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Who Is the Queen of Heaven? Mystery Babylon Solved!

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THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN The Mother of Harlots; The Whore of Babylon

“Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD’S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.

Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.” (Jeremiah 51: 6-7 KJV Holy Bible)

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“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.” (Revelation 18: 4–8 KJV Holy Bible)


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    • Light In The Dark Place

      :arrow: Follow up article:

      The Statue of Liberty or Slavery? Introducing: The Mother of Exiles
      /alternative/2017/04/the-statue-of-liberty-or-slavery-introducing-the-mother-of-exiles-3500004.html

    • CTrent33

      Enough of your blasphemy stories, heretical teachings. The real Queen of Heaven is the highest Daughter of the God the Father, Mother of God the Son and Spouse of God the Holy Ghost. She is the Virgin Mary. Anything else is a satanic mockery and you cannot lump them in together.

      • b4

        hey ttrent–you and the unholy ghost are both insane–you guys should get married or at least have a hot sex affair

        • Black Humor

          Locking these guys up in the same cell would be entertainment, distasteful admittably, but entertainment nevertheless. :cool:

          • CTrent33

            You degenerates are going to be in a cell… for eternity.

        • CTrent33

          Poor soul, so full of perversion.

      • Sean

        You’re right CTrent33 its The Virgin Mary

        This THGW is most likely Lyn/Mike, Liea Haven or Lavender Rose, Live Free or Die, etc.. like the MSM there is no such thing as an Alternative Media

      • jknbt

        see reply to Daughter of the Church below following

    • goastdale

      It is a biblical fact according to the bibles own figures that last days are the last 70 years of the number of years between BC596…to AD70 = 666 yrs the period of time outlined once as a MAN and once as a BEAST in Daniel Ch 2 & 7 respectively .as the time the 7 fold (7 seals/trumps vials) curse of the law of Moses was poured out on the physical seed of Israel purified until only a spiritual seed was left…

      This is also how we know slam dunk that Muhammad was a false teacher…just like most “bible teaching Christians”…….THE SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)…….Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.

      Gal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

      The book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most “Personally” given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?….There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”………………

      Revelation the First Gospel of the Kingdom
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (ISBN)

      Those looking for a physical return of Christ and your physical body to “leave the dirt” resurrected (1Cor 15:36-37) you are carnal mined & or living in prov 26:12

      DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly

      The second coming took place already and Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)

      22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)

      REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There is a parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.

      The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom

      or

      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM

      978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

      • b4

        more bullshit from the insane one..goatsdick,the agent of satan straight from the gates of hell

    • jknbt

      The Harlot is the Catholic Church. What is so wrong with catholicism? The harlotry goes back to compromises that entered into the church during the time of imperial persecution that were institutionalized when Christianity became legal. One of the biggest compromises is the use of idols, icons, and religious statues. Every catholic church in the world has a collection of these.

      The biggest compromise is that the roman salvation plan depends on the marriage of grace plus human works. The catholics misread the injunctions in James chapt. 2 to have lots of fruitful results and evidences of the favor of God in your life. This is all about results of grace, not the conditions of salvation. Paul said plainly in Galatians 5:4 that anyone who approaches God on the basis of the merit of their legalistic good works is SEVERED from Christ and has fallen from grace. This means that you works salvation catholics out there do not have saving faith and are not accepted by God. Repent if you just caught what I said.

      For more detail on what exactly is wrong with catholicism, get a copy of The Gospel According to Rome: Comparing Catholic Tradition and the Word of God Paperback by James G. McCarthy.

      the harlot of Rev 17 & 18 is the catholic church which includes the romans, eastern orthodox, & oriental orthodox. All true born again Christians who mean business serving God have been called to come out of her and be separate. God will judge the Roman Catholics in particular by allowing the islamicists to burn Rome with a nuclear bomb rev 18:9-18…the catholics in iraq, syria, and turkey have always had an uneasy truce with islam…that’s why the harlot is characterized by riding on the back of the beast (Islam)…

      the harlot of rev 17-18 is the roman catholic church and the city of Rome in particular…Reasons why true:

      Rev 17:
      verse
      1…………port city on many waters indicates a gentile world wide organization
      3-4………purple color of bishops, scarlet color of cardinals
      4…………call the pope & priests Father, a title reserved for the Heavenly Father only, blasphemy
      4…………rich ornamentation of the Vatican and cathedrals, pearls, gold, precious stones
      4………..cup in hand….golden chalices with pearls for communion wine
      4………..abominations, fornications, filthiness….whole lists of compromises since king Constantine legalized Christianity
      5………..there is a name written on the inside of the pope’s hat…this is God’s opinion of it…when the pope puts on his hat, that name is tightly fitting on his forehead
      6………….blood of saints and martyrs….the roman church was the number one killer of born again Christians until recent days with the persecutions in the middle east…how many died in the inquisition? in the religious wars of Europe where so called Christian kings tried to force protestant nations back into the church?
      8………..the beast is revived Rome
      9………….seven hills…the original city of Rome built on 7 hills
      10……….the kings are john’s version of the metal man in Daniel 9….the king that is presently is the EU
      11-13……the 8th king is the mahdi Muslim messiah who will rule the Sunni 10 nation confederacy
      14……….Jesus will defeat the Muslim hoards as in Rev 19
      15……..the harlot is a world wide organization, another indication of the roman church
      16-17……the mahdi and friends will persecute the roman church
      18………the harlot is a great city, Rome
      chapter 18
      verse
      2,,,,,,,,,,,,the city is named Babylon….see 1 Pet 5:13….Babylon is a code word for Rome, peter finished his ministry in Rome, not in Iraq
      3-19…..judgment on Rome, ruined in a day…judgment on the economy also…fire, burning, and smoke indicate a nuclear detonation
      20-24…..more judgment on the economy…
      the judgment of Rome and the roman church causes great rejoicing in heaven, Rev 19:

      God presents the true bride, his holy church, in heaven….Rev 19: 7-9

      the Catholics should take this seriously and start moving their great art treasures up into caves in the alps…

      • james amen

        dear jknbt:

        most of your analysis is right; however, please allow me to refine it a bit:
        your words: ’8..the beast is revived Rome’ : true
        ’9..seven hills the original city of Rome : true
        built on 7 hills
        ’18.the harlot is a great city, Rome’ : no

        the harlot is not ‘rome’; but, more specifically, ‘vatican city’.
        there is a slight nuance, a difference; that, otherwise, make these contradict.

        proof: ‘the harlot SITS on the beast’; therefore, they BOTH CANNOT be ‘rome’. this would make no sense; because it would read ‘rome sits on rome’.
        no. the power will be in ‘the vatican’, that controls ‘the beast’; therefore, ‘vatican city’ is REVELATION 17:18.
        BLESSINGS.

