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A simple question for those that wait for a “rapture”.

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  A simple question for the “rapture” folks





Here in John 6 we find Christ explaining when He will raise – UP — “ALL” those His Father has given HIM..


35  and Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36  But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37  “All”   that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38  For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39  And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me,that of “allwhich he hath given me I should lose nothing,

but should raise it up againat the last day.

40  And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth  (2334) the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life:

and I will raise him up at the last day.


        More then just “looking at or seeing” Jesus is required.

2334 theōréō (from 2300 /theáomai, “to gaze, contemplate”) – gaze on for the purpose of analyzing (discriminating).

[2334 (theōréō) is the root of the English term "theatre," i.e. where people concentrate on the meaning of an action (performance).]


41  The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

42  And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

43  Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:

and I will raise him up at the last day.

 45  It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

47  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48  I am that bread of life.

49  Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50  This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51  I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52  The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?

 53  Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54  Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life;

and I will raise him up at the last day.

55  For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

 56  He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57  As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.


If a person does not eat the flesh of Christ and drink His blood there is no eternal life in them — so states our Savior —

Note: Christ did not say “take Me into their hearts”!

            One must take the blood and body of Christ into their body.

 58  This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59  These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.



Here is a question for all that wager their eternal life on a rapture to the third heaven —-


 Is a pre tribulation rapture  The “LAST” DAY??


Jesus Christ states four times HE WILL RAISE UP THOSE THE FATHER GAVE HIM AT  —  “THE LAST DAY”.

Are there not many more days remaining after the tribulation?

Paul states at the “Last Trump” is when the dead and those remaining alive are born again i.e. changed from corruptible to incorruptible – resurrected into Spirit bodies exactly the same as Christ now has. See Phil 3; 21.  Born again but this 2nd time into Eternal Spirit .

Are not the 7 Trumpet Plagues of the 7th Seal the very last events before the return of Jesus Christ to earth as KING of kings??

And do not the 7 Trumpets follow the Tribulation??

Please explain how anyone can wait for a rapture in light of the above Words of Jesus Christ?

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    Deathseeker….The rapture will REMAIN a Mystery to you, the churches are a Mystery to you, the Parables Y’shua gave to “His People called by His NAME” are a Mystery to you…Matey the Day of Christ the Day of the Lord :arrow: ..BEGINS with US… :arrow: FIRST :idea: the BRIDE the “body of Christ”….REAL CHRISTIANS :wink:

    Your Trumpet scenario is :arrow: NULL and Void :idea: as they are trumpets of Angels

    The Bride is called at the Last trumpet of :arrow: GOD…1 Thessalonians 4:16

    “with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first”….NOTICE FIRST….Judgement starts at the House of God FIRST…1 Peter 4:17

    Seeker a bit of advise leave Scripture alone you’ve spent nearly 50 yrs study and all you do is just make things worst for YOURSELF!! :roll:

    …your a DENIER of the Word Of God… “as it is written” a :twisted:

    What you’ve taken away “will be taken away from you” ….the Bride goes to the third Heaven @ His :arrow: Appearing as He PROMISED….Parable in Matt 25

    Rapture is Promised…by the Word of God and His promises (to HIS PEOPLE NOT YOU) …which you make Null & VOID… :roll: because you are NOT a Real Christian …your a Faker

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