PART 7 THE TRINITY HERESY .."At the right hand"

PART 7 …AT the right hand

-But wait someone would say, I would never consider my right arm to be my son so why would God consider his right arm to be his son?…… Because of the physical birth of male human flesh that was born as a “son of man” (that was in fact God himself) and as such belongs to God. Was it Mary’s son or God’s son? It is simply a matter of perspective. The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession “of God”) Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! ..

-It is superfluous even fallacious to insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father because Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like men do ?!?!… God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it states “I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the servant/Right arm sent is a different person then the father who sent his right arm/ “My servant” the son. Jesus is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of God until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be God’s own hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth) had always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and Holy Spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm (that comes to “man” via a physical birth ergo called the “son of man” & “Son of God”) and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image.

-To have different persons (in the “God-head” et al) each with their own unique spirit or person from the other two persons and subservient to just one of those spirit-persons makes a hierarchy of god persons just like the Greek gods. The only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three as opposed to any other number in the other pagan pantheon of gods. Simply, claiming “no it is not a pantheon of gods. We confess God is one nature/substance/being with three different persons (composing the god-head)”, simply moves the location of your pantheon from Mt Olympus up to heaven into God’s head (but the pantheon is still there, Further, having multiple persons in one head is a mental illness it is not “divine”) !?!

-A tree is known by the fruit it bears. The fact that God said he is “one” and someone came along and contradicts that and states “God is three in one” should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three (“in one”/ et al) is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image! The worship of different persons who are each God with different degrees/amounts of god knowledge, god power and god authority that authorize and send each other around on different missions is the practice of polytheistic pagans who worship their gods, NOT Christians. Simply calling all of your different gods, “God” does not change the fact that you are worshiping multiple different god persons. Claiming that worship of three different persons is the worship of only one deity is not just a contradiction in scripture and terms but just as ridiculous as taking a ford pickup truck and replacing the hood (and all other emblems) ornament(s) with a Mercedes-Benz emblem on it then trying to pass it off as a Mercedes sedan!?!

- What is even more curiously hypocritical is the fact that according to the Trinitarian reasoning, God is not capable of being only one person in three parts. NO NO, however, on the other hand they are quick to point to how great God, past our human understanding and our limited feeble minds He is as the reason for why we should just accept that God can be one being with three different persons as a “god-head”. The coherent and consistent approach to the one person godhead is thrown out in favor of the incomprehensible three person God because God is so great he could do that. They will say we don’t have to understand it because we can’t and must not put limits on God. However, on the other hand, they will deny that God is great enough to be only be one person who is the father and the same person who is the son and the same person who is the holy spirit (even though that is how he describes himself.) God is not great enough to be and do that. In any case, the Trinitarian’s treat their god to only be as great and incomprehensible in the way and for the reason they imagine the God to be. Trinitarinas have no difficulty “seeing” (never mind they also claim it is impossible to fully understand) that God is three different persons (with three different minds and or three different locations with different amounts of knowledge, power and authority that send each other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different modes bodies (physical/spiritual He occupies) of all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for they reasons that they say God is past (your) “feeble” human understanding, but they in their “humility”, accept that fact; and “be damned” what anyone or any scriptures have to say otherwise about it.

- God is a omnipresent spirit so God did not need to detach any part of himself he just simply used that part of his omnipresent self and put it in/ attached it to the flesh that would be born male (son)  human flesh without ever being separated or detached from that part of himself……God did not detach anything…GOD can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time as such any part of God can be anywhere he so chooses to “place it”  so a better conceptualization is the other diagrams ………and NO the devil is not God’s left arm nor is he even a part of God, the devil is NOT God..( he is a created being)

-  I am a father and a son; I am only one person. Likewise God is father and son and is only one person…The difference is I am a human I cannot be my own son or my own father ….WHY?

