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Megaquake Initiates SEVEN Trumpets in Revelation 8:5,6 Before Rapture “at LAST Trumpet,” 1Cor 15:52

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Millions of Christians spent billion$ for books & movies teaching a pre-tribulation rapture when the Bible says, “We must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom.” Acts 14:22. The fruit of a fictional book & movie series is a lack of interest in the Revelation of Christ, that book promises blessing for those who read and understand it, but so many Christians think they won’t be around. To understand this topic better, please take a few minutes here!

 



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    • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

      “1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

      YOU APPEAR TO MISUNDERSTAND THE ABOVE PASSAGE. IT DOESN’T SUGGEST A RAPTURE RATHER IT REFERS SPECIFICALLY TO THE 144,000 WHO WILL BE RAISED TO SPIRIT IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION THAT OCCURS AT THE RETURN OF CHRIST. SCRIPTURE TELLS US THOSE WHO WILL MAKE UP GOD’S GOVERNMENT WILL ASCEND FROM THE GRAVE TO THE HEAVENS (NOT HEAVEN) TO MEET CHRIST WHO COMES RIDING IN ON THE CLOUDS FOR ALL MEN TO SEE. THESE TRIED AND TRUE WILL THEN RULE WITH CHRIST THROUGHOUT HIS MILLENNIAL REIGN.

      “1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”

      “Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which…

      • Dr Richard Ruhling

        Benny (Ben means son and Cloyse derives from an enclosed place–so please try to think outside the box you are suggesting!)
        The 144,000 are sealed with 7 seals in Rev 7–six of the seals are contextually linked to the six seals in Rev 6. I’ll give you 2 examples
        1. When John heard thunder, it’s a link to God’s name where Christ asked the Father to gloryify His name in John 12:28,29 and the people thought it thundered. We see this also with the 144,000 who have God’s name and there’s thunder in Rev 14:1.
        These 144,000 get to follow Christ wherever He goes in eternity–HIGH privilege because they live through the time of trouble ahead like Daniel did without denying God. This will be crucial to vindicate God who has been accused by the devil of an unfair law that no one can keep. We know that’s not true, but so much of the world believes that only Christ was was also God could do it. But He had not power that we cannot have if we are filled with His Spirit and God will have the witness of 144,000 who live through trouble well so there is NO Need for them to be resurrected as you say above. They are special people like Elijah who was translated AFTER he confronted false worship which we must also do when a New World Order compells it in Rev 13:14-18.

        • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

          “These 144,000 get to follow Christ wherever He goes in eternity.” although as spiritual entities that’s certainly true however I caution you not to assume that which is not written, to refrain from scripture mining or imposing your own carnal interpretation rather than accepting God’s Word as it is appears in context. As a consequence of your abstract application of His logos in this case you are either wittingly or incidentally improvising on, distorting out of context God’s divine truth, His expressed plan to come live on earth with His prized creation, mankind is forsaken. See Isaiah 65:17-19 which confirms “Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven” and “Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.” Think about it logically. Exactly what purpose in correlation with God’s intention to create His spiritual family, Elohim here on a paradise earth would man ascending to heaven serve? Truth matters!

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Benny, You sound like a great authority cautioning me ” not to assume that which is not written,” when I was responding to your assumption that “the 144,000…WILL BE RAISED TO SPIRIT IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION” (2nd line of your first post.
      That is total presumption on your part and I offered you the evidence of Rev 7 that shows them sealed (an echo of the sealing in Neh 9:38 when a covenant was made–and it’s the covenant that make us the kingdom as it did in Exod 19:5,6, so the 144,000 make a covenant and become the first fruits of the kingdom in the end-time and YOU have NO evidence that they die to say THEY will be resurrected. You are making a lot of assumptions. Let me encourage you to take a look at a new book. For half the price of a meal, you get a meal for your mind. It’s on Amazon, “From Lockdown to Knockdown, the Fall of America” (by me) at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YJJSGYZ May God bless you!

