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Hmm… Wonder Why the American Media Didn’t Report on This One?! Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings

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Beijing – Top officials of the Chinese Space Program have expressed their feelings that the American moon landings “were a complete hoax” reports the Beijing Daily Express.

200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a petition asking explanations from the American government and the release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space program capabilities.


These allegations have come up through recent analysis of pictures taken from the Chinese moon rover that allegedly found no traces of the American moon landings existing on the moon.

World renowned Russian nuclear engineer Yury Ignatyevich Mukhin has also signed the petition as well as a dozen other top Russian engineers and ex-KGB agents claiming the Russian Government “had always been aware of the situation since the early 1970′s”

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    • ElOregonian


      • HereAmI

        Too late, brother.
        The money’s already safely stashed in Tel Aviv.

        • G.M.

          :lol: Because Neither Went to the Moon :lol:

          Air bubbles coming out of Chinese Asstronots Face Masks All Fake News like BIN

          • truthlovingsoul

            yes and yes.

            funny how after the ball earth hoax has gained massive momentum, proving the moon is not terra firma and only a luminary, that china comes out with this horsesh*t to further perpetuate the MYTH that they are 100% on board with propagating.


            next week, russia will say some other bullsh*t about some other ‘planet’ or some ‘deep space’ probe……..

            all these liars need a good probin.


            the earth is a plane. everything we know is a lie. we are divine beings, not an accident of some explosion. pfft.

            • G.M.

              Both the Sun and Moon are suppose to be Artificial Constructs created from Elements and Very Close and suppose to be a very Large Cloaked UFO between Earth and the Moon, maybe that one in Nuremberg in 1561, that was shaped like a Spear

              They say that is a 2nd Moon and the 1st Moon crashed into Earth when it was destroyed, that’s most likely in the Gulf of Mexico, where they claimed an Asteroid crashed, who knows.

              They are Lying About Everything, That’s the Only Thing You Can Be Sure Of :lol:

            • The Clucker


              If the moon were to be a ‘luminary’ then the Earth’s shadow would not darken it during a lunar eclipse, so that starement is a failure.

            • Anonymous

              “If the moon were to be a ‘luminary’ then the Earth’s shadow would not darken it during a lunar eclipse, so that starement is a failure.”

              An eclipse is just special effects. The moon is really just a stage light they move around on rails. The voices coming from the eyeball on the back of a dollar bill told me the earth is flat and shaped like a big Dorito. The Egyptians were trying to tell us this by the pyramids, because, at the time, they didn’t know how to say it in English. Or Spanish.

              You’re either a shill for the government or Elvis, who anybody who knows anything is aware controls the world, from a double-wide trailer, on the outskirts of Las Vegas.

              I hope you read this quickly, before the Illuminati delete it. Those 18th century Bavarian frats will get you, every time!

            • santiago

              truthlovingsoul,you probably haven’t noticed that you’re in the same basket with tin foil hatters.Don’t travel too far,you might fall off the earth’s edge…on the other thought,nooo,you never leave your basement.

            • The Clucker


              You said:

              “The voices coming from the eyeball on the back of a dollar bill told me the earth is flat and shaped like a big Dorito. The Egyptians were trying to tell us this by the pyramids, because, at the time, they didn’t know how to say it in English. Or Spanish.”

              You fekkin’ nailed it, brother. I’ve been trying to convince people of Triangular Earth Theory for a while now but nobody is biting. The only logical conclusion is that Earth is shaped like a big slice of pizza. Gus Fung dropped us a huge hint with his avatar picture but you and I must have been the only ones that caught it.

              God Bless the Triangular Earth!

            • Anonymous

              “You fekkin’ nailed it, brother. I’ve been trying to convince people of Triangular Earth Theory for a while now but nobody is biting. The only logical conclusion is that Earth is shaped like a big slice of pizza.”

              I know it, brother, I mean I know’d it, don’t you know? And it’s obvious this is why there are anchovies in the sea, but people are afraid of Elvis and the Jesuits, as well as other Jews who cause belly button lint and remotely control all the vending machines on the planet, and people are simply too chicken to publicly admit it, Clucker. (You ought to know…)

              I take it back you’re a shill. Keep listening to the voices. The eyeball never lies!

            • The Clucker

              The voices never stop. That’s why I made a lead helmet to block out their frequencies.

            • Anonymous

              “The voices never stop. That’s why I made a lead helmet to block out their frequencies.”

              It does get hard to sleep, even when you put your wallet in the drawer. But five layers of heavy duty Reynolds foil also works. When I’m ready for sleep, I always check first for Zionists in closets and under the bed, of course, but, after that, just put on my five layer hat, with the shiny-side-out, extensible earmuffs, no problem!

              Well, hate to have to run, but I have to go get more toilet paper and canned tuna, haven’t quite filled the garage, yet.

            • Daughter of the Church

              :idea: funny how after the ball earth hoax….., that China comes out with….. to further perpetuate the MYTH… :idea:

              I address to you my congratulation, because you ARE the little child who has said:”the emperor has no clothe”. Your viral 200 proofs video was undeniably the trigger to the reaction from the hoax-makers. You deserve the credit. China is simply the one of the international liars which has been designated for the damage control onto which America will become the sacrificial lamb.

              I know that you are against organised religions, and that you seem to express caution of having “controlled opposition religious individuals” joining your blog, but still, admit that Cardinal St Bernardine, SJ (Jesuit), a learned man, and knowing well Galileo, was the first to counter the false theologies based on heliocentrism.

              That say dear truthlovingsoul, please continue your good work. You have a predecessor of your caliber, who is working at putting an end to the current British Monarchy hoax. This man, Greg Hallett, has caused similar “reactions” as you just did, that from the house of Elizabeth Mountbatten (aka Queen Elizabeth II).

