Christian Singer Walks Out on Grammys After ‘Satanic’ Performances
Christian Singer Walks Out on Grammys After ‘Satanic’ Performances
According to InfoWars “Grant, who was nominated for two Grammys last night, tweeted her excitement upon arriving at the event but soon made it clear that she left early because what she witnessed conflicted with her Christian beliefs, stating.”
(1 of 2) We left the Grammy’s early. I’ve many thoughts, most of which are probably better left inside my head. But I’ll say this: — Natalie Grant (@NatalieGrant) January 27, 2014
I’ve never been more honored to sing about Jesus and for Jesus. And I’ve never been more sure of the path I’ve chosen. — Natalie Grant (@NatalieGrant) January 27, 2014
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What is very sad is that the singers and bands advertising have already sold there souls to Lucifer for fame and fortune. All we can do is pray for them!
Oh look, another simple-minded christian “artist” who allows silly superstitions to rule her life. How quaint.
One day, soon, when your soul is ripped apart over-and-over; when it is charred beyond recognition every second you scream from mind-bending agony; when the ‘veil of belief’ is lifted and you actually are shown the truth after you have blatantly failed the test, when there is no more ‘belief’ required, simply knowledge of how damned you are, and how your torment will not end – tell us:
Do you think begging for forgiveness, mercy or help is going to get you anywhere then?
Think it’s a fantasy now? What happens later when you find out it isn’t – and that you never even tried to understand if it could be real, when you might have the chance to do something about it to stop it.
lol – dustdevil..
you cant scare people with a dragon, if they dont believe in dragons. youll have to try harder.
no such thing as god.. google it. its true.
It is said, that the Devil deceive us, by making us believe that he doesn’t exist!
Look at Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan & even you District of Criminals.
I can hear the devil laughing!
LOL dustdevil
Typical “fire and brimstone” passive aggressive vindictiveness that comes from “believers” who are irritated that their dogma has been challenged.
In lieu of actual thinking, they smugly and happily assure themselves that their god will get back at us for upsetting them.
Tell me, was your whorish mother too drunk all the time to teach you proper manners?
Hmmm… folks conveniently forget that being sentenced to Hell has NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD… BUT YOU.
Huh? Yep… God created Hell as a prison for Satan and his fallen Angels. So, speaking of IGNORANCE… quit drinking the witchy brew and grow a brain stem.
God loves you sooooo much, He is even willing to let you HATE & REJECT HIM & HIS SON, Jesus Christ. Say what? Satan is all about CONTROL… GOD is about FREEDOM.
If you wake up in the bright, song-filled, living world of Heaven… then you CHOSE to love God & accepted Jesus Christ (His Son) to save & HEAL your soul with a grateful heart. And you wanted to be CLOSE to the Heart of God FOREVER… which is also called Heaven.
If you wake up in the dark, silent, dying world of flames and agony called Hell… then you CHOSE to REJECT God & Jesus Christ. You chose to let another “god” save you. YOU CHOSE to be as FAR AWAY FROM GOD AS POSSIBLE… Wish Granted… It’s called Hell. God is NOT There.
So, stop your whining, insulting and destroy your own lives, if you wish. As a Christian, I want to see you in Heaven to become everything you were meant to be. I am sorry the Churches on Earth ARE SO SCREWED UP… but that’s man’s fault… DON’T BLAME GOD or JESUS for that! Men & Women chose to reject God in the church… and now many corrupt churches are HURTING GOOD FOLKS like you… NOT GOD… NOT JESUS… BUT EVIL HUMANS.
I won’t preach to you. You wouldn’t listen anyhow… you are too smart, aren’t ya? Well, trust me, remember me when your trip thru Satan world destroys every good thing in your life. Remember… EVEN THEN… God & Jesus await to forgive, heal, restore and bring you home because they love you soooo much. -I Know What I’m Talking About… Good Luck.
This comment is psychotic, in that you blind believers believe there is a “loving” and “forgiving” god person who would allow anyone who dares to question “his” existence to be so hideously punished.. Obviously, we reject such an ugly concept, so this threat doesn’t scare us. Manners?
Why would the “omnipotent” Jesus and “His Father” be so threatened by our unbelief? Did “He/They” not provide us with intelligence? Yet, “He” wishes us to spit on “His” gift and not use it? Asinine.
one of the misfit rugrat gang. die infidel die
There is an admonition in the New Testament, Heart of Winter, not to cast pearls before pigs. It is apparent that your heart is closed. I have nothing to say to you. There is also a admonition to Christians NOT to pray for those who have committed the sin unto death. I will not pray for you. The Lord, not I, rebuke you.
It’s called standing up for your beliefs. Maybe you’ve heard of it, and apparently you’ve never been brave enough to do it. Funny, that a little Christian woman is braver than you, it’s not surprising though.
Google the authority on Gods existence ….what a joke! From a God encountered Christian, your in big trouble.
@Intelharvest you’re right, I bet it does take “bravery” to stand up and assert your belief that a 2000 year old collection of Middle Eastern fables is absolute truth, despite the fact that every bit of common sense and knowledge we have in the modern age says otherwise. I would call it stupidity, but if it’s “bravery” to you, have at it. lol
@JiminAZ you have nothing to say to me, and you won’t pray for me? I’m crushed.
@Heart of Winter
Even you COWARDLY MORONS know that G-D is NOT a superstition!!!
I LOVE how Tough, Intelligent and Gifted you Anti-Christ types ACT!!!
But you’re just Cowards – worse than Whores and Prostitutes who most only do so in the name of Survival. Thugs (“B1tch’s” in Prison Lingo) like yourself – sell your own Azz to be cool – to have your name mentioned in some paper or put on a Plaque. There are really only two types of “Anti-Christ” in the World. The actual Fallen Ones – who, though CREATED Brilliant, sold themselves to do evil. And then there are Whores, like youself, who is to Stupid to know/understand what is coming to the Losing side. And you’re on the losing side! G-D wins in the end – EVERYBODY, even the Rebellious (Fallen) Angels know that!!!
Good Luck playing their game. You’re only being used!!!
Draw yourself a line and have a seyonce around that – Satans Whore!!!
So now I’m a “rebellious fallen angel”? Well, I’m not, but I guess it’s flattering that you think I’m some kind of powerful, supernatural being just because I’m intelligent and possess basic logical reasoning and critical thinking skills.
You LOVE how tough, intelligent, and gifted we “anti-christ” types act? That’s funny because I love how primitive, inarticulate, and ignorant you bible-thumpers act. Honestly, it is a great source of amusement for me.
BTW what is a “seyonce”? Did you mean to say “seance”? And no, I won’t be conducting any seance because I don’t practice such silly superstitious rituals.
Let’s put it this way, Natalie Grant did the classy thing. What she saw offended her and she walked out. She could’ve thrown a fit and started a riot and then tweeted some cuss words and slams, but she didn’t. She maintained her dignity. And hey, people DO have the right to walk out when they don’t like something. Same thing if you were in her shoes and the roles were reversed…what if a preacher got up on stage and said some stuff that offended you? Wouldn’t you walk out and get away from the noise??
I don’t like people forcing their opinions/beliefs/ways of life down my throat any more than you do. Let’s try and remember that. Everyone has the right to just walk away and do their own thing…even if you don’t agree with it. I probably don’t agree with you way of life, but hey, you have the right to do what you want…and so does Natalie Grant…even if you think she’s bad/wrong/stupid or something.
Bottom line- live and let live. Don’t get so wound up if someone wants to live differently than you do, even if you think what they’re doing is the dumbest thing you’ve ever seen. We all have a right to be “dumb”.
Oh good, all of the losers dusted off their multiple accounts so they can negatively downgrade people’s responses. What losers. You must be at the apex of your and this is the best it gets when your sole purpose is to have multiple troll accounts to negatively vote down comments on beforeitsnews just to have the pretend appearance that you’re in the majority. What a meaningless existence you have.
Oh look another cult follower of SET. And when the rest of mankind leaps forward, we’ll look back to see what fate you suffered, and we’ll say “EWH…He ATE them”.
O Ye of Little Faith.
One need not fully understand the origin or identity of the designer to determine that an object was designed. Christianity postulates the religious answer to this question that the designer is God who by definition is eternally existent and has no known origin.
Certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
There are only two possibilities as to how life arose. One is spontaneous generation arising to evolution; the other is a supernatural creative act of God. There is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation, that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That leaves us with the only possible conclusion that life arose as a supernatural creative act of God.
You will not accept that philosophically because you do not want to believe in God. Therefore, you choose to believe in that which you know is scientifically impossible; spontaneous generation arising to evolution.
Why?
I am so sorry, blonde female singer!
But, I am gay!
I mean, look at the facts in your holy “Human Male written “Book of Babble”!
I hung out with 12 guys.
I NEVER had a “girlfriend”.
I brought a MALE back to life, NOT a female!
On my final night out, I had a dinner party and “Hung out with the Boys”! girls were NOT invited!
I did NOT honor my mother. I deserted her!
I NEVER worked a day in my life! I “mooched” off of others!
So, STOP worshiping me, girl!
It will get you no where, as I have made a decision as to WHO will be my “Holy Receptacle” for my “Pleasure Goo” FOR ALL OF eternity!
AND, THE WINNER IS…………….not some blonde female “babe”, but BEEF SUPREME, who “lets it all hang out” right here on BIN!
YOU ARE #1, beefy boy!
SPAM SUPREME is #1!
And, my “male b__ch” for ALL of eternity!
You need help
TURN YOURSELF IN TO THE LUNATIC BIN, Troll Patrol, you ‘religious CRACK POT!
For, YOU ARE THE ENEMY – the despicable and violent chris SCUM dumb who has “infected” BIN!
THE DAY WILL NEVER COME That I get on my knees to a white-skinned male spiritual TERRORIST DICTATOR, you crazy off balance LUNATIC for a male white-skinned “god” that EVERYONE IS COMMANDED by your all male written Book of Human BABBLE, YOU idiot named troll patrol! YOU ARE THE TROLL, IDIOT in HELL!
Hey, what is that picture in your avatar, your “Fairy” god playing football in his tutu?
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Or, IS THAT YOU troll patrol?
I’m going to make a huge public apology to all the gays once they preform this one little thing. Gays on 1 island, lezbo’s on another. In using your own tools and not those of the opposite sex, or science…when you reproduce…prove Nature wrong…I’ll apologize.
This comment is for Universal Sign, Black Hole and Heart of Winter. You have only proven here by what you have said that what is written in the Holy word of God is truth. He foretold there would be people like you in the end days.
2 Timothy 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Do you honestly think that because you choose not to believe then it is not so? How foolish.
God is Loving, Merciful and Long Suffering. He is also Holy and full of Righteous Judgement. While he loves you more than you could possible conceive the decision to accept or reject him is entirely yours.
@ Heart of Winter (aka Einstein)
“just because I’m intelligent and possess basic logical reasoning and critical thinking skills.”
Yes, of course!!! Romans 1 speaks to your self-ascribed “Logic and Critical Thinking Skills” – Your DELUDED kind are EXACTLY whom Paul, speaking in the Spirit was reffering to:
Romans 1:22
Although they claimed to be wise (Like you in the quote above), they became fools (This is G-ds genteel way of calling you, and your ilk – “STUPID”).
“Logic and “Critical Thinking” – Trully NOT to be ascribed to you – tells us all that – “I’ve never seen a monkey (Or other animal or Fish) turn (Evolve) into anything, my parents and grandparents have never seen a monkey (Or other animal or Fish) turn (Evolve) into anything – more or less than what they began as – therefore – it is LOGICAL to deduce that MAN “Did Not” Evolve from Monkey’s and/or Fish”.
THAT’s LOGIC!!! That’s CRITICAL THINKING!!!
(Cont’d)
@ Heart of Winter (aka Einstein) Part Deu (2)
What G-d IS – Is the ULTIMATE, The ABSOLUTE, The QUINTESSENTIAL SCIENTIST!!! He IS (Why He reffered to Himself as “I AM” to the Israelites) the ONLY SCIENTIST capable of BRINGING FORTH from NAUGHT. When a SIMPLETON (Like you or myself) fumble around inside of our Playroom and somehow manage to build a Super Computer from spare Bicycle and LawnMower Parts – and Rush Out to proclaim to the World – “LOOK WHAT I WAS ABLE TO CREATE WITH MY GRAND LOGIC AND CRITICAL THINKING SKILLs” – some Trully Logical Person would be RIGHT to ACCURATELY Proclaim – “You DID NOT CREATE ANYTHING – You only accomplished putting together a Logically Functioning Contraption from Materials PreProduced from other Materials that were INDEED CREATED by an AWESOME G-D!!!”
(Cont’d)
@ Heart of Winter (aka Einstein) Part Trois (3)
A Trully Logical and Critically Thinking Being, One who is Honost, Lacking Not in Integrity – no matter the Science or Method – will always arrive at the ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION – THAT A MIGHTY CREATOR G-D, A PERFECT POWERFUL, INTELLIGENT, INCORRUPTABLE, HOLY MAGNIFICIENT BEING – BROUGHT FORTH AND CONTINUES TO BRING FORTH LIFE FROM WITHOUT!!!
Logic, Critical Thinking and Deductive Reasoning continues to inform the trully Astute that this BEING can only be He who refferes to himself as “I AM”. G-D!!!
The Bible – when read OBJECTIVELY from Cover to Cover and when fully understood sets forth the Defining Charachteristics of this BEING. It WHOLEY OUTLINES the PURPOSE/PLAN OF LIFE/CREATION. It tells us the WHO, THE WHAT, THE WHEN, THE WHERE and THE WHY!!!
(Cont’d)
@ Heart of Winter (aka Einstein) Part IV (4)
In Genesis 22 G-d required Abraham to Sacrifice His Only (TRUE) SON ISAAC on a Mountain in a NEW LAND some 3 days journey from the tent he was living in. WHY?! So that when – OVER 2000 Years later a MAN CLAIMING to be the Only True SON (HEIR APPARENT) of that G-D – the same MESSIAH PROPHESIED throughout the many scriptures Predating his Birth and Death – so that WHEN he was SACRIFICIED on THAT EXACT SAME MOUNTAIN – again, TWO THOUSAND YEARS AFTER ABRAHAM and ISAAC – IT WAS SO THAT THE “TRULLY” LOGICAL, CRITICALLY THINKING and DEDUCTIVE REASONERS amoung us might conclude that THE BOOKS ARE REAL!!! THE WORD IS TRUE!!! ONLY G-D CAN DO THAT!!!
“HE IS”
(Cont’d)
@Heart of Winter (aka Einstein) Part Bes’ (5)
And THEREFORE it is likewise LOGICAL to DEDUCE – that HIS RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT AGAINST and FOR all CREATION – AND IN THE INTEREST OF RIGHTOUSNESS (AS OPPOSED TO WRONGNESS and INJUSTICE) WILL STAND IN THE END!!!!
REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU, OR HITLER, OR FREUD, OR PLATO, OR ARISTOTLE, OR HERODOTUS, OR AKINATEN, OR BACON, OR GILGEMESH, OR SENNACHERIB, OR DARWIN, OR YOUR MOTHER, OR YOUR FATHER, OR VIRGIL, OR KING NINUS, OR JOSEPHUS, OR BLAVATSKY, OR NERO, OR GOETHE, OR QUEEN ELISEBETH OR HER EVIL SISTER MARY THOUGHT OR THINK!!!
We (All Men) are wholly CREATED in the IMAGE (HAVING LIFE) OF G-D!!! UNLIKE G-D – WE ARE CORRUPTABLE (CHOICE – BECAUSE G-D IS NOT A TYRANT – HE COULD “MAKE/FORCE” YOU TO ACCEPT/WORSHIP HIM [He's G-D] – BUT HE CHOSE TO ALLOW YOU TO CHOOSE).
JESUS (Or DEATH) is YOUR CHOICE!!!
By ACCEPTING – YOU’RE NOT COWING TO G-D!!! YOU ARE ONLY ACKNOWLEGING HIS VAST SUPERIORITY and ADMITTING IN HUMBLE SUBMISSION – THAT – YOU ARE NOT AND CAN NEVER BE – HIM!!!
@ Heart of Winter (aka Einstein) Part P.S. (Post Script)
In the “Image of G-d” = “Having LOGIC, CRITICAL THINKING and DEDUCTIVE REASONING skills”. You have those SKILLS because – and only Because you have “CHOICE”. Without CHOICE – you would not have had need of Logic, Critical Thinking and/or Deductive Reasoning Skills. You would have been a Robot/Droid!!!
