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THE FOUNDATIONS of Pretribulation Teaching Collapse!

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Pastor Carl Gallups shows how the very foundation of the pretibulation rapture teaching concerning Revelation 4:1 is an absolute travesty of contextual, exegetical biblical interpretation. This short, and very simple to understand video will blow you away. Enjoy!


Source: http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-foundations-of-pretribulation.html



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    • Crazy times

      The collapse of PTR…….. in 6 mins read all about it…..Bahwaaaah

      He doesn’t know Why PTR choose Johns version over Paul ?….and he calls himself a teacher… Bahwaaah.

      many are falling away because of this new teaching ???…Bahwaaaah.

      PTR crumbles at 4:1 ??? Bahwaaah

      So these 2 lampstands are the church ????…Bahwaaaah

      rapture at Rev 11 ??? Bahwaaaah …

      will blow you away. Enjoy! ….your killing me really… stoppp itt !!..

      There’s more holes in this than Swiss cheese… :shock:

      keep looking for the MISSING BRIDE after rev 4:1 as those TWO Lampstands… are not the BRIDE.

      check out the Lampstand/s
      in the Old Testament a HUGE clue is given as to who THESE 2 Lampstand/s are…see if you can spot it !! , (the usual disclaimer applies to)… god i am 321 , as he is as Blind as the smiley dude in the video :lol:

      Exodus 26 New King James Version verse 35
      1 Kings 7:49 New American Standard Version (1995)
      Zechariah 4 New International Version

      These Lampstands in the Old Testament.. Does that mean the Church was in the Old testament ?… as well !!!

      Everyone is welcome to their POV even PPSIMMONS…. my comments are about the material

      • am123

        The 2 olive trees are indeed members of the Church.

        “Does that mean the Church was in the Old testament ?… as well !!!”

        Indeed crazy. Here you go:

        “Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.”
        — Daniel 7:22

        “And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.”
        — Daniel 7:27

        But you don’t believe the saints spoken of here by Daniel are the Church, do you? So be it, let it happen as you believe!

        • LampStand-of-Flames

          All True Believer’s in our Messiah are the True Church.
          It’s Not any physical place,church building,denomination,nor etc.
          The kingdom of God is in you. Luke 17
          Jesus traveled and visited church temples that are inside of people.
          Gods Holy breath that is in all humans!
          The Holy Spirit catches that internal-Holy-Breath from God on Holy Fire :!:
          This is the Chosen Bride of Christ.

        • Crazy times

          The 2 olive trees are indeed members of the Church….. :twisted: …Twisted.

          I can see where your leading.. (apart from AGAIN CHANGING the direction of the conversation about Lampstands to Saints ) , with another of your 3 card tricks ?, that is… Israel is the church innuendo ….NOT GOING there Buddy as I DON”T believe it ….so don’t post that clap trap to me…….YOU SOW enough CONfusion…. :arrow: :idea:

          Indeed Here YOU GO AGAIN twisting that too… “they’re ALREADY members !!!??”

    • Anonymous

      Jesus will snatch His Bride from the the Earth before the tribulation. Why would anyone put their Bride through such turmoil and suffering of the tribulation, certainly I don’t believe Jesus would…..think about it.

      • am123

        It doesn’t matter what you think, it matters what the Word says:

        /alternative/2013/02/rapture-alert-millions-of-christians-have-been-deceived-2561260.html

      • Crazy times

        You say…….. “they’re ALREADY members !!!??”of the Church …(Old testament)

        “I WILL” …..New American Standard Bible…Matthew 16:18

        “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock…. “I WILL”… build My church…clearly FUTURE …Imho…..YOU can interpretate it whichever way you want to, as YOU have your Own agenda, thinking your writings are supplements to Scripture…… but let the reader understand “as it is written”.

        To be Israel you had to be Jewish,NO GENTILES, normal Olive tree. The Church inception accepted by the mainstream churches began on Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4) with the disciples and the Jews that believed their message and the arrival of the Holy Spirit the comforter. AFTER THAT EVENT They did not join Israel ( become part of the temple), they were called OUT FROM THAT……with the Gentiles following later on …a new creation…JEW and GENTILE together.

        “It doesn’t matter what you think, it matters what the Word says”

        Well then give…. a link to the “Word of GOD” THE BIBLE…. and NOT TO your alternative views which are wise by your own estimates. :lol:

    • LampStand-of-Flames

      There is No Rapture at all!
      No rapture is for the Lost believing in doctrines of men,instead of in the doctrines of God!
      Hollywood is governed by satan. You think they would make a movie about a rapture if it
      was the truth?
      NOT!

      Our Messiah seals his chosen in Revelation.
      In Zephaniah He hides a few Meek.
      No reason for our Lord Jesus/Yeshua to SEAL nor HIDE anyone…
      if you were raptured away.
      This is basically common sense if one is Not blind and actually reads/studies the entire KJV Bible
      and Apocrypha books.

      Most will be tested by DEATH to see if they really love the Lord.
      KJV Holy Bible states: but before all these things you shall be delivered into their Courts,
      and killed,and hated by ALL nations for my names sake. :arrow: :idea:

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