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Flat Earth PSYOP: Why Such an Absurd Conspiracy Was Created to Destroy the Worldwide Truth Movement---Updated

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TMR Editor’s Note:
There is perhaps no greater Internet-wide PSYOP than the CIA-directed Flat Earth Conspiracy (FEC).  This covert black operation has London’s notorious Tavistock Institute written all over it. 

The Millennium Report has posted extensively on this extremely effective PSYOP since its inception.  We have felt compelled to address it one last time because of a number of prominently configured truth-tellers who either subscribe to the FEC utter nonsense or who provide a safe haven to discuss their absurd and distracting ‘theories’.  

How is it that some major alternative news websites even host the ridiculous ramblings of Flat Earthers … … … unless they, themselves, have been set up to do so?  If ever there was a universal hot-button issue on the World Wide Web that ought to send up big bright RED flags, any website or blog that takes this mental diarrhea seriously is it.  Unless they are totally exposing the FEC for the wacky (yet contrived) insanity that it truly is, why even go there. 

No one is saying that the current scientific paradigm that involves both astrophysics and astronomy is not full of holes.  Nor is there any reason to stop questioning every aspect of those various disciplines of modern science which have been shown to fall short … some woefully short of the mark.  However, the FEC was designed from the get-go to take any rational discussion into a completely irrational direction.

Really, who doesn’t know by now that NASA will lie and misrepresent whenever it behooves them to maintain their New World DisOrder?  Are the sane and rational among us going to throw the baby out with the bath water because of perennial NASA prevarication?

For those who are uninitiated in this area of inquiry, the following links will bring you up to speed.

FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’ Demonstrates The Alarming Gullibility Of People Everywhere

Flat Earthers SYSTEMatically Used To Disrupt And Undermine Truth Movements Everywhere

The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them

Flat Earth Theory Fabricated By TPTB To Distract, Divert and Misdirect

With these articles understood the one posted below will be much more easily comprehended. 

The Millennium Report
August 29, 2016

N.B If ever there was a MUST VIEW video concerning the fabricated Flat Earth phenomenon, the following presentation on leading Flat Earth promoter Eric Dubay is it. Truly, only seeing is believing!

VIDEO: Flat Earth Psyop Eric Dubay

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(It’s “what if the earth were flat” you tin hatters!)

 

Flat Earth Psy Op is the Real Conspiracy 

 The Flat Earth fad is a “conspiracy theory” designed to
distract, divide and discredit those who understand 
modern society has been enslaved by the Judeo Masonic
(Satanic) conspiracy. It  creates cognitive dissonance, and
make us question all our assumptions, especially those which
are True.
 
 
by Sean Caiside

(henrymakow.com)

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“This flat earth stuff is to mess with your mind.”

 
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According to some,  the earth is in fact a flat disc and not a globe. This meme took off after Obama equated climate change deniers to members of the “Flat Earth Society.” Within 12 months, YouTube was flooded with a mass of videos.
 
 

The assumptions of this Meme are:

1. The Earth is a Flat Disc.
2. Our globe-shaped world orbiting the sun is a myth.
3. The sun and moon are spherical, but much smaller than mainstream science states, and they rotate around a plane of the Earth, because they appear to do so.
4. Arctic Circle in the centre and Antarctica is a continent forming an ice rim of 150-foot-tall wall of ice, NASA and the military guard this wall to stop you climbing over it and falling off the end of the Earth.
5. Gravity is an illusion. When driving, it is not gravity that pins you to the road, but the rapid upward motion of a disc-shaped planet.
6. Space exploration and the moon landings are all faked.
7. The Sun is not 93 million miles away but is much smaller and only 4,000 miles above the Earth.
8. Horizon is always at eye level.  (See also- Ten Absurd Claims  of Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists)
 

(Left, Tiny sun circle above flat earth. How it also heats the world isn’t explained.)

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They fail to address:

 1. What lies underneath the Earth and how the disc sits or what holds it up. [The earth sits on the back of giant tortoise- Makow]

2. Cannot explain orbiting satellites or GPS. They rationalize that Satellites are a hoax and GPS only exists due to a network of radio transmitters.
 
3. How does the Sun circle the Earth for night and day. They say Sun travels via zero space and instantaneously appears on the other side of the disc. When facts and science contradict, they make up nonsensical explanations. First, gravity does not exist and then it does exist to bend the sun’s rays. This is when they are explaining why you can’t view the other end of the Earth. To debunk a globe model; they have yet to produce is a photo of edge of the flat earth.
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BACKGROUND

 
 
Conspiracy theorist Eric Dubay launched the International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS) claiming all others were “controlled opposition”. Dubay stands out for a documentary claiming Adolf was a peaceful, honourable individual unfairly tarnished by the Zionist media.
 
Flat Earthism is like a new religion with its dogmas  and many schisms. Three websites vying for flat earth supremacy differ from the trivial (who had the idea first) to the argumentative (Are the Jews to blame for suppressing flat-Earth truths?). Everybody is trying the define it; there is no unified theory.
 
Flat earther, Daniel Shenton states, “There is no unified flat Earth model but the most commonly accepted one is that it’s more or less a disc, with a ring of something to hold in the water. The height and substance of that, no one is absolutely sure, but most people think it’s mountains with snow and ice.”
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PSY OP

 
This is a “PsyOp” which requires large funding from intelligence agencies and governments and corporations. It has become a tool of reverse psychology e.g. if you are broad minded enough to know 911 was a false flag; and now just accept Flat Earth theories. When you engage with this Psyop, a paid shill replies from their “Flat Earth Manual” like some cyborg, there is a mass of paid bloggers on CIA pay roll to push this.
 
 
(above. They think the earth is the center of universe.)
 
The meme is the ideal project for mind-control that could be devised by Tavistock institute & CIA. It is amazing how many clever, well-meaning and spiritually oriented individuals have been suckered in by this transparent pseudo-scientific sham.
 
The psy op is designed to create cognitive dissonance. You’ve been lied to your whole life to believe in the Globe model.
 
What is the underlying agenda? Lumping Christians and Truthers in a divide and rule strategy; some will fall for this trick while others won’t be easily deceived by this nonsense. This flat earth stuff is to mess with your mind.
 
Flat Earthers exchange one set of lies for another. My advice is to eschew cognitive dissonance and reside in truth.

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First Comment from Ingmor:
About 1 year ago, conspiracy youtubers started getting flooded with flat earth video recommendations even though they had previously never watched a flat earth video in their life. Cass Sunstein, left, chief Obama administration propagandist describes this technique in his book “Nudge.” The technique is to target groups whose opinion they want to shape and gently nudge in the certain directions with several techniques. These include infiltrators and internet forums or comments sections of articles as well as using connections with websites such as youtube to give people recommendations based on their data to push them where they need to go.

Up until now on youtube, this has been most notably used for pushing the reptillian story as well as other bizarre new age conspiracy angles to make people discredit themselves when talking about truth as well getting lost in labyrinths of insanity. It has also been used for other topics such as global warming, zionism, and alternative health (which Sunstein specifically mentions in his book). It is important that the nudging is gentle and incremental.

I have come across many people who just one year ago were speaking serious truths. Now all they want to talk about is the flat earth, something of no consequence compared to the murder of almost all of humanity.

These people have been NEUTRALIZED

Makow comment: I think they have made their point. A lot of so-called “Truthers” are mentally unstable. Pilots would have flown over the edge and under the disc long ago.

David Livingstone: “I think it’s pretty obvious what it’s designed to do: the absorb the “truth” community in complete nonsense. But such utter nonsense that it will completely discredit anyone nearly associated with it. Talk about 9/11 now, or the Illuminati, or Bilderberg and you can be denounced as a “flat earther”. And this is a paragraph from my book Black Terror White Soldiers.

“The notion that the people of Columbus’ time believed the earth was flat was a myth invented during the 19th century by two Skull and Bones members to discredit Christianity, as part of what is known as the “Conflict Thesis”:

More anti-Christian propaganda was created in the seventeenth century when historians invented what is known as the “Flat Earth Myth,” which claimed that Medieval Christian Europe believed the earth was actually flat, a notion that was supposedly contested by Columbus. The myth was created as part of a campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell claims “with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat,” and he regards that the myth gained currency in the nineteenth century due to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper’s History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White’s History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896).[i] Dicksen was member of the notorious Skull and Bones at Yale and co-founder of Cornell University.[ii] Draper and White were the most influential exponents of the Conflict Thesis, the proposition that there is an intrinsic intellectual conflict between religion and science and that the relationship between religion and science inevitably leads to public hostility. Draper’s book received worldwide recognition and was translated into several languages, but was banned by the Catholic Church.

[i] Russell, Jeffrey Burton (1997), “The Myth of the Flat Earth,” Studies in the History of Science (American Scientific Affiliation).

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    • DistantCousin

      I am left feeling like the Idiot Child that broke his Favorite Toy.
      Like the little boy who wound up the spring in his toy auto, until it “Sproinged”

      Jango
      Thinning Veil
      Truth Loving Soul (And All of Your Alters)
      Mongoose
      Assorted under-educated Annonymouses.

      At least, for the time being, You have vanished into the Whispy Fog of a Silent
      Flat Earth Twilight.

      Zurich Times
      Paranormal Stories
      Thinning Veil Report
      Jango,

      No New Posts, I Don’t Hear Crickets. Must I Go Into That Good Night – - -
      Without One Fact Based Rebuttal of the Main Points That I Have Made???

      If Your Memory Fails You, Do a Site-Search for Distant Cousin and Refresh
      your Mind! Sharpen Your Weapons, Load Your Rifle Right – - –
      And Rejoin Me In The Battle!!!
      As I have Not Yet Begun To Fight!!!

      O Nanarchiste Bourre finds the life in Bayern quite Boring as Well, and
      would relish your “Camaraderie – - – -

      Bring Your Sharpest Weapons, (I am not thinking of Wit)
      And Join Us In This Good Battle!!!!!
      “Silence, Driven by Cowardice, is an Emotional Reaction,
      That Is Best Reserved For Mere Mortals”
      RR. :cool:

      !!!Vive La Révolution De La Sphère Tournante!!!

      • Jango

        This “Absurd Conspiracy” was actually created by God. You can mock it, disbelieve it, laugh at it, and criticize it, but all that this proves is that you do not want to have anything to do with God. And that’s your right. You can continue believing the science instead of God. And even if you don’t want to have anything to do with God, he still loves you and sent his Son Jesus to die for your sins to give you the opportunity to turn back to Him. If you don’t want that either, then you will someday stand before him and be judged for all your sins after which you will be cast into the lake of fire. This is NOT what God wants, He has done everything he needed to so that you would turn back to him, even sending me to tell you this. But the choice is yours. If you DO want to get right with God you can do so here. ItsHisStory.com

        • DistantCousin

          Jango, So You Are Alive and Kickin’,
          It always comes back to the same Point Between Us,
          You Say I have to Deny FACT To Believe In Your GOD.

          And I Say That If I am Forced to Believe Lies and Falsehood
          To Believe In Your GOD, To join with you in Bearing
          False Witness against Men with True Accomplishment – - – -

          Then I say that what Hides Behind your Anonymity and
          your Pretty Icon Picture is Something Dark.

          Until I can Make Fact Correlate with your Claims,
          I will hold the Belief that You are an Agent of Darkness,
          Operating with Malice of Forethought.

          And No, I Don’t make statements Lightheartedly.
          Tis Not, WWF
          R.
          (I am far, far from a perfect man Jango, but I at the
          very Least lack the Arrogance to hold myself up as a
          Shining Beacon for others. I do not talk my Book,
          nor go about waving my own Flag. Normally, I border
          on Reclusive with my thoughts.

        • Morgana Le Fay

          If you truly believe the Earth is flat (which I doubt, as I personally think you’re a disinformation operative); please feel free to sail off the edge.

        • uknowthetruth

          u dumbshit you can not believe in science thats not how it works lol. science isnt something like religion, rather see it as a form of language or a tool, but nah its not comparable to religion in any way, shape or form lol

      • 2QIK4U

        Thankyou. For having more patience than I :lol:

        • Jango

          The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise…he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

          • DistantCousin

            And How is His Patience With You?

            Where in the Bible Does It Say To Use A “Graven
            Image” that could be “Mistaken” to Represent
            Yeshua, who is by many accepted as the
            Maschiach????

            My Understanding is that Graven Images
            Themselves, not even Involving Maschiach
            are Forbidden. For Me, A Main Part of Your
            Sales Pitch is a Sin.
            In Modern Society, in some ways this
            Commandment is Broken Continuously.
            Is Your Icon somehow “Less Sinful” ???

            In My Opinion We Are Talking About A
            Sin Much Worse than Planetary Geometry
            Misunderstanding.

            Do Something Out Of The Ordinary, (For You)
            Tell The Truth
            Don’t Hide Again, Post the Scriptures.
            SOFORT!!!!

            RR :mad:

            • Jango

              I am not going to debate the issue with you because we are both entitled to our opinion and best to leave it at that. I am going to have to stand before God as you will someday and we will both have our eyes opened to different things. That’s because God is supreme and knows everything and we don’t. This is his universe, we are just his guests for a short time. God Bless…

            • DistantCousin

              Then Jango,
              You and I should be operating at the same
              level of Fear. Maybe.

              And Why Is Opinion OK For You, But You
              Cram Opinion (and Worse) on Others.

              R.

          • 2QIK4U

            I wasn’t talking to you Fake Jesus :roll:

      • UmanMike

        :arrow: :idea: …just count the words in the first paragraph of this article that are judgemental – emotional – derogatory – …and compare that to the number of (verifiable) facts! Simple! :lol: :arrow: :idea:

      • UmanMike

        Or the more obvious for the more simple-minded: explain why we call it a _PlanET_ and not spheriO or glObe? PlaneT – in your face, boy! It’s called etymology…. :eek: :arrow: :idea: :lol:

        • 2QIK4U

          It isn’t a plane i garaunTee that much.

      • RoGiC

        Perhaps if I post this up top someone will attempt to answer these questions:

        Ball Earthers please explain why Polaris never moves and the stars form circles around it in long-term exposure photos. Why does this phenomena only show the spin of the Earth and not the much faster movement of the Earth around the Sun or the even faster movement of the Sun around the Galactic Center or the even greater speed of the expansion of the Universe from the “Big Bang”?

        Why are the constellations exactly as they appeared to the earliest observers and not spreading out and moving further away from each other as science says that it does? Shouldn’t we see a completely different sky than the ones recorded in Mesopotamia if modern astronomers are correct in their theories?

        If the Earth is spinning as it travels around the Sun, why is the Sun always above us at noon? Shouldn’t this only occur once a year and slowly move towards the Sun being above us at midnight 6 months later?

        Also, please explain how rivers work on a ball, do they not have to travel uphill on a ball before going back downhill to the sea?

