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Screams Of The Damned In Hell Recorded by Geologists & A Man Who Died, Went To Hell, & Lived to Talk About It…

Sunday, February 16, 2014 22:28
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A geological group from Siberia drilled a hole about 14.4 kilometers down into the crust of the earth. It was a normal work day for the group, but unbeknownst to them something was about to happen that would change their lives for eternity.

While drilling they discovered an open space, a ‘pocket’ beneath the earth’s crust. Interested in their peculiar find, they decided to take a temperature reading and found that it was 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Eager to gain more information about the mysterious pit, the group lowed a microphone into the hole to gage any plate movement…but that was far from what they found.  

Instead strange noises were picked up of which they thought were equipment problems. But after adjusting the equipment and sending it down a second time the noises continued and the men were terrified at what they had heard. Blood-curdling cries and screams were coming from what one could only assume was the souls of those being tortured in Hell. Out of sheer fear, they abandoned the project and caped the hole permanently.

Dr. Azzacove, the director of the project, said this shocking statement about his experience:

“The discovery was nevertheless the most shocking to our ears, so much so that the scientists are afraid to continue the project. We tried to listen to the Earth’s movements at certain intervals with supersensitive microphones, which were let down through the hole. What we heard turned those logically thinking scientists into trembling ruins. It was sometimes a weak, but high pitched sound which we thought to be coming from our own equipment. But after some adjustments we comprehended that indeed the sound came from Earth’s interior. We could hardly believe our own ears. We heard a human voice, screaming in pain. Even though one voice was discernible, we could hear thousands, perhaps millions, in the background, of suffering souls screaming. After this ghastly discovery, about half of the scientists quit because of fear. Hopefully, that which is down there will stay there.”

Here is the frightening video recording gathered by Dr. Azzacove, which was given to Art Bell….

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Whether you want to believe hell is a real place or not is up to you, but from my point of view, it is very, very real….

“But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Matthew 25:46

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” Matthew 25:41

“…and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:50

“If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.” Mark 9:43

“They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:42

“If God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment… if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.” 2 Peter 2:4-9

“Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” Matthew 10:28

 

Maybe you are left with one question: How can God be full of love and still send people to hell?

Before I became a believer this question was one of my ‘justifications’ for not believing in God. After all if a loving God could send people to hell, then was He really loving after all? Well, the answer is an astounding YES! He is a loving God. He is loving because He defines what love is. He is the creator of the universe, the Alfa and Omega, and love is the very character of God. God may act in ways that we deem as unloving by our standards, but to Him they are not unloving. Gods ways are above our ways and his thoughts are above our thoughts. We cannot put love into a box and say, “this is what love looks like.” The only person who has that authority to do that is God Himself because He created love and he opted to share it with each one of us. 

Now, that we have established that God is a God of love and the very creator of it, let’s go back to the question. How can a God be full of love and still send people to hell?  My answer is this, God laid out everything on the table. He said if you accept me as your Lord and Savior and love me then you are set free. His plan was not to ‘send you to hell’ rather his plan was that you would share eternity with Him. God does not ‘send’ us to hell, rather, he gives us the option to choose.

Okay, you say, maybe God lets you choose. But he still allows it. Which leads me back to this question. Can God be loving and still allow people to go to hell? Well to that question I would then have to answer, yes. You see God is love and remember he acts in ways that seem unloving to us, but by his standards they are not. Remember too that God has many characteristics and He is not only known for sharing his love and mercy, but he is also known for frequently pouring out his wrath towards sin. So my final question to you then is this, are you willing to accept that? God does what is just, right and loving, can you trust Him on this?

*Recommended Reading: Francis Chan- “Erasing Hell”

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  • Dregone

    This is extremely old news and has been proven fake so many times! Over and over and over again….

    • jc

      Proven fake? Please reference your evidence proving it is fake other than your word. I like all sides of the story. I am not trying to stir up anger, just see your viewpoint and evidence regarding this.

      • Krispy Critter

        A Troll does not have to prove anything.

        “Dregone” Troll don’t you ever give up? I think it is about time. You are old news, yawn.

