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The Most Misunderstood Verse in the Bible Will Be Known in Late 2016

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Nelson Walters (author of Are We Ready For Jesus) recently had a blog post titled:

The Most Misunderstood Bible Verse” and I present some of his argument below with a little commentary on why it could have a huge impact on you in late 2016 – and the suggestion that you read his entire article at the link above.

NW writes: “…In my opinion the most misunderstood Bible verse (and the most damaging because of that misunderstanding) is Matthew 24:36: ‘But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only.’

“…If you ask a Christian what this verse means, 99.9% will tell you that the Sense of this verse is that we cannot know the timing of the Return of Jesus. I am sure that most of you reading this article believe that as well. I’m going to devote this entire article to this one verse and its implications and meaning…. If you take this verse to its logical conclusion, it means that Jesus can return at any time. (Most Christians believe this as well).

Pre-Tribulation Rapture supporters call this belief the theory of Imminence: Jesus can return to the earth at any time. No prophecy needs to be fulfilled prior to this return. If this theory is true we can reasonably throw away 25% of the Bible that deals with eschatology (the study of end times) because Jesus can return without any signs or prophecies being fulfilled.”

“…Pastor Rick Warren, author of “The Purpose Driven Life” (Zondervan, 2002), encapsulates this teaching perfectly in his book that has sold over thirty million copies and spent years on the New York Times best seller list. Many refer to him as America’s foremost spiritual advisor. On page 285 of this million selling book he makes this bold statement: ‘When the disciples wanted to talk about prophecy, Jesus quickly switched the conversation to evangelism. He wanted them to concentrate on their mission in the world. He said in essence, ‘The details of my return are none of your business. What is your business is the mission I have given you.’ –

Pastor Rick Warren Pastor Warren was obviously referring to Acts 1: 6-8 where Jesus instructs his disciples that they cannot know the timing of his return with precision. (Whether Jesus actually said to not prepare for or think about his return is highly debatable.) If you wonder why most churches don’t teach on end-times, this is THE REASON.

The thinking of these pastors is why teach about what isn’t going to matter. This obviously is highly dangerous thinking if the theory of Imminence is wrong. Imminence and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture This theory also has implications in the Rapture timing debate. If Jesus truly can return at any time without the need of prophecies being fulfilled first, then he must return PRIOR to those prophecies. This would mean that he would return prior to the 70th Week of Daniel. The theory of Imminence and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture are intimately tied together.

The Most Misunderstood Bible Verse

So now we understand the implications of this verse, let’s return to studying it to find out what it really says. In regard to this passage, my friend, Pastor Steve Müller of Faith Baptist Church in Gladstone, Australia… has brought to my attention the supreme importance of the words “that day” in Matt. 24:36. Proper interpretation of this verse hinges on these words. ‘Grammatically, Jesus’s use of the words ‘that day’ in Matt. 24:36 must refer back to a day He was just describing in the preceding verses. It cannot refer to an unspoken and silent Pre-Tribulation rapture that He never mentioned. There can be no doubt that “that day” is clearly in reference to the events of Matt. 24:29-31: ‘Immediately after the distress [tribulation] of those days’ — not before, as the Pre-Tribbers would have us believe.” — Pastor Steve Müller

With this simple observation, Pastor Müller dismantles the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory’s use of this verse. Let’s look at Matt. 24:30-31 that Pastor Steve refers to: ‘And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His[a]elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.’ (Matt. 24:30-31) This is the return of Jesus which is preceded by all the signs in Matt. 24:4-29. This simple grammatical proof of Pastor Steve’s shows without question that the verse we have been studying (Matt. 24:36) has NOTHING to do with Imminence.

Noah and Imminence

‘But it sure sounds like it implies Imminence’ you might say. That is only true when the verse is looked at out of context. Pastor Steve’s proof shows what the verse refers to the verses that preceded it. Let’s look at the verses that follow as well: ‘But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be.’ (Matt. 24:36-39)

Immediately after the verse we have been studying, Jesus uses the word “For” or “because.” This links the thoughts in Matt. 24:36 to what follows. The coming of the Son of Man will be “just like the days of Noah.” We see a contrast between the righteous (Noah) and the unrighteous. The unrighteous are completely surprised by the flood, but in Genesis we read Noah was not surprised because God warned Noah in advance: ‘For after seven more days, I will send rain on the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will blot out from the face of the land every living thing that I have made.’ (Gen. 7:4 NASB, emphasis mine)

As Noah began to prepare the Ark, he did not know when God would send the flood. However, there came a point in time when God warned Noah of the approximate timing of the Flood (“after seven more days”). This is exactly parallel to the situation the Church is in right now. We are preparing for the return of Jesus, and we do not know the timing of his coming. However, when the 70th Week of Daniel begins, we will know its approximate timing and “that day will not overtake [us] like a thief.” (1 Thess. 5:4 NASB).”