        • jknbt

          hmm….a little hairsplitting, which is annoying, but it is nice to think someone is actually reading my stuff…

          Rev 17:18 kjv says: 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

          Rome ruled until Constantine moved the capital to Ravenna and then Constantinople. The only ruling from Rome done today on a world-wide impact basis is done from the Vatican. Nevertheless, people commonly refer to Rome when referring to the Roman Church…everyone understands from context that they are talking about the church, not the capital of modern Italy. A perfect example is my book reference, since the title is “the Gospel According to Rome”, when it should more accurately read, “the Gospel According to the Vatican”. To split the hair any further, you would have to say “the Gospel according the Pope and Magisterium at the Vatican”…..I concede that the actual “ruling” is done from the Vatican.

          Rev 17:3b and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

          My take on this is that the beast is Islam because it has had 7 great ages and 10 great leaders in their history. They are waiting for the coming Caliph. That is why the comment that the catholics have an uneasy co-exisitence type truce with Islam. One of their big leaders was written about in BIN a while back about their plans to rebuild Iraq and to establish a catholic university at Erbil. My bible screams, GET OUT OF BABYLON. These people are bringing destruction on themselves since they will not obey the scripture and evacuate. They should be getting out, not building new catholic universities. God is going to severely judge Islam the Beast in the Tribulation. Jesus does not want these Christians to get hurt in the cross-fire. Nevertheless, the 21 horrific tribulation judgments of Revelation are coming and are focused on the Middle East. If these Christians are still there due to not obeying the prophetic command to leave, they will suffer with the others that the judgments are intended for.

          Did you notice what happened this Easter or Passover? The Turkish legislature granted the dictator President Erdogan more powers than the German legislature granted Hitler in 1933. The office of the Caliph was eliminated in 1924. This amounts to the resurrection of the head that was wounded, see Rev 13:3. This means that Erdogan is the antichrist….or his successor as dictator of Turkey. Time will tell.

          • james amen

            dear jknbt:
            you are doing good thinking along ENDTIMES, but you are making the same errors that christians have made for decades since the theme got ‘energized’ in the 1800s; the problem being that misinterpretations are made when ALL BIBLE PHOPHECIES do not agree with each other. you are doing this regarding your understanding of ‘the beast’.

            you say, “splitting-hairs”..it is NOT “splitting-hairs” because poor BIBLE interpretation is EXACTLY why most christians do not have an ACCURATE clue about THE BIBLE. if accuracy is not absolutely and minutely perfect than there is NO POINT to BIBLE study.

            in BIBLICAL terms, there are HUGE differences between ‘rome’, ‘the vatican’, ‘catholicism’ and any of its other identifiers.
            ‘the beast’ is no different. islam is not the beast; islam is ‘a component of the beast’. here is how you know:
            1] Daniel 2 image. the ‘ten toes’ represent ‘iron and clay’. these are two. distinct components of the final empire. [therefore, it is not islam alone] when ALL BIBLE PHOPHECIES of the beast are taken into consideration; the beast represents 3 simultaneous things: one] the anti-CHRIST, two] the empire that anti-CHRIST leads, three] the false-prophet that is with the anti-CHRIST.

            2] when ALL the ‘empire-beast’ PHOPHECIES are sorted~out, the ‘iron and clay’ becomes clear to understand what they represent. they are the ’10 toes’. half of these ‘toes’ will be of a
            revived roman empire; the other half will be of a ‘muslim confederation’. this is why the vatican is now embracing islam.

            3] the ’7′ that you mentioned are not “7 ages”, but the original greek in REVELATION 17 make it clear that these 7 represent the total 7 empires of earth’s history: egyptian, assyrian,
            babylonian, persian, greek, roman and the final ’10 toes’ empire about to become.

            4] the ’10 toes’ are kings; these are people. they may or may not be equally 50/50 divided, but they will be the leaders of a merger of the eu [as a revived roman empire] and a muslim
            caliphate [likely the northern africa countries and those circling around the mediterranean].
            this is why turkey is so in the front of news now~a~days.

            • jknbt

              well, I salute your zeal…refreshing to find someone in these last days of apostasy who is zealous for the word…

              yes, the daniel metal man image is important to understanding end times prophecy…

              my take on the whole business is “wait and see”….meaning let God be the final interpreter and judge of what the prophecies mean…things are happening so fast to bring about the final events that it is breathtaking…

              The pharisees of N.T. times had it all figured out to the point that they missed God when He, Jesus, showed up on the scene. This was because they were so married to their doctrine that they didn’t have any room for God to do something they weren’t expecting.

              God is working out his own ideas about how the fulfillment of the prophecies should go…all we can do is sit back and say, “oh, that’s what He was talking about” when He does something unexpected. This is a point of spiritual maturity that the N.T. pharisee never grew into.

              So let God be God, and let Him work out all these things as He sees fit. I think all bible prophecy interpreters are going to be a little surprised before it is all over with…perfect example, the replacement theology team…they have been saying since Tertullian that God was finished with the Jews and all the good prophecies concerning Israel now belonged to the church, “spiritual Israel”….hmm, that didn’t rightly tally out when God started moving his jews back to Israel (again according to end-time prophecy) and re-established the nation of Israel. These people still hold on strongly to their doctrine, even though it is obvious that God is working out a different program than they expected. Hopefully the Lord will straighten them out after the second coming.