What is a Ship Captains Worst Nightmare?! (Well, aside from Storms, Iceburgs, Enemy Sub’s and the like)
Correct Answer: Mutiny/Rebellion (Think: The Devil)
A Ship Captains 1st Concern – aside from the Integrity of his Vessel itself – is the Allegience and Integrity of his men/crew! He CAN MAKE NO EXCEPTIONS for a possible TRAITOR – or the ship risks never making destination.
G-d has given His possible Crew CHOICE.
Life – in this World – is a Test for Integrity!!!
He’s already suffered Mutiny (The Rebel – Lucifer).
Now we have the Choice to Join the Mutiny!!! Or accept (In Humility and Awe of His Superiority/Greatness) our Captain!!!
G-d is the Capt
Once again… look at “Universal Sign’s” use of “caps” and the rest. Same “MO” as:
Black Hole,
Plain Jane.
A SHILL.
Aahhh… The Horror… The Horror….
Look at the gagging repeated “Anonymous” comments, posted, in defense of what?
I ask you all, … for what?
Uni-Sigh, “parasite dot ORC”, “Anonymous,” Hole of Black, Jane Plain, and other avatars, whether one person, or a few, have one thing in common. A reverent passion for ill influence through , lies, deception, dishonesty and revulsion.
This is the description of demonic influence.
Once again… look at “Universal Sign’s” use of “caps” and the rest. Same “MO” as:
Black Hole,
Plain Jane.
A SHILL.
Aahhh… The Horror… The Horror….
I liked Katie’s elmo video better
Another TALMUDIC Ritual for the demons that the music PRODUCERS of Hollywood worship. The performers are just a bunch of MK ultra props who will do anything for fame and fortune. The real target were all the new meat puppets that were watching and whom the luciferians are actively recruiting. Kabbala = control of demons. Just like Solomon did in all the fables of the Talmudic swine.
EXACTLY !!!
Brilliant!!!
Good on you. For my and my house we will serve the goodness and we will serve God and His son Jesus whom will come back one day. Folks, we are living on borrowed time…
Horus
Attis of Phrygia
Zoroaster/Zarathustra
Glycon
Heracles
Dionysus
Romulus
Odysseus< 31
Krishna
Buddha
Horus and his mother
and his mother
Attis of Phrygia and his mother
Zoroaster/Zarathustra and his mother
Glycon
Heracles and his mother
Dionysus and his mother
Romulus and his mother
Odysseus< 31
Krishna and his mother
Buddha and his mother
You have a point?
I think you made it better actually… do you have one>> of course you do… but not with me, right… hohoho…
Alan
My point is that I, unlike you, have the facts: humanity (see above). What do you have?
i can’t see the problem here, since neither god nor lucifer exist,
except in the minds of some cerebrally-challenged individuals.
Evolution is a fact in the minds of cerebrally-challenged individuals. For those who seek truth and not fairy tales of transforming monkeys, there’s the Bible.
When does God stop being God, exactly… do you think she gets the point, like theres 3 of em,.. its ambiguous as always, you know me aye
This is why I ignore the music industry. State a Christian belief and watch the cockroaches come out to do their master’s bidding. I’m only surprised that a Christian would be surprised that the Grammys are involved in such ritual. I tuned in for a few moments, saw the singer in the egg, and knew immediately that they were doing it again. At least Natalie recognized what was happening. I bet a lot of people never did.
Just a love song with a little theatrical witchiness. Nothing to get your undies in a bunch about.
Correct, but as you can see it is a favorite pastime for christians to jump at their own shadows.
From a preachers daughter to Satan’s witch.
Natalie Who???
Bravo Natalie Grant, shows your head and heart are in great shape and right place. For those to blind to see the satanic signs, and not know they are part of an agenda from the beginning of time there is no hope. For those that believe not in a God there is hope but with all the goings on in the world, and considering the age to comment here it appears slim. For those that use google as a source rather then your God given gifts I hope you find your way from google (CIA) another satanic piece of garbage. Many have vision and cannot see, view have vision and see. some are blind and have vision. Let the light decide where you are.
most people believe and have believed in ‘A God’, so that is obviously not THE ANSWER.
Issue always at hand (thru history) WHO/which God, the Solar Deity or the One against that?
There is only one Being who is prayed to who is AGAINST THE SOLAR DEITY’S WORSHIP.
And with His Word, who is the first created, first born of creation, the Messiah, of the bible:
‘
Not Horus, Tammuz, Dumuzi, Her, Dionysus, Bacchus, Ninus, Mithra, Adonis, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Krishna, Christos, which are all Solar Deity religion pure and simple –
none of those you should hold to or conform to that belief system if you BELIEVE the bible to be the truth and the authority, as well as we can confirm everything, most things in the bible are the truth per history and as borne out in prophecies –
but Yahuweh (IAUE, the Father Creator in the Bible) with HIS WORD/MESSIAH/SON/servant
CO-CREATOR, who carries the Father’s name in his name, which he taught to his disciples to do, angering the Rabbis who did not want the people to know or use the Name of IAUE/YHWH/Yahweh.
Or, Yahushua, for that matter. They wanted as now, the priesthood does, to keep the Sacred name under wraps, for their own evil purposes.
So the lady was indeed right to leave, but she never should have believed her priests in the first place, in the face of all the facts, their lies that Jesus is ‘the saviour’ of the bible, for he is obviously the Solar deity baby in every detail and in every practice. She is mistaken if she continues to believe that lie which will eventually lead to her death, perhaps eternal.
Pure Solar Deity worship: Christians come out of your churches and into the truth.
Sorry, but a REAL Christian performer would not be caught anywhere near that garbage event.
I have not watched any of these self-congratulatory “Entertainment” events since I became aware of what they were.
These events have always been pathetic and evil since day one and have slowly boiled the minds of its audience into accepting every increasing depths of depravity. Things that have nothing to do with awarding talent.
I no longer support the Olympics. I’d rather re-drywall a room, or service home appliances during the time they are on. Same reason, it is not the sports, stupid.
I no longer support any professional sports teams; I’d rather go for a long walk during the big game.
It is all designed to eat away your mind, change and reprogram your consciousness into a pliable, sheep like follower of Lucifer.
Glad to hear it.
You do know who Ahura Mazda is then?
That’s the name of a big time player on the OTHER team.
You do know who Ahura Mazda is then?
Yes. He is an obscure God, no longer worshipped, but a good guy in his time. It gave me the chance to use the “Space” picture, which I liked. Good catch on your part.
Definition:
Ahura Mazda, the Iranian sky god, the Wise Lord or Lord Wisdom, and god of order, depicted as a bearded man on a winged disk, was the principal god of the ancient Zoroastrians. He was one of the Indo-Iranian spiritual lords who also included Mithra and Varuna. Achaemenid Persians worshiped him as Ahuramazda, giver of kingship. Later dynasties worshiped him as a perfect and omniscient spirit. He came to be depicted in human form. In relief sculptures you will see an image of him handing a large ring, a symbol of divinely-granted power, to the Persian king.
Ahura Mazda’s chief rival is Angra Mainyu (Ahrimen), creator of evil. Daevas are other followers of evil.
Ahura Mazda is the creator of sky, water, earth, plants, animals, and fire. He upholds asa (rightness, truth). Persian Kings believed Ahura Mazda to be their special protector and equated him with Zeus. He was also equated with the gods Yahweh and Bel.
Mazda,
Let me tell you a secret:
When the Enemy is explaining his version of the Heavens and the Earth, and he tells us about the bad guys AND the good…
…the secret is…
…they’re ALL bad guys.
Osiris
Horus
Mithras
Hermes
Zeus
Amun Ra
Attis
Apis
Buddha
Krishna
Brahma
Vishnu
and Ahura Mazda…
…all Ba’alim.
All bad.
We’re not supposed to utter their names. I would think twice about naming myself after any of them.
I am a sinner, in the eyes of Christianity, but I am NOT Christian. (or member of any other faith.)
I cannot be a Christian or a member of any other Religious organization, because I believe that if I sit on the fence on any issues, that I do not work hard at following the rules of the organization, I cannot call myself Christian. That is why I left the Church roughly 35 years ago.
