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Your unvaccinated friend is roughly 20 times more likely to give you COVID

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Christopher Baker, The University of Melbourne and Andrew Robinson, The University of Melbourne

As lockdowns ease in New South Wales, Victoria and the ACT, and people return to work and socialising, many of us will be mixing more with others, even though a section of the community is still unvaccinated.

Many vaccinated people are concerned about the prospect of mixing with unvaccinated people. This mixing might be travelling on trains or at the supermarket initially. But also at family gatherings, or, in NSW at least, at pubs and restaurants when restrictions ease further, slated for December 1.

Some people are wondering, why would a vaccinated person care about the vaccine status of another person?

Briefly, it’s because vaccines reduce the probability of getting infected, which reduces the probability of a vaccinated person infecting someone else. And, despite vaccination providing excellent protection against severe disease, a small proportion of vaccinated people still require ICU care. Therefore some vaccinated people may have a strong preference to mix primarily with other vaccinated people.

But what exactly is the risk of catching COVID from someone who’s unvaccinated?


Read more: As Melbourne cautiously opens up today, what lies ahead?


What’s the relative risk?

Recent reports from the Victorian Department of Health find that unvaccinated people are ten times more likely to contract COVID than vaccinated people.

We also know that vaccinated people are less likely to transmit the disease even if they become infected. The Doherty modelling from August puts the reduction at around 65%, although more recent research has suggested a lower estimate for AstraZeneca. Hence for this thought experiment, we’ll take a lower value of 50%.

As the prevalence of COVID changes over time, it’s hard to estimate an absolute risk of exposure. So instead, we need to think about risks in a relative sense.

If I were spending time with an unvaccinated person, then there’s some probability they’re infected and will infect me. However, if they were vaccinated, they’re ten times less likely to be infected and half as likely to infect me, following the numbers above.

Hence we arrive at a 20-fold reduction in risk when hanging out with a vaccinated person compared to someone who’s not vaccinated.



The Conversation, CC BY-ND

The exact number depends on a range of factors, including the type of vaccine and time since vaccination. But, in Australia we can expect a large risk reduction when mixing with fully vaccinated people.

The calculation holds true whether you yourself are vaccinated or not. But being vaccinated provides a ten-fold reduction for yourself, which is on top of the risk reduction that comes from people you’re mixing with being vaccinated.

So, dining in an all-vaccinated restaurant and working in an all-vaccinated workplace presents a much lower infection risk to us as individuals, whether we are vaccinated or not. The risk reduction is around 20-fold, but as individuals, we need to consider whether that’s meaningful for our own circumstances, and for the circumstances of those we visit.

There are also added complexities, in that there are three vaccine brands available, and eligibility is still limited to those aged 12 and older. Although, we do know kids are less susceptible and less likely to show symptoms.

However, as more information emerges, we can always update our estimates and think through the implications on the risk reduction.

What about people who can’t be vaccinated?

Some people haven’t been able to get vaccinated because they’re either too young or they have a medical exemption. Other people are immunocompromised and won’t get the same level of protection from two doses as the rest of the community.

Increasing our coverage across the board will help protect those who aren’t fully protected by vaccination (whether that’s by eligibility, medical reasons or choice).

Those at higher risk also enjoy the risk reduction if they’re able to mix primarily with vaccinated people.

And other choices we make can help reduce the risk of transmission when vaccination is impossible, for example, wearing masks, washing hands carefully, and so on.

Do rapid antigen tests help?

Some people have proposed that frequent testing could be used to suppress COVID spread for those who are unwilling to be vaccinated.

Health minister Greg Hunt said Australians can buy rapid antigen tests from November 1, so they can test themselves at home or before entering certain venues.

So how much does a rapid antigen test reduce risk to others?

To answer that question we need to consider test sensitivity.

Test sensitivity is the probability a rapid test will return a positive result, if the person is infected.

It’s challenging to get an accurate estimate. But rapid antigen tests are about 80% as sensitive as a PCR test, which are the traditional COVID tests we do that get sent off to a lab. The PCR tests themselves are about 80% sensitive when it comes to identifying someone with COVID.