        Mathematically the curvature of the ball Earth is 8″ per mile squared meaning that a 6′ person would not be visible at 3 miles at sea level because they would be behind the curve, at 10 miles he would be 66′ below the horizon. How about explaining that math Syco? How can realtors sell 20 and 30 mile views if they are scientifically impossible?

        And another thing, why don’t flights between South America and Australia go over Antarctica as this would be the most efficient route?

        Please use your 5 senses and a rational brain to answer these questions and not something you learned in a government textbook. Thanks!

        • LifeIs

          RoGiC I’ll answer them.

          1. Polaris does move. Over time. The pictures you describe are taken in a day, not in a year.

          Polaris and the Sun are both moving around the galactic center, and moving with the galaxy as a whole. That’s why you don’t see that motion at all.

          2. The stars in the familiar constellations are moving around the galactic center as the Sun is, and they are moving with the galaxy.

          We don’t have precise measurements from thousands of years ago, so I can’t tell you how close they were, to where they are now.

          As for the expanding universe story, that depends on redshift being recessional velocity and nothing else. And we know that other things cause redshift.

          We also know that the cosmic microwave background is not uniform, does not come equally from all directions. Which means there is no support, zero, for the big bang myth. If the absurdities of it didn’t convince you already, that should.

          3. The spinning of the Earth on its axis is not synchronized with the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. It’s noon whenever the Sun is at its highest point in the sky. At whatever point in our orbit.

          4. On a sphere, “uphill” would be up from the surface of the sphere. Not north or south or east or west. “Uphill” is greater distance from the center.

          The same inertia (“centrifugal force”) that produces the equatorial bulge also lifts rivers and currents and winds “uphill” as they flow toward the equator.

          5. Curvature is 7.98 inches per mile times the square of the DISTANCE.

          And as I’ve pointed out elsewhere, the formula doesn’t work in the real world. If you go from the North Pole to the Equator, the difference between actual drop and that given by the formula is over 900 miles. That’s a lot of difference to account for.

          This is because there is no such thing as a three dimensional sphere, in the real world. You live in 4 dimensional space, on a 4 dimensional sphere. The surface of a 4 dimensional object is 3 dimensional.

          6. Why not fly over the South Pole? Ah, I would guess: (a) greater radiation, from cosmic rays and solar energy. (b) worse weather (c) less help if you’re in trouble.

          • maxwell

            …lifIs…I love reading your stuff…thank you.

          • 2QIK4U

            5 Dimensions if you believe in ascension, we are supposed to have ascended into 4th now but i am talking OUT of topic. When in Antarctica i flew TO the base the first time. I saw mountain alps everywhere but NO wall? How or where did you figure out 900 miles? I do agree about your wobbly egg type axis spin completely, If we were a perfect ball i’d be worried cos NOTHING is Perfect. Nice post Lifels

          • 2QIK4U

            Hang on Lifel’s all of my robots work in 3 dimensions and A MARBLE IS A 3 DIMENSIONAL SPHERE ! and the surface of a 4 Dimensional object IS NOT 3 DIMENSIONAL because a SOLID HAS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE STRUCTURE TO BE 4 Dimensional. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY AND HOW YOU’VE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION PLEASE FOR THE SLOW ONES. ME AT THE MOMENT. Astrophysics do not work like you say. With respect because i’m tired i admit i might no be remembering something i should be right at this minute. Astrophysics love all dimensions especially 4th 5th and 6th which was discovered as theorum but CERN would have mastered it by now.

            • LifeIs

              2QIK4U the LHC at CERN is nothing but a particle accelerator and a lot of hype.

              And no, a solid does not have to “change structure to be 4 dimensional.”

              It goes like this:

              1. An object of n dimensions is bounded by surfaces of (n minus 1) dimensions.

              A 2-D plane is bounded by lines, a 3-D cube is bounded by two- dimensional planes, and so on.

              The surface of a 3-D sphere would be 2-dimensional. There would be north, south, east, west, but no UP and no DOWN. No ocean waves, no mountains. It would be Flatland.

              The surface of a real-world sphere is 3-dimensional. There is up and down to it. Therefore, it is a 4-dimensional object.

              2. When you penetrate an object of n dimensions, you must make a hole of (n minus 1) dimensions.

              To penetrate a 3-dimensional object, you must make a 2-dimensional hole. Like a nail hole.

              When you penetrate a 4-dimensional sphere, you must make a 3-dimensional hole.

              This is why impact craters are circular, regardless of the angle of impact.

              This is why there is a circular pattern of ripples, when you throw a rock into a pond, at any angle, or skip a rock across the pond.

              The force of the penetration has magnitude, but no direction. You are making a 3-dimensional hole.

              3. We see in the auroras, sheets, rippling sheets of glowing particles. Three-dimensional structure to a flow of energy.

              4. And like I said, the formula for the curvature of the Earth does not work.

              7.98 inches of linear curvature per mile… multiplied by distance squared (because the Earth is falling away from you in two directions.)

              And going from the North Pole to the Equator, there’s more than 900 miles difference, between the drop given by the formula, and the actual drop.

              5. Time has direction. We measure it by a flow of energy through a clock. Time is not a dimension.

              Time is just the way energy weakens with distance. In 4 dimensional space.

            • LifeIs

              6. A particle is a 3-dimensional slice of a 4-dimensional wave.

              There is no quantum tunneling. There is a 4 dimensional wave flowing around a 3-dimensional barrier.

              There are no “force-carrying particles” and no “virtual particles.” Just a 4-dimensional field.

          • RoGiC

            Sorry for the delayed response, I have a job too.

            Lifels, you are obviously a very educated person and I am not, I don’t have a beautifully framed piece of paper on my wall but what I lack in student loan debt, I have gained in real life experience. My observations are mine, they are only observations and not unproven theories that we were taught since pre-K.

            Your answers to these questions do not satisfy the observations I have made with my 5 senses. Please tell me what you have observed and not what you were taught in theory.

            (1&2) If the stars are all moving around the galactic center (which galaxy, aren’t some of these stars galaxies in and of themselves?) then why are they revolving around the Earth. I would say that they are revolving around Polaris but since it is also moving in a circle above our north pole then they must be revolving around us. Again, we only observe the 1000mph rotation of the Earth and not the 66,667mph that we are apparently traveling around the sun or the sun’s 483,000mph around the galactic center.

            (3) Really? How can our clocks work if this is true? We measure days by when the sun is overhead and years by the amount of time it takes to travel around the sun but yet there’s no synchronicity? The Earth’s supposed rotation is 24 hours a day but we are losing 6 hours a year because of the extra rotation needed to actually put the sun at high noon everyday, our solution is to add February 29th every 4 years. But why don’t we observe this 6 hour loss every year? After the first year the sun should be directly overheard at 6pm, midnight after 2 years and 6am after 3.

            (4) Why does the Nile ignore this and flow away from the equator and why hasn’t anyone see the bulge?

            (5) I agree, when you consider a polar radius of 3,950 miles and an equatorial radius of 3,963.2 then you actually need closer to 16″ per mile squared to make this equation work, if you left the north pole heading towards the equator you would be almost 2,000 miles above the equator at 8″/mile sq according to my calculations, not 900. I’m a simpleton so I used geometry to figure this out.

            (6) These issues don’t seem to keep us from flying over the north pole, at least there’s a land mass in Antarctica to land on whereas if any of these problems were to occur over the north pole then they have to put it in the drink.

            -RoGiC

    • NewsPaperBoy

      Very fun at all but why can nobody explain why the horizon stays on eye-level no matter how high you fly. If you stand on a ball you are always on the highest point so if you go up the horizon goes down… but that is not the case…. I asked a pilot before I had my flight last week if he could explain it…and he said he would think about it during the flight.
      At the end of the flight I stayed a bit longer in the plane to ask him is answer and he said “Funny you asked the question because I never thought about it but you are right the horizon must go down on a ball”
      So he said ” Perhaps because we cannot look that far….or the light is bending”…he asked another pilot and laughed it off not even thinking about it. But he said…well je gave me something to think about because indeed when you go up the horizon must go down. It can be that you are not on the highest point because of mountains, but above 4 km you can say that the question in nonsense he said… We perhaps never see each other again….but it also stays in my mind and i still did not have a normal answer. :neutral: Sure lot of jokes and and people telling me if I have nothing better to do, but somebody planted this seed in me by asking me the same damn thing…… I do not know if the earth is flat or a ball and I always thought it was, but I cannot dismiss this just like that it keeps nagging me

      • DistantCousin

        Do You Understand Ship Navigation???
        Do You Understand That No Map Exists
        of a Flat Earth that can be used for Navigation???
        Do You Understand Ships land at different Ports
        around the World every second? And Not one has
        a mapping system that can be correlated to a Flat
        Earth Map???
        Ship’s Captains and Navigators do what they have to
        do. That Means Using Maps with Distances Taken
        from a Sphere. When They are Flat Paper Charts,
        It is done with Map Projection systems.

        The Failures in South Africa, Argentina-Chile-Pattagonia and Australia
        are Roughly 180% East West between Navigational Aids that are used
        daily, and the “BEST GUESTIMATIONS” Possible from pathetic Flat
        Earth Sources.
        Get Measuring.
        (Or much more Fun, Get Sailing!!!)

        RR :shock:
        Vive la révolution de la sphère tournante

        • Mongoose

          Strange that many cultures navigated the oceans before there was ever even a thought of the possibility of the earth being a globe. I guess they just got lucky.

          Columbus believed the earth to be a globe and he got lost. He thought north america was India.

          Pretty much forever before the age of technology people used the sky to navigate, sun, moon and stars so your arguments are really pointless.

          They observed where they were, what time it is and what the sky looked like and mapped out the earth accordingly, of course it is not quite as simple as that but that is it in a nutshell.

          You make baseless assertions and present them as fact with nothing solid to back any of it up. Your job is to sound like you know what you are talking about in order to console those whose confirmation bias will cause them to always believe statements in support of their preconceived notions and long held beliefs.

          You are like a televangelist. You are only believable to those who already believe and refuse to consider anything else as a possibility.

          • DistantCousin

            Baseless Assertions Pretzel Logick From a Mongoose?
            My Assertion are that No Dimensions (East-West “‘Outside” of
            the Equator) on the Map Put Forward By those Believing
            in The Flat Earth Correlate With any Measurable Point In
            Reality.
            You Compare me to a Televangelist, which I take as an
            Insult comparable to “Truth Loving Soul” Telling Me To
            “Get Off Of My Lazy Ass”
            (If You Are Not One In The Same)
            You Come Forward With Not One Fact, And Accuse Me
            of Nothing “Solid to Back it Up”.
            Learn To Read. Prove Me Wrong. Period.
            You Will Have an Apology. I can Easily Believe there
            is a 5% Error in What I have Written, but not distances
            that are DOUBLED!!!!
            I Say That You Need To Watch Your Step, As Your
            Comments Truly Come Out As Someone Trained In
            Misdirection. If Someone is Curious whether it is a
            Conspiracy Or Not, I Would Suggest They Start With
            Disciplined Critical Analysis of You Rebuttal Technique.

            I Do Not Want To Believe It Is Conspiracy,
            But I Am Being Forced To Believe.
            RR :cool:

            • Mongoose

              You just repeat official numbers and give nothing that you have personally verified.

              Now you accuse me of being someone else and say that I am trained in misdirection.

              Get real.

              I have provided many provable observable facts many times and that is why I am so rude to you shills.

              Here are some links that I have posted many times as well as the basic info that they contain.

              /science-and-technology/2016/07/flat-earth-or-globe-observation-from-the-arctic-circle-2839299.html

              /alternative/2016/04/to-those-who-claim-that-flat-earth-is-a-psy-op-3340289.html

              /religion/2016/04/the-bible-2505784.html

              /conspiracy-theories/2016/02/false-flat-earth-arguments-that-should-be-avoided-2473966.html

              /science-and-technology/2016/03/this-is-what-convinced-me-that-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-globe-is-bunk-2814558.html

              You ignore all of the personally verifiable evidence and basic physics presented and then on the next “article” claim that non has ever been presented.

              Your math might be correct, I don’t know. I don’t waste my time attempting to make calculations with numbers that I haven’t verified for myself.

              What I do know is that math is only as good as the accuracy of the numbers that are entered in to the equations.

              If you put garbage in you get garbage out.

              I do have one other abandoned account on this site that I have not used since I made the new Mongoose account and that was GoodBees.

              I am not into drinking urine.

            • DistantCousin

              You Say Garbage In Garbage Out,
              I Repeat Official Numbers
              I had my own sailboat on Puget Sound
              Granted, You don’t Learn whether the
              Earth is Flat or Not. But You learn
              About Charts, and you Own Them Yourself.
              When your love is engineering, you learn
              that with hull construction, you have max.
              speeds that hull designs are capable of,
              meaning that there are limits of distances
              that can be covered in a given time.
              Loving History, I had the speed limitations
              of the ships used in the Slaving era in my head.
              I applied them to the routes between Angola(?)
              and Brazil in the 1600s, and found that with
              the distances on the Gleason map, nearly all
              of the Slaves would be delivered Dead. No
              Profit There. I checked the Freight Route
              Delivery times in the Southern Hemisphere,
              (And Yes The Freight is Delivered, On Time,
              as it must be to make a Profit.) I found
              that with Hull Speed Limitations and fuel
              consumption Problems, that such delivery
              Schedules were Impossible on the Gleason
              Map.
              I started looking Closer at the Gleason Map,
              And was left Scratching My Head to see
              That the Equator and the Latitudinal Degree
              Markings were Left in Place. Gigantic Fail.
              You Show Me How To Mark Degree Lines
              Equidistant on a Plane Surface.

              I Know You Well Enough. You Will NOW
              RETURN and Say That I Have Not Studied
              ANYTHING AND HAVE ONLY PARROTED
              OFFICIAL NUMBERS.
              I HAVE FLOWN THE GREAT CIRCLE ROUTE
              OVER SOUTHERN GREENLAND ON A
              CLOUDLESS DAY AS WELL – - TWICE.

              I HAVE SAT ON BALLYHOO MOUNTAIN, WITH
              MY FEET HANGING OVER A 500 FOOT CLIFF,
              LOOKING OUT OVER THE BERING SEA,

              I HAVE LIVED A TINY BIT,
              (AND THIS IS JUST A TINY PORTION)

              NOW FLAT EARTHERS, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

              WHERE ARE THE FLAT EARTH SHIP CAPTAINS!
              THE FLAT EARTH FREQUENT FLYERS ON THE
              CONCORDE?
              THE B52 PILOTS FROM STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND?
              SHOW ME A REAL GERMAN ENGINEER AND HIS
              EMAIL, AND I WILL SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH HIM.
              (ABER NICHT EIN VERBLÖDELTE DEPP WIE IN YOUTUBE!)

              YES MONGOOSE – - – WHAT HAVE YOU PERSONALLY
              VERIFIED – - – ON YOUTUBE? WITH PHOTOSHOP?

              WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR LIFE?
              YOU WOULD HAVE BETTER OFF HAVING A HEINIKIN
              WITH THE CREW OF THE NORTH COMMAND OR THE
              THERESA MARIE!!!

