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release the globen crackens!
yes!!! YOU i like! i cannot disagree with a single comment you have posted! NOTHING makes me happier than finding others, who have,, own their own, discovered what i have, and o mother glory,. what a fun game we play!
Anyone who believes in flat earth has never flown in a airplane and seen the ‘curvature’ of the Earth with their own eyes. Kids launch cameras in balloons and let them parachute back down, retrieve them and they All show the curvature of the Earth.
I have flown many times and never seen a curvature other than the round window that even makes a rainbow into the same circle as the round window. The horizon is always at eye level. No curvature at all.
You are NWO shill and part of your brief is to aid in the dumbing down of the citizens of the world so that they are as “educated” as Medieval serfs. This will then enable the NWO to dupe them, while performing all manner of heinous crimes against humanity!
And you Theremustbeanotherway are a liar and can be sued for liable and slander in a court of law. You just left permanent evidence.
Exactly What any well paid SHILL would say ^^^^^^^^
Shut up you pussy!
Enough with this crap, everyone knows that the Earth is really hollow duhhh
The people are already dumbed down to the point of believing that we live on a spinning ball when it can easily be proved that we do not.
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Funny the earth has been known to humans as flat until the late 1800s. Only then did it go round so the agenda started. Even Columbus and them, all thought they would fall off the edge; but they didn’t know the edges are when we know as Antartica. So its ice.
Many old maps are flat, with the north pole as its center. But its a fact the windows curature makes it seem round. Why then when you fly from South Africa to Sydney, why do you have to fly all the way up to Hong Kong and then back down? When you look at the round map, its shorter to fly between the 2 points, then even 1 way to Hong Kong? So why can’t they fly directly to each other; when its shorter?
Its common core and it would start to unravel the life web of lies everyone thinks is reality; when lifes one big lie… Humans were not suppose to have gotten power and electronics, and is the downfall of the lie. Humans are nothing but one gian Ant colony, and can’t handle the truth and accept it, so they have to rely upon making it unrealiztic and unfathomable because their brains and life would be meaningless. Imagine learning your entire life was one big lie. And you think finding out your parents aren’t your real parents is upsetting and emotional… Imagine the entire human race…
You’re a fucking retard. Please do not reproduce.
Maybe it’s a dome.
Correct. Remember when snow globes were a thing? That is what we live in and those who don’t believe it are brainwashed. You see, the masses were taught to discredit anyone who does not 100% comply with the NWO lie agenda. They were taught to use criticisium, call them crazy, lunatics, and conspiracy theories. Yet its 100% funny that the conspiriacy theoriest have been 100% correct; leaving mindless sheep to follow the program.
Why do you think you were “trained” like a dog to only cross the street at a crosswalk? If you don’t, what happens? Mr Policeman comes fine and arrests you for not going along with their program. Yet you harmed no one, and you looked both ways before you crossed. You see, you have to be that trained robot zombie to only cross the street at the crosswalks, or Mr Policeman is there to harass and arrest you to start complying with their programming. Understand how something small like crossing a street proves and shows you how you all are being trained like a dog to follow blindly? Its not a safety thing, if their is no cars coming, but you are a out of control free willed person, who they are not controlling, and following along with their programming. Then they throw you in jail when you get out, you comply 100% to their brainwashing; yet few of us real heros don’t, and are the freedom fighters of our minds.
The earth is Flat. The edges are cover with Ice all around, and they call it Antartica. And yes, their is a hollow earth opening at the heart of Antartica, that is warm. If you look, you can see some of the airplane footage of the ice, and then no snow, with warm water of Admiral Byrds flight. But the US Gov did not hide (release) anymore of the footage, but you can go along for the ride from start until they filmed the snowless warm lake, and then it cuts to them landing after their return. Seek and you shall find…
dolphinz, mongoose, eagererin, spiritfilled, anon, jango,
keep speaking the truth.
not many are willing to stand up against the onslaught of globe earthers.
they are an egoistic bunch, generally speaking, doing whatever childish things that will let them keep their ball.
sad really.
peace!
You have the logic of a child…. listen to yourself… you just said it’s been proven, yet the ONLY proof you provided in your whole boring worthless senseless piece of shit paragraph is that of the seen warm water of Admiral Byrds flight. So what that there were patches of melted land? You think every piece of Antarctica is covered? That footage showed a small patch of land. Whoopty fucking dooo!! Oh there’s no ice in some small part of the land!!!! MUST be an entrance !!! herp derp. You fucknig lunatic, no one is programmed to call you that, it’s just when people sense a retard and they care for the progression of humanity, they call out such imbeciles. Now maybe you claim the rest of the footage is deleted…. but then that can only be your imagination what’s on the rest of that footage, if there is such thing. Just keep in mind that just because some video on YouTube claims there is hidden footage doesn’t mean there is. I can claim whatever the fuck I want too and put it in my video. See the logic? Show me actual evidence then go on rambling about having actual evidence.
Mr Bobby,,Don’t waste time on these flat earther blubbering idiots. I have put links to the proof that the earth is round many times. The Thinning Veil Report and Richard the pedo just like to stir the pot and smoke way too much of it at the same time….Crack heads come out of your digital basement.
How is this even still a thing??
The chance to feel like a triumphant warrior against
the NWO!!!!!!!
Choose a topic of total idiocy, that everyone knows
makes no difference whatsoever in everyday life.
With trumpets blaring, a full attack on the
NWO Conspiracy. BIG BIG Deal!!!
In the Bible, there is often comment made about
Bearing Fruit.
This topic can never bear fruit.
It can never change tomorrow,
It can never change Yesterday, or Today either.
Fruitless! Meaningless! NADA NADA NIXXX
Why don’t you Rebels against the NWO use
your energy for something useful,
Like, How many Angels can dance on the head
of a pin?????
RR
distant cousin,
i see your point.
but.
how can any huge conspiracy exposure change our day to day lives?
yes, we still have to go out and survive, eat, clothe and shelter ourselves every day, regardless of what shape our world is.
here is the reason it is important.
all governments can be shown to be complicit in this global lie. all governments can be shown to have stolen money from their people.
all governments can be shown to be complicit in HIDING OUR CREATOR.
if you cannot see past day to day drudgery to the real implications of tptb hiding our true world and histories, i fear there is not much hope for you. you know, the ones trying to expose the non-spinning ball earth are the same ones, in most cases, that have been feverishly working to expose all lies. the jewish control, 911, vaccine and medical death industry, media lies, hoaxes, false flags…..
we are the same ones.
but you draw the line at exposing the flat earth? why? can we not hold more than one thought in our minds at the same time? all or nothing?
those who fail to see the all-encompassing derivatives of proving a flat earth make me sad.
it matters. a lot.
it can’t change yesterday or today, you are right, but it can change tomorrow for us all.
peace.
Thinning Veil, Distant Cousin is right in all he said. Why does this matter?
There are lots of reasons it matters. First off we can’t believe what we are
seeing here with you flat Earth folks. No one is lying to you at all.
You however, are lying to yourselves in a major way. We feel so
sorry for you, but even worse, we see you as the next generation of
humanity, and that is what scares us to death. Like someone else said
a while back in this same subject matter, (you are trying to re-invent the
wheel).. If you think it is necessary to re-invent the wheel, go right ahead!
