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Mary of Nazareth, Mother of God

Thursday, November 3, 2016 23:36
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Why was Mary chosen to be the mother of Jesus? The Gospel of Matthew doesn’t give us a clue. All of what we find is in the Gospel of Luke which states that she found great favor with God. Why? Her humility and devotion are all that are revealed (Luke 1:48). The mystery of her choosing thus precedes this mystery of the Incarnation.

Yeshua – Jesus – didn’t find the garment of human flesh, and one of a woman, disgusting. He exalted it in His very Incarnation when He entered the womb of humanity and human history as a fragile infant.

The first woman recorded in the Bible to give God a name was Hagar, Sarah’s slave and Abraham’s concubine. She called Him, El Roi, “The God who sees” (Genesis 16:13):

And she called the name of the Lord who spoke unto her: “Thou God seest me.” For she said, “Have I also here looked upon Him that seeth me?”

He saw Hagar’s low status and personally visited her. He exalted her and gave her a future, and she became the matriarch of the Arab peoples. She was a slave woman from the land of Egypt and she was eventually freed from the hand of Sarah, though she went through much travail in the wilderness. God preserved her and caused her own descendants through Ishmael to also be vast in number.

That Yeshua then – who was conceived by the Spirit of God and entered our world through the womb of Mary, through a woman…this is the most amazing thing to me.  Yeshua, Son of Humankind – becoming clothed in Mary’s flesh, her blood, her bone, thus partaking of our humanity (Luke 1:26-38).

Even in is resurrection from the dead, Yeshua retains His humanity, a humanity no longer vulnerable to death. He didn’t shed it to become a spirit. Human nature became redeemed in Him, healed, made incorruptible by the divine.

“…Thereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature…” (2 Peter 1:4).

It is difficult for me to understand why many Christians are quick to disregard Mary. Many feel that honoring her takes the place of honoring Yeshua, but how many Christians would say that about loving their own mothers? Does loving and caring and honoring one’s own mother subtract from one’s love for Yeshua? Of course not.

And it’s also one of the Ten Commandments. Yeshua said that all the law, the Torah of Moses and the writings of the Prophets are contingent upon love. They are contingent upon the law of the Spirit, and the law of conscience. Love should not have to be commanded. Love should reflect what true Torah is, what one’s inner Torah should be. And as the sages have said, one should “be Torah.”

Without understanding the context, many Christians like to point to verses such as Matthew 12:46-50, or John 2:4, to form some kind of absurd idea that Yeshua disdained His own mother. But to advocate that is to accuse Him of iniquity for the Torah says: “Honor thy father and thy mother,” (Exodus 20:12; Deuteronomy 5:16). In fact, Jesus cited this very commandment (Matthew 19:19). Furthermore, He chided the religious leaders for making excuses to avoid it (Mark 7:9-13; Matthew 15:3-6).

Mary is sometimes relegated to a mere vessel through which Yeshua – the Son of God; God in human flesh – came into the world. Even by other women. But she, too, was a woman with natural and God-given rights in charge of her own destiny, just as much as any woman should be. And God chose her to not simply “bear” the Messiah. He chose her as His Mother, to raise Him, to nurture Him, to be a guiding influence in His life. She chose to respond and embrace that. And for the first few years of Yeshua’s life, just as it is with any child, Mary was at the center of His world.

Mary bore the Son of God, even though she was a virgin. Ancient Orthodox theology teaches that “He whom even the Heavens could not contain was contained in Mary’s womb” – because Yeshua is fully God as well as fully Human – and it is for this reason she is called “more spacious than the Heavens.”

What is so unscriptural about hymning, “Hail, thou that art highly favored, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women” ? These are the very words of the Angel of the Lord (Luke 1:28). Even he was in awe of her, as was Mary’s cousin Elizabeth. 

“And why is it granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy” (Luke 1:42-44).

Should not awe be our response, too?

Remember what Mary said in her rejoicing?