              AND I LOVE THE LOUVRE, AND THE PRADO, I HAVE
              WANDERED THROUGH LONDON, PARIS, PRAGUE,
              FLORENCE, PISA AND JERUSALEM.

              AND YOU?
              IT IS REALLY QUITE EASY TO HAVE DONE 10 TIMES
              MORE THAN ME. I’M SURE YOU HAVE.

              PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT ALL THAT YOU HAVE
              PERSONALLY DONE AND PERSONALLY VERIFIED.

              Bitte zeigen Sie als etwas BESSER als ein Depp.

              RR :mad:

            • The Real Deal

              Does this site pay you to be the troll you are, bozo the clown, or you just stupid? Don’t answer that, it was a rhetorical question. We all know the answer.

            • Mongoose

              So, you have no reply to any of my points accept to have me believe that you once owned a boat and now spend all of your time trolling the internet.

              Just like I am supposed to believe that 2quk4u is a private contractor who works in Antarctica who also spends all of his time trolling the internet.

              It is just as I have stated. You ignore everything presented and then on our next encounter you will claim that nothing was ever presented, just like sicko, jacko, deano, 2quik4u and every other shill/troll on this site.

              This is why I don’t even bother with you much anymore. You are disingenuous. I am not going to continue to debate with fake personas who lie and feign ignorance at every turn.

              I am a real persona with a real life and better things to do.

            • DistantCousin

              Mongoose
              You say it is disingenuous,

              Like Most All Stupid Factory Workers in
              Germany, I get 5 weeks of paid Vacation a Year.

              I’ve had little extra money over the last few Years,
              Last year, only a few days in Salzburg with the
              family and a Chinese Engineer from the Company,

              A few Years Ago took Ryan Air from Nürnberg to
              Pisa – Twice.

              In a few Days I fly to Barcelona for a Week.

              Stick a neutral address that won’t effect your
              anonymity, And I will Do My Very Best To Send
              You A Postcard.
              Emails can be so impersonal!

              No Joke You Talk Trash,
              But you do it quite Well
              (That’s a Compliment.)
              RR :lol:

          • TuffENuff

            Actually, Columbus knew the earth was flat, he had ancient Chinese navigational maps with him on his voyages, he knew exactly where he was. The whole “I thought it was India, dude,” was a hoax used by the church to prove the earth is a globe. This is all covered in detail in two books entitled 1491 and 1493 written by Charles C. Mann.

            • Mongoose

              Thanx for the info. I have heard so many versions of the story that I really don’t know what the truth is.

              At least I know that I don’t know. That is always a good start.

          • DistantCousin

            Mongoose
            This is an Answer to one of Your Comments (Somewhere)
            You Say I didn’t Answer Your Question.
            I Said I can Prove the World is not Flat.
            But That Will Never Happen With These Thought Processes
            Exhibited Here.
            I Say I can Prove The Circumference of the Earth in the
            Area of Australia is at least roughly the Size of the Equator.

            AND THAT YOU WILL NOT ANSWER!!!
            PROVE THAT AUSTRALIA IS AT LEAST 4,800 MILES EAST-WEST!

            I ASK YOU AGAIN
            WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR LIFE?

            I CORRECTLY ACCUSED YOU OF USING PRETZEL LOGICK,
            I DARE YOU – - PROVE THE GLEASON MAP ACCURATE!

            Tell Me About Life Mongoose!
            RR :mad:

        • TRUTHY1

          O.K. Mr nautical math wiz, explain how your sphere math can allow a person to see over the curvature past the horizon by nearly 1000 feet ! https://aplanetruth.info/2015/03/29/22-is-the-earth-a-sphere-lighthouses-and-distant-lands/ How far is the horizon in your calculations ? http://www.jupiterlighthouse.org/pdf/LHFacts.pdf Don’t try to play the bending light fallacy either,the same thing occurs over land.

          • DistantCousin

            I won’t Touch It For One Reason,
            I Have Not Studied It Well Enough to Answer Correctly.
            Like I Said about a Week Ago, I do Not Have to Prove
            100 Things. I Only Have to Prove One. I Will Move on
            to Other Things, But Not Yet.

            (How many Torpedoes do you Need to Disable a Ship?)

            And As I have Said Before, That is Based In Engineering.
            What I Can Prove, Is That The Dimensions (east west)in
            the Outer Ring that Spherical Believers call the Southern
            Hemisphere are Totally Incorrect, and Match an Azimuthal
            Equidistant North Polar Projection of a Sphere. The
            Dimensions Do NOT Match the Measurable Land Mass and
            Ocean Distances which are in Travel and Transport on a
            Daily Basis.

            I Can Prove The Diameter of The Flat Earth is a Smaller
            Diameter at Australia, than it is At The Equator.

            And That Makes The Flat Earth A Truly Peculiar Place
            Indeed!

            As we are talking about Navigation, Should I say – - -

            But Whatever Floats Your Boat!!!
            RR :cool:

            I Ask You, What is 10,000 KM. Outwards form
            The Equator??? What is the Name of the
            Man that Measured the Distance from the
            Equator to This WHAT, So that they would
            know to make the Equator Roughly 10,000 KM.
            From the North Pole???

            • Anonymous

              You don’t need to study anything and you don’t need math. All you need are your own two eyes and half a brain. Go to a large body of water where you can see miles down the shoreline. Take a tripod telescope or good binoculars. If you can see something on the shoreline even 5 miles away, then you know you are not living on a ball. If you even have that half a brain, you will be enlightened.

          • 2QIK4U

            The Earth has way more mass than everybody thinks. Compared to our Vision the Globe is one Fat mother. I personally believe it is bigger than generally accepted and We all at least agree on one thing. NAZA is NEVER to be fully believed or Trusted. BUT if WE shot a laser to A KNOWN point it isn’t difficult to reverse engineer the calculation along with the TRUE mass of earth. Ignoring Hollow earth if it exists and why wouldn’t it? Weve all seen the poles entrance from RUSSIAN space. :mrgreen:

          • 2QIK4U

            Because it gradually drop’s away the same as ANY ball ! Isn’t hard to figure :eek:

        • Alan Schuetz

          “It seemed a flat disk with upturned edge.” — Auguste Piccard in the August 1931 issue of “Popular Science”

          http://m.imgur.com/gallery/miXLb

          I have a copy of both the Gleason map and the original “Popular Science” issue cited. Even the U.N. flag hides the truth in “plane” sight! sic lol

        • NewsPaperBoy

          This are the reactions I mean…. you rattle about a lot but you also cannot explain to me why the horizon stays on eye level…it is exactly what I mean with people just talk talk talk but do not answer the question. They just like to hear them self speak
          :eek:

          • Jack Shlitz

            NewsPaperBoy….ask a geometry teacher. Just don’t ask him to teach you how to fly a plane…okay?

            • NewsPaperBoy

              Again not a normal answer …. I do not say the earth is flat I just want a normal answer on something I see with my own two eyes and I only get stupid answers. Or normal answers from stupid people!

            • Jack Shlitz

              NewspaperBoy, in all seriousness, there is a mathematical answer to your question and your average 10th grade math teacher can answer it. Find a scholastic Blog or something reword your question so you don’t sound like a nut case and ask it there. You’ll get a far more clear answer over asking a bunch of bone heads at BIN. Their rationale is to roll the bones, read frog entrails, or argue bubble gum logistics and no argument or explanation whatsoever will ever satisfy them. Asking a rational question of some chuckle head who sites the Bible as proof that the earth is flat is an invitation to the dumbest recesses of infantile imagination. Think for yourself and don’t buy into this
              Bu ll Sh!t. If it looks & smells like crvp than it usually is crvp. In this world There’s too many captains steering us wrong. Pilot your own boat.

      • TRUTHY1

        Proverbs 25:2King James Version (KJV)

        2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
        2 Timothy 4:3-5King James Version (KJV)

        3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

        4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

        • DistantCousin

          180% Mathematical Failure is a Sign of Sound Doctrine?
          Not Enduring Sound Doctrine seems to be defining your
          position quite well.

          Wisdom and Knowledge seem to be something you Abhor.

          I believe with correct definition and understanding,
          the Bible Correlates to the Facts that Surround Us.
          When Someone uses Lies and Fantasy to Defend the Bible,
          Something is definitely Wrong, and with that statement,
          I am defending the Bible.

          I would tend to believe that lies and misrepresentation start
          with your commenter Name, TRUTHY1. Sadly it does not
          end there.

          RR :cool:
          (Would You Be Willing To Say, Christians Should Not Be
          Ships Captains or Navigators, because Doing So Would
          Lead Them Into Sin By Using Spherical Planet Navigation
          Aids)

          • TRUTHY1

            Provide proof loudmouth. You can attack me personally all you want but you cannot avoid the truth. Flat Earth is directly from Scriptures not the doctrines of man like the globe Earth.

            • Syco247

              Yeah the same scriptures that say some of the most asinine contradictory things ever to be committed to paper.

            • DistantCousin

              No Problem
              I said a 180% failure in the distances at the latitudes
              on Australia.
              Here is the Reprint Below
              I am aware, for some sorts of Christians, Mathematics and
              distances are not considered acceptable methods of
              Verification.

              Jango, about a Week ago you posted the following quote
              which I have reprinted below.
              Not Having yet read your “Peanut Butter Theology”, I was
              Floored by your Absolutely non-factual reaction. Taken
              in context, and grouping your responses together, I would
              have to view them as “Poisoned Water Flowing From A
              Poisoned Well”
              (For Other Readerss, Read Patiently the Comment Below, which
              was Jango’s answer to huge discrepancies in the Gleason
              ACCEPTED Flat Earth Map when compared to freight routes and
              distances on existing, accurate road maps.)

              “The distances you mentioned are all taken from a flat earth map. Whether you take flight distance, sea distance, or longitude distance, they are all calculated on a flat earth map. Simple reason….we don’t live on a round spinning globe. That is impossible for 200+ reasons. You probably never took the time to look it up. All you do is spew hot air, and even when confronted with facts you deny them. It is impossible to reason with you.”

              :arrow: Please Folks, be patient, and bear with me.
              DISTANCES Brisbane To Perth Australia. (East West, Coast to Coast)

              Accepted Shortest distance. – – 3,613 KM. 2,245 Miles
              Distance by Road – – 4,309 Km 2,671 Miles

              Gleason Map (Scaled 2 x distance Seattle to New York,
              Possibly – – 7,754 KM 4,810 Miles
              (In the same way that NASA is Criticized about Photo Quality,
              I believe the Gleason Map is Chosen to make Accuracy Nearly Impossible”)

              Using A Formula using a Trigonometry Oblique Triangle Formula, using
              Longitudinal degrees between two locations, Plus the distances from the North Pole,
              To Each Location.
              “Since the Earth Is supposed to be FLAT, this Triangular formula should give EXACT
              Distance between two points without any Failure. I Am Open To Criticism from
              Real Mathemeticians.)

              With Triangulation Formula, 8,421 Km – – 5,229 Miles
              (These numbers “Honestly” bear a striking resemblance to the Gleason numbers.)

              I find this all quite interesting, and this is most interesting if you are driving a
              car Brisbane (or Sydney) to Perth, Taking a Plane Brisbane to Perth,
              Or Attempting to Circumnavigate Austrailia. (The Difference “Failure” being
              “Roughly 70%”.

              Please take Jango’s attitude in this context. If You have to Accomplish Nothing
              Physical in Your Life, Embracing the Flat Earth Might Be For You!!!!!!
              If You are Employed in the Southern “Hemisphere” in the Transportation Sector,
              Embracing Belief in the Flat Earth Will Most Likely Lead to Your Termination.
              (As You Would Be Uninsurable)

              I Strongly Suggest that Jango and the Flat Earth Believers Take A Pilgrimage.
              “PLEASE TAKE A LONG EAST-WEST WALK ON A SHORT AUSTRALIA.”

              Are You an example of what was pointed out in the article as an
              Agent to split Christianity with Misinformation, Lies and Pure
              Idiocy, or are you truly posting with earnest Zeal?

              I will not Run and Hide, It will take a while to Formulate
              some Answers, but ask Syco I come back, and each time with
              more and more complete information and strengtened Accuracy.

              A defence of Fallacies is not a Ground Tenet of Christianity.
              Educate Yourself.

              I can speak facts with quiet self control, No Loudmouth Here.
              RR :cool:
              !!!Vive La Révolution Sphérique!!!!

        • Jack Shlitz

          And didn’t you know, rain drops are actually liquid sunshine???

      • Black Humor

        UNDENIABLE PROOF! All flat earthers are Saudi missionarys:
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gGoYvWYAACQSe.jpg
        :cool:

      • FACTCHECK

        Don’t lie. It does move. What the hell are you talking about? The higher you go in a plane the lower the horizon drops.

      • Mongoose

        There is really no point in rehashing this over and over. The people who want to know the truth and are capable of discerning reality will seek it out and understand.

        For now the clear obsession of some of the shills is speaking louder for the case of the earth being flat than anything else ever could. The seem to be able to make everything about the flat earth.

        It’s like flat earth is all they can think about and when they close their eyes at night the flat earth is all they can see. Perhaps an obsession brought on by unresolved cognitive dissonance or perhaps just a fat paycheck.

        Either way with every erroneous conclusion, strawman, logical fallacy and insult they are only serving to demonstrate how much some people want to discredit even the thought of this.

        If it were really so ridiculous and easily disproven it would have been scoffed at for a moment and then dropped and ignored instead of a troll army being created to harass and attack the very mention or or thought of it.

        After all, unless a person was getting paid to make these same comments and attacks over and over again they would have to be crazy to continue to do so. A true text book example of either obsession or trolling.

        The information is out for anyone who wants to look at it and the shear amount of disinfo and stupid pro flat earth arguments being spread is also further proof that there is a large and ongoing effort to keep this under wraps.

        • DistantCousin

          If It wasn’t used to run a wedge in Christianity,
          and get Christians to ignore fact as a base tenet
          of their belief,
          I would ignore it the same as I do the Hollow
          Earthers or the people saying Aliens will Save Us!

          R.

          • Mongoose

            It is about ignoring speculation and indoctrination and focusing only on provable observable fact and has nothing to do with Christianity except to Christians. To them everything is about Christianity.

            The same can be said of all religions and why do you care anyways? There have been and still are much larger wedges in Christianity than the shape of the earth.

            What are there 200 denominations now? Who cares?

            In order to be religious at all you have to ignore fact as a base tenet of belief, that is why it is a belief and not a known fact. That is the whole premise of Christianity, belief, not provable fact.

            • 2QIK4U

              It’s really about I can’t believe so many are so gullible and easily led so as not to LEARN REALITY

            • DistantCousin

              Then Why Are Jango and Veil,
              Ramming This Wedge So Hard??

              Is The Wage By The Hour Or The Month?

              R.

            • FAT AXL!!!

              “Is The Wage By The Hour Or The Month?”

