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How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper?

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Editor’s Note: You have no doubt had your own set of issues dealing with friends and family members that simply don’t see the writing on the wall. The following article may serve to assist you in convincing those who simply don’t know, don’t want to know, don’t care, or have never even thought to contemplate. Some of the scenarios outlined below may be frightening, as they should be, because when it hits the fan millions of people will be thrown into desperation with no hope of a solution. Be Informed provides a variety of point-by-point details that may (and hopefully will) convince the non-prepared individual to at least insulate themselves with the basic necessities. The consequences for not doing so, as you’ll see, are severe and often deadly.


I have become personally so disenchanted with the way people fail to prep.  People still don’t understand how important it is to put away.  I have gotten into arguments over this and had cretins call me a fool because I put away food, water, and supplies.  I thought about this and the frustration that other preppers have with this laid back idiotic attitude that there is no need for preparation.  There are good people that just can’t/won’t start preparing. They have the money to do so, but just don’t want to.  Many have only seen what happens to non-preppers on TV, but it still doesn’t make an impact.

In this article I detail some hard core realities to show just how awful it will be for those that don’t prep. Every one of these scenarios is something that has occurred to the non-prepper throughout history.  While strong images come to mind, the purpose is to jar some people out of their inaction and into action before it is too late.

Preppers are good people and care much about those around them, and unless something does jar those around them that choose not to prep, their own survival chances could be reduced.  For every bit of food, water, ammunition, or supplies you sacrifice to the non-prepper, the fewer irreplaceable supplies are left for you and your family in a crisis situation.  It is hoped that the following can help certain people put into TRUE perspective just how horrific it will be for those that don’t prepare.

Here are the awful consequences for those refusing to prep.

As the world continues to decay at multiple facets, the common person has and continues to be lulled into a sense that everything is improving and will continue to for the distant future.  After all, to them unemployment has peaked out and will drop until everyone that wants to work will easily be able to find good paying work,  North Korea is no threat because all their long range “bottle rockets” fizz out,  sanctions will eventually make Iran give up their nuclear program, oil prices will start going down after June or so,  Europe will bail out Greece and Spain and everyone else,  and U.S. debt will eventually come under control.

After 2012 everyone that has prepared themselves will go back to more “sensible” lives.  “Good times are coming”, baseball season is here, let’s get back to watching some more crackerjack news.

It is amazing how people become good conversationalists with most others discussing all the gossip related news, while becoming mentally tranquilized into a totally deceptive state of denial of truly dangerous issues of the times.  It’s the blind leading the blind… right off the cliff.

Rather than dealing with harsh reality, people surround themsleves with easy to digest material that can be talked about without directly influencing anyone’s lives.  Meaningless chatter.  Even for those unwilling to even think to prepare for a societal catastrophic event, there is also no desire to even face the extreme possibility of a sudden loss of one’s employment.  A personal SHTF.

Look at some of the terrible personal pain experienced in America right now – and it hasn’t even hit the fan on a grand scale. Those people who have lived it up on credit, who failed to put much of anything away for a rainy day, who’ve lost their job, and who eventually lost their unemployment benefits are experiencing the first level of collapse. This is happening to millions of people in our own country, all around us, as we speak.

These Americans, who once enjoyed the luxuries that modern living had to offer, are now at their wits end, with very little hope for a return to their previous lives. They are no longer able to pay most or any of their bills. Many have to humiliatingly turn to others for help to pay for food, or worse, to obtain old, unhealthy and poor tasting food from locally funded food banks. Their credit cards are totally worthless. Many have been evicted from their homes and have uprooted their families to live either on the street, in tent cities, with relatives, or have been forced to live at homeless shelters, They’ve have had their vehicles repossessed, or simply can’t afford the gasoline anymore. Their living conditions often make it difficult, if not impossible, to look presentable for job interviews. For many, the life of stability they knew just a short while ago is gone, replaced with fear and a constant stress to the point of nervous breakdown.

