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Nephilim: The Devils Wear Prada

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Delamer Duverus: “One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out that truth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth, and there is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth.”

 

From ancient Rome to Greece – and before that, to Egypt, Assyria, Babylonia, and Sumer – the earliest records of human civilization tell of the era when powerful creatures known to the Hebrews as Watchers and in the Book of Genesis as the sons of God mingled themselves with humans, giving birth to part-celestial, part-terrestrial hybrids known as the Nephilim derived from the Hebrew root word ‘naphal’ meaning ‘the fallen ones’. Genesis 6:1 says this happened when men began to multiply on Earth (Baby-boomers) and daughters were born unto them (Generation X). When the sons of God saw the women’s beauty, they took wives from among them to give birth to their most unusual offspring. The whole of the ancient record is understood to mean that the Watchers wanted to leave their proper sphere of existence in order to enter Earth’s three-dimensional reality. They viewed women – or at least their genetic material – as part of the formula for accomplishing this task. Spiritual things are not allegorical abstractions; rather, reference is being made to beings or things that do not originate in our dimension. Those entities have their origin in other dimensions known as the spiritual realm. That realm is able to interact with ours in ways that we do not fully understand. The prophecy of Genesis 3:15 states that the serpent will one day mix his seed with humanity to produce a counterfeit of the messiah. In the Book of Daniel (2:43) we read that there will once again come a time when the fallen angels will mingle with the seed of men. Also, the Messiah told us that the last days will be like the days of Noah when fallen angels would once again mix their seed with humanity.

 

Genesis 6:1-7: “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply [Baby-boomers] on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them [Generation X], That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.  And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.  There were Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men [gibborim] which were of old, men of renown.  And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.  And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.  And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.”

 

The Nephilim that were produced by the angel/mankind marriage were much different from either of their parents. This act of defiance clearly went against God’s plan for the Earth in which each animal and human being was to reproduce ‘after its own kind’. This is perhaps the best demonstration that the parents of these creatures were not simply descendants of Cain and Seth.  Had they been, they would have produced human offspring, rather than the Nephilim. The Nephilim were more than simply large beings or giants. When the Greek Septuagint was created, the Hebrew word Nephilim was translated into Greek as gegenes. This is the same word used in Greek mythology for the ‘Titans’, creatures created through the interbreeding of the Greek gods and human beings. (The English words ‘genes’ and ‘genetics’ are built around the same root word as gegenes; genea means ‘bread’ or ‘kind’.)

 

Enoch 6:1-3: “And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied [Baby-boomers] that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters [Generation X].  And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.”

 

Jubilees 5:1-2: “And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply [Baby-boomers] on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them [Generation X], that the angels of God saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants.”

 

W.F. Albright: “The Israelites who heard this section recited unquestionably thought of intercourse between angels and women.”

 

Ante-Nicenes: “…impure love of virgins, and were subjugated by the flesh… Of those lovers of virgins therefore, were begotten those who are called giants… the angels transgressed, and were captivated by love of women and begat children.”

 

1 Enoch 10:3-8: “And I Enoch was blessing the Lord of majesty and the King of the ages, and lo! The Watchers called me – Enoch the scribe – and said to me: Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness, go, declare the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven, the holy eternal place, and have defiled themselves with women, and have done as the children of earth do, and have taken unto themselves wives: Ye have wrought great destruction on the earth: And ye shall have no peace nor forgiveness of sin:  And ye shall have no peace nor forgiveness of sin: and inasmuch as they delight themselves in their children [Nephilim], The murder of their beloved ones shall they see, and over the destruction of their children shall they lament, and shall make supplication unto eternity, but mercy and peace shall ye not attain.” 

 

Jubilees 4:15, 22, 5:1: “The Sons of God were sent down to teach mankind truth and justice; and for three hundred years did indeed teach Cain’s son Enoch all the secrets of heaven and earth.  Later, however, they lusted after mortal women and defiled themselves by sexual intercourse.  Enoch has recorded not only divine instructions, but also their subsequent fall from grace; before the end they were indiscriminately enjoying virgins, matrons, men, and beasts.”

 

Exodus 22:19: “Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.”

 

The Book of Enoch was an ancient best seller before it was lost to be rediscovered alongside the Dead Sea Scrolls the same year as the incident at Roswell. In the centuries immediately preceding and following the coming of Christ, this book was widely read and discussed, and its impact was tremendous.  Without question it is the most notable apocalyptical work outside the canonical Scriptures.  R. H. C. Charles, an outstanding authority in this field, tells us that, “the influence of 1 Enoch on the New Testament has been greater than that of all the other apocryphal and pseudepigraphical books put together”  Jude 14 contains a direct quote from Enoch 1:9, 5:4, and 27:2. Yet, with all the incredible mysteries, this book remained neglected for more than 1,800 years, and continues to remain neglected, and even shunned, in the twentieth century. Enoch is listed in the Bible as the seventh of the ten patriarchs between Adam and Noah. He was the father of Methuselah, the man holding the world’s record for longevity (969). The most remarkable fact of all is that Enoch did not die – ‘Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him’. He is one of the only two men mentioned in the Bible who were translated to Heaven without tasting death. The Book of Enoch also claims that he will return to Earth at the end of time; he will be one of the two martyrs (or witnesses of Revelation) slain on the streets in Jerusalem – the other being Elijah. None of these facts contradict in any way what is told to us in the Bible. Instead, they elaborate on the facts already given.

The Book of Enoch, like the Genesis Apocryphon, refers to these ‘sons of God’ as Watchers – a term also used in the Book of Daniel. Enoch alleges that two hundred of these Watchers descended to Earth in the days of Jared (Genesis 5:18), and some of them are given names. The worst ones of all were Shernihaza, the leader of the evil angels, and Azazel who was accused of having ‘scattered over the earth the secrets of heaven and hath rebelled against the Mighty One’. God was moved to anger at these Watchers because of the horrible practices that they had introduced upon the Earth. And there was something else: God was angry at the fact that they had disclosed certain secrets, and were teaching them to their sons, the Nephilim. We are not told exactly what these secrets were except that they were ‘eternal secrets’ which men of Earth were striving to learn, and which God did not intend for fallen man to discover.

 

Enoch 7:1-6: “And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them…And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells [450 feet (probably an err)]: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men.  And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind.  And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish [This is the true nature of dinosaurs/dragons], and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.  Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.”

 

Genesis 6:12-13: “And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.  And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”

 

Jubilees 5:2-3: “And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike man and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walks on the earth – all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men [was] thus evil continually.”

 

1 Corinthians 15:39-40: “All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.  There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.”

 

This clearly indicates that genetic experiments that place human DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) into animals is an abomination toward God’s Mosaic laws. That this is now being done means that our hi-tech scientific experiments with genetic transfer of human DNA into animals also may mean that we have again entered into a period that is ‘as the days of Noah were’. This is a clear indication that we may be approaching the time of the Great Tribulation, when Satan will make his final assault on mankind.

 

These same Watchers approached Enoch to mediate on their behalf, and to write out a petition in their favor. God, however, rejects the petition and Enoch is summoned to speak to the Watchers again: ‘Go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: Ye should intercede for men, and not men for you.  Wherefore have ye left high, holy and eternal heaven, and lain with women and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men, and taken wives unto yourselves and done like the children of earth begotten giants as sons.  And although ye were holy, spiritual living and eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten children with the blood of flesh, have lusted after flesh and blood as those who do die and perish.’ And as for the Nephilim produced by them: ‘The giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth…Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin…And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, attack, do battle, and work destruction upon the earth…And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them…This shall they destroy until the day of consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated over the Watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated.  And now as to the Watchers…Say to them therefore: Ye have no peace.’

 

Enoch 10:11-12: “And the Lord said unto Michael: ‘Go, bind Shernihaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness.  And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgment and of their consummation, till the judgment that is forever and ever is consummated.”

 

Zadokite Document: “Because they walked in the stubbornness of their heart, the Watchers of heaven fell, yea, they were caught thereby because they kept not the commandments of God.  So too their sons whose bodies were as mountains.  They also fell.”

 

Philo: Philo was a first century Jewish philosopher from Alexandria who was known for trying to make the Bible harmonize with Greek philosophy by way of allegorization.  If anyone should have allegorized away the sons of God and the giants it was Philo, and he did nothing of the sort.  He wrote, “Those beings, whom other philosophers call demons, Moses usually calls angels; and they are souls hovering in the air.  On what principle was it that giants were born of angels and women?  The poets call those men who were born out of the earth giants, that is to say, sons of the Earth…these giants were sprung from a combined procreation of two natures, namely, from angels and mortal women; for the substance of angels is spiritual; but it occurs every now and then that on emergencies occurring they have imitated the appearance of men, and transformed themselves so as to assume the human shape; as they did on occasion, when forming connections with women for the production of giants.”

