seven years.

 

“He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven [7 years]…” Daniel 9:27

“Authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.…” Rev. 3:7

The Mahdi will be a world leader and rule for seven years.

 

“The Mahdi… will fill the earth with equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years.” Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4272, Narrated by Abu Sa’id al-Khudri

“Fight against the forces of evil, lead a world revolution and set up a new world order…”  Ayatullah Baqir al-Sadr and Ayatullah Muratda Mutahhari, The Awaited Savior, (Karachi, Islamic Seminary Publications), prologue, pp. 4

The Antichrist will change times and laws.

 

He..shall intend to change times and laws.” Daniel 7:25

The Mahdi will more than likely adopt the Islamic calendar thus changing the times. In addition he will promote Shariah law changing the laws.

 

“He…will govern the people by the Sunnah of their prophet and establish Islam on the earth.” (unan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin)

There is a white horse rider in the Bible that is bad news for the world.

 

“…Behold a pale horse. He that sat on him…went forth conquering and to conquer.” Revelations 6:2

The Mahdi comes riding on a white horse.

 

“It is clear that this man is the Mahdi who will ride the white horse and judge by the Qur’an (with justice) and with whom will be men with marks of prostration (zabiba) on their foreheads.” ‘Izzat and ‘Arif

The Antichrist and false prophet will promote a one world religion.

 

 He…causes as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed..” Revelations 13:15

The Mahdi will make Islam the only acceptable religion.

 

“He…will govern the people by the Sunnah of their prophet and establish Islam on the earth.” (unan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin)

The Antichrist will execute infidels through beheading.

 

“I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. ” Revelations 4:20

The Mahdi will execute infidels, anyone who does not believe in Islam, through beheading.

 

“I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”  Surah 8.12

“Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads…” Surah 47:4 

The Antichrist will kill Jews and Christians. He will kill anyone opposing him.

 

“He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them…” Revelations 13:7

“The dragon [Antichrist] stood in front of the woman [Israel] who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.” Revelations 12:4

The Mahdi will kill anyone who opposes Islam. He will kill the Jews and the Christians.

 

“Muslims take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their numbers. Allah does not guide wrongdoing.” Surah 5.51

“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush for them.” Surah 9.73

The Antichrist will attack and conquer Jerusalem.

 

“For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken…” Zachariah 14:2

The Mahdi will conquer Jerusalem.

 

“Jerusalem will be the location of the rightly guided caliphate and the center of Islamic rule, which will be headed by Imam al-Mahdi.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6985)

The Antichrist performs many signs, wonders, and miracles.

 

“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,” 2 Thess. 2:9

“And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast…” Rev. 12:13-14

The Mahdi performs many signs, wonders, and miracles.

 

“In the last days of my Ummah [universal Islamic community], the Mahdi will appear.  Allah will give him power over the wind and the rain and the earth will bring forth its foliage.  He will give away wealth profusely, flocks will be in abundance, and the Ummah will be large and honored…” (Sahih Hakim Mustadrak, related by Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (4:557 and 558), as quoted by Kabbani p. 233)

The Antichrist will make people receive a mark on the hand or forehead to pledge allegiance to him.

 

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:” “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Rev. 13:16-17 

Followers of the Mahdi usually mark themselves with headbands on the foreheads.

 

Muslims receive ‘bismillah’ (in the name of allah), unbelievers receive ‘bismilkafir’ (in the name of unbelievers)

 

With evidence like this, I’m forced to ponder the possibility that the coming Christian Antichrist is the Muslims ‘savior’ (Mahdi)!

In the video below I skim through the very core of Islamic end time prophecies using one of their own prophecy books and how it’s linked to Christianity. Additionally I discuss how Satan is using the Islamic religion to bring about the Biblical Antichrist, also known as the Muslim Mahdi and the possibility of the mark of the beast being ‘Allah’s mark’ which I found linked in the Hadith and Qur’an. I believe you will be not only surprised at the finding but shocked by them.

 

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http://shoebat.com/2015/12/27/90032/

http://lisahavennews.net/2014/09/01/tribulation-may-come-sooner-then-you-think-as-isis-divides-the-muslim-world-into-10-regions-and-turkey-prime-minster-erdogan-rises-as-an-antichrist-candidate/

http://lisahavennews.net/2015/05/01/tribulation-knocking-president-erdogan-to-cut-covenant-with-israel-will-this-be-the-spark-that-ushers-in-the-7-year-tribulation/

http://lisahavennews.net/2015/04/02/islamists-declare-mahdi-returns-2015-antichrist-candidate-proclaims-himself-god-psalm-83-war-and-you-wont-believe-what-else-prophecy-unfolding-and-its-frightening/

 



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    • King of Shambhala

      Nice try Lisa but that’s NO.
      You already made a video saying Obama’s the Antichrist.
      Hurry to spread the news because I’m the Messiah and only by spreading this news will anyone be saved in heaven.

      • Lisa Haven

        Nope, I’ve never made a video saying Obama is the Antichrist.

        • King of Shambhala

          Lisa, the lottery in Obama’s homestate drew 666 the day after Obama’s election.
          So what isn’t there to say he’s the Antichrist.
          Heaven sent that message to Mark Obama as the Antichrist.

          • Sean

            Judgement Against Jerusalem Already Happened in the Old Testament

            Ezekiel 5

            1″As for you, son of man, take a sharp sword; take and use it as a barber’s razor on your head and beard. Then take scales for weighing and divide the hair.

            2″One third you shall burn in the fire at the center of the city, when the days of the siege are completed. Then you shall take one third and strike it with the sword all around the city, and one third you shall scatter to the wind; and I will unsheathe a sword behind them.

            3″Take also a few in number from them and bind them in the edges of your robes.

            4″Take again some of them and throw them into the fire and burn them in the fire; from it a fire will spread to all the house of Israel.

            5″Thus says the Lord GOD, ‘This is JERUSALEM; I have set her at the Center of the Nations, with Lands Around Her.

            6′But she has rebelled against My ordinances more wickedly than the nations and against My statutes more than the lands which surround her; for they have rejected My ordinances and have not walked in My statutes.’

            7″Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Because you have more turmoil than the nations which Surround You and have not walked in My statutes, nor observed My ordinances, nor observed the ordinances of the nations which surround you,’

            8”therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Behold, I, even I, am against you, and I will execute judgments among you in the sight of the nations.

            9′And because of all your Abominations, I will do among you what I have not done, and the like of which I will never do again.

            10Therefore, fathers will eat their sons among you, and sons will eat their fathers; for I will execute judgments on you and scatter all your remnant to every wind.

            11′So as I live,’ declares the Lord GOD, ‘surely, because you have defiled My Sanctuary with all your detestable idols and with all your Abominations, therefore I will also withdraw, and My eye will have No Pity and I will not spare.

            12′One third of you will die by plague or be consumed by famine among you, one third will fall by the sword around you, and one third I will scatter to every wind, and I will unsheathe a sword behind them.

            13′Thus My anger will be spent and I will satisfy My wrath on them, and I will be appeased; then they will know that I, the LORD, have spoken in My zeal when I have spent My wrath upon them.

            14′Moreover, I will make you a desolation and a reproach among the Nations which Surround You, in the sight of all who pass by.

            15′So it will be a reproach, a reviling, a warning and an object of horror to the nations who surround you when I execute judgments against you in anger, wrath and raging rebukes. I, the LORD, have spoken.

            16′When I send against them the deadly arrows of famine which were for the destruction of those whom I will send to destroy you, then I will also intensify the famine upon you and break the staff of bread.

            17′Moreover, I will send on you famine and wild beasts, and they will bereave you of children; plague and bloodshed also will pass through you, and I will bring the sword on you. I, the LORD, have spoken.’”

            REVELATION 1

            7′ BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and Every Eye will See Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

            REVELATION 21

            1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer [any] sea.

            2And I saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, Coming Down Out of Heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

            :lol: GETTING CLOSE TO REVELATIONS 1 – VERY CLOSE – I WOULD THINK :lol:

            • G.M.

