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September Surprise --- Could it Be --- The Midst of the Week!

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Midst Of The Week
(The Abomination of Desolation)

Most people that I talk with seem to be very confused about exactly what happens at the Midst of the Week which is the middle of the 7 year tribulation and is the beginning of the Great Tribulation referred to by Christ. I fear that what happens in the midst of the week will be a large part of what causes the Falling Away mentioned in 2Th 2:3. People are not prepared for what is going to happen. And they do not realize how important it is for them to know what is actually going to happen. It is in the Scriptures for a reason, so that we know what to anticipate and as a witness unto all the nations. This is why I felt it was so important to show people exactly what will happen according to prophecy during this time period. Please read this whole chapter and consider what it is saying.

The Abomination of Desolation

Let’s take a look at just exactly what the abomination of desolation would be and exactly what happens at the midst of the week. We will start with the Hebrew word for abomination:

shiqquts

From Strong’s Hebrew definitions H8262; disgusting, that is, filthy; especially idolatrous or (concretely) an idol: - abominable filth (idol, -ation), detestable (thing).

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

In Daniel 11:31 and 12:11 it is clear that the abomination is placed or setup and in Mathew 24:15 and Mark 13:14 it says it stands in the holy place or where it ought not. This indicates it is an inanimate object (idol, statue, image) not a person and it could possibly be the image to the beast mentioned in Revelation 13. Biblical reference indicates that any part of the Temple Mount including the Wailing Wall could be considered a Holy Place.

The following verses are a list of all the events that happen at the midst of the week. I think you the reader will be very surprised with what this list reveals because it is something that is not being taught in most end time doctrines. The list is laid out in outline form with the point of each item and then the confirming verses. To emphasize the content and relation between verses I have used color, bold, underline and highlight effects.

Midst of the Week Events:

The following list is a combination of all the scriptures that talk about the events that take place during the Midst of the Week

  1. Causes the Sacrifice (zebach) and the Oblation (minchah) to cease and the Abomination makes it Desolate.

    Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall *cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
    (*this could be the daily prayer at the Temple Mount Western Wall taken away)

  2. Places the Abomination of Desolation. Those with understanding Flee Judaea

    Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

    Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

    Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
    Luk 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

    Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

  3. The Anti-Christ (Beast) is given power 42 months.

    Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

  4. The outer court of the Temple and the Holy City (Jerusalem) is GIVEN to the Gentiles to tread under foot 42 months.

    Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
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    Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

  5. The 2 Witnesses are given power and they prophesy 1260 days (42 months)

    Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
     

  6. The 4th Seal as laid out in the spreadsheet Seals, Trumps, and Vials
     

    Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

    Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

    Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

An interesting point is that the Hebrew word kanaph translated to the word overspreading in Daniel 9:27 KJV can also mean a quarter of the Earth that he shall make desolate which matches the events of the 4thSeal where power is given to Death and Hell over the forth part of the Earth to kill. Rev. 6:7-8 This appears to happens shortly after the midst of the week.

kanaph

From Strong’s Hebrew definitions H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: - + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).

All that I am saying is there could be a correlation here between the 4thSeal and Daniel 9:27…

So far our outline gives us this list of items:

Midst of the Week Events

1. Causes the Sacrifice (zebach) and the Oblation (minchah) to cease

2. Places the Abomination of Desolation

3. The Anti-Christ (Beast) is given power 42 months

4. The outer court and the Holy City (Jerusalem) is GIVEN to the Gentiles for 42 months

5. The 2 Witnesses given power and they prophesy 1260 days (42 months)

6. The 4thSeal as laid out in the spreadsheet Seals, Trumps, and Vials
(
Based on the Mathew 24 Parallel to the Seals of Revelation)

According to Mathew 24:21, once the Abomination of Desolation is placed in the midst of the week then the Great Tribulation starts, which is the 2ndhalf of the 7 year tribulation. All of the time periods mention in the above list 42 months, 1260 days all equal this 3.5 years of indignation which is the Great Tribulation. The bad news which I intentionally placed last to stress the importance is item number 8 of this list.