              So let God be God….have enough room in your system to allow for gentle corrections by the Master’s hand…

            • james amen

              dear jknbt:
              likewise, it is so Refreshing to converse with one who is a true child~of~GOD, and whose words reflect the maturity of THE HOLY SPIRIT’S work in you; which, i can recognize immediately.

              i like all your thoughts; you are so right in your examples.
              there is One consideration that i may put to you.. ENDTIMES and spiritual warfare have been my favorite passions within THE WORD, and over the years, skeptics will use words similar to yours [not that you are a skeptic, but, i mean, words along
              the road of Matthew 24:36, that they Love to quote: "no one knows the day or hour"; of which, i want to vomit everytime i hear somebody utter that].
              to say that “it is Not known” is just not true.
              please let me explain why..
              back in 2013, i endeavored on a major project: having gone through all SCRIPTURE, i extracted ALL of the obvious ENDTIME PROPHECIES [minus the obscure prophecies that really only an ancient, jewish theologian could ferret~out]. when they all were all sorted~out, i put them all in chronological ordre.
              here are just some of my findings:
              1] there are around 334 MAJOR PROPHECIES [not including redundancies]
              2] when all 334 are taken into simultaneous consideration, this time is the FIRST TIME in mankind’s history [that is, between around 2012~to now] that ALL PROPHECIES are visible, in one form or another.
              3] when all PROPHECIES are aligned with all non~BIBLICAL prophecy~sources, they, interestingly, form an [almost] perfect overlap for a ‘window of EXPECTED time’.
              4] that ‘window of EXPECTED time’ also perfectly aligns with JESUS’ WORDS in Matthew 24:32, the ‘parable from the fig tree’; therefore, serving as solid support that Matthew 24:32 is rightly referring to the reestablishment of ISRAEL as a nation.

              conclusions to all my words here:
              ISRAEL:
              2 November 1917 The Balfour Declaration + 100 year = november 2017.
              united nations partition plan for palestine 29 November 1947 + 70 years [BIBLICAL 'generation' identification] = november 2017.
              1948 May 14 David Ben-Gurion proclaims the State of Israel + 70 years [BIBLICAL 'generation' identification] = may 2018.

              JESUS’ WORDS in Matthew 24:34: ‘this generation shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled’.
              this is how, jknbt, you know that you DO KNOW the season of THE LORD’S RETURN:
              1] ALL of the PROPHECIES are NON~REPEATABLE. therefore, this small window~of~time is a ONE TIME IN HISTORY ONLY.
              2] JESUS even says to us in Matthew 24:33, ‘so, when you see all these things, know that it is near’.
              jknbt, this verse proves that THE ENDTIMES ARE NOT “unknowable”; this is a COMMAND from THE LORD to KNOW when HIS RETURN is about to be.
              prayers and blessings to you.

            • jknbt

              I’m not sure what your point is??? Jesus is coming back soon, perhaps this year? Wait and see as I said above…here are some dates when everyone should be especially looking up for God to do something spectacular:

              Tish of Av 1 August Tuesday

              New Year’s Rosh Hashana 21 September Thursday

              Atonement Yom Kippur 30 September Saturday

              Tabernacles Sukkoth 5 October Thursday Friday

              8th day Torah Day 13 October Friday

      • Louis

        Rome is not situated on any of Rome’s Seven Hills. It sits on the far side of the Tiber outside the borders of ancient Rome. Jerusalem however sits on seven hills. As the Book of Apocalypse[se clearly states, the “great harlot” is fake Judaism which has rendered void the Word of God.

        • jknbt

          the catholic church’s official residence in rome, the Vatican, was built on Vatican hill, on of the original 7 hills of rome

          • Louis

            You’re not listening. The Vatican IS NOT situated on any of Rome’s Seven Hills. Look at a map of ancient Rome and see for yourself. The reference is to Jerusalem, which sits on seven hills. You sound like an irrational hated-contorted bigot.

          • jknbt

            more hairsplitting….

            see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome

            “The Vatican Hill (Latin Collis Vaticanus) lying northwest of the Tiber, the Pincian Hill (Latin Mons Pincius), lying to the north, and the Janiculum Hill (Latin Ianiculum), lying to the west, are not counted among the traditional Seven Hills.”

            okey-dokey, vatican hill is NW of the original 7 hills of rome…this doesn’t make any difference to what the scripture says in Rev 17:9 or my brief comment… and the vatican is only about 3-4 miles nw of the colloseum…when the 40 megaton nuclear bomb goes off over the colloseum, the kill zone will be about 40-50 miles radius….aee Rev 18:10 & 18 (again)

            the whole rather consistent list of scriptures in Rev 17 clearly point to Rome, a.k.a. “Babylon”

            stop insulting…insults reflect on you, not me…if you don’t have anything intelligent to say, shut up

    • james amen

      dear jonathan kleck:

      on behalf of ALL my fellow, true born~again christian brothers and sisters in~CHRIST, who may not know their BIBLE well enough, how to or know how to question you, then let this message serve as their voice. for, true born~again christians have been taught for centuries, from 1000s of other true born~again christians, that ELOHIM is the plural~form of GOD [which is THE TRINITY], that THE LORD GOD formed man ‘out of the dust of the earth’ [as a unique being unto and for THE LORD HIMSELF], and fell ONCE [to then be redeemed by JESUS CHRIST].

      now, along you come, and propose to the all who hear you, that ALL those 1000s of other true born~again christians, since JESUS CHRIST, have been wrong; that man was ‘apart of the fallen-angels’.
      if this is what you are claiming, then please answer the following:..for, if you want to propose a belief that opposes what true born~again christians have been taught since JESUS, then you owe these answers to the following questions. if you are genuine, then you should not fear answering questions right here.. NOT deferring anybody to your videos,.. but, rather, answering these questions,.. right here,..please..