              To return to this “mother of all lies” as you call the ball-earth, versus the flat-earth . It all began five centuries ago, and perhaps it was because a Jesuit Cardinal Secretary of State failed to stop Galileo. To day, we have an other Jesuit as an anti-Pope (“Francis” is a hoax) who is tragically going along with the lies -and worst. A genuine Pope would have never allowed the fake space programs as early as in the 60′s. May God send a person of your caliber to put an end to all those spin-offs. The earth is to remain flat and still.

            • Daughter of the Church

              Correction on the comment above:

              It is St. Robert Bellarmine, and not St Bernardine (of Siena) who failed to stop the wild modernism.

            • NWO for Dummies.

              the moon is flat have you ever tried landing on a round object just cant do it – it would roll away – either that or it is merely a light projection held in place by a giant projector located in llhasa in tibet. as claimed by secret documents. it was believed hitler found the projector and was about to go public which was why the jews declared war on germany – according to scorcher faal. the suns flat too….but thats a given – otherwise it would have rolled away a long time a go or at least fallen out of the sky….. you guys! :roll:

            • Louis

              DOC says Francis is an anti-pope. Sorry DOC, but you’re full of baloney.

            • Crow (hex)

              Paralambano- you reminded me of that Hawkwind cover with the spaceship beaming up a giant Dorito which is in a circle in a mountain. Forget the name of the album.

              As for you tls you deserve this!

            • srsly1

              If the moon isn’t real, please explain the tides

          • Daughter of the Church

            Yes nobody went to the Moon, as well as no “rover” is on Mars, nor elsewhere.

            The moon landing was a lie, and the Chinese rover is a lie-and-a-half. Besides a contest between a liar and a liar-and-a-half this is truly a collusion of all the G20 nations to perpetuate a gigantic lie.
            One has to wonder the why of this lie. It can’t be for just making a fast buck. May be it is to reinforce the Copernic utopia….
            The G20 are all into this lie as deep as their are all compromised into the ISS hoax.

            Now this is real bad news for the average american man. This means that the USA is now a cut-out, and soon to be ready for the slaughter.

            • Crow (hex)

              You don’t exist either! You’re just an AI computer whose been programmed with Roman Catholic dogma! You’ll short – circuit eventually.

        • Anonymous


          So now I am suspicious of these claims that the US did not go to the moon. Since the khazars of Israel want us to believe that, then there has to be a reason that benefits them, so that means we need to go down that rabbit hole and find out how it benefits them.

      • 4Truth

        Put all your chips on Jesus! HE is the sure Bet! Smile!

    • truthseeker4809

      It just confirmed that Stanly Kubrick’s moon landing hoax video production confession was genuine. Nothing much to say. You have all been duped.

      I liked Kubrick’s movie “Eyes Wide Shut” to tell you the truth. It was really a master piece.

      • HereAmI

        Or even “The Shining”…

        • G.M.

          2001 Space Odyssey, that Wheel UFO exists, there was 1 photo someone took of it on the internet and they deleted it, also a Photo from 1977 of both the Twin Towers Smoking, they deleted that also, can’t find either one anymore.

          “The Shining” is based on a true story, all these things are real and they don’t want you to know.

          I think we live in Dark Matter on Earth and the more Death and Destruction Worldwide the More Dark Matter, they are All into Black Magic and Satanism Worldwide, its going to get very, very Bad and You are going to see things you never thought Possible or Existed, don’t be Afraid.

          Just keep You’re Faith in God Within You’re Heart, Nothing Can Enter You.

          • Anonymous

            And what about Ben Hur?

            • DK

              Ben Hur had a totally authentic 2000 year old Austin Mini chariot, believe me it must be true since they filmed it . :lol:

            • Anonymous

              “Ben Hur had a totally authentic 2000 year old Austin Mini chariot, believe me it must be true since they filmed it .”

              That’s a fact, with a Tesla deathbed designed engine and cigarette lighter. The Wizard of Oz was also a true story, in which the Illuminati embedded a message concerning the future housing crunch. Just ask the Wicked Witch of the West, proof they try to throw water on.

            • CrowPie

              The Wizard of Oz was written from actual events in the authors life.

              The yellow brick road was real too. He was sent to a boys school “up North” and the paving…..was of yellow bricks.

              Later in his life he moved his own family to the flat states….where he witnessed his first tornado…..and a house moving through the winds.

      • xvision2012

        Are you talking about the faked video where ‘Tom’ was playing Kubrick? He acted so badly ‘Tim’ had to feed him all the lines. :lol:

      • Doccus

        Well I’d be more likely to believe that Kubrick’s confession was genuine if that was even Stanley Kubrick at all in the video. Doidn’t help that I sae the rehearsal video where the ACTOR was being directed on what to say!
        That “Chinese confirm no moon landing” shtick is itself a hoax.. and has been around for at least a year already!
        PWNED y’all!

    • Uriel#73

      A plan within a plan. No way they would have told Kubrick the truth about why he was doing it in the first place. Whatever he was told would not have been the truth. Things like that are always compartmentalized. My guess, they went but both us and the Russians had discovered stuff up there that they didn’t want anyone to see. They did studio filming so nothing they filmed up there would accidentally have stuff in it if it got missed by someone assigned to make certain things disappear. I remember a couple years ago when the Chinese and India both said they had found at least one landing sight. Chinese and Russia becoming more powerful? China knows now what is up there and is blackmailing the U.S. Give us some of that tech or we can at least cause you one heck of a headache. Russias just playing dumb. “Oh, yeah, we don’t know a thing. (wink,wink) We better ask them about it.”

      • True News

        Disclosure is imminent.

      • HereAmI

        Occam’s Razor indicates that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
        So rather than invoke additional nonsense such as “aliens up there”, probably better to say that no-one went because they couldn’t, and no-one went because it was more lucrative to not even try.
        The US, and all these other so-called “nations”, are corporations, and the sole raison d’etre of a corporation is to make profits for the jews who own them, not to boldly go anywhere, except to the bank.

