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Despite the tendency of Hollywood films and sci-fi novels to depict malevolent encounters between evenly matched space adversaries, Shostak says the size of the universe and the rarity of life makes it extremely unlikely that two races of roughly equal intelligence will encounter one another in the cosmos. That said, reports of UFO sightings led some scholars to develop theories about this scenario. They asked: what would we do if we were aliens discovering us? [Science Fact or Fiction: ET Will Look Like Us]

According to Robert Freitas, author of several books outlining possible alien contact scenarios, in 1950 the U.S. military developed a procedure called “Seven Steps to Contact,” laying out the logical steps we would take upon discovering creatures with roughly human-level sentience. According to the steps, we would begin with remote surveillance and data gathering, and would eventually move on to covert visitations with the goal of gauging the performance characteristics of the aliens’ vehicles and weaponry.
If we judged our technological capabilities to be superior to those of the other race, we would attempt near approaches to the planet to determine whether the alien beings were hostile, and if so, by what means. If all went well, we would then make brief touchdowns in isolated areas, securing specimens of plants, animals, and of the intelligent beings themselves. In other words, this phase would involve non-harmful abductions similar to those reported by some Americans. (Interestingly, the “Seven Steps to Contact” plan predated the first reported alien abduction incident in 1957, suggesting the theory could have influenced such reports.) [Alien Abductions May Be Vivid Dreams, Study Finds]
Next, we would make our presence known, making low-level approaches where our craft and its operators could be seen, but not reached. We would try to be witnessed by the greatest possible number of inhabitants, and would demonstrate our existence and our nonhostile nature. Lastly, if all went well and there was no reason to think that contact would be disastrous for the two races involved, we would land and attempt to communicate face-to-alien-face.
Half a century since that military report was penned, we’d still follow much the same procedure. “Let’s say that a near-future mission to Europa reveals indisputable evidence of intelligent beings/civilization,” Haqq-Misra said. “Continued remote exploration would probably be the most likely progression, with attempts at remote communication with the subterranean intelligent beings included as part of the missions. Eventually humans would want to land and make contact (wearing astro-scuba suits?), but a ‘precautionary principle’ might delay human exploration until robotic exploration has confirmed that Europa’s inhabitants are safe.                                                                                                                                                                                                                             What if, as in the second scenario proposed by Haqq-Misra, we happened upon a race of aliens who were orders of magnitude smarter than us — beings capable of interstellar spaceflight who had established a base somewhere in our solar system? Just as ants can’t make sense of human behavior, it’s difficult or impossible for us to understand how this advanced race would react to us. “[The renowned astronomer] Carl Sagan figured any aliens that might be able to travel between the stars would be so advanced that they would be beyond all this business of aggression and war and so forth,” Shostak said. “But that may just be a projection of what he hopes humans would do eventually.”
Shostak tends to think differently. Aggression, he says, evolved as a trait among Earthlings because it helps us obtain and protect resources. Though aliens would probably have evolved under totally different conditions, pressure to secure finite resources would probably have molded their behavior, too. “I suspect resources would be finite anywhere in the universe.”
If Sagan is right, then the wise race we encountered would treat us with immense consideration and respect, while having the technology to ensure that we treat them similarly. If Shostak is right, and the incredibly advanced aliens we stumbled upon were also as aggressive as we are, we’d probably be toast.
Well, not toast exactly. In Haqq-Misra’s opinion, “A society capable of interstellar travel should have solved their development issues such that they do not need humans for food.”                                                                                                                                                               

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    • robobbob

      they do not need humans for food. why?
      I hear of some humans who consider bat-guano coffee to be a great delicacy. “need” is not the only driver of action
      three and only three possibilities of outcome of contact are possible.
      one) beneficial
      two) neutral
      three) hostile
      anyone who says they know which one is more or less likely are deluded. only one of those are helpful to humans. don’t bet against the odds.

    • Banderman

      If space aliens do exist, and they probably do, they are obviously light years ahead of us in technology, weaponry, and intelligence. To suggest Earthlings could defeat an alien invasion is about all we can expect from humans; arrogant, over stated, over confident, and tragically flawed. Why do humans always seem to have an itching, hostile, unmet desire to destroy, kill, confront, and dominate?

    • Don't be hating!

      These aliens are not part of the Greater Community and only seek to make us part of their collective. Is all about their survival and enslaving the freedom of others for resources and strategic planetary control.

