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When Will True Patriots Begin To Wage War Against a Corrupt US Government?

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When Will True Patriots Begin To Wage War Against a Corrupt US Government?

I have pondered at great measure what would be the line in the sand that our government should not be allowed to cross, and after having crossed it would be justification for waging war, either covert or overt, against it.

We see increasingly horrible instances of tyranny that include draconian sentencing, torture and even assassination by our government. The government claims the legal right to commit every specie of crime, tyranny and oppression and offers as justification the famous Nixon line that says “If your President (government) does it, its not against the law.” Government also allows its partisans, in the form of various and numerous corporate entities such as banks and security firms, defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, oil corporations and many other favored government partisans of every variety, to engage in private tyrannies against Americans without redress under law.  Consider how government legalized theft and fraud by financial corporations or the slaughter by Blackwater and cyber-attacks conspired by HB Gary.

I finally decided that, because the government is increasingly becoming our enemy, Americans owe it no more reverence than we do any foreign government that has made itself the enemy of the American people and their liberty.  In fact, we owe it less leniency because as a domestic enemy of the Constitution it is an enemy that has made its way into our land and homes and is therefore an even greater threat as it disguises its tyranny and criminal rackets under the color of law. Moreover, we have believed our government’s lies and have been placed in a position in which, due to the government claiming the power as the final arbiter with a corresponding monopoly on the use of violence over the people and land in which we reside, foolishly believed that in exchange for these powers granted the government it would guarantee justice. Yet, government sophistry justifies tyranny as being law, albeit a law devoid of any justice.  The government first robbed us of justice and then every protection on our rights, liberties and wealth fell to them and their criminal state. 

 So, even though our government has become a greater enemy due to the insidious position it has obtained through lies and subterfuge by using Americans’ misplaced trust, I will still grant it the same consideration I would grant the government of a foreign enemy.  This consideration is granted at great risk because government that has become a domestic enemy to the people can and will betray, lie, confuse, bribe, torture, indoctrinate and punish those who would otherwise be friends of forces fighting a foreign enemy in the cause of liberty.  In short, out government has betrayed us. Those who would side with the government’s lies are either part of the racket or weak-minded.  One need only research what measures the government has undertaken to oppress the people to discern its intent.  Those in power want people to serve the state as opposed to the American tradition of the state serving the people.

The consideration I will grant our government will be to first review what justifications would be needed to engage in and wage a just war against it. For this I will refer to the tenets of the Catholic Church with its Just War Doctrine. It has been an axiom that a government which resists and makes impossible peaceful change in a peoples’ pursuit for liberty and justice, makes violent change necessary. After reviewing the Just War Doctrine I believe one will be a better position to decide if our government has made violent revolution justifiable, necessary and the final resort.

 The Principles of Just War provide:

Principles of the Just War

  • A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.
  • A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.
  • A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause (although the justice of the cause is not sufficient–see point #4). Further, a just war can only be fought with “right” intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.
  • A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.
  • The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.
  • The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

For the sake of organization I will address each tenet and discuss the issues as I believe they apply and for which argument can be made.

1. A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.

Our courts are no longer a path to redress as the government has authorized all of its tyrannies as being the law of the land. Where the government does acknowledge it is breaking the law, it has made it impossible for the people to take its officials to task for using their position, office or power to engage in tyranny, while it will often spend millions to cause economic ruin to those seeking justice. The government has decided to make it so nearly impossible to sue it that, for all intents and purposes, legal redress has been made nearly impossible and can no longer serve as an impetus for protecting or enforcing civil liberties.  The government has progressed to a stage where it now rules all of its tyrannies as being legal.

People claiming their Constitutional Rights are given harsher sentences and placed under ruin for not groveling and submitting to the unconstitutional tyranny of police. The courts refuse to hold the partisans to government tyranny to the law and they are allowed to commit perjury and bear false witness without any threat of penalty. In fact, judges retaliate against people who demand the courts follow the U.S. Constitution and that police be held accountable for perjury and bearing false witness.

When people attempt to organize they face repression of every variety by militarized police who are all too willing to enforce tyranny for a weekly paycheck and preferential treatment when bringing false chrages. The media is no longer an option as it is controlled by private tyrannies called corporations that have aligned themselves with the three branches of government against the American people.  As any enemy would, the government and its corporate allies now spend great effort engaging  in propaganda, disinformation, deception, lies, indoctination, psychological operations and other forms of information warfare that is directed against the American people. When people are able to organize and protest in non-violent ways, they are herded and jailed. The government has raided homes and seized property. In the past the government, under COINTELPRO, assassinated individuals. Now, it uses the “War on Terror” as is excuse for committing its crimes.  