What a waste of time and man(woman) power though. As was pointed
out before, everyone thought the world was flat through most of human
history! It came as a shock to everyone that it was in fact a sphere.
Now this was NOT proven without a lot of pain and suffering. No one
wanted it to be a globe. It went against everything mankind thought they
knew at the time. It was only with overwhelming evidence, that they
accepted (with great reluctance) that it was a sphere. No one was
trying to trick anyone when it was proven, most everyone had to be
drug into the situational “new” reality kicking and screaming, okay?
The Catholic Church killed people for heresy over saying it was a globe.
So no one wanted it to be a globe at all. It was just through brave
explorers that circumnavigated the globe, that they found out that
they were NOT living on a flat disc. No one was conspiring to fool
you or anyone else.. It was just when they took off and headed west
around the planet and eventually got back to their own home ports,
did they realize it was a sphere. And NO ONE wanted it to be so
at the time..
I know you must not have been around during the early space
program, but things surely did not happen easily on that exploration
either. Back then men were not perfect, but they were certainly miles
ahead of where we have “slipped to” today.. Most men were honest
and went to Church every Sunday and tried their best to do an honest
job at what they did. There was no talk of secret societies, and
NWO crap was the furthest thing from anyone’s minds..
The Soviets, got the jump on the space program, and it was NASA
playing “catch up” during the early years. I remember as a kid back
on our farm, my parents pulled us kids outside one night to watch
Sputnik fly over. They announced on the evening news what time we
should go out and look, and sure nuff, here it came whizzing over
our farm out in space. It was not a NASA trick, it was the Russians!
Now we know one thing for sure.. to counteract the earth’s gravity,
you have to get your spacecraft to go 17,500 mph to achieve orbital
velocity. That is what achieves weightlessness and keeps a
satellite in orbit. Any less than that it would fall back to earth.
Any faster, it will fly off into space, as then it is going at what
is called escape velocity.. It has to be 17,500 mph to stay in orbit.
(A black mathematical American female actually came up with all
of the math for orbital velocities)! Now in order for something
to orbit, you have to have a sphere, or at least somewhat close
to a sphere, in order for a true stable orbit to be achieved. Any
other shape will have distortions in it’s gravitational field to keep
a stable orbit going. KNOWING this, we had to be watching
the Sputnik orbiting a GLOBE! Since a stable orbit cannot work
with distorted shapes, or discs, how would you explain what we
were watching? Was that thing sailing over the farm some kind
of Russian Trick? It had to be what it was, period.
Then NASA finally got into the game after many embarrassing
disasters. Now if NASA was just lying to us, as you say,
wouldn’t they cover up the disasters that happened before
we finally got out first satellite (TELLSTAR) into space?
It was a terribly embarrassing time for our country. We were
quite worried and upset that the Russians beat us into space,
and were afraid of the consequences. NASA finally got their
ducks in a row and finally got that Satellite up into an orbit
that worked for a short while. It eventually fell out of orbit
and crashed back to earth, BUT they finally did it and we all
cheered. So, NASA did their best, and did what they set out
to do. They sent something into orbit. Remember, you
cannot orbit something that is like a flat earth at all, since
the gravity of such an object could not sustain an orbit.
The black gal that came up with the math, did her math
based on orbiting a sphere, not a disc.. And all of the early
NASA formula’s were her formula’s all of the way through
our early manned space missions. So my point here is
that you guys are all wrong. You cannot orbit a disc worth
a crap, for very long.. I watch the Sputnik go over with the
whole family, just as we have watched the ISS go over
many times in the past several years. Your Disc would be
impossible to have a stable orbit. So if we didn’t watch
Sputnik and the ISS, what is it that we are seeing ORBIT?
And what are meteors to y’all? Some of the painted on stars
on the dome have come loose and occasionally fall? Okay then.
No brain matter here to see folks move along..
Hello anon.
Its Me again.
Thank You, Respect.
Also respect for Thining Veil.
It was not an outlandish reaction to my comments,
but well balanced.
But Anon, you are Correct. totally.
Early sixties, Cold War. Russia had a huge number
of the primitive surveillance satellites in orbit.
Many crossed over Seattle to control Boeing and
the shipyards.
We were at Sun Lakes State Park, my cousins and
I, laying on our backs, watching ‘em go over—
You know how bored a 7 year old gets- -
There were so many, we never got bored. haha.
An amazing show.
I’ve been in a Grumann Goose over the Bering Sea.
Flat glass windows (from the 1930′s) no bubble
glass like one fool mentions. Do I need to say more?
Was on the top of Ballyhoo at Dutch Harbor as well,
to the North, the Bering Sea, and the Pacific to the
south. Do I need to say more.
Taken the Polar Routes to Europe. Seen the Great
Slave Lake from the air, (as well as land).
Seen Greenland as well. (It was amazing to see)
Fallen in love on the commons of Devon,
(but that is another story which I will not expand on)
I know flat Earthers, you can do it all,
See it all, ON YOUR LAPTOP!
What a damnable pity.
Buy a backpack
Study instead of expound.
Living is Analog not Digital
Get in a boat and go see your silly Ice Wall!!
Don’t just tell me about it,
Go Look at IT!!!!
Almost every day, somewhere— an Islamist
screams and pulls the rip-chord on his
suicide vest.
He knows his Virgins are waiting for him
IN PARADISE.
I KNOW! Your Ice Wall is waiting for YOU!!!
Don’t tell me about it,
Go take a Picture of it, NO PHOTOSHOP OK.
There is no honor in hollow words.
JUST DO IT!!! I DARE YOU!!!
RR
anon,
all you have done in your lengthy shpiel is to regurgitate the lies told to you by your guv and nasa.
this proves nothing.
‘but rockefeller says he would never cheat the people!’
WISE UP PLEASE.
do some independent investigation, you know the stuff globe earth believers claim THEY DO, when in reality, they only know how to be parrots.
most, if not all, flat earth believers were pure skeptics BEFORE they started learning. you are a skeptic, cynic really, BEFORE investigation.
that makes you a fool.
STANDING ROUND OF APPLAUSE. Couldn’t have said it any clearer myself.
Earth is unequivocally flat, proven by many scientific tests; primarily long range laser showing no curvature. Immense ice walls surround the edge…so why it’s “off limits” and highly guarded. Get a plane to fly over, as I’m unsure of, if any air space restrictions. Its so extremely cold and vast, how can they maintain 24/7 vigilance over such a huge expanse. Admiral Byrd stated after one of his explorations in ’57 there’s a massive expanse of habitable, unmapped land, the size of USA with lush foliage, wildlife, and ideal weather they’re hiding. Never explored, he said. This makes sense why most explorations are banned and many people have “disappeared”. Antartica is hardly desirable real estate. They’re hiding something, obviously. It’s likely NWO “getaway destination” when SHTF, majority of earth and inhabitants are destroyed.
eagererin,
if i had the resources i would go tomorrow!
the crazy thing is, all nasa has to do is show us a 24 hour live feed of a spinning ball earth. even for educational purposes. teach the kids about weather patterns and continents etc. i watched a vid where someone made the excellent point that they could televise the live feed and put ads on to help pay for their expenses and give the taxpayers a break.
we want to see a live feed, complete with stars, satellites and the million pieces of space junk they say are there. we must demand proof. if they can go to mars and the moon, they can show us our own damn ‘planet’ (the word plane with a t on the end)
has anyone noticed that the iss feeds never show any of the millions of things floating around up there?
can anyone explain why, if the continents are basically floating (continental drift) all the land on our 1000 mile an hour spinning ball IS NOT LOCATED AROUND THE EQUATOR?
can anyone explain the bolivian flats?
the utah salt flats?
why pilots don’t have to constantly lower the nose of their planes so as not to fly into space?
these and so many more questions. so many.
they can’t show us a live, continuous feed because the earth is not a spinning ball. it’s all a lie, paid for by we the people. the earth is flat.
get mad, world. jeez.
thinning Mind, Pilots are constantly adjusting the yoke of their planes
for vertical adjustments. I take it you have never flown a plane before.