– As I (David Montaigne) explained near the beginning of Antichrist 2016-2019: “The comparison to a ‘thief in the night’ was a reference to the Jewish Temple’s high priest and the Temple guards, and how they would be perceived by a Temple priest only if that priest neglected his duties and fell asleep at his post. The Hebrew people believed that the fire of the altar in their Temple was a heavenly fire brought down by God, and that this special flame could never be replaced if their eternal flame went out. So it was very important for Temple priests to keep watch. If they fell asleep while guarding the Temple, looters could steal gold and silver – or far worse – the sacred fire of the altar could burn out. So the high priest and other Temple guards made their rounds to repeatedly check on the priest on duty overnight. If they found him sleeping, they would set his robe on fire. The shame of a burned robe, coupled with the fear of being burned, generally kept the priests awake on their watch.

To a priest who was awake, the coming of the High Priest was friendly and expected as scheduled. But if the priest was asleep, his master’s arrival would be terrifying. The lesson for the weary priest on night watch was “Don’t fall asleep when you should be watching. If you are awake and watching, then the high priest will arrive as a friend at the hour you expect him. If you are neglecting your duty to God and are asleep, then you will be burned.” Remember Hebrews 9:11 “when Christ appeared as a high priest” and Hebrews 10:21 “and since we have a great priest over the house of God…” Jesus is our High Priest of God’s Temple! The lesson for Christians today is: Think about what the Bible says and be awake to its clues; then when the highest priest of all comes back, it will be exactly when you expected Him, and you will be ready, and He will come as a friend. If you choose to neglect what the Bible says and be mentally asleep, He will come as a thief in the night.”

In a related article on being spiritually asleep in the end times, Nelson Walters points out some of the many times Jesus commands His disciples, and all of us, to stay alert and to WATCH for signs of His coming. “These multiple references to watching or being alert, cause problems for this [pre-tribulation rapture] theory because how does one “watch” for the return of Jesus if [imminence theory suggests we need] not be watching for the signs of his return that he gave us? … 1 Thess. 5:6 says: ‘But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day (the Day of the Lord) would overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert (GREGOREO) and sober.’ This passage also clearly differentiates that the opposite of sleeping is ‘watching’ or being alert. Thus spiritual sleeping in an eschatelogical passage means ‘not watching for signs,’ which BTW is the definition of the Theory of Imminence. Believing in Imminence therefore, is spiritually being ‘asleep!’”

Returning to his “Most Misunderstood Bible Verse” article: “…If you ask 99.9% of Christians if they believe that Jesus will come for the Church like a ‘thief in the night’ they will say ‘yes.’ Yet Paul tells us in 1 Thess. 5:4 that he will NOT come like a thief in the night to believers, only to unbelievers. This is exactly what Jesus taught comparing his return to the days of Noah. The unrighteous won’t know the day is coming but the righteous will.”

“…In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus prophesied many detailed aspects of the time prior to his return. He is God after all. Yet, western commentators would have us believe God the Son doesn’t know the day of his own return. Rather, what Jesus’s statement about “only the Father” knowing may have meant: “it isn’t the Yom Teruah (of the Rapture) until God the Father announces it’s Yom Teruah.” Only the Father knows; only the Father announces it. This parallels the system used in ancient Israel where the High Priest announced the MO’EDIM and ordered the blowing of trumpets. God the Father will announce the blowing of the Last Trumpet.

Interestingly, my (NW’s) friend Ken Smelko (another reader of this website) has presented a theory that this verse has more to do with the sighting of the new moon than foreknowledge. The Greek word translated ‘knows’ in Matt. 24:36 is EIDO which primarily means “to see, to perceive or to know because you perceive.’ Translated that way, the verse would read: ‘But of that day and hour no one SEES, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.’ (Matt. 24:36) Ken has presented the very real possibility that the Celestial Earthly Disturbance (Matt. 24:29) may obscure the sun and moon on earth and that only God the Father may be able to perceive the new moon on that future Yom Teruah.”