Past presidents of the American republic have argued that the will of the people is embodied in the president, and while I would certainly argue this point, nevertheless, President Kennedy was assassinated and his murder was allowed to be covered up by government. How can people even make decisions about their government, as if to support it or overthrow it if all the information coming from government is either a secret or a lie? The government relies on State’s Secrets Doctrine to hide it crimes, whistleblowers providing evidence of government crime are ruthlessly prosecuted and destroyed financially and even public knowledge becomes classified as matters of national security so the government can either hide or excuse its crimes. Those seeking to expose the truth are attacked by a media that sides with government, as the media is owned by the private tyrannies known as corporations and have been concentrated in the hands of a very few to manufacture consent for their crimes or cause them to never be brought to the public’s attention and subject to debate.  These media corporations are protected by and serve as an ally to the government and are a form of thought control forcing debate to remain inside a paradigm they have established.

As the courts are no longer an option, education and organization are also no longer an option.  Public opinion is nothing but hot air to entrenched politicians.  Speaking truth to power only serves as idiot wind to those who already know about and prefer the tyrannies in which they seek to continue to engage.  It  seems there is little recourse left save violence against the government. The question then comes down to the aggregate of the individual asking himself if he has anymore means left to resist government tyranny with the resources available to him while relying on a principled and reasonable position.  I believe the people have reached the point where they have decided all non-violent means have been used and this is evidenced in the fact that government behavior has become increasingly more odious, secretive and tyrannous. There simply is no longer any crime the government can commit that will not be authorized, excused or hidden under law.  We are hundreds of times more likely to be killed by, or become the victim of jack-booted law enforcement officers than terrorists while our elected officials have done nothing to reign in their rampages.

2. A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.

A government whose tyrannical rule is leading the people to universal misery, economic collapse and serfdom is no longer a legitimate government.  It is destroying the future for the citizenry’s children.  It is now obvious that the rulers of this nation care not if America becomes Bangladash and the people live in squalor so long as their interests are protected.

In the U.S., the people have reserved the right under the Declaration of Independence to overthrow a government that has become abusive. The goal of the founders of this nation was to make the people masters of government, but the branches of government have aligned and worked tirelessly to make Americans their servants.  In a democracy, how can the number of people whose population exceeds the numbers of the government’s agents not be considered a legitimate authority.  In Libya, our government recognizes a number of less than 1% of the population who are rebelling as being the legitimate government.  But, the number of people abused by law enforcement exceed those suffefring Gaddafi’s tyranny.  Look at Waco, Ruby Ridge and the murder by police occurring on a daily basis.  There is no doubt that the tyrannies Americans now suffer under greatly exceed those under which our founding fathers endured.

As the American empire has become increasingly leviathan in nature, it has overthrown established governments for political, economic and military gain while subjecting those nations’ people to militarily enforced destitution, torture and mass murder. There is no government under the New World Order that seeks to stand against the Unites States, while many chose to stand back and watch our elected tyrants crash the ship of state upon the rocks of authoritarianism and militarism. Our enemies are waiting in the wings for our officials to lead us to our ruin so that we may be delivered onto a New World Order in which other governments seek to benefit from the blood and toil of the people. As the government steals the peoples’ wealth through the mechanisms of central banking, it buys governments, foments war and stirs up insurrection and rebellion. Our government has recognized a rebel force as a legitimate government in Libya and so has decided to bomb the country into oblivion while refusing to confer the legitimacy of arming these rebels.

In the creation of the American Republic the legitimate authority rested in a group of rebels that swore an oath to God on their lives, fortunes and sacred honor. But, if truth be known, legitimacy rests in sovereignty and sovereignty is conferred upon those with the ruthlessness and economic and political means to engage in sustained violence over a given geographic area even to the point of exterminating their enemies. It is the American people who cover this land, and as the forces of the U.S. make up a small number of the people, probably less than five percent of the population, if the people make up more than this amount they ought to have conferred upon them the legitimacy of a rebel force.  And, they will have it if they are willing to fight for it.  However, our government would never recognize a rebel force and would punish rebels as traitors and terrorists. While those engaging in such activity would be punished as criminals by our government, our government seeks the prosecution of Gaddafi for doing exactly as our government would do if faced with a rebellion by the people. The fact that the U.S. refuses to identify the rebel strength and will not provide arms or uniforms tells you the Libyan rebels have no legitimacy whatsoever except that conferred upon criminals by more powerful criminals, much like the legitimacy conferred upon  mob bosses by a mafia don.

