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Another Veteran Raided & His Firearms Confiscated – Must Appear Before Judge For Mental Evaluation/Alert

Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:35
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From: Steve Quayle
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:45 AM
To: John Rolls

Begin forwarded message:

From: Steve Quayle
Date: August 22, 2012 10:44:39 PM MDT
To: Darrell

Steve, please call me at your earliest convenience. I have some breaking information regarding an Army combat veteran (and Christian) in Ohio who was just raided this evening for the same reasons Brandon Raub was arrested. There were no criminal charges, no suspicions of criminal activity charge, and he was notarrested but all of his firearms were confiscated and he has been given a notice to appear before a judge. He is a Purple Heart recipient, no criminal background, no issues with prior VA psych evals. I just got off the phone with him and would like to pass along all of the information (and there is quite a bit) so others can be made aware of what is happening.
At 18:40 EST on 22/Aug/2012, I received a call from a very close friend of mine in west central Ohio, claiming he had just had all firearms confiscated. At first I thought he was joking, as we often do, so I made some sarcastic remarks, but he continued explaining what he had gone through. I stopped him and asked if he was being serious or just pulling my leg. He assured me he was being serious. I’ll provide you with the details as best I can- he conveyed all of this information to me during our second phone conversation after I had returned home at approximately 20:30 EST.
A search warrant was executed by Miami County Ohio Sheriff’s deputies at approximately 1730 EST at the home of my friend, at the exact time he was returning home from work. The minute he got in the back door from the garage, there was a knock at the front door, and a cruiser pulled up directly behind his truck (which he could see from inside the house.) There were seven Sheriff’s deputies in total, and the warrant they produced gave them the ability to find, secure, and obtain any deadly weapons. The reason stated on the warrant was for the “safety of the defendant (my friend,) and the general public.” The order was signed by a local judge around noon on 21/Aug/2012.
My friend was able to read off parts of the warrant to me, and I transcribed them as best I could:
“…Defendant shall not possess, use, carry, or obtain any deadly weapon and shall turn over all deadly weapons in defendant’s possession to the law enforcement agency that serves this order. Any law enforcement agency is authorized to take possession of deadly weapons pursuant to this paragraph and hold them in protective custody until further court order…”
“…if defendant is in possession of deadly weapons, defendant is guilty of violating Ohio revised code 2923.13(5). Whoever violates this section is guilty of having weapons while under disability, a felony of the third degree…”
Here’s the revised code the warrant referred to:
“2923.13 Having weapons while under disability.
(5) The person is under adjudication of mental incompetence, has been adjudicated as a mental defective, has been committed to a mental institution, has been found by a court to be a mentally ill person subject to hospitalization by court order, or is an involuntary patient other than one who is a patient only for purposes of observation. As used in this division, “mentally ill person subject to hospitalization by court order” and “patient” have the same meanings as in section 5122.01 of the Revised Code.”
The deputies confiscated one .45 caliber pistol, one .380 caliber pistol, a 12 gauge shotgun, two AR-15 rifles, and a stripped AR-15 lower receiver. My friend was able to see what the deputy/detective wrote on the evidence list regarding the firearm descriptions. The shotgun was listed as a “hunting shotgun,” the pistols were listed by their caliber, and the two ARs were listed as “tactical assault rifles.” What was even more strange is the detective then listed all the accessories on the ARs, including red dot sights, laser sights, foregrips, 30 round magazines, etc. It should also be stated one of those ARs was his fiancée’s, and the deputies claimed it was shared ownership and therefore had to be confiscated. A hunting knife was also confiscated. No magazines or ammunition were confiscated.
In addition to the confiscations, the deputies attempted to question my friend and his fiancée. I didn’t get specific details on the questions asked. They refused to answer any questions without an attorney present. When my friend stated, “This is bullshit,” one of the deputy detectives remarked, “Look man, I’m just doing my job.”
The icing on the police-state-cake was a notice to appear before a judge for “an evaluation of mental competency.” The judge will decide if he has to see a state psych. Keep in mind, too, if during the time between now and the judge’s decision, another search warrant could be executed. If they find any “deadly weapons” in his house, he’ll be charged with a FELONY and arrested. Ohio revised code is extremely vague on the definition of a “deadly weapon,” maybe intentionally so. Like Brandon Raub, there were no criminal charges, no suspicions of criminal activity. Unlike Brandon Raub’s case, however, the state of Ohio won’t allow law enforcement to involuntarily commit a person unless there is an immediate need to do so, such as holding a gun to their head or another person’s head. Ohio law requires a judge to make the decision on having a person evaluated for mental illness. Of course, you’re then evaluated by a state-appointed psych, and that isn’t exactly going to play out in your favor. Had my friend lived in Virginia, he may be sitting in a metal hospital (prison) right now. Or worse.
Steve- this man is an Army combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient, a Christian working for a Christian company, his father is a pastor and a police officer, he has no criminal record aside from a speeding ticket many years ago, and no psychiatric problems, no PTSD, etc. He’s not on any medication. He and his fiancée have three children, and their wedding is in 30 days. Heck, he even quit smoking earlier this year until this assault on his freedom happened. He is an upstanding person with strong values and a good heart. This should not be happening, and yet it is. We know why he was raided, but we don’t know why he was raided, if you know what I mean. There is no indication of anybody filing a complaint against him, and no indication of who asked for the judge’s signature or why.
My friend does have a lawyer (after shelling out $2500…Thank God he and his fiancée have good jobs and live responsibly so they could have money saved up for an emergency. Of course, that money was earmarked for prep items like food, clothing for their kids, etc.) The lawyer will be filing motions tomorrow. I told him to keep on his lawyer and to be extremely aggressive with discovery- find out how far up these orders came from, because I can assure this wasn’t a local operation. He has only lived in the county for five weeks!
When I hung up with my friend at around 21:30, I told him to be safe and that we’d be praying for him.

