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St. Michael the Archangel: Invoking His Protection Against Satanic Powers

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Christian tradition gives to St. Michael the Archangel four offices:

1.  To fight against Satan.

2.  To rescue the souls of the faithful from the power of the enemy, especially at the hour of death.

3.  To be the champion of God’s people, the Jews in the Old Law, the Christians in the New Testament; therefore he was the patron of the Church, and of the orders of knights during the Middle Ages.

4.  To call away from earth and bring men’s souls to judgment.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10275b.htm

 

 

The Vision of Pope Leo XIII

October 13, 1884

 

“Exactly 33 years to the day prior to the great Miracle of the Sun in Fatima, that is, on October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a remarkable vision.”  The Pontiff had just finished celebrating Mass in his private Vatican Chapel with a handful of Cardinals and staff when he suddenly stopped at the foot of the altar as if in a trance, his face ashen white.  Immediately, he returned to his office and composed the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel.  His instructions were that this prayer was to be said at all Low Masses everywhere.  In explanation for his behavior, Pope Leo XIII said that he heard two voices coming from near the tabernacle.  The conversation was between Satan and Our Lord.  Satan boasted that he could destroy God’s church.  God called his bluff.  Satan said he needed more time and more power.  He needed 75 to 100 years and ”a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.”

 

 

Hold on a minute.  Satan said he needed 75 to 100 years to destroy God’s church.  75 years from 1884 is 1959.  On January 25, 1959,  Pope John XXIII publicly summonded the Second Vatican Council.  One of the first changes to come from Vatican II was the deletion of the Leonine prayers which included the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel.  Care to speculate on the cultural and societal changes that have occurred since the elimination of the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel in 1964?

http://www.stjosephschurch.net/leoxiii.htm

 

 The mini skirt is quite modest nowadays.  The Pill.  Abortion.  War, War, and more War.  The Drug Culture.  No prayer in schools.  Satanism.  See where I’m going with this?  

 

The Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel (long form) is part of my daily prayer regimen.  I pray it right before I sleep.

 

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The music is stirring, isn’t it?  I feel the power of his protection for me and mine in the darkness of our times.

 Guns and ammo are man-made weapons of death in man-made wars.  Spiritual warfare needs ammo of a different sort.  The power of prayer knows no boundaries of time and space.  It is easily carried.  Prayer Warriors are meek and lowly, strong and mighty, little children, and the aged.

What could happen with 1000 prayer warriors?  10,000?  100,000?

Pray with me.  Defend our country from enemies both foreign and domestic.  Defeat Satan and his minions in Heaven and on Earth.

 

 

Pray the Rosary and Defeat Satan

 

Always Dancing to the Tune of Truth,

Blessings!

Miriam

 



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    • becomingme

      Your link does not work.

      • Miriams Musings

        Thank you for letting me know. I will fix it.

        Miriam

        • Anonymous

          WELL DONE SISTER ! YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY ABOUT PRAYER !
          KEEP SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT PRAYER, IT IS OUR BEST WEAPON AGAINST EVIL !
          AMEN I SAY TO YOU AND MAY GOD KEEP YOU AND YOURS SAFE IN THE COMING BATTLES TO BE FOUGHT ! GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL THAT FOLLOW YOUR LEAD ! AMEN !
          Torch ^i^

    • Anonymous

      Mary was Not GOd. She can not save anyone. Only Christ can. Your endless repititions to Venus, The Queen of Heaven- from pagan era- is very disturbing.

      • Anonymous

        you are all correct our Most Blessed Mother Mary is certainly not God !
        But She is the mother of Jesus and in being so deserves the respect of her position in that !
        while all prayers that are asking our God for some kind of intersession or praise should be directed to him directly, there is no harm in asking our lady of Mt Caramel to petition her son on our behalf to help us be better people under God the father ! for isn’t a fact the we love our mothers most dearly and hold them in our highest regard ? as I am sure our lord Jesus does ! and what is prayer anyway ? it’s communicating /Talking about our feelings and our needs or praising the one who created us and gave us all we have ! thank you God for creating and giving us all we have and help and protect us from the evil that is growing all around us and bless the people that are reading this and us all to understand the meaning of life and all you have given us !
        God Bless all of you ! show love to everyone you meet.. repent of your sins.. and pray !
        for time is short..
        Torch ^i^

        • HumanBeing

          We don’t ask questions of the dead.

          Only God can hear our prayers.

          Only God can grant protection.

          If you’re asking Mary to do things only God can do, you are treating her as God, regardless of what you call it. Not even in heaven can humans hear the prayers and requests of millions of people at once; only God can do that.

          To ask Mary to talk to God on your behalf is to make her usurp the place of Jesus as our Intercessor. Because of Jesus’ completed sacrifice, we “come boldly to the throne of grace”; we need no other intercessor. Each believer has the Holy Spirit, who communicates with God because he is God, and we pray only to God. Jesus is the only intercessor.

          So either by assigning divine qualities to Mary or by making her your intercessor, you are elevating her to a place no human belongs, and that is idolatry.

        • Truthseeker

          Anonymous

          If you believe Christ can not lie, then if you will read His words He stated that in the resurrection the Saints do not marry and are not given in marriage –they are like the angels.

          What are the angels like — they are masculine, I have never found one mentioned that is feminine .
          No the angels are not male or female but are masculine in personality and have male names like Michael.

          And what does God call those in the resurrection — HIS SONS, Sons of God.

          If Mary had gone to heaven 2000 years ahead of all of the Saints of God [the First Resurrection is at the time of Christ's 2nd coming and not until then] she would now be a SON of God and the brother to Jesus Christ. She would not longer be His mother.

          Every one that will be resurrected to Spirit will be a brother to Jesus Christ, and will be kings ruling under HIM — search none are ever call QUEENS.

          Your physical mother and father will become your brothers in the resurrection.

          There is no eternal purpose for human bodies made of dust nor for a male and female kind as there will be no more reproduction.

        • JustAComment

          One can only presume some people do not pay attention to the word of God. Quite simply, our Lord Jesus taught us to pray to the Father, directly to God. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ. It has always perplexed me why anybody claiming Christianity would err from the clear teachings of scripture, invent some new means of prayer or who to pray to, etc. As for me, I’d shudder to think of carrying on as a Christian, practicing what is not taught in God’s word, even in opposition to God’s word, or practicing the inventions of men not found in the Holy Bible. Nor do I know why anybody would bother to do anything but what our Lord Jesus taught and commanded in scripture, taught Himself while on earth and led His apostles and prophets, holy men of God, to enshrine in scripture by His Spirit, once and for all. We have a Bible, so that the true faith is laid down and fixed against the error and apostasy of men and devils, who would corrupt the Christian faith by false inventions, which the Bible prophesied and is the case, since the very inception of Christianity. Again, I have no idea why anybody would tinker with or dabble in what is not the clear faith laid down in scripture. This, actually, seems perilous and stupid, disobedient, to veer from the truths as our Lord clearly taught.

        • Mirabolin

          @Truthseeker

          Gender terms like son are just used to indicate a neutral gender without a son and daughter split.

          As it is until death we do part in marriage because in a regardless of gender on earth sense in heaven everyone is to be married to Christ I don’t think that you should think of the sons as being married to Christ.