        • xenoverse

          So nobody is even going to mention that the article is satire for entertainment purposes only? Everyone’s just jumping on board believing the U.S. never went to the moon? Really? I’m sorry but you are all idiots.

          • Anonymous

            I resemble that remark! That does it. No Reynolds foil coupon codes for you!

      • HereAmI

        Not sure whether it’s genuine or not, as I don’t know much about Stan, but the video interview with him released recently reveals that he knew all about why he was being asked to make the videos of the “moon landings”, and in retrospect he felt that he had done the wrong thing by going along with the deception.
        But a man is judged for what he did, rather than for what he wishes he had done.

        “And as it is given unto men once to die, but after this, the Judgement”.
        Sobering words for all of us.

      • eagererin

        NASA JUST ADMITTED THEY CAN’T PENETRATE THE VAN ALLEN RADIATION BELTS, MUCH LESS THE FIRMAMENT 65,000 MILES UP. No one went anywhere, except on film, that’s now “lost” due to bad editing and unrealistic shadows, bubbles, wires showing, etc. What remains is so easily proven faked, it’s pathetic.. A huge ruse.

    • medtes


    • Factory Farms FEAR the MooCow

      Are you siding with the State Run Chinese Media?
      Lets ask Chris Chappel on China Uncensored Youtube Channel. He’s the go to for anything China in this modern era. He’s more neutral along with Corbett Report guy….. until big pharma or boogieman does something to them.
      Eat More GMO :mad:

    • santiago

      ” Beijing – Top officials of the Chinese Space Program have expressed their feelings that the American moon landings “were a complete hoax” reports the Beijing Daily Express.”
      Links to the source,please,otherwise the story is completely fake.

    • Hoa Hong

      Sorry about that, Hubble photo’s of the Apollo landing sites on the moon clearly show the remains of the landers, tracks of the rovers, and even the flag left behind. That means the reason the Chinese “news” story was not reported, is because it is clearly false in all respects.

      • Anonymous

        Nice try but we also supposedly left the Rover there. Hubble hasn’t shown a darn thing except a CGI fantasy.

        • meanoldlion

          yup, they said they can’t point Hubble at the moon cos the bright moon light will damage the optics and photo sensors

      • truthlovingsoul

        hoa hong,

        nasa has lied about everything all along.

        you may as well say that the banksters said they were NOT ripping us off! well, if the banksters said it, it must be so.

        i now see nasa as an organization designed to prove the existence of santa claus, tooth fairy and honest politicians. all myths. feel free to keep forking money over to them though. they count on it.

      • DK

        Hubble is in fact a very small telescope far outclassed by the VLT in Chile a network of active optically corrected 8.2 meter telescopes which are capable of examining Buzz Aldrins footprints.

        Hubble is deep sky, the moon is a very bad target for what is a low resolution instrument orbiting very quickly.

        That the VLT has never been used even once to map a lunar landing site when even one of its telescopes gets this shot of Jupiter in 1998 with a test camera( speaks volumes.

    • til

      NASA are still putting up badly photo shopped pictures of Mars. So nothing surprises me. look at all those cloned rocks at the top of the picture. tut tut

    • synchrOMicity

      So if this is true then the secret space program is all bull too! And the discloser project Nasa hidden air brushed photos of structures on the back side too ?? And Corey Goode ???

      • truthlovingsoul

        yes. all fake.

    • Anonymous

      At times like this after reading these comments, I wish that I had not gone on to earn a graduate degree. That’s where you learn critical thinking, basically. Ignorance is bliss.

      The Earth is round. The sun is actually a star. The moon is actually a moon and we have been there. Space is big. I learned these things at the University of Utah, along with a bunch of other stuff.

      Now, you guys can vote this down, it’s OK. But, that won’t change physics. It’s just the way it is, like climate change.

      God Bless All Critical Thinkers Wherever They Are.

      • Galahad

        I am with you mitch… This site is fun for people’s nativity a little knowledge is dangerous sometimes.

      • truthseeker4809

        Not so fast.. Academia is crowded with crooks this days. There is no critical free thinking academics anymore. They are all bought out. The reason is because if they claim anything out of line of the ptb, either they will be killed or their tenure will be gong out to trash. Those guys are no different than paid off shills in the BIN.

        • Anonymous

          *sigh* Thanks for this comment. However, none of the professors I knew fit this paradigm, and I knew a lot of them personally. None had their tenure “gong out to trash”, whatever that means. It just depends on where you glean your knowledge, I guess.

          • The Clucker

            Right. When I went to technical school and I had a teacher that would outwardly criticize TPTB.

            Some folks think they can put a neat little bow on everything but that’s not the case.

            • SuperMario

              Some folks think they can put a neat little bow on everything but that’s not the case.

              Sums everything up perfectly.

        • Galahad


          You have bought in to the ‘Boogeyman’ scenario,I am an Academic and most of my Peers are decent critical thinking people,remember the saying ‘the devil is in the detail’ and usually with BIN it’s lacking

          • Galahad

            As for the moon landings

            Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR)

            LLR measures the round-trip travel times of light pulses between stations on the earth and four retroreflectors left on the surface of the Moon by the Apollo missions

            • BEEF SUPREME

              If I may play Devil’s Advocate, Monsieur Academic:

              Merely by lifting up our heads we can see that the surface of the Moon is reflective of light. What needs we any laser-reflectors (so-called) to be left there as artifacts we may then use to reflect light?

              You know what I would like to see? ANY photographic documentation captured by ANY amateur astronomer that gives us plain evidence of ANY of the of the artifacts supposedly left behind by ANY Moon-landing mission.