              It’s by the convert. So, even after all their hard work, Jango and Veil/TruthHatingSoul are batting zero and actually OWE the government money.

            • Mongoose

              “Then Why Are Jango and Veil,
              Ramming This Wedge So Hard??”

              I don’t know what their motives are and I really don’t care. I don’t see them as purposefully driving a wedge, I see them as stating what they believe and I don’t agree with everything that they say but so what.

              I used to be a Christian so I understand the mentality and the bible and every other ancient text make it clear that the earth is flat. They are just calling it like they see it as far as I can tell but I am not them and they are not me.

              I just call it like I see it and what I see is flat.

              You and many others religiously believe the earth is a globe and you are using your religious beliefs to drive a wedge no more or less than they are.

          • TuffENuff

            FE has nothing to do with Christianity. Christians ignore fact constantly because they rely on one book for all their knowledge.

        • 2QIK4U

          Mongoose I’ve had to answer your earlier statement here. Good memory recall. And YES i have been to Antarctica twice. I don’t bloody live there though. First time I helped my Dad lay a ton of piping in the ice to build the second encampment and have adequate water and heating. Was there about 6 weeks. Second time Was to speed up my mechanical engineering apprenticeship, i knocked 1 year off for doing 3 month’s 24 hr on call. 2 of us to maintain all machinery. Currently I slack off by CNC operating MAZAK LASERS, TRUMPF LASERS, 2 robot welders and a 2 million dollar mill. I program for about 2 hrs in the morning then STAND there for half a day making sure NO robot or myself has screwed the programming and if i just abused you always YES i would be a Troll BUT in this Case Mongoose you are the Troll as I haven’t said anything BS about you like you did above. SATISFIED ? Now excuse me while i roll to work and Then Relax to find some photo’s of Dick Smith for Tuffenuff here. And what i keep laughing at myself about here is the Fact half of my links stuff up because i’m on a PS4 ! They aren’t exactly a Lappy (Laptop) So what do you do other than Scream Flat Earth? :eek:

          • 2QIK4U

            Do you Understand What CNC means? It’s some magical technology you lot say shouldnt exist LOL :mrgreen: It stands for COMPUTER NUMERICAL CONTROL. X,Y,Z axis and X,Y neatly blue lead all 5 robot’s So my labor each FULL work day is 3-4 hours collecting the Fabrications after Process. SEE ! NOW I’M BEING A BIT OF A TROLL. :lol:

            • 2QIK4U

              I am far from a Computer expert though and don’t claim to be. I made the BOMB BLAST DOORS for The Australian Embasy in CHINA though and I can make Anything. Any Ting you want.

            • 2QIK4U

              I Can MAKE a laser shoot across an Ocean too ! :wink:

      • Jack Shlitz

        Don’t ask a pilot. Go ask a geometry teacher. Just ask basically the same question & ask him to explain the meaning of “parallax”. Finally, please, please, please do not give the FE theory any serious consideration. It’s a false religion insofar as you have to except major premises on faith and it starts out with a preset group of assumptions. That is “truth” or “faith” call it what you want but it is not empirical. It’s “entertaining” to listen to these squawkers but ultimately we have to be adults about it.

      • Jack Shlitz

        Sounds like a truly lonely life. All that BS (below) and then this idiotic diatribe about FE nonsense…GTFU

        “…..I HAVE SAT ON BALLYHOO MOUNTAIN, WITH
        MY FEET HANGING OVER A 500 FOOT CLIFF,
        LOOKING OUT OVER THE BERING SEA,

        I HAVE LIVED A TINY BIT,
        (AND THIS IS JUST A TINY PORTION)

        NOW FLAT EARTHERS, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

        WHERE ARE THE FLAT EARTH SHIP CAPTAINS!
        THE FLAT EARTH FREQUENT FLYERS ON THE
        CONCORDE?
        THE B52 PILOTS FROM STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND?
        SHOW ME A REAL GERMAN ENGINEER AND HIS
        EMAIL, AND I WILL SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH HIM.
        (ABER NICHT EIN VERBLÖDELTE DEPP WIE IN YOUTUBE!)

        YES MONGOOSE – – – WHAT HAVE YOU PERSONALLY
        VERIFIED – – – ON YOUTUBE? WITH PHOTOSHOP?

        WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR LIFE?
        YOU WOULD HAVE BETTER OFF HAVING A HEINIKIN
        WITH THE CREW OF THE NORTH COMMAND OR THE
        THERESA MARIE!!!

        AND I LOVE THE LOUVRE, AND THE PRADO, I HAVE
        WANDERED THROUGH LONDON, PARIS, PRAGUE,
        FLORENCE, PISA AND JERUSALEM.

        AND YOU?
        IT IS REALLY QUITE EASY TO HAVE DONE 10 TIMES
        MORE THAN ME. I’M SURE YOU HAVE.

        PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT ALL THAT YOU HAVE
        PERSONALLY DONE AND PERSONALLY VERIFIED….”

      • Real Expert

        Newspaperboy, this guy does a great job in explaining why
        it appears that the horizon does not drop, aside from your
        thinking the earth is much smaller than it really is.
        There are six episodes in this series, please watch
        all six. Here is the link to the first one.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAm2cagpsnk

    • Anonymous

      The globe was the original psy op created by the freemason’s. Flat Earth debate has been going on for a long time, this article is disingenuous.

      • Syco247

        You if you think this is a flat plane of some sort then you are highly impeded on a cognitive level that might be a genuine medical mystery.

        • Anonymous

          Hey shill girl go away and stop trying it aint working.

          • Syco247

            You do know what the word shill means right? Because you guys toss that word around a lot, I am pretty sure it does not mean what you think it means.

            noun
            1.
            an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
            verb
            1.
            act or work as a shill.

            • Mongoose

              Even your definitions are phony.

              Here is what websters has to say about it:

              1 shill play
              intransitive verb ˈshil
              Popularity: Bottom 50% of words
              Simple Definition of shill

              : to talk about or describe someone or something in a favorable way because you are being paid to do it

              Source: Merriam-Webster’s Learner’s Dictionary

            • Syco247

              Umm hey sparky, my definition is actually saying the same thing, just articulately. (means to not sound like you have a head wound and mouth full of peanut butter)

            • Mongoose

              Who is sparky?

              Your definition is lacking the mention of pay. I guess you don’t want to disclose your income.

              I don’t know why you think Websters has a head wound or is eating peanut butter. A dictionary can do neither of those things.

              You are not very coherent. Better be careful, I think even shills can get fired for smoking rocks on the job.

            • FAT AXL!!!

              Rock, singular, Mongoose. Smoking rock.

              If you want to be one of the cool kids, you have to brush up on your illicit substance nomenclature.

            • Mongoose

              From what I’ve been told it is impossible to smoke only one.

        • TRUTHY1

          Speaking of being highly impeded on a cognitive “level” ! If you were to deduce from the environment exactly what is seen and exists you would realize that your skewed view is not provable as the lack of any evidence in these comments proves it is all lip service for a myth and false belief. When planes reach altitude they fly “level” with no nosing down to correct for the supposed curvature and directly below them ships ply the waters at Sea “level”. Obvious, yet confounding, to the easily misled and hard headed deniers. Nobody has given one single proof of a globe,nor can they,their facade has crumbled in the face of the Truth. The 500 year old lie has fallen ! Your namesake fits well for you on this subject !

      • DistantCousin

        GO Sail a Ship,
        Tell Me The Results
        How can the Flat Earth Folks be So Emasculated – - -
        That they have created no Navigational Aids in
        over 100 Years and more of their existence.

        (This odd comment left me thinking,
        Is it for the fact of the Flat Earthers Being Emasculated,
        That there has not been one reported case of “Navigational
        Aids” among Flat Earth Believers???)

        Just a Theory – -
        RR :cool:

        • YellowRoseTx51

          :lol:

    • Syco247

      Pissed off flat brainers in the 3… 2… 1… ohh already missed one, @NewsPaperBoy

      This is why, and as simple an explanation as I could find,
      http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/139348/why-does-the-sea-horizon-line-always-seems-to-be-at-the-same-height-as-ones-eye

      Now stop asking stupid questions.

    • Sensor

      Cass Sunstein! That stupid head is flat, flat hat you dream! Fool! Leave the closed class? :lol:

    • Anonymous

      So, I saw this on one of those flat earth videos:

      I placed two identical empty 4″ cube boxes and set them on a board on the ground. One was in direct full moonlight, the other was in shade. I then waited an hour. Then I took the temp of each.

      Curiously the one in the direct moonlight was 1.5 degrees cooler than the one in the shade.

      Did this three months in a row. Same thing every time.

      I thought that reflected sunshine was warm?

      • MILLENNIUM Reporter

        According to the ancient Indian system of healing known as Ayurveda, the Moonlight is known to be cooling.

        Here’s a good reference:

        “The cooling benefits of bathing in moonlight”
        http://radiant-living.net/the-moon-as-healing-modality-according-to-ayurveda/

        And your controlled experiment seems to validate that.

        Thanks for posting the comment!
        TMR

        • TuffENuff

          I was inclined to believe the FET was indeed a psyop, until I saw this article and noted the condescending, patronizing tone. Since your so-called news blog is a known psyop site, now I’m convinced FET is real.

          Conspiracy theorists only look like kooks to the controllers and the sleeping, bleating sheep who believe them. It’s all the agenda-driven agencies, governments, religions and control freak weirdos who are the insane ones.

          No, we have not been neutralized, the plan failed. Thanks for playing.

          • Syco247

            It is hard not to be condescending to complete idiots who for the lack of all manor of sense could for a second buy that we live on disc under a cake dish put there buy a magical elf in the sky.

            • Syco247

              Ohh goody down votes! Now my day is complete! Weep before my joy myth worshiping cave dwellers!

            • TuffENuff

              You’re consistently condescending to everyone about everything, so that proves nothing. Fail.

          • 2QIK4U

            Repeat the same conversation to a child every day of the year trying to teach an unripe mind and tell me how happy you’d be. I offer to prove FE right and NOT ONE person in 2 years can even take that offer of VALIDATION. That’s how i KNOW FE is a CROCK OF S### If i offered to prove you right you or any “Normal” person would take the chance not Sabotage it ! 100% Psyop

            • Syco247

              2QIK4U gets it, I know this is conspiracy site and all but there logically has to be a limit. FE is just was past that limit, I would sooner buy aliens taking Hoffa home to get married to Elvis so they could live under ground in Aghartha. Because YES even THAT makes more sense that that BS FE twaddle.

    • RAINSCRYPT

      The BIN shelf life for most articles is rather short, so when this one drops out of sight please post it again.

      and then post it yet again.

      Thank you.

    • StephenBlake

      It’s flat. Sorry bud.

      • FAT AXL!!!

        Well sheeeeeeee-it.

        That settles it then.

        • DistantCousin

          Howdy-Doody TCB!

          Hope You Are Havin’ a Good One!

          RR :lol:

          • FAT AXL!!!

            Takin Care o Bidness.

            Per usual.

            Don’t take any guff from these hoopleheads.

    • DistantCousin

      While Such an Unstructured, Unplanned Event is highly Improbable
      (Or Impossible) when Residing on a Spherical rotating Planet,
      It has been reported as being statistically Extremely Probable,
      “When Living On The Flat Earth Plane”

      RR :roll:
      (Research on this Phenomenon will be included in an upcoming
      Flat Earth YouTube Video) Stay Tuned!

      • DistantCousin

        I printed this as a goofy answer to a goofy comment,
        And then the comment just Vanished!!!!

        Pfoof!!!
        RR

        • RAINSCRYPT

          I heard that Ryan Lochte says the earth is flat.. and he’s got a gold medal so, there you go.

          • DistantCousin

            Yes, I have heard he has Plans to swim
            the Full Distance of the Ice Wall!
            Yess ALL 55,000 Miles!! Non Stop!!
            His Sponsors are Lined Up and Ready!
            Frito Lay, Red Bull, Bacardi and Coca Cola!!
            “The Real Jesse Blue has declined comment
            on Sponsorship”
            Rum and Coke, Red Bull and Doritos – - -
            To Superpower him to 360 Degreee
            SUCCESS!!!!!

            RR :lol:

    • TRUTHY1

      I challenge THE MILLENNIUM REPORT To provide irrefutable proof of a “Globe” without using CGI images or artist renderings. Explain why there is no radar over the oceans or even communications over the Indian ocean. (NASA cannot communicate with supposed space vehicles) Why is there a need for microwave towers everywhere if we have satellites owned by phone service providers ? Provide an authentic picture of a satellite in orbit. Once again no CGI images or artist renderings. Explain the flag waving in the breeze with no atmosphere on the “moon” (several instances on different missions) ? GPS is a land based system,always has been. Explain how you can see a crescent moon in the sky during “daylight hours” with both heavenly bodies above the horizon ? What is casting a shadow or blocking sunlight on the moon and how. Explain how the moon becomes invisible (new Moon) to the entire planet/globe. Once you have thoroughly answered these questions I will consider your pie in the sky claims of a Psy-op and who is really culpable !

      • DistantCousin

        Psy-Op or not,
        When the Flatters Have Their Back To The Wall,
        The Spherical Types Have to “Prove” It Is A Sphere!!!
        Flatters can be proven with a Microphone to Squeal Like
        Pigs Being Taken To Slaughter. They Have Never Proved the
        Earth is Not Spherical! They have Never Navigated A Ship
        Outside of The Equator Successfully Using Flat Earth
        Navigational Aids.
        Their Only Map that They Point Proudly to was Originally Published
        as a Azimuthal Equidistant North Polar Projection OF A SPHERE!!!
        There is not even a Functioning Map.
        All Flat Maps are Non Navigable as the distances do not correlate
        Whatsoever with any points on land (East-West) outside of the
        Equator.
        Why is there an Equator? What is it Halfway Between?
        The North Pole and the WHAT?
        How are Degree Latitude Lines Calculated ON A PLANE???
        Latitude Lines are Calculated on a Sphere!!!!

        The Flat Earth Only Exists through the Lack of Real Life Experience
        in the Modern World,
        And The Destruction of Logic through the Modern Crippled Education
        Process.

        You Prove Something!!!, Oh Wise Flat Earther! Where is the Video
        of Sailing a Ship, (Port to Port) using Flat Earth Navigational Aids – -
        (Navigational Aids That DO NOT EVEN EXIST!!!)

        You Flat Earthers Have Been Weighed On The Scales,
        And Have Been Found Wanting!!!

        GET TO WORK / PROVE ME WRONG
        GO CRASH A SHIP, OR SOMETHING ELSE SPECTACULAR!!!
        RR. :cool:

      • Syco247

        Hey twatwaffle buy a telescope from walmart and watch the ISS fly over sometime, costs like $40 USD

      • 2QIK4U

        No. You are the one’s that can’t prove it isn’t. Typical reverse tactics all you flatheads use. I can stand on a property in the middle of Australia 1000 kms away from EVERYTHING and still use my satellite phone.. So glad this article is here. Go and get your doctor evil the thinning veil and shoot me a FRIKKING LASER ! 2 YEARS I’VE ASKED OVER 50 FLATHEADS TO HELP PROVE YOURSELVES AND NONE OF YOU CAN BRING THE GOOD’S STILL! I offer to prove you right and I know your wrong. Laser shot (you say doesn’t work?) Far north Eastern tip of Australia to the southwestern point of america. Straight across the ball ocean.prove me wrong and I convert… 2 years and counting!