A personal economic meltdown is confined to the individual or family, or at worst a few families.  The human civilization remains intact and so do society’s safety nets.

With food assistance, rental assistance, homesless shelters, and family to turn to, even the most destitute are almost always able to find some sort of help – however menial.

It is no wonder with these known assistance programs, then, that people have forgotten or never thought to consider what happens IF and WHEN human civilization goes through a strong enough SHTF event.  If that happens on a mass scale what happens to everyone that needs help that has not prepared ahead of time?  What happens when governments are in such total disarray or destroyed altogether that they can’t help even if they wanted to?

The media and others have portrayed the good people that sacrifice much if not all “luxuries” of life to prepare themselves and their family and friends for extreme times, as chicken littles.  Those who have made the choice to store up emergency food, water, and other necessities to avoid extreme life threatening risks, including suffering horribly during and after a widespread SHTF event, are laughed at and ridiculed often for “wasting” their lives on delusional paranoia.

But who is delusional? Those who see the signs around them and understand how vulnerable the system is, or those who believe that things never change, that politicians have their best interests at heart, and that if the worst happens the government will be there to provide everything they may need?

How many have considered the dire consequences of their failure to prepare in the event that the infrastructure and everything a country’s people depend on totally collapses?

The misery from long term unemployment and lack of money is like a walk in the park compared to the severe anguish and dangerous conditions that await those who have failed to prepare for the aftermath of a large scale cataclysm.  The “minor” problems of unemployment that seem extremely major and painful to most today should serve as a wake up call to what life will be like when something much, much worse happens – when those proverbial safety nets are no longer there to catch us.

Many preppers have become deeply frustrated at those around them, especially those that truly mean something to them, because they simply refuse to put away anything at all for emergencies.  The prepper is usually a person that cares a lot and it is often difficult for them to take a tough stance towards the people that they care about.  However, unless someone changes the habits of those people that fail to get ready, decisions will need to be made, and they won’t be easy.

The choice of what the prepared prepper should do will boil down to either either adding these people to their own circle or survival group and reduce the group’s safety, supplies and self sufficiency, OR, they will have to let the non-prepper fend for themselves.  This is a very personal choice, and each of us will need to decide based on our own morals, ethics and personal relationships.

As a last ditch effort, discussing the following scenarios with the non-prepper may help them understand what life will be like without what has sustained them so comfortably for so long.

This is the hard reality the non prepper needs to understand:

  • Without power the water company cannot get water to their faucets. Without water dehydration occurs within 24 hours. Dehydration causes much suffering before death.
  • Toilets in homes, unless they have an incineration toilet that still need power to work, don’t flush without water.  Where will they go to the bathroom and then where will they dispose of human waste?
  •  There will be no clean water available anywhere, especially in major cities, and they cannot live more than about three days without it.
  • Drinking dirty and polluted water will make them incredibly sick and accelerate the dehydration process.
  • Polluted water must be purified and that means having a good filter, bleach or other disinfectant, or fuel and something to boil water with.
  • Understand just how fragile the power and the infrastructure is that pumps water to the public. A breakdown in our power infrastructure or a cyber attack against utility systems will render them useless.
  • A single event can rapidly lead to a cascade of other events that would certainly collapse almost, if not, everything. This is why major snow storms, hurricanes or solar events in the past have affected millions of people in an entire region all at once.
  • A single, seemingly unimportant event may become quite terrible as its repercussions spread; this can include a far and away disaster.
  • Understand that the economies of the world are so interwoven that when one major economy falls it affects everyone.
  • Not having any food in the house means that if the stores are emptied suddenly in a bad enough situation that there will be no food available for a long period of time afterward. Recent history during disasters around the world has shown that stores can literally be emptied in minutes.
  • Think about how totally horrible the feeling of being very hungry is and what circumstances would cause one to be desperate enough to eat anything.
  • ALL stores can be closed instantly under martial law.
  • Understand that you may not be able to purchase anything after it starts, especially with any credit cards.
  • Understand the complexity of food and water distribution; breaks in these chains can stop anything from getting to the people.
  • What life will be like if no toilet paper is stored?
  • Understand that without light sources, the night will be pitch black, often with zero visibility.
  • There will be no communications, other than probably martial law type of instructions over the radio, that is if they have batteries for the radio.
  • Other than ham and shortwave radio, any information that is available will be sent out by the government as filtered propaganda that “they” want everyone to hear.
  • Without power consider what it will be like to not have any heat to stay warm, or air conditioned air to stay cooler – with no way of alleviating the situation.
  • Travelling will likely be by foot or bicycle, as their will be no fuel and roadways may be blocked.
  • Realize that ANY travel outside of the home or neighborhood will be extremely dangerous as ANYONE who moves becomes a target
  • Non preppers will be pushed way beyond their limit because of lack of supplies.
  • The non prepper must realize their government does not really care about them individually, that they are a mere number and help will likely not come from them.
  • They have to figure out somewhere to get food. This can mean wild plants which they must know how to identify as safe, or risk poisoning themselves.
  • They have to understand that when we refer to “having no food” it doesn’t mean not having the food they are used to enjoying, it means no food to eat at all.
  • They have to understand that if they are fortunate enough to have any running water, they will probably have to bathe in cold water for lack of stored fuel to heat water.
  •  They have to realize that the very strange and totally unexpected is going to be all around them, made that much worse because of lack of any reliable self defense stores or skills.
  • They might have to remain on the run constantly because of looking for water and food.
  • They must understand that bad will be magnified magnitudes to living misery because of lack of food, water, and other necessary items that they took for granted for so long.

Okay, now comes the “truly ugly and unthinkable” life that most, if not all, people that have failed and refused to prepare themselves will deal with.  Clear vivid visualization is key here for anyone that ho hums the idea of prepping.

What horrors they will likely face after a cave-in of their nation’s economy, war, geophysical upheaval, or whatever crisis is bad enough to disturb or stop their nation from working and functioning?  There are plenty of very potential SHTF events that are simply awaiting a catalyst to trigger them.