              That is all I ask. (Subsequent conclusions only to be rendered pending excruciating forensic examination of submitted photographic documentation, and like examination of similar evidence submitted by a second, separate, astronomer.) Does anything about that strike you as unfair or unreasonable?

            • DK

              As Beef Suprime states, the lunar surface is already 90 – 99% reflective, what would have proven beyond doubt that their were landings is a large number of frequency shifting reflectors salted over the 16klm radius beam scatter which is the area illuminated by a laser fired from the Earth. The probability anything reflective can be seen from the surface during illumination from a Laser source is therefore nil unless the reflected energy is red or blue shifted to prove something man made is there.

              If done correctly, they would have set up strobe beacons on the surface to be seen in Lunar Night for a period of time instead.

            • Kiwi

              Hi Beef Supreme/Galahad

              In 2008, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings.


              The Soviet Union monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, which was “fully equipped with the latest intelligence-gathering and surveillance equipment.” They had no doubt about the landings

              Jodrell Bank in the UK tracked all Soviet and NASA missions..

            • Kiwi

              The incontrovertible proof that we did go to the moon are the 382 kilograms of moon rocks that have been examined by thousands of independent geologists around the world.

              These rocks have been compared to a few dozen moon rocks that were blasted by impacts off the moon and that have landed in Antarctica, and to some moon rocks that were recovered by robot Soviet explorers. These rocks all match.

              They are very low in water, and riddled with strange tiny holes from millions of years of exposure to cosmic rays on the airless surface of the moon. The moon rocks are very different from earth rocks, and could not be faked by any current technology.

              To make fake moon rocks, we could have to squash them at about a thousand atmospheres, keep them at about 1100°C for a few years, and then cool them slowly for a few more years while keeping them under pressure all that time.

              And then, the NASA scientists back in 1969 would have to have worked out what new dating methods would be invented over the next 30 years, and add those elements in the exact proportions

              The words of the 1937 Nobel Prize winner in medicine, Albert Szent-Gyorgyi: “The Apollo flights demand that the word ‘impossible’ be struck from the scientific dictionary. They are the greatest encouragement for the human spirit.”

            • Kiwi


              One last thought on reflected light.The moon is a bad mirror,reflecting only 12% of the light that hits it. That’s nothing. Saturn’s moon Enceladus, on the other hand, reflects about 99% of the light that falls on it. If astronauts ever get the chance to walk on the surface of Enceladus, it’ll feel like freshly fallen snow.

              Lunar Laser Ranging is best way to measure

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “The NASA astronauts took before and after shots of the landing zone where a lightening of the surface is evident.”


              Mmmm hmmm. And why is the before image pristine and crystal clear, whereas the after image is hazy and distorted? To say nothing of the fact that, even when I look past this objected to anomaly, I see little if any difference in the images. Compelling? Hardly.

              Here is what I meant when I say ‘artifacts’; and this sort of evidence, if confirmed reliable, would go a long way toward swaying my opinion of the matter:

              1. Photographic images of tire tracks; the clearer the better

              2. Photographic images of actual mechanical remnants left by the ‘Moon landing’ astronauts; i.e., the rover or rovers, the base component of the Lunar Landing Module left behind after the LLM supposedly shot back into space for rendezvous with the orbiter

              3. The infamous flag

              4. Imagery of the supposed laser ‘reflectors’ placed by NASA – not images of a reflection

              5. Any other man-made detritus jettisoned on the surface of the Moon by the ‘Moon landing’ astronauts

              Again, I’m not going to be swayed either way by imagery which may or may not show that some Moon dust got moved around a little bit. I’m interested in definitive and solid confirming witness that anything NASA told us about that excursion has any basis in reality whatsoever.

              Kiwi wrote:

              “The incontrovertible proof that we did go to the moon are the 382 kilograms of moon rocks that have been examined by thousands of independent geologists around the world.”

              Sorry fella, but there’s nothing ‘incontrovertible’ about that ‘proof.’ All it amounts to is evidence in the NASA column. I do not say NASA has nothing with which to bolster their arguments. But does what they have withstand excruciating examination?

              “These rocks have been compared to a few dozen moon rocks that were blasted by impacts off the moon and that have landed in Antarctica…”

              Thus you yourself now admit that evidence of that nature can be collected right here on Earth? So why are other examples of this evidence supposed to represent ‘incontrovertible proof’ of anything?

              “And then, the NASA scientists back in 1969 would have to have worked out what new dating methods would be invented over the next 30 years, and add those elements in the exact proportions…”

              Nothing doing.

              Real evidence of the kind I ask for is not only very possible to produce, if in fact NASA is not full of it; but that is the only type of evidence which would effectively destroy any argument that NASA made the whole thing up.

              Once again, I have asked and have not received. Many folks talk about having seen such evidence. You are the first to actually provide a link. But the material to which you linked does not even come close to what I ask for.

            • DK



              Jodrel bank only ever picked up audio FM.

              The moon is covered in Titanium Dioxide, which outside the Maria has this refractivity ( compared to Glass its exact opposite ( what you measured was total lunar Albedo which is innaccurate, since the radiation is immediately shifted and re radiated at a non visible wavelength. On the Earth the Albedo effect is caused by water vapor and Ice which reflects nearly 100% of the visible light back into space without shifting the frequency.

              The Moon landing site was covered in titanium dust glass with a high refractivity. The Lunar Maria or seas are black and absorb nearly all the radiation which falls upon them. The statement on the reflectivity of the moon is correct, it is just that the light is shifted away from the visible frequencies of light into the infra red because of meters of titanium dioxide glass dust leading to a surface temperature over 200 degrees C over a 24 hour period from a Solar Radiation from light is nearly 6 KW per hour per meter square – same as the Earth.

            • Neon


              Ask Professor Brian Cox if the moon landing where real?

              Or maybe try Dr Karl Kruszelnicki,these guys know what they are talking about and I wouldnt doubt there integrity.

