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The Revelation that shocked the World

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 19:13
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Presenting the following false message, namely, in essentials unity, in non essentials liberty and in all things charity represents a nonsensical teaching.

2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

To have the audacity to claim that there are essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity, is simply a ludicrous statement.


The teachings of Jesus have been replaced with the traditions and doctrines of men. Knowing of Christ, and Him knowing you are very different. But how are we able to enjoy a personal and intimate relationship with Him?

 2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The answers men seek are contained in the Word of God; they are only a mystery to those who are not sealed by Christ through the Baptism of The Holy Spirit.

ESSENTIAL AND NON ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES OF CHRISTIANITY ON SALVATION

If any man does not have the Spirit of Christ or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, he can not be of Christ. We must be transformed by Christ to put on the Mind of Christ.

1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Our Lord said the “words that I speak they are Spirit and they are Life” (John 6:63). The teachings of Jesus Christ can only be understood when His Spirit dwells within us.

2 Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

To deny the power of Christ is to make the false claim that we are Born Again.

2 Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The evidence of denying the power that Christ offers, through His Holy Spirit, is proven when people are oblivious to the very fact that they are deceived.

John the Baptist proclaimed that are two Baptisms. One of them is unto repentance, and as a result of the other, we can have the assurance of Salvation through the Holy Spirit.

Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Christ spoke plainly when He said, unless you believe and are baptized you shall not be saved. He did not say you are saved, but you shall be saved. We can have Assurance of Salvation through Him alone.

Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity

1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

An essential doctrine for the luke warm church is, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved (Acts 16:31 NIV).

Those who are devoid of the Spirit of truth teach immediate salvation, and the deceived believe it.

So then, obviously the inspired teaching of Jesus on Salvation as found in the following New Testament verses must be non-essential doctrines (Mat 24:22, Mark 13:30, 20, 1 Pet 4:17-18, Luke 21:28, Rom 13:11, Eph 6:17, 1 Thes 5:8, Heb 9:28, 1 Pet 1:9).

Also, the essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity must prove that the following Old Testament scriptures are discretionary as well (Isa 25:9, 51:6-8, 61:10, 62:11-12, Lam 3:26).

ESSENTIAL AND NON ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES OF CHRISTIANITY ARE CONTRARY TO CHRIST’S WORD

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

We are to live by every word of God, and therefore we cannot have essential and non-essential doctrines of Christianity.

Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

And how are we able to keep the word of God?  We need to trust in Christ, draw near or continually approach Him and humbly submit in all things to his lordship over every area of our lives (Eph 1:12, James 4:6-7).

James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

We are to seek after the kingdom of God and His righteousness, in a continual and diligent manner, without ceasing. The reward that we seek should be that of our Redemption and Salvation upon our Lord’s return, but more often than naught it is materialistic in nature (Matt 6:20-24, 33, Rom 8:23, Eph 1:13-14).

The essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity represent yet another religion.

All believers are to study the teachings of Christ, so that they may be able to directly and correctly understand the word of truth. We are not to let so-called pastors perform this task for us.

 essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity

2 Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

One of the most important teachings of Jesus Christ is that it is the Spirit of Truth that enables us to truly receive and walk with Christ.

2 Cor 4:2-4 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

The Holy Spirit witnesses or confirms the truth of Jesus to us. It also empowers us to be a true and faithful witness to others with an authority that only Christ offers.

2 Cor 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them…

Many, if not most, are taught that becoming Born Again is a process related to the following events:

  • To simply know of Jesus, and to recite a sinners prayer.
  • To attend a church, tithe and obey the Sabbath.
  • This same group usually claims to have the infilling of the spirit.
  • They also believe that as a result of reciting Acts 16:31 that they are saved.
  • The problem is that without any evidence to support the transformation associated with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the claim is false.
  • Also believing in the deceitful but very popular salvation deception doctrine prevents the Holy Spirit from working in the deceived.