      if what you are claiming is right, then you are saying that man FELL, not ONCE, but TWICE: [FIRST, as a fallen-angel (this would
      be their FIRST rebellion, and FALL)]; and, then, upon being beguiled by satan in the garden (this would be their SECOND rebellion, and FALL).
      do we have this information from you correct? [question #1]

      if adam and eve were fallen-angels, then they MUST have been ‘uprighted’, as you say, since they ‘walked with GOD in the garden’.
      how did this first ‘uprighting’ occur? [question #2]
      once adam and eve were ‘uprighted’, then they became ‘turned-back-upside-down again’, a SECOND TIME by satan.
      so, now you claim, that it ALL needs to be ‘uprighted’, yet, again.. ok,..now, please answer this,..

      if you claim that even after adam and eve were somehow ‘uprighted’ [having been fallen-angels first], and got ‘turned-back-upside-down’, then what is to say that once a person is ‘born~again’ that they cannot be ‘turned-back-upside-down’ yet ONCE AGAIN?! [question #3]

      there are three, separate questions in this message, and, again, on behalf of ALL fellow, true born~again christian brothers and sisters in~CHRIST, you owe these answers to these questions, right here.. NOT deferring them to your videos,.. these questions, answered.. right here,..please.

      if you are genuinely promoting what you believe to be from JESUS CHRIST, then you should not have ANY fear addressing these
      specific questions, right here.

      my prayers for you that you have truthful, genuine answers to these 3 questions; [for, i know that all your Isaiah 29:15~16 revelation ['Peter's basilica'] is 100% accurate; but that “man is apart of the ‘fallen-angels’” is just NOT convincing], and that, indeed, there is FULL DIVINE inspiration in ALL your revelation.

      • b4

        hey dude –i just checked with jesus and almighty heavenly father–i have a direct line to both since i too once died and went to the other side–docs said i was dead for 23 minutes–it seemed like three life times–it is a one hellva experience but trying to explain it to you bible nut jobs is like trying to explain the taste of salt to somebody who has never tasted salt! i digress…all you fools get on here and talk your bullshit like as knowing god is a mind experience–like memorizing scripture and quoting it all the time–dont mean a thing–you james amen–pure bullshit you wrote–does not mean a thing to jesus–just your own little stupid mind trip probably fueled by your own ego,the devils playground–yeah the catholic church was/is the devils church but that does not mean the faithful are of the devil–all churches in themselves are not where god likes to hang out–note jesus was very anti-religious and it got him killed–but in reality god does not care–his realm is not of the human experience–god is a grown up adult and we are little 2 yos in the spiritual world–god has no wrath,judgement–that is a human shit pile that idiots like all of the above show how immature,petty they are,hateful and judgemental..control freaks with very weak ties to god–god does not read the bible–never has–never will–god did not write it either–some immature primitive dudes in a cave wrote it–inspired by satan..not god–humans have zero ability to understand god–they are too petty,immature,hateful and judgemental–just read all the bullshit posted by bible thumpers if you want proof–but take heart you fools–salvation is for all or hell would already be full with bible thumpers,christians because of their evil judgemental ways

        • james amen

          dear b4:

          one last time, i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be
          healed.
          i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE
          LORD JESUS CHRIST.

          you are seen consistently, throughout beforeitsnews, on christian~related articles spewing your god-hate and other hate-speech.
          you constantly use words as “hateful,judgemental”, obviously revealing yourself, and your
          demom-possession.
          please stop your anti-BIBLE and christian falsehoods.

          you need JESUS CHRIST to heal you.
          BE lovingly WARNED! Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.

          if i see any of your false-BIBLE and false-christian diatribes one more time, not only will i ‘shake the dust of my feet against you; as a testimony against you’, but i will command that you be muted in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

          PLEASE DO NOT make me do that; nor make THE LORD honor that command.

          • b4

            go to hell asshole–oh,your already there you arrogant jerk–your full of devil shit and that is why you write the way you do–your nothing but a true bible thumper nut job-but god still loves you–i dont–yeah your right i am judgemental on all you f up bible thumpers–you make me sick–the bible is inspired by satan and holds no water with me you fool

            • james amen

              be muted from public view in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

            • Mayhem

              How many have you muted in the name of Jesus, james amen, and how is it that b4′s contribution is still in the public view?

              I have it 4 mutings and counting :lol:

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Uh oh.

              We haven’t heard from him all day.

              James Amen didn’t whack out little bee-four, did he?

    • Daughter of the Church

      This piece is one more misguided teaching against the Blessed Virgin Mary. So there we go again:

      A. Mary was and remained the Virgin announced in the Old Testament. She cannot be “The Mother of Harlots”.
      B. Mary is the mother of God’s Christ. Since “Babylon” is the mortal enemy of Jesus Christ, His mother cannot be “The Whore of Babylon”
      C. Mary was humble and remained humble in spite of her glorious but sorrowful life and works while on earth, which works surpassed holy women such as Rachel, Esther etc of the Old Testament. If the Holy Trinity, one God, elevated Mary the Blessed Virgin to the highest place next to God above all the angels and men, then it is must to venerate her as such, unless one challenges God’s wisdom.

      • Daughter of the Church

        Mary the Blessed Virgin, has been elevated by God since the beginning: Ecclus. 24, 14-16 “From the beginning, and before the world, was I created, and unto the world to come, I shall not cease to be, and in the holy dwelling-place I ministered before Him. And so was I established in Sion, and in the holy city likewise I rested, and my power was in Jerusalem.And I took root in an honorable people, and my abode is in the full assembly of saints”.