              I did the research a few years ago and the vast majority of evidence supports it and if NASA didn’t land on the moon the Russian would have been all over it

            • Kiwi

              Hi Beef Supreme

              I think the evidence you require maybe some years off yet when we revisit the Moon and hopefully NASA will revisit the old landing sites.

              It makes for good debate the Moon stuff


            • BEEF SUPREME


              If NASA goes to the Moon in the future, and then shows us photographic evidence of material they supposedly left behind at the time of the Apollo missions, do you actually think I would find that evidence satisfactory?

              If NASA goes to the Moon in the future, then the nature of my request will expire the very instant they touch down.

              Why isn’t this crystal clear to you?

            • LifeIs

              The reflectors are small devices. Which arrived on the Moon via unmanned probes.

              Since the Soviets were able to bring back samples of the surface during the Apollo era, using unmanned Luna vehicles, it’s likely we did the same.

              But we also decided in 1963 that some meteorites were of lunar origin.

            • LifeIs

              Kingsport News from Saturday, Sept. 5, 1970 included a UPI article, “Russians Returning U.S. Moonship”

              The Soviet Union returned an Apollo capsule they found in the ocean, in 1970. It’s a museum piece, now.

              The Soviets were bought off, with a grain purchase financed by the US government. And with a pledge of American secrecy concerning Russia’s frauds, starting with the Gagarin flight.

              People TRACKED the unmanned probes, to the Moon. They relayed radio transmissions. They landed instruments on the Moon. They probably brought back samples, as the Soviets did with their unmanned probes.

              NO one can fly humans through the radiation belts. That’s why nobody has done it since Apollo. It’s why Apollo didn’t do it.

            • LifeIs

              Kiwi the Selene Kaguya photographed an Apollo landing site with 10 meter per pixel resolution.

              That’s 33 feet per dot in the picture. You can’t see Apollo sized that way.

              The most interesting picture is here in thumbnail size, a comparison of a picture from the orbiting Selene/Kaguya craft, side by side with a picture taken from the ground, with the Apollo 15 Rover in it.

              The terrain looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Meaning, the Apollo pic was ALSO taken from orbit. And the rover was pasted in.

              That, or the Rover is really, really big. Ha ha ha ha.


              We don’t know HOW much meteoritic lunar material NASA had to work with. But the idea of “independent” study of it is naive.

              And again, in Apollo pics, all of them, the Moon’s surface is too bright in comparison with white space suits.

      • LifeIs

        Mitch51 and Galahad, ask for your money back.

        ‘”The moon is a source of radiation,” said Boston University researcher Harlan Spence, the lead scientist for LRO’s cosmic ray telescope. “This was a bit unexpected.”‘

        ‘Overall, future lunar travelers face a radiation dose 30 percent to 40 percent higher than originally expected, Spence said.’

        That’s from 2009.

        Here’s something from 2013:

        ‘”Until the 1990s, we thought that the Van Allen belts were pretty well-behaved and changed slowly…With more and more measurements, however, we realized how quickly and unpredictably the radiation belts changed. They are basically never in equilibrium, but in a constant state of change.”‘

        “…that there was a rapid energy increase of high-energy electrons in the radiation belts during the past October…’In this particular case, all of the acceleration took place in about 12 hours,”‘

        SOoooo….we didn’t know until 2009 what radiation levels were on the moon –radiation from cosmic rays splitting atoms of the moon’s surface.

        NASA had no way of knowing the intensity of GAMMA radiation from the moon’s surface, from the splitting of the atoms. Neutrons and gamma rays would have ruined photographic film.

        And we didn’t know how fast the radiation belts change, or how intense they got to be, until 2013.

        NASA had no way of knowing what the intensity would be on launch days, or on return days.

        And those electrons, accelerated to near the speed of light? When they hit metal, they make X rays.

        And Mitch dude, you should have known from the photos you’ve seen, the moon is too bright in the photos, compared to a white space suit. Way too bright.

    • Syco

      Earth is a spheroid and we have been to the moon, any twit with a walmart telescope can see the reflectors. Y’all are so wrapped in tin foil you should buy stock in reynolds.

    • Boo

      World News Daily is not a reliable source site. It has a history of fabricating truth. If you are looking at their articles you may want to take an extra minute and see if you can source their jargon from a couple of credible publications to confirm their subject matter’s merit. But if your into fiction…just saying.

      • Anonymous

        Are you saying that BIN IS a reliable site? Wow.

    • Sun Rabbit

      I’m sure that no human ever went to the moon. Even if they had done so, the cost-to-benefit ratio would be pretty dismal. Nobody has the right to play astronaut on the taxpayer’s dime. Laws should be passed and/or amended to reflect the fact that direct democracy has become feasible due to the internet, and therefore ALL such major expenditures should be the subject of a popular referendum.
      Am I the only nose-to-the-grindstone, feet-on-the-ground person out there who feels that the space “program” (more like “pogrom”), CERN, and most of this “research” is a total and complete waste of money? Don’t we have an economic crisis going on right now? And come to think of it when has there NOT been an economic crisis, where everybody was happy? How about the other problems we have on earth right now? If “they” want megalomaniacal projects, why not something that benefits everyone? Like a worldwide hypersonic transport network. Or a system of irrigating the Sahara desert. If they want to fund actual research, how about finding the most scientific method of government that does not devolve into politics, arguably the worst form of government there is. So far, the US government has funded research that benefits only a few people, the ones with the contracts. Like, they spent 300 thousand USD to research cocaine-addicted prostitutes in Brazil. Are you feeling the tangible effects of that research already? Oh sure, the space “program” gave us all Velcro, a substance that has made all our lives 0.0001% better. And don’t forget pens that can write upside down.
      Governments the world over are experts in wasting other people’s money. In the US, the amount that was used to bail out the banks could have paid off EVERY SINGLE outstanding mortgage in the country AND bought every person a home of their own. Instead, they waste it on mega knick-nacks like the Large Hadron Collider looking for “dark matter.” Well I got news for you, that “dark matter” is what these people have in their heads, and it’s also the same thing I flush down my toilet.
      I pretty much don’t give a “dark matter” whether they went to the moon or not. The only thing that matters is the cost.

