The Lie of Free Will as the Christ-hating False Gospel it actually is 101

Isaiah 48:1-10  Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the LORD, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.  For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.  I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.  Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;  I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.  Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.  They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.   Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.  For my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.  Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation ( a choose Jesus gospel of any sort ): God doesn’t make people robots! We can choose! We’re rational creatures! Calvinism makes us robots and robs us of our dignity! Whosoever WILL! Whosoever WILL!

Christ through a Calvinist: In what speech do your accusations make sense?

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: What?

Christ through a Calvinist: The speech God broke up at Babel or in Christ as the Word of God?

Advocate of free will based non-creating salvation: What the hell are you talking about? Whosoever WILL! Whosoever WILL!

Christ through a Calvinist: The speech God broke up at Babel can’t create anything. A reliance on non-creation therefore makes sense it it. Christ is the Word of God by which all things were created. He creates us as new creatures by speaking to us.

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: What?! No ,no. We go under the water to get born again. Whosoever WILL! Whosoever WILL!

Christ through a Calvinist: even your master the devil knew that the proof of Jesus Christ being the Son of God was creating speech. The first thing he asks in the temptations is to see proof of creation by act of speech. Don’t you know the difference between God as Word, Jesus Christ and human speech that God broke up at Babel?

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: I have no idea what you are talking about. Whosoever WILL! Whosoever WILL!

Christ through a Calvinist: saying that men must choose to believe what they hear God Say accuses God of being the same speech that God broke up at Babel; the speech that can’t create anything at all. That’s the unforgivable sin.

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: You are not making sense within the paradigm of my argument. You are not sticking to the script!

Christ through a Calvinist: No. I’m not. I’m making sense in Christ who is the Word of God. Thanks for finally answering the first question.

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: Oh! I see! You are a mere rationalist! You want everything to make sense! What we believe is the mystery –not certainty! Whosoever WILL! Whosoever WILL!

Christ through a Calvinist: God as Word creates what He speaks. The Bible is the creating Word of God. Your accusations only make sense in a theory of speech that exactly describes the speech God broke up at Babel. You have to assume the Bible is powerless, non-creating speech in order to think you have power over it and idealize others to have power over it and what they hear. While human speech certainly cannot create anything, and you are well used to it such that creation as act of speech seems like a myth to you, God calls all those in that speech you speak wicked and liars. To wit:

Psalm 12:2-4  They speak falsehood every one with his neighbour: with flattering lip, with a double heart, do they speak.   Jehovah will cut off all flattering lips, the tongue that speaketh proud things,  Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail, our lips are our own: who is lord over us?

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Psalm 58:1-6   Is righteousness indeed silent? Do ye speak it? Do ye judge with equity, ye sons of men?  Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh out the violence of your hands in the earth.  The wicked go astray from the womb; they err as soon as they are born, speaking lies.  Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder which stoppeth her ear;  Which doth not hearken to the voice of enchanters, of one charming ever so wisely.  O God, break their teeth in their mouth; break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Jehovah

So I ask you, Mr. Satan worshiper: why is it that your thoughts of God’s Word are derived from the qualities of human speech that God broke up at Babel? Why is it you think all speech has the qualities of your speech and cannot create anything? Don’t you see you need a will-neutral, non-creating speech that God Himself is a prisoner to in order for what you are saying to make sense? Don’t you see that what you are saying is that the only speech in total reality is the one God broke up at Babel and that God, Satan and men are all prisoners of that speech as their sole means of communication? Don’t you see you are saying Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Word of God that created all that is and ever will be ..can’t create anything and you are then equating Jesus Christ with anti-Christ?

Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: Look here. I’ve been patient. But you are out of your mind. The Bible clearly says Whosoever will.

Christ through a Calvinist: No. I’m in the mind of Christ. But I am certainly out of your mind and do not at all think as you do.

Significant silence ensues..

Finally Advocate of free will based, non-creating salvation: My gospel gets the prettiest girls, the fastest cars, more money and the biggest buildings. I tell ‘em they got the power to save themselves and they all worship me.

Christ through a Calvinist: Both you and they will pass and be forgotten. And God will save some out of your lies. In fact, everyone who has ever been saved has been saved out of the lie in which you live by a different speech than what you have got. By the way, those desires you have and give to others that they never get satisfaction with? You know why they don’t get what you seduce them to want? God creates between the line of sight of first seeing the desire and the object of desire. New time. New things. New thoughts. New everything. They don’t get the catastrophe you said was coming or the salvation you said could be had. By the time you encounter that object or idea again, you and they would have forgotten you wanted it to avoid seeing you can’t do what you say. No matter where you turn, or how hard you try, that new creation keeps getting in the way of your evil thoughts while you are not newly created and have to make up lies as to what happened. But in that speech that God broke up at Babel, you will lie until the day you die in the common sense of non-creation. And you’ll just re-hash the lies of bigger witches than yourself and call their books your proof-texts.

The only reason people are deceived by your philosophical lies about speech you imply but never state are only because they are in the same speech you are: the speech God broke up at Babel. You prophesy by Baal/Belial/non-creating speech/anti-Christ. But I am in the Word of God and have the mind of Christ. You and I are not the same creature.

John 1:1-14  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  *He* was in the beginning with God.  All things received being through him, and without him not one thing received being which has received being.  In him was life, and the life was the light of men.  And the light appears in darkness, and the darkness apprehended it not.  There was a man sent from God, his name John.  He came for witness, that he might witness concerning the light, that all might believe through him.  He was not the light, but that he might witness concerning the light.  The true light was that which, coming into the world, lightens every man.  He was in the world, and the world had its being through him, and the world knew him not.  He came to his own, and his own received him not;  but as many as received him, to them gave he the right to be children of God, to those that believe on his name;  who have been born, not of blood, nor of flesh’s will, nor of man’s will, but of God.   And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we have contemplated his glory, a glory as of an only-begotten with a father), full of grace and truth;

1Corinthians 2:9-16  but according as it is written, Things which eye has not seen, and ear not heard, and which have not come into man’s heart, which God has prepared for them that love him,  but God has revealed to us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.  For who of men hath known the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? thus also the things of God knows no one except the Spirit of God.  But *we* have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that we may know the things which have been freely given to us of God:  which also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, communicating spiritual things by spiritual means .  But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him; and he cannot know them because they are spiritually discerned;  but the spiritual discerns all things, and *he* is discerned of no one. For who has known the mind of the Lord, who shall instruct him? But *we* have the mind of Christ.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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