    • Anonymous

      Seth Shostak makes quite the assumption with the quote, “I suspect resources would be finite anywhere in the universe.” with it he asserts that aggression may be common to all intelligent life due to the protection of limited resources. Is Seth a Globalist suggesting all resources are finite? I’ve read energy is limitless through the ether, as Tesla proved. If we had limitless free energy, we could have limitless desalinated seawater, and limitless clean air… Why does Seth try to instill fear into the minds of the population when it is HIS organization that is attempting to contact this potentially agressive entities? Fear controls the masses. Fear over limited resources has fueled every war ever fought. Nice work Seth!!!

    • kindredsoul53

      You can not assume that if people don’t go along with your therory they are delusional..Please..A little arrogant don’t you think? This is in response to the post of Tue. April 17th 2012 9:12

    • mmkkpro

      A little research will result in a time line much different than 1957, sumarians,hindu,egyptians,several native indian cultues,gnostics among others spoke of contact thousands of years ago,roswell is a footnote,not the beganing.

    • mmkkpro

      By the way,whatever happened to the good ole days,swamp gas,tempeture inversions,miss identifcations,hoaxes,just plain old didnt see what ya saw

    • HereAmI

      We are remarkably arrogant to think we could do low-level passes over their planets, land and secure specimens, etc. We can’t even go to the Moon. Ever looked at the construction of the LEM? It’s not even airtight, and had Donkey Kong as its brain. Please! Get real Seth. Space aliens are fallen angels, that’s all. That’s why they apparently come all the way here every day of the week to look at us. There’s nothing to see apart from evil people (mostly) doing evil things. It’s not very inspirational, I’m afraid, but they keep coming. Why? Because we on Earth are at the literal centre of the universe. The earth is neither spinning around itself, nor around the sun. It is stationary. That will be a shock to most of you lunatics weaned on Star Wars and all the other nonsense you’ve been fed since you first crawled out of your high-chair. Around US is spun the meaning of creation. Satan and his angels exist. Those who go looking for him, find him. Next they are “abducted”; this results in possession, and a very unpleasant wake-up call; just ask anyone who has tried to contact them, the experience invariably makes them feel like they’ve been raped. They are evil and seek your downfall.
      The Bible is the perfect and absolute word of God. If you don’t believe me, and you cannot, because you are spiritually dead, but anyway, go and read “The Other Bible Code” website, by Vernon Jenkins. There you will find that beneath the words lurks a mathematical three-dimensional construction which could only have been woven by YHVH himself. It’s a bit like a living body, the sign that it has been made by God is that the deeper you go, the more you find absolute and undeniable perfection; this is not the same with your i-pad or whatever gizmo you swear by, which looks increasingly tatty the deeper you go into it. The first verse of Genesis factorizes out into two large prime numbers, which are of sufficient size that one fits perfectly inside the other, protecting it. That is why we KNOW that the Word has not become corrupt over time. It is perfectly preserved, and has a perfect message for you. Which is: “For God so loved the world that He sent His only-begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish, but have everlasting life”. Can’t get more direct than that. Trust Him, He will force any “aliens” coming into your bedroom to back off. They fear Him, He has absolute power over them. Trust Him for everything, and make sure you are with me under the new heavens on the New Earth. (Isaiah ch 66 v22 ).
      ps It’s coming really soon. 21st March is the beginning of Tribulation.
      The Lord Himself returns on 3rd October 2016.
      See The Daniel Timeline.

    • antigray

      UFOs are not all flown by true extraterrestrials, the majority of them are owned and operated by our advanced Repto Sapien cousins, who share the Earth with us as their ancestral home world. They are historically cited in about 80 places in the Bible, being described as a SERPENT THAT WALKS UPRIGHT ON TWO LEGS AND IS AS TALL AS A CAMEL (8 FEET TALL). There are statues and temple paintings of them in nearly every ancient society. This has nothing to do with “religious beliefs.” It is a proven historical and archaeological fact. That’s why I wrote a book showing all of the real world evidence.

      Publisher’s site to order my book in paperback or Ebook

      WARNING reveals a frightening alien agenda, a long-term program of social domination and periodic controlled genocide. Mankind is now in great danger. We have a terrible problem to overcome. Resolution requires international solidarity, then forcible negotiation with the aliens.