Government power regularly goes to the individual that is able to lie, cheat, and steal his way to power. If the people do decide to revolt, I hope they have a better way of picking leaders than we do for picking our elected officials. But, if anyone not be a crook and seeks to lead the people back to liberty, freedom and a binding contract between the government and the people, I would argue that this individual would hold legitimacy that far exceeds that of our current politicians.

3. A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause (although the justice of the cause is not sufficient–see point #4). Further, a just war can only be fought with “right” intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.

The American people do not seek the extermination of politicians, police, prosecutors or judges under which they have suffered tyranny. They do not even seek Old Testiment justice of “an eye for an eye” which would cause these tyrants to owe the hundreds of years in prison to which they have wrongfully subjected others. If the government would only abide by the Constitution to which the officials have swore an oath all talk of revolution would be dismissed as nonsense by the people. But, to a very large extent our elected tyrants have committed treason against the U.S. Constitution and “We the People of These United States”.

Our elected official have done nothing to provide liberty and have done much harm to the people. These officials have not said a word as police are given more and more police state authority. I personally would be happy if these people, who have furthered such tyrannies as those visited upon the American people by those acting as its government, were barred from public office, government contract and the practice of law. Let the judges and prosecutors become painters, auto mechanics and grocery store managers. These individuals have refused to uphold the Constitution and it is assured they would engage in the exact same behavior under any new system thus corrupting it with their arrogance and criminality. They have either allowed to happen or caused to happen the tyranny under which the American people now suffer. So, the intention of the American people is to merely restore the republic, bind the government once more through a contract with the people and to safeguard our life, liberty, peace and prosperity while providing the people with an opportunity to pursue their happiness.

4. A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.

In fact, the American Revolution was won against the world’s premier superpower with only 15% of the military-aged males fighting on the side of liberty. Our government needs to understand that there is a point where an armed people decide there are things that gnaw at them worse than death. When the people they love are being condemned to a lifetime of poverty, tyranny, theft and murder, the people may decide that they will personally wage war against government much as Timothy McVeigh did. He looked at the U.S. foreign policy and decided he would follow its example. Government was the great teacher for ill and Timothy McVeigh was its able and eager student.

In Afghanistan the Taliban are the legitimate government and regularly punish traitors that collude with the puppet government or directly with the U.S. The fact is that the current Afghan government would not last as long as a good sand storm if the U.S. was not there providing soldiers and arms.

The Soviet Union fell without a violent revolution, but it was years between its fall and the democide of 30 to 40 million of its people by leaders the U.S. government recognized as being its legitimate government. Does one have to wait for mass starvation to withhold legitmacy?  Legitimacy is conferred upon a people who, with weapons and the will to use them, seek to become a sovereign nation that protects the liberties and property of the people. Imagine if a military unit decides it would seize some nuclear Tomahawks and offer a free state to any American willing to take up residence in that area. Our politicians would surely have no problem with 40 million Americans dying, but if Washington D.C was the target, there would now be a new nation inside the United States.  Our leaders value their lives more than the freedom and lives of the country. 

Much has been written about how few it takes to lead a successful revolution when the politicians have made a nation ripe for revolt. Again, the question comes down to ruthlessness. When a dedicated and brave few stand against what everyone knows to be tyranny, what at first glance appears to be a hopeless cause now becomes a fire that has spread in the minds of men seeking liberty and justice.

As the government, to include the military, makes up a small percent of the overall population, there only need be 10% of the population in revolt to be victorious. I would also question the resolve of paid mercenaries fighting against a people with legitimate grievances. Furthermore, as in Afghanistan and Iraq, as the government becomes more desperate, it alienates more and more people due to it becoming more and more tyrannical.

