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Finally: Scientists Prove Earth Is Not a Globe - Checkmate!

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    • Anonymous

      You can go to any coast and see for yourself just looking up and down the beach. Pick a spot that sticks out and it is in “plane”
      sight.
      Congratulations to the real scientists and Boo to the liars who draw a paycheck from the Fool School system and are brainwashing all kids.

      • Liberal HATE

        Can’t argue with flat earth facts but we liberals do! We are so confused…Global Warming BS is a great way for Al Gore and the federal government to TAX all Americans back into Slavery.

        • Jango

          There are some people who will deny truth even when it is irrefutable. They will even deny that 2+2=4. They don’t know what it equals, but they are sure it’s not 4. This is the power of brainwashing as shown in the comments below.

          • wirkbot

            Here is an audio clip from the video (1:20:06 and following). Its is less than 4 minutes. The clip is pepered with great quotes in regard to what is observed in the solar system and how the observations dont fit the “facts”. My favorite “It (the sun) does not coincide with the realities of the facts.”

            Clip is here:

            https://www.instructables.com/files/orig/FDW/VVBV/JFMTL429/FDWVVBVJFMTL429.mp3

            The theories put forth in the video do not adequately explain what is observed on earth and contradict most if not all obsevations of the solar system and universe as well as most astrophysics.

            The speaker actually puts forth the possibility that the moon is part of a different reality. Apparently the moon is a problem for the convex earth theory.

      • Andy

        go to any 10th floor seaside balcony and line up the balcony railing with the ocean – you will see the curvature of the earth with your own eyes

        but instead of doing something so simple even a 5 yr old could manage it, you parrot the ignorance of others

        stick with your fairy-tale religion dude, you simply lack the capacity to handle reality

        • Anonymous

          Andy, what magical balcony are you talking about? It doesn’t wok that way here on the coast.
          Can you refer us to a photo of your 5 year old experiment? You sound like you are maybe 6 or 7 now?

        • wirkbot

          A ship going out to sea disappears over the edge in a very short time as if there is a curve,

        • jack butterfield

          You sir are a liar of the first order! Jack

    • Anonymous

      It is now only a matter of time before the lawyers realize that this is where the big money is and start circling like sharks. Governments have forced all citizens into a giant indoctrination program, making us pay for our own brainwashing. I want my money back with interest! Colleges across the world have been caught perpetrating a giant fraud and their partner in crime is the government.
      Organized religion will be included in the lawsuits. Let the real revolution begin!

      • ReadMatthew7

        Very,

        very, good

        idea Anonymous!

        Any plaintiff volunteers?

        Potentially, the MOTHER of all

        ………. FRAUD CASES !!! ………

        :arrow: 7

      • beLIEve

        Why enrich PARASITIC Lawyers ?

        COMMERCIAL LIENS: A MOST POTENT WEAPON

        The Commercial Lien Strategy – Background
        Faced with corrupt lawyers and judges, no litigant can expect to win in court by simply playing defense. To beat them, you must be able to scare them. You must be able to make them respect you, and that means you must be able to take the offense — attack them personally.

        Unfortunately, judges, lawyers, and other government officials enjoy various levels of personal immunity provided by both law and “professional courtesy.” How do you sue a lawyer for malpractice? You hire another lawyer — if you can find one who’ll take the case. How do you sue an IRS agent for violating your Constitutional rights? Only with great difficulty. How you sue a judge for railroading you in court? You don’t.

        As a practical matter, private citizens can’t sue the President of the United States, a Governor, judge, or even an IRS agent for failing to obey or enforce the laws. If we try to sue in court to compel our government officials to obey the law and perform their lawful duties, the judges routinely ignore our petitions and laugh us out of court.