7.  Israel looses the war that allows Jerusalem to be given to the Gentiles for 42 months

Most Christians do not realize this is what will happen and when they see Israel fall and there has been no Rapture it may very well shake their faith. This event could be part of what causes the great falling away because it will appear that the Muslims have defeated the Jews. This is confirmed in the book of Joel which is focused on the end time prophecy of this time period.

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring AGAIN the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

Jesus calls this time period The Great Tribulation.

In the following list the scriptures will detail and prove item 7 to be correct.

A. Prevails Against Them - Time and Times and the Dividing of Time (3.5 years)

Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

B. He Shall Destroy the Mighty and the Holy People.

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

C. When They Place the Abomination of Desolation They Shall Fall by the Sword to the Time of the End, Till the Indignation be Accomplished

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Dan 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

D. For These be the Days of Vengeance - They Shall Fall by the Sword - Jerusalem is Trodden Down – Until The Times of the Gentiles be Fulfilled

Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luk 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Luk 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

E. The outer court and the Holy City (Jerusalem) is GIVEN to the Gentiles for 42 months

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

The point of the yellow highlight here is that in Luke 21:24 Jerusalem is trodden down by and Gentiles and in Revelation the outer court and the Holy City is tread under foot by the Gentiles which leads me to believe these are the same events. And that the time of the Gentiles is the final 3.5 years of the 7 year tribulation event known as the Great tribulation.
 

F. The Beast Makes War with the Saints, and Overcomes Them has Power for 42 months

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

All the Events that happen at the Midst of the Week

1. Causes the Sacrifice (zebach) and the Oblation (minchah) to cease

2. Places the Abomination of Desolation

3. The Anti-Christ (Beast) is given power 42 months

4. The outer court and the Holy City (Jerusalem) is GIVEN to the Gentiles for 42 months

5. The 2 Witnesses given power and they prophesy 1260 days (42 months)

6. The 4thSeal as laid out in the spreadsheet Seals, Trumps, and Vials
(
Based on the Mathew 24 Parallel to the Seals of Revelation)

7.  Israel looses the war that allows Jerusalem to be given to the Gentiles for 42 months.  At the Midst of the Week Israel Will Be Overcome, Fall by the Sword and once again Go into Captivity!

A. He Prevails Against Them - Time and Times and the Dividing of Time (3.5 years)

B. He Shall Destroy the Mighty and the Holy People.

C. When They Place the Abomination of Desolation They Shall Fall by the Sword to the Time of the End

D. For These be the Days of Vengeance - They Shall Fall by the Sword - Jerusalem is Trodden Down - Until The Times of the Gentiles be Fulfilled

E. The outer court and the Holy City (Jerusalem) is GIVEN to the Gentiles for 42 Months to Tread Under Foot

F. The Beast Makes War with the Saints, and Overcomes Them has Power for 42 Months

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring AGAIN the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

I think we can safely say there will be no mistake in recognizing the Midst of the Week and the Abomination of Desolation because at that time Israel will fall by the sword and Jerusalem will be lost to the Gentiles for 3.5 years (The Great Tribulation).

Of course this is not without Israel putting up a good fight (for 30 days) which will more than likely be the event that causes Tyre to become a wasteland and Damascus to become a ruinous heap. This would fulfill the prophecies of Isaiah chapters 17 and 23. This also appears to be the time when the 4thSeal is opened Rev. 6:7-8 and the Pale Horse rides which conclude with a 4thpart of the world being killed which also appears to be part of the Desolations after the midst of the week.

Once these events happen or begin there will be 3.5 years of the indignation of the Great Tribulation and the control of the Beast/Anti-Christ. For many he will appear to be a savior because he will be able to offer commerce, food and protection if you take the Mark of the Beast. This will be one of the methods the enemy will use to deceive the people.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

All of the information that we have been giving about the mid-point of the tribulation seems to make clear three very important things. And I believe all of this information is for us and is further proof that we Christians will be here to see these things…

1. When we see these things we will know exactly where we are in the tribulation timeline…
2. When we see these things we will know what to do if we have prepared…
3. We are given this much concise information about the mid-point event because there is not enough concise information about the beginning of the 7 years to be sure it has begun.

