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Christ clearly refuted this dangerous doctrine of deception!

Thursday, December 1, 2016 23:28
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The doctrine of the trinity is a carnal attempt to comprehend that which is only understood through the spirit. Man can not know the things of God, except through the spirit of God (1 Cor 2:11-13).

1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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Jesus spoke to the people through parables then, and continues to do so now. As Christ interpreted the parables he taught to his Disciples, so too does the Holy Spirit reveal His teachings for us today (Mark 4:34, John 14:26, Eph 1:17).

1 Cor 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Doctrine of the Trinity – Is it Fundamental to the Christian Faith

It is the Holy Spirit that teaches us all things and reveals the following mysteries. We are to be led by the Spirit of God and not a man made doctrine of the trinity (Rom 8:11-18).

  • Great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16)
  • God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.
  • The carnal mind is in opposition against God (Romans 8:7)
  • The things of the Spirit of God are spiritually discerned (1 Cor 2:14)
  • One singular God spoke and the world was, not many Gods or persons (Gen 1:26)
  • The only true God, (is) also Jesus Christ (John 17:3)
  • And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin (Rom 8:10)
  • All the promises of God are in Jesus Christ (2 Cor 1:20).
  • All things were made by Jesus who is the Word (John 1:1)
  •  “I and the Father are One” (John 10:30).

Matt 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

As you consider the verse above keep in mind Abraham was not a father in the physical sense, but in the Spiritual, through the same Faith that is in Christ. Right now you are most likely thinking, hey hold on a minute Abraham believed upon Yahweh, and not upon Christ Jesus.

In the next article in this series, we will discover through the Word that Christ and Yahweh are one. This revelation if understood will completely unravel the doctrine of the trinity.

The doctrine of the trinity really starts to crumble when we realize that God does not have a father, and Christ is indeed God.

Matt 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

If Jehovah is the father of Christ, how is it that mary conceived through the Holy Spirit? Would this not make the Holy Spirit Christ’s father?

The Doctrine of the Trinity and Jewish Monotheism

The doctrine of the trinity is not accepted by judaism. This religious group claims albeit falsely to worship the Father, which is one of the persons of the so-called christian godhead.

Matt 10:32-33 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

  • Judaism claims to know and thus follow their God who is Yahweh, and yet they do not.
  • Anyone that denies that Jesus is the Christ is a liar. He is an antichrist that denies the Father (who is ) also the Son (1 John 2:22).
  • They rejected the commandments of God, and only kept the traditions of men (Mark 7:8-9,13).
  • Moses gave them the law and yet none of these false rulers of the people kept the law (John 7:19).
  • Christ clearly stated,” I and the Father are One” (John 10:30).
  • Jesus told them that if God truly was their Father, they would love Him (John 8:42)
  • Most who claimed to be of the tribe of Judah, did not recognize the Messiah, and this is still true today.
  • The genesis of judaism most definitely is from the same spirit of deception that was prevalent at the time of Christ’s advent (Mat 22:2-39).
  • The Lord himself gave a sign. Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son; His name is Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14).
  • They are without an excuse. Mary gave birth to Jesus who is called Immanuel; which being interpreted is God with us (Matt 1:23).
  • Before Christ, sacrifices were made for the sins of the people. After Christ however, there remains no covering for sin apart from his shed blood.
  • Jesus declared their house to be desolate, and it remains in this condition today (Mat 23:38).

The fathers of the chief priests, scribes and the elders of the people killed the prophets. These self-righteous false judeans, who were of their father the devil, conspired to kill Jesus. They thought in doing so the inheritance would be theirs (Mat 23:30-38, Mat 21:38, Mat 26:3).

The parable of the vineyard in Mark chapter twelve describes these murderous hypocrites, and the punishment reserved for them.

We are not to pay attention, but are indeed to be aware of the jewish fables and the teachings of men (Tit 1:14).

The Doctrine of the Trinity – Is the Father greater than the Son

The doctrine of the trinity claims one God with three distinct persons. Without the Holy Spirit truly residing within a man, he will always be learning as it were, and will never be able to come to the knowledge of the Truth. Mankind is not to pray to the Holy Spirit, but for the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit that proceeds from God that enables us to understand the mysteries of God.

Within the teachings of this doctrine of the trinity deception, the claim is made by some that the Father is greater than the Son.

doctrine of the trinity

It is taught that God the Father is supreme, while God the Son is Supreme in authority. But this separation would still represent two Gods, if in fact they were not one. It can also be said that the Son relinquished some of this authority, as He became a servant to all men.

Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

The mystery of God is revealed through the Spirit of God; the Holy Spirit is not another God but the manifestation of Christ in us (John 14:21).

2 Cor 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

The manifestation of God in the flesh through Christ is a mystery; the manifestation of the Spirit of God in the Elect also is a wonderful mystery (1 Tim 3:16).

John 5:17-18 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the judeans sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Christ clearly did not allow for the false doctrine of the trinity to hold any weight.

In Christ alone we can have Redemption and forgiveness of sins; as well Christ is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:14-15).

What Jesus declared in the gospel of John should easily destroy the false teaching regarding the doctrine of the trinity.

  • If you know me, you know my father also, because I and the Father are One (John 14:7, John 10:30).
  • From this present time you both know the father, and have seen him; this was possible because God was manifest in the flesh (John 14:7, 1 Tim 3:16).
  • He that sees me has seen the Father John (14:9).
  • I am in the Father, and the Father is in me (John 14:11).
  • The Father hath life in himself; also it is given to the Son to have life in himselfJohn 5:26

The Doctrine of the Trinity – And then there were two

The doctrine of the trinity fails to take into account what God did for mankind.

Can a person or mere mortal man save mankind from their sins, or forgive them of their sins? Christ was never a mere mortal man, as this deceptive doctrine of the trinity would suggest.

Christ made himself somewhat of no reputation, and took upon himself the form of a servant. He was outwardly like unto man, to give his life a ransom for many (Phil 2:7, Matt 20:27-28).

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

Christ spoke of the Spirit, which they that believe on him would receive. The Holy Spirit was not yet given; because of the fact that Jesus was not yet glorified. And yet Christ had this same glory before the world was (John 7:39).

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

  • Christ is (present tense). He is always present with the elect in the Spirit.
  • Christ was (past tense).  He always existed.
  • Christ is to come again (future tense). Upon His Glorious return, He will reign as King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.
  • Does this sound like a person as suggested by the doctrine of the trinity?
  • Why has man not yet come up with the doctrine of the trinity of Christ?

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, even the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

 

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  • Man

    i know an scriptural apologetic called mayhem who disagrees :)

  • Truthseeker

    destined

    I agree the doctrine of a trinity is false and is the doctrine of an antichrist but why then do you use the catholic term “ghost” ??

    You seem to portray the Father’s Spirit as an “entity” which it is not, it is the “seed” of the Father by which He begets us as HIS SONS.

    The Spirit of the Father is the spirit equivalent of human sperm, have you never read where John uses the term “Seed, sperm” ?

    I John 3: 9

    9 “Whosoever is born of God (born as spirit) doth not commit sin; for his [GOD} --seed --{#4690 sperma] remaineth in him [that person]: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.”

    Ephesians 1: 13, 14

    13 “In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were “sealed” with that holy Spirit of promise,”

    We are “sealed” with a “ghost”???? The “ghost” is a promise???? If the “ghost’ is a promise that is more mystery then I can comprehend.

    14 “Which is the earnest (down payment) of our inheritance — until the redemption — of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.”

    When we repent of transgressing the Law of God and are baptized and THEN receive the Spirit of the Father by the laying on of hands we are begotten as a spirit fetus waiting to be born again into the familly of GOD the Father.

    That small measure of eternal life (The Father’s Seed) placed into a person by the laying on of hands is the deposit on the contract (covenant) we have entered that promises us eternal life IF we endure until the end.

    Without a deposit i.e. a consideration, a contract is not valid, not binding on either party.

    We first agreed to obey the voice of GOD and then God the Father binds and makes the contract valid by placing with in us His Seed (spirit), begetting us as His son waiting to be born into His Family..

    That Holy Spirit of the Father in parts the spiritual ability to understand the “things” of GOD.

    • maxwell

      …DTBR…old truthseeker, is a legalist. He really believes that his “hair-splitting” philosophy…is the Father’s work. He can find fault in anybody…and he tries real hard. Had he known Saint Paul, he would have never trusted him. Truthseeker would, probably have rejected him just for being a Roman, or some other ‘earthly’ reason.
      …Seeker bestows zero grace to any who don’t worship exactly like he does and ya’ gotta have all the right words…too. Grace, is not a word he’s fond of using…I’m not sure if he’s really been introduced.
      …He thinks he understands “the things of God”…but I know for sure he doesn’t understand who Christ really is.

