$1 Trillion Cost of Climate Change
Major issues related to climate change need to understood for betterment of humanity and the planet, according to a scientist, who contacted this author with his statement this week showing, among other points, that the cost of climate change is $1 trillion.
What many are confusing is a fundamental difference between weather and climate, according to Dr. Paul Brown. Weather and climate are different, although climate impacts weather, says Brown.
“Although weather is the day-to-day, local variation of atmospheric conditions, and climate is the regional and global patterns of weather over decades, climate has its daily manifestations through its effects on weather,” stated Dr. Paul Brown this week in a written statement Skyped to Deborah Dupré
Brown is keen to show daily effects of humans on climate, and vice versa, daily effects of climate change on humans, he says.
Paul Brown, PhD is a retired neuroscientist. Educated at MIT, University of Chicago, and Cornell University, he is author of Notes from a Dying Planet, on overpopulation, mass extinction, and global warming. He is also the primary author of three other books; numerous book chapters and over 60 peer-reviewed scientific publications in his field. In 2010, Brown ran for House of Delegates of West Virginia as an independent candidate to pressure for renewable energy solutions.
Extreme weather, the new normal due to accelerating climate change.
In today’s news, hurricane-force winds are pounding Britain, and rain continues to douse the country, with continuing floods increasing the numbers of refugees. Brown says this is no surprise and refers to Bill McKinnen, UK storms, and the cost of year-round global warming.
“Bill McKibben, head of 350.org, argues this should be no surprise. Extreme weather caused by global warming is now not only global, it is year-round, and has cost the US $1.15 trillion over the last 30 years,” Brown says..
As The Guardian reported, “A high of 108mph was recorded in Aberdaron [in Wales] on Wednesday as the Met Office issued a rare red warning for Wales and north-west England, indicating people should take action because the winds were so strong that there was a likely risk to life.”
“This disaster comes on the back of historic flooding that has left 1,135 homes flooded and 100,000 homes without electricity,” Brown says.
Kirk Waite, Met Office forecaster, said that, although the winds will die down tomorrow, wintry rain is expected to bring ice and attendant hazards.
“One man near Chippenham, Wiltshire was electrocuted,” Brown reports in a list of what he says are climate change-related tragedies and inconvenience he says we need to get use to. “Virgin Trains announced that it would deposit all customers at the nearest station and suspend service. A suspension bridge closed for the first time ever. People are being told not to travel unless absolutely necessary. Part of the M6 highway and many smaller roads have been closed, and 100,000 homes and businesses lost power in Ireland.”
“The Electricity Supply Board said it was the worst mass power outage to hit Ireland for more than 15 years,” according to The Guardian.
Why is it called climate change? it’s global
“This is the kind of crazy weather that scientists said will mark the advent of climate change in its early stages,” McKibben said on Democracy Now! McKibben. “And it should be the warning that we need to actually do something, but so far our leaders haven’t taken up that challenge.
“What happens now is pretty much every day, someplace on this planet, we are breaking records that have stood for centuries, or in the case of California now, we think perhaps millennia.
“None of this should come as a surprise if people have been paying attention,” McKibben says. He wrote his first book on the science of climate change 25 years ago, reporting that the events we are seeing now are what scientists predicted back then. “They’re happening somewhat more quickly and on a somewhat larger scale, mostly because scientists are, by their nature, conservative and underpredict. But the fear of scientists is palpable. That’s why so many of them are out there getting arrested to stop things like the Keystone pipeline, speaking out in all the ways that they can think of.”
McKibben pointed out that the media have presented climate change as a matter of opinion, whereas it is a firmly established scientific fact, and politicians are in the pockets of fossil fuel industries so government action has been quite inadequate.
“He sees hope that people are figuring climate change out for themselves, and points to a Yale study that shows ’81 percent of Americans thought the government should be taking aggressive action, even if it came at economic cost’,” Brown said.
[Watch the McKibben interview above: This Should Not Come as a Surprise": Global Extreme Weather from U.S. to Sochi.]
Why is called climate change? it’s year-round
“We have to understand that climate change is affecting all weather patterns, regardless of the season, Jeff Masters, meteorologist at Weather Underground, told Democracy Now! ”Yes, winter still occurs. But we do expect climate change to affect jet stream patterns in winter storms.
Now, in particular, this kind of very unusual jet stream pattern that’s been so persistent is something that could arise out of climate change. We don’t often see the jet stream lock into place like this and not budge for a period of months. And we make that more likely—is one research avenue being explored now—if we remove a lot of sea ice in the Arctic, warming up the Arctic more than the rest of the planet. That can have impacts on the jet stream, causing it to slow down and to not move quite as quickly, and lock in place for these extended periods like we’ve seen. (Jeff Masters, Democracy Now! interview)
Why is it called climate change? it’s long-term
Brown points to a story by Rebecca Kaplan for CBS News: DHS assistant secretary for policy David Heyman testified Wednesday on extreme weather events before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. CBS reports that “in 2011, 14 different natural catastrophes exceeded a billion dollars each and there were 98 presidentially declared disasters, a record number.