And Mary said, “My soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior. For He hath regarded the low estate of His handmaiden; for behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For He that is mighty hath done to me great things, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on them that fear Him, from generation to generation. He hath shown strength with His arm; He hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. He hath filled the hungry with good things, and the rich He hath sent empty away. He hath helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy, as He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his seed for ever” (Luke 1:46-55).

God the Son has always been God the Son – the Word from everlasting – Who was now conceived, and flesh, in the womb of Mary. There was never a time when He was not God the Son Who shared in the glory of God the Father before the very creation of the world and from time immortal (John 1; John 17). 

Blessed be the Lord Yeshua the Messiah, King of Heaven and Earth, Who is King of kings and Lord of lords, upon Whom the Father bestowed all authority in Heaven and on Earth! Blessed be the Lord Yeshua Who partook of a woman’s humanity and Who has been given the highest glory by His Father (Matthew 28:18; Matthew 11:27; John 17:5, 24); Who will gather the outcasts and heal the broken. He will grant to those who seek Him the Kingdom of Heaven and to those who partake of Him the Heaven of Himself!

(Matthew 11:27-30; 28:18; John 17:5, 24; Revelation 17:14; 19:16)

Glory to Yeshua the Messiah! Glory to Him forever!

Scripture quotations taken from the 21st Century King James Version®, copyright © 1994. Used by permission of Deuel Enterprises, Inc., Gary, SD 57237. All rights reserved.

Sources:

1. The Lost Gospel of Mary: The Mother of Jesus in Three Ancient Texts. Frederica Mathews-Green, © 2007. Paraclete Press.

2. On the Imitation of the Mother of God. Mother Maria Skobtsova: Essential Writings. Pgs. 61-74. Translated by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky, © 2003 by Orbis Books.

Web:

http://www.berdyaev.com/skobtsova/imitatio_Bogomater.html

3. Annunciation of Our Most Holy Lady, the Mother of God and Ever-Virgin Mary, March 25, 2014. Royal Doors Liturgical Texts and Music. Web. Available Nov. 7, 2014.

http://lit.royaldoors.net/2014/03/01/march-25-2014-annunciation-of-our-most-holy-lady-the-mother-of-god-and-ever-virgin-mary  

4. Dormition of the Theotokos. The Orthodox Church in America. Web. Available Aug. 15, 2016.
 
https://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/worship/the-church-year/dormition-of-the-theotokos

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  • The problem is that instead of viewing Mary as a woman highly favored by God, the desire of all women who were hoping to be that virgin prophesied of old (Dan. 11:37), the Catholic and Orthodox churches have turned her into an idol to worship. She was a unique woman, who gave birth to our Lord and Savior, the promised Messiah. But, she is not our example. Christ is our example!

    You cannot substitute prayers to here, as she is not listening to them. When you pray to her you are practicing idolatry. All prayers are to be addressed to our Father which is in heaven. (Matt. 6:9, Luke 11:2). And, all prayers are to be in the name of Jesus, or Yeshua, if you prefer to speak Hebrew. (John 15:16)

    I have some sympathy for the Orthodox church, but you / they are still practicing much Catholicism that is pagan idolatry, and are using sources outside the Bible for your basis of belief.

    • Yes, Christ is most assuredly our supreme example (Matthew 25:31-40) and He taught that we are to love others as He Himself loved us (John 15:12-13). He is fully divine as well as fully human- but we can’t identify with His divinity because we are not divine. However we can identify with Mary because she is fully human. How can her emphatic “Thus be it done to be according to Thy word” not be our example? The Orthodox Church does not worship Mary, but she is rightly called the Mother of God because Jesus has always been God the Son. Even Martin Luther- leader of the Protestant Reformation – believed this. The real issue here is whether one believes Jesus is truly divine- the Son of God- as well as God the Son, the Logos through Whom all things were created and in Whom all things have their being. He is the Author of Life. As such- He has always been God the Son- even when He became incarnate in Mary’s womb. If one has no problem with that, then one would have no problem with Mary as the Mother of God (God the Son).

      Mary, just like all who have departed from this life in Jesus Christ, are still alive in Him, because He promised that all in Him would pass from life to death and that they would never die. Thus we can ask for their intercessions on our behalf. It is no more to put them above Christ (which we don’t) than it would be to ask the intercessions of our friends and family here on earth. I am sorry that you feel as though we need your sympathy, however, none of this is idolatrous belief.