        Because legal and de facto immunities shield government personnel from being sued for committing crimes against the People, the public is legally disarmed, unable to aggressively sue the government or its agents and compel them to obey the Law. As a result, the public’s legal posture is fundamentally defensive: we try to duck, dodge, and hide in legal loopholes to defend ourselves against the government and the courts. We try to escape, evade, and avoid, but we seldom counter-attack against our antagonists, largely because we think there are no lawful weapons to do so. However, it appears that a powerful offensive legal weapon may now have been discovered, tested, and proven for common Citizens — the commercial lien. We don’t try to sue a government official for failing to perform his lawful duties. Instead, we simply file a lien that encumbers the official’s personal property and credit rating like a ton of bricks until he voluntarily satisfies our demand to perform his lawful duty, and we, in turn, voluntarily agree to excise the lien.

        http://www.mind-trek.com/practicl/comliens.htm

        • beLIEve

          IF…you GO-OGLE the title…..COMMERCIAL LIENS: A MOST POTENT WEAPON…..

          there are more articles, some of which point out pit-falls etc. :smile:

      • No time

        They have also degraded everyone with strong morals to the level of sick sexual deviants. Hence the promotion LGBT and other sick and disgusting perversions.

    • Jango

      Anyone who can do even simple math can easily figure out that it would be impossible to live on a round spinning globe. Math does not lie, and neither does God who created this beautiful world for us to live on. Even the Quaran says that the earth is flat. Wake up people…..you have been lied to. Check out the math here. http://www.itshisstory.com/globe

      • Anonymous

        People who have Satanic claws up their rear ends, refuse to even look at the evidence that is all around them. I am afraid that they are now Satanic disciples with no hope.

        • wheeties

          idiots,nut jobs—-fools paradise,entry is free,talk to any loser above….

      • wheeties

        total nut job like all bible thumpers–flat earthers are flat line mental cases or maybe they spouting bs as a big joke–fools-take up any fast flier like a jet and it is very easy,basic math to tell we live on a globe- flat earther can only afford bus fare being the losers they are

        • Paulp

          I’m no flat earther but if you think those that believe the Bible are fools, what does that make you since you are wrong? You are nust an insulting little prick that thinks is so smart. Sorry man but you are the bigger fool and that is fact kid.

      • wirkbot

        Please provide the simple math.

        • Anonymous

          He can’t provide any math or any science that shows a globe. Just mouth.

        • goeje01

          Watch the documentary you ignorant dumb fuck all the scientific evidence you will ever need is in the film, wow people are friggen stupid

          • wirkbot

            If he does not know the simple math he does not know, Joe. Do you? By the way, with a sextant the charts and a watch (time piece) set to Greenwich time Mariners sailed the globe. You can do it today. Shove off from the British Isles and sail though the Panama Canal. Sail the Pacific. Go south and then around the cape. Up the other side of Africa and Sail back to The British Isles. I believe George Ure did that a few years back.

            • wirkbot

              Take a trip:

              https://www.roadscholar.org/find-an-adventure/22764/road-scholar-world-academy-around-the-world-in-115-days

              “Circumnavigate the globe on an extraordinary 115-day voyage around the world by ship.”

            • Anonymous

              ““Circumnavigate the globe on an extraordinary 115-day voyage around the world by ship.”

              That old lie only worked when people were still fooled by the spinning ball BS.
              Save yourself some money and just climb on a MerrygoRound if going around in circles satisfies you. That is all you are doing.

    • Denway

      Isaiah 40:22 There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth,
      And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers.
      He is stretching out the heavens like a fine gauze,
      And he spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

    • Canderson

      Nuts.
      Oh yeah!
      Why is the Sun spherical and the Moon and every planet in our Solar system also spherical?
      The Earth is a Spherical-ellipsoid it got flattened out areas also, not a perfect Spherical-ellipsoid.

    • Anonymous

      You know these scientists are right when the flack is showing up above the target.

    • wirkbot

      The sun is overhead right now. Shall I call someone in China and ask them if the sun is shining there as well right now.

      • Anonymous

        That Convex Earth video already has 35,000 hits in just a few hours. Looks like someone is going to have to hire a whole lot more disinfo agents to try and ridicule real science with their usual stupidity.

        • wirkbot

          Convex but not flat? Hmmm

          • wirkbot

            So convex its round

      • Mot

        How is it possible for the Moon to be anything other than full when the Sun is in the sky ??? But yet I have seen the Moon as quarter, half,and three quarters during the daytime so even if you think the ball theory is correct then why isn’t the part that’s not lit BLACK ??? And why when I zoom in with a Nikon P-900 camera can I see stars through the moon ??? Hmmmm…..

        • joseph deka

          Youare correct. The same observation from Europw. Half moon and Sun both high in the sky . Impossible not a fully lit moon. The system can not be explained by the critical observer. The sheep will believe anything. Seen foot’s of the moon that some sort of “cover” slides in front of the moon.Why can’t we simply find out the truth!!!