        • Mirabolin

          @Truthseeker

          Hah! I’ve just been struck with the thought that that could be why Adam was thrown out of the Garden of Eden. He slept with GODS paridisical ‘wife’. Adam’s now unparidisical wife.

        • Mirabolin

          @Truthseeker

          Hah! I’ve just been struck with the thought that that could be why Adam was thrown out of the Garden of Eden. He slept with GODS paridisical ‘wife’. As sex weddings can only be annulled if no consummation occurs she was now Adam’s now unparidisical wife. Adam was no longer wedded to God

        • Mayhem

          @Anonymous: who said…

          “[Mary] is the mother of Jesus and in being so deserves the respect of her position in that”

          … how about instead of giving Mary the respect that YOU think she deserves we look to Messiah’s example? How were Mary and Joseph received at the sermon on the mount and is that what you call respect?

          This is what my King said: Matthew 12:46,50

    • Boxed in Freight

      I have news of the utmost importance for you.

      Jesus is God.

      Jesus came to the Earth and took all of Mankind’s sins upon Himself and then rose again three days later.

      Jesus is the only doorway into Heaven.

      None of God’s Holy Angels would ever usurp what the Son of God has done and take His place as Redeemer or Protector of the Saints.

      The only angel that would is the liar, the angel that appears as light, but is in fact Satan, the evil one, also known as the Devil.

      If you want protection, pray to Jesus, the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, not angels.

      • JustAComment

        Absolutely, and, again, our Lord Jesus taught us to pray to God the Father, other scripture to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to bring our cares and worship to the very throne of God, directly. And, as you mention, to pray to Jesus no difference, as our Lord and God are one,

        John 14:13-14 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

        For goodness sake, we have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us: what’s this need to go outside, as if down the block, and consult some angel? Or Mary? Or some dead saint? Isn’t that sort of “like duh…”? What part of Jesus Christ being our only intercessor is hard to grasp? This is even the entire meaning of the veil to the Holy of Holies in the temple being supernaturally torn (Mark 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom), top to bottom mind you, at the death of our Lord Jesus on the cross, showing that now, through the good work, the love and sacrifice, of our Lord Jesus, we now have direct access to God who have faith in Him, and even the sinner who calls upon Him for salvation. When God in the flesh taught us the “Lord’s Prayer,” it’s beyond me what Christian would pray to any but God, would even want to be at odds with anything God taught us. It’s senseless, just the deception and the corruption of men, what’s mysterious how these things have any mileage, when they fly in the face of the very word of God.

      • JustAComment

        In addition, anybody praying to a whole population of creatures, rather than our Creator God, it seems anybody but God, would you please give me one scrap of evidence any angel is omnipresent to hear peoples’ prayers? One scrap of evidence Mary or some dead saint of the Roman “church” is omnipresent or even in a position to hear anything coming from mortals on earth? One scrap of evidence any but God can even be omnipresent and pervade the earth? What creature has ever had that same power? Even more mysterious is all this tradition claptrap apparently doesn’t even have to make any sense to get people to praying to, may as well be, a doorknob.

    • vimy15

      you want us to pray to the virgin instead of having a personal relationship with our Father who is in heaven through Jesus Christ ? The Catholic church is an evil institution and a tool of murder by the devil himself. Please look at the church’s hand into genocide in Canada. Sick and twisted theology that violates scriptural truths. So stop being deceived and deceiving. And yes, perhaps we can all have angels intervene for us, but not without going through the CROSS !!!!

    • Michael

      It makes NO difference whether you call the idol you worship “Jesus”, “YHWH”, “Mary”, “Michael the Archangel”, or “Allah”.

      THAT is the sin for which this civilization will be punished: the idolatrous worship of the ‘god of the dead’ because of your DOCTRINAL belief in the Egyptian ‘god of the dead’ doctrine of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave…

      When it was taught by Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed as a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’.

      Oh, by the way, while SATANIST Chief Rabbi David Lau publicly worships the god of human sacrifice, even the anti-Zionist PHARISEES of the Neturei Karta pray to ‘Michael the Archangel’.

      There will be NO protection for IDOLATORS.

      (Oh, by the way, the Michael mentioned in Chapter 12, verse 1 of the Book of Daniel is NOT any ‘Michael the Archangel’ because the Hebrew verb root used there is the same as the Hebrew verb root used in Chapter 26, verse 19 of the Book of Isaiah’s cryptic and figurative description of the revelation of the memories of previous lives).

      Michael (interestingly enough)

      • Mirabolin

        I realise that you will not be able to remember your revelation of The Doctrine of Rebirth and are just sure that it must have happened and must have been awesome when it did but go on, give it a whirl descriptively anyway.

        • Michael

          There is NO Revelation of the *Doctrine* of ‘Rebirth’.

          Just like you have no *doctrine* about what you had for supper last night.

          (or was last night’s supper eaten by a DEMON that possessed you? PROVE that it WASN’T.)

          It is the Revelation of particular and very sharply defined *Memories*:

          The Memory of Creation (already described in Chapter 2, verse 7 of Genesis–any other information is the subject matter of an oral Teaching) and the Revelation of the Memory of ‘the Fall’ (it is an actual experience of the sharp discontinuity of consciousness between the consciousness of Creation and the consciousness of the “self”–ditto).

          Michael

        • Mirabolin

          The real sign that you’re mad isn’t all this self stuff it’s this Chapter X, verse Y stuff.

          You’re typing voices.

      • Mirabolin

        Egyptians didn’t believe in raising a dead body from the grave. They believed that part of a persons soul resided in their physical body and part in heaven and that they had to preserve the body of the dead so that their sould could persist in heaven. They did this by mummifying their dead in strips of linen. This is what the Jews did too. Including Jesus.

        John 19:14

        39 Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds weight.

        40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews.

        41 Now in the place where He was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid.…

        I guess that’s that book out too.

        • Mirabolin

          The reason why they chose myrrh was that after it was poured over the mummy like honey it would then harden like amber so was a good way to preserve the body.

        • Mirabolin

          That body was never getting up.

          Luke 23:43

          “‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ Jesus answered him, ‘I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise’”

        • Michael

          Good job.

          I was waiting for someone to mention this.

          But it makes no difference.

          The rabbis, in fact, MODIFIED the Egyptian doctrine of “resurrection” from what it was to the doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body. Call it rabbinical ‘cleverness’ or something. But it amounts to nothing more than hammering more gold onto the face of an idol.

          The issue is the preservation of that metaphysical ‘soul’ in “heaven”.

          That metaphysical ‘heaven’ is the kingdom of the god of the dead. One gains entrance of the metaphysical ‘soul’ into ‘heaven’ through death. And that god has power in the realm that occurs after death. Pharaoh prayed that the god of the dead send the ‘soul’ of his son back into his body because that god is said to have power to control those metaphysical ‘souls’–just like in Christian theology.

          NONE of that is in the Revelations themselves. The Torah talks about a “living soul”. The consciousness or ‘soul’ of man exists in a living person. There is no ‘after-death’ soul in the Revelations.

          In any case, the unique aspect of Revelation is that you can read the same passage in the Scriptures dozens of times and never understand what it means. Then, you set the Scriptures aside for many, many years; ignoring them as being in the category of something that can NEVER be demonstrated in reality…

          And then you receive a Revelation; after which you turn again to the Scriptures and INSTANTLY it becomes clear what is being talked about.