              Gleason’s new standard map of the world : on the projection of J. S. Christopher, Modern College, Blackheath, England ;

              Scientifically and Practically Correct ; As “It Is.”
              Date: 1892

              OH MY, IS THAT ANTARCTICA PLACED IN THE CENTER WITH LANDS AND NATIONS ALL AROUND HER :lol:

              https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z

              The flow which was discovered in 1911 by Australian geologist Griffith Taylor who was exploring the valley and named the glacier which Started to ”Bleed” – BLOOD FALLS :lol:

        • King of Shambhala

          The odds for a lottery #666 to show up on the day after Obama’s election in his hometown are impossible.
          It’s a clear heavenly miracle: period!
          Those who see it will be saved in heaven.

          • King of Shambhala

            The end times are here.
            Trump’s bringing Antichrist Obama to be revealed.
            Obama’s in Hawaii but Trump’s ramping up against the Democrats and Obama every day now.

        • King of Shambhala

          Obama’s coming to pieces. Trump’s tearing him apart now, getting at Hillary through Bill Clinton’s sex-scandals. Antichrist Obama’s on his knees and down.

          • SuperMario

            The Antichrist is getting torn up by Trump just as predicted in the Bible! Trump has come to save us all and best of all no more fear porn! Thank you Trump!

            • King of Shambhala

              Beware of paid Obama shills like SuperMario, they’re driven by their hateful racist antiblack agenda and they use Obama for their race-baiting agenda.
              I’m the Messiah and Obama’s the Antichrist; Trump’s the Witness of the Bible who’s predicted to defeat that Antichrist aka Obama.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              King,

              Why don’t you go over to this board:

              /religion/2015/12/nde-and-the-golden-key-to-truth-and-the-eternal-mystery-finding-your-higher-mind-as-you-awaken-2500646.html

              …and talk some sense into this AlephBet guy. He says he’s a Buddhist too.

            • Crow (hex)

              Yes KOS, you are the one, you are many, you are LEGEND!

            • Bill Lyle

              Yeah. He’s a legend, alright. His name is spoken in hushed tones, in Petting Zoos, and abnormal psych. symposiums, the world over. :lol: :lol: :lol:

            • King of Shambhala

              “cobra
              Yes KOS, you are the one, you are many, you are LEGEND!”

              Hi Cobra,
              Yes, I’m the Messiah and Obama’s the Antichrist.
              Spread that news worldwide everywhere and you’ll be saved in heaven.
              Ignore the trolls and homos like Bill Lyle, he’s been stalking me for a long time now.

            • Crow (hex)

              Nobody gets my humour on this site LEGEND = character in bible!

            • Crow (hex)

              Sorry it was me that made a big mistake there. I meant to say LEGION! :cry: :cry:

          • The Clucker

            I knew what you meant Cobra, and I get your humor. Apparently the King of Shame does not get your humor though.

            • Crow (hex)

              Happy new year the Clucker- you must be American the way you spelled humour. Is Richard called Garen now?

            • The Clucker

              Thanks you too. I am American. More specifically a South Dakotan, or as I say a So-Dakian.

              …and yes, he is. Interesting fellow, that Viking.

            • Crow (hex)

              :cool: wow. The Black Hills, Deadwood, Badlands, Mount Rushmore, Sioux Falls, The Missouri River with it’s prehistoric paddlefish, bald eagles. Not far from Yellowstone- yikes! Very interesting place!

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Al Swedjin. Wild Bill. Tub-o-guts Mose Manuel. Bullock-n-Starr hardware. Trixie the whore…

              How much fun can you pack into a few square miles?

            • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

              no Richard, is still very much Richard, different names, pictures, for basically the same thing. anyway, “richard” is my youngest brothers pseudonym, he’d be like in the club, and they’d be like “oo whats your name” and he’s like “Richard” its just a synonym for “troll” Norwegian, Pure blood, Down Horn wearing, whole country scarin, idol choppin, lewis stone killin, lil kid rescuin, hippy molester. “Richard” and im here practisin mah “people” skills. Garen, also has his storys, thats my favorite character on league of legends, a game i play, it is made for hyperactive korean children, anyway. Garen, comes from a interesting place, with interesting ideals. “Demacia” is a wonderful place, that does not exist yet. it is a sarcastic ideal.

              UM HELLO

              i quote:

              ” the resolve of Demacia’s military is alternately celebrated or despised, but always respected. Their ”zero tolerance” moral code is strictly upheld by civilians and soldiers alike. In combat, this means Demacian troops may not make excuses, flee, or surrender under any circumstance. These principles are espoused to their forces by unrivaled demagogues who lead by example.”

              that brings tears to mah eyes

            • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

              check mah stats yo, nearly 40 years old and im smokin them internet nerds. HA

              http://www.lolstarz.com/summoner?name=Protokos+Nekros&lo=euw

              been hitting the heimerdinger hard lately.

              anyway, bored of BIN now, and i did what i must do, seeds planted, you fellers would spot me no matter WHAT i dressed up as, so yay. that part sorted. now, um, meh, now we wait. for how long?

              what? who cares, im nearly level 30 and then i can play ranked, i still have not got a penta-kill yet. i dont even know if garen is my favorite, he has no beard, so its like, meh, i do however identify with cho-gath

            • The Clucker

              Way to be Garen. Do you play DDO? I think it’s free.

            • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

              WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT i did not even KNOW about D&D online!@ WTFFFFFFFFFFF, you talkin to someone who has “icewind dale” on his flash pc, and still plays it, yeaaaah, omw THANK YOU CLUCKER FOR MAH NEW GAME, you get a free sword later. my swords rock, you cans cut a whole cow in half one shot, its called the “carcass test” ill make a vid later when im allowed to “interact”, till then, WOOOOOHOOOO NEW GAME! HAHAHAAA danke bitte, someone is BOOOOORED

        • Louis

          Lisa, you claim to be a Christian when in fact you’re nothing but an anti-Catholic antichrist bigot hence a false prophet, liar and a minion of the devil who is likewise a liar. Like a wolf in sheep’s clothing, you pretend to be a Christian but in actuality you’re an enemy of genuine Catholic Christianity which was established by Christ.

          You also suggest Antichrist may be Satan incarnate when in fact Satan is incapable of taking on a form of flesh and blood. Neither can Satan mate with a human female and sire human children. Satan-worshipers attribute more power to Satan than he actually has. That’s what you do, Lisa.

          Antichrist will be someone willingly possessed by the spirit of Satan but will not be Satan himself. You also are someone willingly possessed by Satan, but you’re not Satan himself. You’re just one of his minor minions blathering corrupt nonsense not worth listening to.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            “Satan is incapable of taking on a form of flesh and blood…”

            Luke 22:3

            Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve.

            “Neither can Satan mate with a human female and sire human children.”

            Says who? Aquinas? Quote Scripture or take your place amongst the idolaters, Louis.

            “Satan-worshipers attribute more power to Satan than he actually has.”

            2 Corinthians 4:4

            In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

            The god of this world, Louis. How powerful is that?

            “Antichrist will be someone willingly possessed by the spirit of Satan but will not be Satan himself.”

            Semantics. Is Jesus God? Of course He is. What is Satan? Satan is a counterfeiter. The anti-Christ will be Satan’s version of Jesus. If it is appropriate to say that Jesus is God, which it is, then it will be likewise appropriate to say that Satan IS the anti-Christ, even if Satan is but the driver of a physical vehicle.

            Consistence is your friend, Louis. I know, you can’t be consistent AND be a Catholic. You should really think about that.

            • Louis

              BEEF SUPREME — your diseased pseudo-intellectual advice isn’t worth two cents. Crawl back into your cesspool of bigotry with the rest of the germs. You have nothing to offer except fundamentalist mind-rot. You may think you have something to say, but you don’t.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Happy New Year, Louis.

              Let me know when you accumulate enough moxie to actually answer one or two of my objections.

              (Maybe by the end of next year you’ll have an answer for at least one of them. Better get to studying now.)

            • Louis

              BEEF SUPREME — let me repeat myself — you have nothing to say — thus far in every one of your posts, you’ve never made even a single point — nothingness is impossible to answer — dismissing diseased bigots like you has nothing to do with “moxie” — it has to do with common sense. You’re not “supreme.” You’re too inferior to bother with. That’s not my fault. It’s yours.