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  • Do any of you rightwingers understand, who is taking you down? It is no one on the left, the ones you blame for everything from sun spots to dandruff. It is your own kind…..period. The judge that signed off on this bust, is as rightwing as they come and then some. The last thing corporate needs, is armed veterans now. The Coup Degrau is just around the corner sons and daughters….so instead of dividing yourself further, find a way to get along and tear down those corporate walls and free one and all. Nothing is free…….and those corporations aren’t as big and bad as they think they are, when all of the nations is about to give them a real can of whup a$$.

    • Thank you Anonymous! I’ve been trying to talk to right-wingers who hate everything they call “librul” and everything they hate is “librul”, but it’s the damned RIGHT – if there’s any real difference at all within government – is who is disarming and stripping of all possible assets ANY competent they can lay a subpoena or warrant on. Either you know what’s happening and you’re doing your best to prepare and to fight it, slow it down at least, or you don’t and you aren’t. Those political labels have been so adulterated, messed with and mangled they mean nothing any longer. Hang together or hang separately.


    • One Who Knows

      You poor delusional idiot

    • It’s Coup de grace. Just sayin’. And yes, authoritarians suck no matter what side of the aisle they sit on.


      If you assemble a community to locally boycott ONE corporation at the time, the impact will be felt.

    • Where do you see the Judges name, or for that matter the Veteran’s name- anywhere here? How are you saying he’s a right-winger?

  • This guy needs to do what Brandon Raub’s family did – get the Rutherford Institute involved.

  • There’s no video or name of the person being detained. How do we know that this is true?

  • As the guy says, the last thing the corporations need at any time is an armed nation that can defend itself and its precisely the reasons why Japan did not attack the US by flying in and actually landing troops because as Admiral Yamamoto said “There will be a gun behind every blade of grass” and it was Julius Ceasar himself who said “No great nation can be attacked from without until it has been corrupted from within”

    If you dont understand what that means then you are already dead or enslaved. :cry:

  • Somebody should be cataloging these things and putting them out there. Vets should be made to know it’s happening.

