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Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State”

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Bill Binney is the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information.  A 32-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, Binney was the senior technical director within the agency and managed thousands of NSA employees.

Binney has been interviewed by virtually all of the mainstream media, including CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others.

Last year,Binney held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:

We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.

But today, Binney told Washington’s Blog that the U.S. has already become  a police state.

By way of background, the government is spying on virtually everything we do.

All of the information  gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.

The NSA also ships Americans’ most confidential, sensitive information to foreign countries like Israel (and here), the UK and other countries … so they can “unmask” the information and give it back to the NSA … or use it for their own purposes.

Binney told us today:

The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement. [See below].

These slides give the policy of the DOJ/FBI/DEA etc. on how to use the NSA data. In fact, they instruct that none of the NSA data is referred to in courts – cause it has been acquired without a warrant.

So, they have to do a “Parallel Construction” and not tell the courts or prosecution or defense the original data used to arrest people. This I call: a “planned programed perjury policy” directed by US law enforcement.

And, as the last line on one slide says, this also applies to “Foreign Counterparts.”

This is a total corruption of the justice system not only in our country but around the world. The source of the info is at the bottom of each slide. This is a totalitarian process – means we are now in a police state.

Here are the two slides which Binney pointed us to:

(Source: Reuters via RT)

We asked Binney a follow-up question:

You say “this also applies to ‘Foreign Counterparts.’”  Does that mean that foreign agencies can also “launder” the info gained from NSA spying?  Or that data gained through foreign agencies’ spying can be “laundered” and used by U.S. agencies?

Binney responded:

For countries like the five eyes (US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand) and probably some others it probably works both ways.  But for others that have relationships with FBI or DEA etc.,  they probably are given the data to used to arrest people but are not told the source or given copies of the data.

(See this for background on the five eyes.)

Past interviews of Binney by Washington’s Blog here, here, here, here, and here.

Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State” was originally published on Washington’s Blog

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    • Boxed in Freight

      Barack Obama shows birth certificate on Oprah Winfrey Show

      “We called up the folks in Hawaii…I knew I was born there, I remembered it” – BHO :lol: :lol: :lol:

      “Let’s ask them for a special dispensation where they will go ahead and provide us with the original to see if we can put this to rest…” – BHO :lol: :lol: :lol:

      And Mike Zullo of the Cold Case Posse after and extensive 23 month investigation that the birth certificate presented by the White House (Barack Obama) not only was a complete forgery, but never even existed as a document.

      And last but not least, there is this amazing video from Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans who told three radio stations that he spoke with Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie and Abercrombie told him there is no Hawaii birth certificate in Hawaii. – 1/27/2011 –

      :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • Neanderthal

        I looked for a city, village in Hawaii called Kenya and I could not find one either. :idea:

    • Dooley

      It’s amazing that so many, who were brought up in a free country, want to destroy it.

    • greenghost

      Duh of course we are a toltarian police state. Have been since Bush.

      • keeperofthefire

        greenghost,in reality,this country ,from day one has been a police state,controlled by the big banks!look at our history,this phoney country was built on the genocide of 18 million or more natives and free labor by black african natives!!from that point on,anyone who had the guts to strike against big business/rail,steel,coal,were attacked by police and the federal army,with many killed!!the difference now is unlike the generations past,up to the 1970s,stood up to these thugs until the gov. had no choice to back down!!!so,the problem now is how to wake up the dumbed down generations the last 0 years that have “taken the blue pill” and allowed these out of control/insane non humans destroying our planet!!!!!!! REVOLUTION NOW,or sure death!!!!!!!!

    • dimitri

      So if Binney is talking can we now cancel out all the diversionary chatter from the Snowden/Greenwald/WikiLeaks camps? What more do we need to know? Who Big Brother actually is? :cool:

    • Carl Collicott

      The Foreign intelligence Surveillance Act, FISA, allows the surveillance of a United States person by the NSA, the United States person is one who has been granted a license to export an item on the munitions list, clarified in Title 22 U.S.C. section 2778. The application form waives all rights to perceived privacy concerning phone calls, or records.
      (2) The term `United States persons’ has the meaning given that term under section 101(i) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801(i)).
      Authority: 41 U.S.C. 421 and 48 CFR chapter 1.
      (a) Definitions.
      As used in this clause–
      (1) Foreign person means any person other than a United States
      person as defined in Section 16(2) of the Export Administration Act of
      1979 (50 U.S.C. App. Sec. 2415

      TITLE 22 > CHAPTER 39 > SUBCHAPTER III > § 2778
      § 2778. Control of arms exports and imports
      (e) Enforcement powers of President
      In carrying out functions under this section with respect to the export of defense articles and defense services, the President is authorized to exercise the same powers concerning violations and enforcement which are conferred upon departments, agencies and officials by subsections ©, (d), (e), and (g) of section 11 of the Export Administration Act of 1979 [50 App. U.S.C. 2410 ©, (d), (e), and (g)], and by subsections (a) and © of section 12 of such Act [50 App. U.S.C. 2411 (a) and ©], subject to the same terms and conditions as are applicable to such powers under such Act [50 App. U.S.C. 2401 et seq.],
      (i) Report to Department of State
      As prescribed in regulations issued under this section, a :shock: to whom a license has been granted to export an item on the United States Munitions List shall, not later than 15 days after the item is exported, submit to the Department of State a report containing all shipment information, including a description of the item and the quantity, value, port of exit, and end-user and country of destination of the item.

    • liberal army veteran

      Getting worse by the day.

    • dodidolittle


      • scott

        Are you kidding?, Just vote!!! Lol, knew I couldn’t say that without laughing. Have a gun (or two) some food some water a place of shelter is a good start. And stay off of these alt news sites asking what you can do… not really we gotta try…

    • MissSandyBear

      Yes, the Bush administration has been greatly responsible for starting trends toward totalitarian states. :eek:

    • Bohunk

      When the guy who was the architect of the process says he helped create the police state says we now live in one, you must believe. A major correction is required. We need to put people with a totally different attitude into government. Let’s get back to a government by the people, for the people, and of the people. No more czars, dictator wannabes, or people with a privileged royalty attitude. Elect only those who want to serve their country honorably.

      • Serpentor

        I can’t believe you got down voted, must be some serious shilling going on here.

      • scott

        Voting is an illusion, the illusion of choice.

    • Neanderthal

      nice article, where have you been for the last 2 years. You need an NSA Official to relate this to you? WTF I think you took to much NYQUIL the Nightime remedy. Go back to sleep we will inform you when to WAKE UP.

    • Neanderthal

      I dont believe it.

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