      • 2QIK4U

        Where do you think Hubble is?

        • Syco247

          They think they hung it from some fishing line from the dome of course.

          • 2QIK4U

            :lol: lol or parked out the back of Hitlary ‘s :lol: :lol:

      • Real Expert

        Truthy, why don’t ya just go outside and see a satellite for yourself? Haven’t
        you ever seen one? If not, I am shocked! Back before there were cell phone
        towers, we had one of those huge satellite dishes. We had to aim it at
        satellites in order to get tv into our home. We went between about 15
        satellites to see various channels. We were aiming it at the satellites, not
        cell phone towers.. They didn’t even have those yet.. Do yourself a favor
        and us one too.. Go out and watch satellites go over please.. It takes
        a little patience, but you will see them..

        • 2QIK4U

          Exactly right again. The first thing i was taught in the 70′s about Satellites, is they ALL have TWO or THREE now FLASHING BLUE RED AND GREEN LIGHTS WE ALL CAN SEE WITH NAKED VISION. I WATCHED SPUTNIK CRASH IN RICHMOND MELBOURNE VICTORIA AUSTRALIA AND BEFORE IT BROKE APART ALL THE WAY TO BALLARAT (OVER 120 KLMS AWAY WE ALL SPOTTED THE FLASHING LIGHTS. THERE’S ANOTHER FACT I NEVER BOTHER TO FEEL I HAVE TO USE. I SAW SPUTNIK CRASH SO IVE ALWAYS KNOWN THEY’RE REAL. DOH!

        • Anonymous

          The only flashing lights you are seeing are airplanes. Since there are now supposed to be 33,000 satellites orbiting, we should be seeing them everywhere yet only the liars claim to see them.

          • Real Expert

            Only liars see them? No, doink boy, we that are not
            lazy as you actually go outside and look and we do see
            them! Why don’t you? Have to watch just after sundown
            to see them. It’s really not that hard to do. Come on now,
            we know you can do it! Call us liars will ya?? Can I call you
            lazy then for never getting up off your lazy butt to look?
            What will we call you after you see one? A liar?

            Thanks for your reply 2quik Houston anon said it.

          • Real Expert

            One more thing fake anon boy, satellites can’t be seen unless the
            sunlight glints off of them. Can you see a volkswagen beetle
            at 200 miles away? Of course ya can’t. Now if the sun reflects
            off of it’s surface, then you see the reflection.

    • unidentified

      its either true or false and those that know what they are talking about because they have seen it with their own eyes and are lying about it on purpose because the public cant handle the truth

      • DistantCousin

        Haben Sie ein Schraube locher?

        R.

        • FAT AXL!!!

          Ich zähle sieben.

          • FAT AXL!!!

            Negative Stimmen? Ihr Idioten wissen nicht einmal, was ich sagte.

            • DistantCousin

              Man Oh Man Hey!
              Auch Besser als Der Franzose
              Nanarchiste!!!

              Viel Spass,
              RR :cool:

            • FAT AXL!!!

              Was macht Spaß? Ich muss meine Griechische Hausaufgaben machen.

              Kein Spaß.

      • 2QIK4U

        100%it is a Psyop. Try repeating this same conversation every day for a year then you’ll see why mate
        A ball is a ball

    • YellowRoseTx51

      I find it very amusing.
      They didn’t pop out of the wood work (flat earthers) until I posted the video showing the poles visible on the planets.
      its possible its a pys op, that they are all popping up now. But more to the discredit of the round ball floating, than anything else. What is most clearly evident, to any one with eyes and no preconditioned concepts of ‘science’ when they view satellite imagery of the solar system planets – from any space agency on earth, is that the planets are NOT ’round balls’ floating freely in space. The Poles are one thing, but the shadows on the background wall with ‘stars’ is quite another.
      As for ‘gravity’, its long ( and I do mean LONG, Since Keely ) known that its controlled by sympathetic vibration, which can be produced by sound frequency. The 1908 worlds fair had the first ‘movie’ made, and they photographed the first ‘anti grav’ prototype. I remember the man, had a remote control smaller than todays tv remotes, and as he ‘lifted’ the missile casing which was hundreds of pounds, he proudly said, we could now go to explore the moon, all we needed was to figure out how to capture oxygen! Lenard Nemoy did a special on it, much later in the 70′s…and then not only was that particular worlds fair simply erased from all the archives, the video Nemoy did, was ‘syndicated’ and taken. So even the secondary videos of the original, are locked up now. No one can get copies of ‘In Search Of’ and most especially, not that particular footage. Unless you have a copy at home, from the original.

      • DistantCousin

        Regardless of the Shape of Anything,
        Thank You for Interesting Facts to further search.

        I knew an Ex-Berkeley Physicist many years ago, (Had
        worked out in Nevada with the Pluto Project as well)
        He said that at Berkeley they were playing in the sixties
        with an Anti-Gravity Play-toy that they could get to move
        around the room, but it couldn’t get it’s own power source
        aloft. It had to run tethered. (Huh, uh, what am I writing?
        Its the first time I really looked at that statement correctly
        in print) (NSA please ignore)
        Its just sort of an interesting story in relation to the World’s
        Fair You mentioned, and its so old a story, it shouldn’t be
        a security issue.

        RR :cool:

      • Mongoose

        You figured it out. It’s really all about you!

      • RoGiC

        Howdy Yellow Rose! Since you appear to be from the greatest state in the union, allow me to share an observation I made while traveling through west Texas at night. Driving into Amarillo from the east on 287 I was able to see the street lights of Amarillo from over 40 miles away, not the light pollution in the sky but the actual street lights themselves. On a ball earth model, these lights should have been over 1000′ below the horizon and completely invisible to observation. But if you saw something different on TV then it must be true.

        • Wolf of Enlightenment

          You have amazing eyesight!

          Did you know the elevation of Amarillo is about 3600 ft? 40 miles out on 287 puts you around Goodnight, TX. It’s elevation is about 3150 ft. 40 miles of an 8 inch per mile curve is about 26 ft. You are looking at Amarillo uphill. 450 ft of uphill. About 424ft minus the curve of the Earth. If your eyesight is that good, you should be able to see the lights based on round Earth theory.

          • RoGiC

            Thanks for your reply Wolf but I hate to inform you that your math is wrong, 8 inches per mile SQUARED, not 8 inches per mile. 8″ x 40 x 40 = 12,800″ or 1,066.67′. So 1,066.67′ – 450′ should still put Amarillo 616.67′ behind the curve.

            Thanks for your attempt to disprove me though, no one else has made an attempt yet so for that I will vote you up!

            Do me a favor and call the Goodnight, TX Chamber of Commerce right now and ask them if they can see Amarillo at night. Hell, better yet call the Chamber in Clarendon which is 19 miles further from Amarillo than Goodnight and ask them, here’s their number: (806) 874-2421. City hall: 806-874-3438. Hurry back!

            • Wolf of Enlightenment

              So you are basing your arguement on area and not distance? You intertwining the 2 to confuse.

              8 inches times 40 miles times 40 miles is still wrong on your arguement. 8 inches times 8 inches time 40 miles would at least prove you knew what a 8 inches per square mile was.

            • Wolf of Enlightenment

              Edit, I should have read my post before hitting submit. I had too much info rolling around and didnt take the time to properly proofread. My apologies.

              You are still wrong. So. if the Earth curves at 8 in per sq mile, it still only curves 8 inches in that square mile. You cant square the distance because this gives you area. 8 in curve is 8 in from one side to the other. Since this is a linear relationship and not area, you can’t use area when arguing distances. That is, unless your purpose is to confuse and win and arguement with false data.

            • RoGiC

              Wolf-

              I do not believe that the squaring of the mileage is measuring area but rather it measures the escalating drop on a ball. This is ball earth math, not my own, in fact when I take the distances given by science of 3,950 mile polar radius and a 3,963.2 mile equatorial radius I find that the 8″/mile sq is not enough to get you there, you actually need closer to 16″ /mile sq to make these distances work. Hope you have a great Labor Day!

              -RoGiC

        • Real Expert

          Lets set the record straight here RoGiIC. Yes that spot by Amarillo
          is one of the flattest places on the planet earth. It is even flatter than
          Kansas there. Ever been there in the daylight? I have a million times.
          Yes you can see a long ways there for sure. Your assertion though
          that it is proof that we live on a flat earth is totally absurd.
          Yes there are flat places on the globe for sure, that being one the
          flattest, there are places that are anything BUT flat too.
          So just because there is a red balloon, doesn’t make all
          balloons red! Yeah, very flat there, but don’t judge the
          whole planet on that one spots flatness. Totally absurd!

    • Anonymous

      These articles appear as a desperate laugher to all of us who have simply seen the truth with our own eyes. Laziness is no excuse to let these criminals fool you. Simply go to water, Ocean or large lake with a telescope. Binoculars work ok on a clear day but hard to hold steady at that distance. With a telescope stand at water level and you can easily see over ten miles. For anyone in the Southeast, go to Fort Fisher, NC and look South to Bald Head Island. That is approximately 11 miles by beach yet you can see it, including beach chairs and umbrellas every day in the Summer. You can even see the water’s edge with an inexpensive Meade. Impossible on a ball with a circumference of 24,901 miles.
      Then you can go to places like VBRO and find ads with people advertising lake houses for rent with views of anywhere from 3 to 10 miles. I recently stayed at one.
      Wake up folks and do this simple experiment. It will be the “Holy Crap” moment of your life!

      • Real Expert

        Yeah, we can see a distance of 32 miles on our huge spherical earth.

    • Dodgeball

      I think that most of these people who are proponents of the flat earth theory are doing so because it is either new (to them), cool, neat, different, controversial and/or can be condescending to us…the ‘stuffy’, ill-informed, gullible inhabitants of this world, who, through ignorance, still believe what the science books have written about for centuries.

      If the earth was flat, there is every reason in the world to believe that SOMEONE would have discovered the edge by now. How many ships have sailed out to sea in the past 3-4000 years? And yet no one has ever reached the ‘end’? How come there ALWAYS seems to be water at these supposed edges and not any land? I’m sure, by now, an enterprising person would have already found a way to set up some sort of dock (or deck), and, for a fee, let people take a peek over the edge. Ever heard of “Lover’s Leap”? That would be the ultimate!

      Do we have earth quakes? Of course!! For centuries already! Some severe! What is causing them if the earth was flat? Depending on how ‘thick’ this flat planet is suppose to be, according to these people, one would think that the earth would have cracked in half by now…or worse! I guess tectonic plates are a myth too!

      Do we possess atomic bombs and have they ever been detonated? You bet! Some even deep underground! How much abuse could a flat earth take as far as holding itself together with all those un-natural events taking place.

      Do we have volcanoes spewing up hot molten lava? Of course! Where is that magma coming from? You need pressure from tons and tons of rocks at deep levels to cause that! Are there still active volcanoes around? Look at Hawaii. Again, where is all that coming from?

      But I guess the biggest question is: What, pray tell, would the underbelly of this ‘flat’ earth look like? Is it just a bunch of roots hanging down? Can we see the exposed cement floor of Macy’s basement? Is there a huge hole under the ocean with a rubber plug to prevent the loss of the water? One would think that by now, with the technology we have today, that someone would have already climbed over the edge or flown under the earth to see what is there.

      They could even take photos from a satellite, for Pete’s sakes…oops, forgot, there is no such thing!!!

      • Anonymous

        There is always one of these…..

      • 2QIK4U

        FE is the new rebellious Punk death .metal.. In right now and back out for another 1200 yrs

      • RoGiC

        They have been to the edge. Adrmiral Byrd went down several times, the last trip was supposed to last months and they came back 2 weeks later, many believe it was because they found the firmament wall.

        The Antarctic Treaty System was created in 1959 shortly after Byrd’s death, it’s purpose was to set aside Antarctica for scientific research and was signed by 12 countries including the USA and Russia during the height of the cold war.

        Google it and you will find a photo from one of their annual meetings showing the group sitting at a blue (ice wall) table with a plants in the middle representing the land masses, oh and the whole thing is shaped like an uncapped pyramid. The masonic/satanic symbolism is deep which brings me to another point about the ball Earth theory, the supposed angle of tilt of the ball Earth is 23.4 degrees which has a corresponding angle of 66.6 degrees. Just saying.

        • 2QIK4U

          RoGiC, Since you have a grasp for degree’s Grab your Atlas and SEE this. SYRIA and i think iraq or Afghanistan are on the 33rd Degree of the Globe. It’s the Reason they have 33 as there favorite number. The American Zionist’s are all after the 33rd degree of the globe as It’s the reason why the military have spent (how long?) Nearly 15 years Tearing up the 33rd degree looking for hidden Virmana and Who knows what else. SYRIA on a flat scale to also eqaul 33 degree’s is IMPOSSIBLE !

          • RoGiC

            2QIK4U, the latitudinal lines don’t change in the azimuthal equidistant projection (flat earth map), they’re still circles and run through the same locations that they do on ball earth projection map.

    • Jack

      This concept is so ridiculous that it could only be the work of the federal government.

      • Communist Propaganda is Putin Me to Sleep

        My thought exactly! We have bigger fish to fry, though it is interesting how these flat earth video’s pop up on yoo boob uninvited! One thing I know for sure- Americans are not at ease with one another and my dollar cant even buy a candy bar any more. We need our country to get back to dealing with basics to succeed. Peace, freedom, prosperity: they are more interesting than if the earth is round or flat.

    • unidentified

      it’s interesting all this information is being revealed today

    • Anonymous

      In the end times the moon would shine during the day ,explain if it was common then it would not be mentioned as an end time sign but, there it is.

    • eXChroma

      This article is retarded…you act as if the flat earth theory was something created recently that they made. Flat earth has a large and religious/belief based history since long before we were capable of mis information warfare at an effective level.

      I’m not saying the earth is flat of course, but any half intelligent person can look at your title alone and see how ignorant and click baiting you are. We do have a history, whatever it may be, and not everything from our past is forgotten or forged. Especially the beliefs we as a people once believed.

    • Syco247

      Still waiting on that mathematical proof of a flat earth that these flat brained folk keep saying they can find… (keep in mind I can poke big honking holes in crap math, make sure that it is SOLID)

      • TuffENuff

        Still waiting for the NASA time-lapse video showing spin.