I WILL defend the right of Christians to believe Christian teaching’s, even those who like me are imperfect, but still choose to call themselves Christians.
From my perspective that is why calling myself Ahura Madza, was not any different than calling myself “Peter Rabbit” and having a picture of “carrots” for an ID photo. Someone may have found issue with that name as well.
So, BEEF SUPREME, my choice of name is just The Tao.
I’m not a Christian either.
Be that as it may, I believe in every single word written in Scripture.
Being a seeker after the Way of the Holy One of Israel doesn’t mean subscribing to any religion or being a member of any church. The Body of Messiah is not a ‘church.’
But from the scriptural (biblical) perspective, the Ba’alim are identified as well as named. They are real — a fact which will become all-too-apparent in the not-too-distant future.
The Tao is (again, from the biblical perspective) a manifestation of another ancient way, which the initiates into the Mysteries seek to follow and to master. Initiates into the Mysteries all have great respect for Zoroaster and Ahura Mazda, not to mention the myriad other entities they classify as deities or ‘ascended masters.’ Albert Pike spent a great deal of time expounding his knowledge of Mazda and Zoroastrianism in the latter degrees of Morals and Dogma. You can get your hands on a genuine copy of that book these days. Freemasons have given up trying to curtail its proliferation into the hands of the ‘profane.’ They figure it’s not worth the effort any more, considering that the book is so large and so ‘advanced’ (their term) that even if it does fall into profane hands, the ‘rabble’ aren’t likely to actually READ it anyway. The instant I heard that, I procured my copy immediately. There are copies available for purchase on both Amazon and Ebay. It’s well worth the read, considering that it is a veiled attack on the Scriptures, and a none-too-veiled advertisement for the Mysteries. As to Peter Rabbit… I haven’t studied him yet, so I will decline to comment about him at this time.
This “conversation” is like listening to two pre-puberty teen age boys “talk” about “Professional Wrestling”!
“Well, ya, I do not think it is real”, said Beef Supreme.
“It is not real like baseball is”, said Beef Supreme.
“I am NOT a Fan of the WWE or Professional Wrestling, because it is not real”, said Beef Supreme.
And the beefy boy and his “friend” proceed to talk in GREAT DETAIL about all the characters, and the violence that is IN Professional Wrestling!
They are FANS!
They KNOW IT BETTER THAN THE FANS!
They are completely ‘fixated” on it, although they are NOT fans of Professional Wrestling!
Beefy runs right out to “secure” his copy of another Book of Babble, which he says “imitates his WWE Wrestling league”!
And he wastes his time “reading and studying it”!
Beef, one would have to be a real stupid member of chris Scum Dumb to think that YOU, a VERY CONFUSED individual, would bring ANY VALUE OR KNOWLEDGE AT ALL to the table during a “rational discussion”!
YOU ARE an intellectual “retard”, who “believes” in ancient “comic book heroes” that are going to “Save you” from ………. FROM WHAT, BEEFY BOY?
Indeed, you are psychotic in every way, shape, and form!
Must be frustrating as hell NOT to able to impose yourself on others, like in the “good old days”, eh, beef?
That IS why you waste SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME HERE, on BIN!
Hey, SPAM SUPREME, it’s “milk and cookies’ time! SO, IT WAS WRITTEN (by your Mom)!
HAHAHAHAHA!
A mind is a terrible thing to waste… In your case it must have been necessary.
Being that Exorcism is on the rise, I’m curious as to why you still poke your head up around here.
Uni-Sigh, Black Hole & “Anonymous” (+ others) are one in the same. One large crap head with several outlets.
Plain & simple.
What a boring life, just to continually change account names, only to press the little “green & red” arrows, giving him false support.
Pathetic is the only word.
In fact, there are many who argue that Lucifer and Ahura Mazda are one in the same
2 Corinthians 11:14: “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
You are right. Stay away from it all. Never watch or participate in this mass hypnotic ritual events like the grammy awards or the superbowl etc. Even the commercials are insidiously satanic.
the Olympics are in a category all by themselves, so overt it is vile and a wondrous miracle of black magic that all accept this as we all have… for so long. the grammy’s and superbowl are small compared to the Olympics, that is on the worldwide stage/scale, the entire world buys into that religion of Zeus.
(or Ahura Mazda, or any other solar deity worshipped by the world thru history)
Ahura Madza is just a pen name, nothing more. It does not make me any more evil than to call myself superman, or some other fantasy being.
To be fair – I would’ve just walked out because it was Katy Perry.
The shock and awe Satan crap is getting more attention each “show” so they do more and more because some where people are thinking its “cool” really its just stupid and I can not believe those people do not have the nerve to say they wont do stuff like this for the world to see. Sadly the more it happens the more young people start copying it.
“The System’s a Con Comprised by Deception,
Works by Altering the Public’s Perception
Of All that Formulates Life as Normal,
Repetitive Speeches by Economists, Formal,
Our Raison d’être is to Work and Compete
With Nations like China or Suffer Defeat,
Perfected Indoctrination is a Reality,
We All Get it, It’s a Lifelong Formality,
Education Ensures that Logic will Fall,
Conforming You into a Brick in The Wall”
© Alan Watt Sept. 19, 2013
you get to choose your own destiny and live with the results.
Proof the Bible is in fact GODs word, everything is just as he says, plain as day to those who have accepted him, he gives his Spirit, and the veil is rent, then you can see clearly and you would know what I’m talking about But you are loved greatly, but Satan wants you just the same, you have the right of freedom of choice, that’s a fact, but really are you so smart you are dumb! Money is your god and Satans tool to wrap you up, look on the dollar bill, it doesn’t say who that god is, and with all that money no-one has bought himself escape from the grave, but many have tried, but only failed! Fear the GOD who holds the keys to the bottomless pit, can’t you feel it? Repent!!
The devil has already lost he is just to stupid to know it.
@JiminAZ
”There is an admonition in the New Testament, Heart of Winter, not to cast pearls before pigs. It is apparent that your heart is closed. I have nothing to say to you. There is also a admonition to Christians NOT to pray for those who have committed the sin unto death. I will not pray for you. The Lord, not I, rebuke you.”
What an Outstanding Comment?!
:)
That’s a Full Court 3 Pointer!!!
Christians – 3
Numb-Nutted Nazi Troll’s (And Sympthiizers) – 0
Amen!!!
You forgot one thing – the extra point:
“IN JESUS HOLY NAME”!!!
Amen?!!!
You all do understand that the only reason the Nazi Troll’s scoure the net to harass folks is – well, besides not having jobs – they run out of their Viagra prescriptions and are thus forced to seek out alternative ways to vent their frustrations. Most of them grew up fatherless/motherless – have been used and abused like their Hero’s – “Hitler and Manson” – and are so devoid of any True Knowledge/Wisdom that they feel the need to beat up on Innocent Folk.
Hell and the devil are fictious man made stories.
e really needs to get over herself.
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The industry/ CIA is totally controlled by the same criminal cartels that runs child sex trafficking, and buys children for sacrifice and snuff films. Katy Perry among many in the industry are mind controlled sex slaves. Beyonce is a sex slave. Her handler is Jay Z. This world is totally controlled by these sick organizations. Women in the industry are nothing but cattle to be used in any way the controllers see fit.
When our people become more wicked than good, than you will see our Lord destroy them by using the natural forces of the world to do it!! God help us ALL!! because time is not on our side as we sink deeper into sin.
um so what she walked out .dont know who she is and didnt watch grammys. people really watch that?you must be very boring.
Heart of winter
For someone who doesn’t believe in god you sure do hate him….
And your picture is satanic, so either you are a complete idiot or your trolling…either way good luck in life you’ll need it big time
Heart of winter.
For someone who doesn’t believe in god you sure try hard to prove your point. I wonder why .
Your just a sad case …
Natalie Grant was right, but she could have also walked out for the mere TASTELESSNESS of this witch-and-devil kindergarten show and this would have been better understood by the “mundane” public. I can´t bring meself to understand why showbiz and music industry to-day cultivates the very lowliest structures and spreads more and more disgusting images.