        This is just an example, because the entire Old Testament speaks of the Blessed Virgin, who is the New Eve and therefore, mother of all men.
        Mary the Blessed Virgin has been made a powerful queen to intercede for us towards Almighty God. Do you remember the Commandment “Thy shalt not call the Lord thy God in vain”? This is why Mary, the first worshiper of God must be venerated, that in order for her to be our Advocate.
        Mary is prayed mainly through the Holy Rosary, which consists of fifteen mysteries (forget about the latest sabotage made by anti-Pope John Paul II). Those fifteen mysteries represent the mother/son union. The 153 Hail Mary’s of the complete psalter (the Rosary) were told in a prophetic way in John 21.

        Johnathan Kleck may be a savant in occult symbols, but he shows his own limitation through circular thinking, and is currently incapable to elevate his thinking towards an incomprehensible God. This savant (of the occult) should humble himself, and try to “Love much” as did St Mary Madeleine, a penitent who had once been a real whore.

        I’ll finish this long posting by reminding of the painful work of combating errors through 2 Tim, 4 “”…. ,preach the word, be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, entreat, rebuke with all patience and teaching. etc”

        • james amen

          dear daughter of the catholic? church:

          as an evangelist, i have found over the years that there is ALWAYS a consistent, common denominator with catholics world-around.. ‘they have ears, but cannot hear’. this applies to you, because jonathan kleck DOES NOT make the claims regarding Mary as you have declared. his ENTIRE POINT of ‘the Queen of Heaven’ WENT COMPLETELY OVER your head!
          you are SO FAR from what he was teaching that i feel Very sorry for you.

          if you keep-up your “Blessed Virgin” garbage, and do not start WORSHIPING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST instead, then, i tell you the truth, you can TRUST that THE LORD is going to say to you, ‘I never knew you: depart from ME, you worker of iniquity’. Matthew 7:20-23.

          i have news for you,..Mary was used of GOD, NO different than any of HIS willing servants; beyond that, she is nothing without THE LORD.. just like ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING: John 15:5.

          you can claim all you want denying that you worship Mary; but, TRUE children~of~GOD give NO regard to her. her task was fulfiled 2000 years ago. END OF STORY regarding Mary. keep ‘the STORY’ of Mary going, and do not expect JESUS’ acceptance of you. plain~and~simple.

          JESUS TOLERATES NO COMPETITION. disregard this, and perish. obey this, and live.
          prayers for you.

          • Daughter of the Church

            James Amen;
            “Jesus tolerates no competition”. Yes agreed, because He is God uncreated, and eternal as is the Father in Heaven and the Holy Ghost. No other God but the Holy Trinity, one God may be adored.
            The Son was also begotten into man with Mary always Virgin as His mother. It is not competition to God to address the mother.

            Is it useful to address the mother? Most certainly! because the mother in the flesh of the Christ is necessarily the nearest creature to God since the Christ is the Son of God.
            Is it essential to venerate the mother of Jesus Christ? It is essential because without the mother, the Christ would have no humanity. He would have been just an “angel of light” incapable to bleed His Most Precious Blood for our sins.
            Is it an insult to God to disregard the mother of the Son? For your great misfortune yes.

            Lastly: God who most justly does not tolerate competition is incomprehensible. No man can possibly understand God, but God in his infinite mercy gave his creatures two guidelines which are essential to reach the eternal kingdom: Love and Grace. Mary, the Blessed Virgin having both Love and Grace to the fullest should be our guideline.

            • james amen

              dear daughter of the catholic church:

              JESUS has NO mercy for people, as you, who rebel and do not listen. i tell you the truth, you WILL perish because you refuse to heed my warnings to you.

              i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
              i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

              you absolutely contradicted yourself; notice your words:
              ‘Jesus tolerates no competition’. “Yes agreed,..Is it useful to address the mother? Most certainly!”..your “addressing Mary” IS COMPETITION; and, therefore, you contradict yourself as an idolator, blasphemer, and worshiper of satanic rebellion. right there, in your words and admission, is why you WILL perish if you do not repent.

              read these verses, daughter of the catholic church: Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 they are what is going to condemn you if you continue NOT LISTENING!

              i STRONGLY SUGGEST that you maintain this conversation to learn the truth of JESUS; because all your false-talk does not change ONE truth: JESUS DOES NOT KNOW you, and you DO NOT know JESUS.

              here is how you know that i’m telling you the truth..are you ready, daughter of the catholic church? i will tell you a detail about yourself that only you know:
              *you do NOT KNOW THE BIBLE*
              how did i know that?
              here’s how: because, daughter of the catholic church, in all my years of evangelism and talking to catholics around the country, there is ALWAYS a common-denominator with them: they do not believe in THE BIBLE, they do not read THE BIBLE, and if they try to read THE BIBLE, they cannot understand it: I Co 2:14.

              if you think that you can get into HEAVEN without knowing THE WORD OF GOD [that tells you WHO JESUS IS] and without knowing JESUS, then you are GROSSLY DECEIVED. you, and any other catholics reading this, are lovingly warned: repent of your dead religion; lest you perish.

              you see, daughter of the catholic church, if you do not know THE WORD OF GOD, there is NO WAY you know JESUS CHRIST; and because of this, JESUS will say to you at your JUDGMENT ‘I never knew you. Away from ME, you evildoer’: Matthew
              7:20~23.

              sincere prayers for you, and those with your beliefs, in JESUS’ NAME.

      • jknbt

        Mary of Nazareth serves as a good example of obedience to God’s will in the scripture and not much else. To make any more of her than that turns into idolatry.

        If you really love the virgin Mary, you will do what she said. Her last speaking role in the scripture was John 2:5, “His mother said to the servants, ‘Whatever He says to you, do it.’” So do what Mary said, and do whatever Jesus says for you to do….

        Worship of a god or goddess other than the Lord God is strictly forbidden in Ex. 20:3-5. To make Mary into a goddess and to worship/venerate her is idolatry. Using religious statues, idols, and icons makes the sin 10 times worse. The scripture in Exodus says that doing this is to HATE God, and that this sin will follow a blood line to the fourth generation.

        Exodus 20:3-5 (KJV)

        3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

        4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

        5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

        So Sister, this is to call you to repent. You have never repented of your idolatry and worship of the false goddess. You do not have saving faith because you have never repented.