      Some artwork from my book. Click on each image for larger view:


      Art Greenfield

    • carveorstarve

      Hey “HereAmI”..for how many more thousands of years do we need to hear that tribulation will start soon? Or that our savior is coming? You do know that he didn’t want to be worshipped right? That he exposed the church and the money changers, same folks who wrote your precious book. Doesn’t that raise questions and concerns? I’m not claiming to hold the truth but I know and have known how to spot deception when I see if “he” exposed the church for charging to worship aka “tithes and offerings” which they got rich off of, using their wealth to dominate. What does it mean when “the church”, same church is one of the wealthiest organizations on the planet, doing the same exact thing they did before they were exposed?

    • carveorstarve

      And I can put just as much belief in a theory that our govt has secret technology, flying around in ufos to scare the public into thinking they’re fallen can you be so arrogant to think the earth is the center of the universe..hows that ancient propaganda taste? Cuz you swallow it like its food

    • Wakkierob

      100% they would eat us and are doing but can’t eat enough as there are billions born every year!

      Think about it a cow goes moo to us so we eat it! lol

    • MFranklin

      As a whole, we are not a very smart species. Yes, even the least educated of our kind can probably learn to tie a shoe but can they build a fire without instructions?

      You see the problem.

      Whether they are genuine aliens or angels/demons, the end result is the same; our species is in no place to try and challenge their presence or their will. Just reading the comments here and it’s easy to see why they don’t want open, direct contact as well.

    • antigray

      Hi MFranklin, They have had open contact with humanity worldwide for thousands of years. They avoid open contact now because they know we are at a stage where we have figured out they are not gods. If they openly interacted now it would stampede the cattle which would be counterproductive. The following article was written by noted anthropologist professor C. Scott Littleton on the alien topic. My answer to his findings follows.


      By C. Scotty Littleton

      I am not a ufologist. I’ve never investigated a UFO sighting, nor a crop
      circle, cattle mutilation, or an abduction. Nor, to the best of my conscious
      knowledge, am I an “experiencer.” Twice, when I was young and again a few
      years ago, I’ve observed flying objects that didn’t fit any categories with
      which I’m familiar.[1] But I’ve never had a significant “missing time” episode
      or other indication that I’ve been a “guest” aboard an alien ship.

      Yet for more decades than I care to remember, I’ve watched the serious UFO
      literature–including works by investigators such as Jacques Valleé, Budd
      Hopkins, John Mack, David Jacobs, Timothy Goode, Linda Moulton Howe, Jenny
      Randles, Raymond Fowler, Stanton Friedman, Bruce Maccabee, the late Allen
      Hynek, and Don Ecker of UFO Magazine , to mention a few–grow into an impressive
      body of data and theory. It is a literature that can no longer be ignored by
      responsible social scientists, including cultural anthropologists like
      myself. Thus, I’ve decided to “come out of the closet,” as it were, and assert
      my belief that the UFO phenomenon is real–despite the carefully orchestrated
      attempts by our own and other governments to deny its existence, and the
      skeptics and debunkers who do their best to make persons who take the
      phenomenon seriously appear ridiculous.

      The implications of the UFO phenomenon for anthropologists–or for anyone
      who would make rational sense out of the human condition–are profound. If
      Valleé, et al. are correct, humans have been the genetically exploited “lab
      rats” of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations, whose technological
      sophistication (evincing Sir Arthur C. Clarke’s assertion that “Any sufficiently
      advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”) has allowed them to
      maintain a clandestine hegemony over this planet for at least the past 13,000

      With apologies to the “British Raj,” which held hegemony over India from
      the late seventeenth century to 1947, I’ve come to conceive of this
      extraterrestrial presence as the “Alien Raj.” Yet that may be a grossly
      picture of the nature of human-alien interaction, especially in ancient
      times. The “Alien Raj” seems not to have been–and may still not
      be–monolithic, any more than was the British Raj, even in its
      nineteenth-century heyday.

      Almost every ancient mythology includes at least one rebellious deity, one
      who willfully violates the divine “rules.” For the most part, such figures
      are what anthropologists call “tricksters,” that is, gods or heroes who gain
      their ends by cleverness, stealth, and liberal applications of magic rather
      than by sheer divine power. Tricksters are typically reprimanded and/or
      severely punished for their actions, which, more often than not, involve efforts
      to transmit elements of divine wisdom or “technology” to mortals.