 

Diodorus: “Although their wives are comely, they have very little to do with them, but rage with lust in outlandish fashion for the embraces of males.  And the most astonishing thing of all is that they feel no concern for their proper dignity but prostitute to others without a qualm the flower of their bodies; nor do they consider this a graceful thing to do, but rather when anyone of them is thus approached and refuses the favor offered him, this they consider an act of dishonor.”

 

Flavius Josephus: “For many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants.”

 

The Testament of Twelve Patriarchs, the testament of Reuben: “For thus they allured the Watchers who were before the flood; for as these continually beheld them, they lusted after them and they conceived the act in their mind; and the women lusting in their minds after their forms, gave birth to giants, for the watchers appeared to them as reaching even unto heaven.”  Could you imagine what girls would do if Thor came down from Asgard and offered himself up to the women of Las Angeles?

 

Isaiah 26:13-14: “O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name.  They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased [Rephaim], they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.”

 

The word ‘Rephaim’ has been translated to mean deceased; however, this word can also mean ‘giants’ or Nephilim. And when one reads it as such, it takes on a much different meaning. This reading reveals why God found it necessary to destroy these creatures from the Earth in order to save mankind. The reason is that the giants created by the interbreeding of humans and angels will not ‘live again’, i.e., they won’t partake in the resurrection of the dead. For some reason the Rephaim will not be brought back to life for judgment. As such, they enable Satan to destroy mankind by robbing people of the ability to be resurrected to eternal life. For the same reason, it was essential for the Israelites to wipe out the Nephilim which they found in the Promised Land. Unfortunately, they did not appear to succeed (or, if they did, Satan was able to make an ‘end run’ around the actions to produce more Nephilim throughout the world following this period). With the information Isaiah reveals about the giants, we now see that the Nephilim could not be resurrected and also influence people to do evil. Because the Bible makes it clear that the offspring of the Nephilim were also giants, this situation undoubtedly snowballed with more interbreeding between the giants and human beings as well as through the wickedness the Nephilim exerted on those around them. The only solution was to wipe the creatures and those they had corrupted from the face of the Earth.

 

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1 Samuel 28:13: “And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.”

 

Leviticus 20:27: “A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.”

 

This Mosaic law also had an admonition against relationships with ‘spirits’ which is generally interpreted to mean engaging in witchcraft. However, a careful reading of this suggests it might also encompass the fallen angel/woman couplings that took place in Noah’s time or, if not the actual sex act, this law may be designed in preventing man and women from having the intimate contact with angels that will eventually lead to a sexual relationship as well (if so, it is interesting to note that many in the New Age movement have taken this first step through the adoption of ‘familiar spirits’ and ‘spirit guides’).

 

What people commonly think of as ghosts are what remains of the Nephilim; as such, it is important to remember that such spirits would be purely evil. By the same token, it would appear that the New Age’s ‘spirit guides’ might, in fact, be the evil spirits of the Rephaim, taking advantage of human ignorance to mislead and do damage. This may explain why séances and other witchcraft that purports to contact the dead is forbidden by God. It can be easy to confuse these beings since angels sometimes operate on the spiritual realm. However, it appears that in cases of demon possession or similar activities, the spiritual being is actually that of a Nephilim whose body has been destroyed. Unfortunately, modern man is quite vulnerable to the Devil’s lies and attacks. The ‘wisdom’ or our time has convinced modern man that demons and the Devil are non-existent. We have been conditioned to think that those once dismissed as demon-possessed were simply mentally ill. That makes it impossible for many to take any action to protect themselves from satanic influences. After all, if something doesn’t exist, there’s no need to worry about it – right?

 

Out of all the sins committed by these Watchers, defiling themselves with earth women seems to have been the purpose for this extreme punishment – any altering of God’s creation seems to do the trick though. When we are not of the flesh created by God, we cannot be taken by the Holy Spirit. We must remember, we were created perfectly in God’s image and likeness (what He looks like and how He acts) but the fall of sin corrupted that image. Light that was coming from Adam was not being produced from his own self, but was absorbed from God and then reemitted, very much like how things glow in the dark. The fact that DNA emits light is now a well-established fact. When Adam sinned the Holy Spirit left him and the direct connection to the light source was broken. When the serpent said, ‘ye shall be as Gods’, Adam and Eve were already like God! The light that is now emitted from living things is not coming from the ultimate light source which is God himself but presumably from the sun. After the fall, death (errors in the genetic code) entered our first parents and those errors have not only been passed to all of the descendants, but the loss of data has been increasing over time as would be consistent with data loss in the world of computers. Humanity has been suffering from an information loss in our own source code. This is what the Mayan prophecy is really all about; it’s an awakening; a return to the original source. If Satan had by any means prevented the birth of Jesus, he would obviously have averted his own doom. Satan did succeed to a large extent. It was for this reason that God drowned mankind in the great Deluge.

 

2 Peter 2:4-10: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.”

 

Jude 1:5-8: “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.  Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.  Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.”

 

The basic intention for the corruption of antediluvian DNA by the Watchers was an effort to cut off the birth line of the Messiah. This is why God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and to fill the earth (multiply). The DNA manipulation was to create a hybrid form that neither the spirit of man nor God would inhabit, because it was neither man nor beast, and thus provided an unusual body made up of human, animal, and plant genetics known as Nephilim, an Earth-born ‘fit extension’ into which the Watchers could extend themselves – much like the idea of demonic possession. Only Noah – and by extension, his children – were found ‘perfect’ in their generation. From Jesus’ words we see that there will be no need for any more procreation once we reach heaven because we will be eternal (Luke 20:35-36). Nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels are incapable of mixing their seed with humans. What we learn from Peter and Jude is that they were not supposed to. The fallen angels (sons of God) literally left their proper domain – a spirit realm that is parallel to our own – and came/fell to Earth where they fathered their Nephilim offspring with human woman. But, as you read in Genesis 6:4, there were Nephilim in the earth in those days, and also after that…

 

Jubilees 10:7-12: “The malignant evil ones were bound in the place of condemnation, but a tenth part of them were left that they might be subject before Satan on the earth.  These are for corruption and leading astray men before Satan’s judgment.”

 

What we know from the Book of Enoch and Jubilees is that 10% of Satan’s angels were allowed to stay to influence the beliefs of men. If this were not so, then Lucifer would have been completely stripped of his freewill; he would have already been tossed into the bottomless pit and the game would be over. But this is not the case. Satan is here to lead men astray until his time has come and we must be able to recognize it if we wish to be redeemed by the Lord. While it may appear that the demons who crossed the line when mingling with humans were thrown into the pit, other demons must have taken women and gave birth to Nephilim after the flood. We know from scripture that there was Nephilim in the land of Canaan when the children of Israel came to take possession of their Promised Land. Upon seeing the Nephilim, they lost their faith that God could win the battle for them and so they were taken back to the wilderness where they wandered for another forty years. The Nephilim were the sole reason why the children of Israel did not possess the land right after leaving Egypt. The presence of Nephilim disheartened the twelve spies who consequently gave a bad report.

 

Numbers 13:29-33: “The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.  And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.  But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.  And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.  And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”

Deuteronomy 2:10-11: “The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.”

 

Josephus: “For which reason they removed their camp to Hebron; and when they had taken it, they slew all the inhabitants.  There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing.  The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men.”  Apparently, the bones of these creatures were made available for people to see in Josephus’s time.  These giants have not always been the great secret that they are today; the numerous stories sharing incredible similarities from all across the planet should attest to that.

 

Amos 2:9-10: “Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.  Also I brought you up from the land of Egypt, and led you forty years through the wilderness, to possess the land of the Amorite.”

 

2 Samuel 21:20: “And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”

 

When they came back to the land forty years later, the Nephilim were still there, but the children of Israel finally trusted in God. Just as God destroyed the Earth with a flood to wipe the Nephilim from the face of the Earth during Noah’s time, so he used the flood of invading Jews flowing into the Promised Land to wipe out the giants they encountered. Realizing that some of the cities in the Promised Land were filled with Nephilim explains why God ordered some of the cities totally destroyed with the citizens in them to be put under the edge of the sword. God didn’t want any of these monsters to once again pollute the human gene pool. God dealt out the same total destruction to these beings as he had with Noah’s Flood.