  •  The Non-Prepper (NP) has to realize right off the bat that 911 and other emergency calls in will be met with silence or some recording telling the caller not to panic.
  • The (NP) that has no reliable self defense that can stop an attacker, will not get help from public services, and will become a victim of rape, assault, torture, or murder.
  • The (NP) that has no reliable self defense and will not only be at the mercy of criminal elements, but also have to contend with many desperate animals, some with rabies.
  • The (NP) that has no food will either have to find food or be ready to beg for food or worse, like sacrificing their bodies or other horrible acts or things to get a bite of food.
  • The (NP) will have to go through the worst, most rancid conditions of garbage to just maybe find what they should have stored up.
  • The (NP) will go through panic and near if not total psychosis looking for any water source right before their bodies begin shutting down during advanced stages of dehydration.
  • The (NP) will go through unbearable trauma when their children and other people around them are crying, screaming, and suffering with intense hunger pains in their stomachs.
  •  The (NP) will have to deal with the awful stench of rotting wastes from many sources because they have not taken the effort to even store up waste disposal plastic bags.
  • The (NP) will have disease and pathogens everywhere, not only because they have no trash disposal means, but because they haven’t prepared how to deal with trash and waste.
  • The (NP) will have to live in very primitive conditions after things around them deteriorate rapidly, because they have neglected putting away anything to make life more bearable.
  • The (NP) and those around them will likely develop all sorts of infective skin rashes from the lack of insight of storing up toilet paper.  Imagine the smell for a moment.
  • The (NP) will have to handle biting insects and other vermin that will collect amoungst the filth that will pile up.  No pest control stored up along with no other supplies.
  • The (NP) will have no way of treating sickness certain to follow a SHTF event, no first aid and likely no training or knowledge about how to treat the ill on top of this.
  • The (NP) will have sick and dying people around them because of not being able to treat minor injuries.  Didn’t even stock up on disinfectives.  Unsanitary conditions lead to infection.
  • The (NP) and others around them will experience much grief as they watch helplessly as their family members literally die of starvation right in front of their eyes.
  • The (NP) won’t believe how desperate hunger drives them and those that mean everything to them to “trying” to eat food that taste so bad it gags them and comes back up.
  • The (NP) will likely have family and friends around them that have also not prepared committing suicide because they can’t take it any longer.
  • The (NP) will witness some of those people around them lose any sense of civilized humanity in them and behave like wild animals after some time from lack of necessities.
  • The (NP) and family members, maybe friends also, will at some point end up barbecuing or eating raw the family dog, cat, bird, any pet dear to everyone for food.
  • The (NP) will likely get into physical fights with other family members over any scrap of food available as rational thoughts are lost to wanton hunger.
  • The (NP) as many other (NP’s) will eventually go out of any safety of their home looking for food and or water, become disorientated and lost, and die a hard death somewhere.
  • The (NP) that is “lucky” enough to find some government help will likely have to almost sell their soul, probably all their freedom, to get tiny rations – just enough to keep them alive.
  • The (NP) will see widespread violence and barbarism that will shock them to the core and will wish that they had purchased some form of firearm and stocked up on ammunition.
  • The (NP) better get used to attempting to explain the children and other adults why they wasted all that money on junk, and didn’t buy any emergency food and other supplies.
  • The (NP), no matter how positive they are will drop quickly into depression and lose willpower as having nothing to hold on to does this, along with lack of any nutrition.
  • The (NP) will feel the worst guilt imaginable as they hear their family moaning in anguish from lack of anything to eat, knowing they could have done something to prepare.
  • The (NP) will most likely not see the rebuilding and recovery after A SHTF event. They will, like almost all NP’s, be statistics.  Some will die hours or a day before help arrives.
  • The (NP) from lack of food, drinking bad water, no light at night, the horrid smells, no good self defense, the overall horror, will often be paralyzed with fear and despair, blank stare.
  • The (NP) is totally helpless after SHTF, will have to rely totally on charity of those prepared to live.  They will take all sorts of desperate measures likely to get them shot.  They’ll attempt to eat hazardous foods like an animal trapped in a house will do, and get sick and suffer much before dying.  The (NP) will likely die (ugly and hard) as they lived, unprepared for anything.

If we were to use one single word to describe the torments that someone who “chooses” not to prepare will go through after a true you know what hits the fan it would be “PREVENTABLE”.

Almost every single person, even a very poor person, has the capacity to put away emergency food and supplies.  Even homeless people have stashes of something just in case things become so bad that the normal hand outs and thrown-away items dry up.  Many people with good sources of income don’t even have an extra can of food or any water put away at all. This is stupidity beyond words.

Every day lightweight disasters happen in all parts of the world that disturb services enough that people are confined to their homes for a certain amount of time.  While recovery is short, people are still uncomfortable during these times.  Look what happens after a power outage at night and you will be mystified at how many homes are completely dark for hours.  People have not even bought an extra couple of candles or any battery operated light sources.  Even in well-to-do neighborhoods you may hear only a lone generator going after a blackout.  This lack of preparedness is truly frightening and plays itself out again, again, and again every time services are disrupted for minor to major reasons.  It’s as if there is something wrong with storing extra food, water, and supplies.

Even after “lessons” played out to what happens to those non-prepared, most people still feel that it just cannot happen to them, or won’t ever happen to them again.  It should be proof enough to people what happens to those unprepared after disasters simply by looking at those that have gone through it firsthand.  The difference, though, comes in that these disasters have had recovery periods and help from others. Even Haiti received some help and conditions remain putrid over there.