      This article focuses on three trickster deities: (1) The Old Testament
      figure Lucifer, the “Light-Bearer,” who, in defiance of Yahweh, brought
      self-awareness to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden; (2) the Greek deity
      Prometheus, who rebelled against the authority of Zeus and gave fire to mankind;
      (3) the ancient Mesoamerican god Quétzalcoatl, the “Feathered Serpent,” known
      to the Maya as Kukulkan, who was forced into exile because of his efforts
      on behalf of mankind.

      I posit that these and other trickster deities (e.g. the Old Norse god
      Loki, who built Valhalla but later turned against the supreme god Odin, and the
      pan-Polynesian god Maui, for whom the island is named) are mythological
      reflections of one or more extraterrestrial dissidents who rebelled against the
      Alien Raj’s “Prime-Directive”-type policy of non- interference in human
      affairs–except when it suits the aliens’ immediate agenda–and were punished
      for their actions by the Raj.

      * Lucifer

      The best-known, albeit most misunderstood, of my three examples is Lucifer,
      the “Fallen Angel” who rebelled against the divine authority of Yahweh and
      was exiled from Heaven. Soon thereafter, disguised as a serpent, he tricked
      Adam and Eve into becoming fully sentient, that is, over and above an
      immediate awareness of their sexual natures. This violated God’s policy of “non-
      interference” in the newly-created humans’ affairs, and Lucifer remained an
      outcast as far as the supreme–and eventually monotheistic–Hebrew deity was

      I suspect that in this story’s earliest version, Lucifer, like Prometheus,
      also gave Adam and Eve the secret of fire-making, as is suggested by his
      name. Note, although they were eventually conflated, Lucifer should be
      distinguished from Satan, who entered the Hebrew tradition much later and is
      from the ancient Zoroastrian entity Angra Mainyu, the “Lord of Darkness,”
      who was believed to be in permanent conflict with Ahura Mazda, the “Lord of
      Light and Goodness.” (This latter conflict may also reflect the alien
      presence, more specifically a conflict between two or more ET species who, some
      6,000-7,000 year ago, seem to have fought what amounted to a colonial war for
      possession of Earth.[3])

      In the fully developed Hebrew religious tradition, the sexual aspect of
      Lucifer’s “gift,” together with the defiance of divine authority, assumed a
      disproportionate importance, and thus, unlike Prometheus, the Hebrew
      “Light-Bearer” remained a negative figure, an exile deserving his fate. Thus,
      ironically, the ancient Hebrews came to interpret the mythology surrounding this
      pro-human figure in much the same way the Alien Raj regarded the behavior of
      the dissident who inspired it: a clear violation of the rules that could not
      go unpunished.

      * Prometheus

      A member of the Titans (the elder dieties in ancient Greek tradition),
      Prometheus defected and sided with the younger Olympian gods, headed by Zeus.
      (Again, we have the theme of an ancient conflict that probably has alien
      overtones.) But after the Olympians defeated the Titans and banished their
      (Zeus’s father Kronos) to subterranean Tartaros, Prometheus (whose name
      means “Forethought”) grew uneasy with Zeus’s intentions toward the
      newly-created humans. Zeus, the chief Olympian, forbade Prometheus from carrying
      from Heaven and teaching mortals how to use it. Prometheus defied his
      sovereign and did so anyway. As a result, humans became more than mere dumb
      just as Lucifer’s “gift” permitted Adam and Eve to emulate their creator,
      at least to a degree.

      Enraged, Zeus chained the rebellious god to a mountain top, where an eagle
      pecked his liver. A colleague, Elizabeth Barber, suggests that this is a
      metaphor for a volcanic eruption in which the eagle’s black wings are the
      spreading plume of smoke and the god’s blood is the red-hot lava flowing down
      mountain side. Her interpretation may also be correct, as most mythology is
      multi-layered; once it was clear that the rebellious gift-giver from the
      sky was punished, human imagination took over, and the symbolic association of
      Prometheus’s torment with a particularly devastating volcanic eruption took

      In time, Zeus’s rage abated, and Prometheus came to occupy a heroic
      position in ancient Greek religion as humanity’s chief divine benefactor. This
      in stark contrast to the Lucifer myth, nevertheless, the tales are strikingly
      similar. Indeed, together with R. J. Werblowksi and several other scholars,
      I suspect there is a historical connection between these two figures, and
      that they reflect a common Near Eastern account of a rebellious,
      “light-bearing” pro-human deity who descended from the sky bearing
      knowledge–technological and otherwise–and was punished and/ or exiled by his
      “divine”–that is,
      alien–superiors for his actions on behalf of humanity.