              For what it’s worth, Happy New Year back to you — although I doubt that a hate-filled bigot like you is capable of happiness.

            • Ambicatus

              look how you upset this filthy catholic! i was going to throw a phat curse, but then, this louis thing is cursed already, so i would be mooting the point, i could i thnk, post the 9 aspects of rome,

              Rome as the AntiChrist

              AntiChrist, also Anti-Christ, is a title first formed at the same time as the founding of Christianity in 314 CE to exclusively describe the burnt and demolished city of Rome and the defunct Roman Empire. Thus, Rome was, is and has always been the AntiChrist as the personification of everything opposite to the philosophy, principles and values of Christianity.

              The word AntiChrist comes from the Ancient Greek αντίχριστος (antíkhristos) literally meaning “one that is opposite to Christ”. In the first Epistle (epistole) of Christianity pronounced at Antioch (Constantinople) called Epistole Apokalypsis meaning “message from Heaven” and later known as The Apocalypse, the reason the AntiChrist (Rome and Roman Empire) was, is and has always been the only true AntiChrist may be defined as nine (9) aspects being: Tyranny, Injustice, Corruption, Deception, Malevolence, Falsity, Blasphemy, Apostacy and Insanity:

              (i) The Tyranny of the AntiChrist (Rome) was and is the historic fact that Rome and its leaders and agents steadfastly refused to honor the Golden Rule of Law that “all are equal under the same set of laws” and instead promoted a fascist model of dictatorship whereby “the law is whatever we say it is” and could be changed, manipulated, hidden and corrupted to suit the objective; and

              (ii) The Injustice of the AntiChrist (Rome) was and is the historic fact that Rome did promote and encourage the notion of slavery and the seizure, abrogation and blatant theft of rights for profit and power, through the use of military power, covert power and assassinations and constant war known as “Armageddon”. Thus, the only right honored by the AntiChrist (Rome) and its agents has been the perverse notion that “might is right”; and

              (iii) The Corruption of the AntiChrist (Rome) was and is the historic fact that Rome did not, nor ever has followed its own rules or procedures, but used such procedures to “trick” others into a predictable pattern of rules, while every manner of corruption has then been used to defeat such an opponent. Thus, the courts and tribunals of the AntiChrist (Rome) and its loyal allies were, are and have always been the most corrupt in usurping their own claims “laws” and “procedures”; and

              (iv) The Deception of the AntiChrist (Rome) was and is the historic fact that Rome and its nobles proclaimed to honor the rule of law, justice and due process as well as be moral members of society when in fact they were the complete opposite through rampant drug consumption, child molestation, sexual orgies, corruption and murder and utter madness. Thus, the AntiChrist was and is and has always been the ultimate deceiver and impostor to the planet Earth using the argument “whoever be deceived, let them be deceived” as justification for their actions; and

              (v) The Malevolance of the AntiChrist (Rome) was the historic fact that Rome and its allies have been obsessed in blood sports, cruelty, torture and sacrifice in complete opposition to the values of all civilized societies and enlightened minds. Instead, the pseudo-intellectuals in support of the AntiChrist (Rome) invented absurd and contradictory notions that such malevolence was an instrinsic part of the cosmological order, in defiance against thousands of years of illumination; and

              (vi) The Falsity of the AntiChrist (Rome) was the historic fact that Rome was the single largest producer of fraudulent and false documents in history, with literally hundreds of thousands of works, artifacts and monuments being blatantly fictional creations in support of deliberately false, deceptive and misleading accounts of history and events. Thus there is virtually nothing that can be trusted that is spoken, written or published by the AntiChrist and its agents as being true; and

              (vii) The Blasphemy of the AntiChrist (Rome) was the historic fact that Rome and its adherents have always been necromancers and sorcerers obsessed in death, the control over bones and flesh of the dead, the controlling of the spirits of the dead through spells and curses in complete opposition to the principles of Christianity that demanded bodies be cremated and forbid the collecting of bones or uttering of curses or spells; and

              (viii) The Apostacy of the AntiChrist (Rome) was the historic fact that Rome was and has always been its own worst heretic, by refusing to follow its own false histories, false rituals and false scripture and instead repeatedly “re-made” itself every few generations. Thus, the AntiChrist is not only the worst blasphemer and heretic to Christianity but the worst apostate to its own false beliefs and faith making it and its followers the most willfully ignorant (evil) of all; and

              (ix) The Insanity of the AntiChrist (Rome) was the historic fact that Rome has by tradition always been the epicenter of mental illness due to the combination of pathological falsities, absurd philosophies and complete disconnect from nature, true history, consciousness and civilized behaviour. Thus the prevalence of utter insanity, stupidity and idiocy amongst political, military and religious leaders is at once a product of the AntiChrist and its allies and a defense mechanism for the AntiChrist – given if the whole species is insane and disconnected, so that no-one can objectively see such dire mental illness and incompetence.

              and aspect 9, is again strong in this catholic. blegh, and bless you Beef for being so courteous to so detestable a person

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Yeah, old Louie is quite the character, Richard. But he’s not even up to the level of inspiring anger in an opponent, so he garners little attention and even less effort from actual Wayfarers.

              Louis doesn’t deserve our curses. His unenviable predicament is not entirely his fault. Many of us are intelligent enough to make a fair assessment of our own intellect, which is to see it as feeble and scarcely sufficient to the task at hand — that of seeking.

              Louis is almost that intelligent, but not quite; thus rendering him incapable of accurate self-analysis. He’s smart enough to think he’s brilliant, but not smart enough to realize he’s not.

          • Sean

            Christian, You really think This Demon Liar Haven is a Christian :lol: Look Close At Its Black Eyes :evil:

          • finaltestament

            Ha hah Lisa what utter trash, its the devils work and idle hands. she must be being paid by the zionists, what a waste of time and effort ! so she and the co nazty links were paid by our 2 billions tax dollars to churn out such nazty effort, ie israel.

            Real christians are not like this, and neither are real jews.
            Here are Lisas network funders, she probably didnt even write it, it was done for her by psyops
            https://islamophobianetwork.com/

        • Bonzo

          Good article, Lisa. Very important info.
          What is the plan of ISIL?

          http://wp.me/p3tGFm-eu

          Feel free to copy and improve as you like.

        • Lucifer Morningstar

          Nah, that ain’t me. :evil:

        • Crow (hex)

          Sorry Lisa for ignoring your article until now. My bible KJV only goes upto revelations 4.11. But you mentioned 4.20. You do know that you’re not allowed to add to it or you will suffer the consequences! :twisted:

          • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

            its so bad, a few articles ago, verse posted, but when you go check in Book, TOTALLY DIFFERENT!! omw, im convinced she is one of these:

            2Ti 3:1 But know this, that in the last days hard times shall come.
            2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, thankless, wrong-doers,
            2Ti 3:3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, haters of good,
            2Ti 3:4 betrayers, reckless, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Elohim,
            2Ti 3:5 having a form of reverence1 but denying its power. And turn away from these! Footnote: 1See v. 13, Isa. 24:5-6, Mt. 24:12, Rom. 1:30-31, 2 Thess. 2:3-11.
            2Ti 3:6 For among them are those who creep into households and captivate silly women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts,
            2Ti 3:7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

        • Veriton

          Actually, Obama is the Antichrist (the fake one), and the fake Christ / real Antichrist is Putin. He will be unveiled as the Jewish Messiah later this year: http://redefininggod.com/2015/12/globalist-prophecy-watch-update-3-is-vladimir-putin-the-jewish-messiah/

      • thebobchannel

        You might want to check out O.C.D. There are therapies and treatments that can help. You may find yourself a happier person if you could have more than this one fixated thought-stream dominating your mind.

      • Pyro

        Obama is NOT the Antichrist!!

        The Antichrist name is in Revelation 9v11. The Angel From the Bottomless Pit!!

        But before satan possesses him, he will come from Assyria. He will get shot first, then he will Rise again. :roll:

        • King of Shambhala

          “Pyro
          Obama is NOT the Antichrist!!

          The Antichrist name is in Revelation 9v11. The Angel From the Bottomless Pit!!