          Why?

          It comes under the category called “recognition”: NOW I know the meaning of the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees; whereas, before the receiving of the memory of just that one previous life, I had NO idea at all what it meant.

          So, it may be argued that a Christian theologian would have to receive a memory of a previous life before recognizing what Jesus was talking about; even despite my best efforts at explaining that Revelation.

          That is something over which I have no control.

          Michael

        • Mirabolin

          @Michael

          Regardless of what the pharisees might and might not have done Jesus did say to the thief “today you will be with me in paradise’”. I take it that you are reading that as attaining Nirvana
          then?

          “So, it may be argued that a Christian theologian would have to receive a memory of a previous life”

          Which can’t be his own? I don’t get what has undergone re-birth? It seems that you have just attached a meaning to that because it turns up as a theme in the bible (baptism for example). I understand what is supposed to have happened to a living person who has been reborn and a dead person who reincarnates. Where is the rebirth in a real or false memory?
          Technically you could use any ritual to signify a baptismic or born again types of rebirth

    • THE TRUTH

      No idolatry.

      “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

    • LAYNALAND

      the bible does not tell us to pray with a rosary…and the only way to defeat satan, is through prayer, the blood and of course – a spirit-filled life in Christ.

      L. :idea:

    • billR

      Jesus died and rose from the dead so we could go to HIM directly without an intermediary. Salvation is through Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. GOD wants us to have a personal relationship with him not a distant one which requires going through someone else. i.e. The Pope or Mary. I believe that Mary would not have brought attention to herself as a object of worship. She was chosen by GOD to bear Jesus because “she found favor with GOD” which means she was humble. Humble people don’t go around seeking to be worshipped, do they? I think Mary would be mortified if she saw what the Catholic Church Has become. (Just an observation based on sex scandal after sex scandal.

    • jjslash

      Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

      18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

      God always has us protected, we just have to believe read about Elijah.

    • Truthseeker

      miriams

      What is a Saint, a repentant person that has been baptized and by the laying on of hands received the Holy Spirit of God the Father.

      Angels are not human — angels are not Saints —-angels are spirits

      Michael is an Archangel not a Saint,

      Angels were created only for the purpose of looking after those in the salvation process.

      So the popes have changed what angels are — as they have all things of God?? WOW

      Miriams you are getting your beliefs from the writings of popes and not the Word of God.

      • Mirabolin

        Sheesh!

        And you are getting your literal word of God from a word whose truthful meaning you don’t know Truthseeker

        Saint comes from the latin Sanctus and mean holy, consecrated. A saintly person or being is one of extraordinary holiness as opposed to not.

        • Truthseeker

          mirabolin

          Yes but it applies to converted humans and not angels —and Holiness is Holiness, I read nothing that says it has levels of extraordinary, or ordinary or what ever.

          And I care nothing for Latin.

          AND I get my understand from my Father, not from a man or a huge bureaucracy of fellows that like little boys.

          I seek THE TRUTH and the truth comes not from any man, it comes from above. I am aware that the WAY I follow is contrary to 99.99% of those on BIN.

        • mikesavage

          Mirabolin;
          You are right about saints. The Catholic Church however, is wrong about saints. No one dead can be made a saint.

      • mikesavage

        Angels were created to minister to God Almighty, and as messengers. Angels were not created for the purpose of looking after those in the salvation process. That’s absurd. When angels were created, no one needed salvation. They are God’s army, His ministers, His messengers, His worshipers.

    • mikesavage

      “Saint” Michael? In his prehuman form, Jesus is Michael the Archangel. Not a saint. Pray the rosary? It is a pagan idol used in worship. God said to get away from all things pagan. Statues of Jesus Earthly mother Mary? More graven images we are warned to stay away from. To not touch. Babylon the Great the world empire of false religion again. Please stop teaching people these lies. Satan doesn’t need your help in misleading the entire inhabited Earth.

      • Truthseeker

        mikesavage

        you are saying Jesus Christ is Micheal the Archangel??? Jesus Christ as the WORD created Michael.

        All thing created were created by Christ and for Christ, that eliminates Christ as being created — He can not created Himself.

        • mikesavage

          Well, he was created. He was God Almighty’s first creation, through whom all other things were created. Ever hear the phrase “only begotten son”? Jesus is not God Almighty. And yes, Jesus was always called Michael the Archangel prior to his birth as a human on Earth. Jesus did not create Michael. You are misunderstanding some scripture here.

        • Truthseeker

          Mike

          Christ is the First of the First fruits, He was the first of the first fruits to be given the Holy Spirit which is the Holy Seed of God the Father thus becoming a spiritual fetus and was Born Again when raised from the dead. Christ is the first born Son of God.

          Read Joel 3 on the Feast of Pentecost when the Disciples were come together to keep that Feast God the Father poured out from heaven HIS HOLY SPIRIT on all 120, they then became the first fruits.

        • mikesavage

          Truthseeker;
          They became the first of the 144,000 annointed sons of God. The little flock, who were and are being taught and followed by the great flock. The great flock are those who adhere to the scriptures. All of the scriptures, as they were written. They are the ones who will survive Armageddon. The only ones on Earth to do so. They are no part of any religion or government, and are living as aliens among the world. They are no part of the world, as Jesus taught the little flock to be.

        • Truthseeker

          Mikesavage,

          the 144,000 come out of the Great Tribulation, they do not exist day, they are alive but are not yet the spiritual virgins as they have not yet rejected worshiping the Beast and the False Prophet.
          They are spiritual virgins as they do not spiritual fornicate with the catholic church.

          The 5 Seal of Revelation is the Great Tribulation and that time begins when the abomination of desolation occurs.

          And I am sure you consider all 12 tribes to be Jews, Read the Word of God, He divided the 12 after the time of Solomon into the House of Israel [10 tribes] and the House of Judah [2 tribes].

          The tribe of Judah are the Jews, Jew is a slang term it is short for JU — DAH –JU

          mike, I am moving on, when the 4 Seal begins which is world war three you will begin to doubt the teachings of the witnesses. But not until then.

        • mikesavage

          Truthseeker;
          It appears that you don’t know the truth, at least not about the 144,000. There remain a remnant on Earth of about 6000 or so of the anointed sons of God. In fact, the Revelation tells of them working with Jesus in waging the final battle. They have not yet rejected the Beast? Are you insane? Since the first of their number, the Disciples of Christ, they have fought against Satan’s efforts. They have never accepted the Beast. The Beast being the Whore of Babylon, the world empire of false religion. The Israel spoken of in Revelation is spiritual Jerusalem, not physical. The 12 tribes spoken of refer in Revelation to all mankind, who in one way or another descended from the physical 12 tribes. Get your facts straight. Your moniker Truthseeker is misleading. You’re not seeking or repeating truth at all.

        • mikesavage

          Truthseeker;
          You say “my witnesses”. No, God’s witnesses.

          Young’s Literal Translation:
          Isaiah 43:10
          Ye [are] My witnesses, an affirmation of Jehovah, And My servant whom I have chosen, So that ye know and give credence to Me, And understand that I [am] He, Before Me there was no God formed, And after Me there is none.