 

The culture that ruled much of the Promised Land when the Israelites invaded it was comprised of two classes with the Anakim acting as a ruling elite within a larger human population. 2 Samuel contains reference to the genetic mutations that developed among humans following this time frame, including ‘men’ of unusual size, physical strength, six fingers, six toes, animal appetite for blood, double dentition, and even lion-like features (21:20, 23:20). Joshua and Caleb were the only two spies that Moses sent to the land of Canaan who were willing to obey God and fight these giants out of shear faith in the Lord’s protection – much like what we know from the story of David and Goliath. By the end of this forty year period, all of the Israelites had died except for Joshua and Caleb who remained to lead this new generation to victory over the Amorites. The fact that God commanded the Israelites to destroy man, woman, and child becomes logical if we understand that – as the text clearly says – all people in the land were not merely sons of Adam, but were a mix between the sons of God (fallen angels) and human women just like in the days of Noah. Og, King of Bashan, was the last recorded giant east of the Jordan River (Joshua 12:4, 13:12). After Joshua’s conquest of Canaan (Joshua 11:21–22), a few giants continued living in the Philistine cities of Gaza, Gath and Ashdod. These giants terrorized the Israelites from the time they entered into Canaan until late in the reign of King David. One of those giants was Goliath, whom David killed. King David and his “mighty men” also encountered other giants (2 Samuel 21:16–22, Chronicles 20:4–8) though we are essentially told that they were all killed off during his armies reign. Everything after this point becomes a mystery and all we can really do is use our biblical discretion to discern truth from fiction.

 

Steve Quayle: “This brings us to a big question: If the Nephilim actually existed, both in pre-Noah times as well as during the civilizations created by Noah’s family’s offspring after the flood, why are there not fossils, graves, artifacts and other evidence that they existed?  In fact, all of these are present!  It’s just that modern scientists, historians and theologians like to ignore them, hide the evidence or keep the information under wraps.  Why?  Because the evidence is far from comfortable and doesn’t fit in nicely with the idea that man is evolving, changing without influence from outside powers and that the Bible is irrelevant to modern societies.  Furthermore, their existence must be covered up in order to lay the groundwork for Satan’s final assault against humanity.  Among the documented discoveries of the last two centuries are: (1) in 1833, soldiers digging at Lompock Rancho, California, discovered a male skeleton 12 feet tall.  The skeleton had double rows of upper and lower teeth. (2) A nine-foot, eight inch skeleton was excavated from a mount near Brewersville, Indiana in 1879. (3) In Clearwater, Minnesota, the Skeletons of seven giants were found in mounds.  These had receding foreheads and complete double dentition. (4) Miners in Lovelock Cave, California, discovered a very tall, red-haired mummy in 1911.  This mummy eventually went to a fraternal lodge where it was used for ‘initiation purposes’. (5) In 1947, a local newspaper reported the discovery of nine-foot-tall skeletons by amateur archeologists working in Death Valley.  The archeologists involved also claimed to have found what appeared to be the bones of tigers and dinosaurs with the human remains. (6) In 1931, skeletons from eight and a half to ten feet long were found in the Humbolt lake bed in California. (7) The Catalina Islands, off California, are the home of dwarf mammoth bones that were once roasted in ancient fire pits.  These were roasted and eaten by human-like creatures who were giants with double rows of teeth.”

 

According to Deuteronomy 3:13, Bashan was called the land of the giants. If we research the area, we will run across a structure known as Gilgal Refaim. This structure is made of megalithic stones weighing a total of 37,500 metric tons stacked 8ft high, with a diameter of 520ft, and a 15ft high tumulus (tomb) in the center. A tumulus is a mound raised over a grave or graves. The best way to observe Gilgal Refaim is by being very tall or being airborne. It is fascinating that there is a giant burial mound in the middle of Golan, just where the Bible says there were giants living. If someone somewhere discovered absolute proof of a hybrid person or animal, could we actually rely on the governments of the world to share this information? More than likely, the answer is no. There have been numerous reports of giant skeletons being discovered all over the world, but how many are on display for us to see? Almost as numerous as the stories of these discoveries, are the stories of findings being confiscated and people being told not to talk about it.  Why exactly is our human history being covered up? Is it because there is a sinister power behind those that appear to be in power? What if we knew the true intentions of these beings that ancients claim enslaved mankind?  Would we fight back or would we conform?

Gary Stearman, had this to say about ruins in the region that the Canaanites occupied during these ancient times: “Today, tourists marvel at the ruins in this region.  They are of truly gigantic proportion.  As we have written earlier, ‘Here, and northward into Syria and Lebanon, there are the remains of ancient buildings and temples that stagger the imagination.  For example, the ruins of Baalbek in Lebanon’s Beqa` a Valley are so massive that some have suggested they could not be duplicated, even using modern building techniques.  On the Acropolis of Baalbeck, stood a temple dedicated to the storm god Hadad.  It was 60 feet wide and 290 feet long, surrounded by 19 columns, each 62 feet high and over seven feet in diameter.  But its flooring stones – still intact – are each larger than a modern railroad boxcar.  No one can imagine how they were moved into place.”

Job 1:6-7: “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.  And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”

 

Satan/Lucifer was once in the very presence of God acting as a covering cherub (Ezekiel 28:14) as well as the chief of all the angels (Ezekiel 28:24). At some point Satan became self-deluded, thinking that he could ascend up the very throne and importance of God (Isaiah 14:13-14). Iniquity was found in his heart (Ezekiel 28:15); he was cast out of God’s presence (Ezekiel 28:13-19) to become the prince of the power of the air (Ephesians 2:2), which he remains until this day. Apparently, Lucifer retained his ability to shapeshift (2 Corinthians 11:14), cross dimensions (Job 1 and 2), and manipulate time (Luke 4:5). He then set out to trick Adam and Eve, whom God had created in His image and had placed in the Garden of Eden.

 

Genesis 1:1-2: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

The phrase ‘In the beginning’ really is closer to being a ‘big inning’ than just the point at which things started. It tells that God made the heavens and the earth, but doesn’t give an inkling as to when or how. The idea is bolstered by the fact that when Hebrew writers wanted to note the actual beginning of a time, as the time of day or week when a harvest commenced for example, the word employed was most often ‘techillah’. This word connotes an opening or commencement. And this passage avoids the use of this word. ‘Techillah’ wasn’t the word Moses chose to tell about the beginning of the heavens and the Earth. In other words, this opening passage of the Bible isn’t necessarily telling about the start of things as is often thought but rather denotes that a period took place during which that first state of being took place and during which God created the heavens and the earth.

 

In the second verse, the word ‘waw’ is translated ‘and’. However, ‘waw’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘and’. It can also mean ‘but’. The ‘and’ was chosen simply because the translators felt it fit well there when reading it in the context of the two verses together. This alternate reading with ‘but’ suggests that even though God had created the heavens and the earth in a perfect form during the previous period (as described in verse 1), an event took place before verse 2 that has caused the whole world to become chaotic. It can then be seen that something has changed, and that while this is a beginning for the saga of mankind, there was, in every likelihood, a previous existence of some sort. God has no real end but is eternal, one must therefore assume that the ‘beginning’ before His works simply means: before what can be seen in this age was created, not before God. So this suggests that some cataclysmic event has taken place, causing the old world to be totally wasted and uninhabitable. The original creation, which had been perfect, had ‘become’ desolate and void. I believe that whatever event that it was that caused everything to become ‘without form and void’ has something to do with the asteroid belt and what’s on Mars.

 

The Hebrew word ‘tohuw’ is translated as ‘without form’. This word appears elsewhere in the Bible and takes on some finer associations and meanings, including formlessness, confusion, unreality, and emptiness. It also is associated with the unreal, as with an idol as well as wasteland and solitary wilderness. In the adverbial form, ‘tohuw’ means ‘wastefully’ or ‘in vain’. Thus, while the word used here means primarily a wasteland, there are undercurrents and hints of idolatry, pride, and sin through the choice of this word.

 

The Hebrew word ‘bohuw’ is generally employed throughout the Bible in connection with the desolation of a city or nation. It also connotes an undercurrent of judgment from God (as in Isaiah 34:11 where the Lord’s judgment results in desolation). Thus, when the earth was ‘void’ it was desolate. That this is a judgment from God is further bolstered by the idea that darkness is upon the face of the earth, since this is associated with evil in the Bible while God is associated with light. Thus, the ‘without form, and void’ suggests not just physical desolation but spiritual as well.

