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David Icke on the Pre-Christian Gnostics and Archons

Monday, March 20, 2017 17:03
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  • The Real Deal

    It’s reptilian these days!

  • The Real Deal

    Those darn Reptilians. Anyways… Looks like BiN is allowing contributors to delete comments they don’t like, and block the authors of those comments. Apparently the “trolls”. or in other words, their bread and butter, have gotten out of hand and need to be silenced.
    We’ll see how well that plays out. That’s half the reason why people visit stories, is to comment and reply. You start blocking everybody, you’ll have nobody left to click on your articles.
    Yes thoughtful debate is encouraged, but when has anyone ever seen that happen? People love to be right. That’s in almost every comment thread you’ll ever read. They’re almost all the same. Name calling, fighting, threats… This stuff here was tame compared to other forums I’ve been to. As I’m sure many other’s can attest to.

  • VirusGuard

    Nope because David Icke told me that lizards run the earth so why is this ex drug addict now changing his story

    The Real Deal

    See http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/03/the-matrix-revealed-the-breakthrough-3490836.html

    it has a “submit” post button but putting text into the textbox and pressing it does not post nuffin

    • The Real Deal

      Yeah, that’s the point I was trying to make. It wasn’t submitting comments. But it was, for me anyway, not allowing me to submit a comment on certain authors pages. It allowed me to post a comment, hence my previous comment.

  • saucepan

    I’ve been watching his videos on and off for about a year or two now, I really like him.

  • truthseeker4809

    More and more evidence indicates Jesus was a Gnostic teacher. His statement “truth will set you free” is the clear evidence of his Gnostic inclination. Note that there is no such phrase in the old testament. So his god can not be the same as that of the Zionist’s. His teaching is more in line with that of Thoth and Hermes in Egypt and Greece.

    It was the ad hoc interpretation of the disciple Paul(Jewish Levi) that started the faith redemption mumbo jumbo double talk. If faith can redeem your sin, why there are so many prisoners in the US more so than any other countries in the world?

    • Cintus Supremus

      “More and more evidence indicates Jesus was a Gnostic teacher.”

      More and more, you say? There isn’t any now, and there never has been. Gnosticism is antithetical to everything Jesus said, taught and did.

      “His statement “truth will set you free” is the clear evidence of his Gnostic inclination.”

      A bold statement lacking even a pretense at qualification. He said HE is the Truth. He said HE would set the captives free. He is the opposite of Gnosticism – which teaches that salvation comes from within the individual.

      “Note that there is no such phrase in the old testament. So his god can not be the same as that of the Zionist’s.”

      Is this really the quality of your argumentation? No one in the Old Testament said everything Jesus said, so therefore we’re left with different gods? You need a lesson – you need an entire course – in how to think clearly and how to put forth consistent argumentation based on that clear thinking. Your assertion and conclusion is quantum leap into fallaciousness.

      “His teaching is more in line with that of Thoth and Hermes in Egypt and Greece.”

      This is the part where, if you were serious, you would have provided two or three examples of similarities between Christ’s teaching and the teaching of Thoth and Hermes.

      “It was the ad hoc interpretation of the disciple Paul (Jewish Levi)…”

      What is ‘Jewish Levi’ supposed to mean? You mean the tribe? Not even this trivial point have you managed to get right – Paul was from the Tribe of Benjamin.

      “…faith redemption mumbo jumbo double talk.”

      What’s double talk about it? The term ‘double talk’ would indicate you are objecting to certain inconsistencies in the Bible’s narrative of salvation. So? What are the inconsistencies?

      “If faith can redeem your sin…”

      I wonder if you can point to a chapter and verse anywhere in the Bible which supports this strange contention.

      “…why there are so many prisoners in the US more so than any other countries in the world?”

      Again, your non sequiturs and other fallacies are extraordinary – both for their number and their stature. The US is not a godly nation. Therefore, nothing the US government does now or ever has done can rightly be taken as substance with which to blame God.

      You really are a mess, friend.

      • truthseeker4809

        Unfortunately there was a whole branch of gnostic tradition came out right after Jesus’ death. They just became out forced after the state sanction of the faith branch by the Rome. It has nothing to do with the correctness of the interpretation.

        Maybe it is your choice. But the faith branch has been entrenched with fraud and corruption since the beginning. Rome found its great usefulness in enslaving their population.

        After all, faith interpretation was/is the fraud itself. It is a straight path to hell itself because it demands your unconditional obedience which is a complete antithesis to soul freedom.

      • truthseeker4809

        The more serious problem is that faith doesn’t make you healed. It doesn’t work. If you have criminal psychological problem, you are bound to be committed to a mental institution. You don’t get free lunch by something called faith.