Gal 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; buthe that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

ESSENTIAL AND NON ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES OF CHRISTIANITY ARE THE DOCTRINES OF MEN

Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

When our hearts and minds are focused on Jesus Christ, and the reward that we seek is eternal life with him, we are kept from the power of deception (Mat 6:21, John 17:15, 2 Thes 3:3).

Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

 essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Great deception within Christianity occurs as a result of biased interpretations, made by impostors that have an appearance of Godliness.

Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

The self-righteous and hypocritical doctrines given by these impostors should prove that they deny the true power of Christ. However many want a messenger that will allow them to be comfortable in their sin; these simply wish to be lulled to sleep (2 Tim 3:1-9, 2 Tim 4:3).

Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

To proclaim that there are essential and non essential doctrines of Christianity is to give authority to professional manipulators to distort the gospel truths as they see fit.

Romans 16:17-18 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.  For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

He that is not with me is against me, and he that does not gather with me causes the sheep to be wasted (Luke 11:23, John 10:12).

We were warned that the time would come wherein many would not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts, they would gather unto themselves teachers that would present cunningly devised fables. That time has arrived (2 Peter 1:16, 2 Tim 4:3).

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  • New covenant preacher

    Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
    Mark 16:16 (KJV)

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    Romans 8:9 (KJV)

    Christ spoke plainly when He said, unless you believe and are baptized you shall not be saved. He did not say you are saved, but you shall be saved. We can have Assurance of Salvation through Him alone.

    So when we combine Luke 3:16, with Mark 16:16, and Romans 8:9, It is evident that whomsoever believes in Christ and is baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned

    Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

    • Gina

      I am going to challenge you to look very carefully at Luke 3:16 again, and think about who John was speaking to. John was telling those vipers (Pharisees and Sadduccees) of a judgment – baptize (immerse) with the Holy Spirit and fire. Fire was a part of most if not all of the judgments prophesied in the OT against the wicked people. Fire is one of the symbols of God’s judgment. His fury is fire (Lam. 2:4).

      So, when John told the Pharisees and Sadduccees that Christ would immerse them with the Spirit and with fire, he was telling them of the judgment to come upon them for their unbelief. Luke 3:16, Matt. 3:11, and Mark 1:8 were finishing the previous verse (Matt. 3:7) where John had asked them “who hath warned you to flee from the WRATH to come?”. The subject for those :vipers” was their judgment, not their salvation.

      Everyone keeps misapplying that scripture to the immersion (baptism) into Christ. There were only three instances of baptism by the Holy Spirit for salvation, and that was when Peter used the keys to open the kingdom for the Jews on the day of Pentecost in Jerusalem, again at the house of Cornelius for the gentiles (nations) and then on the road to Damascus for Saul /Paul.

      The other baptism were simple immersions in water, after which the apostles or one of their appointed helpers (Timothy) would lay their hands on the baptized believers to bestow the gift promised in Acts 2:39. The process was clearly set forth in Acts 19:1-6 where Paul baptizes the disciples at Ephesus and then lays his hands on them.

      That gift of the Spirit was a limited promise for a limited time – “to you and to your children and to those far off” (the gentiles who had not yet been invited / grafted in). That gift prophesied from Joel c. 2 allowed those of that century to perform the miracles which were only for the authentication of the word / gospel (Acts 2:22) … to show those listening that what they heard was from God.

      As the miracles have ceased, then so has that pouring out of the Holy Spirit. It ended when the apostles died and could no longer lay hands on anyone, and as those of that generation died off.

      Today, we have the Holy Spirit through His word. As we study His word we become more and more immersed in His mind / Spirit (Rom. 15:6; 1 Cor. 2:16). We grow into the mature children of God that He wants us to be as we grow in knowledge of His word. The Spirit goes where He wills (John 3:8), and we who are in Christ are to be ready at any time to speak as He has spoken, as the oracles of God (1 Pet. 4:11).