True, there is NOT enough information to know exactly when the abomination of desolation will take place… BUT… we will clearly know when it does take place.

All that I can say is prepare, prepare, prepare - mentally, spiritually and physically.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Refuge:

Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

This verse is clearly speaking of the Resurrection/Rapture in the future that take place during the time spoken of in Rev. 20:4-6, Mat 24:31, Mark 13:27, 1Thes 4:16-17 and 1Cor 15:51-52.

Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

This scripture is telling us in typical Hebrew fashion that before the Resurrection/Rapture takes place that we should hide ourselves till the indignation is completed.

Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Again in typical Hebrew fashion this verse is telling us that the day of the Lord and the Resurrection/Rapture are the same day which is just one day of the Lords wrath that happens at the end of the indignation. This is the wrath spoken of in 1Thes 5:9 that we are not appointed to be part of because we are Resurrected/Raptured out as that day begins.

Then Dan 11:31-36 indicates that the indignation will be from the time the Abomination of Desolation is placed till the time of the end. This time period is the Great Tribulation that last 3.5 years, 42 months, 1260 days.

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify

himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall

prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

If the scriptures are clearly telling us that the Great Tribulation (3.5 years of indignation) are coming, that we will not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast, and that it is our responsibility to enter our chambers, shut our doors and hide ourselves, then we must recognize that to be obedient to God’s word during this time period we have to make all effort to prepare a safe place, food storage and necessities for that time period. Once we have been obedient to do all that we can physically do then I believe that God will do the rest because we took the steps of faith to be obedient to his word, much like Noah’s obedience to build the ark.

Obedience is the Key

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
 

Zep 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD’S anger.

Maybe all of these preppers you hear about have got it right and they are on to something!!

For more on the timing of the Midst of the Week Click Here

May our Lord Jesus richly bless you when you take the steps of faith and help you prepare for what is coming.



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    • goastdale

      …70 weeks is over!!…..Jesus ALREADY RETURNED FOR THE “2ND” AND LAST TIME……..There are no more comings of Jesus and the day of the lord does not last for 24 hours!?!…….

      Even Islamic theology is waiting for the second coming of Christ but this is also how we know slam dunk that Muhammad was a false teacher…just like most “bible teaching Christians”…….THE SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)…….Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES……. It is a biblical fact according to the bibles own figures that last days are the last 70 years of the number of years between BC596…to AD70 = 666 yrs the period of time outlined once as a MAN and once as a BEAST in Daniel Ch 2 & 7 respectively .as the time the 7 fold (7 seals/trumps vials) curse of the law of Moses was poured out on the physical seed of Israel purified until only a spiritual seed was left…

      Gal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

      The book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most “Personally” given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?….There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”………………

      Revelation the First Gospel of the Kingdom
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (ISBN)

      Those looking for a physical return of Christ and your physical body to “leave the dirt” resurrected (1Cor 15:36-37) you are carnal mined & or living in prov 26:12

      DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly

      The second coming took place already and Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)

      22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)

      REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There is a parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.

      The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong

      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069 Revelation The First Gospel of The Kingdom

      or

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom

      or

      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM

      978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

      • Psp

        Goatsdale i would be careful with some of the unbiblical doctrine you have in your stickied reply! “Jesus has already come back for the 2nd time”. Really? I dont know what makes you think that. You know there are false prophets that know they are trying to deceive and those whom themselves are deceived? God does t take to kind to either so best be careful what you preach! Very very extremely dangerous!

        • Gus Fung

          Goatsdale is but a wolf pretending to be a shepherd Psp.

          Can you believe the depths a man will reach to pull others down?

          His free reign and proliferation here should be carefully considered.

          • GUNNY

            “…Goatsdale is but a wolf pretending to be a shepherd…”

            :?: :?: :?:

            More like a chihuahua with brain damage sustained when the FedEx truck he was chasing accidentally backed over him.

          • The Clucker

            He does seem to have free reign. Despite multiple pleas to the staff and an endless stream of clicks to the spam button he still remains immune to any sort of reprimand whatsoever. I really wouldn’t mind if he could sum up his gibberish is a paragraph, but scrolling through a wall of text is getting really old on every single article.