  • Sounds to me like a Fusion Center operation. Have counsel file a FOIA request with the nearest Fusion Center.

  • Aren’t these US gov’t's actions straight out of the Communist playbook?

    • Yes, in fact a friend who grew up under communism in Vietnam until he was 9 told me this felt just like communism. It’s exactly the kind of thing that happens under communism.

  • I would just like to know when the Government/Agencies break the law and violate the civil rights of individuals what are the people supposed to due but to arm them selves.

    • As far as they’re concerned, you do what the button on the bottom right of the comment box says: “SUBMIT”

      They don’t give a rat’s ass for the Constitution. Remember that per DHS via the Fusion Centers, Constitutionalists and patriots, as well as veterans of ANY age, are ALL likely “homegrown terrorists”. Along with anyone who expresses a desire to alter government policy, especially by any sort of activism. Disagreeing with the government at ALL is pretty much illegal these days. If the law was anything like it was even just before Dubya there could be an instant charge of unconstitutional search and seizure breaking the Fourth and Second Amendments, falsified warrant and likely several other things. With the judges colluding with the prosecutors who are essentially running the law for their own benefit, anyone trying it would be laughed out of court – and into prison. Face it folks: we now live in a dictatorship. Obama now dictates law and ignores the Congress if he feels like; the cops now ignore Miranda rights, lie as needed for a warrant, kill at will and without accountability… What more do you need? It will take a little more time to spread, but not much more.

      When something like this happens, the entire blasted TOWNSHIP ought to be trying to crowd into that courthouse, there should be a collection taken up and the best lawyer they can find and pay, threaten or blackmail employed! That’s the kind of effort it’s going to take to even slow this down, and without it… well, there’s no chance at all.



      • “Remember that per DHS via the Fusion Centers, Constitutionalists and patriots, as well as veterans of ANY age, are ALL likely “homegrown terrorists”.

        It seems to be that by perpetrating such actions, they are actually attempting to ferment so degree of backlash or revolt and thereby create home-grown freedom fighters, or terrorist, dependent entirely upon one’s perspective…

  • Don’t spend money on an attorney…call the NRA and talk to their attorneys. If your friend is as pure as the driven snow, he most likely can get pro bono legal help. And many times, once some hairbrained judge or politician knows the NRA is involved, they drop their legal persecution almost immediately.

    I find it difficult to believe that this just happened for no reason. If they confused your friend’s name or identity with someone else, that happens. Or if your friend made a controversial or provocative statement on a forum; however, if it just happened out of the blue, call the National Rifle Association’s legal section. You might also give the Second Amendment Foundation a call as well. Have your friend tell them exactly what happened and let them represent him. They have far more experience and will be more effective.

    Also, find out who initiated this mess. Then counter sue for court costs and for initiating a punitive action like this. If it’s just some neighbor who found out he has guns and complained, you want to know that too, and that can be found in the discovery process.

    The NRA and SAF will also publicize it.

  • We need a name. Otherwise it’s hearsay.

  • Both anonymous’s the liberals aren’t going to fight for the Constitution anyway as a matter of fact they support the confiscation of these peoples fire arms almost to the quiche eating “man.” If it gets up their blood to hate the liberals good! The liberals have worked very hard for this and now they deserve whatever they are going to get. And this is coming from a Socialist my friends, a real one.

  • Anonymous maybe that’s because the poor man was going about his normal business and just got home from work. He was ambushed by a bunch of heavily armed thugs. There would have been many of them against one man caught by surprise coming home. What was he meant to do? What a ridiculous comment to make! What will you do in the event of a mass takeover of your country? Nothing?

  • liberalism is a mental disorder shuddup already-both parties are owned by one Soros none of you are better off And, if you’re blind to the fact they want 90% of us gone-you’re a complete idiot to think it won’t be YOU!

  • Actually, it’s closer to 93%.