          But before satan possesses him, he will come from Assyria. He will get shot first, then he will Rise again. :roll:

          Obama’s the Antichrist. The Antichrist is the Man from Nowhere. No one knows where Obama comes from be that anywhere in the world. Obama fits all the Bible’s description of the Antichrist.
          And there’s only one other possibility in this too: I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ Second Coming.
          Why?
          It’s because I’m alone in the whole wide world (even if you check in China), who is relying upon the heavenly miracle that occurred when the lottery in Obama’s hometown drew the Number of the Antichrist 666, on the day after Obama’s election (so as to spread this news and reveal that Obama is beyond any possible doubt THE ANTICHRIST).

    • edwar

      You Ms Heaven are bocomming a very dangerous low frequency NWO weapon.

      Also sexy.

      Anyway I love you and hope you´re real.

      • Buznitz

        edwar, you are another illiterate American. One of the many.

      • sitrep

        OMG, another DimWit.

    • officer420

      I don’t think you could get 2.5 bil muslims to agree on anything

      • Buznitz

        officer420

        TRUE! At present, but under the power of their Mahdi they will unite into a most powerful force.

    • Betty Liberty

      Promenade leader? Can he do the do-se-do?

    • Godjesusallah

      Do u really believe the r :roll: ubbish written in the bible, quran has prophecies that will come true. If so then why does anyone claiming to have spoken to “God” in recent times get branded as deranged. Religion is the biggest con on earth, for how long and how many will die in the name of god before people realise there is no heaven, there is no hell, get over it.
      :idea:

    • Jan Beute

      I have the notion that the antichrist will be a Palestinian, who will sign an accord with Israel. I don’t think Turkey is a threat to Israel.

      • The Real Deal

        Palestinians are locked in an outdoor concentration camp run by Jews. You should stop watching that Faux news, CNN propaganda… It’s rotting what’s left of that noodle on top of your shoulders.
        Jews run the media. Their biggest enemy are real SEMITES, the Arab Muslims. Their media has to make you believe they are some kind of threat so that you will go along with their plan to wipe out the Muslim population, by having you send your children over to the middle east to fight Israel’s enemy for them. Wake up, man.

        • Damien

          Couldn’t we possibly help the Pope and Chomsky deport them to Europe Baby GayTheist?

      • sitrep

        “I don’t think Turkey is a threat to Israel.”
        What a laugh. Educate yourself, Think, you can do it. Pretend you are that little Chick breaking through its shell.
        Break out of that Bubble, You can do it.

        See who is the threat with long list of false flags:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

    • ashleyrobinson

      Actually, Jesus is the Islamic Messiah. There is only one Messiah in Islam.

      Isa Ibn Maryam (Arabic: عيسى بن مريم‎, translit. ʿĪsā ibn Maryām; English: Jesus, son of Mary), or Jesus in the New Testament, is considered to be a Messenger of God and al-Masih (the Messiah) in Islam[1][2]:30 who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā’īl) with a new scripture, al-Injīl (the Gospel).[3] The belief that Jesus is a prophet is required in Islam. This is reflected in the fact that he is clearly a significant figure in the Quran, appearing in 93 ayaat (or verses) with various titles attached, with Moses appearing 136 times and Abraham 69 times.[4] The Quran states that Jesus was born a ‘pure boy’ to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God the Creator (Arabic: Allah) which follows the belief of the prophetic message in the Old Testament passage Isaiah 7:14 and referenced in the New Testament passages Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 1:26-38. To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing various ailments like blindness, raising the dead to life, casting out demons, etc.) which no other prophet in Islam has ever been credited with, all according to God’s will.

      Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ (“the Messiah”).

      Jesus is unique for being the only prophet in Islam who neither married nor had any children.[6] Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal (“the false messiah”, also known as the Antichrist).[7][8]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran…”

        No doubt. But numerous titles were given to Him first, in the Old Testament:

        Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

        Islam declares that fully HALF of these titles, from a single verse (Isaiah 9:6) are false. Thus, Islam denies the Old and New Testament Scriptures.

        • ashleyrobinson

          The fact remains that Jesus is the Messiah in Islam.

          This article is lying about the Mahdi being the Antichrist. The Antichrist in Islam is the Dajjal. The Mahdi will be fighting alongside Jesus in the final battle against the Antichrist, the Dajjal.

          Yes, Islam does not recognize Jesus as a God. Neither did Jesus. NOWHERE in the Bible does Jesus claim to be God.

          Jesus is not the all knowing, all powerful creator. Even Jesus denies being the all knowing, all powerful creator.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            You wrote:

            NOWHERE in the Bible does Jesus claim to be God.

            Really? Have you read the Bible?

            Here is GOD speaking:

            Isaiah 44:6

            Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST; besides Me there is no god.

            Here is Jesus speaking:

            Revelation 22:13

            I am the Alpha and the Omega, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, the beginning and the end.

            Sound familiar? It should. They are the same.

            Here is Messiah addressing the Pharisees, who take up stones to kill Him immediately after He said this:

            John 8:58

            Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.

            That is Jesus identifying Himself as GOD. Twice.

            You wrote:

            “Even Jesus denies being the all knowing, all powerful creator.”

            Show me.

            • Damien

              Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.

              =====

              Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was God.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              That makes sense, Damian? In light of the question from the Pharisees that He was answering when He said those words?

              Re-check your math, sister.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              ( I keep spelling DamiEN wrong. I know. I shall do better. DamiAN is not an anagram of MAIDEN.)

            • Damien

              BEEF SUPREME

              I have no idea. My posts are either things I have heard and am passing on or (most of them) speculation not spelt out as speculation (cause I’m lazy).

              It’s possibly deliberately open to interpretation as either or both.

            • Crow (hex)

              Is Damien- Medina a Maiden? Who’d have thought! And I believed she was a gentle muslim last week ( Medina) and then a vile Satanist after our little debate (Damien). And can anyone understand what she says? She talks nonsensical to me!

            • Scanner Darko

              “And can anyone understand what she says? She talks nonsensical to me!”

              Stand in line, brotha. The whole lot of us have been trying to make sense of what she says for as long as I can remember.

            • Crow (hex)

              Happy Hogmanay! Scanner and to anyone else reading this.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              What’s Hog-man Day?

              Is it a drinking holiday? Is it a pork-eating contest? Is it an Island of Doctor Moreau thing?

              A Happy Hogman to you too, son of Albion!!!

            • Mayhem

              It’s a long line of perplexity and i do cryptic but Damien often leaves me scratching my head too.

          • The Clucker

            Hogmanay…

            had to look that one up. Are you from Scotland, Cobra?

            • Crow (hex)

              Celtic. My grandparents were from Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The rest of us are from Manchester, but we all live on the South Coast now, not
              far from Stonehenge. That’s why I’m British!

            • Crow (hex)

              Or as Richard would say the Albion. And the Irish lot had a castle at one point, and there’s a spanish connection to the Irish lot many centuries ago. And the Scotish ancestors were from the Shetland Islands.

            • Crow (hex)

              But I lived in Scotland for a few years, and they probably do the New Year Hogmanay celebrations better than anywhere else! – especially compared to the rest of Britain. They’ve claimed it to certain degree.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              …and may your FIRST-FOOT be a fair and buxom maiden with a pint in each hand!!!

              (I had to look up Hogmanay also. The things we learn in the BINs. Cheers, Cobra.)

            • Mayhem

              Jings a-wisnae twally, Ser, anno wit you meant. Anno aboot a’thing.

              Happy Hogmanay!

            • Crow (hex)

              Cheers Beef! Have a good New Year over in ? You’ve really wiped the floor with your opponents today, so well done! I do have a few questions with respect to the OT eg sins passing down 4 generations, the flood etc, but we can leave them to the new year.
              I notice that Damien is soft and pliable in your company; she was vile and satanic towards myself the other day. Talking about nailing me alive upside down to a tree for example. But I’m starting to work her out! She seems to think I worship some character in a Robert Graves work of fiction instead of Jesus the Divine Son of God.
              Anyway, I’ve got a good response to her attack, but I’ll have to redact a lot of it to save her blushes! Mayhem knows the score!

    • Antique White

      anti-christ has many markers! one is he makes a peace covenant with Israel for 7 years at the mid point anti-christ violates this contract! its called conformation of the covenant and this is not rocket science folks or some great mystery?

