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About The McCain - Trump Controversy

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The Donald has managed to rise another media storm.  The Hill states :

“Republicans of all stripes spent Saturday hammering Donald Trump for his remarks mocking Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) over his time spent as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
Many of the GOP’s most visible members are suggesting the outspoken billionaire and presidential candidate went too far taunting McCain during a speech Saturday afternoon.

 ”He was a war hero because he was captured,” Trump sarcastically told host Frank Luntz during the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

Many have taken issue with his remarks and used it as ammunition against the Donald, such as the saintly Hillary Clinton…

I can’t help but get the giggles at Hillary’s use of the word “shameful” and John Kerry’s defense of John McCain, given Kerry’s Swift-boating controversy, actually inspired to me to see what other people’s reactions were. 


Sherryl Attkisson, Emmy award winning investigative journalist and author of the New York Times bestseller: “Stonewalled.” published a fact check, where she states that the Donald did not insult John McCaine.  

Most Republican candidates, except Ted Cruz, have used the controversy as ammo against the Donald.  


In the meantime, Twitter continues to swell in support for the Donald.  Here are a few examples:


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Then, in the comments section of Gretawire,

I found this:

I knew that McCaine had allowed himself to be filmed in a propaganda tape, while prisoner of North Vietnam, but I did not remember hearing of him facing any repercussions.  I had been taught that to help the enemy in anything that could be used to bring our country down, constituted treason.  Later, he ran for president and I wanted him to win because I did not trust that Obama would be able to work with congress.  I had a bad feeling about Obama and his “fundamental transformation of America” however, McCaine didn’t feel completely right either.

There are YouTube videos were people state that McCain has blocked release of POW records – that would include the tape or tapes that he made.  Even worse, they state that McCain blocked initiatives were people wanted to search for surviving POWs.  McCain had said that there were no POWs left but, years later, survivors were found.   If no returning POW had faced a court martial, I’d say to leave the past be but in “Spite House, The Last Secret of the War in Vietname” Monika Jensen-Stevenson narrates how Private Garwood, who escaped after being a prisoner of war for 14 years, was court-martialed and found guilty of collaborating with the enemy.  There is more to the McCaine – Vietnam controversy and Trump may know more than he dares admit.  
In conclusion,  media pundits and foes will take any shots they can at the Donald because, even though he can be brash, he has driven the dialogue away from the usual tired scripts.  The Donald is bringing America out of political-correctness prison and thank-you-for-playing medals and into a realm that even Republicans may find hard to process.  In time, McCaine will be a loser because he did call veterans, Americans and legal residents who want the border closed – “crazies”   The Donald will loose a couple of points because some veterans forgot that getting captured was a job hazard and that one had to be a Chris Kyle to deserve to be called a hero.  The only one whom, so far, comes out smelling like a rose is Ted Cruz because he has refused to take a pot-shot at the Donald.  




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Source: http://paranoidpapers.blogspot.com/2015/07/about-mccain-trump-controversy.html



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    • TruthandFreedom

      I’m a veteran and I will outright say Trump was 100% correct that McCain was no war hero! Fact is, he was a TRAITOR to America and many service members lost their lives due to his cowardice. There is numerous documentation to prove that his awards: Silver Star, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts are all as fraudulent as McCain himself!

      Lets start with the fact that one must ask how on a medal count basis that McCain outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.
      McCain’s valor awards are based on speculation as to what happened in 1967 during his 23d mission, when over Vietnam he was shot down and injured. He was then captured and then spent the next 5.5 years selling out America!
      Is it no wonder that his own Senate office refuses to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism! His awards were in-fact “boilerplate” meaning they were given no questions asked for all prisoners at the time period for that camp.

      McCain’s Silver Star narrative for the period 27 October 1967 the day after he was shot down to 8 December 1968 reads: “His captors… subjected him to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly towards the eventual abandonment…” of such harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese.
      However, in McCain’s own words just four days after being captured, he admitted that he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors “O.K, I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”
      Thus, in truth “He received the nation’s third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason as he provided aid and comfort to the enemy!”

