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Holy Spirit – is not a “person”

Why do English translations fraudulently continue the use the pronouns “he” and “him” for spirit? Some (but not all) translations use the personal pronouns “he” and “him” when referring to the spirit, the holy spirit, or the holy ghost. The question we ask is “are these pronouns also found in the language of the original Greek writing or are they added? In order to answer, we must look into the language of the Greek writings. If the holy spirit is not a “third person” of a Trinity addressed as a “He” or a “Him” then the Christian concept of a three-in-one God is also an error and the Christian concept of a three person “Trinity” God in one being must be false.

The following are two example translations of the same Bible passage that take completely opposite positions in their translation of several verses addressing the spirit. Such opposites in translation are a strong indication that one or the other is in error. In these examples we are using the King James Version (KJV) which uses the personal pronoun “he” and the Concordant Literal Version (CLV) which uses the neutral pronoun “it.” We will quote the applicable part of the Greek New Testament (NT) translated sentence from each of them, and then we will check to see what the original Greek language of the same Bible passage actually says.

Test passage: John 14:16, is a good starting place of a passage referring to holy spirit.

KJV “…. that he may abide with you forever…”

CLV “…that it, indeed may be with you for the eon…”

Greek “…that [it] may remain with you into the age.” (“it” is only added for proper English)

Note: This study has shown that the pronoun “he” is absent from the Greek language of the Bible when used with the word spirit. In the few passages where a pronoun does exist, the pronoun is always relative, meaning the word is actually “which.” In those few cases, the Greek NT would read as follows:

Greek alternate “…that which may remain with you into the age.”

Conclusion, these passages in the Greek language of the Greek NT Bible do not contain the pronoun “he.” The CLV is the accurate translation here, using the neutral ‘it’ but it was added only for proper English.

Test passage, how about: John 14:17.

KJV “…. because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

CLV “…. for it is not beholding it, neither is knowing it. Yet you know it, for it is remaining with you and will be in you.”

Greek “…. because it does not see it, nor know it, but you know it, for beside you [it] abides, and in you shall be.

Note: John 14:17, is a good example of faulty (to be nice) but deceptive translation in the KJV. In the above passage, the word translated “him” from the Greek in the KJV is the Greek pronoun “auto.” This pronoun is not the first person masculine pronoun “him.” This pronoun in the Greek language is 3rd person neuter and must for that reason be translated as “it.”

This is absolute proof of a deceptive translation in the KJV. It is very easy to verify from the Greek Bible by anyone having a basic knowledge of The Greek language. The KJV is in error, but the CLV is correct and corresponds completely with the original language of the Greek writings. If we took the time to analyze all the other passages using the word “spirit” the same or similar defective translation of the English NT Bible will be found. In the above passages, as in most of the other passages referring to holy spirit, the pronoun is often absent, or if present, it is a relative pronoun like “who, which, or that,” and is always “neutral” as is required for a correct English translation of the Greek text.

There are many other instances in the KJV and other deceptive English translations where the definite article “the” has been inserted in English translations where the passage is referring to a neutral (holy spirit) or when the article “the” does not appear in the Greek text. In our opinion, the absolute worst Bible for all sorts of liberal abuse is the NIV (New international Version) this Bible should be namedNot Inspired Version.” We have used the KJV here since it is probably the most common English translation, yet it is still full of errors even since 1611, which was the first English KJV translation. One would think they would have corrected it by now and made it a bit more accurate. Inserting the article “the” in the text when it does not exist in the Greek original can also change the entire meaning of the passage by making the noun or pronoun “definite” rather than keeping it “indefinite” as it was in the original Greek text, for example:

Luke 1:35.

KJV “…. And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Spirit shall come upon the…”

CLV “…. And, answering, the messenger said to her, “holy spirit shall be coming on you,…”

Greek “….And answering, the messenger said to her, “holy spirit shall be coming upon you,…”

In the above KJV example, the definite article is absent from the original Greek text but has been added by the KJV translators. Also added was the capitalization (indicating in English a noun, (a definitive person, place, or thing). The CLV is correct and corresponds to the Greek text by not adding the article in their translation. The incorrect use of the “definite article” preceding “holy” by the KJV is an attempt to make “holy spirit” into a definite “person” when “holy spirit” is actually indefinite and not “specific” at all in Greek.