The circumstance of God’s person is different then the circumstance of my person

My person exist and is limited  it had a beginning an origin/genesis…….God’s person is eternal self existent and does NOT require a beginning or origin to exist …that is why he can claim the beginning and the end….I cannot not…a father is the beginning the son is the end of that cycle as a created being with a beginning  or origin I cannot be my own beginning as such cannot complete my own origins.

The only reason I cannot be my own father is that as a father I had a beginning so I had to FIRST BE A SON BEFORE I BEGAME A FATHER…….BUT GOD DID NOT HAVE TO BE A SON BEFORE HE BECAME A FATHER…I cannot be my own father because of my finite circumstance (I had a beginning, as a created human) not because a number of persons defines what a father is or who can be a father or son. The Human flesh of Jesus had a beginning and was created but the person and spirit of that man Jesus was God and had always existed before the son of man came to be. What makes and defines what IT IS TO BE a father and a son is not a certain number of different persons but rather and simply circumstance. The son of God was born and thus became the son of god when and only when that part of Gods eternal self was born into the physical world into male human (ergo “son”) flesh was born….It was God and that male human flesh (ergo son) was the sole possession of God as such it was  “OF GOD” ( belonging to God)…not a different person..

God had NO SON before Christ was born…….. it makes this point clear in the OT as well as in the NT period! ..But YES JESUS HAD ALWAYS EXISTED!?!

OT…..Ecclesiastes 4:8. There is ONE ALONE, and there is NOT A SECOND; yea, HE HATH NEITHER CHILD (BEN/SON) nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail…………………(Solomon here is mentioning in his discourse  and making reference to  GOD  as comparison/ contrast to the vanity of men….Solomon here is NOT talking about  himself nor is he talking about some or any old lonely man that happens to be out there…. i only mention this because i get the most ridiculous comments sometimes)

NT……Heb 1:5 Thou art my Son, THIS DAY (at a certain point & specific day)………. HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again, WHEN HE BRINGETH IN The first begotten into the world ………… ?

John 17: 4-5 does not help the trinitarians because as demonstrated JESUS has ALWAYS Existed but NOT always as a son and John 17: 4-5 does not say that Jesus was a son before the world began it ONLY speaks to the fact that Jesus who is the son was in existence with the father before the foundation of the world….Again trinitarian faulty exegesis. They like to ignore the plain scriptures in favor of oblique references and interpret them in a way that directly contradicts clear passages and even though John 17:4-5 is still just as true just as describe here as the right arm of God that would latter come and be born into male (son) human flesh …..The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession “of God”) Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! …..Except you believe it you will die in your sins..

-There is alot of perspective that folks seem to gloss over and do not consider. Of course Jesus has always existed because Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God considered his right hand that God would send and put into flesh via a physical birth…However, from another perspective it is just as equally true that, Jesus the man ( “son of man”/ “son of God”) did not exist before he was born into the flesh (ergo Ps 2:7…this day have I begotten thee; Lk 1:35. )….because before he was born into the flesh he was just God specifically the right arm of God that was promised to come latter. That part of God that God would send into flesh has always existed but that part of God has not always existed in flesh or as a man!?!…..Thus when folks argue over or point fingers on whether or not Jesus existed before he was born into the physical world has everything to do with perspective. No man (or “son of man”) existed for all of eternity prior to the time before God (Jesus) created Man….There was only God (Jesus) who created man and all things…This brings us to another important point and concept to understand. Man is a spirit animating flesh. When God put himself  (that part of his eternally existent self)  into flesh via a physical birth then God literally became a man and a son. That son of man did not exist prior to the point that man was born. However, that part of the spirit of God that was born into that flesh had always existed because it is God in the same way that if I put my right hand into a leather glove (of human flesh) that part of me that is put into that leather glove existed before during and after it leaves that leather glove of flesh. Never the less, the man did not exist until the male human flesh (son) Jesus was born. The God which is the spirit because God is a spirit and Jesus is God had always existed before he was born into the world but he did not exist as a man (or “son of man”) prior to the time that he himself as God created man/ “son of man”!?! Before the son came into the world he was only considered to be the right hand of God, that would come and when it did he would be called the only begotten son of God, for the very reason that while many have been called “sons of God” Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN son God had via a human women!?!?