Heyman cited Munich Re, the world’s largest risk insurer, when he said that the total economic losses sustained in the U.S. in the past 30 years totaled $1.15 trillion.”
Sources: Dr. Paul Brown, UK storms: Hurricane-force winds wreak chaos as floods continue; Extreme weather has cost US $1.15 trillion in the last 30 years; “This Should Not Come as a Surprise”: Global Extreme Weather from U.S. to Sochi; Climate Change Affecting Weather Patterns Regardless of Season. NSA.
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Hard to refute real science – but many try, and many are paid to do so. When I see what Koch pays climate deniers, it tells me a lot about this debate and why it’s as important for the 1% to ensure many deny the truth. All the easier to kill you with, my dear.
Thank you, Dr. Brown, for this story.
The term “denier” is very rude Deborah. It is used to convey all of the connotations that come when it’s placed after, the fictitious, holocaust.
InLikeFlint has posted some real science and yes it is hard to refute. Robust empirical data no less. And just where is it in this article, Deborah, or Dr Browns evidence? You can’t make that claim and not expect to be laughed at for an opinion piece.
here take this pill it will unstress you
I say laugh you say stress. That’s odd: you are listening to the wrong cranial voice, perhaps?
The good news is that there is hope! According to biologist Allan Savory, desertification is the source of climate change. Then he tells us how we can reverse this present dangerous trend.
It might surprise you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
Hope you like steak.
Here’s some more real science – temperatures over the last 400 thousand years or so:
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Still think any warming humans might cause will stop that cycle? I would hope we could, but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part. lol
The Global Warming hoax is more about the carbon TAX then climate change, just as Obamacare is more about the penalty TAX then healthcare. Fracking is more about corporate profits then energy independents . Always watch where the money is going to get the truth. Well meaning people get caught up in the trap of unscrupulous scientists and politicians who benefit by grants payoffs and bribes. Don’t be led down the rabbit hole by the deceivers .
The so called tree huggers stared a global wide movement to have clean renewable energy for everyone. Which has subsequently been hijacked by politics including the UN, into forcing their ‘rack em and stack em’ cattle treatment of the human population, based on green issues, precisely because it’s what we all wanted to hear.. their doing something about it, that is.
The problems is one of monopolies by the few. If you notice you have a few people who monopolise everything so they can keep everyone impoverished and themselves in the lap of luxury. Their puppet politicians, (all of them) are bribed, their word for it is ‘lobby’ government, for the purpose of creating legislation in their favour. Politicians are whores who will tell anyone anything to get their vote, then once they have it, they do what ever their puppet masters bribe them to do. Which is of course to keep everyone impoverished and themselves in the lap of luxury.
Climate change is a certainty, it’s about the one thing that is, seeing as the climate never stays the same from moment to moment. Global warming on the other hand, is a total scam. Easy to spot when you look at the bigger picture. We are c20’000 years into an average c25’000 year interglacial period, within a so far 50 million year long ice age.
The climate does not swap from one to the other in a steady rhythm, but is more like ripples on waves on swells and all variants in between. In the bigger picture we are on a ripple at the bottom of the trough. So global warming, I wish.
WELL, it seems our little ‘Believer’ censored this post!
Here it is ……………………….again!
Yes, Pix, just like priests, these “Climate Change” politicians. What grandiose crap; selling “climate change as if “it is YOUR FAULT”! Humans affect nothing of substance when it comes to climate and the changes that happen because of nature itself.
A significant volcano eruption happened in Indonesia last week that put into the upper atmosphere more gases than these money shills even care to mention. As to climate change itself, the prime mover IS THE SUN!
Much greater civilizations with much more advanced technology than now (i.e. Egypt) have been completely annihilated by SUDDEN climate changes that they were helpless to stop. No amount of wishful thinking or “Carbon Taxing” will stop it! Getting flooded by the ocean storms? THEN MOVE YOUR “privileged” butts AWAY FROM THE SEA SHORE!
And now, a “new vein” of persecution begins (just like “not believing” in a white-skinned human man as “god”; denying that a Caucasian male human is ‘god’. And those “priest” maniacs used to burn people at the stake to death for that “offense”) “Climate Change Deniers”.
Tonight on the evening news, I hear Sec. of State John Kerry say (paraphrased) that the current wild weather in England and the U.S. is caused by this “climate change” and that “deniers” of this “fact” are a “problem in making progress” about “climate change, in effect a “weapon of mass destruction”.
What devious, deceitful, lying, vicious, violent, and HOARDING mothers these so-called “human beings” are!
I am starting to seriously think that ALL human “Leaders’ on earth and ALL billionaires should be subjected to mandatory DNA testing (under threat of force with weapons, if denied) to see FOR CERTAIN that, indeed, THEY ARE IN FACT HUMAN BEINGS!