How come that such things get bought, get paid for, by normal young people? Don´t they know better pieces of art and music, better movies, better videos? No, I think they are only brainwashed by the idea that this tasteless stuff is “in fashion now” – a hypnotic sentence thatcan make humans betray their own common sense and consume the least junk just to “be in fashion” themselves.
And how come that such tasteless performances, after getting too much attention at Grammys itself, get even more undeserved attention at sites as BEforeitsnews, being taken too serious, with people asking silly things like “was this a REAL rite of sorcery?” Oh God!!! Am I to laugh at this, or should I better weep about the low IQ showing up in this reaction? REAL sorcery will NOT make use of the kindergarten patterns about Witches and Devils which are known to the common people. It will be far more subtle, and far more evil, I suppose.
Let´s hear GOOD music, and ignore the Kindergarten devils in Showbiz and, as well, the even more childish and repulsive Hellfire-and-Brimstone fear-mongerers from the Christian public. That´s how to stay sane.
And don´t panic folks, there is nothing more about all this than the question will you stay sane or go mad. No danger of damnation. God is much too great, too wide-hearted to throw people into Hell just for having watched this or that bad piece of Kasperle theatre, or having heard songs with evil words. To go insane during life on Earth is horrible enough… punishment enough… for following the stupid path of today´s bad arts.
Hell is for sins which are much worse… but all-too-widespread. Read the Gospels about the question who will go to Hell. Jesus was SO clear about it. Those who refuse to follow the Golden Rule of Charity, those who are not ready to help a fellow human in danger and pain, will go to Hell. Check your consciences about SUCH things folks and REPENT if you find such sins in your lives. After having done THIS, you may feel safe and laugh at all Kindergarten devils on WWW and T.V.
NSA and JNLWD are partnering with Virginia State Police and local police implanting people with biochips. Read “A Note on Uberveillance” by M. G. and Katina Michael. it enables Uberveillance. “In its ultimate form, überveillance has to do with more than automatic identification technologies that we carry with us. It has to do with under-the-skin technology that is embedded in the body, such as microchip implants; it is that which cuts into the flesh – a charagma (mark). Think of it as Big Brother on the inside looking out.” Newport News Police and Virginia State Police had a doctor implant me w/o my knowledge and consent with a biochip. A U. S. Attorney for the NSA/DOJ pretended to be my attorney. It enables torture and thought monitoring. They use it as a sensor and pulse energy projectiles at you. I had a heart attack. It enables voice to skull communication. See LRAD white papers or audio spotlight by Holosonics. Law enforcement believes we will only be safe if they know where we are at all times, what we are doing and what we are thinking! See Safeguards in a World of Ambient Intelligence by Springer page 9. See Mental Health and Terrorism by Amin Gadit. He states, “Of late, there are reports of a new and dreadful invention of weapons of violence that are called Bioelectromagnetic Weapons. According to the description by an Institute of Science in Society, these weapons operate at the speed of light, can kill, torture and enslave without making physical appearance. It further adds that voices and visions, daydreams and nightmares are the most astonishing manifestations of this weapon system, it is also capable of crippling the human subject by limiting his/her normal range of movement, causing acute pain the equivalent of major organ failure or even death and interferes with normal functions of human senses. It can cause difficulty with breathing and induce seizures besides damage to the tissues and organs. Through this form of terrorism, it is possible to persuade subjects that their mind is being read; their intellectual property is being plundered and can even motivate suicide or murder. Pulsed Energy projectiles (PEPs) are another form of weaponry that is used to paralyze a victim with pain. According to Peter Philips, a scientist from USA, circumstances may soon arrive in which anti-war or human right protestors suddenly feel a burning sensation akin to touching a hot skillet over their entire body. Simultaneously they may hear terrifying nauseating screaming, which while not produced externally, fills their brains with overwhelming disruption. This new invention is dreadful addition to the armamentarium of weapons of abuse and torture. Manifestations of the effects of these occult weapons can mimic mental ill health and add further to the misery of the victims.” See Bio Initiative Report 2012. See Forbes and search Brandon Raub. Law enforcement tases citizens into “excited delirium” (see at nij org) to make them act in ways they normally would not. I believe they are directly responsible for the Virginia Tech massacre. There are 3 reasons to have it implanted 1) mental health, 2) criminal record, and 3) infectious disease. If you don’t meet any of those requirements like me, they’ll falsify your records. All the mass shootings are the work of law enforcement. They want to take away your right to bear arms and make America a police state. People aren’t suddenly going crazy, they’re being tortured. I also believe the biochip to be responsible for PTSD. Read Brian Castner’s book “A Long Walk”. I have the same ambiguous pains, twitches, heart attack, night mares, day mares, gurgling, etc. I never served in the war. What do we have in common? The biochip. Suicide is one way to get relief. Virginia’s suicide rate is higher than the national average and the military suicide rate is unacceptable! You can check your upper right buttock, upper right shoulder. They are just under the skin. I have been in excruciating pain for six years due to corruption in Virginia.
I am very sorry, JBSmith. How did they do this to you? Without you knowing it, and you later found them, or did they do it while you were cognisant of the chip as they were putting it into your skin?
This is pure tyranny, it is so evil. Cannot you just cut it out? I mean, fu-k them, just gouge it out of yourself. Or go to a doc and they should do it for you? Unless they are part of the program, and scared to do that. You could do it like, hey, doc, I have this shard of stone in my …. please take it out? Go to a doc who is not in your area. Pay cash of course.
Hey natalie…go sing to your mythical being. What a maroon!
Everything Beef Supreme has said that I read above on the unshown comments by him are correct, so why are they taken down?
Why all the negative responses to the truth he puts forward?
And who did that? One person, I guess.
So I am one person, and I put a positive sign for each one of them. Others should read them, and support the truth telling that Beef Supreme just did for you. He has studied his bible, and found your Christian beliefs are not the biblical truths which you do not like to recognise; this means that you have been fooled, duped, mislead, deceived by the ones you trust and appoint to ‘protect’, ‘lead’ and ‘guide’ you into the truth you want to believe is acceptable to the Creators of the Bible, Yahuweh and Yahushua! And their angels! (Spirits, watching what each one does).
You must research as Beef has done. This will not be easy for many of you here. You are invested, and therefore conflicted. Your spirit knows that he is right. Your inner man/woman/spirit/heart KNOWS that YOU have been LIED TO by your priests and preachers, ministers and PASTORS. (Pa + STUR: Mouth (PIECE) of the Hidden God, STUR, SATUR, Saturn, Satur, Satyr, Saturn, Satan.)
Hmm. Think, people, think, and read, and think and read more and more. Then, take these questions to your preacher/pastor/priest: Ask him why. If he evades, if he dissembles, if he gives you a look of innocent lovliness and forbearance as you again ask a question upon the not-answered question you just asked, ask your inner intuition if you are doing the right thing by taking this man’s word for it, against your bible’s strong warnings NOT TO DO SO.
Because your Creators do NOT LIKE YOU TO BE LIED TO BY MAN or demon. Therefore, you are told to TEST THEM ALL. Search the scriptures daily to prove if these things be so.
And then you will find that this, and not your church people, is biblical truth, and what your preachers do and teach will not get you acceptance in the day when they cry out to YAHUSHUA ”Master, Master, but we did many miracles and good deeds in your name!’
You do not want to be among those who gnash their teeth as their objections to Yahushua’s judgment are lame and hypocritical, borne of false doctrines of demons, practices which scarred your spirit and conscience, (ritual, invocations, traiditional practices of Christian religion) and rendered you unable to appreciate the dire situation you set yourself up in now.
If you do not bear discomfort of losing family, friends, position, money, fame, appearance of being among the ‘acceptable’ ones of society today, you WILL BEAR MORE DISCOMFORT on that day when you are cast into OUTER DARKNESS WITH WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH…
Christ Jesus as taught and worshipped, or revered, or honoured in the Church Traditions of Christianity, IS THE SOLAR DEITY’S BABY SAVIOUR FIGURE – THE FALSE MESSIAH WE WERE WARNED NOT TO ACCEPT.
And this is easily seen when you read history.
Universal Sign has multiple accounts including, and not limited to Plain Jane and Black Hole. When he finds a commentator that he doesn’t like, he will cycle through all his accounts so that he can get more likes than anybody else. It’s quite pathetic.