      • Crow (hex)

        It was a space race to see who had the biggests d##ks. What I don’t understand is that the last manned mission was 43 years ago when the computer memory was in the kilobytes, yet they haven’t been back since then. Think how much technology has progressed since then! Why haven’t they been back in this intervening
        period. Btw thanx to Kiwi and Beef Supreme for introducing some intellect into this debate.

        • Sun Rabbit

          I totally agree with you. I mean, we got pocket calculators with more computing power than the supercomputers of 43 years ago. Just think about that for a second. They managed to compute all that telemetry data and course corrections to navigate what was basically a guided missile 250,000 miles out. And they also managed to stay in touch with the Eagle even when Houston was turned away from the moon. That’s impossible.
          Beef Supreme also mentions the flag. Back when I was in high school 30+ years ago I distinctly remember watching a movie in physics class where they showed the flag waving, and the explanation was that it was waving in the solar wind. Now, even at the age of 17, I knew that the solar wind consists of photons and electrons, so how the hell do you get a flag to wave with that? You got electrons coming off your monitor right now! So if you put a miniature flag in front of your monitor, is it gonna start waving? NO!
          As a kid I visited the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum and back then you could go inside the Eagle. I’m telling you, not only was that thing about 1/3 the size of my guest bathroom, but I didn’t see any storage areas for food or waste. I can’t understand how they could put 3 grown men inside that thing for two weeks without all of them going completely bonkers. Besides, that thing was made of fiberglass on the outside, and they wanna tell me that they not only went to the moon but also plopped down in the Pacific Ocean in a glorified Cracker Jack box? I couldn’t believe that we actually sent 3 of our guys up there in that thing. Also, and I didn’t notice this when I was there (that was like 40 years ago) but someone here on BIN pointed out that the dimensions of the entrance are too small to allow an astronaut in his spacesuit to enter it. And about those astronauts: all 12 of the men who walked on the moon were Freemasons, and if there’s one thing the Masons are experts at, it’s keeping secrets.
          And another thing someone pointed out in a comment on a different article: how come they never aimed the Hubble Space Telescope at any of the moon landing sites? If that thing can read a newspaper from 22 thousand miles then it sure as hell can see the moon landing sites because they used that car to travel up to 20 miles from the lander. The tracks would definitely be visible. Which leads me to another question: where did they store that car when they travelled to the moon? It was even bigger than the lander itself. Another really weird thing is that when the footage is speeded up by exactly 100% it looks exactly like they’re on earth. The walking, the dust picked up by the car, everything. Why would all their motions have to be slowed down just because they’re in 1/6th the earth’s gravity? All that would mean would be they could jump farther, but it wouldn’t slow down their arm motions.
          I think the whole thing was filmed out in the Nevada desert. So yeah, the Eagle has landed- in Nevada.

          • Crow (hex)

            Yeah that buggy, how did they fit that in the lander! Maybe someone on here can explain how they got that moon buggy in the lander.

            • Sun Rabbit

              I know, it doesn’t make sense. When you stop the footage and just look at the 2 guys in the car, and compare their proportions to it, you can see that this thing was the size of a normal sedan, albeit a bare-bones version. NASA says it was folded up, but if so, where was it stored? Also, you can’t fold the entire car up because the trusses that give it dimensional stability would have to be in one piece, namely 2x 12 foot trusses and 2x 6 foot ones. Where did they store this when the lander was only 10 feet wide?
              And another thing: they’re driving around with a parabolic satellite dish presumably aimed at Houston. Now, how do you keep a parabolic dish aimed at Houston while you’re driving around? Zig-zagging and going up and down. I have a satellite dish on my house, and I can tell you that orienting it to a particular satellite is NOT like you just point it in a general direction, but it has to be oriented within literally millimeters so that it hits the satellite 22,000 miles up. I actually had to pay an electronics guy 80 Euros to come and align it at my house, and keep in mind that houses do not tend to move around a lot. So if it’s so sensitive to even a millimeter of orientation at 22,000 miles, how did they maintain contact with Houston which was 250,000 miles out, when that dish was moving around all the time? And like I pointed out, Houston was on the other side of the earth for three 12-hour periods during their stay on the moon, making any radio communication with Houston physically impossible. It’s like when you’re listening to the radio in your car and you drive into a tunnel, and lose the signal for a while.
              No, the official fairy tale does not make sense.

            • Crow (hex)

              Cheers for all the info, speak to you again soon on another thread.

      • Bob DD

        Add one more: Only Taxpayers should be able to vote on expenditure bills, including Welfare programs. Those without any skinny in the game should be eligible to vote. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The big boyz want all the control. We the People mean zip, zilch, nothing.

    • Don - 1

      NASA released shopped photos of a rover on the Moon. The problem is that if you count pixels and measure the rover it appears to be about 12 feet wide and 20 feet long. Hmmm….somethings not right with their ”moon” photos.

      Their photos also show ”footprints” on the moon. A close examination of those ”footprints” reveal the astronaut’s boot is about 5 feet in length. Hmmm……

      NASA – Never.. a.. straight.. answer….NASA.

