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WAS PETER THE FIRST POPE? - The Truth of Matthew 16 Revealed

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Oh yes, Peter was made pope and the cow jumped over the moon and he even divorced his wife so he could be celibate for the job as well and, then, the little dog laughed to see such fun and the dish ran away with the spoon! LOL

 

I wonder if ‘Pope Peter’ wore all those fancy robes? Did he wear one of those Philistine, Priest of Dagon, fish hats? I wonder if he sold eternal life and opened a Swiss bank account to keep all the evil profits from his highly dubious and thereby satanic religious activities? I wonder too if he planned the Apostolic Succession – whatever that is? One thing is for sure, there’s no mention of it in The Holy Scriptures.

 

Matthew chapter 16, and all that blasphemous ‘Peter the pope’ nonsense, revealed for what it is – total satanic Roman Catholic Cainite religious humbug and hog-wash.

 

Look at how Matthew 16 opens:

 

Verse 1: The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came (i.e. the first century men of the Cainite-Judeo religion), and tempting, desired Him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. (Brackets mine).

 

Straight away we have the men of The Cainite-Judeo Religion (religious dog intellectuals) and assorted legalists; ‘i’ dotters and ‘t’ crossers or gnat strainers, tempting Yashua Messiah and asking Him for a sign. This means they were asking for few a conjuring tricks or a little mystical magic, for they loved all that sorcery stuff, and still do!

 

Verse 2: Yashua Messiah begins to rebuke them and by verse 4 He has confronted them with their vile satanic worldliness and lack of Spiritual understanding. They can tell what the weather will be like, like any man can, and yet they were ignorant of the times they were living in i.e. the time of Yashua Messiah, the Saviour, as prophesied in The Holy Scriptures which they were supposed to be an authority on. See any parallels with today, folks? I do hope so, for your Spiritual welfare depends upon it!

 

Verse 5: The disciples have forgotten to bring bread

 

Verse 6: Yashua Messiah warns His Learners (disciples) about the leaven (the sinful teaching of legalistic, flesh based commandment keeping blasphemers) of the Pharisees and Sadducees – the men of The Cainite-Judeo Religion. Please note, we need to be aware, too, that this ‘leaven’ or puffed up vain arrogant attitude has never gone away, it is still with us today, taught by the men of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion today (21st century Pharisees) with their non-gospel of salvation by religious observances and/or salvation by works/process. We also need to understand that nothing has changed in nearly 2,000 years. Religion is religion, is religion, whether Judaic, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant or Islamic – it’s all the same and it’s all meaningless, vain, hu-man made nonsense. You need to know, too, that in the eyes of the Father and the Son, it has no value – it’s worthless dross and useless muck because there is no salvation in it.

 

OK, moving on, verse 7: The Learners (disciples) in their slowness to learn or in their thinking as fleshy men, instead of thinking as Spiritual Learners (disciples), believe Yashua Messiah is referring to the bread they have forgotten to bring.

 

Verse 8; Yashua Messiah is very quick to make use of knowing their thoughts and rebukes them for their slowness in learning and behaving just like the Pharisees with their carnal focus and fleshy agenda, i.e. worrying about the trivial physical things of this life. Yashua Messiah now turns this episode into a lesson in faith and FAITH now becomes the subject and thrust of this chapter and nothing else. We must take on board at this crucial point in the narrative that this chapter is not about people or any particular individual; it’s only about Spirituality and Faith.

 

So, moving on, Yashua Messiah asks in verses 9 & 10: Have you forgotten my miracles already, He enquires of them?

 

Verse 11 & 12: Yashua Messiah explains again and they finally understand.

 

As I have already made clear and hope you understand too, that the creatures of The Cainite-Judeo Religion (Pharisees and Sadducees) are still with us in this world today only it is now called the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

 

Nearly all Christian churches and denominations (demon-inations) are led by 21st century Pharisees and if you are a Born of God (Born Again) son or daughter of God you need to separate yourselves from these people as soon as possible, for they will only lead you astray and separate you from your Saviour, Yashua Messiah.

 

Verse 13: The chapter now moves on, geographically, to Caesarea Philippi and the theme of Faith is resumed and emphasised as Yashua Messiah questions His Learners (disciples), asking them:

 

“Whom do people think I, the Son of man, am?”

 

Yashua Messiah is asking them this question to see if anyone out there amongst the lost, apart from the Learners present, has Faith, as it would take great Faith, in a lost and unsaved world, to verbalise and confess that Yashua Messiah is The Messiah.

 

Verse 14: The Learners (disciples) tell Yashua Messiah that some people say He is John the Baptist, some say He is Elijah and others that He is Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

 

Verse 15: Then comes the big question – the biggest and most important question ever asked of a group of men:

 

“But whom say ye that I am?” Yashua Messiah, here, is testing their belief and their Faith, directly.