        • JustAComment

          “Well, he was created. He was God Almighty’s first creation, through whom all other things were created. Ever hear the phrase “only begotten son”? Jesus is not God Almighty. And yes, Jesus was always called Michael the Archangel prior to his birth as a human on Earth. Jesus did not create Michael. You are misunderstanding some scripture here.”

          Who is misunderstanding? This whole paragraph you wrote is lala land, a denial of Jesus Christ’s deity, His existence in eternity and being the very Creator, who become very God incarnate as a man. You are so very far from simple truths of the faith, so very clearly spelled out it scripture, that it’s laughable irony you’d accuse anybody else of misunderstanding, as you, clearly, have no understanding even who Jesus Christ is. This is pathetic.

        • JustAComment

          Mr. Savage, you’re of a cult, a JW, drunk on cult error, we get it. Do you possibly believe at some point people may tire of hearing your error, this repeated, evil diminution of the Lord Jesus? Maybe you’d do better to go to the Kingdom Hall and study your bastardized NWT Bible with other deluded deceivers, and I know I’ve ceased to read you. You don’t believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible, in our God, and you’re really no better than a ranting atheist, worthy of all rebuke.

        • mikesavage

          Justacomment;
          You are claiming that Jesus created a cult?

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Stop being obtuse, Savage.

          Charles Taze Russell is responsible for that particular crime.

          As well you know.

        • mikesavage

          JustAComment

          Mr. Savage, you’re of a cult, a JW, drunk on cult error, we get it.

          That would mean that Jesus started a cult. Nothing I’ve ever posted was anything but the exact truth. Ever consider that you are incorrect? I thought not. You think you’re the only one that could POSSIBLY know the truth, because you are special or something. Quite the contrary is the truth with you. You know nothing about the scriptures that weren’t given you by man made religion. The Witnesses organization is the continuing original Christian congregation created 2000 years ago. That would make it the longest lasting cult ever, and one, as you claim, was created by Jesus. Wow!

          Do you possibly believe at some point people may tire of hearing your error, this repeated, evil diminution of the Lord Jesus?

          Evil dimunition of Jesus? You are quite insane apparently. You must be imagining all of what you claimed with that statement. You’re not doing drugs or drinking are you?

          Maybe you’d do better to go to the Kingdom Hall and study your bastardized NWT Bible with other deluded deceivers, and I know I’ve ceased to read you.

          Most academic reviews I’ve read about the Witnesses translation give it all thumbs up for accuracy and for the closest to the original texts over all other translations.

          You don’t believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible, in our God, and you’re really no better than a ranting atheist, worthy of all rebuke.

          Why would you say I don’t believe in Jesus? That’s just retarded on your part. Every prayer I utter is made in Jesus’ name. He is the mediator between us and his Father, God Almighty.

        • mikesavage

          JustAComment
          You are one of the most non-Christians posting on this blog. Your behavior proves that fact, as do your statements. You haven’t a clue as to how God wants us to behave, or how Jesus taught us to behave. We are admonished to imitate Jesus in all respects, but you do the complete opposite. Your take on the scriptures comes from Satan, not from God or the scriptures. You behave as one who is under direct control from Satan. Are you demon posessed? Or are you just a crappy person? Which is it, because it’s one or the other.

        • mikesavage

          Beef;
          Not being obtuse. Being truthful. Russell started a society of Bible students, registered as such, and they later changed their legal entity name to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Still the same original Christian Congregation that began on Nisan 14, 33 A.D.

        • HumanBeing

          “You are one of the most non-Christians posting on this blog. Your behavior proves that fact, as do your statements. … You behave as one who is under direct control from Satan. Are you demon posessed? Or are you just a crappy person? ”

          Hypocrite. Pharisee. Your double standard is glaringly obvious.

          “Not being obtuse”

          Yes, you are.

          You’re also never going to own up to falsely accusing me, so that makes you a coward and liar as well. So pointing your fingers at others is something we can only shake our heads about and pity you.

        • mikesavage

          HumanBeing

          “You are one of the most non-Christians posting on this blog. Your behavior proves that fact, as do your statements. … You behave as one who is under direct control from Satan. Are you demon posessed? Or are you just a crappy person? ”

          Hypocrite. Pharisee. Your double standard is glaringly obvious.

          No double standard here HB. Not a hypocrite as are you, and certainly not Jewish, so I couldn’t be a Pharisee you moron.

          “Not being obtuse”

          Yes, you are.

          No, I am not being obtuse, you are being the opposite of what Jesus taught us to be. Simply because I do not subscribe to your incorrect beliefs you call me names. That makes you the hypocrite. Who are you that your beliefs are to be believed? Do you fancy yourself the messiah?

          You’re also never going to own up to falsely accusing me, so that makes you a coward and liar as well. So pointing your fingers at others is something we can only shake our heads about and pity you.

          I haven’t ever accused you of anything. I’ve only stated facts and made observations on your behavior. That is not making accusations. Not pointing fingers, as that’s impossible on a blog site. You simply cannot understand the kind of coward you are. Too scared to do some looking into scripture and studying them to find out if you are wrong or right. Too scared that maybe you are wrong. I assure you, you are. If you had an honest heart, you would certainly check to see if your beliefs are those that God wants you to have. It is apparent you don’t care what God thinks of you. In fact, I don’t either. You are one of those who will die in the coming judgement of the final battle. Shame though. You could actually straighten out your thinking and correct that problem, but I am confident that you are way too much of a coward, and way too haughty to ever do such a thing. That too is a shame.

        • mikesavage

          HumanBeing

          Incidentally, I would have to make statements that are not scriptural to even be considered in comparison to the Pharisees of the Bible. Every statement I’ve made here is absolutely correct with respect to the scriptures. Each and every one. It is you who make statements that are not in line with the Bible and God’s requirements and principles. It is you who teach false things that you repeat having heard them from your born again religion. Your man made religion. Your religion that teaches the doctrines of men and not of God. Your religion that teaches what Satan wants you to teach, and not the truth. Ranting and raving and name calling cannot change that. It can only reinforce the fact that you are a phony, and teach falsehoods and serve not God but Satan. Your immature behavior only makes it worse. But I don’t suppose that would ever stop you. It didn’t stop the Pharisees. It didn’t stop any of the opposers of Jesus who killed him. You are exactly like them in every way.

        • HumanBeing

          Savage, there is no reasoning with you. You flatly refuse to admit fault or listen to what anyone else is saying. Your theology is twisted beyond repair, but your main problem is your attitude of condescension toward pretty much everyone. So don’t wonder why people will start just ignoring you.

        • mikesavage

          HB;
          Are you aware of what you write when you write it? condescension? Every word you spew is dripping with condescension. I couldn’t care less if you apostates ignore me. I put forth truth and insight on scriptures and if you choose to ignore it, it’s your loss and your fault. If you want to be immature and condescending, that’s your business, and God’s. The consequences of your actions are yours to bear though. The judgement from God is yours to bear also. Truth isn’t something you all aspire to. You seem to only aspire to having your little clique ogle your silly comments that bear no resemblance to the truth. Being part of man made religion is a sin and for that you must answer to God. Behaving as you do is also a sin and you must answer for that also. And you will. Whatever God promised, He always delivers. Always. He isn’t partial, like you all are. You are partial to Satan’s misleadings. There are but the two choices: God or Satan. You have chosen the latter. So be it. My conscience is clean and there is no blood on my hands. The same cannot be said for you and those like you. Bloodguilt is your burden to bear.