As for most of the people around us, well Pix, you and I both know for a fact, that THEY WILL BELIEVE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THEY ARE TOLD ENOUGH TIMES. In fact, they will become “little parrots” and “repeat it back to us”, just like they were taught by the “Telly”.
Pathetic, sickening, but totally true!
The Logical Absurdity of Climate Change Denial
http://originalearthblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/the-logical-absurdity-of-climate-change-denial/
Why Climate Deniers Have No Scientific Credibility: Only 1 of 9,136 Recent Peer-Reviewed Authors Rejects Global Warming
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
No censoring from me, my friend. Really! Must have just been a glitch – unless profanity was in your original post. I appreciate both sides if this debate – although real science is more interesting to me personally. I tried to find science in your comment, but must have missed it.
Have you wondered why Koch brothers have paid millions to individuals internet news sites to maintain climate change denial? Do you really think these 1% NWO fossil fuel pirates are doing that for the good of humanity?
According the Vostok ice core data it’s due credit there would appear to be a 100,000 year cycle with a 10,000 year interglacial. By the way our current holocene has been going on roughly 12,000 years and the coming ice maximum sits at about three seconds before twelve.
Not sure where you got your numbers from Pix but i’d be interested all the same.
The issue is not global warming but desertification through poor natural resource management. Desertification is the real threat to human existence. Look at a Google topical map. Notice the amount of desertification. Greenbelts are dwindling. This is not from the use of fossil fuels. The majority of the world’s population are huddled in those greenbelts. Then the top soil in those greenbelts is being denuded by Big Agra Biz.
In NorCal, the BLM land flourishes when ranchers are permitted to graze their livestock from one place to another. Then look at Nat’l Parks and Forests where the prevailing conventional conservation wisdom is to let Nature take it’s course while at the same time removing natural predators that drive wild herds to move on. It desertifies! The full system all works well with roving herds of herbivores synergistically keeping the circle of life well-rounded. Please watch the above linked video in my previous comment.
The Global Warming claptrap is a ruse away from the real villains: power hungry land managers.
The blindness is mind-boggling.
How sad that so many of BIN’s readers have swallowed the propaganda of the polluters hook, line and sinker.
As some of your readers note, land misuse has been a very important contributing factor since the late stone age, but ignoring greenhouse gases and overpopulation will result in a world that is unlivable for humans and the species we depend on. Literally tens of thousands of dedicated scientists attest with hard-won data and analysis that climate change is real and manmade. No one has produced a plausible alternative that accounts for all the facts.
Unfortunately scientific progress doesn’t come from popularity polls, religious beliefs, or wishful thinking. If it did, we would still depend on phlogiston, Aristotelian mechanics, and creationism for our thinking about the world. As a result we wouldn’t modern chemistry, physics, and biology.
The up side would be that we would probably not have poisoned our environment and ourselves as severely, and we would not be overpopulated – although we might still have the current sixth mass extinction since we were in the extinction business long before we invented science.
The down side is that we would probably still destroy ourselves because we would never have developed a science of ecology or human cooperativity. Neither science is well enough developed or incorporated into our lives.
Pollution and overpopulation are definitely big problems and could kill us all if we don’t fix things and soon. Our technology of fossil fuel use, ultimately controlled by the same people who are promoting the global warming meme, is the problem. Without an energy generation technology that curbs pollution drastically, we’ll sooner or later pollute ourselves out of existence.
Is there another way to produce energy to power our activities that doesn’t produce pollution? Yes, there is. Unfortunately, that tech has been suppressed by the very same elite who own most of the banks, petro-chem companies and major manufacturing companies, among other things. They don’t want to lose the riches that result from controlling energy production, energy usage and energy credits (money.)
This other suppressed technology could power the world without pollution and since it is so inexpensive, be used to clean up the existing pollution that we presently suffer from. We could have been using it for the last 100 years if the controlling elite weren’t so greedy. To blame everyone else on the planet for its problems is short-sighted, IMO.
Science has advanced but it has also been stifled. Those who control fossil fuel technology have have been caught rewriting history and excluding some critical developments. Probably the most critical development was the discovery that electrical energy could be transmitted via the Earth without wires with very low loss and this particular energy was different than “normal” electrical energy.
“Di-electricity” is another term for the type of energy that Nikola Tesla called, “radiant energy” and is the type he discovered how to manipulate. He was written out of the history books and his method of transmitting this energy wirelessly was suppressed, unfortunately. Why was this?
A little know fact about Tesla’s di-electricity is that each receiver of the energy in this scheme worked by being in resonance with the transmitter and there was no limit to the number of receivers. In other words, the first receiver had a cost for the energy but any other receiver did not. Think of the implications of that statement for a bit. Yes, it meant free electricity and self-looping was a possibility.