      See my post under my name “It’s Not The End of The World – Part VIII: Confirmation from Acts 2″. All posts are also at https://shreddingtheveil.org.

      • chuckfrank

        ‘As the miracles have ceased’ it truly is a shame you believe in a powerless Christianity. Thank God miracles did not cease! “When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”(Lk 18:8) Obviously not in you!

        • Gina

          Well most would understand that I meant the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit that were poured forth at Pentecost in the first century A.D. But, which miraculous power do you have? Can you heal snake bites, or heal the sick? Maybe you can miraculously speak a foreign language you don’t already know?

      • goastdale

        #1 The thief-baptism-grace& the name-Lord

        “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”.…….So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
        Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
        Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME
        Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
        1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./
        Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
        Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
        .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME .& they have KEPT THY WORD.;
        THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21

        - If God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves Then it must follow that the MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; . Not the letters that spell the word but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names. “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise it is just as ridiculous to suggest that the name OF JESUS is the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )

        Download the full doc

        Thief&Cross 3D | Grace In Christianity | Baptism

        Thief&Cross 3D | Grace In Christianity | Baptism
        1Pet 3:21” even baptism doth also now save us “…”whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be save…

        https://www.academia.edu/23846490/Thief_and_Cross_3D

        https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/thief-baptism-grace-name-lord-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card

        Also there is this…..I’m not Roman Catholic by any stretch but give credit where credit is due, this guy did do his homework on this issue and his presentation is kinda slow at first but very methodical and sound ..Basically it is an examination of the Reformed theologies (John MacArthur, James White, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Michael Kruger, Steven Anderson, Charles Stanley et al) uses of Justification (and Forensic Justification) (Regeneration v Justification)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L14UNjaZJm8

        ……..The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)…….THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disob

        • goastdale

          NO NO NO..”that which is perfect did come already you only missed the entire gospel message of Christ!?!?….Jesus ALREADY RETURNED FOR THE “2ND” AND LAST TIME!?!………THE SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)…….Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES……. It is a biblical fact according to the bibles own figures that last days are the last 70 years of the number of years between BC596…to AD70 = 666 yrs the period of time outlined once as a MAN and once as a BEAST in Daniel Ch 2 & 7 respectively .as the time the 7 fold (7 seals/trumps vials) curse of the law of Moses was poured out on the physical seed of Israel purified until only a spiritual seed was left…
          Gal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.There are no more comings of Jesus and the day of the lord does not last for 24 hours!?!…….
          Even Islamic theology is waiting for the second coming of Christ but this is also how we know slam dunk that Muhammad was a false teacher…just like most “bible teaching Christians”……
          The book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most “Personally” given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?….There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”………………
          Revelation the First Gospel of the Kingdom
          978-1-4907-0590-3 (ISBN)
          Those looking for a physical return of Christ and your physical body to “leave the dirt” resurrected (1Cor 15:36-37) you are carnal mined & or living in prov 26:12
          DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!
          https://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly
          The second coming took place already and Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)
          22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)
          REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There is a parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.
          Rev 5:10..and we shall reign ON THE EARTH. (so, you think when Jesus comes back, he and the saints will be “ON THE EARTH”?!?)
          “Clouds ON Venus”……Clouds ON Mars………Clouds “ON EARTH”
          ..PERSPECTIVE!…PERSPECTIVE!….PERSPECTIVE!!!)
          1Thess 4:17…caught up together with them IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and SO SHALL WE EVER BE with the Lord……..
          You carnal minded fools, Jesus nor the raptured saints will step physical foot on the earth or physical city of Jerusalem….They live and reign “on the earth” ABOVE FROM the clouds!?! IN FACT, Jesus CAN’T!?!? (Jer 22:19-30/ Mat 1:11)
          Do you realize how schizophrenic it is to claim to be looking forward to going to heaven to be with a spiritual God in a new spiritual city (Heb 12:22/Rev 21:2) to be like the other spirits/ angles are while at the same time looking for a physical Jesus to return on the physical earth to reign in physical Jerusalem?!?!?….. hello?….is anybody home???!?
          The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong
          http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069 Revelation The First Gospel of The Kingdom
          or
          https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
          or
          https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
          978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