      …Truthseeker is severe, and defensive, He’s not here to help anybody understand anything…he’s here to prove to all the world, just what a good obedient little Hebrew he is. Jesus Christ is just an “addendum”.
      …seeker is proving to be by nature, and arrogantly judgmental.

      • Truthseeker

        maxwell

        as usual not one word explaining or proving anything — not one scripture to back up your personally invented and concocted doctrine.

        By the way; Paul is a brilliant Torah scholar, every thing he taught and “did was by the book”.

        Paul was taught by the best and brightest of his day Gamaliel and by the way did you ever stumble across this statement in Acts.

        24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

        Max please take careful note — Paul walks orderly and KEEPS THE LAW WHICH I ALSO DO and you —- not at all.

        You are condemning me for doing exactly what Paul did and Jesus Christ does as well — is that really wise??

        • maxwell

          …seeker… the devil himself used scripture to tempt Christ. You know nothing about my worship…and you can’t stop talking about yours.
          …I am Christian. Jesus Christ IS YHVH. Jesus Christ IS God. Emanuel …’God with us.’

          • Deputy Dawg

            NOPE! Sorry Max Jesus is God’s Son, he is certainly not God. He was perfectly created by the one and only God with the primary objective of becoming the Eternal Passover Sacrifice. Without Christ becoming our advocate, without the blood of a perfect man being sacrificed individual repentance or the “Passing-over” of sin would not now be possible.

            Whether you understand or not Jesus Christ was the first begotten son of God. He was the first of many sons to come, the first of the firstfruits, the first human being to ever be raised from the dead and transformed into spirit. Jesus was the very first besides God Himself to enter into the spiritual family of Elohim. This is part of God’s plan for everyone who loves and obeys Him.

            Max it appears that your a bit confused in this area. Bro I suggest lots of prayer and study, but remember until the Spirit opens your mind scripture is often difficult to grasp. I commend you for seeking truth and not being ridged in what you have yet to fully and spiritually decipher or understand.

            In this particular case please let me try to shed a little light on what hides in your darkness. I suggest that because Christ inherited the mind or logos of his Father you incorrectly assume and have presumptuously applied the “title” Emanuel or God is with us to mean that Yahushua or Jesus, God’s son who shares God’s divine logos through inheritance is instead Yahweh his creator and Father.

            Max, the scriptural name Emanuel as used is a title meaning God’s way of thinking is in Christ. It is not in anyway shape or form an indication of godly equality or an inference as to the validity of the false trinity godhead! I hope this tidbit helps you better understand.

            Offered out of love,

            A Student of the Word

          • maxwell

            …Amonibus…If you’ve seen me…you’ve seen the father.

          • Mayhem

            A Student of the Word said…

            “Jesus is God’s Son, he is certainly not God”

            … which he supports with nothing more than his opinion that scripture means something other than what is plainly stated by no less than Isaiah, Matthew, John, Paul, Thomas and an unknown Psalmist. No less, i say, because indeed the God of the OT (Yahweh) and of the NT (Jesus) both self describe as one in the same which i will attempt to prove with the following argument.

            1) – Quite apart from the prophesied Emmanuel (Isa 7:14, Matt 1:23) Jesus titles include (Isa 9:6) Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

            2) – God is the first and the last (Isa 43:10-11) but so too is Jesus (Rev 1:17-18 & 2:8) with logic dictating there can only be one Alpha & Omega (God-Rev 1:8, Jesus-Rev 22:13).

            3) – God alone created all things (Isa 44:24) and yet Jesus made all things (John 1:3, Col 1:16).

            4) – God’s blood for our purchase (Acts 20:28) and yet Jesus paid the price with His blood (Rev 1:5-6 & 5:8-9)

            5) – In the beginning, before Abraham even (John 8:58), was the Word (John 1:1) and the Word became flesh (1 Tim 3:16) and lived among us (John 1:14).

            In conclusion can there be any doubt that it was Yahweh/Jesus, whom spoke to Moses, and will an anonymous opinion suffice or does scripture triumph?

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        • Deputy Dawg

          “Paul walks orderly and KEEPS THE LAW WHICH I ALSO DO and you —- not at all.”

          Bro we are all sinners. No man is capable of keeping God’s Law.

          Galatians 2:21. “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

          Ecclesiastes 7:20. “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.”