        • HumanBeing

          Savage thinks he’s God, that he can judge my spirit and consign me to perdition, all because I call him out fearlessly. I’m so glad that it is the one true God, not this Savage beast, whom I will face one day to give an account. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes!

        • mikesavage

          HB;
          You have all the maturity of a poorly raised 15 year old.

        • HumanBeing

          Savage:

          When will you realize that your pathetic assessments of my character are completely irrelevant?

        • mikesavage

          HB;
          They are not assessments of your character. They are observations and facts. It’s your business if you want to be counted in the company of those that killed the Christ and the Pharisees who changed the commands of God to match the commands of men. It’s your business if you want to act as an immature 15 year old. It’s your business if you want to be an example of total lack of humility, when the scriptures teach us to be humble, to love God, and your fellow man. I do not care how you behave. You, however, should. I believe that those close to you probably care as well. I can only shake my head in dismay upon seeing people act as you do. I can only have sadness at seeing yet another in opposition to God Almighty and His teachings, knowing the destruction in your future.

        • HumanBeing

          Savage:

          I will GLADLY and SINCERELY be counted among those who are opposed to the likes of you. The more you rant and accuse, the easier it is for rational, spiritual people to see through you. Keep digging.

        • mikesavage

          HB;
          You certainly are counted among the mislead, the false teachers, and the enemies of God Almighty. Your opposition to those who teach accurately the scriptures and the truth of the message of God certainly does make you His enemy. He is impartial and will destroy you just as He will destroy all the others spouting similar things as you are. Pity you cannot be drawn to God and have Him use His Holy Spirit to teach you the truth, rather than the lies you have been taught and repeat so readily. It’s also a pity you can’t learn for yourself, rather than have others do it for you. That is laziness and dishonesty. Claiming to be a believer in God, and not honoring His commands is hypocrisy at it’s finest. He instructed us to take in ACCURATE knowledge daily of Him and His Word and you flat refuse to do either. You really should reconsider. You’ve spent your very short lifetime being taught falsehoods that you defend at all costs. That I don’t understand. You have no way of knowing what you have been taught is true or not because you will not research and study the issues on your own. Also extremely lazy and dishonest. If you ever had done so, you would know that your behavior is totally against God’s teachings. You behave in total opposition to His standards for behavior toward others, and in His standards for us all.

      • Freewilloffering

        You misunderstand …we are not to “Worship graven images” that does not mean that we can’t have religious art. Want some proof? Christ , the incarnation of God was an image on earth of something heavenly and so was the burning bush. The Ancient Hebrews were instructed by God to build a tabernacle that was adorned with Seraphim ad Cherubin. You need to think through this ….

        • Truthseeker

          freewilloffering

          I have catholic relatives and friends, they worship before the”ART” they worship before the plaster and marble statues of a supposed mary and a christ and even apostles and saints.

          They pray to them, they light candles, they repeat vain repetitions to them they ask for miracles from the “ART” . They wear chains around their necks of saints —— the put statues on their lawns?????
          and in special places in their homes

          All of the above is SIN — you can justify it to your hearts content — but it is SIN! and an abomination to God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.

        • mikesavage

          Truthseeker;
          You are correct about the art. They do worship it. They pray to saints who don’t exist. They pray to Jesus’ Earthly mother, and God said to pray to no one but Him. Yes, Catholics do sin with almost every breath. It is an abomination to God. Satan has been busy in his work at misleading the entire inhabited Earth.

    • betru2yrfaith

      Thank you for posting this Mariam. I can’t believe the ignorance of so many Protestants. They say they read scripture but only the parts that fit their ideology. They so hate the Catholic Church that they are blinded to God’s word. The Bible says that all generations will call Mary blessed. Not once have I ever heard a Protestant call Mary blessed. It shows the hypocrisy of so many. The bible also says what will be losed in Heaven will be losed on earth and what will be bound in Heaven will be bound on earth. The church has the power to lose and bind so given to her by our Lord himself. The 4th Commandment says that we must honor our father and mother so wouldn’t it stand to reason that our Lord would want us to honor his mother as he did? After all she did raise him and took care of him. These Protestants who build statues of their heroes such as Albert Pike and George Washington etc. condemn Catholics for venerating the saints and our Lord’s mother who are role models.

      • Miriams Musings

        betrutogod,

        Thank you for your support. I believe that we all find our way to God. The spiritual journey is a very individual one. I have experienced wonderful graces from praying the rosary. Many Protestants don’t realize their contentiousness as they are taught to be repelled by the Catholic faith; after all, that is the reason for the existence of their faith system in the first place!

        Miriam

        • vimy15

          miriam .. you are deceived and are sick in the head. The devil has authority over the 2nd and 3rd heaven… This was granted to him when he rebelled. How can you be sure the Devil himself doen’t throw you a bone every now and again just to keep you where he has you ? Remember, all Satanists agree they follow the Dark Lord because he fulfills they’re wishes, while God does not. We should remember that we are God’s servant and not the other way around. So you support molestation of children ? You support financial crimes? You support the Jesuits who have blood on their hands? You support a political and religious system that denies scripture? You support a vein repetitive prayer thinking the virgin brings you closer to the Father ? Jesus was clear about how to pray. The old testament was even clearer. So go ahead Miriam, defend the Holy Roman Church … you are lost, and while you might have good intentions remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions .. so get off the crack pipe and wise up … you are lost !

    • Louis

      St. Michael is a saint because, unlike Lucifer, he passed the three tests and, by proving his loyalty to God, became sanctified with grace and was thereby elevated to perpetual sainthood.

      Since angels are spirits, their pursuit of sainthood differs from the human struggle for holiness. The angelic pursuit of holiness is purely intellectual. Once an angel makes a decision, the decision is permanent. It cannot be reconsidered.

      St. Michael — whose name means “Who is like unto God?” — became a saint for loving God’s plan to create a soul more pure and beautiful than that of any other creature — either angelic or human.

      That pure soul would be granted to St. Mary, the future Mother of God the Father’s Divine Son, Jesus Christ.

      St. Mary now reigns in heaven as its queen. Where else could the Mother of God be? The Church’s teachings about St. Mary are perfectly logical and appropriate.

      St. Mary is honored, not worshiped. To say Catholics worship St. Mary is not true.

      Lucifer damned himself forever by jealously hating the idea of a soul more pure and radiant than his. Lucifer hates St. Mary, and humans who likewise hate St. Mary have joined themselves with Lucifer.

      Insulting St. Mary — the ineffably beautiful and pure Mother of God — is the stupidest thing anyone can do. Anyone who says “We love you, Jesus, but we hate your mother” is unfit for heaven where St. Mary reigns by merit of her purity.

      It is God’s delight to grant every wish of St. Mary’s pure and gentle heart.

      • Truthseeker

        Louis

        you are quoting the words of the popes and those the popes have crowned as saints which I reject in total and completely.

        I accept the Law and the Prophets [Old Testament], I of course accept the words of Jesus Christ and of His Apostles, all the rest just the words of men and demons.

        If you can not use Scripture please do not bother.

      • mikesavage

        Sorry, but no man can elevate anyone to sainthood. No church can do it. No one is “elevated” to sainthood under any circumstances. Elevating a dead person to holiness postmortem is a rediculous theory. It’s certainly not scriptural.