      * Quétzalcoatl

      My third example of a “pro-human” deity that seems to derive from a
      dissident alien prototype is the Mesoamerican “feathered-serpent” god
      called Kukulkan by the Maya, who is described as a culture- bearer. A
      relatively benign deity, at least by the bloody standards of Mesoamerican
      mythology, Quétzalcoatl, like Lucifer and Prometheus, came to earth to teach his
      human devotees all manner of useful arts and wisdom.[4] Like the other two
      divine rebels, by doing so, he angered his fellow gods and was forced into
      exile, although vowing to return at some future time–a motif implicit in the
      other two mythologies (Prometheus returned after Zeus pardoned him, and
      Lucifer’s eagerness to return, albeit negatively valued, permeates the
      Judeo-Christian tradition).

      Two elements of the Quétzalcoatl mythology are relevant. First, his
      “feathered-serpent” image. Several UFO abductees, including Nebraska Highway
      Patrolman Herbert Schirmer and Betty Andreessen-Luca, have reported seeing
      serpents emblazoned on the abductors’ uniforms. Although this element is
      absent in the Lucifer and Prometheus mythology, Lucifer’s reptilian alter ego
      in the Garden of Eden is noteworthy, and the winged-serpent figure does exist
      in ancient Greek tradition in the image of the Caduceus (although it’s
      associated with Asclepias, god of medicine, rather than with Prometheus).

      Nevertheless, I suspect the image of a winged or feathered serpent is an
      important and deep-rooted alien symbol, one that may reflect a very ancient
      extraterrestrial totemic identification that predates the Alien Raj. Thus, one
      may expect both dissidents, like the prototype of Quétzalcoatl, and the
      more “establishment” type aliens who abducted Schirmer and Andreasson-Luca, to
      display it.

      The second relevant element in the Quétzalcoatl mythology is the idea that
      he is fair-skinned. This was one reason Moctezuma initially accepted
      Hernando Cortes as Quétzalcoatl redux.[5] (Among the alien physical types
      by abductees are the so-called “Nordics”: blond, blue-eyed humanoids who
      sometimes appear in charge.[6] ) Although Cortes and his fellow Spaniards
      didn’t entirely match this human type, the dissident alien prototype of
      Quétzalcoatl could have been a Nordic, and the fact that the Europeans were
      fairer than Mexicans may have led Moctezuma and his people to believe that
      the god had returned. Of course, they soon realized that Cortes and his
      rapacious comrades were far from divine, but by then it was too late; the
      Conquest was a fait accompli.

      This may be a lesson for us humans, especially for those “New-Agers” who
      have seen fit to deify our alien colonial masters.

      * Rebel God and Alien Prototype(s)

      We have a pattern: A divine being (Lucifer, Prometheus, Quétzalcoatl, and
      other trickster figures) defies his superiors in the pantheon (Yahweh, Zeus,
      Huitzilopochitli) and attempts to assist humans. After transmitting some
      divine lore (self-awareness, the secret of fire-making, writing, etc.) he is
      punished by his superiors, either physically or by exile. It seems extremely
      probably that this widespread theme reflects an actual event (or series of
      events) of some 5,000-odd years ago, one that involved an abortive rebellion
      against the non-interference policy of the Alien Raj.

      Do alien dissidents still exist? One can only wonder, although some
      abductees/contactees do report being given information that has proven useful.
      friend Jack Sarfatti, a post-quantum physicist, asserts that he received an
      alien “phone call” in 1953 which predicted that he’d make an important
      breakthrough in 1973. And it happened. Could this phone call have been made by
      heir to Prometheus or Quétzalcoatl?

      If a dissident movement persists within the Alien Raj, we must contact it
      and obtain some of that magical technology, and the science behind it. It
      would appear to be the only realistic way to consider overthrowing the Raj’s
      oppressive hegemony. Only when we discard the notion that our extraterrestrial
      “visitors,” as Whitley Strieber has dubbed them, exist on some higher
      “spiritual plane” than ourselves can we make rational sense of a phenomenon that
      has such a profound, albeit clandestine, impact on our existence.