      The rest of his valor awards issued automatically every year while he was a POW read much like the Silver Star. More boilerplate often repeating the exact same words. An example: “By his heroic endeavors, exceptional skill, and devotion to duty, he reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces.” As we can see no specific of any valor was entailed!

      The truth is that by the fourth day of his capture he signed a confession and declared himself a “black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate.” This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press were then used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement. In total McCain made over 30 of these propaganda videos for the Communist Press.

      According to McCain he tells of horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs. All inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts. JUST NOT BELIEVABLE, unless we are to believe that McCain was kept in an isolated prison cell away from all other prisoners!

      A former POW stated “No man witnessed another man during interrogations… We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell.” However, if the torture was as bad as McCain stated his physical state would have clearly been noted!

      Let us not also mention the fact that according to those issuing the awards, two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism. However, NONE of the valor awards McCain received have or had any eyewitnesses, less himself and his captors.

      Could it be that his awards were issued on the fact that his father and grandfather both held 4 star admiral positions with the Navy? One can only assume that this is the truth, as from day 4 on of his captivity he behaved as a COLLABORATOR and propaganda tool for his North Vietnamese captors. McCain had engaged in no less than 30, and likely as many as 38 anti-American propaganda broadcasts for Radio Hanoi during the period of his captivity. Does any of this speak to being an image of an American WAR HERO?

      An example of his cowardice and TREASON against America can be found in the US NEWS & WORLD REPORT, where he personally admitted in the article that during the time he was in prison (in fact It was by the fourth day) he asked the [North] Vietnamese to take him to the hospital and that in exchange he promised he would provide them with classified military information.

      This military information consisted of highly classified information, the most important of which was the “package route” the military was using for the bombing of North Vietnam. He provided in detail the altitudes, directions, and the primary targets of interest for the United States.

      The result was that the North Vietnamese moved their anti-aircraft defenses into those areas and built them up and strengthened them. They also moved the rockets, aircraft weapons, into the “package route” of where the airplanes were flying. This ended in many lost lives, as supported by intelligence reports! This information provided by this traitor ended with a 60% increase of lost aircraft and military personnel (Yes, lives were lost because of this coward!) After about a month, the situation deteriorated to the point that they finally called off the bombing of North Vietnam, all due to the information that McCain had given to the enemy!

      It is said that McCain refused an early release. An act of valor?

      This has clearly been disputed by three former POWs who stated that McCain was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he “just followed orders.”

      McCain’s actions in Vietnam dishonor the many POWs who stood tall and refused to break their honor code.

      U.S. MILITARY CODE OF CONDUCT

      I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

      II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.

      III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and to aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.

      IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.

      V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to only give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

      VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
      So should Trump not have stated the truth?

      I say Trump was right on point and that maybe we should have a poll by Americans as who is the biggest liar in government? McCain, Pelosi, Hillary, Boehner, McConnell, Reid, and let us not forget Obama or is it Barry ,,,, no one will ever know because the News Media refused to Vett him! News media vetting means pointing by the Media to the birth certificate on the government website, despite this proven a fake/forgery and even Barry’s own lawyer calling it such a bad fake (in a court of law).

      THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF LIARS IN THE CONGRESS AND SENATE! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES REFUSING TO TAKE A STAND AND SHOW BOTH INTEGRITY AND MORALS IN THEIR DECISIONS, INSTEAD OF MAKING DECISIONS ON BY THE FACT OF WHO WILL GIVE THEM THE MOST MONEY!
      SOLUTION: NO MONEY ALLOWED IN POLITICS OR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN RECEIVE NO PAY FROM TAX PAYERS AS THEY REFUSE TO REPRESENT TAX PAYERS! THESE CRIMINALS WHO HAVE NO INTEGRITY CAN ACCEPT THE MONEY FROM THE LOBBYISTS OR THEIR BASE (TAX PAYERS) BUT NOT BOTH AS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DOUBLE DIPPING!

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