      Daniel 9:27, “Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.

      i think the anti-christ is islumic and it could be this turkey?

    • Ruben Mendoza

      Don’t get confused in one point when you write:

      ‘One prophecy in particular states that the Antichrist—an evil dictator believed to be Satan incarnate—rises to rule the world and gets Israel to sign a 7 year “peace” treaty:

      “He [the Antichrist] will make a treaty with the people [Israel] for a period of one set of seven [7 years], but after half this time [3.5 years] he will put an end to sacrifices and offerings…” (Daniel 9:27)’

      Bible doesn’t have nothing to do with the state of Israel as “the chosen people”. Zionists are of the sinagoge of satan.

    • Anonymous

      @ Lisa Haven
      who pays you

      • Bill Lyle

        Jack and Rexella Van Impe.

      • King of Shambhala

        Bil Lyle’s an Obama paid shill.
        He works for the Antichrist Obama.
        Join us who like Jack and Rexella Van Impe agree Obama’s the Antichrist

        • Bill Lyle

          You stalking me, Krapachakra? I’m not your type. I walk on two legs. Put it back in your pants, rump chisel.

          • King of Shambhala

            “Bill Lyle
            You stalking me, Krapachakra? I’m not your type. I walk on two legs. Put it back in your pants, rump chisel.”

            You homos spread HIV/AIDS as you’re responsible for 95% of HIV.
            I don’t say it, Obama does.
            Indeed, Obama’s own gov disease control website “CDC” says that.

            • Bill Lyle

              And you rape poor, defenseless donkeys. What’s your point?

    • Travis Trapani

      I think the whole story of an anarchist is bull. It is just more mumbo jumbo to control our already feeble minds…

      • Mayhem

        Anarchist?

        You might be thinking of a different book.

        • Bill Lyle

          Nah, read Clockwork Angels by Neil Peart. The album’s (by Rush) amazing, too.

      • King of Shambhala

        “I think the whole story of an anarchist is bull. It is just more mumbo jumbo to control our already feeble minds…”

        The Antichrist or whatever name he’s given such as the Demon-King Krinmati in the Buddhist Apocalypse (of the Kalachakra prophecy/teaching) exists.

        Evil exists in the world and it comes from evil people who harm others.

        • Big dog.../small fish...

          I’m having a ball this morning reading all those nuttsy comments…

      • Crow (hex)

        Feeble minded. Why speak of yourself like that!

    • truthseeker4809

      The proof that the Bible is a book of lies.
      The bible doesn’t say humans have eternal souls. It says your life ends when you die. You either go to heaven or hell. In what form? The book doesn’t say.
      Look up the internet for the stories of 3-8 year children talking about their previous lives.
      There are thousands of stories like that very credible ones.
      There is no antichrist. No YHWH no nothing. You and your soul.

      • SuperMario

        I see the religious really like to downvote your comment but you are on to something. However, there is a “something.”

    • truthseeker4809

      The proof that the Bible is a book of lies.
      The bible doesn’t say humans have eternal souls. It says your life ends when you die. You either go to heaven or hell. In what form? The book doesn’t say.
      Look up the internet for the stories of 3-8 year children talking about their previous lives.
      There are thousands of stories like that very credible ones.
      There is no antichrist. No YHWH no nothing. Only you and your soul.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “You either go to heaven or hell.”

        The Bible says that? Where, exactly?

        “In what form? The book doesn’t say.”

        How would you know? How many times have you read the Book?

        “Look up the internet for the stories of 3-8 year children talking about their previous lives.”

        Compelling? Look up stories of 3-8 year old children talking about being Big Bird and Snuffleupagus. Because 3-8 year olds tell the truth, ALWAYS about EVERYTHING. Right? Not so compelling.

        “There are thousands of stories like that very credible ones.”

        Heard some credible stories about Santa Claus in my day, so I did. Incidentally, why should 3-8 year olds tell the truth about anything, when tradition mandates that we lie to them about (amongst other things) a flying fat man?

        “There is no antichrist. No YHWH no nothing. Only you and your soul.”

        Only you and your soul. Well then. The soul just popped into existence, kind of like we did here on Earth? Just given enough time, these things happen on their own? Hands and eyes and language and brains all just coagulate spontaneously in the cosmic ooze? Math and physics, music and harmonics all just happened uncontrived and extemporaneously? No Creator? No Master of all things? Just, what, exactly? Whence cometh all these?

        Not too sure about your theology there, 4809. Or your logical consistency, for that matter.

        • truthseeker4809

          Look around and seek yourself. Google “reincarnation stories by 3-8 years old children”
          Stories from the children barely started talking. Verified by their baffled parents by tracking the origin of the story that their children would have never known.

          Ignorance is so much a bliss.

          Somebody may tell you the truth if you are lucky but you have to find it by yourself.

          Bible is a gigantic pile of crap. Sorry for those who keeps repeating those fake stories like parrots.

        • truthseeker4809

          According to the story of the Alien, human biological forms existed in the universe for billions of years. Why do you need a master? You are the master of your own body and self. Soul reincarnates from one body to another until the soul reaches the ultimate enlightenment in such a way that it doesn’t want or need to be reincarnated. Sounds eerily similar to Buddhists’ doctrine.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            4809 wrote:

            “Somebody may tell you the truth if you are lucky but you have to find it by yourself.”

            Know this, 4809:

            If anyone ever hands you Truth, they were either preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ or they were lying to you. We don’t get handed much truth in this world. We go in search of it or we buy the lie.

            “Bible is a gigantic pile of crap.”

            I’ll ask you again; how many times have you read it? Are you even qualified to make that judgment? Have you earned the right to critique the Book? I doubt it very much. Perhaps you read a verse, or even a chapter or two when you were younger. But now, you feel qualified to discredit a two-thousand page volume, the contents of which are utterly foreign to you. That’s the pile of crap, 4809.

            “According to the story of the Alien…”

            Very credible thought process you operate. (No, not really.) You buy into a fantastic account written by a human being, but you discount the work of dozens of inspired authors, writing over 1500 years – whose writings, incidentally, fit together perfectly with all the other writings contained in the Volume, without even one single contradiction. Does your doctrine of the Alien boast such perfection?

            “…human biological forms existed in the universe for billions of years.”

            But mine is the faith of outlandish ‘crappyness’?

            “Why do you need a master?”

            Because we were created by One.

            “You are the master of your own body and self.”

            A man who has himself for a master, is the servant of a fool.

            “Soul reincarnates from one body to another until the soul reaches the ultimate enlightenment…”

            Tell it to the Hindus. Or the Buddhists.

            “Sounds eerily similar to Buddhists’ doctrine.”

            Not eerily similar at all. Identical. Most science fiction fans and aficionados have a warm gooey spot in their hearts (not to mention their brains) for Buddhist thought. There are reasons for that. Why don’t you explore them?

            • truthseeker4809

              If you can’t tell the right from wrong, then you deserve a master and that makes you a slave. Not me, I can tell the right from wrong. You fool.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Right from wrong? Sorry, 4809. You’re borrowing from the Biblical perspective when you say things like ‘right’ and ‘wrong.’ Without a Sovereign God – creator of all things, over everything – we have neither comprehension nor understanding of right and wrong.

              You can tell right from wrong? How? What makes it possible for you to even know whether there be such things as right and wrong? Do morality and virtue exist in a world completely devoid of a moral and virtuous Creator? Do morality and virtue spontaneously erupt into being just like feet and hands and hair and teeth have spontaneously evolved from slime, according to the secularists? An atheist who believes in morality is an inconsistent atheist. An atheist consistent in his beliefs would behave like Hannibal Lecter.

              Apart from your Creator 4809, you can’t even tell me whether right or wrong exist.

              Try it if you don’t believe me.

          • Damien

            truthseeker4809

            Why do you need a master? You are the master of your own body and self. Soul reincarnates from one body to another until the soul reaches the ultimate enlightenment in such a way that it doesn’t want or need to be reincarnated.

            ==================

            I think that is why white and black people (and ONLY white and black people) in Murica and in the parts of the world subject to Murcas influence have to melt into each other in the melting pot. To destroy and expunge the crappiness of their physical existence with a neckbeards spectral dream being who one day will be incarnated as Lesbo WASP Zionist Brahmin. It is indeed also what Hindus who aren’t Brahmins yet are expected to undergo if they don’t want to be treated as criminals.