      • (…”Thus be it done to me…” not “be” typo)

      • My apologies for all the typos and for any confusion that they might cause…The last paragraph, first sentence should read: “He promised that all in Him would pass from death to life..”

      • What you call “intercession” the Bible calls “mediation” and there is but one…

        For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

        … 1 Tim 2:5

        Mary is dead, stop worshiping dead people, necromancer.

        • You neglected to include 1 Timothy 2:1

          “I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men…”

          You confuse the Biblical terms of mediation and intercession.

          (1) Mary and the saints are alive in Christ, and as such are still members of the Body of Christ who can intercede for us (2) We worship none but the Triune God (3) and we most assuredly aren’t necromancers.

          • By “we” do you mean Catholics? If so…

            https://www.osv.com/Portals/4/EasyDNNNews/13458/822643p13567EDNMain1345820131125cnsbr2772.jpg

            … what’s in the black box?

          • Orthodox, not Catholic.

            The black box contains relics of St. Peter.

            We recognize that though we may be dead in the flesh, we can still be alive with Christ in the spirit till the day that He reunites us body and soul and raises us up as He Himself was raised (John 6:40, 44, 54)

            Do you remember what He said to the Sadducees? That God said, “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living (Matthew 22:32), thus Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are alive in spirit with God. Do you remember the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus? Lazarus was carried to Abraham’s bosom by the angels when he died and was seen with Abraham (Luke 16). Do you also remember who appeared with Christ at His transfiguration? Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17).

          • What’s more 1 Timothy 2:1 was an exhortation given by Paul to Timothy who was alive at the time. You need to show a passage where dead people are called to intercede.

          • Relics of Peter, huh, so worshiping another dead guy? Orthodox/Catholic same thing. Want to see pictures of Kirill worshiping the dead?

            Semantics aside I’m talking about living/breathing folk and you are talking of souls and bodily remains. Not anything like the same thing.

            You with your three gods.

          • Show me a scripture where it says the departed are no longer members of the Body of Christ, of His Church. They still are; and as such they still intercede for us because we are called to love one another and intercession is an act of love. Christ doesn’t refer to them as dead in Him, but alive.

            Also read Hebrews 12:1

            “Therefore, seeing we also are compassed about by so great a cloud of witnesses…” We are surrounded by the saints who are encouraging us.

            Also, read Revelation 5:8

            “And when He had taken the book, the four living beings and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps and golden vials full of incense, which are the prayers of saints.”

          • To think we worship three gods is to misunderstand the Trinity completely.

          • I take it, then, you know of no passage regarding dead people being called to intercede. Fair enough.

            So who are the great cloud of witnesses from Hebrews 12? All those who came before and died in the faith and the testimony of their witness is found written in the book.

            And what do we know of the dead…

            For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. – Ecc 9:5-6 (see also Isaiah 26:14)

            … hmm?

            With regard to how we should pray Matthew and Luke both quoted Jesus where he said…

            “Pray, then, in this way: Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.”

            … and i don’t see any mention of Mary there.

          • To conclude as you have is to pay no attention to a single response given to you. Maybe when you are truly sincere in seeking you’ll take more seriously the passages and responses already shown to you rather than ignore them.

          • I ignored nothing but merely showed where your exegesis caused contradictions to arise.

            Tell yourself whatever justifications you like but others might conclude you have no answer and have decided to quit.

          • I have been patient with you. It is you who have been unable to respond to any passage or response shown to you nor have you been willing to consider them. It is you who have quit, not I, even though you wish to make it sound otherwise. In this you deny the legitimacy of Christ’s own words when He said, “He who believes in me will never die” (John 11:26). How can you acknowledge any of the passages or responses I’ve given when you go that far? Thus, we simply have no common ground between us.

          • And right before that Jesus said to Martha…

            “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;” – John 11:25

            … so it’s obvious He’s talking about the resurrection that is yet in the future.