The aircraft must constantly be watched to maintain it’s cruising altitude.
Flying is a little more intense than driving a car. You have to watch
your altimeter and adjust constantly for variations in altitude. Just
as you have to constantly steer you car with adjustments left and right,
to go down a roadway, you have to do left and right on a plane, but
also are constantly adjusting for up and down as well. Since the plane is
traveling on a bed of air, it does not matter, what the terrain below is.
If it’s flat you don’t have to nose down to keep from gaining altitude.
The earth is out of the equation once you are airborne. It is just you
and the wind beneath your wings at that point. I can’t believe you
even thought that one up dude!
You took along time to say nothing.
The thinning veil is correct. If the earth and it’s atmosphere were spherical an airplane maintaining a straight trajectory would fly out into space.
The plane would essentially have to be constantly making downward adjustments in order to compensate for this however pilots and autopilots have to do no such thing while traversing the earth.
I take it you have never flown a plane before anonymous.
I love how we get fake pilots and fake tanker navigational officers on these flat earth threads.
This is the most pa trolled topic on the net because when the truth is realized by enough people it will be the end of the corrupt corporate system of fraud and lies that has run amuck across the earth.
I have flown planes more than you have changed your socks
dummy. Why do you think I said what I said?
Ever hear of an “operational ceiling” on an aircraft?
Of course not, because you are a stupid little whiny kid,
with snot running down your nose, who attacks real people
who have flown planes and have been ship navigators.
You who know NOTHING, deserves to learn nothing.
Go on with your dumbed down life little one, and
continue to be the paranoid failure that you are.
So since you are not worthy, of my time to teach you
something that is real, look it up for yourself on the
operational ceiling of aircraft, and how it works, how it
is maintained. It is impossible for an airplane to fly into space,
Mr. Know Nothing..
An example of the success of
the destruction of the
America School system.
Exceptionally Destroyed.
Anonymous: “I have flown planes more than you have changed your socks
dummy.”
My reply: Since that statement is clearly not true, your credibility has now gone from 0 to negative 1,000,000.
Anonymous: “Why do you think I said what I said?”
My reply: Because you are a lying shill.
Anonymous: “It is impossible for an airplane to fly into space”
My reply: Of course it is, for two reasons, the first one being that there is no outer space and the second one being that the plane engines would fail when the plane goes higher than it was designed to fly, your operational ceiling.
All the more reason that you would want to keep that nose pointed down if the earth were a globe.
Insulting people is always a good way to prove your superior intellect and demonstrate to others that your position is the correct one. Oh wait, never mind that was only true in grade school.
I see that you are attempting to appeal to the lowest common denominator in your reply. I guess you think that some people will not look into the subject because they are afraid that you will call them names.
I did not insult you. I was just reminding you that you are not a real pilot, even if you do play one on the internet.
If the earth were a globe aprox. 25,000 miles in circumference, a plane traveling at 300 mph in a straight forward east west trajectory at the equator would be gaining altitude at a rate of 8” x 300m x 300m = 6000 ft. an hour = 1.14 miles an hour = 100 ft. a minute = 1.67 ft. per second.
This rate would increase exponentially the further north or south you get away from the equator due to the smaller circumference of the globe earth near the poles when traveling in a strictly east to west direction.
Remember before you go, you have to apply for entering Antartica. Its not like you can just hire a airplane or ship and go on your own. It is off limits, like area 51, so why do you think that is the only mass on earth where you have to ask for permission to enter.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
ok now, if you dint see the sarcasm in my first post , which is above, if, you can believe the world is flat, you will fall for anything.
eagererin put the crack pipe down and walk away
Eagerin is correct and if he were smoking crack he would not have been able to take the time to come to these realizations.
You on the otherhand I am not so sure about. Why would smoking crack even come into your mind?
Most people who don’t smoke crack don’t even give it a thought.
How do you know it is smoked from a pipe? From experience?
just a note.
bin has in their ‘top alternative’ posts a google story with 400 views, yet this post is conspicuously absent.
if bin is owned by tptb, as i think it is, this is telling, no?
why is this not listed in top alt?
maybe the heading should be ‘top alternative posts that bin has APPROVED.
Have my doubt Jarle Andøy is pleased to be mentioned in an article about “flat earth”.
If you still don’t believe the earth is flat and stationary like people believed it was for thousands of years before science invented this spinning ball fiction, then see if you can solve this. Comparing a flat stationary earth to a spinning ball produces two different results. You simply cannot produce the same results on both with regards to the laws of motion. On a stationary earth, you can move in any direction with the same results. On a spinning globe you cannot because you have 3 different measurements based on the west to east rotation at 1000 mph. So if you go east you get one reading, west you get another, and north you get a third. And all 3 are different. Not so on a stationary earth. So which earth do we live on??? Do the experiment on my website and see what you get. Unless you really want to believe that monkeys jump from tree to tree at 1000 mph. ItsHisStory.com/globe
Jango cannot fathom that the air going around the earth spins right along with
the earth under it. He thinks that if you jump into the air a 1000 mph wind is gonna
knock you on your butt for some reason.. He just can’t get it through his head
that the air moves WITH the planet as it spins. But he bases everything in all of
his arguments on that one principle for some reason. And if he ever learned that
the air moves around at the same speed, it ruins all of his theories and money
making opportunities, spreading his false prophet stuff. But Jesus warned us that
many would come in his name to spread lies to the masses.
I really do think he means well in his heart though.. He is just wrong. Got creates
beautiful spherical worlds all throughout his grand universe. He is a 3 dimensional
(If not more) God of all. He doesn’t make flat disc worlds he makes them in grand
3D designs. We are not sitting in a dome covered flat disc earth on his desk, but
we live in such a grand universe that we cannot comprehend it in all of it’s GOD
created glory. My God, must be much grander than yours, that makes little flat
disc worlds with stars painted on a dome, with a little teeny sun that flies around
like a flashlight in the sky, and a little moon painted on the ceiling. Nope, my GOD
created glorious wonders that man can’t see the end of with his telescopes, and
cannot even begin to fathom all of it’s magnificence.. Quite a different God indeed.
When we watched the supernova occur a couple of weeks ago, How did your
God do that on the dome? Shine a flashlight on it? And how does he make
quasars spin around on the dome like that at several revolutions a per minute?