These are some examples where the definite article “the” is used in the Greek NT when referring to holy spirit as in “the” holy spirit indicating a specific spirit or a specific “holy spirit.” Without exception, when “the” is used in English translations it is always in the “neutral” gender in the original Greek language. In some cases, the article “the” in the Greek is not distinguished, and can be either masc. or neut. But, in the majority of passages, holy spirit is always “neutral” and does not have a gender assigned to it in Greek, nor can gender be properly applied to air, breath, or wind. Gender is deceptively added only by translators to give personality to holy spirit but this is not supported by the Greek manuscripts and must be rejected.

The word “Holy” in our English NT Bibles translates “set-apart” in the Greek originals. The word “spirit” in our English NT translations is from the Latin ‘wind, breath‘ and translates the Greek word “pne-u’-ma” which literally means “blow effect, wind, breath, to breathe.” This Greek word “pneuma” is where we get the English word “pneumatic(s)” from, all having to do with air. By Biblical application, especially in the Greek writings, the use of the words “spirit” or “the spirit” universally refers to “air” (pne-u’-ma). This word spirit when used is simply an allegorical reference to what is not normally visible to the eye, but where the effects of having air movement can be seen. We have come to see air as causing motion, and it reflects the force of an action on physical elements. In our modern age it provides the ability for flight by huge air machines. In the primitive and even in the present mind, air is an absolute necessity to maintain life; this is true for all breathing mammals. In all the higher breathing life mammals we see that physical “air” is necessary for the body to live, the living body will then also have the means to develop intelligence.

Similar to the Greek word “pne-u’-ma,” the Hebrew word “ru’ach” also literally means wind, and comes from the Hebrew parent root word “rach” meaning a prescribed path. However, the root word “rach” is not found in the Hebrew text of the Bible, but is defined by several child root words that are derived from it. The meaning of the “child” root word “ru’ach” is literally a reference to a wind that follows a prescribed path each season. By extension, the Hebrew word ru’ach also means the wind of a man (his direction or path). In English translated Hebrew, the word is usually also translated as “spirit” in English. In ancient Hebrew understanding however a man’s “ru’ach” (his direction or path) is not just a spiritual entity, but it is understood by the Ancient Hebrews as his truth character. In this article the character of a man reflects the soul of a man. The soul is the invisible intangible presence developed within the body that defines character.

It is the combination of body + spirit (the breath) + intelligence that is necessary to develop the soul. For Adamic man, when the body dies and the breath (the spirit) leaves at death, the “soul,” when it is fully amalgamated with the invisible “Life-Force Essence” of the heavenly Father will continue on. It is the “soul” (the character, the real essence) that continues on into eternity to become part of YHWH’s family. It is the soul that will dwell in His Eternal Universe in a new form or body after the death of our physical body on earth. The spirit (breath) leaves, and our earthly physical body will simply cease and turn into dust. This is why Yahshua (Jesus) came to First Century Israel, to announce the Kingdom of YHWH[1] that it had come, that it was there, was available (not observable), but that it will be dwelling within us, the family members of the Father’s heavenly household.

When used with, and/or referring to YHWH[2] (Yahweh) our Almighty, the word “spirit” is actually a reference to the celestial power and influence of the Almighty as manifested by His invisible, intangible presence within the lives of those who are His own (it has nothing to do with air, wind, or breath). When referring to the terrestrial, the word spirit must be considered in strict context of its use. The word “spirit” can be used in many diverse applications in the Bible, such as: spirit of truth, spirit of error, deceptive spirit, gentle spirit, evil spirit, etc., etc. but then always within the Greek Bible of a “blow effect, wind, or breath, context. For believers, the soul of YHWH’s family members will become a portion of YHWH’s invisible, intangible, eternal Life-Force Essence.