 

Verse 16: Peter then answers with a Spiritual nuke! Make no mistake; his reply to this question is as significant as the creation of Adam and Eve. We must never underestimate this moment in mankind’s history. This is the first man to have ever received a direct communication from the Father and then to use that information in his response to the Yashua Messiah’s question.

 

Verse 17: And to confirm it, Yashua Messiah tells Peter just how blessed he is to be the recipient of this first Fatherly communication:

 

Matt 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

 

This, dear readers, is the pivotal verse of this chapter, not the verse that follows it. This verse tells us exactly what is going on here and it shows us that Peter has been singled out by The Father to be the man to impart this awesome information. Let’s be clear, too, this information could have been given to any of the other Learners (disciples) there present if The Father had so desired.

 

OK, Yashua Messiah then utters, what many in the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion thinks is, a controversial statement, but it is not controversial at all, it’s just another example of a contaminated translation in English Bibles. Contaminated by the same men of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion I mentioned above who translated the New Testament from the Greek into English in the 16th and 17th centuries.

 

Verse18: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

 

Then again copied transliterally from original Greek MSS:

 

Matthew 16:18 (Greek Transliteral) And I yet (also) to you am saying that you are Peter and on this the rock I shall be building of me the out called (ecclesia) and gates of unperceived not shall be down stronging (shall be prevailing) of her. (Emphasis mine)

 

Now notice the crucial megga word ‘this’ and then ‘the rock’. Have you noticed, too, that Yashua Messiah doesn’t say ‘you?’ Yashua Messiah does not say “now Peter, upon you am I now going to build my church”.

 

So what is this ‘rock’ that Yashua Messiah is talking about here, for it certainly isn’t Peter? Peter = Cephas = pebble or stone, not a rock. So what is the real issue here? Easy, it was Peter’s statement of Faith and belief in Yashua Messiah, given to Peter by The Father, via the Holy Spirit. That is why the word ‘this’ is used here in this context. It is definitely referring to something intangible, not something tangible.

 

Now to support this, notice how the Greek rendition explains how the Church will be built of Yashua Messiah and He says so quite clearly: “I shall be building OF ME the out called or the ecclesia – the church” not of Peter. Yashua Messiah is stating clearly and unambiguously that His Assemblies, the Assemblies of God, will be built upon Him and through Faith in Him and upon no one else. You need to get this basic fact through your heads folks, if you are of those who believe the lies of the Roman Catholic money making Cult.

 

We now move on to yet more corruptions of the Holy Word of God in Matthew 16:

 

Verse 19: And I will give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of God (Heaven) : and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Brackets mine)

 

Now what are these ‘keys’ of the Kingdom of God, which, according to the Roman Catholic Cult, were supposedly given to Peter and to Peter alone?

 

First, we need to realise that the ‘keys’ are symbolic, not literal. They are representative of a Spiritual dimension, but what Spiritual dimension? Quite simply, the ‘keys’ are a representation of the Holy Spirit fed Gospel message, for it’s only through the gift of The Holy Spirit to enable the hearing of that Spiritual Message, through the Hearing of Faith, that a man or woman can be called by The Father to His Son and saved:

 

Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by The Word of God.

 

Gal 3:2 (KJV) This only would I learn of you, Received ye The Spirit by the works of The Law, or by The Hearing of Faith?

 

The other ‘keys’ that follow are repentance, Baptism, the gift of the Holy Spirit and the gift of Grace through belief and continued belief or faith in Yashua Messiah; these are the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven/God. These ‘keys’ are those which Peter and all the other disciples would receive after Yashua Messiah’s death, resurrection and ascension.

 

We must understand this is not a special gift to Peter alone and to believe that it is, is pure mythical fantasy or Roman Catholic Cult gobbledegook. All those who would teach in the future, including all the other Apostles, would have this gift; this ability, with God’s power, to bring people to Yashua Messiah – The Keys of The Kingdom – those people The Father was/is calling to His Son, which brings us to the next part of verse 19 which I will recopy here:

 

Verse 19, second part: And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 

As stated, here is another evil corruption of the Holy Scriptures. The second part of this verse as written in the Greek MSS has the opposite meaning to what is written in the KJV, and I quote:

 

Matthew 16:19 (Greek Transliteral) second part: And which if ever you should be binding on the land (earth), shall be, having been bound in the heavens.

 

So here is a revelation; whatever Peter binds on earth will have already been bound in heaven, first. He, like all of us Born of God (Born Again) sons of God, will be harvesting the unsaved, binding in the Spirit those whom The Father has predestined i.e. called and chosen. Peter is definitely not being given any special authority, or any special position or dispensation. Yashua Messiah is in overall authority at all times.