Is it any wonder why the people who control money and energy now want to reduce the Earth’s population? Their scam of suppressing “free energy” has kept them rich and powerful and living like kings. But, the price paid was pollution and misery for the masses who had to work to pay for their free ride. They know that continuing on this path is death for them and us. So, they propose to get rid of us and only they will survive. That’s the deal they are pushing on us and if we don’t wise up and soon, they’ll make good on their plans.
Knowledge is the key to survival and knowing how to generate energy without pollution is the ultimate knowledge we could have at this moment in time. All we have to do to attain this knowledge is break free of the control of the elite who promote global warming that stifles our knowledge and progress.
Interesting notion, but sadly not practical, or it might be in use. Contrary to current conspiracy theories, the Tesla free energy concept has not been suppressed as part of some sinister plot. Anyone can find it in books and on the Web. Our dastardly government and corporations certainly have the ability to suppress information, though.
And contrary to some critics, it isn’t a perpetual motion machine that would violate the laws of thermodynamics.
Many so-called “free energy” devices are practicable means of capturing naturally available energy that is free like sunlight, hydroelectric, tidal, geothermal, or wind power. These are also called renewable energy devices and are not only advisable (hydro has its problems), they are in use and affordable today. There are lots of devices that can tap available energy and convert it to useful form (e.g., electricity), always at the cost of lost energy in the form of entropy.
Other potential sources such as naturally occurring magnetic and electrical fields and radiation can be converted to electricity, with entropic losses, but they are so weak that they couldn’t make a dent in the multi-terawatt demand. They would have no environmental or other advantage over renewable energy sources already in use.
Some Web sites point to stored energy such as the spin of the electron as free energy, but while storage can be essentially perpetual, machines that produce work cannot do so without an input of more energy than that which they produce.
Tesla “free energy” is real, but not practical. His proposal to harvest cosmic rays was misguided, because they are so energetic that almost all of them pass through all obstacles, and the yield would be too low. His suggestion of collecting static charge is impractical because the cost per kilowatt would be far more expensive than for existing, practical methods. Zero-point energy suffers from a similar disadvantage: not a high enough energy density, therefore not practical.
Havesting energy from lightning might someday be practical, but not yet.
Wireless transmission of energy is too dangerous. We are already immersed in too much electromagnetic radiation and wireless transmission would increase it many orders of magnitude. That’s why beaming energy via microwaves from satellites or the moon is totally misguided. Even high-voltage power lines using Tesla’s alternating current are dangerous health hazards to us and animals. We would be much better off using Edison’s direct current, which is feasible today although it wasn’t in their time.
Bottom line: the low-hanging fruit that we can harvest today for all our energy needs are the affordable renewables already in use. The Tesla alternatives are non-starters. Too bad.
Paul, to be polite, all you have said above is just a repeat of the same tired arguments that the elite have told us with since the beginning of them putting a meter on our homes and selling us electricity. Anyone who has looked past the obfuscation that “authorities” in science have promulgated over the years knows that energy is available in huge quantities via the zero-point Ether, which is where the di-electric waves I talked about in my post vibrate.
Tesla’s discovery is not mentioned in any science textbooks used in schools. It has been suppressed, contrary to what you claim. Just like the fact that he invented radio instead of Marconi, which is who I was wrongly taught in school was the inventor, means that they suppressed Tesla’s discoveries in the history books as well as in science textbooks. I didn’t even know that Tesla discovered AC power generation and invented most of our present electrical devices and florescent lighting systems when I was in school. Sure, there are books now that contain these facts. But, try bringing this up in the classroom and the instructors will quickly try to pull the wool over your eyes, much like you are trying to do to the readers here, Paul. Come on dude… we’re not that stupid anymore.
What Tesla found that is suppressed was an effect that could not be shielded by a Faraday Cage. Unlike any other “normal” electromagnetic waves, this was a wave produced by his spark-gap experiments that could not be blocked. Numerous experiments he did confirmed the existence of these waves. They were different than normal electromagnetic waves. Tesla later found that if he pumped the electrical ground of an electromagnetic system, he could produce these types of waves and receive them at ANY distance from the transmitter by merely sticking a receiver in the earth.
Your claim that he was trying to capture cosmic rays or static electricity are fallacies. He was not trying to capture these kinds of rays or charge. He was trying to capture “radiant energy” or these di-electric waves that could not be blocked, as mentioned above, which vibrate at right angles to our normal dimensions of space/time. He envisioned that these waves were naturally produced in the solar system, mostly by the Sun, but also by the Earth and from everything in space. His artificial method could produce them, too.
BTW, at this point I think that mentioning the fact that the laws of thermodynamics assume that most electrical systems are closed, but unfortunately for those so-called laws, there are not any “closed” systems in this Universe. Everything is connected in one way or another. That’s a big strike against any arguments that say “free energy” is a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. Not that you are claiming such a thing, but I just wanted to make that point clear.