So, if you did a rapid antigen test at home, it’s about 64% likely to pick up that you’re positive, if you did have COVID.

Therefore, rapid antigen tests can find about two-thirds of cases. If you’re going to a gathering where everyone has tested negative on a rapid antigen test, that’s a three-fold reduction in risk.

Even though rapid tests provide a reduction in risk, they don’t replace vaccines.

When used in conjunction with high levels of vaccination, rapid tests would provide improved protection for settings where we’re particularly keen to stop disease spread, such as hospitals and aged care facilities.


Read more: Home rapid antigen testing is on its way. But we need to make sure everyone has access


Consequently, despite the high efficacy of COVID vaccines, there are still reasons a vaccinated person would prefer to mix with vaccinated people, and avoid mixing with unvaccinated people.

This is particularly true for those at higher risk of severe disease, whether due to age or disability. Their baseline risk will be higher, so a 20-fold reduction in risk is more meaningful.The Conversation

Christopher Baker, Research Fellow in Statistics for Biosecurity Risk, The University of Melbourne and Andrew Robinson, CEO of the Centre of Excellence for Biosecurity Risk Analysis, The University of Melbourne

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.



Source: http://gmopundit.blogspot.com/2021/10/your-unvaccinated-friend-is-roughly-20.html


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    • Twinflame1111

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    • Daughter of the Church

      Is this report issued from the “Creative Statistics” department of the University of Melbourne? In all case the title “Your unvaccinated friend is roughly 20 times more likely to give you COVID” is contradictory because the “vaccine” is supposed to bring “immunity from COVID” and the risk of being “20 times” more likely to catch COVID is very convincing to stay away from the “vaccine”.

      What is the reward for those two bozos of the “University of Melbourne” to have published such an enormity? Money for a deadly joke most certainly! If its just about money, then let’s keep it as a farce. Here is a suggestion for a farce: Have the “health department” declare that in order to prevent risks of bacterial infection that every adults should wear diapers! Have the medias built-up a crisis; have the officials make drastic rulings; organize “diaper police” for enforcement, et al. Then follow the money trail. The diaper market is traditionally reserved to the very young and the very old. If it becomes a global market through fear & stupidity, then the wise guys investors will make a killing at the stock market. The bozos in the likes of the “University of Melbourne” will get a tip from the investors.

    • Lisa

      WHY IS BIN POSTING SUCH BULL*&%$. IT IS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE. THE DEATH JAB IS NOT A VACCINE. IT IS A DEATH ELIXER OF SPIKED PROTEIN AND AIDS ON STEROIDS COMBINED WITH A.I. NANOBOTS TO TOTALLY TAKE OVER THE BRAINS/MINDS WHO DON’T DIE A VIOLENT DEATH. CV AND ALL ITS PILLS AND DEATH, DEADLY “BOOSTERS’ ARE BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH ARE DYING FROM THE INITIAL JAB. COVID IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COLD. BUT THE TREATMENT AND FALSE POSITIVES OF THE CV ARE A LICENSE TO PUT A MASSIVE BAG OVER YOUR HEAD, ISOLATE YOU, KEEP ANY LOVED ONES FROM SAVING AND PRIMING YOUR DEAD CORPSE TO BECOME SOYLENT GREEN.

    • Anonymous

      95% of all covid deaths are ages 50 and over.
      If you’re under the age of 50 there’s no emergency need for you to take an emergency use only vaccine. Those responsible for issuing an EUA for people under the age of 50 have committed fraud and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
      On top of this the vaccines don’t work they don’t keep you from getting and spreading the virus so they changed the definition of a vaccine so that these so called vaccines can even be called a vaccine. They haven’t even been out for a year yet and they are already talking about a fourth dose because they don’t work. The covid pandemic is riddled with fraud from the PCR test that don’t work,to the vaccines that don’t work, even the way they count the deaths. Fraud, fraud and even more fraud.

    • Justin Case

      The reason vaccinated people are afraid to mix with non vaccinated people is because they are STUPID. PERIOD. You took a vaccine that DOES NOT WORK. All it does do is weaken your immune system so WHEN you get Covid you will die. When was the last time someone asked if you were vaccinated for polio? Or measles? This is a scam, and you fell for it…

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