        • 2QIK4U

          Wish we could post photo’s as i have lovely NON GO PRO PHOTO’S OF OUR GLOBE TAKEN FROM THE STRATOSPHERE OF AUSSIE SCIENTIST DICK SMITH’S AROUND THE WORLD RECORD BREAKING HIGH ALTITUDE BALLOON VICTORY. HE ACCOMPLISHED THIS FEAT 1 MONTH AGO WITH HIS FRIEND IN 17 HOURS INCLUDING A STUFF UP WHERE OUR SOUTHERN WINDS NEARLY PUSHED HIM TO THE STH POLE INSTEAD OF COMING INTO MELBOURNE. PHOTO’S OF BALL EARTH INCLUDED ! Look it up :smile:

          • TuffENuff

            Oh kay, I looked up your Dick Smith, found a bunch of videos, really neat stuff, except there were no videos showing the spinning earth, which is what I said I was waiting for. There was one that showed the horizon from way up. Flat as a pancake.

            The point being… NASA has ISS, satellites, probes, etc. etc. so they claim, yet none of them have taken a time lapse video showing the spin. None. THAT is a fact.

            • 2QIK4U

              Really ? Not even the news reel or the route? Wtf. Thanks Tuffenuff for the heads up. It was all fully filmed and a big event here cos he hit faster than jets by sitting on top of the jet stream. I took 3 of the pics i mentioned off google the day it happened. Sorry i should have checked but they have to be there??? It’s 2am here, half asleep i will try and put link here in morning or i pi$$ Myself off! Hate lying :( It was a truly Mad feat, Dick Smith is one Rich Real Crazy Bastard. I will try to show you. I 100% Agree about NAZA though. 1000000000000%! Ball bro lol :wink: thanx tuffenuff will get at it when awake properly

    • Anonymous

      The Erf is just about as flat as Dolly Parton’s tits.

    • FACTCHECK

      Let me solve this all for you — get in a plane and fly. Go out on the ocean in a ship. If you’re still so stupid as to not be able to see with your own eyes, the curvature of the Earth, then I don’t know what else I can do for you. Aside from that, had do you morons dispel day and night?

      If we’re all on the same flat plane, then the sunlight would be hitting us all at the same time. It would appear at different angles as it went over, but it would not be night in China while daylight here. I had a pal in Russia for many years and it was always night there when daylight here. That can only be explained by the sun being on the opposite side of the planet. One side of the Earth is in shadow while the other is not. This is how the old boys figured it out as well.

      You’re all f*cking dumbasses if you think the world is flat. Like the author of this article I’m the first to admit that there are holes in much of our science. But this is not one of them.

      I will tell you why they created the flat-Earth hoax. It is so they can discredit anyone who questions NASA. “Oh you’re one of those flat-earth freaks, aren’t you?” Ha, ha. Psy-ops. When people start to make too much stink in a certain category, they have to find a way to discredit them. Since there was no way to beat the math, they instead sought to create a mental diversion. So even if someone stands up now and points to the math and says you didn’t go to the moon, the counter is, “Oh and I guess you think the Earth is flat, too, huh?” And everyone laughs. See how that works?

      • Syco247

        Like I said “Still waiting on that mathematical proof of a flat earth” but nobody steps up… the flat brainers seem to get lost shortly beyond basic arithmetic and totally give up at physics.

        • Syco247

          A down vote is not an answer, where is the MATH to PROVE this flat earth BS, proof or eat it and walk. I can quote hundreds maybe even thousands of examples math to prove globe, good solid math not one of you troglodytes can poke a hole in.

        • Mongoose

          Yeah yeah, you wait and then some one shows you and then you pretend it never happened and ask again on the next cycle.

          Wash, rinse, repeat.

          Insanity or a paycheck?

          • Syco247

            Nobody has ever shown it to anyone, not once, find and show me solid math to prove a flat earth… Go on i’ll wait.

          • FACTCHECK

            Mongoose…if the world is flat…do us a favor…start walking till you fall of it.

            • FAT AXL!!!

              Not possible. NASA and the Ice Marines would shoot him in the face before he ever got to the edge.

            • Mongoose

              This is why people refrain form debating you people, it is like trying to debate a toddler.

              There only exist 2 possibilities for people like you. Shill or fool. It is all the same to me.
              I try not to get entangled with either.

            • DistantCousin

              Do Me A Favor,
              Do The 4,000 Mile East West Walkabout in Australia.

              If You Use the Gleason Map as Your Guide, and Start
              in Brisbane, you will end your Walkabout roughly
              700 or more miles BEFORE you get to Perth.

              Start The Crowd Funding, I’ll throw in FIFTY Dollars
              (But you have to complete the east-west as the
              crow flies 4,000 Miles.)

              Prove Something That Isn’t a Pixellation TRICK
              RR :lol:

          • DistantCousin

            Yada Yada Yada,
            Cough Up Something Better Than A YouTube Link.

            By The Way, What is it that a Mongoose (or Mongeese)
            will Cough Up?

            R.

        • TuffENuff

          … and of course you’d totally understand all that math yourself. Math is a religion reserved only for super brains. You’re not one of them.

      • Mongoose

        You believe that curvature can be seen from an airplane or a ship which makes you really dumb/ignorant or a paid liar that hopes that many people are so stupid and lazy that they will just take your word for it.

        Unfortunately in many cases this is probably true.

        Curvature cannot be seen from 120,000 feet but you can see it from a ship, brilliant. It should then also be visible from a beach on the ocean then as well correct? Well guess what, it is not.

      • RoGiC

        FACTCHECK (lmao), I was in an airplane yesterday, at 34,000 feet the horizon was at eye level and still flat.

        As far as your sunshine theory goes, consider that the sun may not be as big or as far away as you learned in grade school. We actually do observe the sun shining at different angles, when you look at the sun behind a cloud you witness a small light source with light rays shining through at all angles. If the sun was as big as science says it is, one ray of sunshine would completely cover half of the ball earth like a massive spotlight with only 90 degree rays being observed.

        How do you correlate FACTCHECK with a fictitious TV character? Maybe IT MUST BE TRUE, I SAW IT ON TV would be a more fitting handle for you. Go back to sleep, you’re not ready for truth and remember: Oswald killed Kennedy, we went to the moon and Obama’s an American.

    • sallyboy6

      How fast is the earth spinning ?

      • Syco247

        This is about 24,901 miles (40,075 kilometres) per day. To calculate speed, Mr Kadish divided that distance by 23hr, 56m, 4s to reach the figure of 1,040 mph. After that, speed due to rotation was calculated by multiplying the speed at the equator by the cosine of the latitude at the point.

        (GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND)

        • Mongoose

          Centrifugal force is your enemy standing on a spinning ball.

          I went on a gravitron ride this summer for the first time in decades. It was spinning much slower than 1,000 mph but still a load of fun.

          I would not have like to be standing on the outside of it however.

          • Real Expert

            Gooseface, centrifugal force on a huge sphere is your friend!
            On a small globe, yes your are right, it would be a problem.
            On a huge globe though, the effects are hardly noticeable!
            That”s one of the FE communities biggest problems, is that
            their models all incorporate a small globe in their
            arguments. It’s huge, mot small.

            • Mongoose

              You begin with an idiotic insult and then expect rational people to take you seriously?

              Or you are speaking towards the more idiotic crowd that respects idiotic insults.
              They are most likely the only ones who would anyway.

              Show me the FE model with a small globe. The math is for approximately 25,000 mile circumference and an 8,000 mile diameter.

              I think we all agree on what the dimensions of the globe that we were taught are.

              At 1,000 mph with a drop of 8 inches per mile the earth on the equator would be dropping ( a person would be essentially being thrown outward/upward at 90 degrees from the axis of rotation) 8,000 inches per hour or 133.33 inches ( 11.11 ft.) a minute and you say that this would not be noticeable?

              There would be a huge difference in a persons weight from the equator as compared to the pole where there is no centrifugal force at all. This is not the case in reality.

              Give me a break already.

        • sallyboy6

          Not buying that …. So you aim your dish at a satellite in space and that satellite stays in lock step with the spin of the earth with the wobble … What is propelling satellites in space with no atmosphere ?

          • Syco247

            Inertia you daffy cave man, and it’s called geosynchronous orbit, grow a brain you booger eaters.

            • sallyboy6

              I didn’t see that word in the bible …. I did read four corners of the earth …. Believe not of what you hear and half of what you see … See ya on the other side

            • Syco247

              Yeah sure because you know, a dusty old myth out weighs literally thousands of years of actually observation to the contrary. Science will always trump superstition. Faith is NOT proof. My own eyes watching a space station orbit overhead IS! (telescopes are not expensive or complicated to use, regardless what they tell you about that “witchcraft” called optics)

            • FAT AXL!!!

              Today is August 29th in the year 2016.

              And for the first time ever, in the recorded history of mankind…

              …someone has used the terms ‘geosynchronous orbit’ and ‘booger eaters’ in the same sentence.

            • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

              WKRP flashback. :lol: :lol: :lol:

            • FAT AXL!!!

              Johnny Fever only said ‘booger.’

              If he said half the things Sicko says, they would have strung him up.

          • FACTCHECK

            Buy yourself a yo-yo…tie the string to your finger and let it go. Now start spinning in a circle. The yo-yo will move outward till the string is taut, but now it will hold its position relative to you as you spin. It will not wrap around you. The smaller the object, the better it stays in sync with you. Big objects will wrap around you or break off and fly away. Simple physics. Try it dumbass.

            • 2QIK4U

              YESSSS BECAUSE IT’S INSIDE OUR ATMOSPHERE ! YOU WILL GET THE SAME STUPIDO RESULTS YOU GET BY POURING WATER ON A TENNIS BALL ! Why do i have to be stupid to get on FE level??? UNFKNBLVBL

          • Real Expert

            Sallyboy6, science was not ever one of your strong suits eh?
            Satellites are put into what is called and “orbit”. With no
            atmosphere to slow them down, once put into motion, they
            stay in motion. Satellites have small control jets to do
            orbital corrections from time to time, but they pretty much
            stay orbiting around the planet after they have been placed
            in a geosynchronous orbit without any need for propellants.
            You cannot think in terms of how things work in our atmosphere,
            which may be hard for you to grasp. There is no friction out
            in space at 22,500 miles out. If you were out there in space
            away from the earth and threw a baseball, it would keep going
            nearly forever unless something stopped it. Satellites therefore
            require no propellant to keep in their orbits. I know you
            can’t “buy” into this concept, as you have nothing much to work
            with. Sort of like teaching a monkey brain surgery. Some
            things are just too much information to cram into a very
            small space.

      • DistantCousin

        He Asks “How Fast is The Earth Spinning?”

        1 Revolution Per 24 hours or Day – -
        Or Maybe it Doesn’t Spin.

        RR :lol:

    • joe159

      No flat earthers are idiots’ we are a ball spinning through space with the atmosphere eh spinning with us sometimes clockwise and sometimes anti clockwise and the sun is billions of miles away. I don’t know whether we are flat or a ball but the spinning through space has to be the best joke up there with the lot of them.

      • sallyboy6

        Don’t forget the Big Bang …. Evolution …dinosaurs …. Scientist say dna is never identical and that a dog will always be a dog … So…. Must have been a designer of our environment .. Oh no not the God word … Sorry I gotta spin out of here

    • 2QIK4U

      Look at Sunsteins Head, it’s about to pop from Obama BS!

    • unidentified

      long ago people thought this was the center of the universe and everything else revolves around it

      • sallyboy6

        And fluoride prevents tooth decay ….. Mercury is good for you …. We live in a free world too

        • Mongoose

          You believe that curvature can be seen from an airplane or a ship which makes you really dumb/ignorant or a paid liar that hopes that many people are so stupid and lazy that they will just take your word for it.

          Unfortunately in many cases this is probably true.

          That is what people believe now.

          • Mongoose

            That is what people believe now.

    • Solar)Geometry

      Sure the earth spins over 1000 mph. That is why Felix Baumgartner went to subspace and dropped straight down onto his target, hitting it over 4 minutes later.

      • 2QIK4U

        If you research the jump again you’ll find his capsule was still in earths atmosphere on the EDGE of space… Nice try

        • TuffENuff

          Hahaha… the EDGE of space. Define that when you get a chance… thanks.

          • 2QIK4U

            SUBSPACE IS FURTHER OUT. TECHNICHALLY HE WAS STILL IN OXYGEN AND HE WAS NOT FLOATING. SUBSPACE IS PARTIAL WHERE HE COULD EASILY HIT AND BE PULLED INTO ORBIT. EVERY SATELLITE EXCEPT THE JAPANESE ONE SENT 2 MTHS AGO HAS TO FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURE

            • 2QIK4U

              Loving these downvotes BUT NOBODY HAS A RESPONSE AS USUAL. HOW MUCH EASIER CAN I MAKE IT FOR YOU LIAR’S? I OFFER TO WORK WITH YOU TO PROVE YOU RIGHT AND STILL ALL THE RESPONSE IS CRICKET’S CHIRPING? YOU LOT ARE EASIER TO EXPOSE THAN CELL EARTH FARQAUD ! AT LEAST HE HAS CONVICTION EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK ONE OF HIS ARTICLES TO PROVE HIMSELF WRONG ! IF I OFFERED HIM TO PROVE CELL EARTH AT LEAST HE WOULD ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE (until i proved him wrong again ) :lol:

        • RoGiC

          And if YOU watch the video again you will see that the horizon is flat in the camera shots from within the capsule and then show a curve through the fish eye lens on the outside of the capsule.

          Also, all the pre-space mission photos of earth from balloons such as Auguste Piccard’s show a flat horizon, we didn’t get curved horizons until we got NASA. And if you watch some of the videos from NASA that show a convex earth, the earth appears concave when the vehicle rolls over. There’s no curvature, just fish eye lenses.

      • Syco247

        They actually had to do a LOT of math and select a good site for this jump, the first several trials runs were scrubbed due to wind and such not being in favor, coriolis effect is still a problem even in a vertical drop scenario. You have to account for the movement in general, go sky diving sometime you will get the idea then, if you have not been and done it, kindly stuff a sock in it, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

        • 2QIK4U

          Once you base jump It’s hard to get that better rush :smile:

    • beefree

      Those that believe that this is a planet traveling millions miles and not hitting one giant planet or comet has to be kidding me. This video explains allot: There are no forests on earth! (ENGLISH VOICEOVER) – YouTube

      • 2QIK4U

        Those that believe anything you post in an article has they’re own problems… Petrified wood can’t produce mineral gems diamonds and gold. The end.

      • 2QIK4U

        Since you alude to mountains being the trees in bible land.

    • Andoron

      For those who buy into the flat-earth conspiracy. Please do not breed, spare mankind the stupidity.

      • Syco247

        If I could give this +1000 I would.

        • 2QIK4U

          And 1 for Syco to :smile:

      • Mongoose

        That was the most intelligent thing that you could think of to say and you are giving advice on who should be breeding?

        Thank you for the intellectually stimulating, thoughtful and eye opening bit of information.

        I was beginning to question the shape of the earth but now after reading your wise and elegant rebuttal I have realized my folly and will now return to the living dead and be a good human cattle with my eyes closed and never question what I am told ever again.