 

In turn, we can see who would be behind this corruption of the Holy Scriptures. Who would gain by such a snake in the grass contamination of God’s Holy Word? Easy, the Roman Catholic Cult, a counterfeit church, that has only the myth of Peter being the first pope upon which to base its sandy foundation. Make no mistake folks, without this fantastical mythical mickey mouse idea of Peter being a pope, Rome is just a pathetic house-of-cards and the Peter the pope card is right at the bottom of this feeble structure. Pull it out and whole rotten corrupt edifice just collapses.

 

The same corruption applies to the next part of that verse:

 

In the Greek MSS once more: and whatever you loose on the earth shall be, having been loosed in the heavens.

 

These were direct instructions from Yashua Messiah to not just Peter but, all the Learners (disciples). ‘Loosening‘ here means “freeing from The Law”, and this is the lesson Peter had to learn regarding the dietary laws later on. Peter was rebuked by Paul over this mistake.

 

Now if Peter was head of The Assemblies of God, how come he had to take a ticking-off from Paul, who didn’t mince his words? If Peter had been head of The Assemblies of God, there is no way he would have taken such a severe reprimand and admonishment from someone of a lower order. This, again, is more evidence that Peter had no authority over his fellows as pope.

 

Moreover, Roman Catholics, in order to defend their deceptions and nonsense about Peter being the first Pope, will site the fact that Peter is now known a Cephas for the first time. Cephas is Aramaic for Peter and Peter was known as Peter or Cephas right at the beginning:

 

Matt 4:18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter (petros = pebble NOT petra = rock), and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. (Brackets mine)

 

Right at the beginning of his calling when he began to follow Yashua Messiah he was already known as Peter or Cephas the pebble – Simon being his first name. There is, therefore, no significance in Yashua Messiah mentioning his name in Matt 16 other than to emphasise that he was the first man to identify his Master as The Messiah via a direct message from The Father. It is pure make believe to suggest that Peter was specially chosen above his peers, especially when it was John whom Yashua Messiah loved more:

 

John 21:7 (KJV) Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter….

 

Here is another question: If Peter was made pope why is it not mentioned in the Holy Scriptures? Let’s face it, such an event would have involved great celebrations and grand announcements across the Roman world, but what do we get, nothing, not so much as a whimper about it, and why? Why, because it never took place?

 

Here, though, we now enter into a bit of a mystery, for there was someone in Rome who did head up and start the Roman Catholic money making cult, but his name certainly wasn’t Simon Barjona. Interestingly enough, his name was Simon – Simon Magus the sorcerer and I will be revealing him in detail in another article.

 

Finally, if you are, or were, the least bit unsure of whom The Rock is (for there can only be one Rock) read it here:

 

1 Corinthians 10:4: (KJV) And did all drink the same Spiritual drink: for they drank of that Spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

 

And here:

 

Deut 32:3-4 (KJV) Because I will publish the name of The LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. 4 He is The Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment: a God of Truth and without iniquity, just and right is He.

 

And here:

 

Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a Stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

 

Peter was never The Rock, for only Yashua Messiah can be that Rock – no ordinary man is capable of being The Rock and to suggest it, is an evil satanic blasphemous lie.

 

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    • Truthseeker

      What is a key for? to unlock the door. What are the Apostles to do with the Key, let others into the Kingdom of God.

      The Apostles are door keepers, they shut the door for some and open the door for those called by God the Father.

      • yes2truth

        Wrong, The Father determines who enters The Kingdom and who doesn’t – He calls and CHOOSES.

        The disciples at that time were not empowered with The Holy Spirit which came later after Yashua Messiah’s death and resurrection while they were in the upper room.

        Once gifted with The Holy Spirit they could then preach the Gospel message (The Keys to The Kingdom) with power and Spiritual authority, but they had NO AUTHORITY to determine who could or could not enter The Kingdom unless they were blantantly satanic ala Simon Magus, only God can know a man’s heart – no one else.

        Apostles are messengers who planted assemblies on their travels, not door keepers – elders, pastors and bishops (overseers) were the bouncers and door keepers who expelled the trouble makers.

        • Truthseeker

          yes2truth

          The Apostles have the Key to the Door of Salvation to let in all the Father calls to come out of this evil world. Once they have preached the Good News of the coming Kingdom of God should they not also show those CALLED by the Father how they also may enter?

        • yes2truth

          More rubbish from the Spiritually dead Judaising mongrel dog:

          Baptism and the Gift of The Holy Spirit is the key to Kingdom – without His Spirit no one will enter The Kingdom and no matter how many laws he may or may NOT HAVE KEPT.