5. The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.

There is absolutely no doubt that if revolution comes to this country it will only be in defense of the Constitution and as the result of tyranny and oppression. The changes that need to occur are so obvious and simple, but yet they remain stymied. There are things that could so easily be fixed that would have a profound effect on providing economic and personal liberty. The elite seek to hold on to power and refuse justice as a matter of principle to demonstrate that there is no justice or rule of law, but the rule of their power and wealth. These people talk of ethics and morals and yet do whatever their power allows them to get away with. Morals and ethics guide the majority of society, but not those who believe society is there to serve them. To them the masses are ants. It is said that one should never give a sucker and even break. For people to continually vote for financial and power elites who care little for the average man, except where their interests are shared or in opposition, demonstrates that they have no intention on giving an electorate an even break any time soon.

Tyranny is a form of warfare in which people have accepted defeat before ever fighting, and having decided they have no means of resistance, accept injustice as law. The people cry out for justice and experience has shown that after having fought for it people have no intention of allowing the same tyrannies to flourish that they had fought to oppose.

We see tyrannies and wonder how its perpetrators could so easily and without conscience decide to do exactly the opposite of what justice demands because the state’s agents would rather side with power than justice. I have no doubt that a revolution to end tyranny would make this country a better place. My worry is that the crimes committed by the elite in opposition to liberty would be so reprehensible that it would lead to reprisals. The French Revolution had resulted in the slaughter of the ruling class after the elite abused the people. But, the change Americans now seek is for no other reason than to provide justice and liberty.

6. The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

Our nation has always been the invader and as such, regardless of the claim of taking care to limit collateral damage, always ends up killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. During the Iraq war and its embargo we killed at least 200,000 civilians, the sum of three entire football stadiums. During that time the U.S. claims it killed about 50,000 militants. During the bombing campaigns of the Vietnam War we killed millions. The body count for the Vietnam War was about 3 million dead Vietnamese. During the Iraq War we killed only a fraction of those combatants. Most experts agree that we killed only about one combatant for every five civilians.

This monolitic leviathan of a government under which Americans now suffer owes its existence to Lincoln and his war upon the South.  Avoidable civilian deaths during “Sherman’s March to the Sea” saw slaughter conducted with such savagery that it required editing from the American psyche through educational indoctination in government schools.  The summary executions, burning of cities, destruction of homes and property are now celebrated as a war against slavery.  But, this war also led to Americans becoming the slaves of a federal government.  Civilian deaths were of no concern to Lincoln and he was perfectly willing to exterminate the South if it meant his cronies would assume deeds to the properties and businesses and there were still people left from whom he could collect taxes.  Lincoln started the American system of corporatism and so it is reaching its logical conclusion, a conclusion that coincides with the the destruction of our liberty. 

In the foreign arena, we have made civilians the targets of our weapons in hopes this would motivate them to overthrow their government.  The U.S. government has enforced starvation and the denial of medical necessities in the hopes this woud lead to rebellion by a people against their government.  This regime change was hoped to be forced upon a people so they would then be willing to endure the slaughter by their government.  Often these people were then abandoned by the U.S. government with their countries left in ruin and poisoned with nuclear and chemical waste.

If there were an uprising in America, the people would not be the aggressor. The truth of the matter is that it has been the government that has been waging war on the world while engaging in an occupation of America. The people of this nation would be fighting a defensive war. The people of the U.S would only be defending themselves against a criminal government. With its corporate run rape prisons that use slave labor, to its perjuring police that lie with impunity, to the prosecutors who hide witnesses and evidence, suborn perjury, torture and murder, witness and evidence tamper, and engage in coercion, to the judges that give this cesspool a thin veneer of legitimacy for the ignorant and weak-minded to accept, this system is rotten to the core. Judges discriminate against pro se litigants and violate their rights knowing that an appeal is impossible for a citizen to perform and too expensive to obtain. So, the system needs to be ended. The system operates not for justice, but for the profits of the legal class where justice is sold to the highest bidder.  Justice has becomes one more tyrannical racket under which the people are forced to suffer.  The elite have become so abusive that they don’t even see revolt coming.

Those who seek to save the republic would be using small arms and any killings would be strictly limited to those waging war on the people. There would be no bombing campaign by the people. They would merely be defending themselves and their property.  Revolution will start with an retalitory ambush resulting from police slaughter and at that point Americans will have to decide which side they are on.

Our military has specifically targeted civilians and engaged in reprisals against civilian targets. There is no argument to this fact. However, during an uprising the people would be the popular resistance. The people would be helping and assisting those freedom fighters directly engaging in combat. While there will always be traitors who can be bought off, the time will come when the people who will be fighting government will recognize they are fighting on the side of humanity as an act of desperation.  Americans do not have to wait, as those in the Soviet Union did, for our government to starve its people, place citizens in gulags and have them be subjected to genocide.