          Apparently Paul wasn’t quite as arrogant and presumptuous as you seem to be. He acknowledges the fact that he battles sin just like everyone else does. Try to remember there isn’t a good one among us, as difficult as that truism may be to swallow that includes you.

          Paul wrote in Romans 3: 9. What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10. As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11. There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

          And in Romans 7: 21. “I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.”

          I don’t usually agree with my friend Max but I do try to at minimum to give him mutual respect understanding that as far as sin goes we are all in the same boat. I try to always remember my own imperfection. Remaining in perpetual state of repentance is what God requires of each of us because sin is our nature. Try it, it’s good for the human psyche. Perhaps if you do you wont concentrate so much on the splinter in Max’s eye, you’ll have ample time and a spiritual inclination to remove the beam from your own!

          A Student of the Word

          • Truthseeker

            anonymous

            I have “never” stated I keep the Holy Law of God to perfection — that was done one time only by Jesus Christ. but I do as my Master commands me to do, I obey Him and HE tells us all we must live by HIS LAW, it is our duty to our Master. There is no reward for doing what is required of you.

            Eternal Life is a free gift – none can earn it –ever!!

            But we are required to do the WILL of the Father just exactly as did Christ and the Father’s will is fully revealed by the Torah, the 5 books of Moses.

            The Torah was spoken to Moses while on the mountain for 40 days and nights from the MOUTH of GOD.

            The Torah is the WORD of GOD which Christ told Satan we are to live by every word of!!!

            I make no apologize for my zeal for the HOLY LAW of GOD, that Law which is HOLY, GOOD AND JUST!

            anonymous,

            Please listen to the words of our savior:

            17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (fill to the full)

            18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

            i.e the LAW is not going away ever!!!

            19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

            Maxwell is not keeping the Sabbath nor the Holy Feasts of GOD much less the whole Torah and he rails against those that do so,

            is he not judged as least in the kingdom according to the very words of Jesus Christ??

            I do my best to explain to others how important God’s Law is and they not only hate me but the whole Law as well.

            so called christianity runs after easter, xmas, sunday, etc. which are inventions of the catholic church and thus reject the example set for us by our Savior Jesus Christ.

            And you expect me to keep still??? I love order and law as does my Father, my Father is the Father of Law and order,

            Satan is the father of lies, disorder and confusion.

            My Master says to hate SIN but love the sinner — I do not hate others — but I do hate their lawlessness.

        • maxwell

          …seeker I’m not condemning you, or anybody…that’s your job, ain’t it?…oh and God’s job, too…what do you guys do? Take turns?

      • maxwell

        …truthseeker…please seeker tell me what you think you know about my worship?
        …what you said:”Max please take careful note — Paul walks orderly and KEEPS THE LAW WHICH I ALSO DO and you —- not at all.
        …Not at all huh? come on my psychic old buddy…Tell me about it. what do you think you know about it?
        …my Hebrew brother, should want to answer a poor old deceived Goy, like me.

        …I’d also like the formula you use to determine which day of the week is the Sabbath…

        …what i know about your beliefs, from the last two years, on bin, is that the flavor of your belief system, is “EXCLUSIONARY”…My Lord, Jesus Christ is inclusive to all and any…That “believe” in HIM…All the rest of your ‘amalgam’ doctrine is meant to deceive the little ones into thinking that, believing, is not enough…and trying to discourage them, from even approaching Jesus Christ. Exclusionary.
        …I’m out here at service to my fellow man, 24-7. I DO God’s work. I am Blessed, and continually amazed at the grace my Father bestows. I am in a state of GRACE, i stay in His presence…come hell or high water.
        … Jesus Christ is GOD, YHVH. I touch the face of God all day every day. I am, part of the body of Christ. This alone proves to me that you are blowing hot air. You were supposed to have internalized all this tradition decades ago. Supposed to engrave this into your heart, instead of on a big billboard…always, within somebody’s earthly sight, of course… “Oh looky, Daddy, look how HOLY that man is!!! WOW!!!

        • Truthseeker

          maxwell

          Every 7th day is a Sabbath, do you really believe God made the Sabbath Holy and then made it impossible for those that obey to keep that day Holy by resting??

          God would force us to sin, force us to transgress the 4th Commandment??

          Max here is one way to confirm the date.