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        Again you rely on scripture applied out of context imagining yourself to be persuasive in your folly. I’ll let you in on something. During my twelve year spiritual journey I’ve overcome spiritual entities way more powerful than a simple human Pharisee (self-righteous person; hypocrite). You boldly claim to be an authority knowledgeable of God’s Word and divine intention for mankind yet you so eagerly reject His truth and try desperately to sew confusion among those seeking Him. As a brother in Christ, as someone who loves Yahweh our heavenly Father, I implore you to stop stumbling others by teaching/advocating that which opposes Him. Pray for spiritual clarity! Out of love I’ve extended myself, I’ve warned you your doctrine stands in ungodly error! To me there is no credit, it’s not my Word that defends what is by God Almighty true and righteous. Why do you fight correction? Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. In conclusion here’s a few supporting passages to ponder. I urge you to first repent then pray for understanding before reading the entire chapter and verse. You must have God’s Holy Spirit guiding you if you expect to fully grasp it’s meaning. I will pray for your enlightenment. 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be…

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      You assume and imply a deep spiritual experience that others don’t have and they should plead with God to see it as you do, but you are flat-out wrong about the 144,000 that are sealed at the beginning of the tribulation (Rev 6,7 and they survive wisely when millions will die so that they do not need to be resurrected a few years later when Christ comes. You have no proof that they died. We see them sealed with the Father’s name in their forehead in Rev 14 and get to follow Christ wherever He goes They are said to be ‘virgins’ and since the BIble explains itself, they must be the wise virgins that get into the wedding by making a covenant as a synthesis of the wedding parables imply. BTW: God’s name is not Yahweh as so many Messianic believers think. Josephus, a Jewish historian at the time of Jerusalem’s destruction described the golden crown of the High Priest “in which was engraven the Sacred Name–it consists of four vowels.” YHWH are consonants. For a better understanding of His name with additional support for why 4 vowels, please visit http://GodsName1stSeal.wordpress.com

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        You appear to be more concerned with protecting your error than you are with edification of God’s truth. That rebellious heart says more than you can defend! You’re grasping at straws to discredit me in a futile attempt to validate your inaccuracy. “YHWH,” the vowels are interjected for pronunciation purposes. Yahweh is how we who do not read or speak Hebrew say and recognize God’s name. Although I am only a student of His Word I am happy to share with you what I’ve learned. If you have questions I’ll attempt to answer truthfully what I have learned guided by God’s Holy Spirit. What I won’t do is provide you stage where you can challenge with inaccuracy what is honorable, righteous and true! Again read the entire chapter if you honestly want to understand a passage.

        Revelation 6:9-11 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be “killed as they were” should be fulfilled.

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Benny, I can tell by your response to God’s name that you didn’t look at the evidence, you just gave me current Jewish tradition which is a current mindset without looking back, and you think you know more than Oxford University’s Textbook of Classical Hebrew cited below–

      Some say those letters are consonants, but a renowned Hebrew textbook says, “Long before the introduction of vowel-signs, it was felt that the main vowel-sounds should be indicated in writing, and so the three letters, yothe, hay, waw, were used to represent long vowels.” A Practical Grammar for Classical Hebrew, Weingreen, Oxford University Press, 1959, p. 7-8. God’s name is spelled yod, hay, waw [vav], hay.

      Josephus, a Jewish historian at the time of Jerusalem’s destruction, gives a major clue. He describes the high priest’s golden crown, “in which was engraven the sacred name [of God]…It consists of four vowels,” Wars of the Jews, Book 5, Chapter 5, Section 7

      Some modern authorities agree. “The letters of the Name of God in Hebrew are yod, hay, vav, and hay. They are frequently mispronounced Yahveh …[but] they are all vowels.” Rabbi Lawrence Kushner, The Book of Words, Jewish Lights Publ, p. 27.

      Consonants [like b, d, k, or m] are made by obstruction of air flow. God’s name has no obstruction like our names or characters have. His name and His character are all flow and melody. Vowels are the essential part of any pronounceable word.

      We use the vowels of God’s name in every word we speak or write—we wouldn’t have any intelligible words without vowels. God lets us use the vowels of His name in every word we speak!