        Yes the “Dregone” Troll is a big yawn, and one “Dregone” Troll yawn leads to another “Dregone” Troll yawn and another… and another…. TROLL … Y_a_w_n… until little TROLL “Dregone” falls quietly asleep, having little Troll dreams.

      • jc

        @Merkin…wiki…..really…

        That’s your ref? Ok.

      • Merkin

        jc

        The scream from hell audio about siberiaSuomi Finland is not up for debate at this point if you bothered to look before posting a couple of challenges. You need to actually check mainstream out as well to get some footing. Yes even wiki. What are you offering us instead?

        This article should have an update to include the audio on that video is from a hoax. Doesn’t discount the message in her article but seriously this has been hashed out on this site more times than I can count.

      • Mayhem

        You’re right about that Merkin. I almost ignored the thread based on it’s title but i see that the other side think they have you isolated.

        Yes this is hoax audio; yes we have known this for some time; yes we will see it again, and again. Good work, brother Merkin.

      • jc

        @Merkin….respectfully, i did listen and read several different testimonies….but not having personally met any of the witnesses….still not sure….are there inconsistencies…yes, but did you happen to read the following…http://hellandheaventestimonies.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/scientist-who-dug-into-hell-in-siberia-and-recorded-the-cries-of-the-damned-souls/
        ? I guess i will respectfully agree to disagree with your stand. Moving on. Btw…thanks for the references…..good readings and audio…. Peace be with you.

      • Merkin

        jc

        I’m going to apologize for a moment because it took me longer than I thought to dig up the goods. Challenge accepted. Sound Clip is from Movie “Blood Baron”

        The link below is from a Christian who believes 100% in Hell.
        He reveals “the illusion” bare for all to hear/see.

        Sounds of Hell Debunked
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWo6kTsoiv4

        I wish you peace back.

        ART BELL SHOW
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnxeX2SQso

      • jc

        @Merkin…great evidence. Thanks again for taking the time to help clear this up!!!

      • Clark

        Clearly debunked by a Christian:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWo6kTsoiv4

        Even so, it really does sound terrifying and may well approximate the torments of hell. Hard to otherwise imagine the sheer horrors and pains and angers and rage and insanity of a self inflicted eternity – all because they refused to let go of their sins and delusions to serve and embrace a loving God.

        For the critics who can’t fathom a God who would create a real world with real responsibilities and real choices with real consequences, and who has set a limit and a day for judgment – well, there’s little I can say to you.

    • Nancy636

      Yes, old news, but as far as being proven fake. I did not see evidence of that I ever. They can’t prove it. That is not necessarily true. If Anyone says they have, its all conjecture! People hope it’s fake, I’ll say that that much. It is that fear is in everyone subconscious which it very well should be. Even if it is fake. Hell is still real. Your choice, same for all of us. We are given testimonies of few that were shown as to warn us. Believe it or not. There is that word choice again.

  • liberty

    STILL…I think someone should send this Video to the Oval Office and even all of the Senate!

  • Blackie the faithful border collie

    You sound like a rational human being, I’m in. Get me a pint of holy water to ward hell off.

  • Charandr

    Same fake internet story been going round and round for 25 yrs. now.

    http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp

  • Pix

    What you mean the Russian recording of geological sounds (tectonic plate movement) in a deep mine? And some religious nut case working himself up over a nightmare?

    I had a nightmare I was being chased by a T-Rex in a carpark of all places, because I’d watched Jurassic park that evening with the kids. It means nothing at all, don’t read/watch stuff that is likely to give you nightmares just before going to bed. DER.

    :lol:

    • Mayhem

      Yep that’s what is meant i’m sure.

  • Dragnet714

    Mat 12:40 “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
    So I’m asking Dregone where is the “heart” of the earth? And why would He go there? And if He went there to set the “captives” free, what was He setting them free “from”? I submit to you it was “Hell”.. Let’s say it was “fake”. Just the fact that it “might exist” should be enough for a prudent person to consider their eternal destination.

    • Pix

      Yep, and we all know we can live inside a fish… not.

