Since the days of 9/11, I have had many heated debates, on the subject of torture. Anyone, my age, or older, should have learned the lessons from Vietnam, and Korea, on torture.

During Korea, there were many horrific things done to American POWs, such as, freezing their feet, in buckets of water. More than 1,200 American POWs, confirmed by the Red Cross, held in Communist China, were never returned. Those that came home; forgotten.

The stories of the treatment, by the North Vietnamese, of American POWs is well documented. The survivors, still living, suffer from their abuse today, many years later.


All of the captives, held at the Hanoi Hilton, broke from their torture, made confessions of war crimes, and made propaganda movies, for the North Vietnamese. The reason they broke isn’t because they were weak, or cowardly. The purpose of torture isn’t to get information from people, but to punish, and to make the victim say whatever is required of him, by the torturers.


And now, a survivor, of the Hanoi Hilton, is doing the unthinkable. Senator John McCain, and Joe Lieberman, are introducing legislation to torture American, on American soil, or anywhere, of government choosing.


The New York Post is reporting, in this article;
McCain, Lieberman to introduce bill to ban civilian trials for enemy combatants (A misleading title)

Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Joe Lieberman (I-CT) are set to introduce sweeping legislation that will forbid detainees dubbed "enemy combatants" by the intelligence community from being read their Miranda rights, Fox News reported Thursday. 
This would have the effect of banning all civilian trials for such alleged terrorists, pushing those detainees into military commissions. 

The bill, the "Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010," lays out "comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected unprivileged enemy belligerents who are believed to have engaged in hostilities against the United States by requiring these individuals to be held in military custody, interrogated for their intelligence value and not provided with a Miranda warning," according to a release from McCain’s office.

The article goes on to quote Lindsey Graham;

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), an Air Force Reserves Judge Advocate General, told Fox he usually "understands what John and Joe are trying to do," but he added, "I just don’t feel comfortable with it. There is a role for the civilian courts to play."

Read the full article from The New York Post
The title of The New York Post article is misleading as it says enemy combatants, while it quotes from the bill enemy belligerents.

Let’s have a look at the bill, short titled; ‘‘Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010’’ You can read it, in pdf, by clicking the link.
The bill states it’s purpose;

To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.

We all know, at this point, that interrogation, is the new euphemism for torture. The word belligerent is used as a noun, so, I looked it up;

Function: adjective
Etymology: modification of Latin belligerant-, belligerans, present participle of belligerare to wage war, from belliger waging war, from bellum + gerere to wage
Date: 1577

1 : waging war; specifically : belonging to or recognized as a state at war and protected by and subject to the laws of war 
2 : inclined to or exhibiting assertiveness, hostility, or combativeness

Here, in the nightmare world, of George Orwell, we just move from euphemism, to euphemism. Terrorists become enemy combatants, and morph into enemy belligerents.

The Webster’s definition of, the noun, belligerent, says that a belligerent is subject to the rules of war, while the McCain/Lieberman bill says that only the privileged are. The McCain/Lieberman bill states.

Whenever within the United States, its territories, and possessions,or outside the territorial limits of the United States, an individual is captured or otherwise comes into the custody or under the effective control of the United States who is suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners through an act of terrorism, or by other means in violation of the laws of war,or of purposely and materially supporting such hostilities,and who may be an unprivileged enemy belligerent, the individual shall be placed in military custody for purposes of initial interrogation and determination of status in act in accordance with provisions of this act.

Without going through the bill, word, for word. It gives the President power to establish a high value detainee interrogation group.

Gives local law enforcement the authority to torture, or euphemistically, to interrogate.
Requires local law enforcement to turn belligerents over to the military.

Is a further federalization of law enforcement.

Anyone that is a suspect is denied Miranda rights.

Only after an individual has been tortured, at various levels of law enforced, is the suspect’s case reviewed at the Executive Branch, of the Federal Government. There is no real appeals process.
The detainee can be tortured for 48 hours before forwarding their case.

Individuals can be detained, and tortured, based on their intelligence value. What the hell is that suppose to mean, and who determines it?

Section 5 states that even citizens can be treated as prisoners of war, under the Geneva Conventions. We know that Bush did away with the Geneva Conventions. That means that citizens, viewed as suspects, can be tortured.

This bill also states that it is retroactive and can be used against anyone, for any action, prior to the enactment.

The Homeland Security Act, of 2002, was a formal declaration of war on the American people. American citizens have been the only targets of the Department of Homeland Security since it’s formation. DHS documents have stated, time, and again, that patriots, constitutionalists, returning war veterans, and veterans, in general, are the terrorists.

You, the propagandized,un-American Fascists, turned a blind eye to the evils of the Patriot Act. You applauded the death of the Constitution, and the Bill Rights. You followed an insane dictator, namely, George W. Bush, instead of holding to the principles of the Founding Fathers.

In your bigoted zeal,against Muslims, you have committed your own undoing with your false patriotism.

In one,of many,debates, with a false patriot, and after I had pointed out, the number of American, and Canadian citizens, falsely accused, and torture, it was said to me, “Why I don’t believe they will ever do that to white people.”

You turned a blind eye, thinking it would never happen to you. Well, here it is.

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