          Apostles are just messengers who sow Spiritual seed (The Word of God) and if it lands in fertile soil (those called and chosen by The Father) it will take root and grow. If it lands elsewhere it will wither and die i.e. people like yourself.

        • Truthseeker

          yes2truth

          The Apostles were given knowledge of the Key to the Kingdom and the only KEY:

          Here is that Key:

          Repent of transgressing the 10 Commandments, be baptized into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and then by the laying on of hands receive the gift of the Holy Spirit of the Father.

          I do not obey my Father and His Son to be saved, salvation is a free gift, keeping the Law can save not one, EVER!

          I obey My Father by following Christ as HE follows His Father.

          I am a bond servant to Christ as He bought and paid for me by His payment for my sins. He purchased me out from slavery to sin. Thus I must do what He tells me and He says to keep the 10 Commandments and His Sabbaths.

          It is my duty to obey my Master, He owns me, a duty for which there is no reward.

          It is your hatred for things you can not understand that keeps you from the TRUTH.

          Can you at least understand this one fact: there was never a promise of salvation or forgiveness offered at any time for keeping the Law.

          The Law is THE LIST of what God has determined is Sin. God the Father is the one who condemns those that transgress that Law, the Law only ONLY shines a light on the sinner.

        • yes2truth

          I have news for you – knowledge doesn’t save YOU OR ANY MAN – period.

          What saves a man is The Father’s calling AND CHOOSING and that man being Baptised AND RECEIVING THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH YOU HAVEN’T GOT.

          Now go away and stop wasting my time with your ignorant Judaising mongrel dog error.

        • yes2truth

          Further to:

          You said:

          “I obey My Father by following Christ as HE follows His Father.”

          This statement completely contradicts EVERYTHING you said prior to it.

          If you’re OBEYING then there must be a LAW that you’re OBEYING and you are NOT under Grace – following because YOU WANT TO.

          I don’t follow Yashua Messiah because He TELLS me to follow Him. I follow because it is MY desire to follow Him – I NEED NO LAW OR ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO FOLLOW HIM – BUT YOU DO.

          You are like the horse with bit and bridle – :

        • Truthseeker

          yes2truth

          why is it you ALWAYS leave out the the instructions to REPENT,, it is because repent means TO QUIT transgressing the Commandments of God.

          How can you quit breaking the Law if it done away?

          You are not one bit different then the other 4000 flavors of so call christianity, you pick the scriptures you agree with and cast out the rest.

          Do not bother to respond I am done with you.

        • yes2truth

          Lies-seeker is back for more instruction. :lol: :lol: :lol:

          You said:

          “Why is it you ALWAYS leave out the the instructions to REPENT,, it is because repent means TO QUIT transgressing the Commandments of God.”

          I sometimes do use the command to repent, but when dealing with Spiritually dead people one stops bothering after a while because the command falls on dead and deaf ears.

          FYI Repent means to change i.e. to change from your evil satanic ways of Judaising, blaspheming and trampling upon Yashua Messiah’s sacrifice every day of your evil life and start living under His Grace.

          The Law is not done away for the lost and unsaved. The Law is there to bring lost people to Yashua Messiah, but once Baptised and indwelled with The Holy Spirit we become Born of God – new men and women over whom The Law no longer has authority. Plus there is no need for The Law once under His Grace.

          However, there are certain people who are worse than the lost and unsaved – more evil, wicked and more sinful who get baptised, receive The Holy Spirit and then blaspheme against The Holy Spirit by reinvoking The Law and making it binding upon themselves like dogs returning to their own vomit!!

          You said:

          “You are not one bit different then the other 4000 flavors of so call christianity, you pick the scriptures you agree with and cast out the rest.”

          Yet another of your ignorant remarks and a lie for I am very different from all those you mention – I am one of the few – it is you that is one of the many on the wide path to destruction (Spiritual ruin). Did you not know that Judaising mongrel dogs are a dime a dozen?

          I agree with all The Holy Scriptures, but then I understand them and you don’t, being Spiritually dead.

      • Mirabolin

        @Truthseeker

        You won’t get any sense out of him but maybe it’s the mosaic law and abrahamic law that christianity neither removes one jot and tittle of or, at the same time, even applies to, the mosaic law and abrahamic covenant.

        Early Christians beliefs would have been similar to the tradition they came from

        “The traditional Rabbinical Jewish belief is that the observance of these (ten) commandments and the other mitzvot are required solely of the Jewish people, and that the laws incumbent on humanity in general are outlined in the seven Noahide laws (several of which overlap with the Ten Commandments).”

        The prohibition of idolatry.
        The prohibition of murder.
        The prohibition of theft.
        The prohibition of sexual immorality.
        The prohibition of blasphemy.
        The prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive.
        The requirement of maintaining courts to provide legal recourse.