        • Salty

          Beef

          Why would God, who claims to love humans, deliberately deceive them and prepare a place for them to be destroyed forever because of this deception that He instigated? How does it make sense that I’m trying to find the truth, but God has deliberately prevented me from finding it?

          Why would God create evil (Isaiah 45:7) and set it upon us, knowing full well that even those of us who claim to love him will be ultimately destroyed as well? How do we reconcile calling him a “loving” God, when he has deliberately orchestrated the deaths of many innocent people, ultimately using the Devil as his attack dog? (Job 1:12)

          How can I love a God who doesn’t care that I exist? No wait; why should I love a God who doesn’t care that I exist? I know that I can’t determine who is going to make it or not. However, I would be willing to wager that I’m not one of those chosen to replenish the new earth – especially given that this all knowing God has already drafted his list.

          When you consider the magnificent grandeur of the universe, it is hard to imagine that anything out there is actually on our side. Our very existence is based on borrowed time. When we’re not busy killing each other over mythology, we have to remember that all our lives on this planet can be instantly voided by any number of giant metal rocks in space.

          That we’re still alive to even have these thoughts is a miracle in and of itself. Perhaps that’s why we think of our continued existence as being awarded by some being. We’re no different from the Native American Indians who look up into the sky and call this unseen force “the great spirit”. We personify everything we do not yet understand.

          What really shocked me as I thought about this delusion, is that the gods of our religion are no different from the gods of ancient Greece. Our God gets jealous, experiences regret, has a temper and actually loves and hates in much the same way humans do. Zeus and his entire pantheon were no different. They had human-like temperaments as well.

          So what makes our God different? Not a whole lot really. The key difference is that only the chief of the house of beings is referred to as god while the other members of the pantheon are referred to as angels. Aside from that, we’re pretty much dealing with ancient mythology by another name.

          • Damien

            Not at all. THIS God didn’t award you anything.

            He awarded it to the Jews (Truthseeker, Pennywise, Bill Lyle, anyone with Truth in their name etc).

            • sitrep

              Ah, you say “Awarded” You also Speak of the “Jews”
              Friend, What Jews do you speak of the real Jews, or the False Jews.
              Do you speak of the “Jews” That have a long list of False Flags?
              such as:
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

          • truthseeker4809

            Proclamation of any god is a pretexts for your slavery. Without rational, logical or scientific proof, any authoritative attempt for your obedience is demonic in its core attempt. They use scare tactics, bogus guilty trips, pathetic cry wolf etc to make you to follow their order.

            • Damien

              Not at all. THIS God didn’t award you anything.

              He awarded it to the Jews (Truthseeker, Pennywise, Bill Lyle, anyone with Truth in their name etc).

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “Proclamation of any god is a pretexts for your slavery.”

              We are servants, 4809. Either we serve one Master or another. There is no getting around that fact. Not in this life; not in this world. You think you’re your own master. But you are deceived.

              “Without rational, logical or scientific proof, any authoritative attempt for your obedience is demonic in its core attempt.”

              This is an incoherent statement. You seem to be saying that any claim to our servitude is, by definition, demonic in nature. How have you come to affirm the demonic when you deny the Heavenly? Are you being consistent? You admit existence and yet you deny a creator. You admit demons and you deny their opposite. Evidently, your personal model of existence in this world has not been well thought-out.

              “They use scare tactics, bogus guilty trips, pathetic cry wolf etc to make you to follow their order.”

              You don’t know who is calling you, 4809. You hear only the wolves. Have you ever even listened for the Shepherd?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Damien,

              You know better than that. If you are drawn to Him, it’s because He called you. If you want to be one of His people, it’s because He has asked you to approach Him.

              Anyone who feels left out for ethnic reasons, has not studied the Word. Race is important. But far more important than race is personal conduct and personal belief. If you believe in The Son, then you are the child of Abraham.

              God chose a single man to be the father of the nations. He could have chosen anyone, from any tribe. He chose Abram from Ur of the Chaldees. By blood, ANY man, woman or child alive on Earth at the moment, is related to Abraham. It is a mathematical certainty. Stop pretending to be an exile or a reject.

            • Damien

              BEEF SUPREME

              That is what I was saying (in a lazy and cut and paste).

              By Jews I meant the ancient Israelites and Judeans. Abraham, Moses etc could have been used to.

              A chosen people is not JUST a bullied people.

              ======

              They use scare tactics, bogus guilty trips, pathetic cry wolf etc to make you to follow their order.

              ========

              That’s could also be the definition of family and community and society etc. An interpsersonal God is interpersonal.

            • Mayhem

              @4809 who said…

              “Without rational, logical or scientific proof,”

              … probably believes such proclamations have merit and likely imagines he’s the first, around here, to have posed this argument.

              Truth is, 4809, if you consented to debate you would have sense, reason and logic rammed so far down your gullet you’d be forced to change your position or abandon any pretense to higher intellectual endeavour.

              Truth is, 4809, there exists an element of faith regardless the model of origins one adopts but at least the Bible makes complete sense from that point on whereas science just gets more and more convoluted the deeper one looks into it.

          • jknbt

            hey Salty…ya missed it!

            your main mistake is to blame God for the works of the Devil…this is the root of heresy and error for you:

            1) The devil is the deceiver, not God: John 8:44 identifies the devil as a liar and the father of lies
            2) God allows evil to happen. He is not the author of evil. Isa. 45 must be taken in context of the rest of the scripture. Jas. 1:17 says there is no variableness (darkness) or shadow of turning in God
            3) God loves you as shown by his desire that you be healthy and prosperous. See 3 john 1:2.
            4) As big and dangerous as the world and universe are, you really do need someone who cares about you and is on your side. Exodus 23:22 says that God will be on your side and be the enemy of your enemies. This is a conditional promise: you must enter into loving covenant with him for this to happen.
            5) The gods of Greece and all others are dead. Contrast that with the fact that the Holy Trinity is the one true and LIVING GOD. Paul called people to repent from serving dead idols to serve the Living God. See 1 Thess 1:9.
            .
            See Matt. 22:29: Jesus said, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.”

            when someone misses it as badly as you have, it is because of unrepentant sin. You are harboring felonies that you have never asked forgiveness for. What happens after this goes on too long is that God will spit you out. See the scary scripture in Rev 3:17. Your words are all just a load of fluff and smoke where you are blaming God for your sins.

            Your soul is in jeopardy or death. Repent while you still can.

            • Salty

              JKNBT

              What is the Holy Trinity! Have really thought about that is it not just Polytheism by another name…

            • Salty

              JKNBT

              You missed my point on the Devil

              Who created the Devil? Either God or In reality Man did to try and explain when things go wrong

          • BEEF SUPREME

            “Why would God, who claims to love humans, deliberately deceive them and prepare a place for them to be destroyed forever because of this deception that He instigated?”

            Salty,

            The doctrine of Eternal Punishment is a lie concocted by ecclesiastical authorities. No such concept exists in the Hebrew or Greek Manuscripts from which modern translations of the Bible are derived.

            “How does it make sense that I’m trying to find the truth, but God has deliberately prevented me from finding it?”

            God doesn’t prevent us from finding Truth. Rather, He promises that if we seek, we shall find. We seek in sincerity and with effort, or we waste our time and His. God wants His seekers actually doing a little seeking. He doesn’t give it all away for free.

            “Why would God create evil (Isaiah 45:7) and set it upon us, knowing full well that even those of us who claim to love him will be ultimately destroyed as well?”

            None of us will be ultimately destroyed by evil. If we succumb to evil, then we have ourselves to blame. And we will be judged accordingly. God is constantly helping us. However, it is very common for us to miss or to ignore the myriad ways in which He helps us directly and indirectly.

            “How do we reconcile calling him a “loving” God, when he has deliberately orchestrated the deaths of many innocent people, ultimately using the Devil as his attack dog?”

            Death is a punishment, Salty. It is not our finishing. Many of us who are alive at the moment, are worthy of death, yet we live. Why aren’t you questioning His mercy rather than His judgment?