The words “Holy Spirit” (set-apart – breath, wind, or spirit) have become simple weak and primitive man-made words that attempt to describe what really cannot be described. What man calls the Holy Spirit is the Life-Force Essence of the Mighty Power and the influence of YHWH himself. YHWH however, is not wind, and He is not breath, or air. YHWH is a pure Life-Force Essence. YHWH is without a physical body and without any physical properties needed at all. YHWH is eternal, yet He has revealed Himself to ancient Israel. His Essence has always filled His entire endless Created Universe, that has no beginning or ending. We need to listen to the teachings of Yahshua about the Kingdom of YHWH/of heaven to really understand the “Life-Force Essence” of the Almighty who wants all of us to become a part of His heavenly host, His eternal family.

YHWH is THE “Almighty Sovereign Creator Power, the Eternal Original Originator, the Life-Force Essence,” and He is what Life Is, the eternal “I-AM.” He has revealed Himself through the anointed chosen Prophets of the Hebrew Bible, and also through Yahshua the First Century prophet to Israel as recorded in the Greek Synoptic Gospels. What men think they have observed and labeled as “Holy Spirit” with the use of wind, breath, and blow-effect (for lack of a better description) is THE Life-Force Essence of the One Almighty Sovereign Creator Power Himself, there is no other, and there is none equal. There is no second “person” or “third” person god involved. is, was, and always will exist. The Almighty Sovereign is not located somewhere in a place called “heaven” (in the air, the sky, or in space above). YHWH is not in a place at all, the presence of the Almighty Sovereign fully fills all of His Creation. All that exists is within YHWH’s entire domain, and it has always been.

Note: It is not our intent to evangelize, and we are not an evangelistic Assembly. We do not believe in evangelism, but we do and will present the truth as we see it from Scripture. We are a teaching Ministry. Those who truly seek will find regardless of what we do.

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[2] The personal proper and True Name of the Almighty Sovereign Eternal Creator Power of all, the “Life-force” of Adam, the progenitor of Abraham, Isaac, and the descendants of Jacob/Israel is “YHWH” (Yahweh) shown transliterated here in English letters.

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    • Horizon808

      Did you forget something? – amnesiaphotography.com

    • BEEF SUPREME

      “Test passage: John 14:16, is a good starting place of a passage referring to holy spirit.”

      You’ll run into trouble with this argument. While I do not subscribe to the doctrine of the Trinity, because I do not find that the Holy Spirit is God, but is rather the SPIRIT of God…

      …the argument can indeed be made that the Greek text sometimes refers to the Spirit as a ‘he’ because the Greek text sometimes uses the masculine demonstrative pronoun ‘THAT’ (ἐκεῖνος) or ‘THAT ONE’ or, because masculine, ‘THAT MAN’…

      …as we find is the case in John 14:26

      ὁ δὲ παράκλητος τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ὃ πέμψει ὁ πατὴρ ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου ἐκεῖνος ὑμᾶς διδάξει πάντα καὶ ὑπομνήσει ὑμᾶς πάντα ἃ εἶπον ὑμῖν

      Therefore, a translator is perfectly within his rights to translate that portion of the verse:

      HE will teach you all things…

      Anyone may confirm this is the case by checking websites such as:

      http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-17.htm

      …to see the demonstrative pronoun used is ἐκεῖνος (1565), and if we hover the mouse over the blue grammar code right beneath the word (or click on the code), we confirm that ἐκεῖνος is the nominative masculine form of the demonstrative pronoun.

      That said, there are also places in the Greek Manuscripts which refer to the Holy Spirit by the neuter pronoun ‘it’, which seems odd if the authors of the New Testament actually intended to communicate masculine personhood of the Spirit. But if someone should defend the translation from John 14:16 as ‘HE’, they are certainly within their rights to do so, and correctly.

      The Scriptures confirm the deity of Christ, which I know you deny, Johnny. But do you have an answer for verses like this:

      Acts 20:28 (KJV)

      Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

      :?: :?: :?:

      The Holy Ghost has made them the overseers, but GOD has purchased the church with His own blood – unless we have anyone who should like to argue that the Holy Spirit has blood, and I’ve yet to come across anyone willing to make that argument, Trinitarian or no. Christ has blood and Christ purchased the church with His blood. And Christ is God, so the verse makes perfect sense. Again, the Holy Spirit is not God; the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.