  • Anonymous

    You idiots need to stop framing this as a political debate. What a bs distraction. There are much greater forces at work but they ain’t at work here. As soon as this was posted on another site, I ran off to Raub’s Facebook page. It might still be available if you care to look. Read and read and read. The guy was sending red flag after red flag. OF COURSE they took him in and in this instance, I applaud them. They were very much justified in doing so.

  • You people are scary and stupid- Welcome to the Farm. You deserve whatever you get.

    • you can go suck a egg and i hope you get it worst of all

  • i would leave a comment but i dont want any unexpected visitors knocking on my door like there going to be knocking on all of you that are writing stuff on the goverment even though its true,facts are that more people are going to keep quite and talk trash on you to look better themselves(know your enemies)

    • No, they’ll just be knocking on your door the next day, or the day after that.

  • Need the victim’s name and location so OathKeepers can get involved and start generating press coverage of this.

  • Anonymous, the paradigm is no longer right-wing vs left wing. It is all the politicos who have sold out to corporatism, statism, and elitism! All of these concepts are being used by the world-wide Communist party in order to take-down the US from within! They can not doit from without, so they have infiltrated the country’s political infrastructure and are using it against the citizens.

    Now, I am not saying that the NWO people are not behind the WW Commnists and Fascists. I am just saying that the corruption from the top down has become so prevalent that even the judiciary at the local level has been corrupted! That Judge, should be disbarred!

    Where is the militia in OH? They should be reacting to this issue. If it is true, then they will be able to find out.

    In the Spirit of AMERICAN Liberty,
    Sic Semper Tyrannus!

    • It’s not True. I have copies of the police report and the CPO filed against him. The Judge made the same decision I would have made in his position. And I have no Love for the Government.

  • Please provide name of person with details so we can follow up on this or take down the post.

    • MCCONNELL, DONALD R and it’s False…. Needs to come down….

  • Ben

    I wonder if this couple are living together. If so, that is not part of Christian values.

  • This Article is BS… Sorry… I have Copies of Police reports from Miami County and from Logan County. He was given a CPO (Civil Protection Order). It was filed in Logan County and served in Miami County. It has nothing to do with his Facebook posts…

    Also according to the police report, the weapons confiscated were 1 LLAMA .45 Semi Auto, 1 Bersa .380 Semi Auto, 1 Charles Davis 12 Gauge Pump action Shotgun, and 1 Savage Arms .22 Semi Auto (note this may be a .223 Semi auto). No where on the report did it say Assault Rifle. Sorry…

    PS If this A$$ wasn’t threatening his Spouse (separated) then he would still have his Firearms…. Just Saying (PS Name is MCCONNELL, DONALD R and only 1 Deputy served this notice.)

  • Veteras, and their family and others… should move to their own independent secluded communities, separate from the state or the federal government as a independent country. And altogether, have the ability to grow their own food and what not.

  • I wonder if the first two commentors know what is left and right, especially what left and right means in a political sense. Take David Duke, he is a true conservative and insofar he would be politcally on the right.
    The same might be said about Kennedy, when you listen to his monolithic speech and Nixon, when you
    read his transcribed tapes and you hear what he had to say about Jews. Left is anything from Comunists
    to flower children and others with revolutionary ideas of changing society. who are mostly Jew-inspired, even though they may not even know it. But those, who are responsible
    for Traub`s arrest or possibly the one described here are nothing less than international crime syndicates
    and their stooges. Their activities should be interpreted purely as criminal unless you want to describe
    Al Capone and Bonnie and Clyde as politicians. Would the named criminals then be left or right politicians? More interesting
    I found the comment of “TexansForOC, Aug 24, 2012, 8:19 am”. Might he be a police officer of some
    kind, who knows something we don`t know? Might there indeed have been a quarrell with the “fiance”
    and might she be behind the entire action? – in which case the whole thing would be an entirely non-
    political event! Or is TexansForOC just some kind of wisecrack, who feels important when he is fantasising?
    The details he provides are specific enough to be checked out!