– In End Times and 2019, I (David Montaigne) explain a specific celestial disturbance as the explanation for a POLE SHIFT at the end of the tribulation caused by a wave of energy from the galactic center which approaches at light speed and therefore CANNOT BE SEEN in advance. We have much indirect evidence, but we cannot see it coming before it gets here. Nelson Walters’ main point is that Matthew 24:36 may help rule out a pre-tribulation rapture but it does not rule out knowing the timing of the Second Coming. (I could definitely be wrong, but in End Times and 2019 and Antichrist 2016-2019 I review the available evidence and explain why I expect Jesus Christ to return on a certain date in late 2019.) This would mean that the second half of 2016 is probably going to be an unmitigated disaster – and that we are already in the final seven years.

As Nelson Walters comments: “The bible is pretty clear that the majority of Christians miss the beginning of the 70th Week because they are asleep. (Matt 25:5)”

Look at world events! Look at the world economy! Read the Bible! Read Nelson Walters’ articles and his book: Are We Ready For Jesus? WAKE UP!

Ignorance on such matters will be very costly someday soon. As Nelson points out in the second article I linked to above: “Remember how Jesus told his disciples to ‘watch and pray’ in the Garden of Gethsemane?” [They fell asleep, were startled awake by the angry mob, and denied Christ.] “If they had watched and seen the mob with torches coming up the hill, they would have prayed and been ready and perhaps not abandoned Jesus. If we are not watching and praying prior to the end times, we can be unprepared like the disciples were and may commit apostasy.”

Don’t be suddenly surprised by the tribulation and end up renouncing faith in Christ out of fear. Many will fall away. Wake up, and be ready!

— contributed by David Montaigne,

author of End Times and 2019, and Antichrist 2016-2019

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    • Gil Carlson

      Does the passing of Planet X, Nibiru need to occur first and when will this happen?

      NIBIRU? PLANET X? What is the truth?
      Planet X has always been one of those subjects that has always puzzled me. I was very curious about what the real story was and the more I searched for answers, the more I floundered in all the guesses, scare tactics and religious hype. Planet X scared the crap out of me, but if it there was any truth to it, I wanted to know it so I could be prepared.
      So several months ago I started an endeavor to dig as deep and wide as I needed in order to pull up and test all the facts. So after I put it all together, information from scientists, NASA and other government sources, as well as very credible facts that countered the official line, and tons of historical data and calculations.
      I put it all together in a big book that was fairly easy for most of us to understand and at the same time included so many facts in a format that makes it easy to dig deep. Now you can read all about and discover what and why the government has been covering up. If Planet X does get close to Earth, what is likely to happen and where, and what you can do to prepare.
      While there are many predictions from astronomers and others included in this book, what was really fascinating to me were the predictions of two ordinary people. We’ll maybe not really that ordinary. You see a contacted two psychics. Before you say “What!” let me explain. These are not the kind of psychics that are on TV or offer to help you for huge sums of money. These two psychics live quiet, ordinary lives but are extremely accurate. I know both of them and I’m always amazed with their accuracy. Whatever they are tuned into, it is very real and powerful! So, independently, I contacted both of them and got some interesting and shocking answers. What amazed me was that both of them predicted the same year! While it’s not this year, it is still close enough that we need to be prepared!
      But, please, I don’t want you to rush off to a mountaintop or neglect your duties here on Earth or bury your head in the sand. And I don’t want you to take all my opinions as fact. The purpose of this book is to present you with all the credible facts in one easy to understand book so you can make your decisions and come up with the right conclusions for yourself!
      http://www.blue-planet-project.com/Nibiru-2015-Planet-X.html

    • ElOregonian

      Jesus, talking to his disciples said: “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy[a] to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” – Luke 21:36

      Escape what things? The Wrath of God, which is coming on that day of the Lord. For we are not appointed to wrath “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” -1 Thessalonians 5:9

      So, Mr. Warren, teacher in acceptance of “christlam” (melding of two faiths Christianity and Muslim as one faith, although the moon god of Allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) is heresy.

      In my opinion, this is False doctrine, from a false teacher, and false understanding. Beware.