      That’s some really intelligent god you have there, who can’t tell the difference between a whale and a fish and thinks an air breathing mammal can live inside one.

      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • jc

        Kinda seems that way when we “lean on our own understanding”. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

      • Pix

        “jc
        Kinda seems that way when we “lean on our own understanding”. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm”

        What justification do you have to insult our ability to understand? A whale is a whale not a fish, and we can’t live inside either.

        :lol:

      • jc

        Pix…i am not trying to insult you. If you would humor me, check out the following… http://www.letusreason.org/Biblexp122.htm

        Please tell me what you think.

  • Jarheadusmc

    In Catholic history, in the annals of the religious orders and priesthood, are thousands of testimonies of visions of hello, of people responding from hell to ask people not to pray for them, etc. The devil delights in two ways from peoples actions and thoughts; his joy is that either people don’t believe in hell or that they turn their soul over to the devil.

    Blessed Jacinta of Fatima and many Catholic saints and visionaries have been given visions of hell and the poor sinners that go their for all eternity. God does not send a person to hell, rather the person themselves puts there own selves in hell.

    God is infinite Mercy, He is mercy itself, but God is also Justice and His Majesty demands both Justice and Mercy. No matter how many sins, no matter how terrible or horrible your sins, if you, prior to your death, amend your life, ask for forgiveness of your sins, have a firm purpose of amendment, ask or desire to know the truth, God forgives. However, if you die unrepentant, if you die in your sins, even if it be just “one” mortal sin, unconfessed, unrepentant, etc, you will lose you soul for all eternity.

    When you die, your soul, your intellect, you “will” is at that moment frozen in that state for all eternity, you are judged according to the state you are in at the particular judgement, the moment you die you are judged right their on the spot, period. So, it is not God, who ultimately sends you to heaven or hell, but yourself, your state of mind in which you presented yourself to the Creator in. It is you that condemns yourself. God is not good, or loving, etc, He is the very embodiment of good and love, He is love, charity, goodness in themselves and His being, infinite and His Majesty cannot exist with those that are abhorrent because of their sins.

    Each one of the Ten Commandments encompasses many related sins, of the ten the first three are the most severe because they are against the Majesty of God Himself, the other seven are sins against God’s laws and against our fellow man. Do you put your job, wife, husband, passions, emotions, house, car, job, sports, money, whatever, above God either all the time or at times – these are sins against the first three Commandments, the most serious.
    Is it too much for people to realize that “using the Lords name in vain” is worse than murder, so say’s God and His Commandments. ‘My ways are not your way’s sayeth the Lord”. We like to make God into our own god, we like God to believe what we believe, we like God to pardon and ignore our sins because they make us feel good – this is the deification of man – of man making God, or fashioning a God in our minds who is obedient to “our feelings and emotions” this is what is happening today – “apostasy” both in the highest echelons of the Church, at the very top all the way down to us minions.

    But God will not be mocked and history tells us, warns us, that very soon we are in for a very serious, violent, apocalyptic correction.

    • jamesmcshoreline

      While I agree with the general direction of your post, you left out the most important part: Jesus. He died for our sins.

      That being said, perhaps you might want to revisit your post with that in mind.

      • Omega Files

        Catholics tend to create their own ‘feel good’ doctrines.

  • XYZ

    Just did a quick search for this as it’s clearly BS designed to scare people who already believe in religion. Why would any normal nice Christian do that anyway? And the church wonders why they’re losing people :???:
    http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/The-Sounds-of-Hell-Serbian-Scientists-Record

    • jc

      The church is losing followers because of the falling away and that fact we were foretold that men would become lovers of self. We pray all are drawn….

      • Wetpaint

        No, people are leaving the church because they’re finally waking to the fact that they’ve been lied to all along. Religion, what a perfect tool to control stupid people….. I bet you’re all exited, the egg laying rabbit will be here soon too ey.

    • jc

      @Wetpaint…lied to? It is up to the individual to discern. imhbelief…we weren’t told the entire story and much was hidden by the church….but all will be revealed. However, the real “church” as referred to by our Lord and Savior, has always been the group of believers in Him. Salvation is free for the taking and only by the grace of God , through faith in Jesus.
      Btw..my family and I celebrate Resurrection Day….not Easter.