        I am forever in your debt.

        • The Clucker

          “I have realized my folly and will now return to the living dead and be a good human cattle with my eyes closed and never question what I am told ever again.

          I am forever in your debt.”

          It’s good to see a Flat Earther finally stand up and take responsibility for promoting this erroneous theory. Thanks for coming clean, Mongoose. You have set a great example for all Flat Earthers everywhere.

          • 2QIK4U

            Hahahahaha I might join you BAAAA BHAAA BHAAA SHEEPY TIME :lol:

        • deano

          Obviously a MONOtheistGOOSE!……your like Bradley Manning without a cause……at least he had the BALLS to expose the lies & cover-up, and came out of his own sexual Denial…….

          Which is why your here, Denial, Ridicule,and DISINFO. A nefarious confession booth agenda to Distract people from the Truth…….and then label as Conspiritards…….>>>>>>>

          “giving advice on who should be breeding?”…………BINGO :idea: :idea: :idea:

          We live in a world, where WHO give advice on Sex, Marriage & Divorce?

          Some Pious Ponce in a Yellow Frock with beads, pink slippers and an IDOL of a Deadman,(never married) on a Stick?
          The effeminate men who become transgender NUNs in a convent, or closet homos & alcoholics, or worse >PEDOPHILES?
          Who until recently, would CASTRATE young Choirboys?…..To become CELIBATE

          Funny how even Clucker wears a FLAT HAT. The Theological Emeritus Proffessors that started the Academy of Sciences in MARYland, were the SCIENTIFIC LAZZARONI, and went on to establish the Smithsonian(same Jesuit Sun logo)……
          SCIENCE was infiltrated and swayed by the Church from its very beginings, early scientists were at first called Philosophers!

          No Truthseekers, dont WASTE time researching this Jesuit Donkey Balls. Even Greek God ATLAS had a globe on his shoulders…….a quick drive up to a high lookout and you can see the curvature with your OWN 2 Eyes!

          All to DISTRACT from the real elephant turd. The CATHOLIC church is that of the Pontus Galatian “GALLI” priests . Eunechs!. Effeminate men that became Celibate >Castrated themselves. They were also BOY Lovers, and why there is so many images of Cherabim(angels) or genital mutilated statues covered with “Fig Leafs”……

          and Today, these Celibates, are highly respected community leaders giving advice?

          As a baby Marylander, you are Baptised ($/child abuse), then you go to Sunday School(lies/victim possibles)…….then Married($/Oath to God)….Then Divorced($/stuff god)….and then you DIE (funeral $$$$?/help me god)…….

          and all of this FAMILY INFLUENCE from a Virgin Celibate Man that wears a frock & beads?
          and whose countless Brothers are Child Sex Abusing PEDOPHILES…….
          protected by Judges, trained by the same Emeritus Proffessors of THEIR Theological Collegiums……….and why no one is listened to or respected if they dont have a PhD……..

          • FAT AXL!!!

            “Funny how even Clucker wears a FLAT HAT.”

            Impress me, Deano. Tell me the Masonic significance of the mortarboard.

            • 2QIK4U

              They make great Frisbees :lol:

            • The Clucker

              …can’t believe deano had to drag my hat into this.

          • Mongoose

            Wow, you need help.

          • Jack Shlitz

            YAWN

      • Anonymous

        You mean that your parents believed in flat earth too?

        • The Clucker

          Too little, too late, Anon 64/440. 64 out of 440. I would have expected a lower figure from you.

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            That might have been 440 out of 64 Cluck!
            5 out of 4 Americans have problems with fractions! :wink: :lol:

    • QuestionTheSource

      As the Provider of this information does not wish to be public about their identity. Sourced from a simple “who is” search.
      themillenniumreport.com
      Registration Private
      Domains By Proxy, LLC
      DomainsByProxy.com
      I would encourage the critical thinking individual reading this comment to consider the following.
      It as seems by this article’s structure that the author has a certain bias and agenda to present to the reader. Not to truly inform the reader, but to encourage them to completely disregard the subject matter and dismiss the topic because of the negative affects or connotations that can be applied to the term or label “Flat Earther”.
      Consider this; just as the term “conspiracy theorist” has been proven to have been created by the CIA to label truth seekers as crazies and dismissed. The term “Flat Earther”, the mental image you perceive in your mind, and physical/mathematical contradictions that will cause your reasoning to dismiss the idea of what a Flat Earth would look like, and how it would function has also been created if not reinforced throughout your entire life.
      Just like in Columbus’ day people thought that there was only a certain amount of LAND and no more right? And those people who thought that were wrong!
      The holes in the Heliocentric system and the “current scientific paradigm that involves both astrophysics and astronomy” are just that, holes in a paradigm. Perhaps the only way to control the world is to convince everyone that there is only so much of it, therefore instead of searching for more they will all fight amongst themselves, make war and fear, and lie about the scarcity of resources.
      Maybe you’re not fully awake yet, maybe you should disregard this comment.
      Maybe you’re waking up, maybe you should look into it more and get more information.
      Maybe there’s more to this world than has been authoritatively educated and fed to you
      Maybe you voluntarily paid and accepted it from authority. Is that an investment you wish to continue?

      • DistantCousin

        Agree or Disagree, or Totally Understand Your Point – - -
        It doesn’t Matter. I Thank You for posting. I abandon
        Nothing, but I will gladly consider many angles to look at
        a Subject. With Orwell being in some ways a Julian Assange
        with a hacked textbook, we are living in deceiving times.
        Where only the Fool or the Paid Lackey will say,
        “Follow Me! I Know the Way! And The Kingdom of God is at Hand!!!”

        RR :shock:

    • JBZ

      FLAT ! FLAT ! Like it’s flat as flat as a flat can be! :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

    • Justin Tyme

      It’s to discredit the HOLLOW EARTH. But, the Earth is NOT a Ball, nor is it FLAT. But an OBLATE SPHEROID. So any time some one shows a flat line on Earths horizon, “it’s just the flat part of an oblate spheroid”!! :lol: :lol:

    • FACTCHECK

      Ever notice as soon as you mix it up with one of these flat earther types they immediately drag into the argument every other viable conspiracy fact? Like fluoride is bad and chemtrails and every other thing they can? That’s the whole purpose of this. They tarnish the reputable facts surrounding other fringe ideas and theories by inserting their ludicrous crap in with it. It’s like the proverbial barrel of apples. Flat Earth theory is the bad apple. It diminishes the value of all the other apples by its very presence. Refuse the bad apple and kick it out of the barrel.

      • MILLENNIUM Reporter

        Internet Troll Hunter Completely Demolishes the Nonsensical Flat Earth Conspiracy

        http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=15815

        The Death of Flat Earth…
        by FACTCHECK

        • RoGiC

          Really?!? This article by “FACTCHECK” is unresearched and assumes that the sun remains the same size in a flat earth model and doesn’t consider physical observations that the sun is much smaller and closer than we imagine in a ball earth universe. Just as the author and his commie friend can’t see the same airplanes in the sky at the same, so to is our observation of the sun and moon. Airplanes coming towards you appear to rise in the sky and appear to fall when going away, yet we know that this is not what’s really happening. The sun and moon move the same way in the flat earth model traveling around the globe at the same height yet appearing to rise and fall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8

    • Gil Carlson

      BLUE PLANET PROJECT is allegedly the notebook of a scientist who worked on a top secret United States government program involving alien research. This scientist visited various UFO crash sites, Blue Planet Project Book Contains these notes and drawings of aliens and UFOs at crash sites released before he disappeared.
      http://www.blue-planet-project.com/

      • 2QIK4U

        I visited your site and there are some good reads available BUT it’s a shame you feel the need to CHARGE MONEY FOR FREE INFORMATION ! So i went to THE BLACK VAULT instead where EVERY SINGLE AVAILABLE GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT IS THERE FOR EVERYBODY FOR FREE. HOLDING OUT TO MAKE A DOLLAR OFF ALIEN INFORMATION JUST MAKE’S ME THINK YOUR JUST LIKE THE GLOBALIST’S. HOLDING HUMAN NATURE TO RANSOM. I HOPE YOU WILL JUST LET PEOPLE LEARN INSTEAD OF PROFIT ‘cos that’s what HTTP//THEBLACKVAULT.COM Does. If you help people learn you might learn something to my friend. Cheers big ears :wink:

    • rocorollo

      My mind is mop water.
      So I bought a new mop
      and a new floor
      The Earth is hollow.

      • Jack Shlitz

        Whatever…

    • Emmettsmom

      ALL ‘Flat Earthers’ need to research Fyodor Konyukhov-he just made it AROUND the world in 11 days in a Hot Air Balloon. -It was NOT his 1st time, & others have done this, also. He has also SAILED AROUND the world-a globe- on a sailboat more than once & so have others. You can find all his coordinates, & the places he passed through, in order, on his trip AROUND our planet. Hes also BEEN to the North & South POLES, & the pole of Inaccessibility in the Artic Ocean. -NO Guards, NO Edges.
      Maybe its time someone Tells him the Earth is FLAT :eek: , & see what HE says?? I’m sure he could use a good laugh.

      • RoGiC

        Traveling around the earth doesn’t prove a globe but only a circle. How do you know that he’s been to the South Pole? Were you there to confirm this feat?

      • 2QIK4U

        11 DAY’S!!!??? Aussie DICK SMITH did it one month ago with a friend in 17 HOURS and also brought back photo’s of GLOBE EARTH.

    • RoGiC

      Ball Earthers please explain why Polaris never moves and the stars form circles around it in long-term exposure photos. Why does this phenomena only show the spin of the Earth and not the much faster movement of the Earth around the Sun or the even faster movement of the Sun around the Galactic Center or the even greater speed of the expansion of the Universe from the “Big Bang”?

      Why are the constellations exactly as they appeared to the earliest observers and not spreading out and moving further away from each other as science says that it does? Shouldn’t we see a completely different sky than the ones recorded in Mesopotamia if modern astronomers are correct in their theories?

      If the Earth is spinning as it travels around the Sun, why is the Sun always above us at noon? Shouldn’t this only occur once a year and slowly move towards the Sun being above us at midnight 6 months later?

      Also, please explain how rivers work on a ball, do they not have to travel uphill on a ball before going back downhill to the sea?

      Mathematically the curvature of the ball Earth is 8″ per mile squared meaning that a 6′ person would not be visible at 3 miles at sea level because they would be behind the curve, at 10 miles he would be 66′ below the horizon. How about explaining that math Syco? How can realtors sell 20 and 30 mile views if they are scientifically impossible?

      And another thing, why don’t flights between South America and Australia go over Antarctica as this would be the most efficient route?

      Please use your 5 senses and a rational brain to answer these questions and not something you learned in a government textbook. Thanks!

      • RoGiC

        Ball earthers- I posted these questions over 12 hours ago and not one of you has touched them.

        I didn’t come to a flat earth conclusion overnight, I first questioned the heliocentric model because of the way the stars move around Polaris, FE is where those questions led me. At the very least, consider this observation which demonstrates the “universe” rotates around the earth and points to a geocentric model.

      • Jack Shlitz

        Ju…ju…ju…ju…just SHUT UP!

        • RoGiC

          Thank you Jack Schlitz for straightening me out!

          Ju…ju…ju…ju…just brilliant! You win! I change my stance, the earth must be a ball!

          You’re against HRC but speak like a libtard democrat, come back with observable facts and not insults next time you want to play. Now take your ball (earth) and go home!

          • Jack Shlitz

            Observable facts for you? Not Happening! You’ve got a long way to go and a lot of things to learn, confirm & verify in life before you can rationally demand that I debate you about something as absurd as FE Theory. Things like: How do those wondrous spheres illuminate those magical stands that sit a loft your sofa? And how many invisible horses pull your carriage? Your life is a journey of discovery!
            Insults? I haven’t even begun to insult some of you propeller heads here on BIN but flat earth theory’s a good place to start as any.

        • RoGiC

          Come on Jack Schitz, DC, Syco, “Fact”check; I’m waiting!

          Down votes don’t answer questions.

          • Jack Shlitz

            No, but one down vote for you will mean two up votes to get above ZERO…..there’s one down for ya. Compliments of yours truly!

      • Wolf of Enlightenment

        I HAVE ANSWERED IN ALL CAPS. NOT YELLING, BUT JUST SHOWING MY ANSWERS CLEARLY

        Ball Earthers please explain why Polaris never moves and the stars form circles around it in long-term exposure photos. Why does this phenomena only show the spin of the Earth and not the much faster movement of the Earth around the Sun or the even faster movement of the Sun around the Galactic Center or the even greater speed of the expansion of the Universe from the “Big Bang”?

        IT DOES MOVE OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. LONG-TERM EXPOSURE PHOTO WOULD NOT CAPTURE THIS. TIME LAPSE DOES PROVE THE MOVEMENT.

        Why are the constellations exactly as they appeared to the earliest observers and not spreading out and moving further away from each other as science says that it does? Shouldn’t we see a completely different sky than the ones recorded in Mesopotamia if modern astronomers are correct in their theories?

        THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DISTANCE THESE CONSTELLATIONS ARE AWAY FROM US. GALAXIES MOVE VERY SLOW COMPARED TO THE HUMAN LIFESPAN. YOU WOULDNT NOTICE A DIFFENCE OVER MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS/

        If the Earth is spinning as it travels around the Sun, why is the Sun always above us at noon? Shouldn’t this only occur once a year and slowly move towards the Sun being above us at midnight 6 months later?

        THIS IS ONLY TRUE AT THE EQUATOR. THE FUTHER AWAY FROM THE EQUATOR, THE LESS LIKELY THE SUN WILL BE ABOVE YOU AT NOON. A YEARS OF TESTING WOULD PROVE THIS CORRECT.

        Also, please explain how rivers work on a ball, do they not have to travel uphill on a ball before going back downhill to the sea?

        THE BALL IS NOT SMOOTH. TOPOGRAPHY WILL DIRECT THE WATER TO THE LOWEST POINT. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT STRAIGHT LINE, BUT THE WATER WILL EVENTUALLY GET THERE.

        Mathematically the curvature of the ball Earth is 8″ per mile squared meaning that a 6′ person would not be visible at 3 miles at sea level because they would be behind the curve, at 10 miles he would be 66′ below the horizon. How about explaining that math Syco? How can realtors sell 20 and 30 mile views if they are scientifically impossible?

        8 INCHES PER MILE. 3 MILES IS 24 INCHES HORIXON CHANGE = 2 FT. THE SIX FOOT PERSON IS STILL VISIBLE. REALTORS WILL SAY ANYTHING TO A GULLIBLE SALE, SO THAT IS NOT A VALID ARGUEMENT.

        And another thing, why don’t flights between South America and Australia go over Antarctica as this would be the most efficient route

        THE SAME REASON YOU DONT FLY OVER THE NORTH POLE.