            “How can I love a God who doesn’t care that I exist?”

            If God didn’t care that you existed, you wouldn’t exist. Do you draw breath? Do you ponder? Do you rise in the morning and eat and find shelter from the elements and respite from the tyrant and the oppressor? Sounds to me as though you have a Provider and a Protector. It’s okay to question Him, Salty. He expects us to question Him. But He also expects us to learn and to improve in knowledge. And He never promised us an easy ride in this world.

            “No wait; why should I love a God who doesn’t care that I exist?”

            You should re-think this approach. Why don’t you ask Him to prove to you that He cares for your existence? Ask Him sincerely and without accusation. But then try not to be blind to His response. Tell Him you are hard of hearing and dim of sight and ask Him to speak to you in bold and unmistakable ways.

            “I know that I can’t determine who is going to make it or not. However, I would be willing to wager that I’m not one of those chosen to replenish the new earth – especially given that this all knowing God has already drafted his list.”

            And where is this list? Are you privy to it? Have you read about it in the Bible? You know, the Bible answers all of your questions. You might consider that before arriving at all of your own answers without consulting it. God has taken the time to transmit extensive Instructions to us. Have you availed yourself of those Instructions?

            “When you consider the magnificent grandeur of the universe, it is hard to imagine that anything out there is actually on our side.”

            Consider also that the model for the universe is GIVEN to us by those who are definitely NOT on our side. Beyond what we can personally see of our ‘universe’… what do we really know about it?

            “…our lives on this planet can be instantly voided by any number of giant metal rocks in space.”

            Who needs rocks falling from the sky? Your heart might fail in the next instant. Your brain might malfunction. Your house might collapse and fall on you. Tomorrow is promised to no one. Yet we live. And of the time we are given, we WILL be called to render an accounting for the way we spent it. Do we live in fear of death and of the unknown? Or do we live in trust that HE WHO IS knows what He is doing, far better than any of us know anything – and that it is by our TREMENDOUS GOOD LUCK that it is HE who governs these Heavens and this Earth, and not any other.

            “We’re no different from the Native American Indians who look up into the sky and call this unseen force “the great spirit”.”

            Yes we are different. We have been given revelation from on High. And the revelation we have been given is testable and provable. Have you tested it? Have you proved it?

            “We personify everything we do not yet understand.”

            It is in our nature to do so. But we are called out of our nature, to another Nature.

            “What really shocked me as I thought about this delusion, is that the gods of our religion are no different from the gods of ancient Greece.”

            Those Greek gods are creations of the One True God, or they are the inventions of man.

            “Our God gets jealous, experiences regret, has a temper and actually loves and hates in much the same way humans do.”

            We are made in the image of the man who was made in the image of God. Why should this come as a surprise to you then? Our jealousies and wrath are eons beneath His – His wrath is righteous and His jealousy is righteous. Ours is not.

            “Zeus and his entire pantheon were no different.”

            Zeus et al. are counterfeits of the original. The counterfeit is, by definition, different from the original.

            “So what makes our God different?”

            He is perfectly Good. Perfectly Just. He is the Creator of ALL THINGS. He is the Savior of ALL MEN. Are we saved by Zeus? Or are we created by Poseidon? Has Morpheus sent his son to pay for our sins? Did Hermes send us his inspired word, whereby we might be made wise unto Salvation which is through faith in Christ Jesus? No. The Greek gods are idols. They are worthless things. They can do nothing, whereas our God can do everything.

            [email protected]

            • The Clucker

              ^ +10

              Thanks for that, Beef. You just answered a lot of the same questions I’ve been wrestling with as I’ve been studying.

            • Scanner Darko

              I often wonder why I bother to spend my time at the Loony BIN, but then I read through a thread like this one, whereby I see the power of the Word when wielded properly, and I remember that when “we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained”?

              And doesn’t the airplane always takes off against the wind?

              …anyways, Merry Hog Man YearDay everyone!

          • jknbt

            hey Salty–

            nope, you missed it…God created Lucifer as an archangel with great power and authority. We all have a choice to make and a role to play. Lucifer decided he would take over, knock God off his throne, and rule. That was his choice.

            It didn’t work. This is where the saying “pride comes before a fall” comes from. Satan’s pride caused him to deceive himself. He fell.

            for a tidy little write-up on the question, go to:
            http://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-fall.html

            Your pride has cause you to think God is the author of evil. He is not the author of Satan’s fall. The devil did it to himself. And by the way, He is not the author of your evil, either. Stop blaming God for your sins.

    • truthseeker4809

      Or just read the book “Alien Interview” edited by Lawrence Spencer. It is a must read book for enlightenment. The nurse who interviewed the alien was in house arrest in danger of exposing the story for 50 years.

    • truthseeker4809

      Or just read the book “Alien Interview” edited by Lawrence Spencer.

    • thebobchannel

      Much improved headline Lisa – didn’t know it was your article ’til I clicked on it.

    • dabu

      This could go a long way towards explaining the completely illogical flooding of western countries with muslims. It’s also interesting that the Bible tells us in the end times, people will have their heads cut off. That never made sense, until now.

    • Pink Slime

      Hello Angle#1,

      Charlie here. No one has even heard of this guy since he shot a plane out of the sky. So far what I know of him he does not have the credentials to be a “somebody”. I think he is more of a “lead in” guy more than anything else.

      I don’t think he has what it takes to be a leader.

      Signed,

      Charlie (do you know if eats doughnuts?) :lol:

    • Givys

      SORRY, ANTICHRIST RULES ONLY 31/2 YEARS; HE EMERGES AT HALFWAY POINT OF TRIBULATION AROUND ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (NUKE WAR?) AND EMERGES MWITH SCARLET BEAST REV 17:8

    • Jan Beute

      He is in BIG trouble !!!! No inspiration to the muslim people
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GZd4ZWZR00

    • The Real Deal

      You don’t know that we’re in the end times. You have no factual evidence to support your rhetoric. Oh the bible said it? Ohmagosh, well it must be true then! lol. You’re phoney baloney. Just like your bible. You don’t love God anyways… YOU LOVE MONEY! That’s why you write fear mongering stories everyday, and use click bait adjectives like”Earth Shattering”, “Bone Chilling”, etc. to grab readers. You are a hypocrite, and a walking contradiction.

      • Bill Lyle

        Well said, RD. Good to see you around, again.

    • Creepy Little Book

      “The ‘Muslim Jesus’ (not to be confused with the Christian Jesus) will return to help the Mahdi get accepted by the world.”

      What does this nonsense even mean? This is just an attempt to differentiate your personal idea of Jesus from those no good Muslims version. They believe that Jesus was a prophet and yes that same Jesus you worship, not some Muslim one you just invented out of thin air for your piece here.

      Why as a Christian are you so concerned with Muslim beliefs anyway? Where in scripture does it say to cherry pick other religions writings to support your end times fantasy theories.

      I swear even if Jesus was real and if he ever did come back, American Christianity would be in deep. literalism, creationism, flat earthers, and this non-stop end times fodder. Ya’ll need to get right.

      • Mayhem

        Not the same Jesus, Creepy, because the Muslim version was not crucified…

        http://quran.com/4/157

        … perhaps you don’t know what “same” means.

        • SuperMario

          So did every man have the name “Jesus” like how every woman was named “Mary” back then?

        • Damien

          Not killed on the cross anyway.

    • Anonymous

      by Jeff Foxworthy
      Have you ever wondered why it’s OK to make jokes about
      Catholics, the Pope,Jews,Christians, the Irish, the Italians, the Polish,the Chinese, the
      French (including French Canadians), the elderly, bad golfers,
      men/women,blacks/whites, etc, but its insensitive to make jokes about Muslims?

      Time to level the playing field and be politically correct by including the Muslims!

      Jeff Foxworthy on Muslims:

      1. If you grow and refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.

      You may be a Muslim.

      2. If you own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes.

      You may be a Muslim.

      3. If you have more wives than teeth,

      You may be a Muslim.

      4. If you wipe your butt with your bare hand but consider bacon to be unclean.

      You may be a Muslim.

      5. If you think vests come in two styles: Bullet-proof and suicide.

      You may be a Muslim.