  • MG

    That sound track was actually in a movie. But it’s not from Hell. It’s from where they keep all the missing people. That is their way of being able to tell you the truth without telling you the truth. They are using Snell’s Law to rule the earth.

  • slider

    BIN has now become the worst tabloid BS site on the Web. What happened? Seems to have become a religious nut house. Thought I would cruise by on the holiday, my bad.

    • MoneyMike

      Agree completely, maybe more moderators are needed with the ability to remove this trash. It’s not that it shouldn’t be included somewhere on BIN, but the fact that there are so many of these types of articles now that they are crowding out actual important and factual news topics. Also, if you want to link to BIN and would like to invite someone who’s never been to the site before to check it out, you will almost be too embarrassed to do so. Credibility is hemorrhaging.

  • AMERICA HAS RISEN

    Folks let me just get this clear. The microphone these guys lowered down could withstand +2000 degrees worth of heat?

  • Jacksdad

    I can hear the ocean in a sea shell, or a piece of pipe at Home Depot.
    Seriously, the deepest hole ever drilled was the 12.26 km deep, the Kola Superdeep Borehole, on the Kola peninsula in the northwest corner of Russia. They stopped because the temps reached 350 deg, not 2000 deg and no they didn’t hear the damned screaming from hell, but they did hear the normal moans heard from any deep hole.

    • Neo

      So you know all the dark places in the earth?

  • Painless

    So God “Loves” you if he sends you to hell to burn forever in torment and torture? That’s not a God, it’s a little kid that has to have it’s way. You have the creator of the universe confused with a lesser demi-god that came to earth and claimed it for himself. As far as Hell goes, there is not such word mentioned in the bible until the King James version. Even some bibles still have that passage in Matthew that you quoted (10:28) as hell by using the Greek word Gehenna. “Sheol” was the original reference to a place outside of the old city and was a place where Baal was worshiped and sacrifices were made, along with the worship of Molech as well. Both were Canaanite Gods. Like most things in the bible the “truth” is based on things entirely different now than when they were conceived. It was metamorphasized in to the concept of hell, once the King James version came out and the preachers got a hold of the term as a place of everlasting punishment to get their followers to conform. The true hell is in the minds of men and the way they torture themselves and others. There is no place called hell. The “lake of fire ” refers to the sun.

    • Neo

      Can’t see the forest for the trees, Eh?

    • BigSky

      Well, for the sincere Bible student and scholar, who considers the scriptures as the final and definitive authority, this article is certainly false. How in the world could I make such a claim, when the word “hell” is used 29 times in the Old Testament, and 22 times in the New Testament? Just as in the current news and political sphere, ignorant people (not necessarily stupid, just uninformed) embrace whatever they’re told, and whatever appears on the surface to be true. Most don’t even question the belief that the unsaved and the desperately wicked will be tortured forever in hellfire. But is that what the scriptures teach in the original Hebrew and Greek languages? Positively not! In the Old Testament, “sheol” is translated pit and grave, but surprisingly it is also mistranslated, “hell” (which is an old English word for a pit used as a root cellar). The actual meaning in the Bible is “grave.” The New Testament word “hades” is the Greek translation of the word “sheol” (Compare Acts 2:7 and Psalm 16:10, a prophecy that foretold of Jesus’ resurrection from the dead). Both mean the grave. In reference to sin, it relates to the wage of sin, that is, the penalty for Adam’s transgression (Genesis 2:17; 3:19 and Romans 6:23), death (not hellfire). God did not warn Adam that if he sinned, he would be sent to eternal torment, but instead. He said very plainly that the penalty was death, nothing more and nothing less. And so it was on the day that man sinned, he was banished from the Garden of Eden (where he regularly ate of the life sustaining trees plants that preserved his body in perfect condition), that when he was removed from the garden, he began to die. His body was in such perfect condition that it took over seven hundred years to complete the dying process. That dying process brought imperfection to his body and mind, which meant that in addition to aches and pains and the aging he never experienced before this, he saw that it affected his thoughts, ability to rationalize, and even his emotions. The result of imperfection upon a highly moral being, made after the image of his creator, brought forth sinful behavior. This same imperfection was passed on to man’s offspring, so that, try as they might, be no human being would be able to live a sinless life. As a result of Adam’s sin, the entire race received the death sentence.