    • OK, for you disaffected libtards and emotion only conservatives, here is a real quick fool proof 100% from now until eternity grasp of what left and right means in the USA.

      And it’s exactly the OPPOSITE of what left and right means on the rest of the planet. Left wing here is Right wing in Europe. No, it’s not a joke you idiots.

      In America, it’s a diagonal line from top left to bottom right– > like that. It starts at Maximum Government(Fascism/Socialism/Communism) and ends with Minimal Government(Anarchy).

      There are no Right Wing Fascists. It’s impossible. You need a government to be a fascist- and Right Wingers don’t detest and abhor big government. The same goes with confiscating weapons or any private property. That is a Statist construct, not a Minimal Government construct.

      So, why are we the opposite of eveywhere else on the Planet? Because Communists/Socialists used to be called Communists and Socialists, but then people tried to exterminate them. In the early 20th Century, they changed their name to Progressive, and then to Liberal. They co-oped the name of the Right in full ass retreat- and we let them.

      Here is the proper terminology.

      Right “wing”- Liberal. Laissez-faire. Minimal Government.
      Left “wing”- Conservative. Statist. Maximum Government.

      This is the accurate and true meaning of the words before the word smithing cowards on the left co-oped our own damn name. This isn’t some long distance time ago. This was the past century.

      So, when you see some guy in Europe mowing down a bunch of kids because he wants to protect the socialist state- and they call him Right Wing. That’s because he is. In America, where the socialists flipped the terminology, he would be left wing. This is how the cockroaches hide today. Every time you see them for what they are and you go to destroy them, they change their name- like Acorn and Obama.

      Thus endith the fking lesson. If you can grasp this, and read a history book… or better yet, just read a history book, it will make your life alot simpler. And I won’t feel like Helen Keller teaching a dog sign language.

  • Are they securing the attackers or the defenders?

    If only I had a crystal ball. Prepare yourselves for civil war.

  • The black robe society strikes again.

  • Why would anyone own all those weapons?

  • Tyranny and fascism, plain and simple. This is the solution provided by our “leaders” who spread fear and paranoia to control socially engineered populations who no longer have the capacity to see where this is all leading to. Connect the dots SOON and find peaceful ways to circumvent the “controllers” by doing more for yourselves and depending less on conveniences they offer in exchange for freedom. :!: :idea:

  • If inciting conflict was intent with this article, after reading most of the comments, yep it worked!

  • Sorry, this is a very compelling story, but it doesn’t pass the smell test. Of all the detailed info that was provided, it was missing one thing. The guy’s name.. so we can corroborate the story. There is NO news stories about this that I can find. As far as I can tell, this story is 100% BS.

  • ck this out! 2917.21(A)(5) Only in this Communist Run state Of OHIO! can they file charges! on sum1 3 states away! For calling
    sum1 in Troy Ohio A bad name 1 time!!! On Facebook!!! they waste God knows how many tax payers dollars to pay A
    grand jury 2 do their 1 sided investigation! Without even contacting the accused 2 get their side of the story! They call
    this telecommunication harassment! and! they charged A innocent!!! severly disabled person with this just because the phone/internet is
    under his name!! I guess if Sum1 borrowed my car and Killed sum1 I would be rotting in prison just because the Car was In MY Name? even tho I was not even in the car!!!?? And How many ppl allow others to get utilities in their name
    just to help them out? Its crazy that they can be charged for what others do and SAY!! I guess the Officer who wasted his time even accepting such A bogus lame complaint also is against the Constitutions FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!
    There is NO! Evidence what so ever of ANY kind of physical threat or bodily harm! and it was NOT something that was repeatedly said! it was just 1 time!! 1 Name!! Guess people are not allowed to be humans and have emotions In Troy Ohio!!! Oh and the WONDERFUL Person who made the call to file the complaint Has A record of Drugs, A DUI and
    several charges of THEFT! as well as A Battery! yeah W2G Cops! keep on catering 2 these types of people. it sure makes Ohio such A appealing State to want to live in! NOT!! :???: :mad:

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