And as he is the incarnation of his father, that father God of the Solar Babe is Sol the Father, Satan who seduced Eve thereby infiltrating the DNA of humans ruining the planned existence Yah had in mind for His and Yahushua’s beloved humans.
Oh well, we can only do what we can do now; resist, reject all lies as the Father of Lies was the one who began our misery.
STUR IS SATAN, SATURN. his number is 666. His baby is a murderer, not a saviour. His female used to bear his fruit was the mother of all liviing humans. Adam was not the father of all living humans. STUR is the Hidden God. Christians need to ask certain questions like this of their Pa-Stur men of Church lies:
If we know that Yahshua/Yahushua was not born at Christmas, and it does not tell us when he was born, we infer that it is not needed or desireable or important in the worship of IAUE (Yahweh). Yet the Christmas is essential to the Solar Deity’s worship, which is forbidden in the bible; therefore why are we still carrying on celebrating as Satanists do? why is this acceptable now, and who said it is acceptable now?
Jesus Christ and Saturn are not the same. Christmas comes from the pagan celebration of Saturnalia or Sol Invictus and Easter comes from Isis. Over time, Semiramis/Isis became known as the Mother Goddess [mother earth – Gaia] and the Queen of Heaven, under names Ishtar, Eostre, Astarte, Ostera, and Eastre. All of these names are where we derive the word for, and the tradition of, Easter. Semiramis was associated with fertility and one symbol used to represent her was a rabbit (suggesting over promiscuity; hardly what one would associate with the Virgin Mary). As time went on, Semiramis was said to have originally hatched from a giant egg, leaving us with the Easter egg as a permanent part of modern society. Jesus was most likely born in September (Virgo).
Stop spreading your lies. Beef Supreme never says that Jesus Christ is Saturn either; you are clearly trying to discredit him but you only look like an over obsessive fool with way too much time on him hands.
It’s like the incarnation by Satan, or another Satanic spirit, who is a spirit being, an evil entity, of a human being is possible, and is prophesied to happen: A human man, inhabited by the Spirit of Satan, or a high-ranking demon under satan at least, whose energy and force and wisdom comes from Satan, yes, but he is not actually Satan himself, unless Satan himself has fully taken up residence in that man himself and only Satan’s character and thoughts and deeds are done, and none of the man’s own.
they are not the same Being, and yet, they are run by the same Being. That’s how the trinity and what you thought are connected maybe.
And why, if the Eastward standing with arms outstretched to the sun as it rises on Easter Sunday services in churches across the globe is called an abomination in the bible, do we still do this historical reenactment of Easter, Ishtar, the Goddess Queen of Heaven, which IAUE of the Scriptures has called AN ABOMINATION?
Why now, even knowing that Yahushua had nothing to do with that celebration or that God/dess, and was not resurrected on a Sunday, do we do what obviously he did not want, (blending Solar Deity lies, melding lies with the clear and perfect truth of what happened, for our sakes) do we continue celebrating Easter with the symbol of the cross, and crucifix, (images of Tammuz which in effect celebrate the torture of our real Messiah by Satanic people)
and eggs, and rabbits, and sunrise services, lying that ‘it is all for the children, and it is in HONOUR of Yahushua – that he resurrected! (not on Sunday, again, this is proven)
“Why in light of biblical truths and historical corroboration, do we put up with hypocrisy and lies such as these in our ostensbile worship of IAUE of the Bible, , Pa-STUR?”
If he says anything which insults your common sense, leave that church. If he justifies these lies and this Satanic worship, leave that person after dusting off the sand of that church from your feet.
If he evades, minimises, excuses and rationalizes any of these abominations, and you feel weakened enough to accept those justififactions for doing these ABOMINATIONS accroding to the bible you hold in your hands, per the words of IAUE (see Ezekiel Chapter 8 and after that to start)
then, you just refer to your lying PA-STUR (Pastor/Priest/Preacher/Minister) and what he told you on the day your actions are required of you, when your continued refusals to heed the truth of Yah and example of Yahushua your real Messiah are brought into remembrance before IAUE and Yahushua: just mention your Pastor’s name, and all will be alright with YOU.
NOT.
Your blood will be upon your Pastor’s head, but do you really want to die for his lies? And if you are cognisant and able minded and can access a computer or a library, but you refused the invitation continually to prove all these things to be truth,
then, you will take your place next to your Pa-STUR (Mouth of STUR, SATAN) IN THE ABYSS.
Jesus Christ and Saturn are not the same. Christmas comes from the pagan celebration of Saturnalia or Sol Invictus and Easter comes from Isis. Over time, Semiramis/Isis became known as the Mother Goddess [mother earth – Gaia] and the Queen of Heaven, under names Ishtar, Eostre, Astarte, Ostera, and Eastre. All of these names are where we derive the word for, and the tradition of, Easter. Semiramis was associated with fertility and one symbol used to represent her was a rabbit (suggesting over promiscuity; hardly what one would associate with the Virgin Mary). As time went on, Semiramis was said to have originally hatched from a giant egg, leaving us with the Easter egg as a permanent part of modern society. Jesus was most likely born in September (Virgo).
Stop spreading your lies. Beef Supreme never says that Jesus Christ is Saturn either; you are clearly trying to discredit him but you only look like an over obsessive fool with way too much time on him hands.
You are right, but I never said that Jesus Christ and Saturn WERE the same.
And I never said Beef said that either.
Saturn is the Father or the father figure in Satanism. Jesus Christ is the son of that Solar God, Satan.
They really ARE NOT the same being, you are correct. BUT i often find myself equating the son with the father figure, in that religion, just because in reality, the priesthood also does. as the priests of Saturn or Baal or Molech or God SAY THEMSELVES THAT THE FATHER IS THE SON, AND THE SON IS THE FATHER.
! fATHER = Son Son, Sun Deity Baby saviour figure IS his FATHER INCARNATE.
Do you get the difference, here? It is a subtle but intrinsic difference. Because it HAS TO BE. TO FOOL YOU ALL.
I am not spreading any false things, only truths. And I certainly do not want to discredit Beef Supreme, whom I admire for his study of this, which you also need to do, as you are very very misinformed.
Please read this as well as the book under this.
This one is newer, (used to be The Great Reformation)
this amazingly researched purple paperback book by C. J. Koster, South Africa, provided by C. J. Koster’s son now, is an awesomely-shocking, (um, it shakes you up in a faster way cause its not so painstakingly and eruditely written in that classical language as Two Babylons is) yet comprehensive, deep, factual researched information that you will find no place else other than the aforementioned The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hislop; except more, new discoveries, and previously overlooked facts (Hislop wrote his over a century ago, we must remember, he was far ahead of his time) and C. J. Koster has provided additional detailed, proven, striking and completely corroborative information from many of the same classical sources Hislop searched, as well as the original manuscripts from which our Bibles were translated. provide on-line for you here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/75959289/Come-Out-of-Her-My-People-C-J-Koster
@Wretched Infidel
Stop this Solar garbage!
Almost NO tradition is solar!
It’s light!
Light and colour!
As in Lightbringer.
Yes as in the rising sun.
Yes te east.
But it is LIGHT AND COLOURS!
RAINBOWS!
PHYSICS!!!
E=MC squared!
Not Solar!
Let me be more clear to you, Pa Troll.
Jesus Christ as taught in Christianity (all churches) and as celebrated by you all who say your bible is your authority (NOT!) is a Solar Deity baby.
Not the actual, real Messiah.
I never said he was Saturn, you are mistaken. Saturn is the father figure, whose symbol is the hexagram, two triangles superimposed opposite one another, meaning the copulation of the father with the mother, queen of heaven, Ishtar, the Goddess of many names.
The product, the baby, of Satanic belief, the Christ, that is Solar, is born at the Solstice or soon thereafter. This is not the messiah of scriptures, this is the one in place of that real messiah, in other words, the Christ worshipped by chirstians in church is the anti-messiah, whom you call the Anti-Christ, or Instead-Of-Christ. The Against-Messiah figure, the bad evil seed of the serpent.
The serpent is the symbol or figure of Satan in the garden of Eden who seduced Eve. But he was in the form of a man. A ‘Tree’ is symbolic of a man in scriptures often.
He was beautiful and appealing and alluring and able to put on a great show of professed love and wisdom, discrediting the truth of Yah. (IAUE).