And when we watched the comet go by back in the late 90′s how did he do
that? He must have taken a giant torch, and slowly pulled it across the dome,
to produce that light show? Hmmm.. My God has a self propelling universe
that once created, works all by itself.. He doesn’t have to hold the torch, to
make the comet appear to go past the earth.. It does it all on it’s own, since
there is no dome to have to paint stuff on, or move thing around on.
Your God must really stay busy though, moving quasars, Running comets,
and asteroids around on the dome non-stop. My God, all that stuff works
out in space all by itself, in his grand universe. Praise God for his creation and
all of the wonders thereof.
And Jango, when he said he would roll up the stars like a scroll, he can do
whatever he wants, even that with big round stars and planets.. He made it
all, so if he wants to roll the stars up, like a scroll he will, when he gets ready.
The stars don’t all have to be flat and painted on a dome, in order to do that.
He is God, so he can roll them up, no matter what size or shape they are.
Being on his grand sphere, makes him so much more magnificent than being
in a domed jar on a flat disc.. Give him more credit than that please. He is
so much more than you give him credit for.
Anonymous, I have to defend my brother Jango, I am going to ask you one simple question. Is Jesus Christ Yashua your Lord and savior. Because if you tell me that he is, then you will know that the Holy Bible is the infallible word of God. And if you agree, than you need to go back to Genesis and look at Gods creation of the Earth. And also know that there is not one scripture in the bible that mentions that we live on a planet or that he created planets. These are nothing more than wandering stars. But there are over 200 scriptures that prove we live in a enclosed non moveable creation. So what ever you have seen or witnessed in the night sky is something within the firmament. There could be constant battles between Gods Angels and satan’s angles that you are seeing. These are not super novas as fake Nasa has us to believe. If you are a Christian why would you believe a Jesuit priest that was a sun worshiper, Copernicas who hated the word of God and wanted to make the sun the center of the universe and nasa who is definitely lying to us and deceiving us about the world we live in, over the infallible word of God. You need to ask yourself ” why do you believe we live a spinning blue marble” Find the proof, in God’s word. By the way if you believe in science you are all ready deceived. Im not talking about electricity, I’m talking about the Sudo Science that Satan has given man to disprove that there is a creator. If you don’t agree with the big bang or evolution then why would you not believe in flat earth. Satan knows if everyone found out that we live on a non movable geocentric enclosed creation, it would destroy the big bang and evolution. Science is the one world religion that the bible speaks of in the great tribulation. Because no mater what religion or not people still believe in the satanic heliocentric ball earth matrix. There is a true matrix and you need to release yourself. The wonderful thing about Gods enclosed creation is that God and Jesus Christ Yashua resides above the firmament and we matter. I don’t care what others may think of my post.you can call me stupid crazy whatever, that does not bother me. I rather stand for God and Jesus Christ Yashua and be judge by the world then stand for the world and the world beliefs and be judged by God. Until the whole world knows.
Spiritfilledbloodboughtbornagain and Mongoose,
Yes, I am a Christian, and both of your interpretations of the Bible
are surely flawed. I live right close to NASA, and I know people that
work there. They are not the lying deceiving people that you claim
them to be. They are Christians to (the one’s that I know). I really
hate to blow your view of creation. All I can say is that you are
misinterpreting the Bible big time. You said there is no mention of
God creating planets, and that we don’t live on one.. I happen to
live on one that God created. Let me ask you both a question..
Where in the Bible does it say we are living on a flat disc, with
a dome over it? It doesn’t say that anywhere either, but your
perception puts that into existence. God spoke of firmament and
dividing the firmament from the waters.. He also spoke of dividing
the darkness from the light. He never once says in Genesis that
he put you under a dome, or on a disc. YOU guys read that into
your own interpretations, that is never said in the Bible, or not
the one I have.
Religious scholars have gone round and round over the story of
Genesis for as long as the book has been in existence. Some say
that there are really 2 stories of creation contained in the book
of Genesis. The first part of the story is the creation of the spiritual
man, or in other words, your soul, which was made in his own image,
or as the Bible says, “Let us make man in OUR image”, and that
is when he created the spirit soul of man.. The second story deals
with the creation of the physical body of man, when Adam and Eve
were created. But in all of Genesis, when he created the universe,
he never once said that he was confining man under a dome made of
who knows what, nor does it ever say a flat disc. It says firmament,
which means “ground” or the earth beneath your feet. So since it
doesn’t ever say anything other than firmament, the ground could be
any shape, even a planet shape. He separated the land from the water,
for a place for man to dwell. So my planet is as valid in a Biblical sense
as is your flat disc. It never says he created a flat disc, nor a dome.
Show me where it says anything about a dome, or a flat disc.
And just for you Mongoose, you need to get out and do more things
bud.. You need to understand that not everyone is lying to you, or out
to get you.. Whereas the world can be a bad place, not everyone is
out to lie to you okay? Back in the 50′s and 60′s, men were more
honest than they are today, and really didn’t know much about space
at all. We all learned the hard way about what the universe is about,
and many mistakes were made. But we all learned together, and
what we know now, is what we as a people have concluded so far.
We all continue to learn, and we don’t know everything, or why
it is how it is, but we all as a species keep trying to find out as much
about the visible universe as we have the money and resources to
do so. NASA has some real good people working there that want
answers to the questions we all have.. Not everyone there are
dirty rats, nor do they want to lie to you. Some are not as good as
others, just as in any population, there are bound to be some rats
in the nest..but, overall, they do what they do to further our
knowledge. I disagree with them all of the time, but they are what
they are, and I deal with it.
And to both of you plus Jango: I know in your hearts you are trying
to ring the warning bell on “The great deception” as spoke of in
the Bible. I admire your mission greatly however, you are barking
up the wrong tree. The great deception has nothing to do with
the shape of the firmament. The great deception will be here in
it’s own time, and it will be a much larger deal than what shape
the ground is under our feet. So pay attention, and get onto
the right bandwagon please. Every minute you spend on the shape
of the firmament and swaying possibly thousands of people onto
this “wrong” bandwagon, the less time they have to think about
what the real issue will be. And NO, I won’t say what I believe
that issue is, so don’t ask. I really think you need to come to
your own conclusions on this issue.. but the road you are going
down is not correct. It’s gonna be way bigger than what you
think it is. It will be something that takes away people’s belief in
God. No one cares if the planet is flat or a sphere, either way
they would still believe in God. So get on the right path, on
what will shatter people’s belief in God. Then you will be on
the right path. Just a plea from me… Please get off of this
issue.. It goes nowhere. It creates arguments that mean nothing,
toward the goal you think you are trying to attain. So PLEASE
think harder, and get on the right path.
“And just for you Mongoose, you need to get out and do more things
bud.. You need to understand that not everyone is lying to you, or out
to get you..”
I really don’t know what you are on about. I never made any such claims.
Finally dialog…
Anonymous, You mention you are Christian, but you never mention Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. I’m sorry but some Christian’s are name only. With that said
Nasa is just like the military it is compartmentalized need to know basis. I’m sure there are good people that work there and many maybe Christians. That’s why I pray that God will deal with their hearts and they will expose the deception. I feel from what God is showing me that Nasa and all of the other space fakes will be dismantled from the inside out in the coming year or years. As we speak there are a lot people are already turning against them. So before we get to scripture there are a few questions that I need know, just so I know where you are coming from.