      • King David

        Amen,you are 100% right!

      • maxwell

        …so many really “important” preacher/teachers, out there, have a penchant for mixing things up…really bad!
        …There is a dearth of spirituality being displayed by those who are out there as SPIRITUAL LEADERS.
        …The ‘spiritual’ commitment to any idea is the “REAL” commitment…It does not matter what is said or meant in earthly terms…We have a real majority of Christians in this “church”, who are NOT spiritually committed to the truth…the unvarnished, reality of what the WORD tells us about ourselves…
        …I believe its gonna take a mass exorcism, (ELE), to get a bare handful of truthful souls, out of the mess these false teachers have purposely constructed.

        • maxwell

          …Truthy…I think you got it right. We ALL exist together, in spiritual body, for a thousand years. Fully aware of our “place”, in the scheme of things. The rich man mourned, that he could see Lazarus in Abraham’s embrace, knowing why it happened that way. Nothing is hidden.

      • TRUTHY1

        This verse is still completely misunderstood by this Author. The Verse directly preceding it is the overlooked clue ” 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” Isn’t there a one thousand year Reign “On Earth” on new Jerusalem “before” the Heavens and Earth pass away ? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A1%E2%80%933&version=KJV Satan is in chains for 1000 years before being loosed a little season. http://www.gotquestions.org/new-jerusalem.html Then a new Earth and Heavens are Created and then the verse in question fits in.

        36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. ( How do you tell time without a nighttime or period of darkness that ceases with the return of the Messiah ?)

    • Randal Mann

      Interesting post. I agree that this is one of the most misunderstood and misused scriptures in the Bible. I believe that Jesus is actually referring to a wedding in the verse. He states that only our heavenly Father knows the time of his return. Let me explain. Jewish weddings in those times went like this. A man would want to marry a certain woman. He would go to her father to make the marriage agreement. If he received the father’s blessing, he would then return to his father’s house where he would wait while his father built a dwelling for the new bride and groom. Only the father would be able to determine when that dwelling was built and prepared for the new couple. When he determined the house ready for them, he would then send his son to fetch his new bride. They were already married in there hearts but until the dwelling was ready, they could not be together or consummate the marriage. I understand the verse to mean that our Father in heaven is building a house for Jesus and his bride. When it is finished, he will send his son to fetch his bride. Only God knows when that house will be ready. Thanks for your post.

    • Enki

      Here is the truth wrt to that verse. wheretofromhere.org. The problem with knowing the truth is that it hurts so everyone hides from it. The world is one big lie at the mo and the reason no one understands that passage is because of the Catholic Church. It is all proven in the free book download on that site but all info there is current as well. To give you a hint, that passage has to do with Heliocentrism.

    • Pink Slime

      If you believe in a “pre-tribulation rapture” then you don’t understand anything at all!

    • Jango

      A few points. Daniel’s 70th week has nothing to do with Revelations, it was fulfilled at the time of Jesus. Study of the feasts shows us that Jesus already fulfilled the first 4 of the 7 feasts, so the Tribulation will most likely start on the Feast of Trumpets which is the next feast Jesus will fulfill. The tribulation is a 7 year cycle, so it cannot interrupt another 7 year cycle, it can only start at the beginning of a new 7 year cycle. The rapture is clearly shown in scripture in the Book of Revelation, so we know where in the revelation timeline it will occur. The feast of trumpets has been celebrated for 2 days for several centuries now (that could be why no one knows the day or hour). Pole shift is impossible because the earth and universe that God created does not have a North and South Pole, neither is the earth a round spinning globe. These are just some issues that need to be understood before one can begin to understand the rest. You can find scriptures and studies for all of these issues at ItsHisStory.com God Bless…

    • dennisR8

      I know those words that “two witnesses must ‘see’ ” before they tell Sanhedrin priests what they saw must be given consideration BUT your further conclusions of present timing is still Buloney.

      The man that discovered the scientific evidence that Revelation 12 made be fulfilled on September 23, 2017, in the year 2013 immediately made the prediction that the Tribulation would begin in 2014 and would end in 2021, he was wrong in his timing.