    • Firmament Does Exist

      UriYAH-LakAH (The Light is YAH) 3:16….the non Catholic translation
      YAHUWchanon answered them all, “I indeed immerse you with water but the One comes who is mighter than I, the strings of whose sandals I am not worthy to loosen. He will immerse you in YAHUWAH RUWach QadUWsha and in fire,
      17 whose winnowing fork in in His hand and He will though cleanse His threshing floor and will gather the wheat into His barn. Yet He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
      MarkUW (The Word is YAHUW) 16:16…non Jesuit translation
      He who embaces Me; that is he who embaces My Covenant Words and is immersed in My Eternal Name, YAHUWAH The King of The Family in YAH through YAHUW The Savoir will be saved but he who does not walk in Me, will remain condemned to eternal death.
      RomaniYA (The Yahuwans at Roma) 8:9
      But you are not in the flesh but in His RUWach, if it is so that His RUWach of Almighty Loving YA of All Creation dwells in you. Yet if any man does not have YAHUWAH’s RUWach, the Eternal King of The Family in YAH, he is not His.

  • goastdale

    2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE (Agape)of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

    #1 “ONE” not triune: ……PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12)
    Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT

    PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
    “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!
    JOHN 14: 8-20 ….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
    The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense
    TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
    - Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
    …… should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
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    #2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
    till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
    they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
    2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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    #3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
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      Even Islamic theology is waiting for the second coming of Christ but this is also how we know slam dunk that Muhammad was a false teacher…just like most “bible teaching Christians”…… THE SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)…….Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES……. It is a biblical fact according to the bibles own figures that last days are the last 70 years of the number of years between BC596…to AD70 = 666 yrs the period of time outlined once as a MAN and once as a BEAST in Daniel Ch 2 & 7 respectively .as the time the 7 fold (7 seals/trumps vials) curse of the law of Moses was poured out on the physical seed of Israel purified until only a spiritual seed was left….. .Jesus ALREADY RETURNED FOR THE “2ND” AND LAST TIME!?!……..There are no more comings of Jesus and the day of the lord does not last for 24 hours!?!…….
      .
      Gal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
      The book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most “Personally” given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?….There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”………………
      Revelation the First Gospel of the Kingdom
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (ISBN)
      Those looking for a physical return of Christ and your physical body to “leave the dirt” resurrected (1Cor 15:36-37) you are carnal mined & or living in prov 26:12
      DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly
      The second coming took place already and Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)
      22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)
      REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There is a parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.
      Rev 5:10..and we shall reign ON THE EARTH. (so, you think when Jesus comes back, he and the saints will be “ON THE EARTH”?!?)
      “Clouds ON Venus”……Clouds ON Mars………Clouds “ON EARTH”
      ..PERSPECTIVE!…PERSPECTIVE!….PERSPECTIVE!!!)
      1Thess 4:17…caught up together with them IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and SO SHALL WE EVER BE with the Lord……..
      You carnal minded fools, Jesus nor the raptured saints will step physical foot on the earth or physical city of Jerusalem….They live and reign “on the earth” ABOVE FROM the clouds!?! IN FACT, Jesus CAN’T!?!? (Jer 22:19-30/ Mat 1:11)
      Do you realize how schizophrenic it is to claim to be looking forward to going to heaven to be with a spiritual God in a new spiritual city (Heb 12:22/Rev 21:2) to be like the other spirits/ angles are while at the same time looking for a physical Jesus to return on the physical earth to reign in physical Jerusalem?!?!?….. hello?….is anybody home???!?
      The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069 Revelation The First Gospel of The Kingdom
      or
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
      or
      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

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