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How Long Will Your Church Survive Under a Clinton Presidency?

Monday, October 31, 2016 14:19
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Theology and Politics from a Conservative, Biblical Perspective

Thanks to a friend from church who forwarded this article to me via email by Simon de Hundehutte over at American Thinker. In his article, he certainly makes some thought-provoking points and worthy of consideration.

We are in the rapids and definitely moving swiftly toward the waterfall ahead. Things don’t look at all good from a human perspective, but we know it’s God’s perspective that counts. My wife and I voted today during early voting. It was interesting to see all the disabled individuals being brought in by friends or relatives, many of who seemed to have no clue where they were or what they were doing there. Never fear, because their handlers “helped” them with the voting. Aside from getting out to vote, these folks probably never receive that much attention at all. It was interesting to hear one of the handlers say to one of the voting officials, “He really wanted to do this himself,” referring to voting. I found that interesting considering he appeared to simply be staring off into space, slightly drooling. He wasn’t even coherent enough to follow her simple commands like, “Did you want to stand up or sit?” He just stared.

Immediately across the street from the voting precinct a man was hurriedly placing candidate signs in the dirt. When I questioned the people at the precinct, I was told that the signs were definitely at least 150 feet away. Without a tape measure, it’s difficult to know for certain, but maybe I have no clue what 150 feet looks like.

When I was done voting, one helper asked if I wanted a sticker that said “I voted.” I declined as I’m actually embarrassed of the low quality of candidates these days. This election in particular is bad, which is why, in my opinion, they had to knock everyone out of the race who was smarter than Hillary, leaving only Donald Trump and then all they can do is make him appear to be a sexual predator, as if Bill Clinton wears a halo.

One local candidate for District Attorney received over $100,000 from one of George Soros’ non-government organizations (NGO’s). Initially, the person running against the Soros-backed candidate held his ground refusing to be intimidated stating in the press that George Soros can’t come in and buy an election. One week later, he was gone, having quickly resigned without explanation, leaving the Soros-backed candidate as the lone candidate. That Soros machine goes for the jugular, doesn’t it?

As I voted, I half-expected the screen to change my vote as has reportedly happened in other parts of Georgia. I deliberately stared at the screen and waited almost daring it to change. When I got to the last page just before you hit the “submit” button, I double checked my choices again, just to be sure.

Frankly, I miss the paper ballots with those wonderful “hanging chads.” Look, if a chad is “hanging,” that means someone attempted to push it out and that only happens via vote. But because of all the unnecessary hoopla surrounding that particular situation, all of a sudden, America needed electronic voting machines that need to be programmed with code and experts have told Congress it doesn’t take much to code them so that votes are changed after an individual candidate is selected by the voter. Hegelian Dialectic or simply coincidence?

Anyway, vote your conscience and more than anything, trust God that His program will gain the victory ultimately.

Enjoy the article by Simon de Hundehutte below. Please remember, God…is…in…charge. That’s a bit 10-4 and an AMEN!


If Hillary Clinton becomes president, there is little doubt she will continue unabated the policies of President Obama. This will include Obama’s heavy-handiness (sic) towards dissenting religious organizations like the Little Sisters of the Poor when it comes to abortion decrees, as well as pastors who preach sermons considered “out of bounds,” and individual Christians whose conscience dictates they refrain from baking cakes or taking photos for “gay weddings.”

So, with this in mind, just how long will it take for the church that you currently attend to either knuckle under to the new way of conducting “church business” or face punishment in Hillary’s America?

That all depends on the type of church you now attend. The way I see it, there are presently two types of Christian churches in our country: a church where Jesus Christ is in the denominator or one where Christ is in the numerator.

As in mathematics, the denominator and the numerator have two very different meanings. The denominator affects every number above the line. For purposes of this demonstration, the numerator can be a lot of different numbers, but the denominator is a constant. However, if that denominator changes, all the different numbers above the line in the numerator are affected.

A Christ-denominator church preaches that Jesus is Lord and what He says through Holy Scripture dictates how you and the church conducts itself privately and in public. Your personal feelings are trumped by Bible doctrines. Cultural fashions may change but what’s written in the Bible doesn’t. A Christ-denominator church preaches biblical principles in season and out of season – it does not matter which way the cultural wind is blowing.

A Christ-numerator church may also preach that Jesus is Lord. But what’s going on in the world is given full consideration as to how the message of the Bible is delivered. In other words, “the world” is in the denominator. A Christ-numerator church will talk about “social justice” and “saving the planet from man-made climate change,” for example.

In a Christ-denominator church, everything in a person’s life is affected by following Christ: how he thinks, who he dates or marries, what job he will take, and on and on. All these things are part of that person’s numerator, since following Jesus is in his denominator.

However, in a Christ-numerator church, making the world a better place is in the denominator. That means, faith in Christ (even personal salvation) is just one of a number of other important things that are in the numerator. All things that a person believes are affected by the foundational question: “How can I make the world a better place?”

To people on the outside of the Christian religion altogether, members of a Christ-denominator church might appear narrow-minded, exclusive, self-righteous, and uncaring about the world and its problems. That certainly can be a pitfall of a Christ-denominator believer. However, since Christ came to “set the captives free” and “make all things new again,” Christ-denominator believers follow His lead. They don’t make things up because “it feels right” or to “go along to get along.”

Under a Clinton presidency, as under the Obama administration, believers in Christ-denominator churches will continue to be pressured and punished – with an acceleration and intensity not yet experienced. By the end of Hillary’s first four years, Christ-denominators may very well be completely marginalized and “silenced.”

And what about the Christ-numerator churches? Right now, they’re playing Hillary and Obama’s game. In fact, if it wasn’t for these kind of churches, Obama would never have been elected. Christians, whether Protestant or Catholic, make a formidable, even overwhelming, voting bloc. And Christ-numerators are about to hand Clinton the presidency, as they did Obama in 2008 and 2012.

But, the tide will eventually turn against Christ-numerators — it has to. The state will not tolerate dissenters; the Christ-numerator churches will become dissenters by default simply because Christ has at least a fraction of influence. In eight years, when Hillary’s second term grinds to an end, Christ-numerators will either join the already vilified Christ-denominators in retreat, or drop out of the ranks of church membership altogether.

Either way, Hillary and the state win.

By the election of 2024 when the Democrats choose again who will win (perhaps they will want to “make history” a third time with the first transgender* president?), those who live by any remnant of Christian faith will have zero influence.

And those who had Christ in the numerator may finally realize that they only have themselves to blame for the fall of Christianity in America.


*or maybe it’ll be time for an open, uncompromising, and avowed Muslim in the White House after this next president’s 8-year run, where the Islamic flag can be flown over the dome and everything will be out in the open. I’m sure that’s what the Saudi Royal Family would want and may be working toward, which will most definitely signal the “fall” of America without firing a shot. – Editor

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