      As yet, no hard, incontrovertible evidence exists that my three divine
      “suspects” were mythological reflexes of ancient alien dissidents. But I submit
      that the “soft” evidence supporting both the presence of an Alien Raj, and
      my above hypothesis, is persuasive enough to warrant close collaboration
      between anthropologists specializing in comparative mythology and folklore, and
      serious students of the UFO phenomenon.

      We anthropologists must overcome the “they shouldn’t exist, therefore they
      don’t exist”skeptical mindset frequently encountered in academia, and
      systematically examine UFO abductee accounts and their congruence with mythology
      and folklore.

      * Footnotes …

      1. Circa 1936 or 1937, when I was three or four years old, I watched what I
      later came to think of as a “flying French horn”–this was at least a
      decade before the phrase “flying saucer” entered the lexicon–drift slowly
      my nursery window after waking up from an afternoon nap. A half-century
      later, in March of 1990, while vacationing at the southern tip of Baja
      California, I woke up at 3:00 a.m. one morning and watched a bright point of
      perform a variety of maneuvers over the ocean, including 90-degree turns,
      that no aircraft I’m aware of can perform. After about three minutes, just as I
      was about to wake up my wife, the object simply winked out.

      2. Exactly how long the aliens have been here is still an open question.
      The appearance of lenticular, or discoid images on cave walls in Southern
      France and elsewhere in the late Upper Paleolithic (ca. 13,000 years ago), lends
      credence to this date, but their arrival could have been earlier–perhaps
      as far back as 25,000 years ago if some ambiguous African petroglyphs are
      depictions of alien beings. Some investigators assert aliens have been here for
      hundreds of thousands of years, and were responsible for hominid evolution,
      or at least that of anatomically modern Homo sapiens. However, other
      researchers, such as David Jacobs (personal communication), assert that the
      presence hardly dates back more than a century.

      3. Except perhaps to say that Charles Fort’s eighty-odd-year-old
      observation “That once upon a time, this earth was No-Man’s land, that other
      explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession…”
      now appears remarkably prescient!

      4. There may be a purely historical dimension to some of the mythology
      surrounding the “Feathered-Serpent.” We know that a brilliant Toltec prince
      named Topilzin Quétzalcoatl, who reigned at Tula (ca. A.D. 850-900) and is
      credited with introducing a variety of useful arts and knowledge, was removed
      from power by a jealous faction in the ruling dynasty and forced into exile.

      5. Additionally, by sheer chance, the year in which the Conquistadores
      arrived, 1519, marked the end of a 52-year Aztec calendric cycle, at which time
      miraculous events were supposed to happen, including the return of figures
      like Quétzalcoatl.

      6. My own view here coincides with that of David Jacobs, who suspects that
      the Nordics are more probably what he calls “late-stage” human-alien
      hybrids, and thus not the dominant alien species. Nevertheless, they do seem
      integrated into the Alien Raj, at least culturally, and it’s not impossible
      to suggest that one or more of them became disenchanted with “establishment”
      policy re the “natives” and rebelled against the Raj.

      I answered Professor Littleton on this subject before in the following
      Email exchange.

      Art Greenfield

      Note to moderator, If the photos don’t come through here, Email me and
      I will resend this.

      Hi Art,

      First of all, I?m thoroughly familiar with the full text from which I
      took Charles Fort?s ?I think we?re property?? It?s one of the
      epigraphs in my novel (the other is ?Clarke?s Law?). And yes, I agree
      with Fort that we?ve been ?fought over? in the past, just as the
      British and French fought over control of India in the 18th century.
      Indeed, there?s an abundance of mythological (and some archaeological)
      evidence?the Titanomachy in Greek mythology, the war between Odin, et
      al., and the Frost Giants in Scandinavian myth, and the conflict
      between Lucifer and Yahweh in the Old Testament, to mention but a few
      examples?that two distinct alien societies fought a devastating
      ?colonial war? for hegemony over this planet some seven or eight
      thousand years ago, and that there was almost certainly a great deal
      of ?collateral damage.? One set of combatants could well have been the
      Reptoids; the other probably the Grays. I strongly suspect that this
      war ended in something of a stalemate, although it?s also possible
      that the Reptoids beat the Grays and thus became the dominant alien
      species, at least on this planet.