        • Mirabolin

          To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

          But Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, rhow much evil he has done to your saints at Jerusalem.

          Now has Peter went here and there among them all, he came down also to the saints who lived at Lydda.

          ————-

          I don’t know about St. Michael though but from context, as he is the leader of the angels, it just seems to be / or to have later come to be understood as equivalent to leader. Like Role Model Michael who must be deferred to most as first of all the angels etc.

          And I’m sure that people to ‘pray’ (or meditate religiously / to to touch) to their deceased relatives at graves and so on. They probably just thought that as long as their are not TOO MANY rituals going on when doing that that this use of sainthood was something so innate that it should be incorporated in some way. I don’t see the big deal.

          “to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for rbuilding up sthe body of Christ”

          What is this body of Christ that this refers to? Isn’t this an idolotry?

        • mikesavage

          Saint means holy. When they were alive they were called saints in some translations, correctly. When they are dead, they cannot be made saints. Are you saying that a man can direct events in heaven? You must want to be God’s enemy, because that is what it makes you to teach such absurd things.

        • Mirabolin

          You might as well wonder how a man can be made a saint when alive (must have been the medium of a miracle) as wonder how he can be made one when dead if it NOT sainthood apprehended by mankind (as it was in the Bible).

          As for what they do in heaven … they are part of the body of Christ. It is perfectly normal for other Christians to ask other Christian to pray (to God) on their behalf. With the act of prayer and the belief in it’s efficacy is entailed praying to the saints and angels of heaven. You can’t have the first without the second.

          To think that you should only pray for yourself and let God worry about everyone else is just so bizarre an interpretation of loving God it just shows you how trule sick statist individualist religions are. Will God look kindly on the sacrifice that he is still undergoing on behalf of the church (the body of Christ’s sacrifice) being understood by you as no business of yours beyond your personal (defined how?) benefit. “Well he’s hardly undergoing it for them too is he?!”

        • Mirabolin

          As to why it was a thousand years since the time of Christ before a new saint was created? Because the church had considered that it had somewhere along the line gone astray, because like many people in this thread they too were worried it might be an idolotry of some kind, as they were very conservative (even in the ways they increasingly thought they had gone wrong)?

        • Mirabolin

          “As for what they do in heaven … they are part of the body of Christ. It is perfectly normal for other Christians to ask other Christian to pray (to God) on their behalf. ”

          So the distinction is between asking and praying. If it is demonic for a person, to speak, or emote, to a dead role model in the privacy of prayer or habit then there would be an issue. I think it is a fuzzy area. They don’t want voices as that would be madness and so on but abstract memories – like Michael? Weegie board? Load of nonsense that you might scare yourself with or hurt others with such callowness! Mumbling to dead relative? Okay for a while after which … if you need more than internalizing it and have to speak then keep it secret and don’t tell anyone or they will think you are crazy.

    • HumanBeing

      Re. the nature and identity of Jesus as opposed to the angel Michael, I simply present most of the first chapter of Hebrews:

      ———————————————————–

      5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,

      “You are my Son;
      today I have become your Father”?

      Or again,

      “I will be his Father,
      and he will be my Son”?

      6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,

      “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

      7 In speaking of the angels he says,

      “He makes his angels spirits,
      and his servants flames of fire.”

      8 But about the Son he says,

      “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
      a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
      9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
      therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
      by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

      10 He also says,

      “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
      and the heavens are the work of your hands.
      11 They will perish, but you remain;
      they will all wear out like a garment.
      12 You will roll them up like a robe;
      like a garment they will be changed.
      But you remain the same,
      and your years will never end.”

      13 To which of the angels did God ever say,

      “Sit at my right hand
      until I make your enemies
      a footstool for your feet”?

      14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

      • mikesavage

        Archangel means head of the angels. Not angel.

        • HumanBeing

          Angel mean angel (lit. “messenger”). It is a rank of angelic being. So no, Jesus is not the archangel. The Greek literally means “ruling messenger”, which is still a type of angel, which Jesus never was.

      • mikesavage

        No. Sometimes they are used for that, but rarely. It is God using His Holy Spirit to help the annointed little flock, and the great flock in the bringing God’s message to the entire Earth.

    • Radical Rose

      Lovely article!

    • Wretched Infidel

      You should not ‘invoke’ any spirits other than pray to IAUE, according to the bible.

      Anything else is wrong.

      You want protection, then you ask IAUE for giving it to you, … He gives it to you via his angels.

      But the command comes from Him, it should not be you ordering around or even asking angels to do that.

      Get it straight, this is calling upon other mighty ones and this is unscriptural to do, forbidden.

      • mikesavage

        IAUE? Are you drunk?

        • Mirabolin

          I know! I asked him yesterday if he was ‘alright’? BLETCHYUA be praised he is still with us though! Just mad.

        • JustAComment

          Far as I can tell, he’s saying we need to pray to Ignatius Ajuru University of Education or maybe this river in Brazil. Then again, it could be the latest flavor of the Tetragrammaton, such things usually developed by cults in desperate need of some exclusive, where everybody’s going to hell who doesn’t join them and refer to God only by the “true name” they derived from their secret decoder ring or perhaps a vision involving Scrabble pieces. Only on the web…

    • Wretched Infidel

      “St Michael became a saint because… he passed 3 tests…” OM… what heresy you Catholics live in.

      As if human beings (under the angels, lower than they) could ever ‘make’ an angel of IAUE ‘something more’ for passing some ‘tests’ that humans gave them!!?? Omword, you are all so arrogant.

      Just kill yourselves now… or refute your church once and for all for you learn nothing but sh!t from those perverted fathers.

      • Louis

        I despise guys who criticize other guys whose enterprise makes them rise above the guys who criticize.

        In other words, you’re just jealous of your betters. You could learn from them, but you apparently prefer to wallow in ignorance and vindictiveness — which makes you less than a gentleman.

    • Miriams Musings

      Louis,

      It is good to see a fellow believer in the comments section! Thank you for being here and adding so much depth to the discussion. Your logic is flawless.

      Blessings!

      Miriam

      • RikiRibi

        Feast Day of Saint Michael

        Saint Michael, my Hero
        stay at my side
        reduce satan to zero
        the one puffed up with pride

        Fight with me, Saint Michael,
        guide me in the Spiritual Battle
        help me in this reprisal cycle
        to silence the viper’s rattle

        Satan is a murderer and a thief
        he steals away God’s Creation
        he leads man to erroneous belief
        he is vicious, a vile abomination

        Saint Michael, “Who is as God” !
        let your battle-cry be heard
        using your sword as a prod
        you disperse all of satan’s herd

        Safely protected under your wings
        we will defy his spiritual plunder
        we will escape his poisonous stings
        YOU,cast him forever,deep down under

        Saint Michael Pray For Us
        Rita Biesemans, 5-8-2013

    • Truthseeker

      Do you catholics not understand you are making your own gods? You decide this one or that one is the one you like then you make up an image showing what you want this new god to look like and now he is a god and will answer all your wants an demands.

      Now Michael, an archangel, is “as God” and Mary can tell Jesus Christ what to do because she is His mother??

      The God Family is the Father and the Son and you have made a ghost a god an angel a god a human women a god and then you have add I guess thousands of dead men and women as saints to pray to, to get more stuff.———— insanity.