After a TRUE SHTF, it is presumable that government help and others coming to the aid of those in need WON’T happen for long periods of time. During that time those that have chosen to not put food, water, and necessities away are going to be in life threatening positions.  Most people just don’t get that when the supermarket shelves are empty they will stay that way for an extended period.  When the utilities go down, especially water, it may be weeks, months, or longer before they come back, if ever.  Without what someone needs to survive each day, it is not going to magically appear, and depending on the goodwill of others to feed them and sacrifice their own family’s survival chances is a terrible choice.

People MUST know what life will be like after SHTF in mega fashion if they refuse to prepare.  This is NOT new. Terrible events have plunged people into the deepest levels of desperation and hopelessness, and they will happen again and again.

While the above consequences to the non-prepper are extremely abysmal for anyone to read, the simple fact of the matter is they have already happened time and time again to those that have nothing put away.  People have resorted to cannibalism and gone to levels of primitive savage behavior out of shear desperation and out of literally losing their minds to the physical depletion of food and water that keeps the physical body operating.  Sometimes showing the extreme severity and results of a person’s lack of action, such as failure of the simple act of putting away extra food, water, and supplies, can be the kick in the complacency that they need.

It’s really easy to put away food and supplies. All one has to do is add a little bit of extra food to the grocery cart for long-term storage. Over time this adds up to a well stocked pantry of supplies.

There is something that is in a can of food that everyone can eat and enjoy the taste of, so talk to family members about their nutritional preferences and start stocking up.  Toilet paper and other supplies that really don’t have any expiration date can be put away and forgotten about ’til needed.

There MUST be common sense and intelligence to see what happens IF they don’t stock up for the future.  There has to be the DESIRE to get started, and this is the real problem with so many.

Once started, however, prepping becomes a type of life saving routine or positive lifestyle habit.   It is easy and can and will save one from misery. It may save their life and the lives of their family from ruin when SHTF, which is almost inevitably going to happen someday.  Every month and year that goes by without a true SHTF event, makes it more likely that it will happen.  Basic statistical chance shows this to be the case, but people continue the same pattern of behavior that has led them to the same devastation countless time before.

For those preppers that have people around them that refuse to prepare, you can at least have some degree of solace knowing that you tried to show the non-prepping person(s) what not having anything will mean to them and their families.

All we can do is try. Once we’ve given it our best shot, all we can do is let those who have been warned about the direness of the possibilities live their lives the way that want to. They will, unfortunately, live in a world of regret and suffering if the nation and the world falls apart around them.

To every action there is an opposite equal reaction. Preppers will see their efforts have been more than worth it.  Objects that are motionless tend to remain motionless and non-preppers will find there are horrific consequences for their lack of effort and motion to put away “life insurance” preps for themselves and their families.

By Be Informed – ShtfPlan Contributor.

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    • Anonymous

      gather knowledge first and foremost stuff can leave you know how tends to stay around

    • Damien

      confinement
      desolation
      remoteness
      solitude
      aloneness
      concealment
      detachment
      exile
      hiding
      privateness
      quarantine
      reclusiveness
      retreat
      sequestration
      withdrawal
      beleaguerment
      monkhood
      reclusion
      seclusiveness

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        And shooting everyone on sight.

        • Net-in-YAHOO Says

          And, after I’ve run all the zombies up to your place dog-Idiot, and your out of bullets, I will have a full stocked shelter, with lots of zombies to abuse and “protect” my parameters from other zombies attacking!

          Thanks for HOARDING for me all these years, Doggie the idiot!
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        • Big dog.../small fish...

          Net-in-Yahoo says:
          I thought prepper couldn’t care less about others only THEMSELVES. Once all the shooting is over, they’ll have to reproduce amongst themselves in breed INBREDS (oops! That’s already the case in some parts of the southern states right?)

        • Damien

          If the people they are shooting at are preppers yes.

          They have been contaminated with / are the result of the anti-racism of (imposed on) blacks. But such sub group degeneracy is being imposed on the rest of the west too.