-NO God did not create a right arm at any point in time…that eternal part of God that God himself considers to be his right arm that has ALWAYS existed came to be born into human male flesh and at that point because of the birth and male human flesh became THE SON OF GOD….by virtue of circumstance NOT by virtue of being newly created..!?!? Jesus as THE SON had a point in time in which he BEGAN to be a son…….but Jesus had always existed because the man Jesus is that part of God that God considers to be his own right arm that God would send via a physical natural birth into human male (son) flesh!?!

ONE & THE SAME PERSON, HOW much more clear could he have stated it!?!?

Trinitarians ignore 70 percent of the scriptures with specific references to his single person and nature expressed parts in favor of relegating that to “figures of speech and rely instead upon obscure inferences that do not demand additional persons to go on…Our God is not being deceitful but Trinitarinas do not understand why our God would leave it such a “could go/ see it,  either way” issue………..1Kings 22:22; Isaiah 66:4; 2 thess 2:11….….choke choke cough, choke it all down…Rom 1:20.  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse;…..

First: “CLEARLY SEEN” …”EVEN HIS GODHEAD”………Can’t appeal to “beyond the limited human mind to comprehend” …..Can’t appeal to “Incomprehensible”. This Trinitarian idea of God head is nowhere to be seen certainly not clearly by “the things which are made such that they are without excuse” (no, it is “incomprehensible” by their own pious “confessions of faith”/ arguments …?!?)….On the other hand we shall “explore” & “discover” from what IS in the scriptures what IS and can be “CLEARLY SEEN” without employing vain imaginations under the guise of humility and piety in the face of an “awesome” and “incomprehensible God” / God-head.

Second: Where do folk get the idea that “the GODHEAD” is some mystical “head” that has three persons in side of it?! (as if the fact “the god head” is a mystical concept that somehow imply intrinsically a head not like your head but a special head that is multiple different persons in it ..where does that even come from?!?) In fact, the original Greek & English words used had nothing to do with “a head” or body part period. The Greek word as in acts 17:29 the Greek word is “theios” (means “godness” or godlike/divinity)Roms 1:20 “theiotes” (means divinity/ divine nature) Colossians 23:20 “theotes” (means divinity/ divine nature)  Where here the greek word goes into Old English as the word “godhad” which is “divine nature” was first used. Latter, in a couple of places the words & old English were translated/transformed into middle English as the word “godhede” (Middle English -hede, cognate with -hood and German -heit. Along with maidenhead, this is the sole survival of this form of the suffix) by John Wycliffe in the 1300’s.   It was simply a translational transformation (similar to the  Greek word transformation from  Iēsous via the Latin into English as  “Jesus”!?!)

While the old English word “had” and middle English word “hede” as pronounced can sound kinda like the modern English word “head” the meaning of the word “God -HEDE” has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a head/body part period even in the English language! Incorporating the idea of a “head” (body part) into “hood” (essence or “ness”) simply and solely because the word “hede” has a similar sound to “head” from middle English to modern English is nothing more then a slight of hand transformation/ incorporation/ redefinition of terms!!

But now when folks hear the word Godhead they think oooo the mystical head of God that somehow intrinsically means that God has a head with different persons “running around” greeting each other inside of it!?! The word in the text simply means GODHOOD or godness …..It does NOT mean a head with multiple personality disorder.

It matters not how exactly how a omnipresent God is able to describe himself in and with Anthropomorphic terms and or concepts The fact it He does and in the very context of the creation that was made in his own image. So our faith either rest in that to be understood just as one man is made in the image of God or in  rejection of that and instead in favor of some other invented nature and chalk up all the contradictions and inconsistencies to a “grand incomprehensible magnificent nature of God” created in the image of men’s imaginations.

