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Churches “Left” flat earth because they had already long ago begun adopting even more basic heresies …….YES the earth is Flat…..But the precursor to that was the doctirnal heresy they got in bed with and even now can’t see it staring them in the face…….the 800 pound gorilla in the room is not the doctrine of flat earth, Flat earth is just a symptom of schizophrenic and demonic thinking…………..
123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies
#1 “ONE” not triune: ……
PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12)
Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is…..IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT !!!!!!!!!!
PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
“WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-6-anti-christ-where-everywhere-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card
JOHN 14: 8-20 where Christ specifically identifies himself (his person as the person of both the father and the HS; the only distinction is in “location” and “method of manifestation” …….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
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Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-1-echadechadmy-godgod-echad-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card
NOTE: don’t be that one in prov 26:12 over my use of the word “fool” here prov 18:13 (https://www.scribd.com/presentation/322007258/Fools ) “But but, the gospel of John…the Gospel of John …look look…” which is quite ironic since the gospel of John does not leave ANY room for multiple different persons of Jesus and father. However the gospel of John does leave a few verses that facilitate God’s promise in 2 Thess 2:11/ Isaiah 66:4 (take note of “HAND” in verse 2,14..You just can’t make this stuff up…God is surely laughing at these fools; Ps 2:1&4)
TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
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- Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
- A Favorite tool for pathological liars is to use incongruent definitions or create oxymorons out of synonyms such as “a person” and “a being” so as to claim that your god is THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS but ONLY ONE BEING: Which is (1) no different then trying to claim that “THREE DIFFERENT CARS” is “THE ONE VEHICLE” (2) blatant demonstration of the dishonesty & sorcery these children of hell will employ with “a strait face” (which is in part what it means to be a pathological liar)
……but, ah i remember how this game is played… “God is three in one” (or 1in 3 or 3in one et al) should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
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#2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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#3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
(1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
(2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
(3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
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Proverbs 6:16
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A PROUD look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.
God loves a humble heart. He brings down the proud of heart.
Why are all the other planets round then?
I mean, I’ve tracked the storm cloud on Jupiter with my own telescope.
Must be some kind of optical illusion by the inner earth people and God trying to trick us?
You must have a better telescope than my Meade because what I see looks nothing like the CGI pictures from NASA. For me it looks like a paisley disc and there isn’t a single planet that i can see enough of to say they are round balls.
ther are COMPOSITE pictures, EXACTLY the same as the pictures taken by your smartphone
they are not CGI
Aperture size ? and I expect it is not a newtonian/Dobsonian, anything below 100cm is pretty useless unless you want to repeat Galileo on Saturn counting moons.
I’ve not really looked into this flat earth stuff, but from what I understand they are trying to say is that it is a optical illusion, due to us using round lenses (eyes) to see with ?
Even those that laugh at the suggestion of a flat Earth, will have spent their entire lives experiencing an Earth that acts like it is flat, at least whilst we are on it.
If the earth is flat does that mean the oceans are spilling over into outer space? And how is it that you can travel due east, around the globe, and end up in the same place you started if the earth was flat? And do you believe they doctored all those pictures of earth taken from satellites too? You people really need to take a course in logic and basic mathematics. Oh… and get a life.
I am trying to figure out the purpose of this disinformation campaign. Anyone with an modicum of logic and common sense knows the earth is round. What is the end goal of spreading this kind of nonsense? I have a hard time even believing these people are serious. I suspect attention whores who were neglected as children.
Andiron,
If you are sure the earth is round, can i see the proof? Because I think all you have is the brainwashing you have been fed since you were a toddlar. You can go to any large lake, look across to the distant shoreline and compare what you see to the Pythagorean Curve Chart. The official story fails when math is applied.
The ocean works even better because you can just follow the waterline to communities 10-20 miles up the coast which should be 66 to 268 feet on the other side of the curve.
“…you can just follow the waterline to communities 10-20 miles up the coast…”
Oh? And why not communities 50 or 100 miles up the coast?
Pollution limits your distance viewing. Terrain, trees, buildings also limit you. You can go to any site advertising vacation rentals and see owners advertising 10-20 mile views across the lake. This kind of distance would be impossible if the earth was shaped like they told you in Fool School.
At least you tried.
But what? The harder question below just gets ignored because you can’t even paper over it with pollution or leafy trees? You can’t even try?
Let that be a problem for you perhaps and induce some actual thinking.
There are already far too many of you.
Let’s see if we can curtail this silliness before it spreads any further.
The North pole is in the very center of the Flat Earth. The Southern boundary is a giant wall of ice that goes araound for 60,000 miles according to every early explorer. Anybody going ‘around the world” is merely traveling in a big circle.
Here is the map. Read the footnotes on the bottom. it says there is NO sun past the 80th parallel which is an impossibility if we are on a ball.
https://collections.leventhalmap.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z
“The North pole is in the very center of the Flat Earth.”
Oh? And with powerful optics, how high must one be in order to see that center from, let us say, Chicago. If I make my observation from the top of Sear’s Tower (or whatever they’re calling it these days) will I be able to see the center of the Earth?
If not, why not. And if not, how high then must I be in order to make such an observation?
If Gleason’s map wasn’t just an azimuthal projection how come Brazilians, Australians and South Africans all see the same southern cross constellation?
Both Brazil and Australia can be in darkness at the same time so they are able to observe the southern night sky simultaneously. Their point of view is almost 180 degrees apart yet they’re looking at the same sky?
This flat earth idea hasn’t been well thought out if you ask me.
“…how come Brazilians, Australians and South Africans all see the same southern cross constellation?”
Cuz the stars are in on the conspiracy, Mayhem.
Stop being silly.
To be clear – “180 degrees apart, according to Gleason,..”
There’s 3 Southern Crosses?
I knew it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuLBhxZUkmU
Meh the religious Flathead tools are out again…
Da ‘Erf ain’t flat and it ain’t round. Da ‘Erf is a huge triangle wif da rich people at da top point and da BINNERS at da bottom. God rings da triangle when it’s time fer da dinner.
What Flat Earth, 911 and Scientology all have in common?
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It’s called LIGO folks. Go to Handford,Washington … take the tour … and watch the Laser prove the earth is round with your own two eyes. Every grade school child taking a field trip tour knows this. Does it occur to those of you who even give this a second thought that an 8 year old is gonna size you up as a special ED graduate?