He fathered Cain, most probably, per all the evvidence in the bible, which does not make sense without this being the case. Cain was not Satan, the Serpentine deciever, the Tree of the KNowledge of Good and Evil, but that DNA or spirit was in Cain’s body. In the image of his father, 50%. You can say that Satan lives on continually influencing us to evil, the entire human line thru Cain’s DNA. Yes, it may have been wiped out at the flood, but then, the watchers descended and did the same thing to human women. So the evil spirit DNA is in humans big-time. Especially now. I am digressing, but you should learn this and what it implies.
So the Father is really NOT THE SON,as Satan and Cain are two different creations – but in Satan’s plan, he uses the figure of a false messiah to substutute and intercept the real messiah. In the people’s hearts and minds. and in their spirits and bodies.
To gain adherents, he uses the son as a figure in his worship. but he gets the credit and the most honour, because this son figure is a deadly one, taking after the spirit of his evil father, Satan, The Hidden God, Saturn. Who is Molech, who is Kronos, etc.
The son is evil too, but he is really not the father, the creator of this huge web of lies. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Satan, Saturn) also used the woman, WHO IS HIS TRUMP CARD against IAUE’s true religion of the bible. The woman is the 3rd person of the Trinity, which is not biblical. the trinity is an invention of Satan, The Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, the Serpentine, cunning, bright, shining boastful God. Because everyone loves the mother who is primally bonded to them, or wants their mother to love them. And everyone wants to be like the maiden/virgin and to marry her. She is unbeatable, in religion of Satanic mysteries. the third person of the trinity is ALWAYS feminine historiically.
As Satan used the woman to produce the counterfeit messiah-figure, (Cain was probably the earliest promoter of Satanic worship, the worship of his father) and to win the world’s people to his worship, (Solar Deity worship is the worship of the Serpent, the snake and the sun symbols represent the same God, the Sun God, Fire God) he needs her, exploits her, to our detriment, and his doctrines say that she is he, and he is her, and she is the mother of her husband and the wife of the baby, and vice versa,
they really are not the same beings. they are different beings, exploited, used and abused by a master genius, who is so egomaniacal that he says they are ALL HIM IN REALITY.
http://ia701209.us.archive.org/10/items/theTwoBabylons/TheTwoBabylons.pdf
@ Mirabolin: It’s not garbage, IT’S HISTORY, DUDE.
What do you mean, ‘almost no tradition is Solar’????
the Sun is the largest Star/Fire in our solar system, so the Spirit/Being Heileil (Bright, Shining, by implication, The Bright Shining Boastful One) chose the Sun as the most primal universally-recognised symbol to rally the masses under/around.
Please begin to read….you can start with an old-fashioned encylopedia preferably not older than 1940, Britannica is good.
Also you could begin with those books I posted for you. And the bible…Sun, moon, planets, stars… yes, it is about ‘Light’bearers, (spirits who pose as, usually, but who are not, and just blind us by their appearance)
that is why Yahushua said, ‘I (as opposed to those) am the truth and the light”.
I am the true vine. (as opposed to the false vine…)
Light is provided by spirits of truth, but is used by spirits of darkness and death to blind us with their lies, which are nice-sounding LIES.
Yah made the Sun and the moon and the planets and stars. Not for us to worship though.
So it definitely is not Yah we are worshiping when we worship the Deity/Spirit whose emblem is the Sun, universally.
I’m trying to help you here. People in the past might have made reallly good attempts at comparitive cultures but the idea that pagans are all sun worshippers is just flat out wrong. Trinitarianism MIGHT have a strong association with light and colour which might bring to mind the rainbow as the symbol of Gods covenant with Noah but they are just not sun worshippers. So it’s close but no cigar.
Zorastrianism, of course, is ALL about light but not about the sun.
Amun Ra, Apollo, Helios, Horus, etc…
These were not SUN GODS? Is that your contention, Mirabolin?
Celebration of the ‘resurrection’ of the Sun at the time of the Winter Solstice was/is not Sun worship? Mithras/Attis/Adonis’ rebirth coinciding with that solar ‘resurrection’ is not Sun worship?
SOL INVICTUS does not denote Sun worship?
Am I missing something, or is that the gist of your argument?
Not ALL pagan Gods were Sun Gods. Thor, Odin, Freya, Cernunnos, Jupiter, Venus, Osiris, Set, Anubis, Zeus, Baal, Brahma, Vishnu, etc etc were not sun gods. Moses face also shone as if it had a halo but MOses was not a sun god.
If you wanted a Biblical symbol of pre-Abrahamic Religion though the Rainbow od NOah is a perfectly good one as light is often a sign of the divine.
Osiris, Jupiter, Odin and Zeus were said to be the FATHERS of Sun Gods.
Cernunnos is but another manifestation of Apollo/Horus, himself the Sun God.
Thor (HORUS) is absolutely a manifestation of the Sun God.
Frigga (?) and Venus are manifestations of the Moon Goddess Diana/Ishtar.
You will get no argument from me that Moses was a Sun God — of course he was not. Referencing the Covenantal SIGN (oth) of the rainbow has no meaningful bearing on the facts in dispute. Light has a source in this world. The source of that light is the Sun. Without the Sun, there would be no light. Without that light, there would be no rainbow. That both the Sun and the light it produces can rightly be thought of as representations of other ‘invisible’ aspects of the spiritual, does nothing to detract from the heart of the matter. MANY of the pagan gods (but a singular entity — or even a manifested ASPECT of a singular entity) are exactly what you are arguing they are not. Your argument is so unusual, in fact, that I have never heard it advocated before today. I have not a clue as to the source of your information about these things, but your position does not agree with any of the material I have examined, relative to this topic.
Well as to light having a source in the world the people of the past didn’t know that the moon was only reflected light. They did worship the moon. Thor was a god of thunder just like Jupiter and Zeus and Baal (but then again they WERE lightbringers in the form of lightning). Some people would just dismiss the idea of pagan sun gods being so common but I’m not even doing that. I think there is, in western Eurasia anyway, supernatural world and light have a strong association but this is paganism! There were gods for every single aspect of life and they were obviously not all sun gods.
“Well as to light having a source in the world the people of the past didn’t know that the moon was only reflected light.”
The ‘profane’ and the ‘vulgar’ uninitiated masses did worship the Moon (in addition to the other heavenly luminaries), as you say. However, the initiates into the Mysteries knew full well that the Moon was not its own light-source. Going as far back as the Sumerian and Assyrian Empires, initiates were accurately calculating orbits and were well aware of the basic nature of our physical solar-system, on a par, even, with what we THINK we know today. Things have changed very little. Today, the initiates into the Mysteries conceal from the uneducated (so-called) and unworthy (so-called) masses the true meaning of allegorical representations of heavenly patterns, just as the truest meanings of many of the most common symbols are kept hidden from the many.
“They did worship the moon.”
The initiates did not. The adepts did not. Or perhaps they pretended to from time to time, to placate and to misdirect the ‘profane.’
“Thor was a god of thunder just like Jupiter and Zeus and Baal (but then again they WERE lightbringers in the form of lightning).”
Jupiter, Zeus, and Baal are demonstrably the self-same personage manifested across various cultures. Odin (or Wotan) would be the Norse version of a manifestation of Zeus. Odin was said to be the father of Thor. T(HOR)us. Certain of the Norse Mythologies record that Thor was the God of Thunder, just as Zeus was said to be the God of Lightning. The fact that Thor was said to be a Thunder God does nothing to change the fact that he was essentially the same entity described in Egyptian, Greek and Roman Myths and Mysteries. Horus is a (the) Sun God. Horus is Thor. Therefore, Thor is a (the) Sun God.
“Some people would just dismiss the idea of pagan sun gods being so common but I’m not even doing that.”
Yes, Mirabolin… that is precisely what you are doing. You wrote:
“Stop this Solar garbage! Almost NO tradition is solar!”
If you are now changing your tune, please don’t pretend that you are not changing it. Most if not all of the Pagan Myths and Mysteries have a Sun God as well as a ‘solar tradition’ at their core. And I have no idea why anyone would bother to dispute that.
“There were gods for every single aspect of life and they were obviously not all sun gods.”
I would certainly agree that this last statement of yours is true. But this last statement is VERY different from the position you began with. Generally speaking, each culture had (has) as many Sun Gods as there are Suns – though in some instances, even this logic does not hold. In some instances, cultures had (have) more than one Sun God as components of their mythologies.