Do you believe that nasa went to the moon?
Do you know how and why nasa was created?
Do you believe that ISS is real?
Now Scripture
You said “you happen to live on a planet that God created. This is your belief from what? There is no mention of planet in the Bible . Man just took plane and added a t, to call it a planet. Now I’m not going to send you all 200 verses that prove we live in a enclosed creation but here is a few that you can research yourself. But first let’s talk about the firmament. The scripture that I read from means Heaven. And that there are three heavens and God and Jesus Christ Yashua are in the third Heaven {His Throne}. The firmament is the first Heaven. Scriptures as follows.
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let it divide the waters from the waters. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Raqiya (Firmament) A Hebrew term meaning: vault or dome of heaven(sky) supporting waters above. Ancient Hebrews believed the sky was a solid dome with the Sun, Moon and stars embedded in it.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia: The Hebrews regarded the earth as a plain or a hill figured like a hemisphere, swimming on water: Over this is arched the solid vault of Heaven.
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of Heaven.
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of Heaven in his clearness. This sure sounds a lot like a solid dome to me.
Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. So Gods throne is above the firmament.
Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: So how can you call the firmament the ground or earth? When it clearly states in scripture it is the first Heaven were the sun, moon and stars are placed. No mention of planets.
If you haven’t seen the video, you need to look at “Sending Thor to Smash the Firmament”. But you need to go in about 18 min, the beginning is Kennedy speaking. Nasa and the government know we live under a dome and they sent many nukes to try to break through it (Operation Fishbowl). Why would they call it operation fishbowl? So there is your proof we live under a dome. We cannot escape the dome, there is no space just water and Gods Throne.
So then you mention we were barking up the wrong tree. What tree should we be barking at? Do you know that there are more people accepting Jesus Christ Yashua as their Lord and savior because they are finding out the truth that satan has deceived them. Atheist are coming to know Jesus Christ Yashua because they are reading the bible some for the first time. Youtube is exploding with video after video of truth. Check out “Celebrate truth, Rob Skiba and countless of others. This is going to be the greatest revival the world has ever witnessed because of truth. This is your belief that people don’t care. They do care that’s why they a finding Jesus Christ Yashua because of truth. Why if you call yourself a Christian that you would believe a sun worshiper “Copernicas” who satan used to deceive the world with heliocentric satanic ball earth matrix over the word of God? Do you actually believe that God gave Copernicas the knowledge to disprove he even exist? Do you really believe that nasa is telling the truth? This why we believe that God created the earth as an enclosed creation dome earth is very important because it speaks truth and it’s winning souls.. You tell me what’s more important than winning souls? This so called issue is not going away because finally people are waking up to the truth.
The great deception will be when Nasa and the other space fakes out there are dismantled, satan will have no choice but to reveal or create a fake invasion to try to prove to the world that we have space brothers. And that they are here to help us and we should trust them. And people will worship the antichrist because he will have powers and will be able to communicate with them. This is the great deception. That’s why I believe that science is and will be the one world religion. These are nothing more than demons to deceive the world. You said the deception will be something that takes away the belief in God. They are already destroying God with the big bang and evolution. The truth of Gods enclosed dome creation destroys the big bang and evolution. So unless you believe in these two theories why are you fighting Flat earth? Until the whole world knows.
thanks for the laugh
You are right about the 1000 mile an hour wind thing but wrong about everything else.
/conspiracy-theories/2016/02/false-flat-earth-arguments-that-should-be-avoided-2473966.html
If you believe the bible then you should understand that the vatican who speaks in Jesus’ name was monumental in making the people except the globe model as reality.
Have you ever seen a quasar? I mean a real one, not the cgi ones on tv? Me either, you just believe what the tv says.
How do you know that supernovas even exist? Did the tv tell you that as well, maybe some school books, you know, the same books that say that we evolved from pondscum?
Do you then believe the tv and the books when they say that we evolved from pond scum as well? Or do you pick and choose which lies to believe?
Take your meds
Ranulph Fiennes is still alive, the transglobe expedition 1981-82
went all the way around crossing antartica on land and coming out
the other side
why don’t you do an interview with him
the earth is a sphere, people.
http://www.transglobe-expedition.org/page/the-expedition
http://www.ranulphfiennes.co.uk/
because the one guy, group, who is still alive couldn’t be freemason liars. that would be IMPOSSIBLE.
those who wish to hide the true nature of our earth would never stoop so low as to fabricate the findings of an ‘expedition’. they would bilk the people out of trillions, faking space, faking a globe earth, faking all manner of things, but i am certain they wouldn’t fake ONE expedition.
why the antarctic treaty? why not civilian expeditions?
JUST ASK NEIL ARMSTRONG. HE SAID THEY WENT TO THE MOON. MUST BE SO. RIGHT?
simple answer to this whole globe vs flat debate. get nasa to show us a live stream, 24 hour a day view of the spinning ball. with all the satellites, it shouldn’t be hard to do. they can go TO MARS for god’s sake, but they can’t show us a live stream of our own home?
why didn’t we set up cameras on the frickin moon??????
we collected some rocks, put up a flag and never left a camera, ffs???
USE YOUR NOODLE.
Some people haven’t figured it out yet that we have been fed monumental lies for centuries/millennia now. From both world wars to the big bang outer space astrophysics and religion including evolution.
Many things we have been told about ourselves and our very existence are just control mechanisms to keep the people on top on top and to keep everyone else living in powerless ignorance.
Knowledge really is power and certain royal families and “court jew” families have done everything they can to make sure that they maintain control over it.
yes.
That is what I believe it to be.
Ex Supertanker Navigating officer here,
I have circumnavigated the planet 3 times
The Earth is more or less spherical…. Why else do you suppose the art of global navigation is based on spherical trigonometry and Napiers Rules? If it were flat, it would be based on plane trigonometry.
The Flat Earth subject is a CIA sponsored Psyop to see how gullible people are and to discredit the truth seeking conspiracy crowd, google has reported a 600% increase in “Flat Earth” searches in the past cpl of years.
I always thought 95% of the Earths population are idiots, the gullible folks who believe and perpetuate this Flat Earth myth need to get a real education.
Ex NASA astronaut here,
I pretended to circumnavigate the globe in space several times.
Do you really expect anyone to believe that you were a supertanker navigation officer when you begin your comment the way that you did?
Did the cia inform you of this Psyop or is that just an opinion that someone else formed for you on the internet?
Also, if the earth is a globe and we have gps satellites, why would you be using trig to navigate at all?
Mongoose, truthordare is right, it is a psyop program. Most of us know
this and have known it for quite some time. What is so shocking is how
well it is working! Kudos to the CIAgent boys! Scored a home run with
this one! Unbelievable. Wonder how much deeper it can get?
A dumbed down society is an easily controlled society. That is the
goal here. Looks like they have already achieved the goal.
Can’t wait to see what’s next!
Did you just admit we have GPS satellites? Progress? How can
GPS systems work without satellites? How can they orbit the earth
if there is a dome in the way? Hmmm think hard mongoose and work
with your handlers to figure that one out.
I used to think your generation would be the generation to save us all.
Now I no longer believe that to be true. Total disaster awaits us all.
If such a fundamental thing as living on a round earth is not possible to
this generation and they can be psyop’d at will so easily, hmmmm..