        • Big dog.../small fish...

          @Meidan

          Personally I believe that the times ahead will indeed be THE TEST for humanity. And it will require COOPERATION, COLLABORATION and EFFORTS from EVERYONE to get through it.
          My perception of PREPPERS is this: PARANOID & FANATICAL EGOISTS who will do ANYTHING to keep what they’d have ACCUMULATED (food, shelter, transportation etc.) WHO WILL TOTALLY REFUSE TO WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHERS (’cause of their paranoia) to get things back up again & running. These individuals will use extreme VIOLENCE to get what they ‘want(?)’. They will become AMERICAN barbarians of the 21st century.

    • James Smith

      The ones who didn’t prepare are dead, period, and that’s a provable fact. However I did purchase an extra ton of food for others…. I can only hope that patriots like me, did the same thing for there American comrades? /alternative/2014/08/america-is-under-attack-and-the-american-people-know-it-too-3015792.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2thwruo4kt4

    • ArmyVet502nd

      Good article!…

    • MSG Chicken

      Don’t forget manuals, survival books, Ye old time cookbooks, first-aid and medical books, and simple chemistry book also.

      But the most critical book should be the BIBLE!

      • WIDOWMAKER 92

        Well said but I’ll ad one thing. Having them is one thing but what is most important is memorization. In a bug out situation just having them is futile. Those things are hard to hump. If you can’t eat it, wear it, drink it, or shoot it your pulling yourself down. Am I preaching to the choir again? :wink: I’m sure those with a clue commenting here already know all this.

    • Ret. Marine

      It must suck to not realize you are this stupid to not prepare for the rainy days. What happened to the old fashion way of being aware of the economic levels of understanding once it was a conversation usually issued by our fathers, mothers and grandparents. The past few decades has brought to the fore, idiots, moochers, thieves in mass, plain ole stupid as stupid goes types who have no idea of how life actually works, nor do they seem to care. They were led to believe those 11 famous words once spoken of during the late to early 70s and 80s, “hi, I’m from the government and I am here to help you” Yeah you really think this is available today. You’d find yourself in a situation, a terrible one at that, where your days are now numbered because contrary to this belief, no they aren’t there to help you. For all the years of prosperity, false sense of security, and the many political nice speeches you once heard out of the first guy wanting your vote made, they failed to tell you, its all bravo-serria nonsense, you really didn’t believe they were telling you the truth, did you? Shame on you if you did, and I hope you understand when your family members, your children, loved one’s look at you for the comfort/solutions they are then seeking is not available out of you because you were an idiot and didn’t heed the warnings of the situation you now find yourself and family members are suffering through, once they realize you to be the one responsible for their losses, well like I stated in the first sentence, must suck to be this stupid, sure glad I was not of your mental midget attitude. I’ll be well fed, in good shape, I’ll even have the resources stashed away to defend it all, against your type if that times come.

      I am of the older generation, raised up through the fifties and 60s, just a coupe decades after world war 2, and just three away from the latest ‘great depression’, in fact raised by members of my family who survived it because of the wisdom handed down by their families, they lived through it, they handed down to me because they understood only the stupid never make it through tough times. I am sure grateful for being raised by these Christian ladies and gentlemen, they knew through hard choices and their families experiences of the past of the importance of preparing for most any thing life hands down on your plate of life.

      I’m not so sure I will be able to help others because I am just above the barely surviving levels of most others not because of no efforts on my part, but the way my life story had gone without control of it. As a disabled Veteran, I don’t exactly make a million dollars a year, in fact even at a rating of 100%, I receive ($32,740.00 annually-disability pension- while the average moocher to our system receives around $50,000.00- and don’t ever forget, you paid them to be stupid, lazy and unconcerned about you and yours) about 35%-below the average medium level of a second class member of this country, so its not as if I had any choice in the matter. I am however grateful for the support I receive for my service to country after being injured in combat to my fellow country men/ladies. I don’t live at/or on the poverty line, damned close, and no cigar as they say. I only tell you this because even with good intentions on my part, I will most likely be another who just can help you even if I wanted to, do you and others think I like this stage in life, why no, of course not, but little choices is paramount to no choice, that’s just the way it is.