I offer this Declaration of Independence by Warner Todd Huston:

 A New Declaration of Independence

When in the Course of human events it again becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with a failed authority and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God as well as our original, properly constituted laws entitle us, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that we should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Such has been the patient sufferance of we the people; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to repair to their former Systems of Government. The history of the present President, his Congress, and our recalcitrant federal government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

It has abused its role over the law and instituted fiat rules that are detrimental to the common good welfare, cap and trade, oppressive taxes, onerous regulation on business are recent examples.

It has forbidden governors of states to pass laws useful to local needs and has interfered in state business.

It has refused the right of local government to govern at home and has as a matter of course caused local legislators to carelessly assume they have no power.

It has defacto dissolved the authority of state governments so that the representatives of the people constantly defer to rule from Washington.

It has refused to secure the borders so that all manner of foreigners of the lowest station might flood these shores without hesitation while refusing to allow those foreigners with useful skills and education to enter and apply for citizenship.

It has allowed capricious courts to usurp proper legislative duties and to rule from the bench.

It has seated judges with no opposition or investigation and has not required judicial candidates to express an interest in the true meaning of the law of the land.

It has erected a multitude of new regulatory offices few of which have any basis in the Constitution and has as a form of graft filled them with friends, lobbyists, and placemen.

It has refused to properly fund our armies in times of peace without including graft and monies unconnected to the needs of our armed forces.

It has therefore interfered with the military stopping it from operating at peak efficiency.’

It has conspired with powers outside our duly constituted authority to take away our constitutional rights, to subvert our national laws, and has given assent to forces such as the UN to rule us from afar without accountability. These outside forces are hateful of our system and desire it’s end. Therefore we accuse our government of attacking us from inside.

For positing that UN forces are superior in authority to our own:

For signing treaties inimical to our national interests:

For cutting off free trade with worthy countries such as Colombia, yet opening trade with evil countries such as China:

For imposing taxes on us without our consent:

For depriving us of our constitutional rights of property, life, and self-protection at every opportunity:

For creating rules that encroach on freedom of religion:

For increasing the size of government to never before seen size and power in a manner against our founding principles and for purposefully creating chaos in business, banking, and every other area of the private sector with never ending regulations that strangle, confuse, and stifle American growth:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

And for corrupting our legislatures with federal largess and assuming unto the federal government all powers to rule from Washington D.C.

It has abdicated its Constitutional role and essentially come to see the people as an enemy and waged philosophical war against us.

It has plundered our businesses with overweening regulations, capriciously outlawed entire fields of business, and burdened the lives of the people with oppressive taxes.

It has created an army of police, taxmen and regulators to fan out across the land to assault and imprison our citizens, to confiscate lands to federal ownership and to lay waste the economy and bring our people into a form of dependency akin to slavery.

It has often sent our armed forces to foreign nations without a proper mission, held back necessary funding, and burdened it with untenable “rules of engagement” which has limited our troop’s ability to fight to win, and has allowed barbarous enemies to gain the upper hand on the battle field.  Our government has used our military for regime so our criminal rulers could control the criminal rulers of other nations and usurp the US Constitution.

In every stage of these violations millions of citizens have gathered in the streets to protest these government outrages yet no heed has been paid to the agony of the people in its hallowed halls.  Nor have we been heard by our Democrat brethren. We have warned them of the destruction of the American rule of law, yet they are uninterested in this plight. We have appealed to their love of country and we have reminded them of the glorious history of our great nation to no avail. They have turned a deaf ear to Constitutionality, a cold shoulder to our American character, and our law and we find their sympathies lie with Europeans instead of their fellow Americans. We must, therefore, consider them enemies of our national interests, safety, health, and welfare.

We, therefore, the representatives of the American tradition and character assemble as citizens proud of our history and institutions, and in the tradition of our national power being held in the hands of the people, assert our loyalty to our true American system. We hold this government to be illegitimate by its usurpation of power and its obviation of our laws. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence that has been rejected by our enemies, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred Honor.



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    • Anonymous

      You mean the so called over weight beer chugging, gun-rack ,AK toting, hate Obama type Good Ole Boy Patriots? Well someday, and then the USA, will send in the troops, Martial Law Imposed, fighter jets,tanks,drones,chem and bio weapons,microwave and pulse weaponry on you African, Asians, Hispanic, Indian haters.. I guess you Patriots hate everyone that is not WHITE!