 

The ‘deep’, or ‘tehom’, further reinforces this feeling that things were under judgment. While this word is often associated with the sea or deep water, it has other shades of meaning as well, including the abyss and the grave. Thus, ‘tehom’ is employed in Genesis 7:11 where it is translated as ‘the great waters’ of Noah’s Flood and in Psalm 36:6 as a ‘a great deep’ associated with the God’s judgment. The deep does refer to the ocean. But it also is symbolic of a judgment against wrongdoing and bolsters the overall feel that things are not right in creation as the opening passage of Genesis suggests.

 

Genesis 1:3-5: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

The ‘Let there be light’ phrase does not appear to be a creative act when one studies the Hebrew words and their usage here. Most likely, the universe of stars, sun and moon were created during the ‘in the beginning’ period but not visible on the earth, due to the darkness that apparently enveloped it. This also explains why the earth could be in existence during a long span of time without there being days and nights on the surface. For some reason, a thick cloud cover or water canopy perhaps, daylight didn’t reach the surface of the planet. This, in turn, suggests that something evil might very well have changed the planet for the worse. Only when God was preparing to create man and living organisms on the face of the planet did He make days and nights appear on its surface. Time didn’t start with the first day on Earth; but the separation of day and night on the surface of the planet made it possible to tell time as the first days started rolling around, marking God’s creation of life on the planet.

 

This reading of the past is not disproven by fossil records or the like because it’s not only possible but almost a certainty that pre-historic, pre-Adamic life was on earth ‘before’ the Genesis 1:2 reforming of an earth that had become formless and void. If anything, fossils buttress this reading of the Genesis account with its re-creation of the creatures that now inhabit it and the vanishing of the vast hordes of creatures such as the dinosaurs.

 

The Hebrew story of creation cannot be viewed as an isolated account known only to the ancient Jews. Rather, it is a story that has been mimicked and copied by very many other cultures, some of which could not have seen the Hebrew writings before developing their own versions of the basic story. That stories with similar elements sprang up in very different cultures around the world suggests that these stories have a common origin, with the Biblical account arguably the most accurate due to the unique pains that were taken in keeping the stories true to the original Word. Please note that the scribes copying the various books of the Old and New Testaments did so with strict supervision and careful checking by the scribe as well as those working with him to avoid errors. Where many cultures rewarded the embellishment of stories, the Jewish writers worked in the opposite direction: the stories were never to be altered even by punctuation.

 

So we know that when Lucifer was introduced in the Garden of Eden, he was already in the form of a serpent. In this case, we can assume that whatever it was that caused the Earth to go ‘without form and void’ was linked to what I would consider ‘the first rebellion’.

 

1 Timothy 4:1: “In the latter times, some shall depart the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”

 

Deuteronomy 32:17: “They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.”

 

Revelation 12:7-9: “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

 

Matthew 25:41: “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.” 

 

Dr. I.D.E. Thomas: “It seems clear to me that the ‘sons of God’ are none other than fallen angels, and because of their further sin of lusting after the ‘daughters of men’ many were imprisoned by God.  Both the near annihilation of the human race and the incarceration of the fallen angels in Tartarus indicate the magnitude of the sin they committed.  By such drastic judgment, God saved the human race from a calamity worse than the physical death originally imposed upon them.”

The term ‘sons of God’ in the Bible is limited to three categories: angels, Adam, and the believers in Christ. So there are only two ways to become a son of God: one way is by being a direct creation of God and the other way is by receiving Christ. If the devil has angels and they are cast into the lake of fire, then they cannot be good angels. Thus they are fallen angels, or also known as demons. The biblical evidence is conclusive that the Nephilim were, in fact, men of extraordinary stature and that they descended from human mothers and fallen angel fathers. The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God’s greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race. God’s law of reproduction, according the biblical account of creation is ‘everything after his kind’. God’s law makes it impossible for giants to be produced by normal parentage. To produce such monstrosities as the Nephilim presupposes supernatural parentage. When one deals with the world of the supernatural, rationality is never an argument. If there were demonic-human (Nephilim) hybrids in the days of Noah and afterward, then what will there be at the time of Jesus’ return?

 

Apostle Paul says that we have become a new creation in Christ. As new creations, we are adopted by God becoming ‘sons of God’. The down payment of the Holy Spirit is evidence that we are new creations and are now waiting for the full package when we get to heaven. Therefore, the Holy Spirit must have indwelt Adam prior to his fall because he was classified as a son of God. We are sons of God because we are direct creations of God.  We share that feature with the angels, whom we shall be like in heaven. However, God did not form them from the earth, nor did He breathe his own life into the angels and so we possess something that sets us apart from them as far as being sons of God is concerned. The work of the cross was the correction of what had been lost four thousand years before. The Spirit was breathed into Adam, the first (earthly) son of God; he lost it and now the Spirit dwells in the sons of God who we have become by believing in Jesus’ name. The Spirit is the guarantee or down payment for what is about to come upon the Earth.

 

John 1:12: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.”

 

2 Corinthians 5:17: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.”

 

Galatians 6:15: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.”

 

Another hint of the relationship between angels and women is given by Paul in his letter to Corinth. Here, the apostle tells women that they should cover their heads as a sign of subjection to their husbands – and also ‘because of the angels’. Paul apparently believed that a woman’s uncovered head was tempting to angels as well as men. Not surprisingly, Jewish tradition maintains that it was the beauty of women’s long hair that attracted and tempted the angels to sin in the Genesis 6 account.

 

Francis A. Schaefer: “More and more we are finding that mythology in general though greatly contorted very often has some historic base.  And the interesting thing is that one myth which occurs over and over again in many parts of the world is that somewhere a long time ago supernatural beings had sexual intercourse with natural women and produced a special breed of people.”

 

The basic message of the apocryphal documents and the various mythologies find corroboration in God’s word. Spirit-beings from ‘outer space’ did arrive on Earth, and did produce these unnatural offspring known as the Nephilim. By this cross-breading, man became more and more absorbed with evil and violence; the human race became tainted and corrupted; and soon the Earth was unsalvageable. These creatures, by means of genetic manipulation, had succeeding in contaminating God’s special creation; so much so, that their destruction, as well as that of man, became a moral necessity. The famous Ancient Astronaut theorist Erick Von Daniken has supplied us with a wealth of samples from around the world: The ancient Sumerian records tell of gods descending from the stars and fertilizing their ancestors. This interbreeding of gods from heaven and women from Earth is supposed to have produced the first men upon the Earth. The Koreans believed that a heavenly king sent his son to Earth and married an Earth woman who gave birth to Tangun Waggom. It was he who was supposed to have welded all the primitive tribes together into one kingdom. From India came the Mahabharata and other ancient Sanskrit texts, which tell of gods begetting children with women on Earth, and how these children inherited the supernatural skills and teachings of their fathers. A similar mythology is found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, where we read of Watchers from outer space coming to planet Earth and producing giants. Also, an early Persian myth tells that before the coming of Zoroaster, demons had corrupted the Earth, and allied themselves with women.

 

The recurring theme is that ‘gods’ came from the sky and dwelt in various places, creating advances in the cultures in which they chose to live. Bolstering this idea is the fact that the figures carved into the earth appear to be related to the constellations in the sky. Another source of information is the abundance of myths, legends, and folklore and fables that speak of giants upon the earth in ancient times, and how there was sexual union between demigods from Heaven and women from Earth. Many scholars believe that myths emerged from a kernel of historical fact. According to Andrew Thomas, mythology and folklore are “thought-fossils depicting the story of vanished cultures in symbols and allegories.” David Flynn told us before his untimely passing that, “Through time and the change of culture the symbols of the mysteries have endured, incorporated into the dogma of…philosophies and religions.” The whole story of Greek mythology is an expanded version of that astonishing verse in the Bible: ‘That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose’. Later, of course, many of these myths and legends developed an overgrowth of fictional imagery and imaginative fantasy, which clung to them like moss to the mill. There can be little doubt, however, that beneath this dense overgrowth lies the plant of truth. What began as factual, historic documentation has ended up as a long-lost legend waiting to be rediscovered at the appointed time when the Lord would raise his watchman in the final hour to warn those with eyes who will see and ears who will hear.