        You just have to go through the process of knowing yourself.

        • Cintus Supremus

          “Unfortunately there was a whole branch of gnostic tradition came out right after Jesus’ death.”

          That is when it began. But it became what we know it as today only later – some three to four hundred years later. This does nothing, however, to attach the anti-biblical thinking known as Gnosticism, to either Jesus or the Bible.

          “It has nothing to do with the correctness of the interpretation.”

          We’re not talking about interpretation here. Gnosticism has its own stream of thought, its own teachings and its own writings, completely separate from Jesus and the Bible. Gnosticism has NO meaningful connection with Jesus or with the Bible.

          “But the faith branch has been entrenched with fraud and corruption since the beginning.”

          I have no idea what that means. We have our Scriptures and the Gnostics have theirs. Ours can be proven to be what they claim to be and they can be checked against the earliest known documents any time someone decides to argue that the New Testament Scriptures have been altered over time (which is where I should probably anticipate you going next).

          “Rome found its great usefulness in enslaving their population.”

          Except for the local authority of Pontius Pilate, Rome had exactly nothing to do with Jesus or with the Bible.

          “After all, faith interpretation was/is the fraud itself. It is a straight path to hell itself because it demands your unconditional obedience which is a complete antithesis to soul freedom.”

          This is something only a profound ignorance of the Bible could ever make you say. If you have no idea what the Bible teaches, then you will have no luck ever mounting a credible argument against the Bible.

          “The more serious problem is that faith doesn’t make you healed.”

          Who was it that you think ever claimed we are healed by faith? To your ignorance of the Bible I guess we can add your penchant for creativity in simply imagining what the Bible teaches. An unenviable predicament you find yourself in, friend.

          “You just have to go through the process of knowing yourself.”

          Yes. I’ve heard. That is just what the enemies of God all teach. Know thyself.

          Do you know what God teaches? He councils us to know HIM.

          • truthseeker4809

            I don’t know why knowing yourself is the enemy of god. Obviously your god wants you to be ignorant and a blind slave. I would call that of your god “f*ck you”.

            F*ck your god. I have no need to affiliate any of that nonsense.

            It is the demon that doesn’t want you to know yourself.

          • truthseeker4809

            I don’t think you can know God without knowing yourself. It’s a way too arrogant proposition.

            Knowing yourself is the short cut to knowing God, not the other way around.

            Your demonic god made the world a chaos and battle field that you see it right now.

          • Cintus Supremus

            “I don’t know why knowing yourself is the enemy of god.”

            Because it takes the emphasis off of God and places it on man. It makes for a man-centered life.

            “Obviously your god wants you to be ignorant and a blind slave.”

            My God teaches us to be wise as serpents. He teaches us everything a person can learn about this world. There is no such thing as ignorance among the people of God – at least not among those who follow His instructions accordingly.

            “I would call that of your god “f*ck you”.”

            This is a very, very common error made by many people – people who do not read carefully and who judge God even before considering what He has said. Does that sound like wisdom to you?

            “F*ck your god. I have no need to affiliate any of that nonsense.”

            You are cursing something you are utterly ignorant of. The level of stupidity that takes is somewhat staggering to consider. It is your petulance that makes you suppress your knowledge of God and your arrogance that makes you hate the Bible even without examining the Bible.

            “It is the demon that doesn’t want you to know yourself.”

            First you say this. But then you go on to add:

            “I don’t think you can know God without knowing yourself.”

            You have that exactly backwards, friend. If you would know yourself, the ONLY way to do so properly and effectively is to know GOD first. Men cannot come to know God without at the same coming to know themselves. But trying to know yourself without first coming to know God, will end in failure in all cases. Such is the nature of the world we live in.

            “Knowing yourself is the short cut to knowing God, not the other way around.”

            That is an outrageous statement which presupposes that man is ANYTHING LIKE God. Man is not like God. Man is a mess. Man is chaotic. God is ordered and God is perfect. You do not learn about the ordered by studying the chaotic. You do not learn about the perfect by studying the broken and the diseased.

            “Your demonic god made the world a chaos and battle field that you see it right now.”

            My god is not Satan. You apparently have me confused with someone else.

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            Cintus… :smile:
            Well done.

          • truthseeker4809

            According to your own theory, you are totally imperfect so you do not even have any capability to know your own god. Poor thing..

            Totally imperfect imbecile can not possibility have any ability to know what god is in the first place..

            Your argument is self defeating!!!! But then you may not even know what you are talking about…

          • truthseeker4809

            Gnosticism existed since over 12000 years ago. It didn’t start by the time Jesus died. You have to read the oldest text “Emerald Tablets of Thoth” to be able to see the real truth. Ignorance can not be a substitute for blinded foolishness.