      Go on launch your attack against the rest of humanity Oh I forgot you all have been doing that for well over 2 thousands years, now you want to wage war against a government you all created! Hmmmm be my guess tear it all down, it is your creation… :)

      • Marshal de Saxe

        ummm…are you a bit tense Anonymous…go de-caf maybe? Don’t be ashamed of your inability to reason, it’s a learned skill…now try again addressing the points made, not the ones you made up…atta boy.

      • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

        Okay, I will address his comments.

        No, I don’t mean “the so called over weight beer chugging, gun-rack ,AK toting, hate Obama type Good Ole Boy Patriots”. I mean every man who was endowed with liberty and freedom by his creator.

        I have no doubt the government would use weapons on innocents and the defenseless. But, we outnumber the government at about 200 to one. Yeah, I know there are about 1.5 million in the military and more in the police agencies, but many will defect once shooting started. Those that would not deserve to die.

        Yes they have weapons, but look at them in Afghanistan. It seems a bunch of guys with AKs who won’t quit will carry the day eventually. And, if people would revolt we could count on help from other nations.

        I love all people who oppose tyranny and fight for freedom regardless of their race. It was not me who oppressed them, it was other whom I would oppose with them if they were fellow comrades.

        I seek not to launch any attack on humanity. I seek to free humanity from the oppression of criminal governments, which is pretty much all governments. Why is it people think they need a criminal syndicate to have law and order? I don’t know who you say “you all have been doing that for well over two thousand years”. If you mean “white people” I would ask you to consider the wars in Africa. The African kings did the same thing. And so did Muslims. And so did black dictators. The evil is not white or black; the evil is government.

        Am I a fan of the British empire? No. I would have rather had the Brits be completely destroyed due to their imperial crimes.

        Now, what points did I fail to address?

        • Anonymous

          Fight the Power that Be….. the light is on the dawn is near. Satan’s little imps, vs a magnificent fearless force. That do not mind dying, if we can all live free someday!

      • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

        Please go to my Facebook page and like “Jews Against Zionism and War with Iran”.

        This is an online museum that contains the truth about the war Israel is trying to foist upon the US.

        We can stop the war with Iran, but it takes an effort to expose the lies and propaganda.

    • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

      I hate anyone who oppresses others. I am white and I deeply admire Malcolm X, Chairman Fred Hampton, Mark Clark and Minister Farrakhan. I hate imperialism in Africa and wrote many articles to expose US colonialism and imperialism in Africa. What you need to do is consider that Obama is nothing more than a black face put on the New World Order. He is an elitist and war criminal, just as Bush was. He prosecuted more whistle-blowers than Bush and became an even greater tyrant, albeit with a slipperier tongue. I will stand with any African-American brother against tyranny and police state abuse. Ron Paul said he would free millions of non-violent African-American drug offenders in a bogus war on War on Drugs, but most African-Americans would rather suffer under Obama as an African-American tyrant than be freed by President Ron Paul. I suggest you go to the Facebook page I created called “African-Americans for Ron Paul” and meet the real brothers in the struggle for LIBERTY. The American police state will always oppress African-Americans. The power structure you support assassinated black leadership during Operation COINTELPRO as they did to whites under Operation Patriot Conspiracy. Have you taken the time to study these FBI oppressions. I hate what our nation did to the Indians. I hate slavery. I want all men to be free, even if that means my standard of living is lower. I would sooner be free and live in a camper than support our wage-slavery system. But, tThere is none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. You can mock liberty and mischaracterize those who support it as rednecks. I would rather have a fellow patriot on my side than alienate an ally. I will not fall for the false paradigms that the system has created. Neither should you.

      • Anonymous

        I am happy you responded so forcibly, Now I am a fan…. :) Had to know the team you identify with.
        A true Human Being…. kudos doc… :)

    • OzzieEd

      OzzieEd
      Be kind to eachother and help those you can. Recognizing the enemy is the first responsibility. They are using money to control us. We must stop playing their game. While we play the money game, the bankers have the power. If we swap with eachother as much as possible, they lose power. It makes you feel good too! Smile a lot. It really pisses them off. Oh, and make up songs about them. They are so sensitive to ridicule and freedom of expression. Have a nice day!