          For two consecutive years on the same two Holy days – Four consecutive Blood moons have occurred 3 times since 1949

          Israel became a nation on May 21,1948, Balford agreement

          1949 Passover
          1949 Feast of Tabernacle

          1950 Passover
          1950 Feast of Tabernacle

          The 6 Day war restored Jerusalem and additional land

          7/67 – 7/68 was a Jubilee year

          1967 Passover
          1967 Feast of Tabernacle

          1968 Passover
          1968 Feast of Tabernacle

          2014 Passover
          2014 Feast of Tabernacle

          2015 Passover
          2015 Feast of Tabernacle

          These 12 blood moons fell on the exact Feast days they were supposed to according to the Jews moon based calendar and thus the Sabbaths days would also be exact.

          Max have you rejected the clear statement of Christ that NONE can come to Christ unless the Father first draws them?? That statement means it is not up to the person, it is up to the Father whether or not one is called in this present age.

          44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

          Max you like all the so called christians reject the very pointed and clear doctrine Christ taught during His 3 1/2 years, Like this one “Why call you ME LORD LORD and not DO the things I say?”

          How about this one; ” 53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

          Max there is much more that is required then just accepting Christ with your mouth!

          Those called and chosen must also endure until the end, which implies if you do not endure you will not be in the resurrection.

          Max do you not believe Christ when He also clearly tells us in Matthew 24: 5 “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many”

          Christ is stating “many”will come preaching HE IS THE CHRIST and with that message deceive the MANY!. and how many “kinds” of christians are there — some say 40,000 varieties . Is that not total confusion??

          Christ also said the following: 17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

          Christ came not to destroy the Law but to — “fill to the full” — THE TORAH and so called Christianity teaches HE came to destroy the Law —- thus calling Christ a liar!

          And Max you speak against me for following the exact WAY of Jesus Christ, Christ lived a perfect life and we are to follow HIS perfect lawful example —

          So called christianity hates the Holy Law of God

          • maxwell

            …Seeker…we went through all this a year ago…Christ IS my Sabbath.

            –” Max have you rejected the clear statement of Christ that NONE can come to Christ unless the Father first draws them?? That statement means it is not up to the person, it is up to the Father whether or not one is called in this present age.”

            …So, seeker…In this statement you disparage my own mature faith… That’s the way to do it, son.

            –”Max you like all the so called christians reject the very pointed and clear doctrine Christ taught during His 3 1/2 years, Like this one “Why call you ME LORD LORD and not DO the things I say?”
            …I am In Christ and do all the things he says I should. All of your ritual is only for yourself and your exalted self appraisal.

            –”Christ also said the following: 17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.”

            …What do you think this means? To me, it means that in the body of Christ is ALL the LAW…He fulfills the LAW in us. like I’ve said to you a hundred times…Jesus the Anointed, the Christ…Is my Sabbath, and every DAY belongs to HIM and NO ritual of Man’s RELIGION…your religion, is not fulfilled…completely..in Him.
            .. So, i believe in my CHRISTIAN heart, that all of your earthly ritual is an abomination before Christ.
            …Christ taught me that some will come and try to lure my heart, away from Him, and put a lot of useless and redundant, traditions and ritual, in HIS place. You cannot convince me that you have anybody’s welfare in your mind but your own…I don’t really trust you…I suppose. You believe you know what’s in a man’s heart. You’re deluded, about that…Judgmental, and merciless.

            …I don’t believe that you are aware of the actual role that Christ is playing in these end times…He is YHVH…you know that, right?

            …Oh and thanks for the indecipherable info on the Sabbath…

          • Truthseeker

            maxwell?

            “Christ is ‘my’ Sabbath” ??????

            This, max, is a great example of your own invented doctrine.

            Without twisting scripture please make the case that Christ is the Sabbath and all days are now Holy to God.

            You can no do so – because it is not true.

            When Christ returns HE will bring the 7th day of rest to earth.

            From Adam to the return of Christ there have been 6000 years i.e. 6 – 1000 year days, a day is as 1000 years to God.

            The 1000 year reign of Christ on earth is the 7th day of rest promised from the beginning.

            8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of —- another — day.

            9 There remaineth therefore a – rest — to the people of God.

            Max this is the “REST” Christ will bring to earth at HIS return. The 1000 years of HIS rule as KING of kings is the Sabbath of rest promised from day one. There will be no sin on earth, we will rest from the burdens cause by SIN which is the transgression of HE LAW.