This leaves everyone with the question who or what the church should rely on, the “creeds from Rome” or should we “learn in us not to think of men beyond what is written (in the scriptures) and rely and what the scriptures themselves say about the father, son and holy spirit?  Trinitarians are doing nothing but playing ignorant, blaming the ignorance and irrationality on humility in spite of what God clearly stated and wanted you to know about himself. That is a sure path to a “just reward” of eternal torment.

But, this is the typical Trinitarian mindset, confusion and irrational doctrines make perfect sense while ordinary and obvious explanations will seem confusing and difficult to grasp or comprehend. Pay special attention to that 20th clause of the Athianasis creed. What it states is nothing less then; each person of the trinity is God by himself but the church is forbidden to say there are three Gods….In effect, know they worship three different gods but choose to live in denial and refuse to confess it like a liar who knows he is lying but “confessing” he speaks the truth and denounces all lies!?!

A “godhead” with three different persons in it is not a god it is a freak show of pagan origins in ritualistic bragging rights. The pagans dearly love the “monsters” in their heads they worship as gods and want you to worship and pay homage to them also. The worship of three different persons who are each God is polytheism with different wrapping paper and a bow on top. Trinitarians are nothing more then pagans who have attempted and continue “successfully” to co-opt Christ for their own lies and wicked purposes. However, in fact they only preach “another Jesus” and “another gospel” (2Cor 11:4). They are polytheistic pagans who masquerade as Christians and point to the fact that they have so many adherents as evidence that they are with the true church and have the true doctrine. It is quite cleaver if you think about it. The devil gets such a large number of his own followers to call themselves Christians that their numbers exceed the actual membership of the true Christians and in so doing confuse if possible even some of the elect of the true church. Thus, one might be wise to remember that when considering “orthodoxy”.

What Trinitarians want to leave you with is a denial that Jesus is the part (the right arm) of God, no sir, you cant take that literally (never mind that is exactly the way or how God himself explains it) you should know that is not what God was describing and intended for us to understand……………The fact is,  they would say is that description is modalism (or some other “ism”) and that is a well known heresy decided long long ago according to numerous church councils ……………. Instead you must listen to us (the god is three different persons folks) who describe God and son using terms and concepts not found anywhere in scripture and present a incomprehensible “being”. The justification for ignoring God and going with their own vain ideas of a “incompressible being” and or “god head”  is that……. Well, God is so great you know ….

Finally, take careful note of the contrast between a mere fool and the man described in this verse,

Prov 26:12.  Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

The Trinitarians make God the heretic and their denials of this fact is no different then a whore who would denounce prostitution as evil and a work of darkness and then turn right around and describe what she does “I confess” as “It is not prostitution” but rather “ spreading love and comfort to all who need it most”… (Ad nauseam)  They actually brag that they are so pious for denouncing this “false doctrine” of  Modalism, Sabellianism et al  !?!.

It is rather curious how trinitarins will attempt to appeal to the very verses that destroy their own arguments practically “bragging” in their attempts at claiming that the contradictions they create, but ignore, “prove” their doctrine is valid?! Their arguments are not logical, rational or even “honest”. If you cant grasp what “ONE GOD” means you have as much chance of grasping any deeper theology and or getting to heaven as a snowball in hell has of freezing the rest of hell over with ice!?!  YOU LITERAL GOD DANMED FOOLS!?! This is not  a profanity nor is it my curse upon you or a wish for you ….it is simply a fact of the state of affairs to which you reside…

-The following diagram graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at the same time (omnipresence) … If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put God into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live in that He projects himself into. (God in diagram is the ‘infinate” white portion of the paper that extends in all directions projecting himself into heaven & earth dipected by the blue area/enviroments where angles green & men brown)

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