      Do you pray to the 266 popes and the 100,000 + bishops and saints also?? Everyone is someone special —- BUT YOU — are not. Your special treat is to kneel and repeat the same exact words 100 times — In school that was a punishment.

      • Mirabolin

        You have to take this ability to ‘ask’ to it’s logical conclusion though.

        You might as well wonder how a man can be made a saint when alive (must have been the medium of a miracle) as wonder how he can be made one when dead if it NOT sainthood apprehended by mankind (as it was in the Bible).

        As for what they do in heaven … they are part of the body of Christ. It is perfectly normal for other Christians to ask other Christian to pray (to God) on their behalf. With the act of prayer and the belief in it’s efficacy is entailed praying to the saints and angels of heaven. You can’t have the first without the second.

        To think that you should only pray for yourself and let God worry about everyone else is just so bizarre an interpretation of loving God it just shows you how trule sick statist individualist religions are. Will God look kindly on the sacrifice that he is still undergoing on behalf of the church (the body of Christ’s sacrifice) being understood by you as no business of yours beyond your personal (defined how?) benefit. “Well he’s hardly undergoing it for them too is he?!”

        If you can’t pray except to God, because he will take care of the rest, then no one is in heaven (separate from God). It’s the same as asking a person asking someone else to pray for them rather than simply asking God in prayer. Or asking God for anything. Or telling anyone anything about God even …. after all, God will take care of it.

      • Mirabolin

        “The God Family is the Father and the Son and you have made a ghost a god

        There is no dualism so you are a unitarian who does not believe that Jesus was God then? How can you know if there is a God if God is not a man?

        • Truthseeker

          mirabolin,

          1 John 2: 22 “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

          Please read closely, the apostle John is saying if you deny that the man Jesus is the Christ, a human man that is God in the flesh AND if you deny the FATHER and the SON you are an antichrist.

          Do you know what is missing here? The Holy Spirit??? The Holy Spirit was not mentioned because IT is not a member of the Godhead. There is the Father and The Son period! NO GHOST- NO MARY-NO MICHAEL, NO APOSTLES, NO SAINTS.

          The Apostle John states if you claim there is a trinity, you are an antichrist.

          Jesus Christ, the Son of God and God before He came to earth, tells mankind to worship the FATHER and HIM only ———-BUT you Catholics worship any and all even fly’s as they are painted all over the ceiling in your big building in Rome.

        • Mirabolin

          One: I don’t think that anyone should be a literalist and care about any literalistic readings of the Gospels – that would not be ‘through Christ alone’ after all – as these are just aids. If a person where to look in the Bible for a guide then they are best advised not to take any position that contradicts St. Paul

          Galatians 4

          6 Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba,[c] Father.”

          7 So you are no longer a slave, but God’s child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir.

          Two: It is well known that the writings and conceptual content of whoever wrote the Gospel of John is can be cross referenced and understood with the writings of Jesus’ (possibly near) contemporary Philo of Alexandria:

          Philo used the term Logos to mean an intermediary divine being, or demiurge. Philo followed the Platonic distinction between imperfect matter and perfect Form, and therefore intermediary beings were necessary to bridge the enormous gap between God and the material world. The Logos was the highest of these intermediary beings, and was called by Philo “the first-born of God.”

          John 1

          1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

        • Mayhem

          @Mirabolin. Did you say…

          “I don’t think that anyone should be a literalist and care about any literalistic readings of the Gospels”

          … and mean that and is that anything like letting other people tell me what all the Scriptures say?

        • Damien

          @Mayhem.

          Yes (mostly)

          No it doesn’t mean someone else telling you what it means. You can LET them show you what it means to them and vice versa of course. I think it is unlikely to ever be the same meaning as that can even involve things as individual as the memories of person life experiences that particular passsages of the bible coulld evoke in you.

        • Mayhem

          I find that strange, Meidan, i really do. Given that the writer is unavailable for questioning we are left with the option of taking their words literally or making up stuff, that suits us, and attributing that to their work. Is their some shade of grey that i’m not seeing?

        • Damien

          @Mayhem

          I realise that you have to read something literally at first but I would think that after you read did you would then wonder if you were just assuming that those who wrote it meant it to be understood that way. You might wonder if they could be have other intensions. Humans can’t communicate each to other literally all the time.

        • Mayhem

          Ah that helps clear my fog, Meidan, and i’ll agree that it can be a considerable benefit to consider all 3 sides to any story. But: in this thread we discuss The Word and i balk at any suggestion that Scripture is, altogether, difficult to understand.

          I thought i saw you trying to slip the thin edge in whereby you could tell us that up was down and black was white. Prefaced as you would have it, Meidan, BS could be sold with a straight face.

          Do i make any sense? “Don’t worry what the words say. Listen to my voice-ssssss”

        • Damien

          That the bilbe is generally stripped of so much of the fantastical (though not all and it decreses as time passes) that other religious and mythical works are full off it does seem to be important to it that is is read simply at first. I personally think that children, or the young are the best transmitters of such stuff anyway (as they would have been in the past – as an excuse – when life expectancy was not so long). Apart from those that are interested in it most adults will always move away from it.

        • Mayhem

          You say what? Are the voices in your head fighting for supremacy again?

    • am123

      From the article:

      “The Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel (long form) is part of my daily prayer regimen.”

      Impotent prayers do not move God. Jesus did not tell us to pray to Michael, or to Mary, or to anyone else but to “Our Father who art in heaven”—sound familiar?

      For anyone who is interested in Biblically-sound prayer and defeating and overcoming the Evil One and finding the secret place of the Most High, see:

      /spirit/2013/03/invoking-angels-to-protect-you-and-your-loved-ones-in-these-troubled-times-2475866.html?currentSplittedPage=0