    • Mort Amsel

      it’s easy to call for a war mr. armchair general, you don’t know what you ask.

      • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

        The government has already declared war upon the people. I merely advocate that people defend themselves from government. Maybe if there was a significant uprising the government would get rid of the NDAA and Patriot Act. But, I doubt it would and instead it would clamp down on the people and use even greater levels of force because our corrupt leaders would never accept the will of the people.

        There are many people who have said we have reached the point where peaceful change is no longer possible.

        Have you read the books put forward by neocons and Zionists? Have you heard the absurd statements by the GOP Republican candidate (except for Ron Paul)? They want to rule Americans as opposed to securing liberty. They all want war and plunder instead of peace and prosperity. Did you listen to Santorum, Gingrich Bachmann? The only person more stupid then them is Palin. Untrained in economics, and mouth pieces for the military-industrial complex. If we go to war with Iran, you can bet there will be a draft. We will NEVER be able to beat Iran without a full mobilization. And when China and Russia begin funding their war, it will be a war that will bust the US when they begin using the US debt they hold to fund the destruction of the US. And, when they put trillions of dollar they hold as debt into the war effort and inflate the money supply and devalue the dollar, and the US begins inflating the money supply to pay for its part in the war, it will be the end of the US.

        And that will be a good thing. Then they will have brought the destruction we need for a revolution to occur all by themselves,

        Do I want a war? No. But, our power elite will soon have left the American people no choice.

      • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

        If you read stuff from Che Guevara you will understand revolution. I understand that the American government has aligned against the people and refuses to provide justice and liberty. I understand that we have a two-tiered justice system. I understand people can not get justice through our court system. I understand our leaders need more war to keep the system functioning because they have so perverted our economy for their own gain. I understand that peace is not in their interests anymore. I understand we live under a fascist government. Is there any doubt that a peace after a revolution would not be preferable to what we live under now? If the elite were to be held accountable ad tried and executed, it would let the next group of politicians understand that there are lines they had better not cross.

        Ron Paul started a revolution. He offered a political solution, but the system was too corrupt to accept common sense.

    • Anonymous

      Fundamentally Satan is the being which obsesses the lower level lives without asking for the permission of the lower level beings. Sounds like the throne has lost control of it’s imps! Let the games begin if it is a flood of American Blood, that must satisfy the desire sacrifice of the Elites, than we shall fight until they become breathless and can no longer deliver orders to the many. But we shall be the ones giving the orders to the powerful few, washing them away forever never to worship their wealth and power anymore.

    • Anonymous

      The king of hope Obama(Sun) finishes the big slaughtering (the manuscriptwhich tells about the principle of ‘the Giant Deluge of Noah’ and ‘the attack to the cities from space’.
      After that he found his identity.(The matter that he might be Sun and the existence of his kinsmen).
      The true current of the death (the program of human slaughtering) starts by dint of the pedestal (the mantle layer which combine sea water and the continent)
      and the weight (the inner core made of iron).
      The great Romans (the strongest nation in that age means the US now) see the proof of Medusa
      (It is compared to the sisters Media who make people the stone only by sight)
      Human beings shrink only by hearing three sisters who are the cause of ‘the Giant Deluge of Noah’. Nostradamus

    • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

      Please go to my Facebook page and like “Jews Against Zionism and War with Iran”.

      This is an online museum that contains the truth about the war Israel is trying to foist upon the US.

      We can stop the war with Iran, but it takes an effort to expose the lies and propaganda.

    • lovinight

      Ready when you are!

    • Mover

      A Just War? How corrupt do you want to get?

      Permission to Engage
      http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2012/08/2012823616123717.html

    • Anonymous

      eventually it will happen, except there will be so many disagreements and factions, nothing will get done, and the world will live under one banner, ran like a prison. If the left and right populists and lower 95% could learn to work together, we have a chance to at least prevent totalitarianism. I mean, a lot of left and right want similar things in different ways but the media throws emotional hot button things out there to divide us. Divide and conquer. If the parties are in-fighting or hating this or that group of people then it distracts them from the elite and stuff like police militarism and brutality, lack of free speech, loss of personal freedoms, censorship, etc. I’m a southerner but I’m a radical independent, because its radical to not trust politcal parties, and its radical to think for yourself. Its hard to make frends because there is always something to argue about, BUT you can also relate to everybody in some way.

    • sten

      If your neighbour calls the cops simply because you “own” a gun, why does it not make you mad?