            Bible is a forgery of many different texts existed at the time and as such it is full of contradictions, that’s why it is called mumbo jumbo double talk.

            Tongue in chick nonsense is obvious especially if you go to the fake story of Babel Tower. Human language deviates substantially if the same language speaking people gets separated geographically for 1000s of years.

            Best description of the bible is a Santa Claus fable story for adults.

          • Damien

            Assembled Morons

            Know Thyself … MEANS … Know Thy Place

            It was written over the Temple of Apollo (they got it from the Egyptians) in Greece and had the same purpose as the warnings in the Temple of Jerusalem – telling people that if they went into the wrong courts in the temple they would be killed.

            With time deeper spiritual meanings were read into the admonitions

            ===========

            3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think
            of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. 4 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. 6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your[a] faith; 7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; 8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead,[b] do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

          • Cintus Supremus

            “Your argument is self defeating!!!!”

            My argument? I don’t have one. I argue from the Scriptures. Now, only a fool would suggest that it makes no sense to comprehend the designer before comprehending the design; that it makes no sense to comprehend the world before comprehending those who live in the world; that it makes no sense to comprehend Justice before comprehending lawlessness and injustice. And only a fool would suggest that he can make sense of chaos without first comprehending order. Only a fool, 4809.

            “Gnosticism existed since over 12000 years ago.”

            Well now. That’s a pretty neat trick, considering there aren’t even any known civilizations that old.

            “It didn’t start by the time Jesus died. You have to read the oldest text “Emerald Tablets of Thoth” to be able to see the real truth.”

            I’ve read everything (extant) attributed to Hermes. I’ve read more about Hermes than you have, 4809.

            “Ignorance can not be a substitute for blinded foolishness.”

            Why not? The results are exactly the same. Pay attention and learn how to spell ‘cannot’.

            “Bible is a forgery of many different texts existed at the time and as such it is full of contradictions, that’s why it is called mumbo jumbo double talk.”

            Except you have no idea what you’re talking about, are only parroting garbage written by other fools, and have never even explored the evidence for yourself. But your opinion is expected to be worth something? Why? And 4809 – if you or anyone else can prove that the Bible is a forgery, there’s a 10 thousand dollar prize waiting for you. (And has been for almost a decade now.) That’s because everyone who makes such a claim is a liar, and I like to expose that particular lie wherever I go. You’ll have to try harder.

            “Tongue in chick…”

            You poor, poor soul. We can only wonder what terrible things happened to you as a child that left you oxygen deprived for so long. Cheek, 4809. The term is tongue-in-cheek. Did you ever stop to think what the hell ‘tongue-in-chick’ even means? No. You just heard it (wrongly, I might add) and then repeated what you THOUGHT you heard, without ever once stopping to think about it. That’s exactly what you’re doing right now. And it’s exactly what you do each and every time you open up your mouth to accuse the Word of God. That is no way learn and it is no way to live in this world. Your knowledge (so-called) is all on a par with this sort of thing. You are in error – but you think you know better even than God Himself. Why?

            “Human language deviates substantially if the same language speaking people gets separated geographically for 1000s of years.”

            I’ve had about enough of you. You are barely able to communicate coherently, you are ignorant of the truth and of the facts, and you are beset by a spirit of arrogance and nastiness which makes conversation with you nothing but a chore.

            Carry on, 4809.

    • BungalowBud

      Very poor excuse and unreal. Paul had Christians converthim a after Jesus appeared and scolded him. Till then, Peter had the keys. We got to get this right in these last days ore. Are all goners.

    • The Real Deal

      Great comment! I think you got it right.

  • jknbt

    will somebody be nice and put up a synopsis here? I don’t have 2 hours to spare to listen the the slow unwinding of his philosophy…

    if you want to see a deceptive reptile, look in the genesis account in the garden.

    the reptiles are just the front men for the real enemy behind all of this, the snake god. The greys are the front men for the reptilians. It’s all demonic and straight out of hell, not Zeta Reticuli.

    Gnosticism is just experience based religion. Christianity is bible faith based religion informed by living experience. There is a difference. Jesus is coming back (see Rev 19) and will send these people to a hell they can’t escape from. Take care that you don’t join them in the lake of fire hell.

    There are still gnostic religion & gnostic people out there. There is a gnostic church in Los Angeles. The church of st. john in sweden is made up of gnostics from Iraq who moved there to get away from islamic persecution.

    Gnosticism is deception. Beware.

  • Alana

    Just sharing a new site i found. Loving it so far. Refreshing actually.

    https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/

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