        • yes2truth

          Early Christian beliefs would be beliefs that you know nothing about. All YOU know about is the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion as founded by the Canaanite Jew Philo and Simon Magus. Not forgetting your satanic ‘church fathers’ who were also babbling know-nothing philosophers.

        • Truthseeker

          Mirabolin,

          I understand your points and also that breaking through to some folks is similar to breaking in to Fort Knox. Our Father and Jesus Christ will sort them out at a later time.

          My understanding comes in the majority from God’s Word and I do not look to rabbinical Jewish beliefs or traditional christian doctrine or traditions of any kind. I look to the Word to interpret the Word. When I comment or post an article it comes from my study of God’s Word and from prayer.

          The doctrinal truths that I hold and practice place me in the one percent or less of those called Christians. I am contrary to just about everyone on BIN and expect that divide to increase.

          I don’t expect to open anyone’s eyes, God is sending strong delusions, it will get worse.

        • yes2truth

          You said:

          “I understand your points and also that breaking through to some folks is similar to breaking in to Fort Knox. Our Father and Jesus Christ will sort them out at a later time.”

          Unfortunately you have nothing that is capable of breaking into ‘Fort Knox’. All you have is Judaism and religion, which is wholly satanic and phony.

          You said:

          “My understanding comes in the majority from God’s Word.”

          And The Holy Scriptures say:

          Proverbs 3:5 (KJV) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

          When you have learnt to enter into His Sabbath Rest and trust in Him totally and completely with all your HEART for your salvation you will no longer rely upon your own understanding. It’s YOUR understanding that’s YOUR problem.

          You said:

          “The doctrinal truths that I hold and practice place me in the one percent or less of those called Christians.”

          You kid yourself. Judaisers like you are dime a dozen – The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion has thousands like you, especially in their cults.

          You said:

          “I don’t expect to open anyone’s eyes.” :eek:

          Well that’s the best news I have heard today. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • Mirabolin

      Religion is religion, is religion – it’s all the same and it’s all meaningless, vain, hu-man made nonsense. You need to know, too, that in the eyes of the Father and the Son, it has no value.

      ————————

      I’m very spiritual … I’m just not religious.
      I’m very humane … I just won’t have anything to do with humans.

      Have whatever faith you want but Jesus never gave you any exemption from the pontifex maximus. Or the people of the Abrahamic covenant and mosaic law (himself included) any exemption from these.

      Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s.

      ————————————

      Religion is religion, is religion – it’s all the same and it’s all meaningless, vain, hu-man made nonsense. You need to know, too, that in the eyes of the Father and the Son, it has no value.

      • yes2truth

        Oh I know that you’re very spiritual but with a small ‘s’ as in demonic spiritual.

        Humane is from hu-man so you must empathise with your own serpent kind, so you must hate mankind, by default, and of course Rome does hate mankind hence it is mostly filled with hu-mankind – serpent men.

        You said:

        “Have whatever faith you want but Jesus never gave you any exemption from the pontifex maximus.”

        There is only one faith, faith in Yashua Messiah and Him alone, not faith in a serpent creature that professes to be a representative called ‘pontifex maximus’ whose origins are clearly found in ancient pagan Rome circa 700 BC.

        Perhaps you were not aware of its heathen origins, proving that when ancient Rome fell nothing changed and when unhloy Rome took over – it was business as usual whereby mercenaries had to used from then on as you no longer had your own military legions.

        You might also be interested to know that there is no mention of ‘pontifex maximus’ in The Holy Scriptures. Surprise surprise – bowl me over with a feather. :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • Mirabolin

          Roughly:

          Orthodoxy – correct belief

          Orthopraxy – correct practice

          Orthodoxy is belief. Orthopraxy is religion.

          “You might also be interested to know that there is no mention of ‘pontifex maximus’ in The Holy Scriptures. Surprise surprise – bowl me over with a feather.”

          Actually there was: Render unto Caesar (chief priest – not Ciaphas) that which is Caesars (wordly things) and unto God that which is God’s (spiritual things)

        • yes2truth

          Render WHAT unto Caesar? The monetary value of the coin? The metal value of the coin or the worthless image on the face of the coin? I’ll leave you to work that out. :???:

          Orthodoxy is belief in a religion – Eastern Orthodoxy or Greek Orthodoxy and they all dress up in fancy dress – period

          Make my day and name me another orthodoxy. :lol:

        • Mirabolin

          As I know that you believe in reading the Scriptures correctly I know that you will agree to this reading of the statement “Render unto Caesar…”

          Orthodoxy is any ‘correct’ belief. Including yours.

        • yes2truth

          I don’t believe in the Holy Scriptures correctly, I believe in them faithfully. Learn the difference.