      Scott Clarke may be an astronomer or not, but he did obtain a reasonable conclusion, initially. This is evidence of knowing that the South West Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado created a computer model of the planets in concert with a predictable pattern in the 1980′s. That computer model followed Brache, Kepler and Newton’s scientific and mathematical conclusions with perturbations due to gravity from another planet. Clarke may have used this computer model or by other means correctly BUT he came to the wrong conclusion. The Tribulation has not begun. September 23, 2017 will rock the world BUT it will not be the beginning of the TRIBULATION or it’s middle.

      September 23, 2017 is a warning the Tribulation is soon, Yes I believe that is a reasonable conclusion.

      • Jacko

        How can this be reasonable? Quoting a 2ooo y/o book which came into existence before people could even read/write. You the experiment right, where 1 kid in a classroom is told a sentence which he must tell the person next to him and so on? Where to story changes WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON

        • Jacko

          so explain to me how the bible can be accurate?

          • FAT AXL!!!

            Because the guys who wrote it had pens and material on which to write. And they were not illiterate schoolchildren trying to be funny.

            Then, other guys made copies of the originals.

            And they were careful.

            So today, we have the Bible.

            • TRUTHY1

              We also have hundreds of other “eyewitness” accounts that have been deleted from modern Roman influenced “bible” books (66). Those “eyewitness accounts are also backed up by historical accounts that corraborate the Truth. The modern assembly of books that are called the Bible are not the same teachings the Apostles were bringing to the people nor are they a complete collection of Scriptures and other important letters.

            • FAT AXL!!!

              “The modern assembly of books that are called the Bible are not the same teachings the Apostles were bringing to the people…”

              This is an outrageous and demonstrably false assertion. We have at our disposal New Testament manuscript and papyrus lines dating back to the early second century. We have the writings of the early (so-called) church fathers, like Ignatius (1st century — not to be confused with Ignatius of Loyola) who was a contemporary of the Apostle John.

              The claim that our modern New Testament Scriptures do not accurately reflect the original documents, is outright false.

              The many other ‘scriptures’ you mention are mostly gnostic concoctions (like the gospel of Thomas or the infancy gospel of Jesus) or are simply late fabrications that either didn’t exist at the time the apostles lived, or were recognized by the early church as being non-inspired works of non-inspired men.

      • unidentified

        i can remember when 1999 was supposed to be the big year of changes, then they said it would happen in 2012, 2013, 2016-17, 2020 2030 :arrow:

    • Everette

      Ok ! The verse used says you will not know the day…….or the hour . It said nothing about the week or the month or the year ! When these signs come to past lift up your heads and know that your redemption draws nigh and is even at the gate . Now I am going to through the frog into the pot and cook it . Jesus said in Matthew 24:5 and Luke 21:8 that He was not the Christ . Then he goes on to talk about a son of a man ! Jesus was not the son of a man . Joseph was not his dad ! Mary his mother was a Levite because her cousin Elisabeth pregnant with John by the high priest was a Levite . Elisabeth had to be a Levite to marry a high priest . So Jesus being the son if a woman as Genesis spoke about could not be the son of man . Ezekiel in many of his chapters GOD called him son of man , meaning son of your father or son of Adam . In Matthew 24:25 Jesus uses the word I . Then in verses 30-31 he referees to the son of a man and says And He shall send His angels to gather His elect . Who is He or His ? It is not Jesus talking about himself ! Now back to the rapture . Paul says at the last trump or trumpet the dead shall rise and then we which are alive and remain . Note at the Last Trump . Meaning the last one to sound . Then in Matthew 24:29 it says after the tribulation of those days . Wait tribulation , after ? The trumpet sounds or he sounds the trumpet . Now in revelations there are 7 trumpets . At the last trumpet time shall be no more . But this happens at the end the tribulation . Now proof we can know just about when the trump will be sounding . Matthew 24:29 tells us immediately after the tribulation of those day . The sun will be darken and the moon will not give its light (not turn to blood ) and the stars will fall from heaven to the earth . Then , then , then shall the sign of the son of a man which Daniel says will be called up and crowned with power and glory come back from GOD and shall sound the trumpet ( last trumpet ) . So this is the last days of the tribulation period . More proof ? Revelations 20:5-6 states this is the first resurrection , the other live not again until after the 1000 years are gone . Plainly the bible tells us when to expect the resurrection just at the start of the 1000 years of peace reign. But know this there will be those protected from the tribulation . Pray that you be worthy to escape those things that will be coming upon the earth . Revelation 3:7-10 tells who will excape the tribulation . The church of Love ( Philadelphia ) those that have keep HIS word . . He says because you have kept MY word I will keep you from the hour of temptation that shall come upon all the earth to try all men . Everyone else and the other 6 churches will go through the tribulation to try them . Why ? Because they played patti cake and was half hearted in serving GOD ! Now as to the clue who the son of man is , look a Ezekiel chapters 44 and 46 . He is called the prince that shall bring back the Sabboth or Saturday worship and the sacrifice . GOD is stated as being the KING . So who was Jesus ? The book of John chapter 1 states in the beginning the word was with GOD and the word was GOD then it goes on to tell that Jesus was the word . Jesus was GOD become flesh . Now another mystery . So why was Esau , Edomites who is the Vatican and the natzi , killing the Jews ? Because they have hid the truth under the vatican vaults and know that the son of man as Enoch ( the book they took out of the bible ) said will be born in the last days . He was kept until the end of days ! This is your son of man and HE is walking among us now ! GOD will soon call him before HIM . Soon the NWO , UN will seek again to try and destroy the Jews living in Israel and Israel ( lost tribes , America , Europe and Australia ) as the dragon ( satan ) seeks to kill the man child born of the woman ( Israel ) . The NWO are the natzi , Vatican , Esau bunch and the UN leaders are Muslims , Ishmael bunch . These are the ones GOD rejected because of their evil hearts . The son of man is going to take their kingdom away from them . Because towards the end they will be trying to rule all the earth and destroy Israel and Judea living in Israel . The chosen in Revelation 3:7-10 will be with the son of man in the wilderness as the old testsment teaches and He will teach them , feeds them and protects them until it is time to go forth and conquer the kingdoms of the world . Now go back and re read your bibles ! The Vatican has brain washed your minds .