            Someone else here used to do that who coincidentally disappeared around the same time. I believe he called himself ExposeTheTruth or something like that. This person seems to have a different message altogether though.

            Hail the Flying Slice in the Sky!

            • GUNNY

              “Hail the Flying Slice in the Sky!”

              The only other place I ever saw flying pizza was in Breaking Bad.

    • Truthseeker

      j light

      the return of Jesus Christ occurs on a Feast of Trumpets.

      the time of the end is a 7 year period.

      as Christ returns on a Feast of Trumpet the 7 years must begin on a Feast of Trumpets

      The middle of the week i.e. of the 7 years – falls at Passover season: stating at the 7th month and going out 6 months lands on the 1st month

      the middle of 7 years (3 1/2 years) beginning at 7/1 falls on 1/1

      The abomination will take place at the time of the Passover in the month of Nisan

      the first resurrection takes place the Day Christ return to earth as KING of kings and that day is the Feast of blowing of Trumpets.

      Every important event in God’s Plan of Salvation takes place on a Feast Day.

      It is easy to prove Christ was born on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacle, 7/15 and was circumcised on the 8th day which would then fall on the 7th and last of the 7 Holy Feasts of God each year which is the “Last Great Day” which is on the 22nd of the 7th month.

      was He not sacrificed on Passover which occurred at midweek, our Wednesday, the 14th day of the first month and was the Church not begun on a Feast of Pentecost?

      There is no rapture only resurrections

    • Eli the Enduring

      I think the Great Sign in Heaven will accompany the fall of Satan to begin the Great Tribulation. I also think there is already an abomination standing on the Temple Mount. I also think the rapture will be prior to the fall of Satan. Only Christians with a good relationship with Christ will be raptured. Those with a poor relationship (He spits them out, etc.) are still saved to His Father but they are not of the Bride. They will become martyrs. I think we should watch to see who visits the Temple Mount around the time of the Sign. There is no eternal Lake of Fire btw. The wages of sin is death. The final 2nd death. After the Judgement at the Great White Throne the Lake of Fire will have no use as ALL sin will have been expunged from the Lord my God’s Kingdoms. God has no evil in Him. Trust God and remember death is not final. Also remember, dogma was what kept the Pharisee’s from finding Grace. Let Jesus judge, using Christianity as a weapon is not the Love that Jesus taught.

    • Anonymous

      God wants peace.

      God wants war.

      God wants famine.

      God wants chain stores.

      Roger Waters from “Amused To Death”.

      • b4

        dont you just love it when the bible thumpers fight among themselves to who has the best bullshit! and god looks at them all,shakes his head,”nut jobs”,and finishes his beer….

        • The Clucker

          Someone who hates God, yet feels the need to often post on religious articles…

          So do you not have anything you like or enjoy that you can post about here or elsewhere, or are you just that negative of a person? For example, I’m not a Buddhist, so I don’t go to forums or sites where Buddhists congregate just for the sake of crapping all over whatever they want to talk about. Last time I checked, that’s just called 1) being a negative d*ck who probably has no life or 2) just has nothing better to do.

          Which one of those two things is it for you? Unless of course you choose to go with option 3 and pretend you’re enlightening us “Bibletards.” :lol:

          I doubt I could be enlightened by a guy that can’t even find the shift key, despite the fact that there is one on either side of the keyboard and are quite large compared to the others. Can you not find it or are you really that lazy :?:

      • The Clucker

        Brother Mitch, God does not want war and famine. He gives us free choice so those things are of our own making. If we would have always followed his law and statutes then those things would not have a part in this world. I use to like Roger Waters because of many of his lyrics and music, but lately he has just proven himself to be another liberal douche that would rather focus on his politics than providing good music. He’s currently “Kathy Griffin-ing” what’s left of his career. It’s a damn shame because he was so close to the end, too.

        I’m not sure how God feels about ALL chain stores.

        http://www.christianheadlines.com/news/5-things-christians-need-to-know-about-chick-fil-a-founder-truett-cathy.html

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