Not gonna plan on anything with a future run by total morons.
How do you know that it is a psyop? Did the cia tell you this. Are you a member of the cia?
Have you ever considered that it is the cia that is calling this a psy op?
The ramifications of the earth being flat are enormous and that is why this topic is so heavily pa trolled by shills and the fools that follow them.
It can be easily proven that the globe model is not true. The globe is the psyop, a very successful one at that.
/science-and-technology/2016/03/this-is-what-convinced-me-that-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-globe-is-bunk-2814558.html
Do you think that a poorly written article or some sort of speculation made me come to the conclusion that the earth was flat?
There is 100 percent verifiable, physical, and observable proof that the globe model is fiction.
It is the path of the midnight arctic sun along with many other things such as line of sight being much greater in reality then the curvature of the earth on the globe model would make possible.
Anyone who has really looked into this and thought about it has come to the same conclusion.
There is alot of disinfo out there though to make the subject sound stupid and it’s advocates seem to be mentally deficient.
/conspiracy-theories/2016/02/false-flat-earth-arguments-that-should-be-avoided-2473966.html
In all fairness, I watched the bad video you listed here.
there are to major flaws in it, and with respect to you
and to make you think, I want you to figure out what
the two mistakes are that make the whole synopsis,
skewed data. You are smart guy, you can figure it out.
The video is just there as a visual reference. The text and the physical principles it demonstrates is what is important.
The path of the midnight arctic sun disproves the globe model. This cannot be debunked. It is the smoking gun that kills the globe.
You must be the same anon that left that comment stating that the man was giant or something like that.
It is just a visual aid that I found and added since I have discovered that many people have a hard time visualizing what we should observe from the arctic circle vs. what is actually observed.
Also an ant would see the same thing as a human or a 5000ft tall giant if the sun were 93,000,000 miles away.
Read the text and think about it. We should see a path in the shape of an oval, plain and simple.
Flat earth you oval shill. So what “Supertanker Navigating” did you do? What plane and your stops? Explain why you have to fly from South America up to Hong Kong and back down to Sydney then; when its faster and shorter then flying between the 2 points directly? If its round, it would be easier and shorter to fly from point a to b, yet you have to go to point c? The southern hemisphere is not the same as your northern hempishere, so you are not telling the whole truth now are you?
Clearly a clueless shill, who never travelled below the Equator. Its because very few of any navigators travel below the Equater…. You need special instructions now don’t you. What are you not telling all your story. So do you have those documents of your travelling around the world in the southern hemisphere? Of course not, because you weren’t specially trained now were you?
To bad, we told him to be careful or he would walk off the edge.
Did they fall off the edge that doesn’t exist ?
OK, some of you still don.t get so I’m going to post this again.
Let’s begin with a topic that most of you will call me crazy among other names. I understand why you would, because i was one of you at one time that called others crazy. Get ready for it ….Flat earth. So lets start with Nasa and how we have been programed from the education centers to believe we live on a spinning blue marble. First if you really believed we went to the moon, you will never believe flat earth. You need to look up the video “Funny thing that happen on the way to the moon” Nasa is getting ready to be dismantled because of all of the fakery they have created. The ISS is fake, the satellites are fake. I know,” but I see them with my telescope”. It is all hologram technology. “But I,ve seen the videos of them on the ISS”. this is all hollywood blue screen and they use G planes for the anti gravity effect. Do your own research you will find the truth. Even the pictures they have of the earth are all photoshoped composites or CGI. So now you ask”why are faking these things what else are they hiding? They are hiding the fact that we live on a non moving geocentric enclosed creation. I really believe calling it flat earth does not really describe the beautiful nature of geocentric enclosed dome that God created for us. There was so many other questions I started to ask. Why can we see clouds behind the moon and the sun if they are millions of miles away from the earth? Why if we are spinning a thousand miles an hour and spinning around the sun and the sun spins around the galaxies, that we see the same constellations in the night sky? Why do we see the same side of the moon every night no matter were you live? These were just some of the questions among no curvature of the earth. So as a Christian I went to the infallible word of God and realized that there are over 200 scriptures that describes the earth and not one scripture describes it as a spinning ball. There is nothing mentioned about planets. or that we are a planet. This was all made up by man inspired by satan. This all started with Copernicas who was part of the Jesuit order and was a sun worshiper. Copernicas wanted to make the sun the center so it could be worshiped. So why would satan inspire man to create this deception of a heliocentric ball earth matrix? Because if we knew that the earth is geocentric non moving enclosed creation it would destroy the big bang and evolution theory’s therefore proving a creator. if you go back to Genesis, Genesis 1:6 “And God said, Let it divide the waters from the waters. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters”. So there is water above the firmament. Is this why the sky is blue? Have you ever noticed that right before nightfall you see a blue sky and if you really look at the night the sky is still blue just a very dark blue. Genesis 1:7 “And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so”. Raqiya (Firmament) A Hebrew term meaning: vault or dome of heaven(sky) supporting waters above. So according to infallible word of God we are protected by a dome. Here are some other verses that do not mention planets. Genesis 1:16 “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also”.
LUKE 21:25 “There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves”. The other thing if you notice is the sun and moon are nothing more than lights. they were set in the firmament. Here’s something to ponder, if you were wanting to brighten a room would you get a light as big as a football stadium? no you would find a spot light bright enough to illuminate that room. That is all the sun is a bright spotlight and its only about 3000 miles away. Also scriptures tells us that the moon gives off its own light. You can check this one for yourself . Go get one of those laser thermometers and during the day point it at something the the sun is shining on and record the temp. Now point the same laser at a shaded area, you will of course find that the temp in the shaded area is lower. Now do the same with moon light, you will notice that the shade from the moon the temp is higher. Why, if the sun is reflecting off the moon then the moonlight should be a higher temp than that is shaded from the moonlight. That’s because the moon absorbs heat. Things that make you go “huh”. So we have been lied to for over 500 years for the deception that is to come. There is no space, there is no planets, just wondering stars . So then you ask what are theses anomalies that people are seeing. The bible speaks of Satan falling to earth. Revelation 12:12 Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” Could this be what is about to happen I don’t know we will just have to wait and see. All I know is that there is more proof of an geocentric enclosed dome earth than the satanic heliocentric ball earth matrix that satan wants us to believe. This is wonderful because God created the earth to be the center and everything revolves around us. God and Jesus Christ Yashua reside above the firmament and there is no fear of an asteroid or planet crashing into earth. For years Nasa and the governments of the world who are run by the Jesuits and the Illuminati new about the firmament. Look up operation (Fishbowl) in the early sixties. Nasa and Rusia was using high altitude nukes to try to break through the firmament with no success. Thats why Cerne was created with the fallen angels technology to find a portal through the firmament to release the spiritual demonic entities into our physical realm. Maybe there is a connection with Cerne and the changes with the magnetic fields and the anomalies people are seeing. By the way there is no south pole and the government knows this. Antarctica with its 200 feet walls of ice surrounds the earth to keep the waters in. Thats why there is a treaty that was signed by many countries to protect that secret and to keep us from knowing the truth. Do not take my word all of this, please do your own research to find the truth. I am nobody just a vessel that is being used to plant a seed. If you don’t know Jesus Christ Yashua as your Lord and savior. Ask him now and repent, we are not guarantied tomorrow. Until the whole world knows
Seen it for yourself have you? Or like every other flathead, You never passed math’s so you just believe the person that baffle’s you with bullschips because you can’t keep up and obviously need that dominating force of SOMEONE TO THINK FOR YOU in your life. I think i will Rename you flathead’s. HEAVEN’S GATE 2
Insulting people you disagree with is always a good way to prove your superior intellect and demonstrate to others that your position is the correct one.Oh wait, never mind that was only true in grade school.