      • Sun Rabbit

        I heard about the footprints being 5 feet long, and all the other size anomalies.
        Look, just the fact that the only surviving footage is what was filmed off a TV screen in Australia, of the most momentous achievement of humanity EVER is very suspicious.
        Besides, how did they coordinate all the telemetry data and course corrections for what was basically a guided missile going out 250,000 miles over the course of 3 days, when Houston was on the other side of the earth for 3 12-hour periods during that time. Impossible!
        And they did this all with a “supercomputer” that 43 years ago had the computing capability of a Commodore Vic-20 or a TRS-80 (remember those?) :lol:

    • Paul

      How can you ever take BeforeItsnews seriously? You do realize they are linking to a site that clearly states

      “All news articles contained within are fiction, and presumably fake news”

      All theses conspiracy types act as if they are after the truth, and are all about “facts” when in truth they just speed read and watch bs and don’t take the time to even look into it

      • Sun Rabbit

        I agree. Most of the articles on this site ARE National Enquirer material (“Elvis Alive and Living on the Moon, Made Friends with Bat-People”) but every once in a while you get some real gems that really do live up to the name of being Before It’s News. Like the whole former pope pedophilia scandal, or the current pope’s Marxism and love of Islam, or some really good in-depth analyses of the Sandy Hook shooting. Those were all published first right here.
        It’s like a Gold mine, where they gotta mine like a ton of rocks just to get 0.5 grams of Gold. Same thing here.
        Then you got people like me, a former high-level banking insider. If I was just looking out for number one, I wouldn’t be posting all this information for anyone to access for free. No, I would have done the typically American thing and written a book about it, then tried to sell it here, like SOME people do (and you know who they are).
        No man, I had a major stroke in 2011, and in a sense I’m almost grateful that I did, because it brought about a major change of heart on my part, and also, I’ve seen the big picture, and how it’s all about screwing over as many people as efficiently as possible. In a sense, the information I provide bit by bit as I remember it is my way of atoning for all I’ve done, as well as proving that not all bankers are evil, because I’m certainly not. And I know quite a few who are just like me, but didn’t have the convenient excuse of a stroke to get out of that business.
        I think that my morality, which I convey abundantly is secular humanist but I accept some Christian values, but not all of them. A typical example would be “love your enemies.” Uhh, excuse me? What I say is love your family, love your friends, and love your business partners. But enemies? Scorn them, I say.

    • NWO for Dummies.

      well did they actually go to the same exact places as the americans. if not what else do you expect….you can even go to places on earth with no sign of human visitation. this is the minimum explanation which should be satisfied by the above before we can even bother with the videos – sgt report i just de recommended you.

      • NWO for Dummies.

        mr/mrs downvoter – sad intellectually and emotionally inept person :lol: :razz: :razz: :razz: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: a cliff

      • Sun Rabbit

        See, I just gave you a thumbs up. But what you’re saying is not an argument for anything. It’s like you either believe the Americans or you believe the COMMUNIST Chinese STATE-Run media. You can’t really believe either, but only use their own material as evidence against them. I’d say that if this ever became a court case, I think the evidence is overwhelmingly on the side of a fake/hoax. The issue I have with it is why did it have to cost so much money? They already had street cred with the Russians because they detonated the first nuclear bomb.
        So yeah, the Eagle has landed. In Nevada.

    • NWO for Dummies.

      you nailed it

    • tonyw

      this was the first BIG LIE that the americans got away with.. 911 is another (so far) I expect all will be known soon

      • Sun Rabbit

        I think it already IS known to anyone who delves into this material and wants to find the truth. Couple years ago the Village Voice did a poll where most New Yorkers did NOT believe the official fairy tale, and that it was an inside job. I’m obsessed with 911 because I seen it with my own eyes, and I watched the moon landings on TV as a kid. It’s hard to say how I felt about that nearly 50 years ago, but like all kids that age, I was impressionable. The example I cite is when our roof caved in. I was 6, and I just took it in stride and assumed this was something that happened regularly like Christmas, or going to the bathroom. So when they stopped all the moon shots in 72 was it? I was surprised because I thought it represented some sort of progress. I was mad at Nixon for stopping it and regarded him with contempt. Only later when I actually met him did I find out what the real deal was. I still have his autograph somewhere.
        He probably knew the inside story and stopped the space program because he realised it entailed trillions of Dollars being spent on Hollywood sci-fi fakery.
        Whether or not we went to the moon becomes irrelevant because when you look at it from a purely cost-to-benefit approach you understand that whether real or fake, the space program gave us NOTHING. Except Velcro and pens that can write upside down. Big deal.
        Bad enough we got a Velcro Magnon in the White House.

    • Arte Vespule

      I don’t know. Man, I want to believe we did go to the moon. But Rogan does have a very good point. Simply put. If we went then, why can’t we go again until 2020? Seriously, they still have some of the capsules in the Smithsonian. We could put a smartphone or an Ipad in it and it would have way more computer power then 1969….

      • Kiwi

        We did go to the moon you can look at my previous replies

        NASA is developing new rockets, called Ares I and Ares V, for the return trip to the moon. These will be larger and taller than their Apollo-era Saturn counterparts, and will be able to carry significantly more weight.The intention is to stay longer on the moon hence the delay in going back while the new rockets are developed.

        The computer question always come up about Apollo missions and the answer was simple all the calculations where done back at mission control and then fed back to the Apollo craft.

        • LifeIs

          Kiwi not true. The LEM had its own computer for the landing. As you would expect, given the time lag for radio back and forth.

          But don’t let reality interfere with your space fantasy.

      • Sun Rabbit

        You could use a Commodore Vic-20 or a TRS-80 and do it IF the official fairy tale is true. And take lots of Polaroids while you’re up there.
        But I hear ya. I myself had a hard time swallowing this because I wanted to believe we made it to the moon, but the overwhelming evidence indicates we did NOT. I like Joe Rogan because he’s a nose-to-the-grindstone, feet-on-the-ground guy like me. What really discredits the whole “we never went to the moon” crowd is the people who claim THAT, plus the fact that we have secret military bases on Mars. I mean, the two do not go together. And that once one straw-man argument gets discredited, it’s assumed the other one will wither away? I just wanna know the truth!
        The fact that you have someone like McKinnon claiming that the US has secret military bases in space, and that they allegedly want to jail him for what, 700,000 years or something like that all because he allegedly hacked into a couple of Pentagon computers? A retarded autistic kid hacks the Pentagon? Think about that for a second. And another thing, he’s just one guy claiming this. He has no evidence, not even printouts. Nothing. And we’re expected to believe him?