      6. If you can’t think of anyone you haven’t
      declared jihad against.

      You may be a Muslim.

      7. If you consider television dangerous but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.

      You may be a Muslim.

      8. If you were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other
      than setting off roadside bombs.

      You may be a Muslim.

      9. If you have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four.

      You may be a Muslim.

      If you find this offensive and don’t forward it, you are part of the problem in America!

      If you delete this you are, most likely a Muslim.

    • Geeper

      Copypasting from other people’s old blog entries without credit again, Lisa? This chart dates back to 2013 at least.

    • t-rex

      You people on here with your comments are truly some very sick people. Lisa is just fine. If you don’t
      like what she say’s then get out of here you sick demented bastards. Especially YOU “LOUIS” YOU EFFING
      IDIOT. Erdogan will be the prophesied anti Christ. The seat of satan is in turkey. He will unite all the
      Muslim nations and eventually invade Jerusalem. When he will stand in the holy place and declares he
      is god, then all hell is going to break loose. Russia in the end will destroy Turkey and all the Muslims.
      Erdogan says he wants to do this by the year 2023, about 7 years away. within 10 years from now you
      will see this world war. Prophecy is being fulfilled right now, YOU BUNCH OF IDIOTS ON HERE. YOU
      PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS. YOU TO “MR KING OF SHAMBALA”, WHAT AN IDIOT
      YOU ARE, YOU SICK BASTARD.

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        I’m behind you on this – the King of some fantasy land is indeed sick…

      • King of Shambhala

        t-rex, you and Lisa are not right. You’re wrong.
        Why would people devote a seven-year website to debunk me to block the news Obama’s the Antichrist?

        There’s only one possibility: I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ Second Coming.
        Why?
        Because I’m alone in the whole wide world (even if you check in China), who is relying upon the heavenly miracle that occurred when the lottery in Obama’s hometown drew the Number of the Antichrist 666, on the day after Obama’s election (so as to spread this news and reveal that Obama is beyond any possible doubt THE ANTICHRIST).

    • caribbean critic

      When it comes to Jesus that mythical figure, Lisa is entirely wrong according to the Islamic religion Jesus is the same Jesus that Christians worship, in Islam he is described as the Son of Miriam (Mary) the virgin child mother !

    • finaltestament

      Ha hah what utter trash, its the devils work and idle hands. she must be being paid by the zionists, what a waste of time and effort ! so she and the co nazty links were paid by our 2 billions tax dollars to churn out such nazty effort, ie israel.

      Real christians are not like this, and neither are real jews.

    • ReformedII

      Oh good grief, so much ignorance & so little time!

      John 6:66 (ESV) After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him.

      Funny number 6:66. Hmmmmm 6 6 6 ?

      John ALSO said; “even now there are many” ANTI-CHRISTS.

      God, so many times told us exactly what we needed and we are so dumb we don’t get it!

      John 6 : 6 6 tells us what an anti-Christ is. An anti-Christ is EVERYONE who has all the information they need to know about who the Jesus Christ of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John [Well OK ALL the other places in the OT + NT where HE appears.] is. AND the word we call “anti” was actually used 18/20 times in the NT as “SUBSTITUTE.”

      An anti-Christ THEREFORE should KNOW & KEEP the Christ of the BIBLE, but SUBSTITUTES someone or something else for Him. The pope = “vicarus filii dei” is anti [substitute for] Christ :evil: . The mussies deny Christ’s REAL Personhood and substitute muhammed :twisted: . AND mor[m]ons :lol: SUBSTITUTE a fake “travelin” Jesus for the Jesus of THE True Scripture!

      A Hindu
      A Bhuddist
      An atheist
      Etc. Etc.

      CANNOT be an anti-Christ because they never had Him in the First place!

      So, BY DEFINITION, an “anti-Christ” HAS TO COME from those who acknowledged Christ BUT substituted someone else for Him!

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        Look up the articles by the delusional frenchie – you’ll get all the answers.

      • King of Shambhala

        Why would people devote a seven-year website to debunk me to block the news Obama’s the Antichrist?

        There’s only one possibility: I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ Second Coming.
        Why?
        Because I’m alone in the whole wide world (even if you check in China), who is relying upon the heavenly miracle that occurred when the lottery in Obama’s hometown drew the Number of the Antichrist 666, on the day after Obama’s election (so as to spread this news and reveal that Obama is beyond any possible doubt THE ANTICHRIST).

    • Pix

      You’re not talking about Muslims, you’re talking about the American trained, armed and funded terrorist mercenaries, quite a number of whom are Turkish. Turkey is a member of NATO and a supposed ally of the west. That’s if you class two faced double dealing back stabbers allies, who knows with America these days you sure have some strange bed fellows with Israel and Saudi Arabia. Turkey was the fence for ISIS/ISIL with their stolen Syrian and Iraqi oil, who were selling it to Israel and Israel onto the west. Russia is busy bombing convoys of oil tankers heading into Turkey, whose cheap discount oil was the only thing buoying up the sinking American dollar. RIP America and three cheers for Putin for proving you’re country is the real warmongering global monster. American bankers and arms dealers making a massive profit out of destroying millions of peoples lives, your end is nigh and good effin riddance.

      :lol:

    • FraMar

      Lisa, the comparisons in your article is interesting, as is your video. That third video included is going “to the edge” although I have see the document Brigitte Gabriel is speaking about. But look TO WHOM she is speaking.

      Who is this group “Watchmen On The Walls” that Brigitte Gabriel is speaking to? See link below:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_on_the_Walls

      Be careful with that group.

    • synchrOMicity

      WOW!! ” Muslims Just Declared This Man Their Leader” all Muslims, there are a lot of Muslims.
      Perhaps you should talk to a few more and get back with us, about 1.5 billion Muslims. Not that
      Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is not crazy, and loved by a few!

    • Anonymous

      http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/ISA.html
      HAS THE MAITREYA INCARNATED?

      Marginal data suggests that there may have been an incarnation of the Infinite Soul (i.e. The Maitreya, The Fifth Buddha, The Twelfth Imam [Mahdi], The Second Coming of Christ, The Messiah) on 16 June 2008 at 8:00 AM EST +/- 1 (or 1.5) hours. Three pieces of information have combined to flag this event. The first is a similar alignment of the Sun and Vulcan system (relative to Earth) that occurred when the Infinite Soul incarnated as Buddha (25 Dec. 413 BC) The second is a Tzu Wei astrological description that governs this unique being’s human interpersonal relations. The main characteristics of this astrological description are similar to Buddha’s.The third is a faint signature from the combined Princeton Random Event Generators (REGs) inputting random digital data to their Global Consciousness Project.The incarnation would have occurred in the western hemisphere, along a longitude varying from 170oW in the northern polar regions to 70o W in the southern polar regions. These values can vary by +/- 15o (or 22o) of longitude at any specific latitude. An adult about 35 years old is anticipated to be the recipient of this Great Soul. Some Tzu Wei descriptors are offered.While this data is far from conclusive, the quality of this data is deemed sufficient that collective mankind should be on the lookout for this unique being just in case the incarnation has actually occurred.

    • Anonymous

      There is no wonder the Churches are empty with all this

      Bigotry that is constantly churned out by this lot..

      Karma is indeed a biatch

      • jknbt

        Churches that teach that the bible is mythology and Jesus is merely a historical figure go out of business every year. Whole denominations that use the “historical critical” method of bible interpretation are dwindling into nothingness, and good riddance. Their young people see no reason to buy into a religion based on mythology, and go off to college and become atheists. The leaders of those churches have sent generations of their own children to hell. They will give answer for it someday.

        Contrast that with churches that teach the living God, the risen Savior, the Holy Ghost present and working in peoples lives daily, all based on the reading of the inspired, infallible, and inerrant word of God. Hmm, there is a difference. The churches are full, the young people get saved, and young families fill up the Sunday schools. The great end time revival prophesied in many places in the scriptures is going on full force. Have you heard of it? It sounds like you and your people are not part of it. This is your loss.

        This graffiti was found written on a wall of Perkins Seminary at SMU in Dallas. It sums up the whole issue:

        “QUESTION: Why did God create liberals?”

        “ANSWER: So there will be someone left around to preach the Sunday after the Rapture.”

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