      The other word translated “hell” in the New Testament is “Gehenna,” which was actually a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem, that was used as a metaphor by Jesus to describe the total annihilation (complete destruction) of evil, and of death itself at the end of His 1000 year kingdom (Millennial Kingdom). Gehenna is also pictured as the Lake of Fire in Revelation 20:14,15. We read that evil men are thrown there, and in verse 14, death (thanatos) and hell (hades, meaning “grave”) will be thrown here as well. It symbolizes the annihilation, or complete destruction of sin, and those who choose to willfully follow Satan at the end of Christ’s Millennial Kingdom (when Satan is loosed, as a final test upon mankind). And not only that, it shows that even death shall be destroyed. How ridiculous it would be to consider the Lake of Fire as a literal place where suffering is endured, for it would mean that the condition of death, and the grave, is supposedly tortured there. It is extremely clear to a sincere Bible student and scholar that the condition of death (which is the last enemy to be destroyed- 1 Corinthians 15:26) will be completely eliminated. An important truth that is clearly seen in scripture, is that the penalty for sin is not eternal hellfire, but death. This is what God warned Adam about, and what was exacted on him, and the human family through him. Jesus’ death (the ransom) was to remove that curse, and give mankind an opportunity for eternal life. Many people believe err in their belief that at the end of this life, billions of earth’s former inhabitants will be resurrected back into their bodies, then sentenced before God to eternal hellfire. However, the scriptures declare that everyone will be resurrected; both the justified (faithful Christians, who shall receive a heavenly reward), and the unjustified, who shall receive a resurrection unto judgment. Their judgment period shall last 1000 years. During this time, the scriptures declare that Satan shall be bound and prevented from influencing mankind in any way. What’s more, God’s Spirit shall be on all flesh, so that it will not be necessary to tell others about God, for all shall know Him. During this time of blessing, men will learn how to live in harmony and love toward one another. Matthew 25:31-46 illustrates how God determines which ones will be judged worthy of receiving eternal life on earth. Those who are rebellious and self-willed, will die for the second time (the Second Death), and never again be resurrected. Ecclesiastes 9:5 says that the dead are dead, not living, for they do not know anything. They shall be totally destroyed in the Lake of Fire, the Second Death, and this sentence is everlasting. There are no screams in hell (the grave), which is the complete absence of life, which Jesus came to bring. For Jesus said, “I have come that they might have life, and that more abundantly.”

      For those who suppose that the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) is a literal account of a man who went to a fire-burning hell, think again. Are we to believe that the rich man went to hell because he was rich, both dining well, and having nice clothing, while Lazarus went to Abraham’s Bosom (not heaven) because he was poor and was full of sores? This is a parable of the severe judgment that the nation of Israel would suffer for rejecting their Messiah, Jesus. They would be rejected from being the primary ones to receive the Gospel of Christ, and the heavenly reward. The Lazarus class pictured the Gentiles. The fixed gulf between the believers in Christ, who were primarily gentiles, was their belief or disbelief in the Son of God. The Jews, who had been given the prophecies foretelling of the Messiah, through Moses and the other prophets, should have been heeded.

      Yes, anyone that believes God’s Word, and searches the scriptures to discover the truth, will plainly know that the claims of this article is built on falsehood.

    • Omega Files

      God has never and will never force anyone to love Him. Therefore hell and judgment are necessary in order to give people what they truly desire. Those that truly want to be with Messiah will inherit the kingdom of heaven, and those that do not will inherit the judgment of hell. We will not be able to claim ignorance, for we have been exposed to the evidence. We are either for Messiah or against Him; there is no middle ground. The evidence and Truth, being so clear, removes any claim of a middle ground.