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        Your futile, but entertaining attempt to skirt God’s truth and vindicate your own inaccuracy with linguistics is embarrassingly apparent. Like your father the devil you embrace false doctrine then employ deceitful antics to justify what is evil. You therefore deserve to wallow in the religious the folly and spiritual poppycock you’ve circumscribed any possible enlightenment with. I’m certain somewhere down deep you understand there’s consequences for willingly rejecting God’s Word, and more specifically for interjecting your own carnal thinking and abstract interpretations into it. Standing in opposition of truth you will never be alone. Here in Satan’s world there’s no shortage of confused people who have absorbed the same blasphemous nonsense you advocate. In closing, I urge you to avoid relying on imaginative interpretations and false doctrine to challenge the spiritual clarity I’ve forwarded. Whether you realize it or not you make yourself appear obtuse and cretinous, trying to defend what is truly indefensible. I CAN SEE I’M WASTING VALUABLE TIME ON YOU. THIS CONVERSATION IS NOW OVER.

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Benny, I hope that readers will check both sides to see that you have so little Scripture or historical evidence to support your vitriol. I suspect demonic influences that are now beyond your control. Please seek help from a prayer warrior…

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        Whenever one with a contrite heart asks God for forgiveness and spiritual guidance then merely reads Bible verses in context beginning at the start of a chapter and stopping at the end, they will certainly have a better understanding of scripture than you probably ever will! Your mind is imprisoned within useless fantasy and rejects the purity of the Word. You fail to recognize the scriptural evidence provided because truth is foreign to you evil man, that’s why you ultimately resorted to duplicitous defense and false accusation. I will pray God not hold you accountable for bearing this false witness.

        Ring a bell?
        “2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

        • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

          One last thing, I apologize for wasting both our time! I knew ahead of time what I had to offer is not mine to give or to teach for that matter. I have not been commissioned by God to do either. I honestly never assumed I could convince you of anything, only God has the power and authority to open your mind to that which He’s protected. Ironically I begin having zero hope you would enthusiastically assimilate the treasure I placed in your care, so I must fervently accept responsibility for this lengthy and unrewarding exchange. In spite of our religious indifference I wish you well, may God always be with you!

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      “Judge not, that ye be not judged.”

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        I don’t judge you the person brother, just the scriptural inaccuracy you’ve publicly broadcast. You the man I love as one of God’s children, as my brother good or bad. No offense taken, none meant. I assure you the truth will come out sooner than most would imagine. God willing we can then look back at our debate knowing then with absolutely certainty who was right and who was in error. The big question for all of us will be, can we accept that which is conflict with what we thought we knew carved in stone?

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Benny, Thank you for the kind spirit reflected in your last message. God bless you too. I think part of the reason for 1000 years in heaven may be to look over the records that God has written in His books and understand better why some we thought would never make it are with us there, and some we thought would be there may not make it…to satisfy our sense of God’s great love and all that He does for our salvation.

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        I agree that the Eternal God, Yahweh is all merciful. If He wasn’t and didn’t have a remarkable sense of humor with my worldly background I surely would have never been called. I am however compelled to challenge the false notion man ascends to heaven. If that were true Christ would be a liar. “John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.” Ascending to heaven although not part of God’s plan for mankind was in fact Lucifer’s greatest aspiration. “Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Benny,
      Your last couple messages shine with love and a non-judgmental spirit that makes you attractive as a brother in Y’shua. May He bless and guide you in the principles of HIs Word.

      • The Infamous Benny Cloyse

        My battle is not with men, but with the spiritual entity who misleads them. It’s an information war between truth and what has been cunningly distorted. I truly apologize if I’ve been perceived as too abrupt. Truth be known, I love God and what offends Him offends me. On occasion I get a little riled and am not as diplomatic as I should be when dealing with such sensitive matters. Again I hope we can depart friends!

    • Dr Richard Ruhling

      Dear Brother Benny, On a magnet, there is a north and south pole, but two positives repel each other and I think we are both a lot alike. I feel the same way as you in what you so well expressed in your last post, and “now we see through a glass darkly” (1Cor 13) but God loves us each, as the one lost sheep that He would have died for. If I can help you in any way, feel free to be in touch, [email protected] I believe we have only two years before big trouble comes, as seen in this article that over 700 have viewed, /police-state/2021/04/how-five-when-then-signs-point-to-2023-for-biblical-end-times-5963.html I hoppe you like it–God bless you!

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