        • RoGiC

          Thanks for your reply Wolf but I hate to inform you that your math is still wrong, 8 inches per mile SQUARED, not 8 inches per mile. 8″ x 40 x 40 = 12,800″ or 1,066.67′. So 1,066.67′ – 450′ should still put Amarillo 616.67′ behind the curve.

          Thanks for your attempt to disprove me though, no one else has made an attempt yet so for that I will vote you up!

          IT DOES MOVE OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. LONG-TERM EXPOSURE PHOTO WOULD NOT CAPTURE THIS. TIME LAPSE DOES PROVE THE MOVEMENT.

          What? In an even smaller circle above the North Pole? We should not see circles if we account for all 4 scientific movements.

          THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DISTANCE THESE CONSTELLATIONS ARE AWAY FROM US. GALAXIES MOVE VERY SLOW COMPARED TO THE HUMAN LIFESPAN. YOU WOULDNT NOTICE A DIFFENCE OVER MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS/

          So you have been told but you have no real verifiable evidence and your senses tell you different; trust what’s inside of you, not what your government told you.

          THIS IS ONLY TRUE AT THE EQUATOR. THE FUTHER AWAY FROM THE EQUATOR, THE LESS LIKELY THE SUN WILL BE ABOVE YOU AT NOON. A YEARS OF TESTING WOULD PROVE THIS CORRECT.

          I’m not arguing about what time the sun is above us, think about the heliocentric model for a second. If the Earth is spinning at a constant and traveling around the sun, then the direction the Earth is pointing toward the sun should be the same direction it is pointing at the same time on the other side of the sun. This would produce a sun at high noon on one side of the sun and a sun at midnight on the other roughly 6 months later.

          THE BALL IS NOT SMOOTH. TOPOGRAPHY WILL DIRECT THE WATER TO THE LOWEST POINT. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT STRAIGHT LINE, BUT THE WATER WILL EVENTUALLY GET THERE.

          I won’t address this as your math is still wrong, 8 inches per mile SQUARED!

          8 INCHES PER MILE. 3 MILES IS 24 INCHES HORIXON CHANGE = 2 FT. THE SIX FOOT PERSON IS STILL VISIBLE. REALTORS WILL SAY ANYTHING TO A GULLIBLE SALE, SO THAT IS NOT A VALID ARGUEMENT.

          See above

          THE SAME REASON YOU DONT FLY OVER THE NORTH POLE.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_route

          • Wolf of Enlightenment

            You still claim the 8 inches per square mile false math. That distance and area blurring thing agian.

            So you are basing constellation movements on the north pole and not somewhere else. So explain why they move so much between the poles?

            No, I question the gov all the time. Just seeing the weathering of a building over time tells me that such great time and space differences can not be comprhended by thinking of just the here and now.

            I dont think you truly comprehend the heliocentric model with the whole daylight at midnight on the other side of the sun.

            Topography is diffenet than your 8 in miscalculation. Now we are talking elevation above sea level with gravity.

            Touche on the north pole. I just mailed that one in because I liked my smart ass answer.

        • RoGiC

          My bad, old comments were still there but they were for you anyways. Thanks again for your reply, I really appreciate that you didn’t start with name-calling. You are a genuine truth seeker and I think if you can ignore what you have been taught by the government, look at the ball earth math and start asking questions, you will soon see the validity of my argument. God bless!

          • Wolf of Enlightenment

            I agree name calling leads to nothing but hate.

            I ask the same questions of the flat earth theory as I do the ball theory. So far, the round/elliptical earth theory makes more sense based on scientific evidence that I have tested and witnessed for myself. Untill I go to space and see it, it will be a theory, but until you go off the edge or climb over the Antartic wall, so to is yours a theory. :idea:

      • Real Expert

        RoGIC, let’s start out with Polaris.
        The earth spin is constant. If our north Pole is lined up
        with Polaris, it wil stay lined up with it always. Unless a giant
        hand came in and bumped the earth, it’s not going to lose
        that alignment as it orbits the sun. It’s just that easy!
        As it spins it will always be aligned with Polaris. There is
        nothing to change it’s alignment.

        Let’s discuss why the constellations do not change.
        Our time on planet earth is just a drop in the bucket
        on a universal time scale. Millions of years can go by,
        and nothing is going to change in human observation.
        Expand your thinking to billions of years to notice change.

        On your rivers question, you seem to think that gravity
        pulls from north to south? There is no uphill on the
        globe. Gravity pulls from the surface to straight down.
        Don’t forget the earth is in space, and there is no up or down
        in space. Up and down is really a description of toward
        the earth or away from it. Once in space, there is no up or down.
        So gravity pulls straight toward the center, so rivers will
        be spread out uniformly on the globes surface. The will
        then flow from their highest point to the lowest point.
        (Sea Level) . There is your science lesson for the day!

    • Daughter of the Church

      This piece is just an other big budget debunk in order to maintain the five hundred years old lie that God does not exist. It is vital for the enemies of God the creator to maintain the lie for an other, let’s say five more months before they can bring hell on earth.

      Can’t anyone see the deception? How many times were you interrupted by obnoxious pop-up adds during the reading of this article? Does anyone know that during war, there is jamming of the radio waves? Does anyone understand that the big lie of heliocentrism is the root of the rebellion against God?

      • Jack Shlitz

        Dear God: Please keep Flat As ser’s home on election day so they don’t go out and vote for HRC or their country’s comparable progressive…Thank you, Lord

    • Overmind

      There is no Earth. There’s only the Force.

      • Jack Shlitz

        There is no spoon. Then you’ll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

    • The Real Deal

      There is no curve, why is that? The Earth is flat, pal. You can sin the truth whichever way you want to, you have that right, but the evidence is clear.

    • stompk

      I trust Eric Dubay. He is just a truth seeker, and makes so very good points…although I’m still not convinced.

      • Mongoose

        Eric is a queer shill who’s job was to discredit the very idea of the earth being flat by mixing truths with stupid lies in order to make people who repeat his work sound like imbeciles. Why do you think that youtube was promoting him?

        I still see people repeating some of his false and easily debunkable proofs sometimes such as how can a butterfly fly or there is no force pulling down there is only density.

        There clearly is a force pulling down on everything, that can not seriously be questioned. What can be questioned is the nature of this force. Density is not a force. The force that holds things down pulls harder on more dense objects then on less dense objects.

        /conspiracy-theories/2016/02/false-flat-earth-arguments-that-should-be-avoided-2473966.html

    • 2QIK4U

      This article seem’s to have 100 time’s the comment’s than any FE article i’ve seen here, Nice job millennium and Cousin. But we have to remember this is a Bible Bashing Website were we Naturally will be downvoted by Confused people in a Fantasyland. I mean it is part of thier Fearytale. I mean it’s a known fact This Jesus was also screwing Mary and even in the last supper painting Scholar’s agreed that there possibly could be a baby born from Hey Zuess and Mary hidden in there arm’s. I saw that in a religious documentary over 20 years ago and constantly the story come’s back but i haven’t seen any Truth of it here once. So we have to accept Christian’s won’t learn, because they keep making it up as it fit’s them. Why do you think America is the only one’s who are trying to destroy the Planet now so they Can Force Scripture to appear True ! Pack of lovely but confused fanatic’s. A bible in one hand and a Sawn off in the other. Just give me 2 Sawn offs because you only get help when you help yourself .

    • Jack Shlitz

      It’s simple geometry. If you were to sail near the supposed 150′ ice wall guarded by inept world powers all you’d need to do is measure the distance from point to point. Then go to the supposed equator OR where a Flat A ss-er would assume to be the the middle of the “Plate” and do the same thing. If the earth were flat you would have one unique set of measurements. Now do the same exercise on a sphere; those measurements, again, would be unique and as the saying goes: “Do the Math”. Anyone who would debate this is either really bored with Summer break or needed a reprieve from their marathon D&D game schedule. Distant Cousin, why are you calling these guys out? What need do you have to prove that you’re right? “Assorted under-educated Annonymouses” (sic)…huh?
      And Jango, is 2016-2017 your last year in high school or are you working on your GED? Was 11th grade the toughest three years of your life? Jango, I’m beginning to believe that you’re the nefarious KOS under a different handle.

      Your verbal catharsis, however, is amusing. Some advice, when debating, use more phrases like these:
      “No it’s not”, “You can’t say that”, “Double stamped it, no eraseez”, “triple stamped it, no quitsies”

      • RoGiC

        Or ju…ju…ju…ju…just SHUT UP! Hypocrite.

    • Conranblimp

      So we are:-

      spinning around at 1000 miles an hour and don’t fly off;

      even if two aircraft take off from a spinning earth in opposite directions, they get to their destinations at the sameish time

      I am in London sitting up. If I call my friend in Australia who is sitting up, why is he not standing on his head?

      Why do all ‘space’ launches end up with the craft heading into a big curve (for it to fall back to earth when it disappears from sight)

      why do ships disappear over the horizon with their sails showing last? Are they going down stairs? If the earth is a ball, should we not be seeing the backside of the ship?

      After those teasers, here is the coup de grace:-

      WHERE IT THE SCIENTIFIC MODEL OF THE SPINNING EARTH?? WHY HAVE NO SCIENTIST EVER, EVER SHOWN US MICE SPINNING AROUND ON A GLOBE, HELD THEIR BY GRAVITY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF WATER ETC????

      WHY, BECAUSE GLOBE EARTH IS A TOTAL SCAM – SATAN’S RUSE TO KICK GOD IN THE TEETH AND TO MAKE IDIOTS OF US ALL. THE BIBLE IS CLEAR THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT.

      • Syco247

        The same idiot book that says we are all the descendants of one family? It is not possible to build a population with a gene pool that small. Get real.
        :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:

        • FAT AXL!!!

          I thought you said you were good at math.

          You just shot yourself in the foot, meatball.

          Twice.

      • Syco247

        Ohh and mass has A LOT to do with it you bloody great wingnut!

    • unidentified

      must be about time for someone to travel way up high and take a real picture of the planet for us because if the planet is not a spinning globe orbiting our sun then schoolbooks will need to be rewritten :???:

      • Jack Shlitz

        It wouldn’t prove anything because ultimately whoever took the pictures would be paid by the establishment….am I right, huh…huh?? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    • RDeBeaux

      The earth has always been a sphere.
      Anyone doubting this FACT, is just looking for attention, good or bad.

    • Thom V

      Item #3…..when the globe-alist first provide a photo of EARTH, then the Flat Earthers will provide the photo of the edge of the flat earth. In all the years and Billions of dollars spent shooting rockets into the sky, to orbit and land on the moon, not ONE real photo of earth from the fraudsters, NASA. Rockets don’t work in the vacuum of space. Getting past the Van Allen belt hasn’t been done yet. Guess the ‘globalist’ had to come out with this story to continue the Big Lie.

    • Alan Schuetz

      Hey, DistantCousin, maybe this is more on your level of comprehension: https://youtu.be/LYIRoGB3pUU

      Folks, don’t give these anonymous, disinformation hacks like DC the time of day (which, BTW, originated with the Egyptians and Babylonians). Take the red pill and free your mind from the programming. The truth is out there!

    • Wolf of Enlightenment

      Hey Flat Earthers, I would like help in understanding a few things that I can’t make work in the flat earth model.

      1. Seasons. Why does it get warmer and colder? More daylight vs less daylight?
      2. Water draining the opposite direction in Brazil vs the USA
      3. Wouldnt it be more efficient to fly over the N pole from S America to Austrailia?

      I am sure there is more, but those stuck out to me.

    • Beta-Libra

      The earth is both flat and round, it’s all relative to the size of any given living object that can observe whatever it is they are capable of understanding.

    • Radiance

      A little history lesson from: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/09/21/who-discovered-the-earth-is-ro/

      “…One of these scientists was the Ancient Greek Astronomer, Eratosthenes of Cyrene.

      While living in Alexandria, Eratosthenes received some amazing correspondence from the city of Syene in southern Egypt. In particular, it said that, on the Summer Solstice,

      the shadow of someone looking down a deep well would block the reflection of the Sun at noon.

      In other words, the Sun would be directly overhead at this time, not a single degree to the South, North, East or West. And if you had a completely vertical object, it would cast absolutely no shadow.

      But Eratosthenes knew that this wasn’t the case where he was, in Alexandria. Sure, the Sun came closer to being directly overhead at Noon on the Summer Solstice in Alexandria than at any other time during the year, but vertical objects still cast shadows.

      And — like any good scientist — Eratosthenes did the experiment. By measuring the length of the shadow cast by a vertical stick during the solstice noon, he could figure out what angle the Sun made with the vertical direction at Alexandria.

      And the answer he got was one-fiftieth of a circle, or 7.2 degrees. But at this time, in Syene, the angle the Sun was making with an identical vertical stick was zero degrees! What could be causing this? In perhaps a stroke of genius, Eratosthenes realized that the Sun’s rays could all be parallel, and that the Earth could be curved!

      If he could then figure out the distance from Alexandria to Syene, since he knew the angular difference between the two cities, he could figure out the circumference of the Earth! If only Eratosthenes had a grad student, he could have sent one to make the trip, and measure the distance! Instead, he was forced to rely on the reported distance between the two cities. The most “precise” measurement of his day?

      Travel-by-camel. (So I can understand criticisms of his accuracy.) Nevertheless, his results were that the distance between Syene and Alexandria were 5,000 stadia. The question, of course, is how big is a stadium? The answer depends, of course, on whether Eratosthenes, a Greek living in Egypt, was using an Attic stadium or an Egyptian stadium, something still debated among historians. An Attic stadium was used more commonly, and is 185 meters in modern terms. Using this value, one gets a circumference of the Earth of 46,620 kilometers, a number that’s only about 16% bigger than the actual value.

      However, an Egyptian stadium is 157.5 meters, and it’s conceivable that’s what Eratosthenes meant. In that case, we get a value of 39,375 kilometers, which is off by less than 2% from the modern value of 40,041 km!

      Regardless of what the actual values were, Eratosthenes went on to become the world’s first geographer, inventing the concepts of latitude and longitude that we still use today, and constructed the first models and maps based on a spherical Earth.

      Although many things were “lost” during the subsequent millenium, neither the idea of a spherical Earth nor the rough knowledge of the Earth’s circumference were one of them. In fact, anyone can perform this same experiment today with two locations at the same longitude, and with simultaneous measurements of shadow lengths, you too can measure the circumference of the Earth! Not bad, considering that the first direct, photographic evidence of the Earth’s curvature would not arrive until 1946!…”

      Hmmm…

    • DISPENSER

      STOP MAKING SENSE! —– Talking Heads

    • Big dog.../small fish...

      259 idiots!

    • Awakenow2

      I just wonder what’s on the other side of this ice wall??????? Are there wildlings?? White walkers??? Giants??? Is it protected by the knights watch???? Is WINTER COMING?!?!?! Guess we’ll find out on season 7 GOT :lol: :lol:
      This just in…. Beyonce really has a flat booty

    • Big dog.../small fish...

      263 – morons!

    • frodo

      Sharing an Amazing New Alternative News Forum. Great place for discussion. We love you cop.
      http://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/

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