        • CTrent33

          The only God of the Catholics is the Blessed Trinity. Yes, Mary said to do as Jesus says, and good/real Catholics do this. Catholics ask Mary for prayers and honor Her as She deserves. The 4th Commandment says to honor father AND mother. Christ did this and every Christian does the same. If you don’t honor the Blessed Mother, then you don’t follow Christ and are not Christian.

          • Mayhem

            Catholics and Muslims have the same trinity.

            Coincidence?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              But Muslims deny the Christian version of the trinity. Muslims are unitarians in that they deny the Son.

            • Mayhem

              Don’t they both have the Father, the messenger and the messenger’s mother?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Well —

              The Catholic Trinity is Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

              The Muslims have Allah, but he’s not 1/3rd of a unity with the son — whom Muslims deny when they say Allah had no son — and Mary, whom the Muslims very craftily exalt with praise and confirmation of the virgin birth.

              But there is no trinity in Islam, per se

              Rather, the Koran expressly denies it:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_the_Trinity

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Incidentally…

              When Isa (Jesus) says to Allah in sura 5, ayat 116 of the Koran:

              “…it is You who is Knower of the unseen…”

              We do well to recall that ‘unseen’ is a direct translation from Greek into English of HADES; and from άδης to غير مرئي is the same.

              [I have no knowledge whatsoever of Arabic. I just checked it out and it fits both ways.]

              So Isa calls Allah the Knower of Hades.

              Coincidence?

            • Mayhem

              Not that Trinity, Beef, the other one – Allah, Isa and Maryam.

              I didn’t know that about Allah being The Knower of Hades though.

              Not surprised, in the event, so, no, not a coincidence?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              On May 12, 2017, MAYHEM THE KIWI spoke words which heretofore had never been spoken in this world:

              Not that Trinity, Beef, the other one…

              :!: :!: :!:

              Got it.

              What was I thinking.

              The OTHER trinity!

              (Just how many of these non-existent theological constructs are there? That’s what I want to know.)

              I bought James White’s book The Forgotten Trinity so that on the off-hand chance I ever meet him, I might answer YES if he asks me whether or not I’ve read the book. See, he promised he could show in Scripture where the Holy Spirit is referred to as YHWH. Said I: If you can do THAT, then I too will become a Trinitarian. Of course he failed to do anything of the kind. He showed where the Spirit is referred to as the SPIRIT of YHWH. Not as YHWH.

              The LOGOS is inarguably shown in Scripture to be equal and coexistent (assuming we rightly comprehend the Greek verb ἦν) with God the Father. But the Spirit is NOT. And this begs the question — is it right to say that the SON has always been the Son? Didn’t YHWH say: Thou art My Son. THIS DAY have I begotten Thee. I am unsure of whether that bespeaks genesis of ‘sonhood’ proper or not; the first sentence may consist of a single unit — recall that punctuation didn’t come with the original Scriptures, in either language. But the Logos seems to me to be eternal and the Logos became the Son who in turn became the Christ — or perhaps the Logos became the Christ at the same time as becoming the Son. Or perhaps the Logos became the Son in the timeless place and therefore all questions of timing are moot.

              This whole trinitarianism is a messy and confusing proposition. How the overwhelming majority of Christendom believe in this doctrine, is beyond me. Many very intelligent men, especially the masters of the turn of the 20th century, subscribe to this notion. I suspect that has something to do with the fact that when you question it or challenge it, you are forthwith derided as a heretic. Just ask Trent.

            • Mayhem

              “Just how many of these non-existent theological constructs are there? That’s what I want to know.”

              As long as they can be seen as fakery there might be no end for all i care.

              Interesting point regarding rightly comprehending the Greek and perhaps therein lies the root of the problem. Trinitarianism is difficult enough to debunk, when confronted with a passionate adherent, without having certain aspects of the original languages up for debate.

              I had a bit of a look around the internets and, case in point, there is a whole bunch of nuance attached just to this one verb. Kind of like what your definition of “is” is, right Mr Clinton?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “…a whole bunch of nuance attached just to this one verb…”

              And how. But the sense of it seems fairly to be a state of being (Imperfect Active Indicative) which, in the case of John 1:1 is pinned to Ἐν ἀρχῇ — IN BEGINNING — with the article being determined by context.

              So, just as in Genesis 1:1 with בראשית — IN BEGINNING — which John seems to reference in the first verse of the prologue, there is no article. This leaves the gap theorists room to stake their claim. But not really. Because the article is irrelevant considering the context of both Genesis and John. In both, there God is. And no matter how far back you wish to push that IN BEGINNING, God is already there. And there the Word WAS.

              So before it all began, the Word already WAS. Just like He said of Himself in John 8:58 — before Abraham was… I AM

              …with ἦν (I was) being the Imperfect Active Indicative form of the very word Jesus used in John 8:58, εἰμί (I am).

              Existence before the beginning.

              In the beginning, the Word already WAS. And the Word was πρὸς (in the presence of) God. And the Word was, as to His very nature, GOD.

              You can’t do that with the Spirit. The Spirit is the Spirit of God. The Spirit is not God. God and the Spirit are not interchangeable or convertible terms. And neither are the Word and God convertible terms — the Word is God. But God is not the Word, because God is more than His Word.

          • james amen

            dear ctreent:

            i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
            i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

            again, i have found over the years doing evangelism, that there is ALWAYS a consistent, common denominator with catholics world-around.. ‘they have ears, but cannot hear’. let’s see if you are any different..