HAhHahHahHahHah… taking a breath HAH HAh Hah hah… another breath Hah HAH HAAAHH….
ETC., etc., etc. Long Time
You sure do got some weird misconceptions and you can say them with a straight face too.
Trying to ‘help us’!? BREATH FIRST HAH!hAHHaah hah! Hah Hah Hah Hah Hah… etc. etc.
@BEEF SUPREME WRETCHED INFIDEL
Well OK I’m not going to argue about it as I don’t know very much about it EXCEPT to say that your sun gods theory does depend on secrets so lots of people will just take that as flakery and the idea that the sun at dawn, midday and dusk is the basis of the trinity just misses the innate singular, dual and plural bent to the human minds categorization of the world. One, two, many.
What a beautiful person with a heart of Gold. Satanism is nothing new in Hollywood, why do you suppose they love Obama and Islam so much. Islam is Satan’s Church. I love all of you people who find it amusing to make fun of other peoples beliefs, it’s childish and stupid, people should be able to believe in whatever they want so long as they are hurting other people. You don’t see Christians slaughtering non-believers or forcing anyone to convert, we know that achieves nothing, you have to believe in you heart and mind and allow yourself to get to know God and Christ. It’s the non-believers, atheist and Islamist s who are forcing themselves on Christians. Christians are going around trying to have peoples personal symbols removed or making fun at someone because they aren’t religious. Christians are the people who practice tolerance for our fellow man. It’s the atheist who are wanting to remove our Crosses and Christmas trees even though they hurt no one and are symbols of peace and love.
The guy speaking in the 1st video is a real DORK !
Thank you Beef Supreme. I knew if you wanted to, you could take it and run with the clear facts and set thisl straight, if you wanted to spend time in the face of Mirabolin’s boldfaced lying.
I don’t care about Mirabolin, as there is no hope with such people totally overtaken, but the rest of the people here needed to hear your replies, so thank you from all of us who are interested in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth will we be content with.
We all benefit from your choices to spend time in searching the scriptures for these truths you hold fast to, and studying of the history that it seems, the entire world has studiously tried to ignore.
Shalom, Beef and May IAUE (YHWH, Yahweh, Iahuweh) bless you greatly for your patience here.
All I could do is laugh….
Alright, Mirabolin. You say something very wrong as well and now I have some time to answer to this:
Mirabolin said:
Not ALL pagan Gods were Sun Gods. Thor, Odin, Freya, Cernunnos, Jupiter, Venus, Osiris, Set, Anubis, Zeus, Baal, Brahma, Vishnu, etc etc were not sun gods. Moses face also shone as if it had a halo but MOses was not a sun god.”
(no, the readl Moses is/was not a God, this is true.) But all the other Gods you listed are sun gods.
Venus is usually associated with the moon and the planet Venus/Isis/Ishtar’s worship as such, but Venus is a part of the trinity of Sun God religion and therefore, as they believe who practice this religion (now, and then, in ancient times) the 3rd person (the feminine aspect) of the Triune God of Solar Deity worship is one and the same as the Father and the Son of the Father.
Like today’s Christians. They also believe this doctrine, and this is ancient doctrinal requirement forced upon the people to say and repeat, and it does not make sense, yet, it is true. It is ‘a Mystery’ as the Catholic Church and Protestant Churches (many, more and more of them nowadays, are actually saying this, and require their members to say it also, that ‘The Lord Jesus IS GOD, WHO CAME DOWN IN THE FLESH TO LIVE AS A MAN, TO DIE HIMSELF FOR US, IN A HUMAN MAN FORM”. if one does not believe this and therefore refers to the Bible to refute their statement and attempt to coerce you to repeat this egregious error back to them as ‘proof’ you are not ‘of the antichrist’ spriti, they shun you, turning away from your door as though you are a leper.
This is from Baptists, too. It is unbelievable the level of heresy that professing believers in the Bible have today lowered themselves to.
In the Bible the Son is the Son, and he is separate and a different Being than his Father.
And they agree together, in every thing, because truth loves truth, good loves good, life loves pure life, and love always strengthens love, life, truth, and pure things. They never disagree.
Yes, he would have rather not have gone thru the ordeal that he did, (Yahshua, Yahushua) as he suffered in Gethsemane, saying, If it is possible that this cup be taken from me..nevertheless, let Thy will be done…(Father IAUE)”
Yet, he agrees with Yahuweh (IAUE) in all things, as IAUE is good, in all things. So he did it.
Because he knew then that there was no other way, they share the thoughts each other has, and they share the same spirit, the spirit of love and truth and life.
But they are not the same Being, they are TWO separate BEINGS.
And to further clarify for you who still think that Venus or the Moon is not identified with the Solar Deity, the above principle (that one is all three and the different three are all the One) is further corroborated with the fact that in times past, the Sun God and the Moon Goddess were reversed, as in ancient Arabia, the Moon was male, the Moon God, and the sun symbol was the symbol of the Goddess, instead of like we understand now in our limited understanding of this religion.
It is a religion, and it has its principles, and they are misleading, deliberately, so, so many of the average adherents are in the dark about this. But that is the plan! It works well, too, for the Mysteries are not revealed to all the people, for then, they would see thru the sh!t they are being fed and revolt… to the truth.
Also the ancient Saxons/Anglo Saxons, worshipped a Lord Moon – not Lord Sun, Lord MOON. Male Moon.
And please excuse me, Mirabolin, I really thought you knew that what you were saying was untrue, but now I see that you just didn’t really know.
(i did think you were a rabid Catholic or paid shill to undermine the truth about the Solar Deity being the God worshipped by all the world, including today’s Christians),
so I do apologise, sincerely to you for saying what I did about your replies
@ WRETCHED INFADEL
Frank Sinatra: Shooby Dooby Doo Yehushua.
Nevertheless the H is actually silent.
I know everything.
I’m just being kind.
Mrabolin, are you trying to freak me out, or – are you mad, or worse?
You never should say such things, and never should say Ye-ho-shua, unless you mean to worship Satan, the Goat God.
Do you? Ye + shua is saying the Goat + saves/savlvation (of the Goat).
In the Scriptural it is Yah + shua, or Yahu + shua., never ever Yeho or Ye plus shua. This is very very dangerous, and pleases the devil to say the latter.
We are only growing when we can admit that we learned something today that we didn’t know yesterday, in fact, if we go one day without learning any new thing, we are no better than the condition we were in yesterday…and it takes a big person to say without shame, ‘I was unaware/misinformed’ but I will seek more information to correct that condition – if everyone did this, in the areas of importance, (like health, state of the world, facts of religion, etc) then, we would be much freer and much stronger.
And our enemies (our own making) do not wish for us to do this, because then, their power would diminish, and become null and void finally…
I cannot yet figure out certain things, like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Ben Fanklin… I love T.J and what he said, but I seem to be having trouble reconciling that he was a ‘Master’ Mason? (I have read 33 degree, but – ) and to me, that is an irreconcilable thing, and George Wash, well, was it put in that letter deliberately, about he knew well that the Illuminati were trying to infiltrate the Masonic Lodges in America, (was this studiied, to leave to us, today, so we would think he was ‘good’? vs. those ‘bad’ Illuminists?? or was he sincerely, innocently uninformed about their Lucifer/Satan????)
So, we all need to find out more and more about everyting which is relevant to us today… and religion and Solar Deity worship is our biggest problem, individually and nationally, and globally, to my thinking, because all the evils of the world actually stem from this worship of the Solar Deity, who is Satan.
Well, I hope you all have a good weekend and beware the things you see tomorrow symbolically and energy-wise, its probalby much safer to ignore the game and associated energies. I will pray to Yahuweh (IAUE) for helping all of the people to realize that He is the Creator, not Satan (God, Solar Deity) and his Messiah Yahushua is knocking on all hearts now to come out of the Churches, and come into the many truths that have been kept hidden from all of us, and all of our ancestors, for so many generations and miserable centuries. Yah help us all now, we are in it and it is going to be worse before it is made better by Yahushua sent down to earth to end the destruction by the destroyers – by his Father, Yahuweh.
Until then, we fight the evil every moment. May He (They) help all of you and all of your loved ones. Shalom, Peace, and Life, and truth, forever to you