      But?and this is a very big ?but??I see no clear evidence that either
      the Reptoids or the Grays have used Earth as a source of food. Nor is
      there clear evidence that the ?Alien Raj,? as I call it, has ever
      allied itself with any specific human community. To be sure, they?ve
      exploited a variety of planetary resources, including water and
      electric power, and human DNA has been harvested systematically, both
      to produce hybrids and for reasons that are not yet clear, for
      millennia. Moreover, on several occasions since 1950, representatives
      of the ?Alien Raj? appear to have contacted the leaders of the U.S.
      and other technologically advanced nations, and agreements seem to
      have between worked where by, in exchange for some high-tech
      ?trinkets,? they received carte blanche to abduct human ?subjects,?
      mutilate animals, etc. But this is hardly an alliance. Rather, it?s
      more analogous to the Dutch ?buying? Manhattan Island.

      I sincerely doubt whether the aliens, of whatever variety, are out to
      harm us intentionally, any more than ethical human researchers
      intentionally harm their lab animals. Sure, on occasion some creatures
      must be sacrificed if a research project is to be successful; the same
      probably holds for the ?Alien Raj.? In short, IMHO, they?re neither
      ?angels,? who are here to help us achieve a higher level of
      ?spirituality??a word I detest?nor ?demons,? which regularly eat our
      flesh. Rather, their behavior seems more akin to that of a consortium
      of human naturalists and enlightened entrepreneurs, who are managing a
      wilderness area. They periodically band ?subject? animals so as to
      trace their migration routes, and, at the same time, carefully exploit
      the region?s resources in such a way as to cause minimal damage to the
      local flora and fauna. Of course, not all such persons are
      enlightened, as Bush?s callous attitude toward the environment
      abundantly demonstrates, and I?m sure there are some Bush-like aliens
      who couldn?t care less about us and out habitats. But the ?Raj?s?
      basic policy for the last ten millennia or so seems to have been
      fairly benign, all things considered.

      Of course, I don?t like being a ?colonial subject,? any more than
      Gandhi, et al. like being subjects of the British Raj. And I wish we
      could figure out an effective way to throw off the alien yoke. But at
      the same time I really don?t thing they?ve been eating us, making
      alliances with counties like North Korea, or subliminally
      ?controlling? the left in the country, whose antagonism to Bush and
      his insane war is extremely well founded.

      Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus

      Hi Scotty,

      I find it rather amusing that you used one of Charles Fort’s quotes,
      but overlooked his quotes that have a bearing on the subject at hand.
      There is an interesting premise written by Charles Fort in 1931. Fort
      was one of the first ufologists and a paranormal investigator
      extraordinaire and wrote extensively on the subject in the 1920s and 30s:
      “I think we are property. I should say we belong to something; that
      once upon a time this Earth was no-man’s land, that other worlds
      explored and colonized here and fought among themselves for
      possession, but now it’s owned by something; that something owns this
      Earth–all others warned off.”
      –Charles Hoy Fort in 1931
      Another troubling statement of Charles Fort: “I believe we are fished
      for. It may be we’re highly esteemed by super-epicures somewhere.”

      Epicure-a person who has cultivated tastes, as in food or wine; a
      connoisseur. The Reptoids living amongst the Maya had a taste for
      fresh human hearts. We need to take action to insure they will no
      longer come here for a hearty meal.

      Observe the Reptoid God eating human hearts. You will notice he has
      three-toed Raptor feet, just like the footprints from the Reptoid
      wearing the invisibility/zoom suit encountered at the Skinwalker
      Ranch. Observe the fashionable head gear. The Mayan artists have
      faithfully reproduced a long range antenna array. That system beats
      cell phones all to hell. They just need a craft parked in hover mode
      above to keep in touch with each other.

      No, I am not saying we copied their antennae.

      You being an anthropology prof, I thought you were supposed to know
      “where all the skeletons were buried,” culturally and mythologically
      speaking. It’s even in your job description:
      Scott is a cultural anthropologist who teaches courses in comparative
      mythology and folklore, the anthropology of religion, cognitive
      anthropology, and Japanese culture. He has published extensively on
      Indo-European mythology and the origin and distribution of the
      Arthurian and Holy Grail legends, and has done ethnographic field work
      in a Tokyo neighborhood, with emphasis on the local Shinto shrine

      Now I know they had the same “dragons” in the Orient, even though in
      the modern world they are considered to be quaint myths. Well, the
      myths have come back and bit us in the ass. Myths don’t leave fresh
      Raptor footprints at the Skinwalker ranch..
      I must agree with you that previously, our Repto Sapien cousins did
      have a Raj-like system that subjugated all major Earth cultures. Their
      images in the form of statues and temple paintings, etc., are found in
      virtually every major ancient Earth culture.
      It was not like the British-Raj.