            1] for your edification, admits that it worships satan. those are its words.
            2] for your edification, the roman cathlolic church admits that it comsiders Mary as part of THE GODHEAD. those are its words.
            3] you, ctreent, have no TRUE religion when you do not even know the history underneath the roman cathlolic church; which has been, and is, all about satan-worship masked and cloaked behind a crucifix.
            4] Mary has NO AUTHORITY regarding prayers of any kind; nor has ANY AUTHORITY ever been given to her. your usurping JESUS is blasphemous, and you are committing a component of ‘THE UNFORGIVABLE sin’; denying THE LORD’S SOLE AUTHORITY.
            as of this moment, ctreent, you are rightfully destined for hell unless you repent.
            5] ‘honoring Mary’ has NOTHING to do with THE TEN COMMANDMENTS; and THE TEN COMMANDMENTS have NOTHING to do with any NEW TESTAMENT obligations for true children~of~GOD. this is why you are likey going to perish, with all other catholics, ctreent33,
            because you are still bogged-down in the OLD TESTAMENT and the yoke and bondage of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS; ‘live by THE LAW, be JUDGED and die by THE LAW’: Romans 2:12.
            b] you use “33″ in your name. this is satanic symbolism used by freemasons. TRUE children~of~GOD do NOT use satan symbolism.
            7] ctreent, face it, you are going to perish if you do not repent.

            let us see whether you listen.

            prayers for you.

            • CTrent33

              james amen,

              “i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed. i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.”

              Pleading the blood of a false christ and invoking the name of a false christ has no power over me, because I follow the true Christ, the Son of Mary.

              “again, i have found over the years doing evangelism, that there is ALWAYS a consistent, common denominator with catholics world-around.. ‘they have ears, but cannot hear’. let’s see if you are any different..”

              Right back at ya, plus you are blind as a bat. You claim to follow Scripture, but fail to see Scripture is Catholicism.

              1. The Catholic Church does no such thing. Maybe the conciliar church (the impostor church started at the second vatican council by invader jews) does, but not the Catholic Church. She is the Bride of Christ.

              2. Again, a complete lie. The true God is the Blessed Trinity. Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Mary is not included. She is a creation and below the Trinity, but far above everyone else (including Angels) put together.

              3. Just because I am not indoctrinated with all the heresies and blasphemies against the Bride of Christ does not mean I have a true religion. You on the other hand, have a false religion of your own making. Doctrines made up in your head. Loosely base on a LITTLE Scripture. I adhere to the One True Faith of ENTIRE Scripture and ENTIRE Apostolic Tradition.

              4. Mary controls the Heart of Her Divine Son. He does ANYTHING She asks of Him: John 2: 3-5 “And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine. And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? My hour is not yet come. His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye.” He was not going to do anything, but was moved by His Mother’s words. And for something with little importance.

              Mary obtains what we ask for FROM Jesus. The power is not Hers. She is a creation. Spitting venom at the Mother of God and saying She is useless is a
              great blasphemy (Believing Jesus will “pat you on the back” for this is insanity.) One of the many you MUST repent of before you die.

              5. A) More evidence of your insanity. Don’t have to follow the Commandments? :roll: Out of one side of your mouth you claim Catholics will be damned for worshiping Mary (Even though we don’t) and from the other side, you claim God doesn’t care anymore about the first Commandment (not to worship false gods.) According to you, He also doesn’t care if you fornicate, murder, treat your parents like trash, etc. Yeah, good luck with that at your judgement.

              B) 33 is in the honor of the real Jesus Christ (not the false one you worship) who sacrificed Himself at that age to make salvation possible.

              Satan wants to be God. He takes the things of God and perverts them. That is why masons use the number 33.

              7. If one stays close to Jesus AND His Blessed Mother, which I strive to do everyday, one will not perish.

              “prayers for you.”

              Likewise.

            • james amen

              dear ctreent:

              thank you for responding;..however,..
              again, i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
              i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

              thank you for attempting employing THE LORD’S BLOOD with me; i’ll take that ANY day. THE LORD will only permit it from you, however, due to Mark 9:38~39; but, i’ll take it any way.

              now, the bad news for you..
              it seems, ctreent, that the world is just FULL of rebellious people like you, that THE LORD CONTINUES to send me to, to lovingly warn you to stop your falsehoods, to stop your rebellion.

              so, please stop your false BIBLICAL beliefs before you perish:
              Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.

              honestly, it gets SO tiring reciting these same warnings to people, like you, who want THE BIBLE on your own, rebellious terms.

              read these verses, ctreent, because once you get to this point in your rebellion, THE LORD only gives you TWO, FINAL chances to stop your heresies, your false doctrines, your REBELLION; and then it is OVER for you.. you may as well plan on spending ETERNITY with demons.

              PLEASE stop! prayers for you.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              CTrent33

              See that name, Evangelist? Why don’t you take the time to find out what it means. At least this way you’ll stop misspelling the screen names of those with whom you engage in dialogue — an insulting lack of respect founded in your own poor attention to detail.

              After that, why don’t you try actually addressing a few of TRENT’s objections, rather than just ignoring his points and merely throwing verses past his answers to you.

              I mean, if you ever hope to become competent at your chosen profession, that is.

          • james amen

            dear ctreent:

            i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
            i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

            again, i have found over the years doing evangelism, that there is ALWAYS a consistent, common denominator with catholics world -around.. ‘they have ears, but cannot hear’. let’s see if you are any different..

            1] for your edification, the roman cathlolic church admits that it worships satan. those are its words.
            2] for your edification, the roman cathlolic church admits that it considers Mary as part of THE GODHEAD. those are its words.
            3] you, ctreent, have no TRUE religion when you do not even know the history underneath the roman cathlolic church; which has been, and is, all about satan-worship masked and cloaked behind a crucifix.
            4] Mary has NO AUTHORITY regarding prayers of any kind; nor has ANY AUTHORITY ever been given to her. your usurping JESUS is blasphemous, and you are committing a component of ‘THE UNFORGIVABLE sin’; denying THE LORD’S SOLE AUTHORITY.
            as of this moment, ctreent, you are rightfully destined for hell unless you repent.
            5] ‘honoring Mary’ has NOTHING to do with THE TEN COMMANDMENTS; and THE TEN COMMANDMENTS have NOTHING to do with any NEW TESTAMENT obligations for true children~of~GOD. this is why you are likely going to perish, with all other catholics, ctreent33,
            because you are still bogged-down in the OLD TESTAMENT and the yoke and bondage of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS; ‘live by THE LAW, be JUDGED and die by THE LAW’: Romans 2:12.
            b] you use “33″ in your name. this is satanic symbolism used by freemasons. TRUE children~of~GOD do NOT use satan symbolism.
            7] ctreent, face it, you are going to perish if you do not repent.

            let us see whether you listen.

            prayers for you.