            But you’re right about there being no common ground between us. Interestingly, aside from the Trinity, there’s loads of common ground between Orthodoxy and Islam. Like how you’re both Nuns & Ninja’s and into your vain repetitions counted out using strings of beads. You both believe the Holy Spirit is a being. You both revere the Moon god & Sun god. You both indulge in Holy Wars.

            Heck you should have no trouble converting seeing how close you are.

          • Mayhem

            “Pray, then, in this way: Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.”

            … and i don’t see any mention of Mary there.

            ======

            OUR father

          • Any mention of praying to Mary, Damn El, and you’d know that’s what was meant if you’d bothered to read the exchange.

          • Alone Mayhem

            You will be praying ALONE

            So HOW are you gonna do it?

            “OUR Father…” :twisted:

          • Grovelling apologetic answers in your own time! :roll:

          • What are you quibbling about, Damn El?

            Whether i pray as the hypocrites do or go into my room and close the door my Father…

            “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen”. – Matthew 6:6

            … is our Father.

            Would you prefer i copy-n-paste the entire Sermon on the Mount?

          • When you pray in Jesus name … what are you doing?

            Going “Yeshooby Yeshooby Dooby Yeshooby Dooby Doo Doo Doo Doooo!”

            Or

            Are you ‘speaking’ to the Father on His behalf, for Him?

            What do we do when we speak on the behalf of others we are one? WE use the pronouns ‘We / Our’.

            THIS is how I read ‘Our Father …’

            But this ‘WE’ would not just be Me Me Me and Jesus.

            Alone and in private too it would be the ‘We’ Jesus was instructing.

            The Church

            The Bride.

            We CANNOT pray to the Father without the mediatrix because it MUST be as US (Jesus included) that WE pray to the Father.

          • On what basis to you equate “in His name” with “for him”?

          • That it must ALWAYS be ‘in Jesus’ name’ that prayers are made to ONLY the Father means that it will only be prayer when, essentially, it flows on from

            “OUR Father..”

            A prayer is something that you can only do when you are doing it ‘in Jesus’ name’.

        • Do you think the Lord’s prayer was constructed as badly as all my posts?! :oops: :oops: :oops:

          How do you understand ‘In His name’ then?

          Yeshooby Dooby Doo?

          ‘In His name’, in the context of ‘Our Father’, means referring to Him TOO

          • No, Damn El, it’s only your posts that are poorly constructed. In fact many folk have no idea what you blabber on about but i labour to figure you out although i hardly know why.

            Anyway this discussion was about praying to Mary and if you have anything to say on the matter then i’m all ears.

            If not then it would seem that Prov 6:16-19 and Rom 16:17-18 describes precisely what you are trying to do.

          • Brethren (brothers)

          • Are you denying we both seek the same truth?

          • I have explained to you what I understand praying to the Father In Jesus’ Name’ means to me. That the medium (‘Our / Us / We) is the Bride. So now you only have to explain what, if anything, it means to you.

            People making sure to say Yeshooby Dooby Doo a lot instead of Jesus is not taken seriously by me

          • Are you denying we both seek the same truth?

            ===========

            I never said that.

          • Was there a high speed accident in your past Damien ?

            Did the Mystery Machine crash into a scary tree and spill your scooby snacks?

            :arrow: M A R Y

          • Maybe yes.

            I’m a twin.

            Born from the mediatrix 20 minutes after my ‘Lord’.

          • Our/Us/We refers to the body of Christ whereas i understand the bride to be the 144,000 and to use the term, as you did, is somewhat exclusionary.

            Where you say…

            “People making sure to say Yeshooby Dooby Doo a lot instead of Jesus is not taken seriously by me”

            … makes no sense given Yeshua is Jesus and even when better put is something for the Catholics/Orthodox to address given that vain repetitions are no part of my faith.

            The so called Lord’s Prayer (Matt 6) is an example of how we are to pray not what we are to say (Luke 11) when considered in light of 1 Thess 5:16-18 unless you would argue for contradictions in scripture. That it is said, as part of any prayer, serves to acknowledge who is in charge, what the two greatest commandments are and in whom we are saved.

