Ninth Circuit Just Made a Second Amendment Ruling That Will Leave You Shaking Your Head
A three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit has just ruled that the right to openly carry a firearm for the purpose of self-defense is a protected activity under the Second Amendment. The case is Young vs. Hawaii and the lawsuit challenges a Hawaii law, much like that in my own state of Maryland, that severely restricts possession of firearms:
Section 134-9 acts as a limited exception to the State of Hawaii’s “Place[s] to Keep” statutes, which generally require that gun owners keep their firearms at their “place of business, residence, or sojourn.”
A concealed carry or open carry permit is only issued once you’ve convinced the local police chief that you are engaged in an activity “[w]here the urgency or the need has been sufficiently indicated” and the applicant “is engaged in the protection of life and property.”
Here are come key points. The Heller and McDonald were absolute game changers in this decision…it is refreshing to see the Ninth Circuit has heard of them. They take pains to point out that by the logic of their Peruta vs. San Diego, that if concealed carry is not a right, then open carry must be:
In short, the text of the Amendment, as interpreted by Heller and McDonald, points toward the conclusion that “bear” implies a right to carry firearms publicly for self-defense.
They quote to Dred Scott’s use of bearing firearms as a marker of citizenship to show that this is a historical right, which is a pretty awesome troll by itself:
“[I]t would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”
And the justices do an extensive search of 19th century cases, particularly Reconstruction era cases from the South that sought to prevent blacks from owning firearms:
To summarize the history canvassed thus far: the important founding-era treatises, the probative nineteenth century case law, and the post-civil war legislative scene each reveal a single American voice. The right to bear arms must include, at the least, the right to carry a firearm openly for self-defense.
And they come to these conclusions:
Restricting open carry to those whose job entails protecting life or property necessarily restricts open carry to a small and insulated subset of law-abiding citizens.
Just as the Second Amendment does not protect a right to bear arms only in connection with a militia, it surely does not protect a right to bear arms only as a security guard.
The typical, law abiding citizen in the State of Hawaii is therefore entirely foreclosed from exercising the core Second Amendment right to bear arms for self-defense.
It follows that section 134-9 “amounts to a destruction” of a core right, and as such, it is infirm “[u]nder any of the standards of scrutiny.”
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We do not take lightly the problem of gun violence, which the State of Hawaii “has understandably sought to fight . . . with every legal tool at its disposal.” Wrenn, 864 F.3d at 667. We see nothing in our opinion that would prevent the State from regulating the right to bear arms, for the Second Amendment leaves the State “a variety of tools for combatting [the problem of gun violence], including some measures regulating handguns.” Heller, 554 U.S. at 636.
But, for better or for worse, the Second Amendment does protect a right to carry a firearm in public for self-defense.
We would thus flout the Constitution if we were to hold that, “in regulating the manner of bearing arms, the authority of [the State] has no other limit than its own discretion.” Reid, 1 Ala. at 616. While many respectable scholars and activists might find virtue in a firearms-carry regime that restricts the right to a privileged few, “the enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” Heller, 554 U.S. at 636.
NEW: U.S. appeals court rules that Second Amendment protects the right to openly carry a firearm outside the home in self-defense:https://t.co/pWDIrdymnc pic.twitter.com/pLgz0Eq2GK
— Lawrence Hurley (@lawrencehurley) July 24, 2018
1/ Divided 9th Circuit panel finds that 2nd Amendment “Second Amendment encompasses the right of a responsible law-abiding citizen to carry a firearm openly for self-defense outside of the home” https://t.co/xR5aNbjJ0D – J O’Scannlain & Ikuta in majority. J Clifton in dissent.
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
2/ Panel distinguishes Hawaii case from Peruta (San Diego): “Young’s claim therefore picks up where Peruta’s left off and presents an issue of first impression for this circuit: whether the Second Amendment encompasses a right to carry firearms openly in public for self-defense.” pic.twitter.com/0aO8LEq0tA
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
4/ Here is the crux of the panel’s majority opinion: the right to “keep” arms applies in the home, but “bear” arms suggests a separate right outside the home. pic.twitter.com/F0T8gNdSRR
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
5/ The panel also finds that the Hawaii law flunks intermediate scrutiny because “no concealed carry license has ever been granted by the County” under the “good cause” standard. pic.twitter.com/qi8oQY85o8
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
6/ The panel faults the dissent for failing to “engage” with the evidence under strict scrutiny. It is not enough merely to “cite” evidence supporting gun control laws. Courts must do more “than cite-check the government’s brief.” pic.twitter.com/dFMRe6nBao
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
7/ J. O’Scannlain mic drop: “While many respectable scholars and activists might find virtue in a firearms-carry regime that restricts the right to a privileged few, ‘the enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.’” pic.twitter.com/3z8Q1CsBBz
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
8/ The dissent objects to citing antebellum cases because “they come from a time, place, and culture where slavery, honor, violence, and the public carrying of weapons were intertwined.” J. O’Scannlain responds to gun control laws were designed to subordinate the rights of slaves pic.twitter.com/GTkDKDJ3i0
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
9/ J. O’Scannlain explains that post-Civil War evidence is especially relevant for interpreting the right to bear arms as applied to states. Why? 14th Am, ratified in 1868, provides correct timeframe for what I’ve called “Originalism at the Right Time” https://t.co/9HvHESPPwS pic.twitter.com/pEkOCVWQkj
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
10/ Dissent predicts: “the Supreme Court will find it appropriate at some point to revisit the reach of the Second Amendment and to speak more precisely to the limits on the authority of state and local governments to impose restrictions on carrying guns in public” #SCOTUS pic.twitter.com/rHLb790Peu
— Josh Blackman (@JoshMBlackman) July 24, 2018
Just a couple of thoughts here. This case almost certainly goes to an en banc hearing of the Ninth, where I would suspect that it will be overturned. But still, the opinion is now out there as having won at least once. We’ll see it again.
Then the big question becomes does the Supreme Court take it on? They’ve been dodging Second Amendment cases but this one makes it hard. If Peruta says no concealed carry and an en banc Ninth says no open carry either, then the Second Amendment becomes equivalent to your right to have a My Little Pony collection. I’m guessing the case does go to SCOTUS and that this opinion largely carries the day. If so, the Second Amendment is safe and, what is more certain, opposition to concealed carry evaporates because I suspect more gun-grabber legislatures would rather have concealed than open carry.
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I don’t see this news in the loco paper. But if it is true, they finally slammed down this illegal law of theirs that is UN-constitutional tha only the big Kahuna Police Chief can issue CC permits. What baloney!
The PC, himself, was recently indicted on all kinds of crimes along with his wife, who was at one time, the city prosecutor or something.
Then there is that rail problem of theirs. COST? Half a BILLION per mile and there is 20 of it. CORRUPTED State Democrap State.
Check out my comments on this same topic here – /alternative/2018/07/us-appeals-court-decides-americans-have-the-right-to-carry-guns-in-public-3628613.html
AND THEN you will understand why it is still wise to alway have in bold print on your back:
DON’T SHOOT
I AM A ZIONIST JEW!
OK, it’s in the papers now. But I’m not celebrating because its ALWAYS been our rights to carry. It does not need any government permission.
It’s in the Constitution. In Hawaii I heard, you had to get permission from the Big Kahuna Police Cheat, er Chief. The most recent one is probably going to end up in jail as he has been charged with all kinds of crime and was relieved of his duties awhile back.
No one can recall any PC ever issuing a CC permit to carry in Hawaii. Sucking PHONIES!