        • wirkbot

          An object is 90 degrees off from the position of the light source relative to the observer = half moon. Simple. try it at home with a lamp and two balls if you have any.

        • wirkbot

          “And why when I zoom in with a Nikon P-900 camera can I see stars through the moon ??? Hmmmm…..”

          I have a telescope powerful enough to see the largest moon of Saturn and I can not see stars through the moon.

          One of us is not telling the truth, liar.

    • Anonymous

      I hope people are noticing that the same BIN posters who have always tried to ridicule Earth shape research are the same pathetic blowhards pushing this Q psyop that has not produced anything but lies since November.

      • Anonymous

        Yup. Both are totally fucktarded. Not sure that’s a word but it fits. :smile:

        • masterofnone

          Bahahahaha…that is the best description of the WHOLE SUBJECT in general….the simple fact that is up for debate

          Is entirely FUCKTARDED…..bahahahahahahah.i love how we hate and wish harm to each other over something so stupid as “flat earth” and “climate change”

    • hansom

      The earth is what you experience it to be.

    • Andy

      what a bunch of flat-earth fuckwits, the same deluded freaks who actually believe man-made fairy-tales are real

      it’s a big conspiracy!!! so very big that they even managed to get the ancient Greeks in on the gag, who not only worked out the earth is a sphere, but also calculated its’ circumference rather accurately

      • Anonymous

        Andy,
        Where do you think the Pythagorean Theorem came from? That is the problem. The math we were taught does not fit what we can see with our own eyes. You have to actually look for yourself though.

      • Paulp

        Andy you need to quit insulting those that believe the Bible. Most Christians don’t go on about flat earth because there is nothing in it about it. The Bible is not fairy tale and only fools or those that don’t know better would think that so you are one of the 2. At this point in your life you don’t deserve to know God. Your attitude towards Him is going to lead you to destruction but you don’t believe that do you? That’s one reason those who have to learn the hard way are fools. I promise you you will beg Jesus to forgive your ignorance but when you see him at the throne judgement you’ll know that at that point there is not nothing even God can do because what it takes is something you must do while you are here. But it’s not anything you have to worry about because you are spook smart huh? Get ready to give a bunch of excuses but know that you’ll have not a one. It will all be on you

    • Is-Be

      OKAY! At 9 minutes in the narrator says they conducted the experiments in the Strait of Gibraltar in FRANCE. HMMMMMM. The Strait of Gibraltar is the waterway between Spain and Morocco and I have been there. I am not sure why they would mess that up so royally.

      • Anonymous

        Is-be,
        Here is a map made in 1892. Enlarge it and I think you will understand reality. Look at France, Spain and the Strait.

        https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z

        • Is-Be

          Thank U! I understand the topography of where they are now. It is too bad that they didn’t specify in the documentary because it is misleading.

    • Anonymous

      Da ‘Erf is a YUGE triangle with all da rich 1% living at da top wif us poor at da bottom. I thought everyone knew dis. :smile:

    • wirkbot

      visualizing the path of an orbiting satellite

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz8etKY_8S0

    • Canderson

      Philosophers Stone you said too much right in a Month? You need to discredit yourself?

    • DJ

      Funny how water is the standard for a level. Perfectly flat and level. The paradigm of lifelong indoctrination is hard to penetrate, but the stars rotate in a circular motion overhead when time lapse photography is used, rather than pass by and reappear later from the other side as they should if we were round and spinning. Planes never have to adjust their trajectory to accommodate a curve, but must stay level. It takes no less time to travel east, than it does west….why is that, if we’re on a globe spinning? The globe solar system paradigm is a stronghold in the minds of humanity. We’ve all been taught that gravity is a “fact” when in fact, it has never been more than a theory to explain how water could possibly “curve” around a globe. The whole issue infuriates people because no one likes feeling duped or hoodwinked. But the rabbit hole is deeper than anyone could possibly imagine.

      • DISPENSER

        So many people are such a special type of stupid, I guess it isn’t really even special anymore.

    • Anonymous

      I’m with the guy who said to call someone in china and see if it’s day or night , case closed.