          Neither of the words ‘orthodox’ or ‘orthodoxy’ can be found in The Holy Scriptures so they are both vain meaningless religious words belonging primarily to the Eastern Orthodox Church or the Eastern half of The Mother of Harlots.

          Following Yashua Messiah is NOT a religion, nor did He come to this earth to start a religion.

          From Wiki

          “Orthodoxy (from Greek orthos (“right”, “true”, “straight”) + doxa (“opinion” or “belief”, related to dokein, “to think”),[1]) is adherence to accepted norms, more specifically to creeds, especially in religion.[2] In the Christian sense the term means “conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of the early Church”"

          “Adherence to accepted norms” as laid down by the creatures of a pagan religion trying pathetically to pass itself of as being of Yashua Messiah when it’s all of The Devil.

          From Dictionary.com

          1. of, pertaining to, or conforming to the approved form of any doctrine, philosophy, ideology, etc.

          As made by the creatures of The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion and Philo’s disciples.

          2. of, pertaining to, or conforming to beliefs, attitudes, or modes of conduct that are generally approved.

          As made by the creatures of The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion and approved by them but not by Yashua Messiah. Hence He will say to you and those like you in the resurrection: “Go away from me for I never knew you.”

          3. customary or conventional, as a means or method; established.

          The traditions of hu-man beings made by the creatures of The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

          4. sound or correct in opinion or doctrine, especially theological or religious doctrine.

          Worthless opinions and doctrines of know-nothing Bible intellectuals and theologians – vain babblings of the Spiritually dead intellect.

          5. conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of the early church.

          There are no creeds in following Yashua Messiah – the early Assemblies of God had no creeds. Creeds, like orthodox and orthodoxy, are non-Biblical words – again the construct of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion – all is vanity, all is meaningless.

          Render unto Caesar what is Caesars – his image on the coin = nothing. :grin:

        • Mirabolin

          “There are no creeds in following Yashua Messiah – the early Assemblies of God had no creeds.”

          Because, and you accept it, the Scriptures that you believe in ‘faithfully’ are the scriptures compiled by and authorized by the ROMAN Catholic church.

          Orthopraxy is a term derived from modern Greek ὀρθοπραξία (orthopraxia) meaning “correct action/activity” or an emphasis on conduct, both ethical and liturgical, as opposed to faith or grace etc.[1][2][3] This contrasts with orthodoxy, which emphasizes correct belief, and ritualism, the use of rituals.

          “again the construct of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion – all is vanity, all is meaningless. ”

          If conforming ONLY to the Judaism of Jesus and not to the ROMAN church then everything that is not Jewish must be, by definition, ONLY an outlaw outside all law (as Jewish law is the ONLY law) and existence meaningless. THAT is the religion that you are following. This is just your status within it’s orthodox beliefs – damned.

          ““Adherence to accepted norms” as laid down by the creatures of a pagan religion trying pathetically to pass itself of as being of Yashua Messiah when it’s all of The Devil. ”

          I am not of ‘Yeshooby Massah’. Or even of Jesus. I am of my family.

        • yes2truth

          You don’t give up with your crap and BS, do you?

          What are you trying to prove, when I prove you wrong at every turn, are you some kind of masochist?

          “Because, and you accept it, the Scriptures that you believe in ‘faithfully’ are the scriptures compiled by and authorized by the ROMAN Catholic church.”

          Rubbish. The Septuagint Old Testament was written before Yashua Messiah was born and the Aramaic and Greek Holy Scriptures were written before Rome Catholicism was even thought of in 325 AD. All you blasphemers can lay claim to is the satanic Vulgate translation put together by Jerome 390 AD.

          You said:

          “If conforming ONLY to the Judaism of Jesus.”

          Yashua Messiah was a Judahite and lived under The Law which was then nailed to the cross. I follow His Grace Teaching, not His Law bound example and I don’t need you counterfeiting sons of Philo in order to do that. I also wouldn’t sell salvation or try to buy The Holy Spirit like your founding father Simon Magus – the real Simon of Rome.

          You said:

          “I am not of ‘Yeshooby Massah’. Or even of Jesus. I am of my family.”

          I won’t thank you for confirming that you are still dead in your sins, but then I knew that already.

    • Hawbs

      yes2truth says “I follow His Grace Teaching, not His Law bound example.” just trying to understand you, yes2truth. why would you need a Messiah to forgive your sins if sin, meanings Yah’s Laws, is done away with? 1 John 3:4 sin is not doing Yah’s Laws. you say the Law was nailed to the cross. is there no judgement day then? we don’t have to walk as Messiah walked? we just make up our own form of worship to Our Creator? why did Yahusha say “depart from me, you who practice lawlessness? in the book of James, he says to be doers of the Word. with grace, you would not need to do anything, would you?
      Aramaic Bible in Plain English: Roman 3:31……
      “Are we eliminating The Written Law by faith? God forbid, but we are establishing The Written Law.”
      yes, we are saved by Yahusha mediating for us so we can come to The Father, Yahuah, cause He does not like our sinful, fleshly, worldly, self serving ways. may you find the peace of the Creator and His love for us.