Another reason I don’t believe your claims is because of other evidence provided by men who took Tesla’s work and expanded upon it. Some of these individuals were able to produce energy on demand from “nothing.” One of these was T. Henry Moray, who studied Tesla’s work and duplicated one of his radiant energy harvesting devices. Moray’s device was able to run many kilowatts worth of lights and electrical heaters that were plugged into a box of his custom designed electrical components that had just an aerial antenna attached to it. There are sworn affidavits that attest to these feats by more than a few knowledgeable people who were present for these demonstrations. Some of these demonstrations were even done in the wilderness to prove he was not harvesting energy from the city’s electrical grid in some way.
Your claim that zero-point energy doesn’t have enough energy density to be practical is laughable at best and downright misleading, at worst. FYI, there is enough energy in a cubic centimeter of space to boil all of Earth’s oceans away. That’s a tremendous amount of energy and all we have to do to get to it is design devices that work with the principles Tesla discovered.
It is too bad that men who stand to lose trillions of dollars in income from fossil fuels and the industries that grew around that decided long ago that anyone who constructs a Tesla device to harvest radiant energy is targeted for suppression and sometimes, elimination. It has happened countless times.
Fortunately, the hold these people have has slowly eroded and there are devices that are becoming available that take advantage of Tesla-like principles that finally enable mankind to gather energy from the wheel-works of nature, just like Tesla predicted.
Paul, your ideas are obsolete. You really need to catch up with current thinking in these matters. Otherwise, you’ll be left behind just like the elite and their fossil fuel industries. Don’t believe me? Just watch and see!
I guess by “elite” you mean scientists who know what they are talking about, many of whom actually do findTesla’s ideas interesting. But the notion of the ether was disproven conclusively first by Michelson and Morley in 1887 and many times since. Many great scientists, including Newton, incorporated the ether into their theories, but they were wrong.
A lot of so-called “discoveries” that didn’t pan out aren’t mentioned in science textbooks, except as examples of ideas that turned out to be wrong. Science advances by disproving wrong ideas. No shame in getting something wrong, it’s part of the process. Tesla deserves our admiration for the things he got right, like radio and alternating current, and I certainly learned about his role in both when I was in school.
I’m sorry you don’t know about his desire to capture cosmic rays and static electricity. Web sites extolling his ideas quote him directly on both.
Tesla’s spark gap experiments produced electromagnetic waves and maybe some particle radiation. The amount of energy that can be picked up by receivers is only a fraction of what is transmitted, of course, but he wanted to tap enormous reservoirs. You assert that “He was trying to capture “radiant energy” or these di-electric waves that could not be blocked, as mentioned above, which vibrate at right angles to our normal dimensions of space/time. He envisioned that these waves were naturally produced in the solar system, mostly by the Sun, but also by the Earth and from everything in space. His artificial method could produce them, too.” He may very well have been trying to do so, but there is no confirmation that he was right. He wasn’t a wizard, he was a human being, and his speculations were just that. Mind you, there is current interest in additional dimensions and “dark” matter and energy appear to make up around 95% of the universe.
Your reference to Moray is interesting. Apparently no one could prove it was a hoax, and there are indeed people who claim to have developed useful Tesla-like devices. I would be interested to see one and check out its innards. I recommend http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Thomas_Henry_Moray for interested readers. Thank you for your contributions to this conversation.
In any event, we have more than enough renewable energy and the technology to harvest it; it’s affordable, and environmentally safe. I wish you and your co-believers the best of lluck in developing a safe, affordable, and adequate technology using Tesla’s ideas, and I hope you can do so soon. In the meantime, we need to get moving on replacing fossil fuels with proven renewables until the Tesla technology is available at large enough scale.
Whatever alternative we push, I agree the biggest obstacle is the vested interests of corporations and governments and their massive misinformation campaigns.
But make no mistake, global warming is real, caused by burning carbon and land mismanagement (and ultimately, overpopulation) and it needs to be addressed immediately.
@InLikeFlint who said…
“Pollution and overpopulation are definitely big problems and could kill us all if we don’t fix things and soon.”
… you are overlooking the law of diminishing return my friend. There’ll come a point where there won’t be enough folk left to influence the survival of the remainder but yes pollution is a big problem.
No, Paul. The “elite” I am talking about are the Rothschild/Rockefeller cartel and their minions. You know, the people who actually run the planet and dictate to our politicians what to think and what laws to pass? You will never understand what is going on if you do not study up on this very elite group of super rich individuals and their corporations. They own most of the big banks, major petrochemical companies and pharmaceutical companies, among other things. They also control academia, the press (MSM) and most of our political systems.