I see that you are attempting to appeal to the lowest common denominator in your replies. I guess you think that some people will not look into the subject because they are afraid that you will call them names.
tooquickfor a thirdgrader,
YOU are the one who can only scoff and regurgitate the lies that YOU have been told.
YOU are the one who cannot do basic ‘math’s’.
YOU have never seen the spinning ball for YOURSELF.
YOU “need that dominating force of SOMEONE TO THINK FOR YOU in your life.”
FLAT EARTH RESEARCHERS HAVE DECIDED TO LOOK FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF BELEEBING WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD BY A LYING, CHEATING, MURDEROUS, SOUL-SUCKING CABAL.
you are braindead.
i will rename YOU … dummy.
Well, not many people could see the spinning ball for themselves as
not many own rockets.. What a lame comeback.
That is sort of like saying there is no ocean floor at the
Marianas trench, and if you hadn’t been down there to see
it for yourself, there must not be an ocean floor there. Well
not many people have seen it, only 2 people have so far,
but then again, they were working with NASA on the
mission, so it must be fake and a lie.. There is no floor at
the bottom of the Marianas trench. No one can live at
those crushing depths. And none of us have seen it with
our own eyes.. So it is all just a lie, no floor down there at all.
Next you’ll be a STEVEN CHRIST follower if your not careful ,Seriously
BWAHAHAHA this is so funny, well played auz, that fkn steven, hahahaha, not as gay as gayel, but still, id love to foight steven,. pay per view, sigh, not allowed, 2 years left afore i cans even compete or anything, and like, why aint these messiahs put to “trial by combat” an stuff,. they must be able to save self before saving other eh,. and, look at me mommy im agreein with auz an mason syco! feckin hell!
Flat Earth = Flat wave on a brain scan.
Goodness, what is in the Antarctica is secret bases, they have been there for many years. Scientists are flown in Antarctica all the time, the military is very dug in there, no one is allowed anywhere near these bases, period. What is there is pur speculation, anyone who works there never lives to tell, pilot’s who have flown there to deliver supplies and human cargo have speculated that it is a alien run facilities. , scientists who come back from these bases are thoroughly change, many resign and leave their professions.
The government’s of our world are hiding a huge secret there in the Antarctic, all kinds of treaties have been signed.. If the earth were flat as many here think it is, why would it need to be a secret, too many people have been in space from many countries, I think it’s 90,000 feet where you can observe the earth in its entirety.
No, it’s really of no importance to hide the shape of the earth, and why this fuss about the earth being flat has legs is beyond my understanding. Antarctica has been a place for the military for a very long time, what’s going on there is far more frightening than the earth being flat, for sure.
Hey guys and gals, check out this great Earth Curvature clip that
Blue Origins just filmed from their launch.. No NASA involvement.
A private corporation’s rocket reaches 390,000 feet and you
can clearly see the globe earth, without any of your NASA lies!
So are their camera’s lying to you too?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/new-shepard-third-landing/
You’re joking right? that was clearly shot with a fisheye lens.
That is why the earth appears concave in the very beginning. That was also shot with a fisheye lens.
If the earth were really that curved, it would be tiny.
Every video shot with a normal lens with no curved windows in the way demonstrates a completely flat horizon.
The earth is not round because the lens is round, so the earth has to be flat, just pay no mind to the flat lens showing it that way… Why must smart folk like yourself insult the intelligence of the reader by having us suffer through such hypocrisy?
Yep, you caught me there mongoose, they were using a fish eye lens and
the earth surely must be flat then… Wow, glad I jumped on board with you
guys.. You got me and won me over on that one.
But I need some help here, so I can stay converted to flat earther at last
and for good.. Please help me on this one okay?
Let’s say I get on my sailboat tomorrow and I pick out a star on the
western part of the dome, and I sail straight at that star.
Okay? Now I will keep using that star as my path of travel.
At some point, I should come to the ice wall, or so you would think.
Now we are not going south to antarctica, we are going west.
I keep going west and west and west and west, but yet when will
I get to the ice wall? Now I am not following a curved path, but a
straight one pointing at that one star, so I can’t curve around on the
flat earth.. I am going straight as an arrow. How many miles will I have
to go to hit the ice wall to the west? Have you ever heard of anyone
finding it going west? Or East? I want to see it, so how many days
worth of groceries should I pack for the journey? How many days
or weeks, months etc, should it take before I get to it? I wish you
would get me into contact with someone who has sailed that same
trip, because I want some tips from them on what perils to watch
out for along the way. I have to know how cold it is on that path
too.. I know you can’t get near the south ice wall because it is
guarded, but the west ice wall should be wide open, since it is
no where near the south and antarctica.. So please let me know
how far the journey is gonna be, and how much food to pack.
My life is litterally going to be in your hands here, so please be
as accurate as you can be.. We leave out of port sometime early
next week, so please let me know how far it is and how much
food to pack.. There will be 3 of us on the trip, so you are
responsible to get it right here as we may die if you are not
accurate on the miles, or how much food to bring along..
Waiting on your answers..
Flat Earth Brain Kids, I need you to explain how a solar eclipse happens if the moon is painted on
a dome? Hmmmm? We watch the moon pass between the sun and earth.. How is that possible
if the moon is as close as the sun?
There are so many holes in all of your theories, even though they are presented in a very
convincing manner on all the video’s, someone with just average smarts, can debunk every point
made on them. But the slick presenters really do make convincing proclamations in how they
present the points, but logical minds easily sift through their deception.
I would love to see how the mechanics work on this dome of yours also. To me it makes
no sense whatsoever! Let me explain some points that you all need to explain with real logic
and not just shallow propaganda like the presenters do on the youtube films.
First off, we live in a yearly cycle.. What is a year? Logic would tell us that it is the
length of time that it takes the earth to circle the Sun in one orbit. How does your
dome define a year? Just when the stars painted on the dome happen to come back over
in the same configuration? Hmmm.. When the sun moves away, as in your model,
(and you will really have to think on this one) should not you be able to see all the stars?
In other words, If you can only see the constellation of Orion in the winter, why if they
were all painted on the dome, that once the sun moves away, why can’t you see Orion
in the Summer? It’s still painted on the dome, and you should be able to see ALL stars
painted on your dome, but yet you can’t see Orion in the summer. THINK HARD on that
one..
And here is a great question for you.. IF the Earth is flat, and the Sun is as bright as we
know it to be, you should be able to see it 24/7, at some point.. If it is just a few thousand
miles up, it would still be visible at all times at some point in the sky, unless somehow light
just refuses to shine, at a certain distance. Does light just quit, somehow? I have never
seen that happen in real life. In your model though it must just stop in some unknown way.