 

Man will not face the judgment alone, but we will be joined by the angels that rebelled against God.  Lucifer thought he actually had a chance of winning against God. Some people say, ‘it is better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven’, but only the uninformed say that. Lucifer does not reign in hell; he is tossed into hell after he is judged. Hell is not going to be a party or mere separation from God. It will be complete and righteous judgment for those that want nothing to do with God. God has never and will never force anyone to love Him. Therefore hell and judgment are necessary in order to give people what they truly desire. Those that truly want to be with God will inherit the kingdom of heaven, and those that do not will inherit the judgment of hell. Unfortunately for those who choose to believe a lie, ignorance will not be bliss.

 

1 Corinthians 13:11: “When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.”

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    • am123

      Excellent! Glad to see you jumped in the pool Omega! :grin:

    • Dregone

      Nobody cares………………………..yawn.

      • Omega Files

        Hosea 4:6: ” My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee”

      • am123

        You should qualify your statement Dregone…….”Nobody who is perishing cares”.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, We DEMONS are free and about to launch the apocalypse …. You are helpless and cannot stop us.
      We will launch on February 3rd. at 10AM. Ummmmm the 15th!!!
      Please be packed and ready for the RAPTURE …. incidentally, the “rapture” is actually OPPOSITE of what the FAKE-preachers have been saying. You will be sucked down to HADES, for DINNER, not up to “heaven”. So …………………. SEE YOU SOON……… please remove all jewelry and piecings as they get stuck in our toofers.
      Thank You
      Head Daemon In Charge

    • MissouriMotto

      Hmmm…IDK…Several legit ‘sticking points’.
      The judgment in Genesis 6 is clearly on ”Man”, not hybrids…”Man”, whom ”he had made”, whom HE had made, I emphasize again, Genesis says WHOM HE HAD MADE, not what Angels had produced, how does one explain away that one?
      Another one is Enoch stating the Giant’s height was “3000 ells”, which conservative estimates put the giant’s height much taller than a Football field is long…uhhh, I don’t think so…sorry.

      • Omega Files

        “The judgment in Genesis 6 is clearly on ”Man”, not hybrids…”Man”

        Where does it say this? Show me one piece of evidence. The ignorance on this website shows no limits. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that the ‘sons of God’ from the Genesis 6 account were men and I thoroughly explained this.

        The term ‘sons of God’ in the Bible is limited to three categories: angels, Adam, and the believers in Christ. So there are only two ways to become a son of God: one way is by being a direct creation of God and the other way is by receiving Christ.

        The Nephilim that were produced by the angel/mankind marriage were much different from either of their parents. This act of defiance clearly went against God’s plan for the Earth in which each animal and human being was to reproduce ‘after its own kind’. This is perhaps the best demonstration that the parents of these creatures were NOT simply descendants of Cain and Seth. Had they been, they would have produced human offspring, rather than the Nephilim.

        2 Peter 2:4: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.”

        Jude 1:5-8: “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.”

        From Messiah’s own words we see that there will be no need for any more procreation once we reach heaven because we will be eternal (Luke 20:35-36). Nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels are incapable of mixing their seed with humans. What we learn from Peter and Jude is that they were not supposed to. The fallen angels (sons of God) literally left their proper domain – a spirit realm that is parallel to our own – and came/fell to Earth where they fathered their Nephilim offspring with human woman.

        Isaiah 26:13-14: “O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased [Rephaim], they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.”

        The word Rephaim has been translated to mean deceased; however, this word can also mean ‘giants’ or Nephilim. And when one reads it as such, it takes on a much different meaning. This reading reveals why God found it necessary to destroy these creatures from the Earth in order to save mankind. The reason is that the giants created by the interbreeding of humans and angels will not ‘live again’, i.e., they won’t partake in the resurrection of the dead. For some reason the Rephaim will not be brought back to life for judgment.

        “Another one is Enoch stating the Giant’s height was “3000 ells”,

        Enoch is not part of the written Word so it absolutely cannot be taken at face value. It seems very possible that an extra zero could have been added on sometime over the last 5,000 years or so. Though maybe there were a few giants that were that big; Greek mythology would tell us there was. Unless you were alive before the Deluge you seem incredibly unqualified to make the assertion that anything in here is untrue.

    • Pix

      “Delamer Duverus: “One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out that truth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth, and there is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth.””

      Yep, where the majority, Christ-I-Anti’s will be wailing and gnashing their teeth, because it’s nothing but plagiarised ancient pagan literature. Welcome to planet Earth all you sky pilots.

      :lol:

      • Omega Files

        Pix: do you think before you type?

        • MissouriMotto

          This is Mythology that Scripture say some will ”chase” after in the last days because those who teach it always seem to be obsessed with it, can’t let it go, and CHASE after it, and the ones teaching this stuff always tend be at the entertaining supermarket tabloid corner of the internet, Which I enjoy myself sometimes, and take these mostly extra-biblical Jewish Fairy Tales with a big grain of salt….The Jews were very well known for embellishing these stories anyway, you should know this already, It’s what they DID.

          2 Tim 4:4: …They will reject the truth and chase after myths..”
          1 Tim 1:4 …or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work–which is by faith.”

        • Omega Files

          I assume that you are a Catholic?

    • MissouriMotto

      The judgment in Genesis 6 is clearly on ”Man”, not hybrids…”Man”

      Where does it say this? Show me one piece of evidence.

      I’ll give you 5.
      Genesis 6 up to Chapter 7 mentions “Man” being the culprit here, and mentions “Man” being the target of the upcoming deluge 5 TIMES.

      • Omega Files

        Genesis 6:4: ” There were Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men [gibborim] which were of old, men of renown.”

        Explain away the use of the word ‘Nephilim’. Are you suggesting that YHWH Elohim made a mistake?

    • MissouriMotto

      No sir, I’m not Catholic… You still haven’t addressed Why does God mention “Man” five times being the culprit and the target of the deluge in Genesis 6 up to Chapter 7….5 times.

      The wording in Genesis 6:7 does not implicitly mention the offspring of the union of the Sons Of God and the daughters of Men being the Nephilim, because one take that wording as the Nephilim being on the Earth ALREADY while the Sons of God came into the daughters of Men,
      so who cares who the Nephilim were anyway, because another big mistake Nephilim advocates do is mention Jesus hinting ”as it was in the days of Noah” quote extrapolating that to mean that the Nephilim will return once again taking Jesus’ quote WAY out of context in light of what Jesus says immediately after that…the Nephilim is ancient history and have absolutely nothing to do with the last days whatsoever…Mankind’s been evil enough over the centuries.

    • MissouriMotto

      I apologize…that was Gen 6:4…No edit function here.

      • Omega Files

        MissouriMotto:

        “You still haven’t addressed Why does God mention “Man” five times being the culprit and the target of the deluge in Genesis 6 up to Chapter 7….5 times.”

        I’ve clearly answered this. Not only did I answer this in my article, but I also answered this on your first post. I’ll go through this step-by-step for you. Don’t be short-cited now, I’m writing this with YOU specifically in mind. It would be very unwise to casually whisk away this message.

        Just because you see the word ‘man’ does not mean you can discount the presence of the ‘sons of God’ and the ‘Nephilim’ – a presence that is supported throughout Scripture as I clearly demonstrated in this article. To discount the ‘sons of God’ and the ‘Nephilim’ as some allegorical abstraction would be a mistake of epic proportions. Might I suggest that you go back and re-read this article VERY CAREFULLY. I know that the material is very dense. I purposely did it that way. I put as much information in to as short amount of space as possible.

        Genesis 6:1-7:

        1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

        (Think of the phrase ‘when man began to multiply’ as the equivalent to our modern day Baby-boomer generation. Next, we learn that this generation gave birth to the ‘daughters of men’. Notice how this verse focuses on the ‘daughters’ of men.)

        2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

        (Now, here’s that phrase again: ‘sons of God’. So as I said, the term ‘sons of God’ in the Bible is limited to three categories: angels, Adam, and the believers in Christ. You can try to dispute this but you will fail. Sometimes you just have to count your losses and realize that maybe your knowledge isn’t all-powerful. May I suggest that you start your studies with the Book of Job. If the Messiah had not been born yet, and if Adam is a single individual, then the phrase ‘sons of God’ can only be applied to the angels. 2 Peter 2:4: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell”; Jude 1:6-7: “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day… giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh… suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” Nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels are incapable of mixing their seed with humans. What we learn from Peter and Jude is that they were not supposed to. Matthew 25:41: “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels”; Revelation 12:7-9: “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels.” If the devil has angels and they are cast into the lake of fire, then they cannot be good angels. Thus they are fallen angels. Now if you still don’t understand this then I don’t know how to help you. You should be bending your beliefs to fit the Scripture, not bending the Scripture to fit your pet doctrines. Deuteronomy 4:2: “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.”)