FYI, the Michelson and Morley experiment did not “disprove” anything. In fact, it was a ruse and the results were fudged to eliminate the Aether as a viable concept. Here’s a quote you should have read before you parroted the standard disinformation that passes as science these days:
“Most extraordinary of all is the series of experiments carried out over a 30 year period by Dayton Miller, from 1906 to the mid 1930s, using far more accurate apparatus than Michelson and Morley and which clearly and consistently showed an ether drift effect. But these results contradicted Einstein and Relativity, so they were first ignored and later, after Miller’s death, made the subject of a campaign of denigration.
“The experiments of Michelson and Morley and of Dayton Miller, have been repeated and analysed in modern times by French engineer Maurice Allais, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Economic Science in 1988. It is primarily due to the work of Allais that Miller’s discoveries have been brought to a modern audience. For further details see Allais website [at the first link below.] The story of Dayton Miller and what happened to his findings has also been researched and told in considerable detail by Dr James De Meo, Director of the Orgone Biophysical Research Lab. His research paper can be found [at the second link below.]”
http://allais.maurice.free.fr/English/Science.htm
http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm
“The real facts were given in 1933 by Dayton C Miller who wrote, ‘The indicated effect was not zero; the sensitivity of the apparatus was such that the conclusions, published in 1887, stated that the observed relative motion of the earth and ether did not exceed one fourth of the earth’s orbital velocity. This is quite different from a null effect now so frequently imputed to this experiment by writers on relativity.’”
Source – http://www.cellularuniverse.org/AA2MM_Aether.htm
I actually did the research on the Aether some time ago and was satisfied that something was amiss and so I didn’t rule it out like you were taught to do. That’s the game these elite people play, Paul. They play for keeps and that means subverting the scientific establishment and the peer review process when crucial information will expose what they don’t want us to know.
And for the second time, Tesla was not trying to capture cosmic rays or static electricity. This information has been deliberately obfuscated to hide what he actually discovered. His experiments in Colorado proved that he found something different in regards to electromagnetic waves and his ideas were not speculations, as you claim.
BTW, you should peruse the PESWiki site a little more and check out the Top 5 Exotic Free Energy Technologies section. The products and companies listed there are either very close to market or are currently available to purchase in some limited locales:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies
Finally, global warming is a phoney construct of the elite and it is part of their plan to de-industrialize first world countries, collect phoney carbon taxes to make themselves richer than they already are and to gain power over the masses for depopulation purposes. It is part of their New World Order (NWO) ploy they are so obsessed with. As usual with these people, it is the exact opposite of what is actually going to happen to our climate in the future.
Ask anybody about interglacials – they don’t last. By all indications, we’re in for some significant cooling over the next few decades and we could even have another little ice age soon. The real Ice Age might be far off in the future, but it could also start within the coming years. We just don’t know at this point.
I’ll leave this subject with this slightly edited quote, which is precisely what the elite think about global warming:
“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” – The First Global Revolution (1991,) published by the Club of Rome, (a globalist think tank.)
Readers: I know many of you are sane and educated enough to realize that contrarians like Mayhem, Lifels and InLkeFlint are dead wrong in their denial of the threats we face as a civilization and a species, and I hope my refutations of their claims are useful.
As for you who prefer to believe that the majority of scientists are conspirators working for a global power elite, I sympathize with you to some extent: you are losers looking for excuses for not coping well with the realities of this world. You like the thrill of siding with other losers who oppose success out of envy. There is no hope of bringing you out of it. You’re much like white supremacists – and at least as dangerous, which I suppose makes you proud.
I don’t have the time or resources to respond to all the trash being heaped on Dupre and me here. I’m outnumbered here. So this will be my last contribution to this discussion.
Mayhem: Your diminishing returns comment is stupid, like your other ones. Obviously, just as we should have stopped multiplying a long time ago, we will need to stop reducing population at some point. As for likening scientific consensus to a popularity poll, you show a complete misunderstanding of the scientific method – they aren’t remotely the same. Your other comments remain just as ridiculous as always, and don’t deserve replies. Just keep up your ignorant jeering and you’ll keep losing sympathizers.
Lifels: If you look at the warming trend over the last hundred years, you will see similar plateaus in surface temperature, but the overall trend has remained: accelerating warming. As you probably know but suppress knowledge thereof, recent scientific papers have shown that the planet is still warming, although at the moment enough of the heat is being absorbed by the oceans that surface temperatures are not changing significantly. The oceans have been absorbing roughly 95% of the heat all along, so fluctuations which are just a small fraction of that can affect surface warming considerably.
InLikeFlint (the original phrase was “in like Flynn,” in case you didn’t know): you persist in bucking the real science. I won’t get sucked into your paranoid conspiracy arguments – who knows, paranoids are sometimes right.
You lose credibility regarding Michelson Morley. Their work has been confirmed repeatedly, and persistent belief in ether is like belief in phlogiston or vital spirits. The sources you cite are far less credible than the main body of physics literature. With ether, there arises a serious problem in Maxwell’s equations, the foundation for electromagnetic theory, and with Einstein’s Special Relativity, as well as other well-established foundations of modern physics. Some contrarians simply say those theories are wrong, although they are much better documented than the alternatives they propose. Well, good luck to them; the rest of us shouldn’t hold our breath.