      “Test passage, how about: John 14:17….”

      This verse is a clear win for your argument, because the Greek pronoun used twice in this verse is in fact the neuter form of the pronoun. Had John intended clearly to communicate that the Spirit is a ‘HE’ then John would have used the masculine pronoun, which he did not do.

      “In the above passages, as in most of the other passages referring to holy spirit, the pronoun is often absent, or if present, it is a relative pronoun like “who, which, or that,” and is always “neutral” as is required for a correct English translation of the Greek text.”

      The correct term is ‘neuter’, not neutral. And we see above from John 14:26 that the demonstrative pronoun used was in fact masculine, not neuter.

      “…the absolute worst Bible for all sorts of liberal abuse is the NIV…”

      I’m with you on that.

      “…Greek “….And answering, the messenger said to her…” (bold added)

      I know how much you ‘Hebrew Roots’ guys hate the word ‘angel’, but the Greek word from this verse (Luke 1:35) is ἄγγελος (an-gell-oss with a hard ‘g’) so it’s okay to say ANGEL, Johnny!!! Angels are messengers, but if you’re quoting Greek, why not quote Greek?

      “Without exception, when “the” is used in English translations it is always in the “neutral” gender in the original Greek language.”

      :!: :!: :!:

      I’ve been checking your math on that and it looks like you’re absolutely correct. Now THIS is a powerful argument against masculine personhood of the Spirit. This is, in fact, the strongest argument I’ve come across. I will be using this argument from now on, thanks to you (assuming I find no exceptions to the rule, which I will continue looking for shortly!! I’ll let you know if I find any).

      “…and also through Yahshua the First Century prophet to Israel…”

      Really? That’s how you want to address Him? As a prophet? Terrible, Johnny. For someone who spends as much time as you do investigating the New Testament, how you could come away with such an insufficient view of our Savior is beyond my ability to comprehend.

      “All rights reserved, Assembly of Yahweh, Cascade…”

      I sure hope you are the author of this material, or at least a contributor. I’d hate to think of anyone getting so much information from any single source, other than the written Word of God itself.

      Huzzah.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        (I should add — I believe I have come across a Greek verse where the actual masculine pronoun is used in application to the Spirit, but I looked for it this evening and was not able to find it. Perhaps I have recalled incorrectly. But if I do come across it I will be sure to pass it along. Even so, I agree with your assessment that the Trinity is an erroneous doctrine and that the Spirit is not accurately described with the assignment of masculine personhood.)

        • Yochannan

          Please mail me:
          address found at – http://Yahwismbelief.com

          • BEEF SUPREME

            I’ve just been exploring your website for the past hour. And now, upon seeing your request, I tried to click through your ‘contact us’ link, but it seems not to be working.

            Please email me at:

            [email protected]

            …and I will contact you back from my private email address.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            I shot you a reply this morning.

            Hopefully you have it in hand by now.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            And I got your message that you didn’t receive it, so I fired off a re-send to your personal email.

            Should be coming through in 3… 2… 1…

            I could be imagining things, or I could be having déjà vu, but you and I may have been through this once before off-site a few years back.

            Hopefully I’ve got you confused with someone else. If so, that other fella terminated our conversation by saying he was too old and too set in his ways to listen to anything I had to say to him. He thanked me for my time and bid me adieu.

        • Boo

          Beef and Yochannan…pardon my butting in here, but after reading both your observations, which I find personally insightful, I still come away with an innate sense that the spirit has a masculine feel, or way of interacting. I say it this way because I don’t want to confuse it with having a gender, but to clarify if you will, it’s (God’s) approach to a living soul in this realm.

          As an aside:
          It’s my understanding there are evil spirits. Which come in all shapes and sizes. Of these I’ve heard accounts of nefarious female like, “suc·cu·bus = a female demon believed to have sexual intercourse with sleeping men”. As this is referred to as a demon, my question for you both is, “is a demon a spirit”?

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Boo,

            It was only a few weeks ago I was searching the Greek Scriptures and looking into this very issue. I anticipate an upcoming debate with a well-known Trinitarian, and I have been brushing up on my study relevant to the issues of Trinitarianism.