        3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

        (So here is that other word again, ‘man’, which you seem to oddly gravitate towards through an incredibly narrow cognitive corridor. The important phrase here is when YHWH Elohim says, “My spirit shall not always strive with man”. Now, why would the YHWH leave us? Not only was YHWH angry at the fact that the angels had disclosed certain secrets, and were teaching them to their sons, the Nephilim – we are not told exactly what these secrets were except that they were ‘eternal secrets’ which men of Earth were striving to learn, and which God did not intend for fallen man to discover -, but also, when we are not of the flesh created by God, we cannot be taken by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit cannot enter us, if we are not His creation – in His image and likeness. So out of all the sins committed by these Watchers, defiling themselves with earth women seems to have been the purpose for this extreme punishment.)

        4 There were giants [NEPHILIM] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

        (This verse shouldn’t need explaining at this point. The Nephilim are clearly stated as the offspring of the copulation between the ‘sons of God’ – fallen angels – and the ‘daughters of men’ – which would be the equivalent of the modern day ‘Generation X’. Though in this Anti-Diluvian account, we know that this began during the days of Jared – the fifth patriarch from Adam. Now look at the phrase ‘the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown’. Who were the old MEN of renown you might ask? Wouldn’t the ‘gods’ of old sound befitting? The term mighty men was originally Written as ‘gibborim’. This is NOT a term that is used when referring to man as created in His image and likeness. We also see this term arise after the Flood – ‘and also after that’ – when referencing the first Nephilim, Nimrod, who BECAME a mighty man – gibborim.)

        “The wording in Genesis 6:7 does not implicitly mention the offspring of the union of the Sons Of God and the daughters of Men being the Nephilim, because one take that wording as the Nephilim being on the Earth ALREADY while the Sons of God came into the daughters of Men,”

        I believe my point has been made… This conversation ends with this post. Just know that you have seen the information that you will be held accountable for. You will not be able to claim ignorance.

        Acts 17:30: “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”

        “so who cares who the Nephilim were anyway, because another big mistake Nephilim advocates do is mention Jesus hinting ”as it was in the days of Noah”

        First off, saying ‘who cares’ about the Nephilim is simply another demonstration of your arrogance which is further extrapolated by suggesting that Nephilim ‘advocates’ referring to Matthew 24 are making a big ‘mistake’. You, sir, are making a lot of assumptions without providing any Biblical support. If you want to see what a man looks like who can’t come to understand his own carnal incompetence, then look in the mirror. I’ll tell you someone ‘who cares’: the Messiah. He specifically spoke about it in Peter, Jude, and in Revelation – not to mention the POSSIBILITY of Matthew. To suggest that you have it all figured out demonstrates arrogance that has no boundaries. Nobody has it figured out. Not me. Nobody. I’ve simply compiled the Biblical and extra-Biblical evidence to support the notion. All you have done is compiled your own thoughts in a feeble attempt to discredit. Of course you don’t believe that the Nephilim will return when Messiah says, ‘as it was in the days of Noah’ because you don’t believe in the Nephilim to begin with – even though it is clearly stated in Genesis 6:4. Would you agree with me by suggesting that DNA alteration of the human genome can be done, or already has by done, in modern laboratories? Wouldn’t DNA alteration, even if by man, suggest a correlation to the days of Noah when the human gene pool had been corrupted with Nephilim DNA? Of course! What else do you want me to tell you? I’m sure you know the story of Thomas – who has earned the moniker ‘doubting Thomas’. He’s our evidence from Scripture that some people simply need more evidence than others. Some people need to see the physical evidence in order to believe. That sir, is you.

        John 20:27-29: “Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

        Take careful consideration of how Thomas was invited to examine the Messiah. Jesus spoke to him and said, in essence, ‘here is the evidence of my death, and my Resurrection’. Upon seeing such, Thomas proclaimed, ‘My Lord and my God!’ Then Jesus said something even more compelling. He told Thomas, even though Thomas believed because of the evidence, ‘Blessed are those who have not seen yet have believed’ (v.29). Here, we see that Thomas missed out on a blessing because he had doubt and needed to have a closer, more intimate look at the evidence that was all around him. Thomas was intended to be our example that some people simply need to see more evidence than others. However, the Bible never claims, nor does the evidence indicate, that the evidence is not and has not been provided. Messiah provided what Thomas needed; He simply reserves a greater blessing for the pure and innocent of faith. By seeing the evidence up close and personal, Thomas moved to a place where to doubt God, to doubt the Messiah, would have taken a defiant act of disobedience before God. Thomas moved into the world of evidence, in which everything around him – because he then knew the absolute Truth – testified to the Deity of Yahushua.

        Just know that Messiah holds a much higher blessing for ‘those who have not seen yet have believed’. With all due respect, to outright deny that this could happen is a very dangerous thing to do, and unless we can definitively disregard the theory, then we are at no capacity to be jumping to conclusions. WHEN, or if, ‘they’ return, you will immediately fall down enraptured to your knees knowing that you have seen the truth – wishing that you had seen reality. I’ll pray to Yahushua, that He will wake you up before that moment occurs.

        God bless.

    • MissouriMotto

      Before getting into this, I need to make three points.

      (1) An argument is not legitimate if its truth value depends on the reality of its conclusion. In other words, an argument is illegitimate if it presupposes its own conclusion. That is circular reasoning.

      (2) Theodicean arguments (i.e., arguments meant to defend God’s reputation), especially those that supply novel interpretations of biblical passages to explain away dissonant passages in the text (like God’s order of execution on the inhabitants of Canaan), are by nature weak arguments. You may be able to supply an interpretation that gets God “off the hook,” so to speak, for some ostensibly awful actions, but that does NOT make your interpretation plausible or accurate. That only makes it comforting.

      (3) Just because you are able to supply an answer to a difficult question, that doesn’t mean that your answer is correct. Having an answer is NOT a point in favor of your position, especially if your answer is simplistic and/or anachronistic (i.e., not fitting the time to which the text refers).

      Now on to the foundational point so as to keep these posts as short as I possibly can:

      This is very poor reading on your part. First of all, Gen: 6 doesn’t say that “ONLY MEN OF REKNOWN” were born from the union of the Sons of God and the daughters of men. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The text does not say that the ONLY progeny of the Sons of God and the daughters of men were the famous ones. It highlights a specific group of those born from the unions – the Nephilim; it does NOT say that the Nephilim were the ONLY ones born from those unions. That kind of absolute language is not used in the text.

      Secondly, this line of Cain/ line of Seth stuff misrepresents the key point of the argument I am espousing – the Sons of God ARE KINGS. They aren’t to be identified only with Cain’s line or only with Seth’s line; they are simply kings among humankind at the time. The text does NOT make those kinds of distinctions. It simply refers to the daughters of men, NOT the daughters of Cain or the daughters of Seth. And the text does NOT say that the descendants of the Sons of God/daughters of men unions were the ONLY inhabitants of the earth; in fact, it says that people were already having children before the unions of the Sons of God and daughters of men (Gen. 6:1). Therefore, we can only assume that there were many human beings alive that were NOT Nephilim.

      Again, you need to read the text, and a lot more closely.

      You’re still extrapolating way too much out of these passages. Yes, the Sons of God in Genesis 6 can refer to supernatural beings (particularly the members of the heavenly council, NOT servile messengers); that was a common use of the phrase in the Hebrew Scriptures, and many “early” (early being 3rd century B.C-2nd century A.D. – still centuries after Genesis was composed) interpreters/historians Including Josephus, the early Church Fathers as already stated understood the story as a discussion of sexual relations between supernatural beings and human women. however, the fact is that ancient Near Eastern kings were also referred to as Sons of Gods in their respective languages, and given the early date and provenance of Genesis’ composition, it is just as likely that Sons of God refers to human kings.

      Furthermore, even if “Sons of God” refers to supernatural beings, the fact remains that their progeny are explicitly referred to as “men” (“anashim” in Hebrew). Moreover, to the construct “aneshe” (men) is added hashem (“the name”), and thus the phrase is best translated, “the famous men.” The Nephilim are NOT Sphinxes or mermaids or any half-human, half-whatever mythical figure you can imagine; they are still counted among human beings. And references to six-toed, six fingered giants are from the works of the Chronicler, not from Genesis
      as other Angel/Human hybrid believers commonly state as well and should not be read back into Genesis as a characterizing trait of the Nephilim.