          • The 144,000 is the body of Christ.

            It is just the 12 tribes that compose Israel times itself a large number (1000) of times.

            The 12 times 12 = self times self = virgins / self reproduction

          • Then who is the bride and if the 144,000 are the body of Christ then who are the great multitude, from every nation/tribe/people/language, that no one could count?

            High speed accident or dropped on your head as a baby?

          • The great multitude that no one could count is the uncountable / large number here represented by the number 1000.

            8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, and from the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand. 9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”…

            Christ is Israel and the 144,000 virgins are the body of Christ – Christians.

          • Except Revelation 7 describes them as two distinct groups and you’re adding to scripture with your argument.

            You must do better than that damn you.

          • And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
            =========

            If they have come out of Jacob’s trouble how can they not be the body of Christ?

            Enraptured by yourself now Mayhem?

          • Did you forget the verse about them also being part of the bride, Damn El, or does no such passage exist?

            I’m not saying that the bride is not part of the body just distinct, which is what “After this I looked” means. Did the first Adam marry his own body? If not then how shall the 2nd Adam do so?

            The bride is a sub-group, of the body, as far as i can tell and probably chosen before the foundation of the world.

          • Did the first Adam marry his own body?

            ========

            ??????????????????

            YES. :roll:

          • Following that logic dust married dust. You’re maybe being a little too literal.

            Anyway is there anything you’d like to say regarding praying to Mary?

          • Dust To Dust

            Jeebus and ME! is PROBABLY not a legit prayer

          • Probably not.

            So anything, about praying to Mary, anything at all?

            No?

          • The post Temple Judeans all head butting the Holy Wall are said to be praying to the Shekinah

            Shekinah, Shechinah, or Schechinah (Biblical Hebrew: שכינה‎‎), is the English transliteration of a Hebrew word meaning “dwelling” or “settling” and denotes the dwelling or settling of the divine presence of God. This term does not occur in the Bible, and is from rabbinic literature.

            Emmanuel

            God with …US

          • The Bride

          • “…Shekinah…”

            Is an utterly non-scriptural concept finding its roots in Kabbalah and the Talmuds.

            As if you didn’t already know that, Damien.

          • BEEF

            To be precise it only appears and spreads like wildfire AFTER Christianity.

            You believe that lots of things did.

  • Religion is man made, spirituality , God given.

    The Virgin Mary is Mother Nature, we are born a son of God.

    AMEN

    • In some ways, yes, but not all of religion is man-made for God gave laws to His people to follow and holy days to observe. Jesus Himself said that He did not come to destroy the Law, but to complete it (Matthew 5:17); that we are to observe the commandments (Matthew 5:19-20; 23:3), and that righteousness should not be limited to the letter of the Law, but exceed it. But He warned against being hypocritical like the scribes and Pharisees were, and not to follow man-made laws as if they were God-given (Matthew 15:1-9) or replace God’s law with man’s. The greatest commandment is the “Law” of love- that we love God with all our being and our neighbor as ourself (Matthew 22:36-40). Jesus said on these two “hang all the Law and Prophets.”

      Responding to the second part of your comment: “…we are born a son of God.”

      True, yet only in the sense that Adam was a son of God (Luke 3:38). However, Adam was created out of the dust of the earth. But all die in Adam (1 Corinthians 15:21-22):

      “For since by man came death, by Man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”

      Jesus said we “must be born again…of water and the Spirit” (John 3:3, 5) to “enter into the Kingdom of God.”

      Jesus is uniquely the begotten Son of God, conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and taking on human flesh through the Virgin Mary. His deity became clothed in human nature (Luke 1:35).

      We also read in the Gospel of John (John 1:1-3, 14):

      “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made…as many as received Him, to them He gave power to become the sons of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only Begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”

      Jesus said (John 3:16):

      “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

      Jesus destroyed the power of sin and death through His own death and resurrection that we may have eternal life in His Name. Because He lives, we will too.

      As for Mary and Mother Earth, you might enjoy St. Maria Skobtsova’s article: On the Imitation of the Mother of God, listed in my sources.

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