    • BigSky

      I commend you for your witness of the truth. I would say that in principle you are totally correct, except that “gehenna,” not “sheol,” was the location of the garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. Also, the Lake of Fire did not refer to the sun. This passage is found in the highly symbolical book of Revelation (Rev. 20:14,15), and this lake is another picture of Gehenna, which is also called the Second Death. It signifies the annihilation of evil, and the final destruction of death itself, at the close of Christ’s Millennial Kingdom. At that time Satan shall be loosed for a short time to test mankind, and those who love righteousness will resist him, but those who are self-willed and rebellious shall be tempted to sin against God, and then be destroyed. For them, having already died once, then resurrected into the Kingdom, and then failing the test for life, will die the second time. This is the reason it is called the Second Death. Ecclesiastes 9:5 says that death is complete nothingness, so there is no torment or suffering possible. From this state there shall be no future resurrection. It is an everlasting judgment.

  • Lee

    A few years ago I died, I was in a coma and after 5 days I came out and was revived, however at some point I left my body and went into what I know as the valley of the shadow of death, while there a blackness grew closer and closer, and I did hear these exact same sounds coming from it, this is the truth, I wrote a short book about it, called “5 Days in the Valley of the Shadow of Death” hell is real and these were the sounds I heard, I urge you all, please except pardon from it, thru Jesus, you don’t want to go there,

    • Big Craig

      I hope Michael isn’t there now

  • Arcturus

    Someone left a window open in the IRS office. This is a very old story. Art Bell used it on his show in the 1990s. Listen carefully. Use some of the critical thinking you should have learned in school.

  • Big Craig

    2000 degrees F would be about 1000 odd in Celsius – how the bloody hell would a microphone work in such temperatures? The sound heard was probably the mic melting.

    Unless it was a mic from Katie Perry or Beyonce, them things must be specially treated not to spontaneously combust as they are on the wrong side of the voice manipulation box.

  • FusedNail

    I don’t love God because I fear Satan. This is Qur’an logic.

    • Krispy Critter

      God can cast your soul into hell. (Get right… or else)

      If you belong to Satan, then you are already there. (loser)

      Your logic does not add up correctly. Not at all.

      Good luck.

  • afterdinner

    As a (semi) short answer whether Hell (and Heaven) are real places, I would first address the Las Vegas round: if one is sure you are master of incredible probability, the prove it by going to a casino. 5 to 1 odds? 10 to 1? 100 to 1? Would you put your money on these odds? Would you then put your money at 1 billion to 1? There are esti. 10^80 molecules in the universe, or 1 folloed by 80 zeroes. Yet, some people will effectively say “I believe that accidents will somehow (we don’t know the means) one day this theory will prove correct) create intricate constructs.” Sagan est. that the chances of life forming anywhere in universe is 1 in 5000 billion (or something like that), but he claimed to still believe in accidents (atheism). Imagine just one molecule, some have 50 ‘links’ of amino acids, some 100, or 500 or more. DNA molecule has 186,000. Imagine throwing 100 poker chips numbered 1 to 100 in the air and accidental theory states that they will form a perfect sequence 1 to 100. How many times would you throw until that happened? A nice ‘theory’ but where is the proof? For a link of something like 19 poker chips (or amino acid chain) the probability of forming in perfect sequence is 1 in 10^128. That’s for just one molecule. This would have to happen many times to form just a single living cell.

    Pasteur disproved ‘spontaneous generation’ among others. Life only comes from life. Species do not morph into other species. Nothing does not create something. These are scientific LAWS. Yet ‘evolution’ (accidentalism) is still a theory after 150 years and it contradicts these and other scientific laws. Empirical science says prove it by experiment/observation that others can duplicate. Evolution fails all acid tests. It’s ‘icons’ have been demolished. But instead of saying, well, hm, yes we were wrong, evolutionists ignore these previous icons and create others, again with caveat ‘one day they will be proven’ … in the meantime there is no hard science to prove ‘theories.’