    • mimi

      God Bless you Miriam,
      You certainly knew you’d be ripped to shreds posting THE TRUTH; gives us another example of just how hated we and His Church and His Mother really are – as we were told. It is this that we have to offer up for the very salvation of these lost/blind souls. I too am a traditional catholic. Thank God for the Light to see that: He has allowed Lucifer to have some reign in His Church for the laziness of His members in not listening to His warnings of the infiltration of It by Satanists. Protesters/Apostates have a difficult time understanding that His Church has been usurped by the evil one and is a repeat of what happened with the Jews. They wanted an earthly kingdom, not a heavenly one and chose Lucifer as their father – as Christ stated very clearly in the Bible. Go figure why the protesters who call themselves christians coddle and promote them as the chosen ones, when Christ said just the opposite. Some will be saved from their blindness in the end, but most currently believe that their messiah is now here – see the Kaduri prophecy and Ariel Sharon. We know who this is – so the time is short.
      How these cafeteria christians can claim to know the Bible, but refuse to believe His Words is utterly amazing. He stated He set up ONE Church – not 500, 000 interpretations – just One. He stated that Peter (ROCK) was to head it, and those chosen to carry on would be guided by the Holy Spirit to prevent error of proper teaching/dogma. He did not promise that men would be infallible. Had He, He would have chosen St. John – who was the holiest – to guide It. He dem onstrated through Peter that you can be afraid, sin, ask for forgiveness (through confession) and be perfected; but all depends on Him, and you being humble. This is where Judas failed, and where 6.5 billion current souls today fail. What more can He do? He suffered such horror out of Love for us, He stated He would never leave us…THIS IS MY BODY, THIS IS MY BLOOD. TAKE AND EAT OR YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU. This is why He was born in a feeding trough/manger. The Eucharistic miracles are still present for all to see..real flesh and blood with one set of DNA belonging to the Mother everyone loves to hate! (Can you imagine how Christ feels about those who hate His Mother? God help them to see their errors). It is the same blood as on the Shroud of Turin. However, as we know that His Church is a New Covenant…. a continuation of the Old sacrifice with Jesus being the Perfect, Perpetual Sacrifice on the altar where the relics of the saints are housed, we know as in the old – the new has been usurped by the evil one – which God has allowed. The Church mirrors Christs life – It flourished, suffered and appears to have died – but – it will be resurrected. As the Jews chose Satan to rule – the Novus Ordo Apostates have allowed Satan into Christ’s Church. This is punishment for being lax in Love for God and His Words and Warnings. His Real Presence has been removed from the altars all over the world since 1968 by the Mason’s who infiltrated and held hostage the true Pope – Card. Siri. They changed and removed Christ’s Words at the Last Supper to confect His Real Presence in the bread and wine, and the Words He used to ordain Peter and the others have been changed; so there is no longer an apostolic priesthood – just as in the old – and now this satanic ‘mass’ has been held in the Upper Room to smack Christ’s Face fully! He has allowed the priesthood to die off, as there are only a few properly consecrated. Therefore, what the world has left is confession to one of the few left or directly to Him and ask for a Spiritual Communion. Of course, all must accept the teachings of His One, Apostolic Church in order to be saved.
      In the Bible He states that The Woman will crush the head of the serpent… and those that hate Her are of his followers. Mary has been created as the new Eve. Only Mary was without sin and as part of His Plan, has been given the power by God to assist in bringing us wayward souls back to Her Son as She brought Him to us to begin with. This is what a good mother does – why is that so hard to understand? She has been given the power to appear in proper apparitions – LaSalette, Fatima – to aid us in seeing the signs of the times. She brought us the Rosary as a Weapon against evil – as anyone who knows history can account for its power in so many conflicts of the elite against the peasants. The reason it is repetious is that the frequency emitted is perfect and creates a protective shield around any who recite it. She is the Arc of the Covenant, as She carried Jesus. So, we don’t worship Her – we honor the place God has given Her.
      For those seeking the Truth, It will be revealed. All that is needed is Faith. Truth is consistent – as every Popes teaching has been (except the anti-pope infiltrates), until God allowed Satan to infiltrate to try to destroy it that Pope Leo 13th spoke of (abomination/desolation) through those enemies John23rd in 1958 and onward to the present. The current Satanist, however, is not properly ordained and fulfills prophecy. You can pick up any teaching on any subject from the 1st century, the 150th, from 1888 and you can’t tell what pope wrote it as its word for word – never contradicting – until 1958. Can any of these protesters say that? NO They contradict one another in the same church building they attend! Chaos is of the devil of lies, consistency is of Truth and regardless of what the world can’t understand b/c they chose not to out of convenience and pride, His Church will always stand – even if there are only a few left – as was at the foot of the Cross. In order to be saved you must believe this and belong to IT.
      My tears are shed for grace and light and an amendment of will to be given to all for their salvation, as well as for the strength to withstand and conquer the attacks we will have to endure.
      These comments, the conditions we see written into US ‘law’ and around the world are a sampling for us. What would these protesters in the US do if they realized that George Washing ton was visited by the BVM and shown what would b/c of the US, and with that – he converted to Catholicism?
      God bless all who are searching for Truth with a fullness of Light and Peace!

      • Miriams Musings

        Thank you for your lovely comment.

        Miriam

    • Pix

      “3. To be the champion of God’s people, the Jews in the Old Law, the Christians in the New ”

      That’s a bit retarded isn’t it, seeing as Judaism didn’t exist until after 70 CE.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
      “The Pharisees (/ˈfærəˌsiːz/) were at various times a political party, a social movement, and a school of thought in the Holy Land during the Second Temple period, beginning under the Hasmonean dynasty (140–37 BCE) in the wake of the Maccabean Revolt. After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, Pharisaic beliefs became the liturgical and ritualistic basis for Rabbinic Judaism (commonly known as simply Judaism).”

      Oops. :lol:

      • Mayhem

        You think those concepts are compatible, Pix? You might call me a Jew, most folk would, but i only claim to long to be included among Israel. You think of religion when you see the word “Jew” and i think of a people. Where’s the compatibility?

        • Mayhem

          … but nice try: attempting to lump all folk of Faith in with the Talmud reading Jew’s. We know who they are and we know what they do and what they did. Please, Pix, a little respect if you will.

        • Mayhem

          Thanks, HockeyFan, i see you.

        • sisterSlutty

          Yes, my avatar is a picture of me, “your” Savior, attending a Hockey Payoff game in Boston this spring!

          I LOVE THE VIOLENCE OF THE GAME, (as you all know my perchance for violence when dealing with you, my children), and am A BIG HOCKEY FAN!!!!
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        • Mayhem

          That’s penchant, dummy, and your vile doesn’t scare anyone. Boo!

        • sisterSlutty

          Mayhem, the other Jed B. identity!
          Or, like Jed (and all of you vile christo-CREEPS), you just HAVE TO CORRECT THE misspellings, or mistakes!!!!

          Just like a vampire has certain obsessions they cannot help themselves from performing!!! Like, untying knots!

          And, christo-CREEPS, like you, mayhem, MUST CORRECT!!!

          Now, why would I “scare” you, little coal shoveling mayhem (how’s the lungs today??)????

          “Scaring little children and weak minded adults” is the very nature of “YOUR” ‘religion OF TERROR’, there, little mayhem!
          Judeo-chrisSCUMDUMB, the “religion” of violent maniacs!!!!!!!!!

          So, you are “From new zeland” (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha)?

          Yea, Jed B., more like New Jersey!
          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        • Mayhem

          Everyone is Jed to you: “Jed the Fed: under my bed”, meow. Don’t you know, HockeyFan, that after a certain point your attacks against God end up helping draw folk closer to Faith? Well: if you’re the poster boy for the atheists i’m thrilled to be with the Bible bashers. Then there’s manners.

        • carsonking

          Dude, you can’t go round doing that, it’s just not cricket. Even if he did it himself, it’s wrong and your a wrong en for doing it. It will be deleted I’m sure but it’s not good.

        • sisterSlutty

          Why, carsonking,
          I COME IN PEACE!
          (Just like a christian says)
          WE WANT TO HELP YOU!
          (Just like a “christian” says)
          WE LOVE YOU (just like a “christian” says)!

          So, carsonking, this is “just a little” TOUGH LOVE, christian style!!!

          HOW DO YOU LIKE IT, DUDE, when it is done to you??????????
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        • Mayhem

          Then, when that post does get deleted, the nesting gets all screwy. Hiya, carsonking, and welcome to the mad house.

          How come i can’t e-mail a complaint to the admin any more? I’ve marked that comment as spam but not sure if my one vote will achieve much.

      • Miriams Musings

        Hi, Pix,

        It is not retarded. The “Jews” or “Israelites” have been around for over 5000 years!

        Miriam

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