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OH SNAP! Pope Says NO Moral Absolutes! "Everyone has his own idea of good and evil" - draws rebuke from Southern Baptists!

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Washington Post: Pope Francis cranked up his charm offensive on the world outside the Vatican on Tuesday, saying in the second widely shared media interview in two weeks that each person “must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them” and calling efforts to convert people to Christianity “solemn nonsense.”

Asked if there is a single vision of good, and who decides, Francis says:
“Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is good . . . Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.”

A top official with the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, took the unprecedented step of rebuking Francis, writing that the pope’s interview was “a theological wreck” and that Francis was dabbling dangerously in relativism.

“What these interviews seem continually to do is what evangelical theologian Carl Henry warned Protestants of in the 20th century, of severing the love of God from the holiness of God,” wrote the Rev. Russell Moore, a dean of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and head of the convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. “We must speak with tenderness and gentleness, but with an authoritative word from God.”

Some conservative Catholics were also taken aback by the interview.

More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pope-francis-stirs-debate-yet-again-with-interview-with-an-atheist-italian-journalist/2013/10/01/9e7a6790-2acb-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_print.html

Hear comments directed to the Pope from PPSIMMONS founder Carl Gallups who serves on the BOARD OF REGENTS with the University of Mobile at Mobile AL and has a Master of Divinity – New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary in the below video:


Source: http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/10/oh-snap-pope-says-no-moral-absolutes.html



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    • The Marian Catechist

      Oh, give me a break!

      The Pope is NOT saying that they are no moral absolutes. There are. Good is good. Evil is evil. Period.

      The Pope is just pointing out that EVEN THOUGH many people are unaware of good and evil as it truly is, EVERYONE nonetheless possesses a certain understanding of right and wrong. EVERY human being, regardless of who he is, is bound to SEEK THE GOOD as he presently understands it. This does not, however, mean that the person is excused from discerning what the actual, objective good truly is in the eyes of God.

      In other words, everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. Even though you may be incorrect in your opinion of what is good, you must seek the good with an upright heart. This properly understood, you must also LEARN what good actually is, measured against the standards of God and the teachings of His Church. Your personal opinion of what is good must concede to the reality of what goodness actually is.

      • Болеслава

        The Vatican was threatened with cessation of all funds if Pope Benedict (who is still Pope btw) did not resign. Then they installed this man. One of only two people mentioned in the Bible who will be thrown into hell. The other is the antichrist.

        quote from article quoting the “pope”; “calling efforts to convert people to Christianity ‘solemn nonsense.’”

        Explain that one away.

        Further

        The “pope” IS saying there are no moral absolutes . You simply choose to ignore the fact. He does NOT say as you interject “There are [moral absolutes]. Good is good. Evil is evil. Period.” He never says that anywhere. he says the exact opposite. You say it, not him, without even ascribing it to him directly, which you can’t do. You simply infer it and hence have made yourself a part of the deadly (to souls) deception.

        Give US a break :!:

        Faith in God is a good thing. Blind trust in the instit of the catholic church is nothing less than a surrender of faith in God. The sin God hates most and which he calls “human respect” in place of God. This is the major lesson the saints teach us. It is what made them saints :idea:

        • Болеслава

          Pope Leo XIII prophecy for these times given on 18th May1890.

          “Her most crafty enemies have engulfed the church, the spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, with sorrows, they have drenched her with wormwood; on all her desireable things they have laid their wicked hands. **where the See of blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth have been set up for the light of the gentiles, there they have placed the throne of the abomination of their wickedness, so that the pastor having been struck, they may also be able to scatter the flock.**”

        • Болеслава

          Earlier on October 13 1884 the same pope had a vision wherein he overheard the following conversation.

          The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord: “I can destroy your Church.”
          The gentle voice of Our Lord: “You can? Then go ahead and do so.”
          Satan: “To do so, I need more time and more power.”
          Our Lord: “How much time? How much power?
          Satan: “75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.”
          Our Lord: “You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will.”the Book of Truth it was told to John and Daniel would be sealed up till the end times.

          The Book of Truth which was told both to Daniel and St John the Evangelist was to be sealed till the end times. That means at some time it must be opened; we are in the end times now.
          these words directly from Our Lords own mouth are being given today through Maria Divine Mercy: thewarningsecondcoming.com

      • simboliza

        I will give you a break how bout a KitKat bar… The Pope is evil and God knows it and people that stay in the catholic church deserve him as you will see in the near future

    • wizard

      The cat o lick church is desperate for parishioners. Recent financial settlements for pedophile priests transgressions has left the collection plate some what lite. There was also the confiscation of several million dollars in cash entering Rome by unconventional means. Papa is willing to bend the rules and allow any one into the faith. You can even get time off purgatory by twittering. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

    • Apollo is the A/C

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Inquisition

      “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.”

      “The Roman Catholic Church was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stone and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations, even the unclean things of her fornication”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome

      “Here is the mind that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the Roman Catholic Church sits:”

      “‘Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

      ——————————————————
      Just prior to his death (August 20, 1914), Pope Pius X had another vision:

      “Do not tell anyone this while I am alive. I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite he will die a cruel death.”

      And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the Roman Catholic Churchh, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire.” :razz: :razz: :razz:

      -

    • mstamper

      “Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is good . . . Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.” This is the theological equivalent of “if it feels good, do it”. Needless to say, Nazis, Fascists, Communists, dictators, and criminals of every stripe have their own visions of good and evil. These visions have led them to commit the most heinous crimes. The last thing humanity needs are more self-serving definitions of good and evil. I thought the Church was supposed to supply moral guidance. That requires moral certainty, a quality evidently in short supply now.

      • simboliza

        You have to encourage people ,LOL

    • simboliza

      You can tell he’s up in the night about good and evil with what HE has said… And then he tries to put one over on you by telling you Satan’s world could be a better place …HE need to go back and study scripture before he tries to MISS LEAD the true believer’s

    • W. Willow

      From Rome’s Daily, La Republica: “Your Holiness, you wrote that in your letter to me. The conscience is autonomous, you said, and everyone must obey his conscience. I think that’s one of the most courageous steps taken by a Pope.”

      Pope Francis: “And I repeat it here. Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.” (end quote)

      If this isn’t a blank check for conscience, I don’t know what else is. By this measure, Hitler could claim that he was acting according to his conscience and no one should condemn him. Mass killers are often self-righteous about their bloody work. In essence, he’s absolving the PTB.

      This is a passive- aggressive maneuver in the spiritual realm — the pass to call evil good and good evil. :cry:

    • underhispinions

      What ever happend to the bible?The part where it say only one mediator between God and man?We are not to even worship angels.

    • Jay

      The post Vatican II church is heretical, it nullifies laws and traditions of the Catholic Church that have been with the Church since the beginning . The 33 thousand Protestant sects and denominations that follow the teachings of the defrocked monk Martin Luther are also heretical, the proof being none of the 33000 denominations agree on doctrine. The eastern Churches doctrine have included many false teachings that have been heretical for centuries. Christianity has been successfully brought down. I think it is a time for Christians to go back to the earliest time that Christianity still worked and start from there. Since by it’s own doctrine there is no other road to salvation but through Christ.

    • Remnant Clergy

      Francis is not the pope but the false prophet of the bible. The sleepy Catholics defend his heresies about morals being totally relative.

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