Use a flashlight to demonstrate how this happens. Turn off all your light, use your bedroom
floor as the flat earth.. Turn on your flashlight (sun substitute) above the floor in the dark
several feet above the floor. Put your head on the floor and have someone step on your
head (just kidding). With your head on the floor on the other side of the room, where
can you not see the light from your artificial sun? You will be able to see it no matter
where you are in the room.. Likewise, if even on a grander scale, you should be able
to see the sun on your flat earth, no matter where it is. Light can’t just quit shining
because something has moved farther away. It just doesn’t work that way. I know
some of your are gonna think of some lame excuse as to why it can just stop in mid-air
and not shine, but you can’t do that in any experiment to demonstrate your point.
So the flat earth theory just doesn’t hold up, no matter if NASA is lying, or not.
You should be able to see Orion all year long, when your little sun moves away,
and you should be able to see the sun shining in the distance, no matter where
you are on a flat plane, unless light just stops in mid flight between the source and
your eyes. Anything that bright would be seen no matter what the distance, and
no matter where you were on the flat plane of the earth.
Next point. Who guarded Antarctica during the 1700′s and the 1800′s? Your videos
say that Antarctica is guarded (since it is the ice wall) right? Did they guard it way back
in the 1400′s too? We have a map that was made way back in the 1400′s that clearly
shows Antarctica, in amazing detail! Did the guards slip up back then and let someone
through?
Another point, something as bright as the sun, is an atomic explosion. If the earth
was flat, when the US and Soviets, and all other countries that tested them, Since
you have to wear goggles to view the explosions, (proving they are as bright or
brighter than the sun), everyone should have been able to see them for vast
area’s of the planet when the detonated.. Why didn’t they see something that
bright? Because the earth is a sphere, and it was over the horizon!
Best point of all.. If we are on a flat static disk, Explain why Jupiter, Mars, Venus,
Saturn, and all of the other planets move as they do around on your painted
dome? They should stay in the same place all of the time, if painted on the
dome. But they move around in their orbits around the sun, and you have
no excuse as to how this happens, other than being in a true orbit.
This in itself proves that the sun is not just a few thousand miles away,
but is in fact 93 million miles away. Their orbits prove that they are going
around a huge massive sun. Each orbit can predict where each planet will
be in it’s orbit at any time. Mankind has that all down to a science. So
I will love to hear you disprove that! Since you can go outside most any
night and see that these planets change where they are in the sky over
the course of time, which their movement matches the orbits that we
KNOW that they are in, and YOU can watch them move as such in those
orbits with no trickery from NASA, or anyone else, YOU can watch them
move all on your own. How is this possible, if they are painted on a dome?
How do asteroids and meteors fit into your dome theory, no one ever
explains that. When the asteroid came and exploded over Russia a few
years back (caught by dozens of cameras) how did it slip through the dome?
Oh wait, it fell from the dome right? Every once in a while, some of the stars
God painted on the dome, come loose and fall down right? Or maybe he
didn’t use enough super glue when he attached them to the dome, and
they came loose, right?
Next point.. IF the sun is as small as y’all think it is, what is the source
of it’s limitless power? A sun tens of thousands of the volume of the earth
has a seemingly ample supply of gasses that create fusion and can burn
for billions of years..On the other hand a sun that is smaller than the disk Earth it shines on
has a power supply of??? Today’s science can explain how the massive sun has it’s
power supply and how it works, and just how does yours work? Being as small as
you think it is, would it not burn up it’s fuel in a short time? Hmmm, something to
think about. Even though I am still trying to figure out how it is different than any
other light source, and it’s rays can just quit in mid air! At 4000 miles away to 70,000
miles away, whichever you choose it to be, you could still see it no matter where
it was over a flat plane.
The videos can all be shot down by even my dog, and yet the presenters are so
slick as to how they deceive the viewers, that someone with below average
logic, can easily be sucked up into eating up all of the points they make, like candy.
Luckily, I am not so easily fooled by flimflam scam men and women. The truth is
the truth. In order for your model to work, you have to totally dismiss all physics
and logic at the same time. Now go forth and spread the propaganda! A
brilliant future awaits you! NOT.
And to that one gal, I think it was, the ISS is all fake?? Why is it when they
tell us when it will fly over, we go out and watch it and sure enough, here it
comes over the horizon, and flies right over? What are we seeing then??
Look at it through a telescope, and it isn’t a plane, you can see the solar
panels on it through the telescope, and see the main body as well. Wow,
that is a great trick, wonder how they do that one? Hmmmm..
iss is a hologram.
the moon produces her own light, independent of the sun.
there is a thing called ‘the vanishing point’. you cannot see forever. this plane is not the size of a city block, get it? this is why we cannot see the sun ‘all the time’.
how can there ever be a lunar or solar eclipse when the sun and moon are in the sky at the same time?
this happens!
how can we see a daytime moon?
flat earth researchers do not have all the answers. yet. we don’t claim to, but NEITHER DO YOUR SCIENCE GODS.
they have unproven, unrepeatable theories. these are not facts.
all we are doing is trying to find the TRUTH. stop for a minute and ask yourself why flat earth is trolled so hard. if it is so ridiculous, why try so hard?
TFG to even go any further. First requirement is some brain matter to work with,
and you have proven over and over the course of time, to not really have any
of that to work with. I hate saying that, but it is my conclusion at this point in time.
You are just Too Far Gone. You have an excuse for everything, and yet none of
your things amount to anything but total denial.. I would love to sit down for
hours and go over the entire system with you and how it works, but you have
already made your mind up with the presentation of total fools, who skew things
to make them look like valid scientific studies, that in reality can all be shown
as false, and I have yet to watch any video that I can’t blow holes in the theories
presented in them. I suppose it is as much a matter of experience, as anything
else. You don’t have any, and you accuse others of having none, even though
in reality, they do have experience. Such as the poor sap who was a ship
navigator, and you told him he wasn’t! You don’t know that he wasn’t! Yet you
accuse him of lying.. just as I told you I have flown airplanes more times
than I can count, but you say that isn’t true and I have no credibility. As long
as your mind is closed to anything that may possibly change it, you will remain
on the defensive forever. I don’t know why I bother, but its fun in a certain way
I suppose.. But as I said, it is a matter of observation, trust, and mostly
experience, to learn how the whole enchilada works. I should not care
what you think, but then again I do somehow or another. To me, you
represent a group of people that are being mislead in a serious way, and
I want you to get off that bandwagon and get into something more substantial.
I should just give up though, and let you all fail.
I just hope that you can do better in the future. There is no such thing as
a vanishing point and you know it. With something as bright as the sun, there
is no vanishing point. If there was, you would not see it when it is shining
in the thickest viewing point of the atmosphere, at dawn or at dusk. You
know it to be true what I am saying, but yet you come up with these lame
excuses to preserve your opinion of the flat earth theory. You know I am
right, and you know that it is just another one of your proclamations to
save face and come up with an excuse to promote your position. It’s
really sad that you have to do that, but it is what it is.
There really is no hope for you guys. I may still chime in for fun from
time to time, but I have given up all hope for you, Jango, his sister and
so many others. It’s just a real sad thing to witness. At first I thought
it was all a big joke, until I learned that y’all actually believe in this stuff.
Then I was in shock! I remain in shock!