      You need to do more studying in credible sources – real biblical scholars (not the self-proclaimed bible gurus, armed only with their KJVs, Amplified translations, and useless Hebrew dictionaries) have possessed the modicum of knowledge you actually DO exhibit for hundreds of years; the rest of your statements are utter nonsense, reflecting either way too much time watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel or browsing conspiracy websites. Get off the tabloid internet sites and read some books – a good starting place is Dr. John Walton’s Ancient Near Eastern Thought and the Old Testament. I took several courses with the man and can vouch for his brilliance, erudition, and intellectual honesty.

      • Omega Files

        MissouriMotto:
        Proverbs 27:17: “Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.”

        …..I appreciate the time you spent preparing a more persuasive argument, though it would appear as if we are about to take a ride on the carousel of debate – one that may continue on a its perpetual circular course until the Creator Himself puts an end to this carnival. There are a lot of very intelligent men in the world who oppose this theory. Some people, as I suspect you might, overwhelm their senses by focusing on one side of the argument, without keeping an open mind to the possibility of being wrong. Do you think I was born into the teachings of this knowledge? Absolutely not! I didn’t believe in anything like this growing up and my Catholic School education did nothing but shun such concepts. I’ve reached this conclusion independently and without bias through strict clinical analysis. Take a look at this debate, it’s very important and I strongly urge you to read it in its entirety; but it also serves as the perfect example of how a debate can go nowhere because one side will only choose to look at the evidence from the perspective that they have chosen to believe. I highly recommend it to anyone who has questions about whether or not the Mosaic Law of Torah still applies to us today.

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        “Again, you need to read the text, and a lot more closely.”

        …..You can’t get anymore backwards than this. I’ll let the reader decide on which one of us needs to look at the text more closely.

        “You’re still extrapolating way too much out of these passages.”

        ….. I’ve yet to see you extrapolate anything from the Bible. You appear to be making an effort to harmonize pagan literature with the written Word of YHWH Elohim as an attempt to explain away the ‘sons of God’ by way of allegorization. You are gravely underestimating His perfection. The Word can only be translated according to its original interpretation. These modern day prophets of Darwin that you appear to be scraping together your information from will be no match against the Word. Those trapped in Babylon will only grow sleepier and sleepier as the delusion unfolds for its appointed time.

        “ancient Near Eastern kings were also referred to as Sons of Gods in their respective languages, and given the early date and provenance of Genesis’ composition, it is just as likely that Sons of God refers to human kings.”

        ….. Here’s the perfect of example of you trying to harmonize pagan literature with the written Word. What follows will be all twelve instances of the term ‘sons of God’ (Heb: Bənê hāʼĕlōhîm,[1] בני האלהים, Bene Elohim, lit. “Sons of Godly beings/powers ) found in Scripture – not a single one of which is referring to ‘human kings’. ESPECIALLY telling is Job 38:7 — not that the other verses from Job should leave much room for doubt:

        ….. Genesis 6:2: “That the ‘sons of God’ saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose

        ….. Genesis 6:4: “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the’ sons of God’ came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

        ….. Job 1:6: “Now there was a day when the ‘sons of God’ came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.”

        ….. Job 2:1: “Again there was a day when the ‘sons of God’ came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.”

        ….. Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together, and all the ‘sons of God’ shouted for joy?”

        ….. John 1:12: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the ‘sons of God’, even to them that believe on his name:”

        ….. Romans 8:14: “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the ‘sons of God’.”

        ….. Romans 8:19: “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the ‘sons of God’.”

        ….. Philippians 2:15: “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the ‘sons of God’, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;”

        ….. 1 John 3:1 “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the ‘sons of God’: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

        ….. 1 John 3:2: “Beloved, now are we the ‘sons of God’, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

        “Furthermore, even if “Sons of God” refers to supernatural beings, the fact remains that their progeny are explicitly referred to as “men” (“anashim” in Hebrew).”

        ….. Where does it say this? The progeny is explicitly referred to as the NEPHILIM in Genesis 6! YHWH could have used the word ‘men’, but He chose ‘Nephilim’.

        “Moreover, to the construct “aneshe” (men) is added hashem (“the name”), and thus the phrase is best translated, “the famous men.”

        ….. Now here is a perfect example of you not looking at the text closely enough. I’m not sure where you get your translations from but those are wrong. I believe that the word that you are referring to is ‘iysh’ (#0376 אִישׁ ‘iysh {eesh}… http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/0376.html) which is a very vague term that essentially means ‘each’ or ‘whomever’ – as in the might men [gibborum – is a very important word for you to realize] of old who strove for immortality – to be like their fathers. The word ‘children’ was a contemporary edition to the Bible and is not part of the original Word, but even the word ‘children’ wouldn’t dispute the fact that offspring were produced from the copulation between fallen angel fathers and the daughters of men. A more straight forward interpretation of the text would be more like: “Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also after that, when the ‘sons of God’ (angels) had sex with human woman so that they gave birth to mighty men (gibborum) of everlasting infamy (http://chatbible.com/genesis/6.asp#4).

        “You need to do more studying in credible sources – real biblical.”

        ….. I study the most credible source of them all: THE BIBLE. Who are you to assume that my sources aren’t credible? Who are you to assume that I glean my information from Ancient Aliens? This statement right here is the perfect example of what your argument is – an assumption. With very few exceptions, all my sources are directly from the Bible, or from the extra-Biblical texts that support the Word. You haven’t shown me a single credible source. Your only attempt to provide evidence was a failure in which you attempted to use words that are not part of the Text in question. But that doesn’t mean that I want you coming here to plaster everyone else’s findings that support your erroneous beliefs. YOU got yourself in to this discussion so YOU have to find your way out of it. The funny thing is that you can find a credible source for just about any opinion these days at the simple expediency of a Google search. Just because you took a class with a guy does not make you a credible source. Most of my professors were atheists – I never thought that they were very credible.

        ….. Surely, you can understand that YHWH made like animals of different breeds capable of reproducing. For example, horses can propagate with other mammals of the equidae classification (the taxonomic ‘horse family), including donkeys and zebras. It would not have ‘provoked the Lord’ for this type of animal breeding to have taken place, as God Himself made the animals able to do this. If, on the other hand, the Watchers were crossing species boundaries by mixing incompatible animals of one species with the other, such as pig DNA with humans like science is doing today, this would have been a different matter and may cast light on the numerous ancient stories of mythical beings of variant-species manufacturing that fit perfectly within the records of what the Watchers were accomplishing. Understandably, this kind of chimera-making would have ‘provoked the Lord’, and raises the serious question of why the Watchers would have risked eternal damnation by tinkering with God’s creation in this way. God had placed boundaries between the species and strictly ordered that ‘each kind’ reproduce only after its ‘own kind’. Was the motive of the Watchers to break these rules simply the desire to rebel, to assault God’s creative genius through biologically altering what He had made? Or was something of deeper significance behind the activity? Now, I could be wrong, but this would seem to be an area of debate that you are completely unquailed for. You might want to actually do a bit of your own research before spewing out your old professors beliefs.

        ….. If you fail to see that the ‘sons of God’ are in fact the author of the seed which spawned the Men of Renown — then I’m just not sure how you make sense of the entire Old Testament narrative. But more importantly than that, since you have failed to rightly divide the Word of Truth, you will be ill-prepared to face what’s coming.

        • MissouriMotto

          Omega Man I appreciate your time as well, but I’ve got so say are you incorrect on so many
          levels where does one even begin with you?
          I will leave with a small fraction of much more info that I have studied over the last 7 years in Biblical Institutions in the South and East that bought me around ’180 in the other direction as I am very busy and travel on Business frequently.
          I simply don’t have the time…I used to believe what you, and others like you
          believe, it is wrong and a lie….the whole foundation of your argument is way out of whack,
          especially when it comes to those Extra-Biblical writings with only grains of truth mixed with
          lies…Keep in mind YOU endorse these books, I do not.
          I know what you’re going through here because I’ve BEEN THERE, for years.

          It’s powerful and almost addicting…I know the ”feeling”…it’s FUN to talk about Giants, Nephilim,
          Skulls, Rebel Angel headquarters on Planet Mars, etc. Isn’t it? Yes I know all the theories, stories,
          read all the authors, even flown to ”Prophecy In the News” events and
          after a number of years with my head in the sand, arriving at the conclusion, in hindsight, that many (not all) believers of this theory are simply targets of deception via their ignorance of scripture by teachers that knowingly or unknowingly practice some the most vile form of Scripture twisting dispensationalist theories I have ever witnessed in my entire life, and YES,
          I fell for it at first years ago…guilty as charged.