            Max it is all in the WORD of GOD, have you noticed how easy it is to make a valid case for the TRUTH?

            by the way that word “rest” in verse 9 is SABBATH

            Strong’s Concordance
            sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
            Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
            Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
            Transliteration: sabbatismos
            Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos’)
            Short Definition: a Sabbath rest

            Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

          • Truthseeker

            Maxwell

            I am not “legalistic” —- I am a — realist — that demands THE TRUTH.

            I am appalled and sicken at the satanic lies that pass as true doctrine.

            I want no part with the false religions of this evil world.

            As we race toward the return of Christ so called “Christians” will be the persecutors of God’s people;

            The 40,000 flavors of so called christanity hate the TRUTH and will destroy those that hold fast to it.

            For following that “WAY” Christ lived as the example we must follow— many will be slain.

            Broad is the way and wide is the way that leads to destruction.

            Broad and wide are the 40,000 flavors. If this flavor does not tickle your fancy there are 39,999 more to chose from.

          • Truthseeker

            maxwell

            what say you regarding verses 8 & 9? How can you twist them into “Christ is YOUR Sabbath” ???

            Paul states Christ has not brought the Sabbath of rest yet??

            If you are “part of” the People of God then you can not have received the True Sabbath of rest.

            Your doctrine is as confused as are the doctrines of so called christianity

            Max I am not your enemy — but I hate false doctrine and will speak against it until I am stopped.

          • maxwell

            …Seeker… i don’t think you can help yourself…You’re in REALITY… a ZIONIST…Can’t let go of your imaginary superiority, and accept that Christ IS the “complete” manifestation of YHVH.
            …Like I’ve said before, the advent of Jesus Christ was just an ‘addendum’ to your Zionist faith system. His bloody sacrifice was not enough for you…You want to keep beating him like a cur dog.
            …You won’t accept this. You don’t have a mind of your own about it any more.

          • Truthseeker

            maxwell

            Why do you always ignore the huge number of scriptures that completely refute the religion you created from your own mind ?

            We both know the answer don’t we, because they do completely negate your doctrine.

            If you could and if it were possible you would have used scriptures to silence me, but there are no scriptures that even sort of or kind of confirm the confusion in your mind..

          • maxwell

            …seeker…You wrote…”Max I am not your enemy — but I hate false doctrine and will speak against it until I am stopped.”
            …You’re playing the part of the Kenite scribes in Jerusalem when Christ walked there. Trying to convince whomever you can that it is not the “heart” of a man that’s important, but the “outwardly conspicuous” actions (traditions) he may display that are.

            How to become a Christian

            “I am the way, the truth and the life:
            no man cometh unto the Father but by me”. John 14:6

            1. KNOW that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
            2. UNDERSTAND the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23
            3. CONFESS that Jesus Christ is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. Romans 10:9
            4. REPENT of your sins Luke 13:3
            5. READ and STUDY God’s Word to show yourself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15
            6. PUT ON the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:11
            7. BEWARE of the son of perdition who is coming first disguised as Jesus to oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or worshipped. 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4
            8. WATCH until the true Christ returns. Luke 12:37 Remain as a chaste virgin waiting for her true husband. 2 Corinthians 11:2

            …Seeker…Don’t let your arrogance, (well deserved, I am sure) get in the way of sharing whats really most important…It is not TRADITIONS…Its way past that.
            …I think your attitude is preventing you from really being able to be helpful to anybody. Sooner or later a man has got to realize his understanding is just one man’s viewpoint…Not the whole story…(nobody is that arrogant…right?)
            …You can walk around with your nose in the air for the rest of whatever time we’ve got…If you don’t want free born, blood of the lamb, Christians in your community. Move to Israel. They worship tradition there, too.

          • maxwell

            …seeker…”Why do you always ignore the huge number of scriptures that completely refute the religion you created from your own mind ?

            ….All I can tell you my zionist buddy, is what i know first hand from Jesus Christ. I am in the body of Christ…been part of the body of Christ most of my life.
            … Been through several cults, including the catholic church, church of Christ, and several you wouldn’t recognize. The most recent one was the UFO cult that killed themselves out in California. Never found a shred of truth in any of them…
            …I died. I’m back. I am not part of your cult, either… you can’t tell me you know anything about my Savior, the Lord God YHVH. In my view, you don’t.
            I hope that you find spiritual freedom, from the earthly traditions that you have placed in Christ’s space. Internalize your dedication and devotion, and stop with the “sacrifice for show”…Just who ‘on earth’ do you think you can impress with your traditions? Your “church”? “Looky daddy,…”….