          • jknbt

            Hey, Trent….let’s think this through…Mary and the Apostles were baptised in the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, along with the whole church…get the picture of what would have happened when Peter, James, and the rest were gathered together the next day for a wonderful worship service. Imagine Mary seated with the women as was the custom of orthodox Jewish services then and to this day (the women sit separate from the men in jewish orthodox services). Then imagine someone coming in with a painting of Mary they had painted the night before and sets it up in from of Jesus’ mother. Then imagine what would happen in that Spirit-filled group if the person kneeled before her, started bowing before the icon, and then asked Mary to take his prayers to Jesus.

            This would have caused a small riot. The apostles would have rejected this man and bodily thrown him and is icon right out of the meeting. Mary herself would not have participated in any of this perversion of worship. They would have strictly rebuked the man with the scriptures I quoted. Is it a whole lot different in our current situation? God rejects any sort of Mary worship or any worship using idols and icons like I am describing here.

            The Catholic church is not the true church. Contrast the harlot of Rev 17-18 with the true church in Rev 19, the Bride. You are not part of the true church if you haven’t repented of your idolatrous practices in clear violation of the 10 commandments. You seem to think you are accepted by God, but you haven’t gotten in the front door yet due to your idolatry and refusal to repent. There are no idolators in heaven, along with all the other groups identified as those rejected by God. You were never saved in the first place. Be zealous therefore and repent. Catholics go to hell so predictably that you people have incorporated the experience into your theology. Instead of calling it hell, you call it purgatory, which is hell by another name. You don’t have to go there, friend.

            I know better to invest a lot of time in debate here. The scriptures says in Hos. 4:17 to leave Ephraim alone, since he was long ago give over to idolatry. Why am I spending any time here? Just so you and the other unregenerate hypocrites can’t complain to God while you are burning in purgatory-hell, “Oh! Why was’t I warned!?” Well friend, you have been warned.

          • jknbt

            hey Trent, once you get through with the damnable practices of Idolatry and worshipping false goddesses, here are lists of the other things you need to get done with so you can be fully repented before God and so he might actually consider letting you into his house:

            There are several lists of fatal flaws that keep people from becoming saved. They do not have saving faith acceptable to God so that he will allow them into the kingdom of God and Heaven until they are done with these things: Galatians 5:19–21; 1 Timothy 1:9-10; Revelation 21:8; Ephesians 5:3-7, 18; Mark 7:21-22; 2 Corinthians 12:20; Romans 1:26-32; Revelation 20:11–15, and more….

            Whew, quite a list…How can anyone be saved then? Matthew 19:26 “But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” If a person honestly acknowledges his sin, asks for forgiveness, promises to reform, and invoke God’s help to do the right thing, God can accept that. God apparently takes it on a good faith promise that the convert will go and sin no more. None of us is perfect, and there is no salvation by works of perfection. Hell is full of people who walk the perfectionist path and will not serve God until they somehow become good enough. We are saved because he is so good, not because we are so good. If you fall, you can repent, and you can be restored. That’s the deal.

    • my2cents

      This is so unspeakably blasphemous and heretical as others have already said. This video contains nothing but spiteful hatred and lies. I agree with everything stated by Daughter of the Church and cTrent33- they both are right!

      The Virgin Mary is the Daughter of God the Father, the Mother of God the Son, and the Spouse of
      God the Holy Ghost. She was created Immaculate- free from original sin. Throughout her life she remained Immaculate, and a virgin. She is Co-redemptrix. She lived humbly. And the more she humbled herself, the more God has glorified her. God corontated her as Queen of Heaven and gave her to us to be our mother. God WANTS us to honor His Mother, because by honoring His mother, we glorify Him.
      Think about this- How could The Blessed Mother be “the whore of Babylon” if God chose her to be His mother, His first tabernacle. God dwelled within her for 9 months. He would choose the most pure, holy, and humble of women. He wouldn’t choose anyone who wasn’t pure and worthy.
      She was predestined to become the Mother of God. Anyone who rejects the Virgin Mary, rejects the judgment of God, who is Omnipotent. Are you saying that you know better than God?

      • Truthseeker

        my2cents

        so God who designed the sex act as the means of reproduction not only for man but beast as well then made the sex act SIN?

        The god you worship is kind of confused —

        You make Mary “the” queen of heaven and a minor god simply because she supposedly never had sex with her husband — do you not know that not having sex and bring more potential sons into this world is disobeying the commandment of God??

        27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

        28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, ——- Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth

        God gave mankind the command to multiply i.e. have sex and reproduce thus if Mary remained a virgin she is a sinner.

        Now as to the fact that she did have sons and daughter born from her womb::

        John 7

        1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

        2 Now the Jews’ feast of tabernacles was at hand.

        3 — His brethren — therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

        the brothers of Jesus Christ told Jesus to go to the Feast so— HIS “disciples”— can see His works — these “brothers” are not disciples see verse 5 –they did not believe in Jesus.

        How can these fellows be disciples if they do not believe and if they are not disciples and are called His brothers — please tell us how you can twist these clear scriptures to say something they do not say??

        4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

        5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

        6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.

        7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

        8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.

        9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.

        10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.

        The catholic church is the church of Satan and her all daughters will soon return to her

        Here is a very short list of her daughters:

        Lutheran; Greek Orthodox; Methodist; Russian Orthodox, Episcopal, Eastern Orthodox, if Sunday, easter, xmas and the trinity are part of the doctrine the church is catholic.

        • jknbt

          you need to change your handle to “Truth-Avoider”

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