      DO you and your family members a huge favor, make it a concerted effort to involve every one of them, family members also extended as well, in the preparing process, with many mind comes many solution to problem you are going to face in an ugly situation, before it actually hits all of us. That good ole better a bird in the hand versus in the bush thing will greatly apply so get with it and get prepared, even if its just the love of family that concerns you. You and most importantly your family, will be forever grateful for your insight and preparedness when it matters most. Good Luck and GOD Bless, take care to take care.

      Semper Fi.

      .

      • CrowPie

        “As a disabled Veteran, I don’t exactly make a million dollars a year, in fact even at a rating of 100%, I receive ($32,740.00 annually-disability pension-”

        I hate to tell you….but since you and I both receive disability…….we are considered ‘the moochers’……..and that’s a fact. It doesn’t matter what wars we fought in…..we get a check from the gub’ment……….we’re TAKERS.

        • Ret. Marine

          WE are not moochers, this was a promise ( an actual CONTRACT) made to all veterans of this nation to care for them if they become unable to make a living as a result of broken bodies during active duty deployment, or otherwise, it doesn’t matter how it happened, just that it DID happen to us. Who cares what these uneducated idiots think anyway, I am armed and of sound mind and even being disabled you could still sit me in a hole in the field and still for a thousand meters all around me, well care to guess what happens to fools? Thanks for the reply CrowPie, I do understand, its just too bad these real moochers don’t but they will witness what happens when they decide to tangle with even a disabled Veteran, oh, and I must warn, I intend upon securing no prisoners, nor quarters for them in the event they decide to commit suicide. I jope and pray for them they don’t make me, make the choice for them, I am one hard and angry individual these days, nothing like a session of “payback is a dish best served cold”. Its long ago over due and I suspect I’m not the only veteran watching what is transpiring in this time and thinking to myself, some seem to be asking for it, I hope they have the wisdom to understand to be careful of what you wish, it just may become their reality. Good luck, n take care my fellow Patriot.

          Semper Fi.

        • CrowPie

          Thank you for your reply. You have just said……what I have said many times here on BIN……..Often conservatives throw around the word “takers,” ‘Moocher” and the like……forgetting that the ultra conservative…..FORGETS that the disabled veteran, retired military, and civilian disabled receive those checks under a signed contract…..an insurance policy…..

          Thank you for your service…..and your reply.

        • bozzchem

          @ CrowPie:

          PLEASE provide EVIDENCE where a “conservative” or even an “ultra conservative” has labeled a disabled veteran as a “moocher” or as a “taker”.

        • CrowPie

          Mitt Romneys “private” 48% speech debacle. He made no exception for disabled veterans or otherwise. ANYONE drawing ANY check is a TAKER.

          In fact…..most conservatives want to end ALL checks including Current Social Security Retirement checks…..all you have to do is listen closely to what Ron Paul REALLY has to say on the subject.

          Wouldn’t that be GREAT? Then you or Your Parents would have to go back to work…(If they are able) and can pay taxes again! Cause that’s what the government REALLY cares most about….Getting you to pay taxes….

        • CrowPie

          Most often….it’s what a person is NOT saying…..that should speak loudest in your ear.

        • bozzchem

          BS. More like some people hear what they want to hear.

          Mitt is a twit.

          That being said, no conservative throws veterans under the bus.

        • CrowPie

          I notice that you deleted my original comment referring to the fact that conservatives haven’t been pulling any disabled vets out from under any buses….

          Vets screamed about the VA for decades and the only thing anyone heard from conservatives was, “Takers, Takers, Takers, Takers, Takers, Takers, Takers!”