          • maxwell

            …truthseeker…I’m going to keep on telling my hungry children that as long as they, each one, BELIEVES that Jesus Christ, the son of God, came to save him, personally, from the devil’s lies…that he’s got a place in heaven. With YHVH. Its true you know. None of your EXCLUSIONARY interpretations work.

  • Deputy Dawg

    THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD YAHWEH, THERE IS NO OTHER! The “Trinity doctrine” is intentionally designed to demean God Yahweh by reducing Him to that of his own creation. Like the universe and mankind, Jesus, God’s first begotten son was created by God with a specific purpose and timing in mind. Christ;s creation played an intricate role in His miraculous plan for men on earth. Unlike the rest of us Jesus was intentionally created to be a perfect man, an unblemished man necessary for the sacrifice God had planned.

    Jesus was the perfect, unblemished Lamb whose blood spilled during crucifixion would make obsolete the Levitical system that required animal sacrifice, the high priest petitioning for sin and the mercy seat. His blood was in fulfillment or of what had happened during the final plague God imposed on the Egyptian people and the Pharaoh. God’s people were told to sacrifice a perfect lamb, eat of it and paint it’s blood on their doorways. By doing this all were spared the wrath of God! This was symbolic of what was later to come through Christ. When God’s plan reached the point where He would descend His Spirit to reside within man it was necessary for Him to then initiate a more personal way for man come to Him in repentance of their sin. Because God will not reside in sin man must remain in a constant state of repentance, through Christ this is made possible. If you accept and consequently worship a false depiction of God and His Son Jesus Christ you are worshiping an imposter and are guilty of spiritual adultery or idolatry. The trinity doctrine is just that, a false depiction of both God and his son.

    • maxwell

      …amonibus…sounds to me like you are espousing a trinity. You separate the identity of YHVH and Christ. You’d have to add a “Holy Spirit”, that they both share…that makes your ‘trinity’. Christ is Emmanuel…”YHVH with us”…one identity.

  • Dave 1963

    I consider the false “rapture” theology to be the most dangerous. This doctrine of men is found in the commentary section of a Scofield Reference. Look at the bottom of the page from Genesis: 12-32. It has lead to Zionism and the creation of modern Israel. Which in turn has destabilized the planet for decades.

    Satan believes that Christ is real, he just doesn’t do, think, or say any of the things Christ says he should do. Many Christians don’t either.

    • maxwell

      …dave..finding literate people is difficult…finding scriptural literacy is nearly impossible. This is ‘because’ of the churches, as they have developed in the modern western world. Fired by ‘blind faith’, and fueled by the traditions of men.

      …You might find one sometime that teaches the bible…chapter by chapter, verse by verse…if you do, pay attention. Common sense may be coming your way.

      • Dave 1963

        I have found one. I have learned a lot. I found that Christ was accurate when he said “seek and ye shall find”.
        To me the core message is the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I find as I work toward being the person the Beatitudes describe my burden is far lighter. His yoke really is pretty light compared to the darkness of my past.

        • maxwell

          …dave…God bless you. Yes, the yoke is light. We know more every minute.

  • Canderson

    I say this about Christianity, It gave us moral standard, there are more than 1500 versions of it, if it makes you a better person then it is the right thing for you personally, as in integrity. Not as a stupid herd of cattle (sheeple), because it is a very dangerous thing, they the enemy calls it populism when it goes against them, even if it is many individuals (integrity) that chooses to work in the same direction, not only follow a puppet leader. We are the hand on the shoulder, that hand on his back, the flame under the Donald’s ass sort of, that is how I describe it anyway.

  • CTrent33

    Isaiah 48:16-17 “Come ye near unto me, and hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: from the time before it was done, I was there, and now the Lord God hath sent me, and his spirit. Thus saith the Lord thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: I am the Lord thy God that teach thee profitable things, that govern thee in the way that thou walkest”

    The Lord God = God the Father. His Spirit = God the Holy Ghost(or Spirit.) Lord thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel = God the Son (Jesus.)

    Matthew 28:19 “Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

    John 14: 26 “But THE PARACLETE, THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, HE will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.”

    John 16:12-13 “I have yet many things to say to you: but you cannot bear them now. But WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, is come, HE will teach you all truth. For HE shall not speak of himself; but what things soever HE shall hear, HE shall speak; and the things that are to come, HE shall shew you.”

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