      • wirkbot

        “Roger That”. And what’s up with Saturn. Rings of Rocks and dust orbiting a flat planet. I think not. Plus you can watch its largest moon orbit with a back yard telescope.

    • TC

      My favorite: The earth is on the back of a turtle.
      OK, so what does the turtle stand on?
      The back of another turtle.
      And what does that stand on.
      The back of another turtle.
      You just don’t understand.
      It’s turtles all the way down.

      • wirkbot

        TC from AO?

    • beLIEve

      Proof That Our World is Not a Moving Globe : Edward Hendrie

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU

      * *

      The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World Is Not a Moving Globe

      Paperback – 17 Jan 2016 by Edward Hendrie

      This BOOK reveals the mother of all conspiracies. It sets forth biblical proof and IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that will cause the scales to fall from your eyes and reveal that the world you thought existed is a myth. The most universally accepted scientific belief today is that the earth is a globe, spinning on its axis at a speed of approximately 1,000 miles per hour at the equator, while at the same time it is orbiting the sun at approximately 66,600 miles per hour. All of this is happening as the sun, in turn, is supposed to be hurtling through the Milky Way galaxy at approximately 500,000 miles per hour. The Milky Way galaxy, itself, is alleged to be racing through space at a speed ranging from 300,000 to 1,340,000 miles per hour. What most people are not told is that the purported spinning, orbiting, and speeding through space has never been proven. In fact, every scientific experiment that has ever been performed to determine the motion of the earth has proven that the earth is stationary. Yet, textbooks ignore the scientific proof that contradicts the myth of a spinning and orbiting globe. Christian schools have been hoodwinked into teaching heliocentrism, despite the clear teaching in the bible that the earth is not a sphere and does not move. This book reveals the evil forces behind the heliocentric deception, and why scientists and the Christian churches have gone along with it.

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-Lie-Earth-Proof-Moving/dp/1943056013

    • masterofnone

      See, we must feel compassion for those that are dead set in their opinionations.
      We should debate subjects, offering to increase and sustain the health and welfare of those around us, regardless of their ideals or religious background.
      We are all human beings,are we not?…well, some of us act like animals, some of us treat each other, worse than animals, but apparently it is easier to ridicule and lay blame.
      I feel sorry for those that are convinced,and refuse to discuss ANYTHING in a healthy manner….
      The solution is simple…use these so called “flat earth” and “climate change” THEORIES as guideline for i.q. testing!…use them as a determination for basic intelligence….once they figure out its too hot,they would have fallen off the face of the earth :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • Wynter Silvermoon

      F’ing idiots and your NSA disinformation psyops. GET A LIFE!!

      • Anonymous

        If you can prove it, I’d sure like to hear the evidence because as it stands, it sounds like you are just showing your moon again.

    • wirkbot

      The Coriolis Effect

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2mec3vgeaI

      An effect whereby a mass moving in a rotating system experiences a force (the Coriolis force ) acting perpendicular to the direction of motion and to the axis of rotation. On the earth, the effect tends to deflect moving objects to the right in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern and is important in the formation of cyclonic weather systems.

      • Anonymous

        Test your Coriolis effect. Toss a rock straight up above your head and stand in place. Let’s see if it falls to the right or comes down on your head. Report back after you wake up.

        • wirkbot

          Oh, A Coriolis doubter. There is a gravity doubter who commented also.

          When I drain water in a sink it swirls the same direction as the hurricanes turn. This is true.

    • MediaMike

      Completely idiotic. I wish everyone could go up 200 miles and look down. Earth is round, just like every mass that exceeds a quintillion tons or so. The thin blue line is awesome, and the motivation for my song Born In AHue Of Blue. Once you know, you can never un-know.

      • Andoron

        MediaMike, you do not even need to go that high. Go to Colorado Springs and stand on top of Pikes Peak. You can even take the COG Railroad up to the top of the mountain. When you stand there you clearly see the earth curving in all directions. A ROUND earth. These people pushing the flat-earth agenda are victims of Jesuit whores who are trying to dumb down society to the point they will be unable to see their chains.
        It’s also why they wage nonstop war on the Bible. The Bible refutes everything these wicked men stand for. Ironically, the Bible teaches the earth is round. Psalm 19 for example talks about the circuit the sun takes around the earth. When you read it in context and look carefully at each words definition. What is being described is a sun that shines its face on a portion of the earth turns. Which is why one side of the earth will have daylight and the other will be dark. Even night and day show clearly a round earth. I’ve talked to my son in Korea and right now it’s 12:41 AM, dark as dark gets; I am sitting in CST 10:42 AM, a bright sunny day.