            It became apparent to me that most of the masculine translated pronouns were rendered illegitimately, which is to say, in order to reflect church doctrine and not according to the plainly-worded language of Scripture.

            But Yochannan’s observation above that all personal pronouns applied directly to the Spirit in the Greek MSS are rendered in the neuter, is a very major component to any complete argument against Trinitarianism. Moreover, a Trinitarian will have some serious hermeneutical gymnastics to perform even to offer an answer for how that might be, while in the defense of that doctrine.

            If the Spirit is only referred to as ‘he’ consequentially, because of the singular or occasional usage of the Greek Demonstrative Masculine Pronoun ἐκεῖνος, while everywhere else in New Testament Scripture the Spirit is referenced in the neuter…

            …then we owe it to the Word of God to take that under careful advisement.

            If the Spirit has no gender in Scripture, then should we be assigning gender to the Spirit?

            My sense is the answer should be obvious.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Boo asked:

            “…is a demon a spirit?…”

            Boo, I have not the foggiest notion of how to answer that question.

            I wish I did.

    • BEEF SUPREME

      John 16:13

      ὅταν δὲ ἔλθῃ ἐκεῖνος τὸ πνεῦμα τῆς ἀληθείας ὁδηγήσει ὑμᾶς εἰς πάσαν τὴν ἀληθείαν· οὐ γὰρ λαλήσει ἀφ’ ἑαυτοῦ ἀλλ’ ὅσα ἂν ἀκούσῃ λαλήσει καὶ τὰ ἐρχόμενα ἀναγγελεῖ ὑμῖν

      Now generally I use the ESV, but the KJV translates this reflexive pronoun properly, so:

      Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

      This is one instance where the reflexive pronoun is rendered in the masculine. Different versions of the word would have been used to communicate feminine or neuter. Therefore HIMSELF is the only proper way to translate the word ἑαυτοῦ.

      However, the other times ‘he’ is rendered in this verse are all the work of the translators because each occurrence is a verb form which expresses the person doing the action, but such verb forms in Greek all convey the sense of ‘he, she, or it’ and the intended sense must be derived from context. But I would add, if we’re being honest about context, the inclusion of ἑαυτοῦ provides ample context to legitimately render the verb forms in the masculine. No one should ever argue that the translators were merely inserting false doctrine in the case of this particular verse and had no other reason than that as their motivation for doing so.

      Moreover, the inclusion (more than once) of the Greek demonstrative pronoun ἐκεῖνος in reference to the Spirit, in addition to this instance (which occurs in all the Greek MSS, incidentally) of the masculine reflexive pronoun, gives the translators enough wiggle-room (in my book) for them to advocate legitimately for their common belief in masculine personhood. That said, the preponderance of the evidence, by far, is in favor of neuter applications of all pronoun forms and certainly all definite articles.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        But not so fast…

        The problem is that both the masculine and neuter forms of ἑαυτοῦ are spelled identically.

        That leaves it up to the translator to eisegete context (read into the text) or to exegete context (draw meaning OUT FROM the text).

        Sneaky Trinitarians.

        The same reflexive pronoun is used in Matthew 12:45…

        Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself (ἑαυτοῦ), and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation.

        But in this instance, the website http://www.biblehub.com renders the pronoun as neuter, despite being spelled identically with the masculine.

        http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-45.htm

        The Trinitarian argument yet weakens.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Incidentally — this verse (Matthew 12:45) does certainly offer an answer to Boo’s question re demons and spirits.

          Funny how it comes up almost directly after the question being raised.

          • Boo

            Your just have a solid and direct connect with the spirit, Beef. Not funny at all, just a show of how blessed you are and those of us who the spirit directs us to in order to strengthen ours.

    • allendaves

      2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

      123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

      #1 “ONE” not triune: ……PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12)
      Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT

      PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
      “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!
      JOHN 14: 8-20 ….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
      Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
      The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense
      TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
      - Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
      …… should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
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      #2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
      till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
      they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
      2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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      #3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
      (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
      (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
      (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
      will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
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