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Why Trump Is Now Toast – It Is Called the Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege

Monday, April 16, 2018 18:12
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[April 16, 2018 - ZurichTimes]

Why Trump is now Toast – it is called The Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege.

Now President Trump is in REAL LEGAL TROUBLE and it looks like the set of Charges and Developments will Stick and he will be Charged with a Host of Charges related to Fraud and Racketeering.

The Judge has denied the request by Michael Cohen to not allow the FBI to go through his Documents and Sean Hannity has been named his 3rd Client and Hannity is denying Cohen was “representing” him in any legal matters. Something is not smelling right here and the folks at CNN are salivating at the prospects.

Judge Andrew Napolitano explains attorney-client privilege

Michael Cohen seeks to protect ‘attorney-client privilege’

The Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege

The attorney-client privilege protects most communications between clients and their lawyers. But, according to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client’s communication to his or her attorney isn’t privileged if they made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud.

Because the attorney-client privilege belongs to the client, the client’s intent determines whether the exception applies. Most courts will apply the exception even if the attorney had no knowledge of, and didn’t participate in, the actual crime or fraud.

The crime-fraud exception applies if:

  • the client was in the process of committing or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act, and
  • the client communicated with the lawyer with the intent to further the crime or fraud, or to cover it up.

Crimes and Frauds

Whether the crime-fraud exception applies depends on the content and context of the communication. The exception covers communications about a variety of crimes and frauds, including (to name just a few):

  • “suborning perjury” (asking an attorney to present testimony she knows is false)
  • destroying or concealing evidence
  • witness tampering, and
  • concealing income or assets.

Example: Walt meets with criminal defense attorney Saul for legal advice and asks about the penalties for cooking and selling meth. Saul explains the penalties, and also explains that profits from illegal drug sales can lead to money laundering charges. The conversation is privileged because Walt merely sought advice about penalties. But the result would be different if Walt asked Saul for advice on hiding or destroying evidence, or how to launder his profits by funneling them through a legitimate business.

Judge denies Cohen’s motion for temporary restraining order

CNN is Celebrating – Sean Hannity: Cohen has never represented me


The Tragedy of this Situation is that it will lead to WAR both domestically and internationally. Once President Trump is removed from Office his Replacement in the form of President Pence will be an absolute disaster for World Peace and a Major Victory for the Zionist ZioCon NeoCon War Monger Faction of the Deep State.

Steve and Alex discussed this topic as well and according to them, Crime-Fraud Exception is Real and Very Serious, and it is all related to North Korea and Syria.

It will be just like Libya after Gaddafi, where we were complainging about one Dictator and after that so-called Dictator was removed the situation thereafter was 10 times worse that before. Libya is now is complete anarchy and has no Official Government, just a bunch of Tribal Leaders and Military Generals vying for control over the nation. And that is what will befall America once President Trump is deposed, whether by Hook or by Crook as the saying goes. Better the Devil you know than the New One who this time might be the Anti-Christ himself.

The Death of Gaddafi

This nation called America is on the verge of falling. And these Signs have all the Leading Indicators of an Empire Collapse Scenario and the Russians know it.

Kislyak’s Take: America Understands It Is Losing World Empire and is Now Striking Back



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  • Canderson

    Are you sure? I think it was a meeting with Ron Jeremy. (They are so in-love with-themselves the 13:th tribe)

    Ron Jeremy on a Wrecking Ball

    • Canderson

      Trump been proven to be a Mongrel of Mongol ties. (Not of me, then I say go to Hell with you.)

    • CUB4DK

      A most interesting message from Rotten Ronny…hehehe…good one Canderson :lol:

  • harry

    I say this is nothing more than a play on words! All correspondence/conversations between attorney and client should be privileged! This judge has opened a can of worms. The bottom line is that you can no longer tell your attorney the truth of any action for fear of being prosecuted via a government intervention. This is a whole new spin on freedom, of which; has now been thrown to the wind. Bye, bye – America.

  • desertspeaks

    you’re reaching like you have rubber arms,.. there must first be a crime, no crime, you’re out of gas on your bs!

  • Anonymous


    IT IS REALLY THAT SIMPLE, SURE IT MAY LOOK LIKE ~ “A DICTATOR MOVE” ~ but W. made the law, & O-BOZO didn’t rescind it, SO IT IS THERE AT PRESIDENT TRUMPS’ DISPOSAL, & since everyone is after him, HE has the right 2 lock these scumbag traitors up, before any possible gig they have in the works comes up, which may lead 2 a variety of things, negatively affecting President Trump…

  • raburgeson

    I see the law being stretched and bent here. From main stream sleaze we get the raid was over the deal with Stormy D. They indicated it was hush money. Any other information they gather under this premise is illegal search and seizure. First off the claim that this is not client privilege is false. Making an out of court settlement that concluded in a contract is a legal case. This is were the law is being bent to the point of breaking. If they use this in a court of law then they are breaking the law. They screwed up big time, they probably did get enough for a racketeering case but now it is illegally obtained and they can no longer use it. This is a heads up because, they do it to regular citizens on a regular basis and it needs to stop. You could be next among the targets of the police state.

  • Detergent

    Interesting that youtube would pull down a clip of Judge Napolitano describing what is and is not “attorney-client privilege”. I watched it and there’s nothing I can see that would come near to violating youtube TOS. Anyhow, the clip can be seen on Fox here:

    • unidentified

      is it too difficult to look up the definition online or does everything need to be spoonfed by ‘experts’

      • Detergent

        It’s worth watching this Napolitano clip because he explains nuances of the law as it applies to the Trump – Cohen matter.

  • Babouche

    HOPE NOT !!

    HE’S YOUR LAST CHANCE FOR FREEDOM !! Fight for him, open your eyes !!

  • Hayduke

    It’s a good thing that Trump never breaks any laws so this should not be a problem.

    :shock: :eek: :lol:

  • Pink Slime

    Liars, er Lawyers make up anything. They make up the laws, so only they can make anything out of it because it’s based on their LIES, er laws.

    What Mueller has done is DESTROY the litigation industry. There is NO TRUST between attorney and client privileges. It’s gone! He has just outed for lawlessness, ironically.

    But that is a Democrap MO. The more you support, the more you put guys like this in the more you are BURNING your country down. And RUBBISH makes the best fire. :twisted:

  • faithbrother

    Under Mueller Rules of Witchhunt .
    Congress should move immediately to Secure all Of Barrack Obamas presidential correspondence.
    We wouldn’t want these jackals to use bleach bit or Fire for scouring all The Former Whitehouse
    Communications and directions to ,DOJ and FBI. After all Nothing is off limits in pursuit of Truth .

  • Cinders777

    Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about this whore?

    I’d bet the “hush money” was actually money paid for services rendered – and that’s it.

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