    • oldspacedog

      I personally don’t care if it’s flat or round. I’m happy and that’s all that counts.

      • masterofnone

        Finally, an actual human being,that acknowledges the shape of the earth,or the radical temperature changes, has absolutly no bearing on day to day life…good for you ol dog!,
        Keep on,keepin on :wink:

        • Anonymous

          You two are a con mans dream!

    • Arse

      Finally, thank you. thank you , thank you is all I wanted to add. Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Now what do we do change NASSA and all maps of earth or are they still going to deny that earth is FLAT FLAT FLAT. NO SPACE IN A CLOSED DOME. Now we are starting to wake up. Thank you dear God. Now all will know the truth of Your Word.

    • wirkbot

      http://griffithobservatory.org/exhibits/centralrotunda_foucaultpendulum.html

      The gently swaying Foucault Pendulum in the W.M. Keck Foundation Central Rotunda has long been a visitor favorite since the building opened in 1935. One of the largest such devices in the world, the fully restored pendulum is actually an elegant scientific instrument which demonstrates the Earth’s rotation.

    • ButtPincher

      Hey BIN.. since at least half of your users are flat earthers.. Me too for 3yrs now.. I think it’s time to get rid of the stupid “space” category. What a waste of time.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe not since every other known planet in the solar system and all of their moons are round. Kind of like the sun and every other star in the universe.

        But da BINNER ‘Erf, she special. She not round.

        BINNERS + Science = plenty of lol’s!!! :smile:

        • Anonymous

          Take a look through a good telescope and then compare it to the crap in a Fool School book that they got from NASA. Not even close.

          • wirkbot

            Please elaborate. I have a telescope and I don’t believe you.

        • wirkbot

          My personal favorite is Jupiter. The big red spot goes round and round due to the rotating of the large spherical planet. The red spot has been continuously observed for 188 years, since 1830.

          http://eyesonthesky.com/Portals/0/Blog%20images/jupiter-triple-transit-animated.gif

    • wirkbot

      Geostationary Satellite:

      There are satellites that orbit the earth that are in a low orbit and take 90 minutes or more to make a complete orbit. The higher the altitude of the orbit the longer one orbit takes until if the orbit is high enough it takes 24 hours for one orbit. If the otbit is eqitorial (around the middle of the sphere) then you end up with a satellite that appears to earth based observation to not move as if hanging on nothing (sky hooks?).

      Anyone with dish / satellite tv knows about this.

    • wirkbot

      Spins like a top…

      If you live above the arctic cirle you know all about having weeks during the summer when the sun does not set. It just apears to move sideways around the horizon while those of us further south still get sun rises and sun sets every day. yep. The earth is sphericle and has a wobble as it spins like a top. Tops wobble to.

    • wirkbot

      I watched the video.

      Experiment 1: The images with the high powered telescope still show the hull of the boat is not visible (Fraud).

      Expeiment 2: The images they can see at great distances are mountains (Fraud).

      Experiment 4: 7.8 meter 95% GPS accuracy (about 30 feet). The researchers are looking for a variance that is smaller than the tollerance (fraud).

      Experiment 5: The hight of the water in the dam would be at the same altitude at any point. Thier experiment is based on a false premis (fraud).

      Due to the fraudelent nature of the above experiments we will not take thier word for it that the math and the exicition of the other experiments are accurate.

      One guy on the video says that we cannot trust what we are seeing through telescopes (all those round planets).

      “Gravity does not exist”. Yet Newton’s formulas work including this one:

      The force of gravity is directly proportional to the product of the two masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance of separation.

      Newtonian physics correctly explains the motion of the round planets around the round sun.

      • wirkbot

        Typo:

        execution of the other experiments…

        • wirkbot

          More.
          According to the video, the earth does not rotate. Therefore it assumes that the sun, stars, and all the planets are moving every 24 hours around us. They admit that the issue with lack of sun sets during part of the year near the poles are unexplained.