      When the government says you have a mental illness because you dont agree with, why does that not make you angry?

      When veterans have become the number one fear because they have been to war, why does that not want to make you drag you representatives sorry ass out of office?

      When MD issued medicines kill more people than illegal drugs, why do you not say something?

      When your government has become undoubtedly the modern equivalent of the National Socialists under Hitler, Why do you not fight back?

      Do you believe it would be “illegal”? When did “Self Defence” become illegal? When will true patriots wage war on their oppresors? :eek:

    • ruff1951

      “A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority”. My question is. Who is is the person or person’s who has such authority to wage war against a corrupt government? There is no such party or person that I am aware of.

      • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

        I have considered your comment regarding the establishment of a legitimate authority and I am going to write and article regarding the establishment of a provisional government in exile that can begin a dialogue with both the American people and the US government. They will establish their legitimacy and authority by seeking a redress of grievances on behalf of the American people. If the American government will adhere to the Constitution and forsake its tyrannous treasons against the American people, then these patriots would have served their nation as political leaders and statesmen. If the government begins to wage an illegal war engage in wholesale criminality and oppression, then Americans will have had established their legitimate authority for their leadership against a criminal elite.

        I believe it can be this simple. The leadership must be libertarian intellectuals who will follow the US Constitution above all else. We must stop war. We must stop infringement on individual liberty. We must reign in police state tyranny. We must end the CIA. We must end the drug war. We must end the militarism evidenced by the fact that we spend more than the rest of the world combined on the military and we have over 800 military bases in 120 countries. We must crush the police state in which 850,000 security personnel have placed over one million Americans on the Terrorist Watch List by a security apparatus that is the size of 40 Pentagons.

        Who seeks to begin establishing this entity for redress? It can begin dialog with the American people so they understand it is their representative against a tyrannous government being run by a criminal elite on a global crime spree. All legislation for placing Americans in prison camps must be immediately repealed.

    • Anonymous

      Very, very well worded and thorough.

    • Anonymous

      This is the BEST article I have ever read on Before it’s news. Ever! Truly amazing stuff.

    • Matheus Grunt

      Mr. Joseph Zrnchik, I just want to say that the Citizens of this great nation are the ultimate authority that is vested in us as American’s who love our country and want to defend it from tyranny. I am not an elected official but I am an American and a veteran. I will not stand by my whole life and watch the gradual acceleration of anti-liberty forces vacate our liberty loving neighbors and friends. So as an individual and us as groups, we are all part of the militia and we are all granted authority to fight against enemies foreign or domestic and it just happens to be that the greatest enemy is domestic.

    • thepatriot

      Abraham Lincoln once said “As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.” My fellow patriots that day has past and we know his suspicions were correct. We have lost our liberties one by one, our government is ruled by the corporations, Prisons are full of people that are no danger to society with some individuals locked up with no trial or an unfair trial because they do not have money to mount a proper defense in court and people are suffering. We are now forced to rely on the government to keep us feed, warm at night, money in our pockets, to get us jobs and the list goes on. we are disabled by the government we don’t have liberty we have a government that has false pretenses of loving liberty. our move as patriots needs to begin now we need to come together now. we need to have meetings in every town across America. every man and women needs to do there part to change our government back to for the people and by the people. we the people need to write ourselves into history for changing our government to being for the people or we the people have no future at all.

      • The Federal Farmer

        Yeah…except that corporations have no power except that granted by the government. “We” were never a government of by and for the people. This sentence, that so many modern wannabe patriots cling to, was part of a political speech by that great usurper of liberty, your beloved Abraham Lincoln.
        Government is tyranny. The Constitution pretended to reign in that tyranny with pretty words, and you (and they) were so anxious to have some great and powerful leaders give you freedom that you’re not willing to simply take your freedom and live it!

    • The Federal Farmer

      I think it’s kind of sad that you and so many like you call for a return to the Constitution (or believe that the Constitution is good and that evil people in the government aren’t following it.)
      The Founders, when debating whether to even have a constitution spoke on the very issues you describe above!
      They predicted exactly what has happened in the antifederalist papers.
      It’s a shame so few patriots even bother to read these vitally important writings and like sheep continue bleating to restore that monstrosity! The Constitution created the government. Restoring it won’t help.
      We need a constitutional convention or a mass succession.
      http://archive.org/details/antifederalist_0707_librivox

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