You lose all credibility when citing the Orgone Institute. Orgone energy (from orgasms)? Come on. As for the Allais effect, his work in physics was particularly lame, and his results were amenable to much more mundane explanations. His winning the Nobel in Economics is about as high a recommendation as Obama winning the Peace Prize. After all, good old father of neoliberalism Milton Friedman, who really was part of a sinister conspiracy, won the same prize. Allais never came close to serious recognition for his amateur physics.
I don’t believe you’ve done any credible research on the so-called ether. I’ve checked the other sources you cite, and although interesting and some are possibly of some merit, they don’t support your wild claims of ether or usable zero-point energy. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE PART OF THE POLLUTERS’ CONSPIRACY TO DENY GLOBAL WARMING AND OFFER UNREALISTIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES. Now there’s a real conspiracy that’s been well documented, including the corruption of government with billions of dollars from the polluters, and myths of clean coal, carbon capture, and clean natural gas.
To end on a polite note: I once again thank you for introducing us to your strange world and wish you the best of luck on developing useful, safe, and affordable Tesla-like energy technology up and running. As for you conspiracy theory about global warming, it is doing serious harm to the future of humanity, which makes you a criminal.
Clearly there is no point discussing this further with you or the rest of your motley crew.
Readers: Notice that Paul is now lying by trying to claim that myself and some of the others in this discussion are denying that there are climatic threats. That is absolutely not true and it is pure BS on Paul’s part.
I’ve been warning that a little ice age will absolutely devastate civilization and a full blown ice age will decimate many species, including man. That’s the true future we face, ladies and gentlemen. History says so from lots of irrefutable ice core temp records.
If we as a species ignore this climatic threat, there will be much suffering and death. We need to start preparing now for what is to come. Real science says the Sun is the main controlling factor for climate temperatures. Low solar activity means low temps. Just like the Maunder Minimum of sunspots precipitated the Little Ice Age, then another Maunder-like lull in sunspots will presage another little ice age. That’s the lesson of history.
I’m just trying to wake people up to those facts. The only thing I deny is the fake global warming threat. The Earth is cooling and has been for a long time. It is in the graphs I keep posting. It has been warmer for most of the last 10,000 years than today, in fact. This is what the real science says, not the fake stuff Paul is promoting.
See?
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Oh, Paul. BTW, the phrase, “In Like Flint,” is the name of a 1967 movie staring James Coburn, who you will notice is my avatar. In fact, that image is from that movie, albeit modified into a more cartoonish style in my image editor. So, how can I give you credence when it comes to “real science” if you can’t even figure simple things like that out? Who’s the loser, now? LoL
Paul, you lose all credibility parroting the global warming BS of the global elite. They have admitted they made up this crappe in their own documents, no less. Also, I’m sorry you didn’t follow up on Dayton Miller’s work that proves Michelson-Morley wrong. Too bad for you, since you’ll forever be misinformed.
You will be the criminal when the cold weather hits and you’ve been telling everyone it was getting warmer when in fact another little ice age is on the way. Jeez, it is so pathetic that you believe that AGW BS. When you are proven wrong and the world is descending into the next ice age, remember who told you it was coming.
@paul brown PhD… You’re whack bro! I don’t have any sympathizers unlike yourself who used to claim he had “readers”. They were his and nothing less; anyone in need of a link?
Anyone reading this can see you, paul brown, do the big wind bag, prefaced with a disclaimer or three, short on evidence and long on rhetoric. I hardly need bother given how easy it is to notice the bad smell that lingers on you.
I taunt you again as we witness the lettered fleeing the learned – or – come back and debate. We’ve only just started and i for one am still holding back my best. I know some others are too because we’ve seen this before.
ps, i’m following paul into the gutter so don’t mind me. If you thought i was nice it’s because ya’ll don’t know me well enough.
@ paul brown who said…
“Unfortunately scientific progress doesn’t come from popularity polls, religious beliefs, or wishful thinking”
… yet you think it’s safe to claim a 97% consensus or general agreement. You, Sir, cannot have it both ways. Do you remember my concise definition of what science is? It’s eight words and is the only measure of science that withstands all scrutiny.
Don’t you even know how the term “Greenhouse” gas came about? It’s a trade name used for the gases pumped into greenhouses that cause plants to grow more prolifically. Frankly we can’t hardly make enough of the stuff.
I’m back, Paul, with my welding certificate and i’m going to test your PhD for you, again. I did AGW last time we met so this time i’d like to embarrass you over your claim of over population. Then i’ll ramble on in order that we don’t have to go through the same 12 steps as before. Remember? You accused me of saying pollution was good and pitchforks work best for loading babies on to the truck of doom.