      • yes2truth

        Your comment displays your COMPLETE ignorance of The Spiritual dimension and everything that Yashua Messiah came to achieve and DID achieve but, YOU, in your satanic blasphemous ignoranrce, throw everything He did for you back in His face – that is how vile and evil you are.

        You said:

        “yes2truth says “I follow His Grace Teaching, not His Law bound example.” just trying to understand you, yes2truth. why would you need a Messiah to forgive your sins if sin, meanings Yah’s Laws, is done away with?”

        Let’s be clear, for here you are telling a blatant lie, being the demonic son of The Devil, Pharisee Judaiser that you are, because you’re not the least bit interested in trying to understand, so like your father, The Devil, you’re a liar.

        ALL my sins were forgiven, past, present and future at Baptism – period. I am therefore no longer under The Law, but under His Grace and free from sin – perfect. His Grace did not come in until after His death and resurrection. Yashua Messiah was under The Law, NOT under Grace.

        Yes, there is a judgment day, but only for people like YOU!!!!!!!

        Read and understand this:

        John 12:47 (KJV) And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

        Then this, which applies to YOU:

        John 12:48 (KJV) He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth
        him: The Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

        You said:

        “Aramaic Bible in Plain English: Roman 3:31……
        “Are we eliminating The Written Law by faith? God forbid, but we are establishing The Written Law.””

        Yes in plain English YOU don’t even understand!! WE ARE ESTABLISHING THE LAW BY OUR FAITH, SO FAITH IN YASHUA MESSIAH HAS REPLACED THE LAW. FAITH IN YASHUA MESSIAH IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED. I’m shouting here hoping that The Truth will penetrate your thick satanic head.

        Yashua Messiah only mediates for us in the beginning, before we are Born of The Spirit – no need for mediation thereafter – God made, Holy Spirit, perfection needs no mediation.

        Let me know when you’re ready to repent and I will teach you, but I won’t be holding my breath in the meantime. :eek:

      • Truthseeker

        anonymous,

        There are many that absolutely hate the Perfect and Righteous and HOLY Law of God. The Law that says do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not lie, do not make graven images is just so harsh, don’t you understand that logic?

        The Law that never imparts righteousness or forgiveness or salvation but only list what sin IS, is to be avoided at all cost so Christ had to nail it to His stake.

        Christ is the very ONE that gave the Law to Moses in the wilderness and now He is CHANGING and taking it away? Doesn’t that make sense?

        And all that hate the Law never quote the words of our Savior in Matthew 5: 17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the prophets; I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.”

        The word fulfill also means to complete, Christ completed the Law by making it Spiritual as well as physical.

        Don’t waste your time trying to use scripture or logic it can not penetrate their brains.

        • yes2truth

          And now another Judaising mongrel dog turns up to spew forth his satanic vile blasphemies.

          You said:

          “There are many that absolutely hate the Perfect and Righteous and HOLY Law of God.”

          I love The Law of God, because it no longer condemns me, unlike you – you are as dead in your sins as if you had never picked up a Bible and read it – accursed.

          You said:

          “The Law that says do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not lie, do not make graven images is just so harsh, don’t you understand that logic?”

          The Law also says get circumcised, eat unclean foods, don’t wear mixed cloths and make aninmal sacrifices – I hope you are doing all those things, too, or you fail in keeping The Law

          James 2:10 (KJV) For whosoever shall keep The Whole Law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

          You said:

          “The Law that never imparts righteousness or forgiveness or salvation but only list what sin IS, is to be avoided at all cost so Christ had to nail it to His stake.”

          You are one evil twister and perverter of The Holy Scriptures – a snake in the grass:

          Col 2:14 (KJV) Blotting out The Handwriting of Ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross.

          Notice how the stupid illegitimate condemns himself out of his own writings?

          The LAW NEVER IMPARTS RIGHTEOUSNESS OR FORGIVENESS OR SALVATION so what use is The Law for those who rely solely on Faith in Yashua Messiah for their righteousness, forgiveness and salvation? It has no use – it’s useless to a Born of God believer.

          You said:

          “Christ is the very ONE that gave the Law to Moses in the wilderness and now He is CHANGING and taking it away? Doesn’t that make sense?”