          Omega Man, as far as the Jewish Fairy tales Enoch and Jubilees that you use, JUBILEES IS DEPENDENT ON 1 ENOCH!!! The book of Jubilees CLEARLY shows dependence on 1 Enoch in some very same sections which you are quoting; scholars are agreed upon that fact. Jubilees was written AFTER 1 Enoch, and 1 Enoch was USED IN THE COMPOSITION OF JUBILEES; therefore, we do not have two witnesses; we have ONE. They are not separate texts witnessing to the same event; Jubilees is dependent on 1 Enoch.

          Secondly, you are once again ignoring the VAST gap in time between the composition of GENESIS and the composition of 1 ENOCH and JUBILEES. Genesis was written (1) in a completely different cultural milieu (2) nearly a thousand years before Jubilees or 1 Enoch. The authors of 1 Enoch and Jubilees were NOT in positions to provide accurate information about what Genesis 6 “really means,” especially since, by the time 1 Enoch was composed, knowledge of biblical (classical) Hebrew was dying out. That’s why the Septuagint came into existence (and often mistranslates portions of the Hebrew Scriptures) before 1 Enoch even came out.

          The point is, 1 Enoch and Jubilees are not two independent witnesses to some oral tradition; they are both attempts to INTERPRET Genesis 6, and only ONE of those texts actually witnesses INDEPENDENTLY to that tradition. So yes, both 1 Enoch and Jubilees interpret Genesis 6 as a reference to angelic intercourse; so what???

          Finally, you need to understand that the Jews did not maintain some sort of nice interpretive tradition for thousands of years. By and large, the Jewish people as a whole basically ignored their Scriptures until the 4th century B.C. (the 300′s). It is around that time that you start to find a concern with their cultural heritage, and the interpretation of Scripture spread from a handful of individuals to the populace at large. Consequently, the Jews of 4th-1st centuries A.D. (the Second Temple period) were NOT the most trustworthy guides for the meaning of their Scriptures. Too much had been lost; people had grown deaf to the resonances Genesis was originally meant to provoke. Questions changed; the Jewish people progressed from asking, “why are we, as a people group, suffering” to “why is there suffering in the world at all?” Genesis was read through that lens, and Jewish interpreters (including the author of 1 Enoch) were trying to make sense of Scripture. For the author of 1 Enoch (and many other Second Temple Jews after him), the answer could be found in sinful angels – THEY were the ones who REALLY brought evil into the world; their sins caused all of humanity to go astray.

          The apostle Paul gives a different answer. HUMANITY is the primary cause of evil in the world; Adam invited evil in and doomed everyone to death when he disobeyed the divine command. My point is this – the fundamental question you are actually struggling with (why would God allow people to suffer if he is good) was actually answered by Paul IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO THE ANSWER 1 ENOCH IS MEANT TO PROVIDE. The author of 1 Enoch was just trying to understand Scripture, and offered a poor interpretation; Paul comes and offers the true one.

          Be well.

        • Omega Files

          MissouriMotto:

          Hebrews 11:1: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

          …..It’s been a pleasure, but this will be my last reply. This isn’t my first rodeo. I see what you are trying to do and I’m not interesting in playing into this endless debate of opposing wills. All that you are really doing is running around in circles, trying to discredit the Word with wild accusations that are nothing more than your own blundered assumptions. You have no basis to believe that the ORIGINAL Biblical text wasn’t preserved through the ages by the protective hand of YHWH Elohim. You have no argument that will prove that the scribes copying the various books of the Old and New Testaments did not do so with strict supervision and careful checking by the scribe as well as those working with him to avoid errors – not to mention their supernatural guidance from the Most High. Neither one of us can prove our beliefs with physical evidence; we simply choose to believe what we do based on our Faith in Him. You believe in your institutional education; I believe in the omnipotence of the Most High. You consciously deny historical facts by going out of your way to formulate a scenario that would discredit the Genesis account, ancient philosophers and theologians, extra-Biblical texts, and all the other similar stories that have been found from cultures all across the planet. Are you suggesting that there is no common origin? That these stories are simply the result of some fantastic dose of mass hysteria? As I’ve said before, God puts His Word before His name:

          Psalm 138:2: “I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.”

          You have a very odd affection for the Creator for someone who has spent so much time studying at ‘Biblical Institutions’ – and probably not enough time studying on your own. You don’t seek knowledge and wisdom through formal education; this is done through prayer and supplication. Our time is short and there is a lot of work for me to do. This is a subject that I am highly educated on so there are other areas of my Faith that now need refining. I’ve done the work of accumulating the evidence. Now it’s up for you to review it and decide on whether or not you want to believe. It doesn’t take much of an education to see the decision that you have already made. Hopefully everybody who reads this will do so with an open mind. Ask the Messiah to show you the Truth. The Creator himself has invited us all to examine, search, explore, and reveal His Word. The Messiah knows that those who sincerely do this with a humble heart, and those who do this with their soul intent on truly discovering the Truth; those will indeed discover Him. The Messiah is not afraid of our examination of His Word, nor does He condemn it. In fact, He provided the ultimate platform, through the Bible, to facilitate our examination of Him. The evidence has been presented and it’s not my responsibility to force anyone to believe. I’ve watched and you have been warned (Ezekiel 33:6-7).

          Jeremiah 33:3: “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.”

          Proverbs 25:2: “It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.”

          ”the whole foundation of your argument is way out of whack, especially when it comes to those Extra-Biblical writings with only grains of truth mixed with lies…Keep in mind YOU endorse these books, I do not.”

          ….. The only people that you seem to endorse are your professors. I endorse diligent study of all the available material. We must be able to compare our knowledge to the written Word in order to expand upon the obvious. I never said that these extra-Biblical writings were the Word of YHWH Elohim. I only endorse certain elements from those texts that align with Scripture. The basic message of the apocryphal documents and the various mythologies around the world find corroboration in the Word. Spirit-beings from ‘outer space’ did arrive on Earth, and did produce these unnatural offspring known as the Nephilim.

          “The book of Jubilees CLEARLY shows dependence on 1 Enoch in some very same sections which you are quoting; scholars are agreed upon that fact. Jubilees was written AFTER 1 Enoch, and 1 Enoch was USED IN THE COMPOSITION OF JUBILEES; therefore, we do not have two witnesses; we have ONE. They are not separate texts witnessing to the same event; Jubilees is dependent on 1 Enoch.”

          ….. This shows you are astute in your studies, but this information is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Whether or not one text is dependent upon another has no bearing on the credibility of the evidence presented within. This does not change the written Word. Just because one dictionary defines a few words differently from another, doesn’t mean that you should throw both dictionaries out on the basis of corruption.

          “Secondly, you are once again ignoring the VAST gap in time between the composition of GENESIS and the composition of 1 ENOCH and JUBILEES… The authors of 1 Enoch and Jubilees were NOT in positions to provide accurate information about what Genesis 6 “really means… So yes, both 1 Enoch and Jubilees interpret Genesis 6 as a reference to angelic intercourse; so what???”

          ….. Once again, all I see is a bunch of assumptions about irrelevant information. I’m not going to waste a second of my time arguing with you about when Enoch was written; we both know that there is no conclusive answer for this. I don’t need these extra-Biblical texts to show you what the Bible says. I simply presented a few verses that align with Scripture to help the reader get a better understanding of what was going on during those times.

          “why would God allow people to suffer if he is good”

          ….. The answer is very simple: FREE WILL. God has never and will never force anyone to love Him. Therefore hell and judgment are necessary in order to give people what they truly desire. Those that truly want to be with Messiah will inherit the kingdom of heaven, and those that do not will inherit the judgment of hell. We will not be able to claim ignorance, for we have been exposed to the evidence. We are either for Messiah or against Him; there is no middle ground. The evidence and Truth, being so clear, removes any claim of a middle ground. Therefore, those of us who have experienced the Messiah’s heavenly gift – who have been filled with the Holy Spirit – cannot travel down that old dirt road which leads to some vague intelligent designer. Unfortunately for those who choose to believe a lie, ignorance will not be bliss. All must be willing to understand that blind faith is not our purpose in life – this wasn’t done in a corner.

          Acts 26:26: “For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner.”

    • Chris

      Good post, absolutely true and informative.

      • Omega Files

        Thank you.

        God bless brother.

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