          Apparently the observable does not match the theory. You should check out the language for yourself (last 15 minutes). Perhaps the sun does not exist or it is a different reality (I kid you not).

          Earlier in the video we were told that lower altitude satellites move about the somewhat flat surface of the earth like the motion of circling helicopters. Geostationary satellites… Well, they don’t explain how they stay there. Both types, we are told stay up there due primarily to the earth’s magnetic field.

          We also learn that there is an undiscovered continent they are sure exists. They found dust an pollen to prove it (again, I am not kidding).

          • wirkbot

            The helicopter terminology was mine but check out the animation an explanation starting at 1:10:57. By the way, the surface of the flat earth is supposed to be surrounded by a high wall of ice (Antarctica?) so I guess that is why you have to have an undiscovered continent. You would need to explain all the Ice within the arctic circle. There must be a continent beyond all the ice.

            I would like to hear the physics of why there is a high wall of ice around the edges. I sure that would be simple in comparison to how the entire universe moves every 24 hours in relation to the non rotating planet.

      • The Ferrett

        Self deluded bullshit . .

    • liminalmagus

      I’m not here to ridicule, though I am skeptical about the flat, or convex earth model. How do satellites and GPS function in the context of a flat earth? I ask, because I had a colleague who designed satellites (should I presume he is either a liar, or privy to information I am not?) and I have studied areas, such as orbital mechanics, that are employed in the field of aerospace engineering.

      Also, has anyone offered up a comprehensive cosmology that works with a flat earth model? I have seen some material about the flat earth, but none of it was very technical and I’d like to see a direct mathematical exposition elucidating how it functions. Are there any implication of these flat earth theories that can be tested in order to provide empirical data?

      Lastly, I’m guessing there is a tacit aspect of this theory, in which I must assume that there is a massive and pervasive conspiracy to conceal the reality of our world from the public. I’m wondering why this is. Why did some in the ancient world, such as Eratosthenes, determine the earth was round and measure its circumference producing a number similar to the accepted figure today? According to this theory, is the true nature of other planetary bodies also being concealed?

      I ask these questions in earnest, and not to debunk. I’m very curious and would love to receive some edifying explanations on this topic. I have investigated some material independently, but the sources often seem less than reliable.

      • liminalmagus

        Any references to legitimate written sources would be appreciated. I’m probably in the minority, but I don’t like getting my information from videos or documentaries, I prefer to read.

    • wirkbot

      According to the demonstration with the half sphere lens placed over the picture of the convex earth which is supposed to represent the dome of atmosphere over the earth, The day / night cycle is accomplished by the sun moving in a circle over the earth.

      Air makes a poor lens du to having refractive index of only slightly over one as compared to glass with a refractive index of about 1.5. Air could never distort the image of the sun as shown in the demo but even if it could, the sun would need to be extremely close (thousands of miles, not millions). Also the sun would appear so large it would take up a huge portion of the sky at high noon. Perhaps more than half. Last of all the image would be to out of focus and distorted that details like sun spots could not be seen.

    • DISPENSER

      Nope.

    • wirkbot

      Then there lunar eclipses.

      The full moon is on the night side of the globe and the sun is on the day side and the shadow of the earth temporarily covers the moon.

    • wirkbot

      Here is an audio clip from the video (1:20:06 and following). Its is less than 4 minutes. The clip is pepered with great quotes in regard to what is observed in the solar system and how the observations dont fit the “facts”. My favorite “It (the sun) does not coincide with the realities of the facts.”

      Clip is here:

      https://www.instructables.com/files/orig/FDW/VVBV/JFMTL429/FDWVVBVJFMTL429.mp3

      Spread it around.

      The theories put forth in the video do not adequately explain what is observed on earth and contradict most if not all obsevations of the solar system and universe as well as most astrophysics.

      I think their model with the lens over the theoretical earth should have shown what the light source representing the sun was doing to produce the desired results on the map. The sun and the moon would have to be the same size both are circling overhead and both are incredibly close. Then they need to explain somthing as simple as a lunar elipse wuth their model. They can’t. Bases on the obsevation of the moon and it’s movement the speaker concludes that the moon might be part of a different reality.

      • wirkbot

        Perhaps the earth is the center of the universe and the sun, moon, stars, and galaxies move in a circle around a fixed point (north pole / geographic center of the convex earth) every 24 hours.

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