          Why are there so many homeless vets since conservatives are so concerned? Why did Ron Paul write a budget that cut the budget provisions for vets? Don’t tell me conservatives care…….

        • Mayhem

          Great work CrowPie: I like how you built your argument and didn’t lay all your cards on the table at once.

          In my opinion the biggest benefit from sites, like B4IN, is that folk get to see Truth holding forth. Rock on girlfriend.

        • CrowPie

          Thank you Mayhem. :smile: You’ve made my evening.

    • stompk

      Do not fear death.

    • bigron4570

      Ya prepping is all just fine and dandy if you have the extra money to do it.I live on a fixed and very limited budget I cant hardly afford to pay my bills let alone horde away supplies.But you know the Lord God has always protected me and my family and the Lord has always made sure I never went without so you all go ahead and store up your supplies I will wait upon the Lord to help take care of my family and myself and if I die in the process well then so be it that’s the Lords decision not mine so with Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior I have no fear and no worries for he will protect me until the day that I go home to be with the Lord..START PUTTING YOUR FAITH IN THE LORD AND NOT IN YOURSELVES AND THE WORLD..

      • StormyB4

        I wish you the best of luck. You will need it!!

      • Colt

        The Lord helps those who help themselves.

    • Gazinbali

      Are you sick of WAR WAR WAR..??

      Its all they think of… Its all they know.. kill or be killed..

      A viscious circle of unending Death…

      Is that the future?

      Is that YOUR future..? It need not be !

      The nations were in an uproar, the kingdoms were overthrown;
      He raised his voice, and the earth melted.
      7 Jehovah of armies is with us; The God of Jacob is our secure refuge.
      8 Come and witness the activities of Jehovah,
      How he has done astonishing things on the earth.
      9 He is bringing an end to wars throughout the earth.
      He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
      He burns the military wagons with fire.
      10 “Give in and know that I am God.
      I will be exalted among the nations; I will be exalted in the earth.”
      Psalms 36.

      Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people.
      And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,and death
      will be no more,neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.
      The former things have passed away.” 5 And the One seated on the throne said:
      Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”
      Rev 21:3-5

      Find the ONE organisation that will not support war in ANY country.

      <<>>

      Those trusting in WAR to resolve the worlds problems are doomed to fail.. worse yet..
      YOU could be the next casualty.. Investigate now… and survive the final end.

      • Mayhem

        Join the religion that has failed with several prophecies and have ousted their leader/elder at least twice. No thanks.

    • bozzchem

      How horrific SHOULD it be for those who have refused to prepare???

      Everyone has a CHOICE to prepare or not.

      Let’s see…..you can buy a HUGE TV for about $2500……OR you can spend that same $2500 on storable food, water and necessities for your family.

      If you choose the TV and the power grid goes down? You have a huge paperweight. That was YOUR choice.

      Some of us chose otherwise….and have also chosen to defend our decision with lethal force from those who chose foolishly.

    • Colt

      I don’t think too many people realize just how bad it could get if our country goes down. IF we actually lose grids, people will find out real quick what survival is all about.

      I don’t know of a single country on this planet that hasn’t encountered some type of upheaval in their history. America is about past A great many people will die in the first 6 months of a SHTF….either by starvation or roving bands of thugs.

      Even if you aren’t preparing for a real SHTF event, harsh winters can leave people stranded in their homes without heat, water or food. At the very least, people should consider having a winter supply of necessities. Anyone who hasn’t set aside even a few months of dried beans, rice, flour, salt, vitamins and a few spices for seasoning is just plain foolish in my opinion. I’ve only listed a VERY few items that could save your life.

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        ”Anyone who hasn’t set aside even a few months of dried beans, rice, flour…”
        Okay, it’s my understanding that IF the USofA comes to a point where the SHTF, there won’t be electricity and fresh water to cook dried beans, rice and make bread out of flour.

        • Big dog.../small fish...

          Where did the comment I responded to go??

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