    • RedRiverUnger

      The “Secret” Rapture and End Times Eschatology was made up by 2 Jesuit priests Immanue Lacunza (pen name Rabbi Ben Ezra) and Emmanuel Lacunza. Look it up before you start personal attacks like a fool.

      It’s been a huge money maker as evidence by people peddling their “end time” books even here on BIN. Which always fail – example the Blood Moons and Schmeita (spelling?) and other nonsense which never happened.

      The period of Tribulation started even in the Apostle John’s time (weren’t all the Apostles and manyChristians martyred?)

      Proof from the Bible (which of course you will dismiss and ignore or ridicule or justify) Revelation 1:9 “I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance that are in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and my testimony about Jesus.”

      Your brother and partner in what?!! THE TRIBULATION.

      Stop believing these false money-grubbers. 1 Tim 6:5 “and constant friction between men of depraved mind who are devoid of the truth. These men regard godliness as a means of gain. ”

      Focus on God in humility and obedience and you will be saved. It’s obvious as the nose on your face we are nearing the end. And even if not, the end means your physical life as well – either way we will stand before God in judgement in that Great Day.

      Love one another and obey God. Eccl 12:13 “The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.”

    • RedRiverUnger

      The “Secret” Rapture and End Times Eschatology was made up by 2 Jesuit priests Emmanuel Lacunza (pen name Rabbi Ben Ezra) and Francisco Ribera. Look it up before you start personal attacks like a fool.

      It’s been a huge money maker as evidence by people peddling their “end time” books even here on BIN. Which always fail – example the Blood Moons and Schmeita (spelling?) and other nonsense which never happened.

      The period of Tribulation started even in the Apostle John’s time (weren’t all the Apostles and manyChristians martyred?)

      Proof from the Bible (which of course you will dismiss and ignore or ridicule or justify) Revelation 1:9 “I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance that are in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and my testimony about Jesus.”

      Your brother and partner in what?!! THE TRIBULATION.

      Stop believing these false money-grubbers. 1 Tim 6:5 “and constant friction between men of depraved mind who are devoid of the truth. These men regard godliness as a means of gain. ”

      Focus on God in humility and obedience and you will be saved. It’s obvious as the nose on your face we are nearing the end. And even if not, the end means your physical life as well – either way we will stand before God in judgement in that Great Day.

      Love one another and obey God. Eccl 12:13 “The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.”

    • Tom Mason

      Pastor Rick Warren? Rick just came out and said that being gay is O.K with God. Rick Warren?? Serious? You make me laugh, he is a false prophet.

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