Righty then: Divide the population into the Earths surface area and try to tell me there’s not 18 acres each. Sure a third of the planet is desert so we really only have 12 acres each that is arable. Hopefully the 6 acres we can’t grow on is coastal eh?
Okay lets do “climate affects weather” as well. Certainly there is climate change and ‘climate’ is a measure of ‘weather’ over time, we agree on that point. That climate effects weather is a cart before the horse argument and thus beneath a PhD let alone someone who barely graduated High School, me. To labour the point: Climate data is only weather added up over time and very often smoothed out or otherwise massaged, mainly for clarity. We probably also agree that desertification is caused by a lack of sustainable land use.
I love the photo of the windmills Dr Brown, don’t you? That’s the way to argue sustainability, not. Deborah has been told this before. You do know that wind farm technology produces a negative return on investment don’t you? And that they are detrimental to the environment for the noise they make and the bird strike casualties. There’s like 20,000 wind machines sitting idle and abandoned in America alone. When they are seen rotating laconically on a windless day they are actually consuming electricity. They are unable to stand still without damaging the blades and are therefore switched to motor mode to continue to spin.
Having said all that i want to be clear and state that personally i’m all about sustainability and living in a pristine environment. Our current rate of exploitation is inarguably whack. Not to mention peace, love and mung beans plus a global benevolent dictatorship wouldn’t go amiss.
Even the IPCC has been forced to admit there has been no global warming in 17 years.
No warming means no weather caused by warming.
And the predictions made decades ago of more and worse storms, melting ice sheets, and less snow, have ALL been proven false.
We don’t have hotter temperatures. Or worse storms. Or melting ice sheets. Or less snow.
We don’t have an increase in water vapor, which AGW models depend on.
No competent scientist accepted AGW theory. It was ALWAYS easily disproved. And now, nature has disproved it.
NO WARMING (AS THE IPCC ADMITS) MEANS NO WEATHER CAUSED BY WARMING.
Has someone discussed this with Mother Nature? She may want to say something about all of this during a show and tell scenario oh her terms. Don’t you just love it. Man kind telling the universe what the hell its going to do. Right, Noah How long can you dredge water?
Since Mankind is so grand can we address the drought in California first?
Yes someone did consult Nature. The reply was “Third coldest contiguous US winter on record”
amiwrong? And hello from NZ, enjoying a beautiful early Autumn (Fall) day.
that extreme cold is actually evidence of climate change.. as are other record breaking extremes..
https://www.graphicnews.org/pages/en/31317/AUSTRALIA_Hottest_year_on_record
record breaking floods, droughts, storms, almost on a daily basis.
there are plenty of people living with the effects of climate change right now, some areas may actually benefit.. others not so much. if youre experiencing pleasant weather – consider yourself lucky, but that is no excuse to deny science and common sense..
The Logical Absurdity of Climate Change Denial
http://originalearthblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/the-logical-absurdity-of-climate-change-denial/
Why Climate Deniers Have No Scientific Credibility: Only 1 of 9,136 Recent Peer-Reviewed Authors Rejects Global Warming
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
To Anonymous
that extreme cold is actually evidence of climate change..
(1) That’s ridiculous, insane, unfounded, and
(2) There has been no warming in 17 years. Therefore you are not seeing any weather that is caused by warming.
Yet it has been warmer for most of the last 10,000 years than it is today…
http://iceagenow.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/GISP-last-10000-years.png
… even though over 90% of computer models agree that the empirical data is wrong. Pull the other one.
Thank you. Your comment is very important because it demonstrates a common fallacy basic on a grave misunderstanding about the difference between weather and climate.
You’re right about weather – but that’s quite different to climate,, my friend.
Anything to back that up or should your opinion suffice. You too Deborah could provide something, anything, credible in this debate but are unable to.
You try me with your snide put down and i exercise patience with you but i will sadly follow you, too, right into the gutter if you would lead the way. And yet i’m one of your 112, woman! Way to treat a fan, not.
” Noah How long can you dredge water? ”
i think bill cosby actually said.. ” Noah How long can you tread water? “
Damn I just farted and I apologize for leaving a carbon track, burp. Opps
Here’s more bate for you. For some reason, my comment got deleted. Here it is again, my friends – and foes: Hard to refute real science – but many try, and many are paid to do so.
Seeing what Koch pays climate deniers tells a lot about this debate and why it’s important for the 1% to ensure many deny science. All the easier to kill you with, my dear.
Thank you, Mr. Brown, for this story.
The “science” you refer to predicted the Earth would get hotter and hotter. It said half the Greenland ice sheet would be gone by 2013. It said there would be “superstorms” of great intensity. It said “snowfalls will be a thing of the past” in the British Isles.
You are referring to people who don’t know what they are talking about. They are incompetent as to science.
And if you paid attention to actual science, you would know that.
It does take a skilled propagandist to convince people that their cold weather is caused by global warming, even as they admit there isn’t any global warming, and hasn’t been for 17 years.