          It makes sense to a man or woman who are led by The Holy Spirit and are saved by Yashua Messiah’s Glorious Grace, but it won’t make any sense to a Judaising mongrel dog, like you, who thinks he can be saved by Moses and The Law or who thinks NOTHING was changed by the death and resurrection of Yashua Messiah. Hence you trample over His sacrifice every day of your miserable evil life.

          You said:

          “And all that hate the Law never quote the words of our Savior in Matthew 5: 17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the prophets; I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.””

          Born of God believers DO NOT hate The Law. Yashua Messiah fulfilled The Law and The Prophets on the cross – IT IS FINISHED. But not for blaspheming Judaising mongrel dogs who try and save themselves by obedience to The Law and their pathetic efforts of the flesh. :eek: :shock: :eek: :shock:

          You said:

          “The word fulfill also means to complete, Christ completed the Law by making it Spiritual as well as physical.”

          More satanic twisting and perverting of The Holy scriptures. He made it complete by making it Spiritual – period.

          Then finally the spiritually dead blaggard and son of the Devil says this:

          “Don’t waste your time trying to use scripture or logic it can not penetrate their brains.”

          Tell me, how does a spiritually dead Judaising mongrel dog read and understand The Holy Scriptures when then they are Spiritual writings and can only be understood by those indwelled by The Holy Spirit, which you are not?

          I will therefore leave you with your putrid logic and your addled brains because a fat lot of use they will be to you. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          Any more spiritually dead comedians out there? I think I’ll start a circus ‘cos there’s no shortage of clowns. :grin:

        • Hawbs

          i know it is a waste of time using scripture and logic. i prefer love and kindness, truthseeker. hope you have a good day.

        • yes2truth

          Oh yes ‘love and kindness’ as you spread your Judaising mongrel dog lies and blasphemies. Satanic error is satanic error no matter how nicely you spew it and vomit it around.

          Your outer darkness rewards await you when Yashua Messiah returns unless you repent and quick.

          There will be weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth as you meditate on your worthless and wasted ‘love and kindness’.

    • Hawbs

      you misunderstand me, yes2truth. i believe we are saved by the Messiah’s grace and that is the only way. i posted: yes, we are saved by Yahusha mediating for us. Yah knows no one could ever keep all His Laws. i just do the best i can cause i love Him. “If you love me, you will obey my commandments.” john 14:15. “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Elohim and possessing the witness of יהושע Messiah.” rev. 12:17. i know you do not agree with me. that is okay. i would not push my beliefs on anyone. Our Creator gives His light to different people in different ways. it’s all up to Him. i am responsible for my own salvation and no one else. i know you are doing what you think is right from The Father. may i suggest that you might get more converts to your beliefs if you were a bit kinder. that is up to you also. Ephesians 4 “Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them. by the way, i am not jewish. i am grafted in Israel. that would be explained in Romans and Galatians 3:29. i do what Yahuah told Israel to do. i agree with truthseeker usually. may we all find the peace and love of Yahuah.

      • yes2truth

        You said:

        “Yah knows no one could ever keep all His Laws. i just do the best i can cause i love Him.”

        Total mealy mouthed BS – your best ain’t good enough sonny boy and the sooner you get that Truth through your thick head the better it will be for you.

        It is because we ARE TOTALLY INCAPABLE OF KEEPING HIS LAWS THAT HE PROVIDED HIS GRACE THROUGH HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION WHICH YOU BLASPHEME AGAINST AND TRAMPLE UPON EVERY DAY OF YOUR WRETCHED EVIL LIFE.

    • Louis

      Allowing yes2truth to publish an insane rubbish article and then argue with and demean commenters amounts to enabling and sponsoring the rantings of a possessed lunatic.

      • yes2truth

        Now which gutless, spineless, anonymous coward are you?

        An “insane rubbish article” eh? Well how about you writing something here, apart from a useless crap opinion, that proves my article wrong.

        I demean no one. They demean themselves with their own satanic diatribes and they certainly need no assistance from me. :shock:

        And finally:

        John 10:20 (KJV) And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye Him?

        If you plan on responding please type with your fingers and not your forehead, thank you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • yes2truth

          Actually it was the 4th Century AD in 325 under Constantine who then butchered his way wherever he went all those who refused to convert to his kind, loving and benevolent religion.

    • Pix

      “WAS PETER THE FIRST POPE?”

      Not unless he could time travel. Catholicism and the bible was created and compiled throughout the 6th to 10th centuries CE. 1,400 years ago and 600 years after the fact. And it’s based on the letters attributed to the Turking trader, Pharisee Saul/Paul, not on anything Peter said.

      :lol:

      • Pix

        *Turkish… must be having a fat finger day thats my 2nd typing fluff up today.

        • yes2truth

          The above comment should have appeared here – BIN at its best. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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