        • Crow (hex)

          Correction : aspergers not autism.

    • BlueDissident

      World News Daily Report is an American Jewish Zionist newspaper based in Tel Aviv and dedicated on covering biblical archeology news and other mysteries around the Globe.
      Our News Team is composed of award winning christian, muslim and jewish journalists, retired Mossad agents and veterans of the Israeli Armed Forces.

      We are based in Tel Aviv since 1988 where are published more then 200,000 copies of our Daily Report paper edition everyday.

      Don’t trust them………

    • David Montaigne

      If Kubrick did fake the moon landings, and all photos allegedly of the moon are from a staged set in California, we may still have been to the moon – just without reporting the things we found there – from either:
      a previous human civilization
      evidence of either would rock the world, and give evidence of technology governments want to keep secret

    • The Seer

      The site is an IQ test run by ET to see which humans to save and which ones not to save after the great war having checked my self there is only 3 people here worth saving the rest can simply just slide off the earth and into space :lol: after all its flat right :lol:

      • Kiwi

        I think if Aliens have been observing earth they would just see the whole place as toxic,never ending tribal wars… They would hit maximum warp and get the hell out of here :grin:

        • The Seer

          so true

    • Amminadab

      The Bible indicates that the earth is round. Consider Isaiah 40:22 which mentions the “circle of the earth.” This description is certainly fitting—particularly when the earth is viewed from space; the earth always appears as a circle since it is round.

      Another verse that indicates the spherical nature of our planet is Job 26:10. This verse teaches that God has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness. This boundary between light and darkness (day and night) is called the “terminator” since the light stops or “terminates” there. Someone standing on the terminator would be experiencing either a sunrise or a sunset; they are going from day to night or from night to day. The terminator is always a circle, because the earth is round.

      • Kiwi

        If the bible had said the earth orbits the sun then that would have been something

    • Real Expert

      I guess you had to be there to watch the astronauts drive their lunar rover for miles into the distance “live” as it happened. If they did it at some earth desert location, don’t you think that a bug or a bird would fly into the bright lights eventually? We got to watch the missions for hours as they happened. No bugs, no birds. Some have asked “how could they do a moon mission with 60′s technology?” The answer is “because we wanted to ” . Our generation had heroes. Our generation had a “can do ” attitude. Our generation had dreams to accomplish. We dreamed it and then we did it. This generation has no dreamers and think everything is impossible. No one is keeping this generation from going to the moon, except for this generation. Why not go there so you can see the things left on the moon? Are you chicken? Hmmm? Or are you afraid the Van Allen radiation belts will fry you? That is why you can’t go there. You are too afraid to risk it, .so just stay on the couch where you belong.

      • LifeIs

        Anonymous I was there. Watching for hours. But just because something says “live” doesn’t mean it is live. Or even outdoors.

        Scroll up, you will see unrefuted, irrefutable proof that we were victims of a government hoax.

        • Real Expert

          I have watched all of the irrefutable proof videos. I know that they are not irrefutable. All of the shadow anomalies are due to using a 28mm lens, which will throw shadows off angle. No blast from the lander, go play the game called “Lunar lander ” which simulates 1/6th gravity landings. You will see that you can’t run the engine at all near the landing site, but bounce to a landing instead. Just play it and you will see what I mean. So no blast below the lander. We went. Get over it kids. Go figure out how to contain Fukishima from radiating us all to death instead. What is the end game if it was a hoax? What is the penalty? Who you gonna penalize? Do something instead that has a positive outcome.

          • LifeIs

            I didn’t mean the videos. Sorry. I meant the comments section.

            Start with my comments and try to refute any fact contained therein.

            DK makes a good point, don’t overlook that one.

            And no, you can’t land make a vertical landing with a rocket without rocket exhaust hitting the ground. And blowing away that dust where that famous footprint is.

            Like you said, there’s little gravity holding it down. And it’s dry. And there’s no air to cushion the exhaust.

            As for the pictures, there are so many impossibilities, you could spend days discussing them.

            Learning the truth is a positive thing. I knew how bad Fukushima was in March of 2011. Because I knew those couldn’t be hydrogen explosions. (you need a perfect air-to-hydrogen ratio to make hydrogen explode) I knew about how much uranium and plutonium had blasted into the air.

            I knew the fuel in the reactor 4 spent fuel pool had burned, because the fire was announced at the time.

            And we were lied to about this, all this, until the last week or so.

            And the government knew it could get away with lying, because they have done it so much. YOU do something positive. Stop listening to proven liars, and stop imagining our “leaders” are competent.

            • Real Expert

              You are very admirable in your responses. We will have to agree to disagree on the moon landings. Like one of the astronauts said, a fake production would have cost much more than the missions. Even the family of Kubric debunked the interview. So who else could have pulled off such a monumental hoax? By the way, I don’t hold any officials in high regard. I say “fire them all “

    • Tedx

      Flat Earth theory is a litmus test to determine how effective water fluoridation and chem-trails have been in reducing cognitive abilities in subjects exposed to the neurological toxins.

    • A Commentator

      This story is 2 years old, and a lie.

      The jade rabbit lander is 1,225 miles away from Apollo landing sites.

      It’s no where near.

      Take your moronic poorly researched stories, and remove them from BIN.

      • captain_pudding

        It’s also from worldnewsdailyreport a satirical website that, by their own admission, has never posted a factual article.

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