    But to return to probabilities: the Bible is the only document that passes all acid tests, including probabilities. Its textual accuracy is the highest of any handwritten text in history; 5,000 copies of Old Testament and 25,000 copies of NT virtually match in every word, written in different times and places. Skeptics say that the OT prophecies were written after the events, because they can’t explain their 100% accuracy. This would mean that 5000 copies were forged and buried and fooled everyone all these centuries. That argument fails completely. Jesus fulfilled these OT prophecies, about 300, something like 60 major prophecies. He fulfilled over 3 dozen on the day of His crucifixion. For one person to fulfill ‘just’ 3 dozen major prophecies is about 1 in 10^130. Again, naturalistic arguments fail miserably.

    I would point you to UK apologetics, an excellent website that exposes Darwin as a mediocre scientist. He was not in the class of Pasteur or other major names of that period who were opponents of evolution. Modern science was founded mainly by people who tested the Bible and came away as believers in its scientific, historical, etc. accuracy. These would include the ‘A list’ names in science, physics, chemistry, math, astronomy, medicine, geology etc etc… including Newton (probably the # scientist of all)…. it is ‘curious’ to note that the A list scientists opposed Darwin, while the B list were Darwinists, and these could not provide any experimental/observational proofs …. the same as today.

    But to round out: again, after 150 years evolution is still a ‘theory.’ Why is this so, if it claims to be ‘proven without a doubt’? It should be a scientific law, and further demonstrating the actual mechanism on how ’100 poker chips’ can be thrown in the air and land in perfect sequence, not just once but again and again and again. It is propaganda, smoke and mirrors, the ignorance of actual history in science (etc).

    Jesus stated He is God. He also stated the OT is authentic history … ie, Creation by Him … and that Heaven and Hell are real places. If anyone can match His credentials, then let us find that person. But give us facts. And if you want to attack the historicity of Jesus and/or the Bible, then bring the facts on. For a fun read see C. S. Lewis Screwtape letters, where a ‘funny’ devil demonstrates how to fool mortals. It is a matter of precise thinking. First, we have to look at the basic questions: how non-life matter can become life … from there we can go on to smaller issues. But don’t ignore the larger issues, and cloud up the screen with countless other theories. Prove your basic theory first.

    • Mayhem

      There’s a law of probability that states one times ten to the power of fifty (1E50) is safely considered to be absolute or at least close enough that it can’t reasonably be argued against. Underline ‘reasonably’.

      Did you mention or might i add another opinion for anyone, american’s particularly, who might be interested?

      Famous Harvard Law Professor considered by many to be the foremost legal expert on evidence the world has known, Simon Greenleaf. His dissertation following a challenge to refute the Biblical narrative is an afternoons reading at most.

      The best expert the world has ever known on the Law of evidence. The evidence in question was the Birth, Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s gotta count, surely!

      I could list dozens of lettered and published scholars each highly respected in their particular specialities. I’ll make do with a personal favourite.

      Contemporaneously:

      “I claim to be an historian. My approach to Classics is historical. And I tell you that the evidence for the life, the death, and the resurrection of Christ is better authenticated than most of the facts of ancient history . . .”

      E. M. Blaiklock
      Professor of Classics
      Auckland University.

      I haven’t even got to the bible thumpers who do the double act science degree on the side. There is no way that any competent reader and self aware critical cynic could read the Word for Themselves and come away an Atheist.

  • Jiliane

    You need to put your talents to the betterment of humanity. Get a relationship with God and you will find out there is no heaven or hell. Only work to be done in the reclamation of knowledge of all manifested life in the universe. To actually be in relationship with your source, that you seem to quote constantly, but know nothing about. The teachings of antiquity are just that. God sent them for those moments in the growth of humanity, they will not help in these times. Try reading secrets of heaven to know your God.
    God has never left humanity, humanity has failed to listen to God.
    We all need new teachings to find direction and purpose in life. If we cannot fix our mistakes, then we must live in our errors.

  • FusedNail

    Your god will punish someone indefinitely for crimes with temporary repercussions? That is some god you’ve got there.

  • No time

    These screams are actually coming from a local whore house, probably some body didn’t get paid.

  • Charas Mayhem

    Why is there so many religious nutters on a conspiracy site? Cant BIN give them a section of their own, where they can preach their religion and the rest of us don’t have to filter through their crap? They are ruining this site with their constant rubbish! :sad:

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