      They were not practicing colonialism in a quest for minerals,
      materials, cheap labor, or financial tribute. The only raw material
      they needed and wanted from Earth was raw meat. Carnivorous Reptoids,
      the food chain, oh my. I think it is very amusing that you think I am
      a right-winger because I point out the perfidy of the useful idiots
      who just happen to be leftists, communists, nazis, and worse. After I
      realized how the Reptoids used political movements to start wars as a
      harvesting tool, I became apolitical, and am in fact working on
      designing a private business corporate-type organization that would
      replace all political parties and movements, be run as a profitable
      entity that paid its own way, and actually paid all citizens dividends
      while it carried out all governmental functions. No more taxes. No
      more expensive nonproductive bureaucracy. Would you like that? No more
      bitter elections. No more left or right. The Reptoids couldn’t divide
      us using politics or state religions to cause wars for meat anymore.
      No more “cannon fodder = Reptoid fodder.” You mentioned “stupid war.”
      All wars are stupid. War, what is it good for? Is it evil or not? Why
      do the same groups like communists and Muslim Jihadists keep starting
      wars? Take the communists, please. LOL The communists have been the
      “Useful Idiot” hand puppets of the Repto Sapiens since 1917 and the
      Jihadists since Mohammed. Whether the Repto Sapien’s entire food
      gathering operation is evil or not is another matter. Instigating wars
      amongst our people so the Reps can retrieve dead meat is analogous to
      our ancestors stampeding buffalo herds over a cliff so that they could
      gather meat.

      Logistically, it’s the easiest method to satisfy demand that the
      Reptoids can use here.

      Logistics:1 : the aspect of military science dealing with the
      procurement,maintenance, and transportation of military matériel,
      facilities, and personnel.
      2 : the handling of the details of an operation.

      Otherwise, they would have to personally take on the
      logistics of our own cattle and meat-packing industry. They would have
      to breed, raise, feed, transport, and slaughter “cattle” (us) using
      their own personnel and operating their own farms,
      transportation system, and meat-packing plants. That industry is very
      labor intensive. Ask a cowboy or meat cutter. It is hard dirty work. I
      know. I worked as a meat cutter for two years. The Reps just found a
      way to get us to do all the dirty work and slaughter ourselves for them.

      All the Reps have to do is pick up dead bodies from battlefields.

      Our murdering each other in war for no good reason is evil. The Repto
      Sapiens causing it to happen, technically, is not evil because
      they are doing it for food gathering purposes, just like we slaughter
      our own cattle. It is the equivalent of us getting cows to slaughetr
      each other so that all we have to do is go pick up the meat that we
      will be using for food. The food chain is not evil. The way the Reps
      do it to us is kind of unfair to us. We are capable of raising
      sufficient cattle to meet the Reps periodic food needs every 50 years
      when their migration fleet stops by. That is what I am working for. WE
      raise food for them, and trade it to them in exchange for trade goods,
      technology, knowledge, etc, that we can use. However, they are
      hardheaded and set in their ways so we will need to negotiate from a
      position of military strength on a parity with them. They are not
      stupid and understand the true purpose of war.


    • Anonymous

      President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims
      Ex-President met with extra-terrestrials on three separate occasions to New Mexico air base
      Eisenhower and FBI officials organised the meetings by sending out ‘telepathic messages’

      Last updated at 7:58 AM on 15th February 2012


      Former American President Dwight D. Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, a former US government consultant has claimed.

      The 34th President of the United States met the extra terrestrials at a remote air base in New Mexico in 1954, according to lecturer and author Timothy Good.
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      Churchill is said to have discussed how to deal with UFO sightings with Eisenhower.


    • antigray

      Hi Anon, That Eisenhower story was traced back to someone with no credibility. The aliens don’t work that way. If they wanted to influence Eisenhower they would have done it retrocausally by jumping back in time like they did with other key people they wanted to control.

    • chairman of the board

      thanks for comments :)

    • Anonymous

      wtf… what a word wall antigone…

    • Beedlejuice

      Well…..I say screw the Bat Guana and the Coffee we get here on earth, make the Space Amazons squirt and temble…..we’ll own their space butts in no time flat and we’ll have them doing the dishes in no time flat!!!!!!!


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